Jim Cornette on Fans Disagreeing With His Thoughts On Uncle Howdy & Wyatt Sicks

From Episode 349 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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[@Beans981]

I’d rather Jim still think the Wyatt stuff sucks, than for him to fake liking it because Bray is gone. That’d feel like bullshit.

[@laileleneirose7966]

Agreed.

[@JACQUEZJOHNSON23]

Facts

[@MitchellQuondam]

Agreed. I think you can love & respect Bray Wyatt and praise his creativity, but still think that 90% of the Wyatt Family stuff is the drizzling shits. Like when Ultimate Warrior died, we didn't suddenly pretend that he was this great worker with fantastic promos and matches.

[@FishJesus420]

But also, if the undertaker gimmick started now instead of 30 years ago, they’d hate it. Just say it’s not for you and move on instead of knocking it. He acts like it’s as bad as orange cassidy.

[@kaczok1985]

I believe he would appreciate the original incarnation of the Wyatts - the hillbilly cult. Bray Wyatt got completely ruined by that Firefly Funhouse nonsense.

[@AlSween]

Corny never liked the Wyatt stuff. To change now would be fake.

[@yusufgazi7]

He actually loved Bray Wyatt’s return promos and saw potential in him

[@celtic69]

pretty much everyone hated the wyatt stuff by the end, but then because he died people like to rewrite history

[@Mr.Mcloving]

@@celtic69seriously!!!!

[@zigga967]

im the same way. especially the fiend version. not a fan of this angle and never was.

[@staticJ7]

​@@yusufgazi7 yeah, he loved Bray being Bray/Windham, not the spooky Fiend stuff.

[@uriel30]

Didn't Brian say this will "help" AEW? Wow, this will age well.

[@ThatGovrnmntBoy]

Brian ''I didn't watch, I was getting stoned. But it sucked.'' Last? Shocking!

[@marvinleong5902]

1.7 plus million vs 502K, welp it help AEW eh Brian?

[@ahmalo]

Brian really adds nothing to this, it’s all Jim.

[@six6thdisciple]

JIM DOESNT LIKE IT

[@jamesedmonds7519]

​@@ahmaloBrian's great. If you think it's all Jim then you don't understand their dynamic at all.

[@Aids2216]

“I would like to take this moment to apologize, to ABSOLUTELY NOBODY”

[@nooneinparticular5273]

I never expected Jim to like the Uncle Howdy stuff and I never needed him to. I agree with a lot of Jim's takes on wrestling, but not all of them. It's not literally a Cult of Cornette, folks. We don't all need to 100% agree with our great leader all the time. I like that they're playing this seriously. They're not having blood shoot out of a pressure washer in the ceiling or teleporting, so far. So far, the faction are a bunch of crazy psychopaths who are going after Chad Gable. So far Bo is a nutjob who snapped when his brother died, cut a very good promo explaining why he went nuts and shot a video explaining why he became Uncle Howdy. I can buy that he's crazy enough to do that. If they break from that, start doing hokey magic stunts, or winking at the crowd, then I'm out. But so far, they've interested me.

[@RoboTities]

Was too Staged, we are supposed to believe that this gang of weirdos randomly attacked the WWE locker room and production team, but the production team was obviously in on it.

[@nicholashamm4838]

Great response from a rational wrestling fan 👍

[@lbo87]

Jim's listener's are now just Reddit's Scjerk and squaredcircle coming for the reactions, the actual podcast doesn't draw.

[@gollumandeowyn]

"If" they break from that? Gable had a bullet hole in his head on day one and now he's suddenly fine!

[@DWOLF777]

@@gollumandeowynit wasn’t a bullet hole.

[@MadMaks27]

After The Undertaker I'm not for a lot of the mystical spooky crap either. However, that being said I like it if it's used for scare tactics. I don't want to see spells and lightning. Only for intimidation and mind games.

[@mac888spectral7]

I thought the Brood walked that line pretty good, unless there was bizarre stuff that I've just forgotten after 25 years.

[@dddking9284]

That is what I love you see as well but I don't mind characters that have a sense of occult as long as it's done in a manner that can make sense otherwise we just get cartoonish stupidity. Like Bray and Seth's Hell in a Cell match which put me off the match type in the first place

[@goofygoob420]

Just give it a chance and if it's bad then you can say you were always right

[@flyguy7825]

Oh wait you can’t ignore that. There were fans out there that love this shit but now they literally changed up because they were the same people who said the Bray Wyatt shit was stupid.

[@goofygoob420]

@@flyguy7825 I'm gonna sound like such a mark but just enjoy wrestling man

[@user-id6ul9ef3q]

Brian has conviently left out why he thinks that this is some big win for Tony Khan and AEW.

[@ZoeW101]

Exactly!

[@Danksforbreakfast]

?

[@KoolKeithProductions]

Yeah, that's my issue with it. Saying you don't like it is fine, but saying this is a fail, and it's gonna drive ppl to AEW? Did they not look at the view count of the debut video? lol This is the same company who had Undertaker buried alive and burned to a crisp multiple times, only to have him return without a scratch on him, and they believe 5 ppl wearing spooky masks are gonna drive wwe fans away?

[@ArsyaUtomo]

Without scratch? Didn't he got 2nd degree burn from one of those? ​@@KoolKeithProductions

[@UnderScoredd]

It's probably because of the fact that even if it IS an L take, it's so easily the least interesting thing that either of them have mentioned about this specific topic because LITERALLY everything is else spot on 😂. If anything, I'd already forgotten about him saying that and now listening back to it , it comes off very tongue in cheek. It seems like the only reason someone would be hanging on to such an nothing line is because they're still grasping at straws to somehow try to defend this whole mess of an embarrassing faction. It's interesting to observe these reactions.

[@Madashell1200]

I wonder why people can't realize multiple things can be true at once? Someone can not be a fan of Wyatt's gimmick and at the same time miss him and be sad for his loss.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

Holding two contrary ideas is actually a sign of intelligence, and I hate to be the one to tell you this, but many people aren't intelligent Idk the exact percentage that they number, but my rule of thumb is 40% of people are basically stupid

[@jaybee4288]

The problem is the delusion. Because of all the tributes and everything people genuinely remember him as being good. He was straight trash, and it’s fine to say that.

[@Davidthom80]

There’s being sad for his loss but let’s not pretend all he did was magical

[@JohnWicksmagazine]

Some people are idiots. I hated the lakers but I cried when Kobe died. Just because I don’t like a sports franchise doesn’t mean I should hate the people who were employed by them.

[@MazeBlurs90]

when supernatural stuff happens in wrestling it makes it goofy some may like it but not everybody will like it especially when they start wrestling and the wrestling is not very good.

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

Man, Kevin Sullivan’s gimmick was so over that people actually believed he had something to do with what happened to the Benoit family. By the way, the restaurant in question was Whataburger.

[@unknownunknown1041]

People believed it because he most likely had something to do with it. His gimmick was definitely beyond kayfabe tho . He is a satanist

[@kombatcamera]

you dont take a man's condo

[@TomC-mj5re]

He did.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

He did

[@bswelli1363]

People think he had something to do with the benoit murders because he was a slime ball with previous history with not only Chris but Nancy as well. The gimmick had absolutely nothing to do with it.

[@mikemitchell5867]

The original Wyatt family was very Florida Sullivan cult like. It was cool. A creepy group can be believable if done correctly.

[@peteranderson5434]

Loved the OG Wyatt family, but this crap ain't that.

[@brettt141]

it cant be done cause its 2024. No where for it to go. I know you loved Bray, but that doesnt make the Wyatt Sicks good

[@exiaR2x78]

Thats the gimmick I liked this creepy cult leader from the swamp with big unkept redneck/hillbilly looking guys hes probably brainwashed as his muscle. The talking in riddles that didnt go anywhere was okay with it cause it came across as manipulating. But they went to far with that gimmick even and it jumped the shark I from memory it was when they had Bray cross dressing as sister Abigail or whatever

[@peteranderson5434]

@@brettt141 nothing will make them good. That's the point. It's just more Fiend nonsense.

[@zlinedavid]

Note the wording: “Creepy”, not “supernatural”. Bray was originally just a creepy, weird cult leader from the swamps. That’s believable.

[@mikevsuarez]

No, Undertaker just had a double and delivered pizza to Leslie Nielsen.

[@MrJjburgess11]

😂😂 Piiiizzaaaaa

[@namelessjedi2242]

Bray had some imaginative creepy ideas. But I think they should have been used in movies, not wrestling.

[@flyguy7825]

OK, tell it to the hypocrites that now loving this shit

[@JohnSmith-wh2ob]

@@flyguy7825it’s a weird thing where you can’t criticize those who pass away when it’s not that case kobe Bryant passing didn’t mean he’s now number 1 all time he had flaws during his career but you can still respect greatness and miss him and mourn his loss same applies to all

[@invisible.fatman]

They're not good enough for movies.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

​@@JohnSmith-wh2obKobe was considered one of the best even before he died. He was a flawed person like everyone else and had some allegations that would make McMahon blush, but he was a good basketball player.

[@flyguy7825]

@@JohnSmith-wh2ob bro, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I’m saying what I’m saying is y’all praise this but chat all over what the fiend did?! they’re doing literally nothing different than what that character did!!

[@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150]

"I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's..." - Sherri or Terri from The Simpsons

[@shanecampbell7423]

"Just toss it over the fence, let Arby's deal with it" - Kirk Van Houten

[@AlMoSiCe210]

"Oh man... she's really hungry..."

[@MrSircharles05]

This is off topic, but how did Arby's get such a bad rep? Their curly fries and jamoka shakes are great!

[@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150]

@@AlMoSiCe210 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@whisperienced]

​@@MrSircharles05 don't get it either. Arby's is great.

[@dennisking7848]

Jim has never been into this kind of stuff. I was never into what Bray was doing... not knocking it just wasn't for me.

[@vinceraven1501]

Yeah, the creepy swamp dwelling Wyatt Family was a great idea, but, it went south really quickly when Bray started the hokey supernatural stuff..

[@Bama20512]

I hated the Fiend character. I was more into the swamp leader

[@mychaeljones7526]

I can see that. It's like certain horror films or action films don't appeal to everyone.

[@dennisking7848]

@@vinceraven1501 I agree.. Bray was a talented guy. Brilliant mind.. but all that stuff isn't meant to be in Wrestling

[@xavierrhcp13]

Well I'll knock it. It's straight trash 😂

[@markfroman738]

It’s almost like Jim can have his own opinion or something.

[@DatKakashii]

It was corny when Bray did it and it’s corny now. Just cause someone passes away means they get a pass and everything is the opposite now.

[@BensonInABox]

I can understand why Jim wouldn’t like it. At the same time I can suspend my disbelief a bit and give it a chance. Could be bad, could be good.

[@ojamabanana]

Narrator: It was shit

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Suspending disbelief kind of ended after taker retired.

[@karambola_designs2361]

It's really really Good!

[@blurplebear8573]

You don't suspend your disbelief for this, you throw it in a bonfire never to be seen again.

[@cloudali892]

To be brutality honest, i grew up as a big fan of the Undertaker. And even as i kid, i had moments of going wth to stuff like crucifing or burning his opponents. After i grew up, it became unwatchable crap that makes no sense and never works even if i had to suspend believe for the sake of enjoyment. But i guess, to each his own.

[@TaeDoloSolo]

It’s like they don’t know who Jim Cornette is 😂😂

[@FishJesus420]

They know exactly who he is. They know he loves the undertaker, created leviathan, and helped Kane get his mannerisms down. He’s a hypocrite

[@williedixon1990]

@@FishJesus420right if he ain’t help create it he shit on it

[@kaczok1985]

@@FishJesus420 ... and he married Leviathan's manager, who led an entire cult-like stable

[@GuyoftheStars]

​@@FishJesus420 listen to the clip first before you comment because you come across as an idiot

[@FishJesus420]

@@williedixon1990imagine if the undertaker first appeared in 2024😂 Jim would hate it

[@sh77511]

I was hyped untill last week but after this week i felt like these Wyatt related stuff just gets dragged on way too much without any actual reward

[@emartinez557]

Wyatt Sicks is on the same level as the wrestling dog, i'm sure tons of ppl want to see that as well

[@BerylliumGold]

Maybe if one looks at it as Bo working through his grief live on air, it's easier to understand

[@newfiejesus]

maybe if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike.

[@goofygoob420]

Wyatt 6 for how silly others claim it is, I think can be used to tell really emotional stories if used right

[@joegreene7619]

He's an idiot in two different costumes talking to himself. It's absolute garbage.

[@danday9697]

That is fine. I am fine with that. I just dont want to see the goofy garbage of security being deleted while nikki is the only one there

[@invisible.fatman]

That makes it make less sense. Why would anyone be allowed to do that on a billion dollar program? Don't be obtuse.

[@MrTorgueHighFiveFlexington]

The video packages are really nicely done and if it was a horror movie or something I’d watch it but I just don’t see how it translates into a match against Chad Gable

[@greasy2007]

That's the question I have

[@therealCamoron]

A lot of fans bought into Kevin Sullivan's gimmick so much they still think he framed Benoit.

[@radical6905]

I think the audience is more willing to suspend disbelief for a bit of fun now than the crowds Cornette was used to booking for/the crowds he was a part of

[@AnneHathawayRules]

I think wrestling fans are in it for the fun and the drama over the old school territorial stuff Jim is pining for. He's starting to sound like Brett Hart with the "wrestling should be serious business" attitude.

[@johnjones8888]

Fun aka "dumb shit"

[@thenightking6662]

Right? It's wrestling bruh it's fake. So we can suspend our belief that two dudes in tighty whiteys who throw terrible punches and moves that would never happen in a real fight but can't have supernatural characters? 😂😂😂 wrestling fans are the worst

[@AGH69]

Cornette's crowds were toothless backwater folk with IQs so low they'd stab wrestlers and vote for Trump

[@carlhannah1884]

The only issue is that WWE has turned towards TKO being an actual company that owns UFC and exists firmly in the real world and the Smackdown brand is running with that. They have press conferences like major sports. They have the KZbin show that is exactly like a traditional sports show. That's the theme they have embraced and its working wonders. On the other side of that coin, you have this. Who signed the Sicks? Did TKO ask for their social security numbers? How are they hacking into the feed? Why isn't security or the police stopping them? These are questions that should be halfway answered for the sake of the suspension of disbelief. They could have dialed this way, way, way back and still have it work great. The Bloodline is over the top but they stay rooted in reality. It's not like Raw is bad or going to be bad. It's that they are now walking this tightrope creatively (for a gimmick that never really paid off, just generated some tremendous discrete moments) when they don't really need to be.

[@moffattman93]

Bo dallas has been having sitdown interviews with himself but dressed as howdy but shot using diff angles so it's done twice. People are saying it's not real and is imaginary? Well why tf are we watching it then if its not real 🤔

[@KomradeKrusher]

Just like Warrior in the mirror was supposed only to be in Hogan's mind, and I think we all agree that was one of the greatest angles ever. /s, just in case.

[@moffattman93]

Oh i remember that xD or when undertaker made randy hallucinate things like his dad being covered in blood etc xD that got forgotten to time but that was woeful too xD ​@KomradeKrusher

[@ad206]

When Jack Black went to Skull Island and captured footage of that big ape, I thought, "how are we just discovering this ape now?"

[@goofygoob420]

@@KomradeKrusher I feel like the VHS stuff is way more serious than that, and more real (emotionally)

[@danday9697]

I'm fine with the tapes. Having taped things like that is fine. I quite like him interviewing himself. The goofiness is when you see Nikki cross give the tape to Cole and the security guards are knocked out. That part is goofy and dumb

[@ThaRealWorld]

IT WAS WHATABURGER 😂 Come on Brian & Travis show us Texans some love

[@TeamVenomMedia]

I was under the impression that there was only going to be 5 of them as the 6th spot would be Bray Wyatt

[@slimmike56]

I thought the segments have been pretty well done, but im afraid the whole “mystique” with them will be gone once theyre actually “in the ring”

[@michaelhieber7697]

As a kid I legit thought Kevin Sullivan was satanist, lol. I think the Wyatt Sick6 stuff is kinda cool and I'm game to see where it goes but it's not my favorite. I agree with Corny on this. Creepy swamp murderers would be fine(ish) but supernatural stuff is a little goofy to me. Just my opinion.

[@ToastyJason]

Kevin Sullivan is a Satanist though

[@clickphasegang]

TBF if The Undertaker was starting in 2016 there would be A LOT of photos like that.

[@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother]

Social media didn’t exist either when The Undertaker was starting in 1990.

[@strifenineteen]

Kayfab was also a thing back when taker first started

[@FishJesus420]

@@strifenineteenyes, when there wasn’t social media, and it was easier to be out of the public eye

[@newfiejesus]

undertaker wouldn't exist today. Mark Calloway got that gimmick just in time, and protected it beautifully...

[@meciocio]

I didn't know cameras and the internet were invented in 2016. Good to know

[@hearTelus]

Fuck anyone who thinks the theatrical supernatural bullshit should be on a wrestling show.

[@ChapoBlanco]

I can’t be the only person that understands the vhs tapes and what the hell analog horror is. 🤦🏻‍♂️ They’re doing great with it.

[@devilkid292]

Bray Wyatt sucks and uncle howdy sucks

[@grant1739]

Ok devil kid.. you think it's edgy putting devil in your screen name 🙄😄

[@TheFifthChris]

Jim doesn’t care we disagree, fair. I don’t care that he doesn’t like it. I do, that’s what matters in my eyes.

[@Lemont5236]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@ojamabanana]

Have a medal kid

[@goofygoob420]

Respect

[@jaybee4288]

Then don’t watch him and comment on his stuff. Plenty of creators praise that garbage spooky crap, why’d you pick the one who doesn’t?

[@goofygoob420]

@@jaybee4288 why are you commenting

[@2400jets]

As a die hard Bray Wyatt fan who misses him dearly I couldn’t disagree with them more but at the same time I understand how they are & their views of wrestling so I can respect their feelings toward it but I’m happy as fuck for Taylor Rotunda & you’d just have to understand the type of person Bray was to know how special this is

[@chapingaryjr]

As much as i like bray i don't think wyatt sicks will last to long

[@Gee-xx3oi]

Personally im not into the Wyatt stuff...even the crowd chanting 'holy shit!' suprised me like, is that all it takes ..I get there is kids who watch but is the average audience age 12 years old? Lol sheesh

[@greasy2007]

Yea it definitely wasn't a holy S moment

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

I was never a fan of this stuff back when Bray Wyatt was alive.

[@User27949]

same may he rip but just because he is gone doesn’t mean that we have to be forced to liked this

[@mychaeljones7526]

No one is asking for your opinion or if you like it. Watch it or don't. 😅😅😅

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

@@mychaeljones7526 🍅🍅🍅 weak ah comment

[@raysiva]

You don’t have to like it. I think Bo Dallas looked good in the latest VHS scenes, but I don’t think I’ll like the weird animal outfits.

[@jaybee4288]

@mychaeljones7526 Terrible argument. We are forced to watch it if we like and enjoy the rest of the show, because they keep pushing it in other guys segments.

[@tizzleforrizzle]

Jims "i don't care" made me laugh so dang hard. The mans timing is impecable.

[@javieratwood4445]

*This why we FUX w/ Jim he Stand on Business Regardless💯💯*

[@AriFantis]

I think Bray is either the spiritual 6th member or more likely Alexa Bliss will return as Sister Abigail

[@pendafen7405]

Mox should come back, considering how much Bray in life adored him specifically. Of course, he won't (and can't? AEW contract and all), but by rights and to honour Windham he should.

[@goofygoob420]

@@pendafen7405 thats bait

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Alexa Bliss is too good for this crap. She can wrestle and talk and doesn’t need to rely on the cheapest of stupid gimmicks to get over.

[@nikolaikolev8433]

Wyatt6 doesn't need Alexa.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Alexa needs to be as far away from this as possible. Getting her involved in this Wyatt stuff never helped her. She built a career for herself apart from this. Ppl may think it's crazy to say it, but she's way too good to be associated this stuff.

[@IndigoUchiha26]

I love Bray, we miss him but this uncle howdy stuff is cheesy

[@yeahboy5133]

People forget this is a tribute to a character that was more miss than hit

[@SimonKeegan-qc2cu]

What about Undertaker acting in a Hogan movie when he was feuding with Hogan?

[@mac888spectral7]

Twas Whataburger, Jim.

[@ASwagPecan]

People forget just how bad that final Bray run was; revisionist history occurring.

[@ojamabanana]

the 10 year olds love it, it is who wwe is for

[@mmabuff101]

@@ojamabanana i don't. it was terrible

[@ToastyJason]

If that Satanic trash is for children it's time to revolt

[@tornicade]

@@ASwagPecan it was very good until it went off course. Bray didn't ask for the supernatural . He didn't ask for a sponsored match and after Vince got ahold of the gimmick Brock had no interest in it. Even as a squash match. Bray had a story that featured captain howdy and was set to dismiss the invulnerability of the fiend. We never got to see that story and many people appear be interested in it being told .

[@heyyo7708]

Because it got cut short from his illness. D0D0

[@marcscarvalli7524]

Cornette is always correct.

[@frankunodostres473]

why is this even a discussion? we are all allowed to disagree or agree with anything... who gives a shit lmao

[@lovelywaz]

As I mentioned in the previous video about their debut, I am with Jim. This BS simply doesn't work in 2024. We "pretended" it was good for Undertaker BECAUSE it was Undertaker, NOT because that crap was any good. No to mention Undertaker started as a dead man when it literally was "gimmicks period". He was just one of them and later on he changed and evolved his "gimmick" to some extent to make sure it didn't look complete and utter BS as times changed too.

[@wh2577]

Corny recognizes corny.

[@Tompeteux]

Anything beyond the creepy swamp people cult, when it was Wyatt,Harper and Rowan, is completely unbelievable and will always crash and burn after a certain point.i hope they go with those 5 as just an unhinged group(with creepy presentation) and keep any “supernatural “ stuff out

[@RickySpanish-hc2hw]

Fans were booing the shit between Wyatt/Knight out of arenas for months. The group is just a sad reminder that Wyatt and Harper are not around anymore.

[@Immortalangel14]

I love this thumbnail

[@alexschultz4066]

I get this Rob Zombie inspired BS out of Uncle Howdy and his band of misfits, and I am personally just not into. It's fine that some are but it just doesn't do it for me.

[@KomradeKrusher]

Exactly what it is, pseudo horror BS for angsty, edgy thirtysomethings who got misty eyed when a bunch of murderous rednecks got shot to the sounds of "Freebird" because they believed it to make a similar point like the end of "Easy Rider" did thirty years earlier.

[@user-hz5lt7ki2o]

And it's PG Rob Zombie. It's more like his Munsters movie.

[@Zero-is-infinite]

“Wyatt is the light” and prob will be the “6th” person until Alexa. Bliss comes back to be the official 6th member instead off chasing a belt 🙃

[@duaneshank6788]

"Do live horror movie shows ..plays...things..." I love how Cornette phrases a disgusted idea 😅

[@jeanlongsden1696]

there was a 6th puppet in the Firefly Fun House, but I don't think we will see him. as it was Vince with Devil horns.

[@prestone.garrison4430]

Wobbly Walrus as Paul Heyman too and a Friendship Frog. Guess that could be Miz. 🐸 😂

[@yoferpher]

Watch it end up being Puppet H

[@Anicade]

Brian not recoginizing they are at Whataburger is sad. Even a logical guess considering the fan is wearing a mavs jersey.

[@TheNotSure]

Sad? What are you complaining about? A name of a fucking burger joint as if that was the point. 🤦‍♂️

[@invisible.fatman]

Who eats fast food that much? It's all garbage. Unless the name's in a photo how is anyone supposed to know? All places look alike now anyway. It's all geared to make us calm and obey expectations.

[@TheCavemanBrown]

@@invisible.fatmanit actually is in the pic. The baseball players in the background have Whataburger on the back of their jerseys.

[@RoachOverlord]

He's from the northeast. Cut him a little slack. I wouldn't fault someone from the west coast for not knowing about Cook Out or Bojangles.

[@mr.d00m37]

Fat dude detected

[@dwade6322]

At this point in WWE,you do kind of just have to 'go with it'. There's no more wondering if anything is real,so it becomes literally a tv show...after all kids,it's not a Sport.

[@VegetaAlex]

Let's not forget in WWE the Miz got chased by zombies... 🧟‍♂️

[@FishJesus420]

Bo’s promos have been the realest thing I’ve seen in wrestling in a while

[@ItsYuhBoyyyy]

Which is crazy given absurdity of the gimmick

[@FishJesus420]

@@ItsYuhBoyyyyI love how bray was always able to include his real life struggles in his over the top gimmicks. Bo is doing a wonderful job carrying that legacy on with these types of spooky yet very real emotion promos. It’s the best work I’ve seen since… well bray tbh 😂 nothing in wrestling has even come close to being as hype as the fiend for me except maybe Lashley finally getting his wwe title run

[@stephenburkers4126]

Its not a supernatural gimmick its mental illness gimmick. This was proven last night

[@ojamabanana]

Something wwe fans understand very well

[@jojomellon]

So the smoke that follows them around is part of the mental illness? No one called the authorities when they shot Chad Gable?

[@Adam-yt7yc]

Exactly. There's a reason why it's the Wyatt *Sicks* and not the Wyatt 6. Lol.

[@svekkapung]

Arena goes black, smoke appears, security knocked out, all within 5 seconds, and only a tiny woman appears. Yeah, not hokey at all

[@stephenburkers4126]

​@svekkapung, nothing they have done has been supernatural. He has a split personality that was the whole point of the segment

[@ryanmussell739]

Can the Wyatt’s wrestle ? That was always Brays problem.

[@catrakes5276]

Love how Jim pulled em in then hit em with the racket once again lol. Dgafftf 😅

[@Davehhhh]

I'm not in favor of this Wyatt stuff either, it's just not for me

[@goofygoob420]

Its not that i want jim and brian to change their opinions more that i want them to give it a chance

[@robertaitken4855]

Whether it is the Wyatt storylines or some of his thoughts on certain women’s matches, I can appreciate that Jim and Brian don’t agree 100 percent with my opinions and we don’t all have to blindly praise and echo every single thing they say.

[@digsgambit1012]

I mean this is a classic vanilla and chocolate moment and I'm cool with Jim sticking to his guns. It's entertainment folks not everyone needs to like everything or is gonna like everything you like.

[@gilbertoaleman1810]

Uncle Howdy is a stupid name

[@MichaelSweeney92519]

Not really.. Pretty sure it's a play on the movie strange lands main character "Captain Howdy" so it makes perfect sense actually

[@The3Kings]

Y’all expect them to remain in character 24/7 when things like social media and cellphones exist. Undertaker didn’t have to worry about that in the 90s ffs.

[@thandolwethuthabethe4583]

Then don’t do a goofy gimmick cause you’re selling real and acting fake so sell it all the time and act all the time…

[@ewauksonian]

Also, Undertaker took a while to "cook". A lot of hus stuff was built over years, not weeks.

[@adamkolencik5186]

​@@thandolwethuthabethe4583 It literally isnt a supernatural gimmick. Its a story of a genuine underdog babyface, now broken and deranged guy, who cannot cope with the loss of his brother, who was a former world champion. Just admit you dont like any dark or gritty gimmicks.

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

​@ewauksonian speak English, stop using degenerate slang.

[@The3Kings]

@@thandolwethuthabethe4583 they aren’t selling real, they’re selling entertainment. This isn’t the 80s anymore sorry to be the one to tell you.

[@JamesSmith-tk6pg]

This may shock a lot of people, but you are allowed to like or dislike something without needing others to do the same.

[@Kalbuir66]

I don't mind when people don't like things I like, but I like them to at least have a somewhat decent, explainable reason other than.... "it sucks"

[@dm-pj7cp]

@@Kalbuir66 it just does tho

[@Kalbuir66]

@@dm-pj7cp If you can't explain why you don't like something in a coherent fashion than most likely you're just repeating someone else's reaction.

[@TheWheelsHaveEyes73]

They have yet to do anything supernatural.

[@brettt141]

WWE fans hate when you criticize their product, but love it when you criticize AEW. Stick to that and the WWE babies will eat it up

[@Davidthom80]

I agree with Jim it’s hokey shit. If bray didn’t die it would be shelved

[@gman2015z]

Nah Bray woulda still been on tv. You don’t know what you’re saying.

[@Killswitch-Overdrive.]

Maybe they can find a large present box that Abdullah the Butcher can jump out of and attack an unsuspecting mark. That was a Cornette creative decision.

[@damian_cross]

But Bray did die, and there's a lot of good will that has come along with that. If you're going to try something like this, now is the time.

[@knoxirving377]

Bray is the 6th, like the 6th man in basketball .. I think.

[@ebransc09]

You could get away with it on some KZbin show or something, but this can’t exist alongside Gunther & Bron & Drew

[@IntellectualWarrior-r5o]

As long as they don't take forever to get to the point I'll be cool with it.

[@pendafen7405]

Gainax ending

[@czbrat]

It's WWE. They take a 6 month story and stretch it to 2 years.

[@pendafen7405]

@@czbrat literally though? Hasn't it been a 4 or 5 year bloodline run? It feels like that long even if it's not.

[@czbrat]

@@pendafen7405 Yeah man I just tuned out the entirety of Roman's title reign because it was the same finish every single time. I remember only the bulldozer spot with Brock Lesnar because it might be the only match I watched. WWE has realised that they don't need to do new things, they can just keep doing the same thing that people like and just milk it slowly and forever.

[@DanCoper]

Sad truth is If bray hadn't passed 99% of the people who "love it" wouldn't give a fuck about it

[@robertmagill6005]

Bullshit

[@DanCoper]

@@robertmagill6005 the 6? I know

[@Wasteland-Sector-63]

That is bullshit.

[@DaltonRiley25]

@@DanCoper yep

[@MasonTheDad]

The beauty of wrestling is we can like different things, give it a few minutes and something else will come on.

[@spacegodfight]

If they weren't doing this, all of the people in the Wyatt Sicks would just be sitting at the house. So let mthem see if they can get this over and make some money. That being said, this is stupid. The people They work with either don't sell it and bury the gimmick or they sell it and bury themselves. Bray was great, not the gimmick. You can't get that back by just giving the gimmick to someone else. Alexa Bliss already got buried by this gimmick. And she was actually working with Bray and was way more over than any of these people.

[@THISHANDLEHASNOTBEENTAKEN]

Damn it, i just wanna know what they thought about the promo

[@FishJesus420]

They’re not even gonna give it chance. They just don’t get it. What can you do 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@THISHANDLEHASNOTBEENTAKEN]

@@FishJesus420 I got some hope for brian at the very least but yeah, jim's gonna just gloss over it

[@scottaftem497]

I was burnt alive for questions such as, "Did she bring a smoke machine just to deliver some mail?"

[@BJORNArtist]

I wish Jim and Brain were wrong but it's well pitchy from what I've seen. The Bo promos are the money, that emotion, but the film shit is gonna ruin it. Hollywood writers are the shits, it's wrestling not a movie. Edit: They took a photo with a fan.... 😐 Fuck this shit, Y'all don't get it. Y'all wanna know why Priests isn't a good champ? There a vid of him cooking comedy on WWEs YT... Taker: "Perception IS reality" A ps. I say that having enjoyed Bray Wyatt's art, the Cena 'match' is an amazing wrestling inspired piece of film they took a gamble on because Covid etc It's not wrestling, but its great art. Never the two shall meet, wrestling HAS to be 'real' or its pointless IMO. End rant.

[@methos19751]

I understand Jim's perspective even if I don't agree with it, no one agrees with others 100% of the time. Welcome to reality.

[@johngallagher72]

I like Corny. He is pretty funny and is usually bang on on his assessments.However entertainment is subjective and one should always form their own opinion.

[@Fencellisk]

Absolutely right. But people choosing to listen to his opinion and blasting him is just silly. Lol! That's what people do.

[@johngallagher72]

​@@Fencelliski agree .. its kind of why i dont use Twitter . Way to toxic.

[@chrischar9428]

Entertainment sure. Doesn't fit in the scope of wrestling. Sorry

[@johngallagher72]

@@chrischar9428 But Samoan tribal warfare does ? The only real wrestling happens weekly in high school gyms and at the Olympics every four years. Everything else is entertainment, subjective and up for grabs.

[@Absinthexx7]

That’s kind of the point though, there’s a huge fraction of the pro wrestling audience that doesn’t like this stuff to the point it starts to make the whole show feel dumb. That’s part of why aew was such a disappointment, they could’ve been a really good wrestling promotion that was more sports based than comedy and entertainment. When hhh took over a lot of these things from Vince went away, so for a lot it was hopeful this wouldn’t really be a thing. Personally I hope it’s better and different than it was before, I honestly haven’t watched any of it because it doesn’t interest me but we’ll see where it goes

[@joeypaschal958]

Yes because everyone had cell phones and social media existed when the Undertaker first began. 🙄

[@douglascarter2078]

Big difference between being seen in public and soliciting yourself in public.

[@joeypaschal958]

@@douglascarter2078 right. So a fan approaches them at this restaurant, they decline the picture. Then there’s a segment of wrestling fans that are crucifying them for being jerks to their fan base. So I guess they can’t ever dine in at a restaurant?

[@invisible.fatman]

I did.

[@douglascarter2078]

@@joeypaschal958 If they are heels then they shouldn't give a damn if people think they are jerks and no they probably shouldn't all be running around together out in public if they are trying to keep the mystique. I honestly don't care, but I do think it makes them less scary, less intimidating and hurts their chosen gimmick. Order from the drive thru next time.

[@xymoriintus]

As if someone can't take a picture without asking someone's consent lol come on now Mr suit and tie

[@mikemitchell5867]

Windham Rotunda was an unbelievably charismatic person. I wish that he could've had a run as a version of himself. The one we saw in his return promo.

[@AmazingGuy13]

Alexa Bliss is the sixth member and will be revealed as the co-leader because she's the biggest star.

[@allenhughes60]

Until they start teleporting and throwing lightning, I'm all in for this stuff.

[@SkylerRapier0]

Im giving this a shot, there debut was imo excellent, the build up with the qr codes was great, but im a bit sceptical on it but its just gotten started on TV.

[@chalkbodyoutline]

Debut sucked. They just came out at a snails pace. Wowie wowie.

[@Killswitch-Overdrive.]

Cornette's idea of creative is pushing Abdullah the Butcher down to ringside in a present box and having him jump out to attack an unsuspecting mark.

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

Bring back Waylon Mercy

[@yusufgazi7]

BO DALLAS PROMOS HAVE BEEN GREAT

[@johngallagher72]

also the production and story telling has been Hollywood movie level .

[@ojamabanana]

@@johngallagher72 😆😆😆

[@royconestoga7326]

Your caps lock is broken bud.

[@GuyoftheStars]

Not really

[@douglascarter2078]

Rambling incoherent nonsense is what's its been.

[@DownClownTownFrown]

Jim can not like it, that’s fine. But it’s when he’s like “oh this won’t get over” or “this won’t draw money”. This has been getting a shit load of views across social media and KZbin. People are into it, the reaction to these segments has been mostly positive. And the picture with the fan thing, it’s a different era. Kayfabe is basically dead. No one thinks any wrestler this day and age are the same people when they are not in the ring.

[@joegreene7619]

Hasn't sold a single ticket. Social media views don't ever translate into actual money made.

[@DownClownTownFrown]

@@joegreene7619 it’s hard for them to sell tickets when, as far as I know, they’ve yet to be properly advertised. Every appearance by them has been a surprise by design. I’d also argue there are very few individual wrestlers that would actually drive ticket sales. Most people arnt buying tickets to specific wrestlers outside of the biggest names like Roman, Cody, Punk Or Rhea. They’re buying tickets to see “Raw” or “Smackdown” or WWE. Also WWE has been selling out like almost every show. Unless people start refunding tickets because of the Wyatt Sicks I think they’re gonna be fine.

[@Jay-ek9fu]

​@@joegreene7619and you know it hasn't sold a Ticket how exactly?

[@CyborgElbow]

​@@Jay-ek9fuBecause WWE is struggling so badly with ticket sales right now, clearly (lol). He doesn't, he just made it up.

[@joegreene7619]

@@Jay-ek9fu Ratings drop after each quarter hour that the Wyatt SUCKS crap is on.

[@chwenhoou]

Jim mentioning Rax restaurant made me feel older than the trees.

[@davidwilliams560]

I’m with corny in this this whole giving Micheal Cole a vhs. Tape every week with Bo Dallas and. Uncle boy howdy. Talking to each other about nonsense is just plain damn dumb

[@Kalbuir66]

except it's not nonsense. You have to actually listen to what they're saying and then have some intelligence to understand what it's foreshadowing. I get that's beyond most people these days though.

[@CyborgElbow]

I take it Brian is too embarrassed to mention how he originally thought this was going to go down so badly it'd "help AEW?" *BIG* swing and a miss there, however you look at it.

[@djsognal]

It’s been a week. You sound like Meltzer. I bet you’ll be peddling the same “BUT BUT HE SAID” for the next 5 years too. How many comments are you planning to make on this video defending the angle?

[@CyborgElbow]

​@@djsognalYeah, how dare I point out someone was wrong about something, no way Jim and Brian would ever do that, right? And I'll post as many comments about anything as I want, I don't care what you think about that.

[@djsognal]

@@CyborgElbowAnd nobody cares what you think. Keep yapping :)

[@CyborgElbow]

​@@djsognalClearly you do since you're butthurt about it for whatever reason

[@ellisdalton4282]

@@djsognal I care about CyborgElbow's opinion. The dude's IQ seems way higher than yours.

[@scottmartin3228]

Doing a spooky entrance is one thing, but having them doing that Haunted House everyone laid out dead stuff was just stupid.

[@andrewbrown5139]

Yeah we get it Jim you dont like the spooky stuff. Except Bidens debate performance probably loved that train wreck 😂

[@murdacide0472]

It was at a Whataburger they were in corpus Christi that night