Jim Keller: The Future of Computing, AI, Life, and Consciousness | Lex Fridman Podcast

Jim Keller is a legendary microprocessor engineer, previously at AMD, Apple, Tesla, Intel, and now Tenstorrent. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:33 - Good design is both science and engineering
7:33 - Javascript
11:40 - RISC vs CISC
15:39 - What makes a great processor?
17:09 - Intel vs ARM
18:58 - Steve Jobs and Apple
21:36 - Elon Musk and Steve Jobs
27:21 - Father
31:03 - Perfection
37:18 - Modular design
42:52 - Moore's law
49:50 - Hardware for deep learning
56:44 - Making neural networks fast at scale
1:04:22 - Andrej Karpathy and Chris Lattner
1:08:36 - How GPUs work
1:12:43 - Tesla Autopilot, NVIDIA, and Mobileye
1:17:23 - Andrej Karpathy and Software 2.0
1:23:43 - Tesla Dojo
1:26:20 - Neural networks will understand physics better than humans
1:28:33 - Re-engineering the human brain
1:33:26 - Infinite fun and the Culture Series by Iain Banks
1:35:20 - Neuralink
1:40:43 - Dreams
1:44:37 - Ideas
1:54:49 - Aliens
1:59:46 - Jordan Peterson
2:04:44 - Viruses
2:07:52 - WallStreetBets and Robinhood
2:15:55 - Advice for young people
2:17:45 - Human condition
2:20:14 - Fear is a cage
2:25:04 - Love
2:31:27 - Regrets
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[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Brooklinen: brooklinen.com and use code LEX to get $25 off + free shipping - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - Belcampo: belcampo.com/lex and use code LEX to get 20% off first order 1:33 - Good design is both science and engineering 7:33 - Javascript 11:40 - RISC vs CISC 15:39 - What makes a great processor? 17:09 - Intel vs ARM 18:58 - Steve Jobs and Apple 21:36 - Elon Musk and Steve Jobs 27:21 - Father 31:03 - Perfection 37:18 - Modular design 42:52 - Moore's law 49:50 - Hardware for deep learning 56:44 - Making neural networks fast at scale 1:04:22 - Andrej Karpathy and Chris Lattner 1:08:36 - How GPUs work 1:12:43 - Tesla Autopilot, NVIDIA, and Mobileye 1:17:23 - Andrej Karpathy and Software 2.0 1:23:43 - Tesla Dojo 1:26:20 - Neural networks will understand physics better than humans 1:28:33 - Re-engineering the human brain 1:33:26 - Infinite fun and the Culture Series by Iain Banks 1:35:20 - Neuralink 1:40:43 - Dreams 1:44:37 - Ideas 1:54:49 - Aliens 1:59:46 - Jordan Peterson 2:04:44 - Viruses 2:07:52 - WallStreetBets and Robinhood 2:15:55 - Advice for young people 2:17:45 - Human condition 2:20:14 - Fear is a cage 2:25:04 - Love 2:31:27 - Regrets

[@AndyPynch]

YES LEX! I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!!!

[@HiberNAT]

Jim Keller looking real jedi talking about prepping your dreams

[@swaggerspot1]

no book recs? :)

[@juliav1843]

Hi Lex, I think you missed mentioning the sponsors.

[@ayjzeehyphenwadr5849]

Can't wait to see some more content a little less on the AI side of things

[@cookiesandcartoons]

Never clicked so fast. Keller is an absolute legend.

[@mikhailfranco]

_"legend and guru"_ - Wikipedia

[@hoolerboris]

His first appearance on this podcast was probably my favorite episode. Maybe only equaled by the one with Wolfram on pockets of reducible complexity.

[@tanmayyaduvanshi5422]

I get to know him throw this podcast and I think he's truly smart and has a genuine opinion on life n stuff.

[@imbra]

Oh, this is going to be good :) Jim Keller's first interview was my favorite of all the ones I saw.

[@lexfridman]

Yes, Jim is brilliant.

[@kumarshanu6429]

@@lexfridman sir please interview prof. Geoffrey Hinton

[@drayalec2928]

Agreed

[@xXKM4UXx]

@@kumarshanu6429 I would set aside my entire day and grab popcorn for that

[@joech1065]

Same! I my brain is already salivating as I click “play”

[@SolvingTheMoneyProblem]

Great chat. Don't wait so long to invite Jim Keller back next time!

[@thdjjfsfh]

I know, it's always an honor to listen to the Silicon Valley Ronin.

[@thdjjfsfh]

@@thewiseturtle when you really want to listen to this man, a year feels like an eternity. I am a big fan of his work, this way it feels like you know the man. Great to see that he had such a good relationship with his father.

[@rct999]

I was about to post the same thing!

[@peterkay7458]

@@thdjjfsfh the cage thing with Jim laughing is priceless. It tells me his dad was the coolest lol and it rubbed off on everyone especially his son.

[@sigara91]

He is brilliant. I'm not an IT guy but he sure knows a lot about computers, people, organizations, creativity, management, leadership, relationships and life. A genius.

[@piyh3962]

2:25:05 Peak Jim Keller roast after a long interview with a lot of Jim's optimism butting up against Lex's "life is suffering" mindset- L - "I'm going to ask you about love" J - "I've heard your into this now" L - "Into this Love thing?" J - "Do you think this is the solution to your depression?"

[@peterkay7458]

Ryan, I think Jim is a boss forhow he handled that and the cage convo. No wonder he finds machine level easy if he understands people so well.

[@metatron5199]

There were so many moments throughout this conversation that Keller was making lex look like a fool respectfully of course, but nonetheless he still showed just how naive lex really is, which imo was great! And very hilarious and entertaining. Keller is clearly a polymath in a world where there are few left…

[@closetcleaner]

@@metatron5199 The podcast show is about Lex and not his guests. One day, if Lex grows, he will look back and laugh at himself. That's life, I've been there.

[@julesbassuk]

It calms me a little to listen into conversations like this.

[@FromFame]

I love both their voices too, how they talk about an exciting future in a planful way

[@lencivargas]

me too!

[@zeppkfw]

For me it's because I know that there are still incredibly smart people still working for the betterment of humanity.

[@julesbassuk]

@@zeppkfw the most calming part indeed.

[@razeezar]

I just finished listening to this episode whilst playing around on the guitar and just pottering around. One of my newer favourite podcasts to listen to, for sure!

[@anthonysuppa2312]

Lex has upgraded from "this was kinda fun" to "this was fun" on the Jim Keller scale.. Congrats Lex, easily your greatest accomplishment

[@00jknight]

Jim is the first interviewee who I've seen call out Lex a little bit. "You think [love] the solution to your depression?", and telling Lex he's rigid and must be afraid of something. This is true friendship. True mentorship.

[@calmexit6483]

You can tell that Jim really respects Lex.

[@metatron5199]

Idk if its really friendship so much as its just being a decent human being… nothing more than that, and by all means he actually makes lex look like the naive fool that he is at times but does so in a respectful manner so as not to make himself look childish or foolish while doing so… again its just basic conversational skills….

[@metatron5199]

@@calmexit6483 idk about that, doesn’t really seem like any deep connection between the two there (not saying he doesn’t respect him, but no more than any other person per se), Keller just comes off as a good conversationalist as well as just a decent human being more so than anything to do with a friendship…. I guess if that’s what you consider friendship, than sure I guess, but that seems to be a really loose and awfully wide goal posts of what friendship is than… there isn’t really enough information to glean if they are actually friends from either of their sides of the conversation… its not hard to be a decent human being to other ppl in the world… its just called being considerate, and thoughtful… like I said if that was the only level to friendship, then shit I’d have to considered almost everyone I’d ever spoken w/ a friend which wouldn’t make any sense at all to be fair here…. Cheers

[@Tombombadillo999]

@@metatron5199 cheers

[@heroblok6]

Yes! People usually agree or just let lex go on and say his last word about the subject. then go off into his next question.

[@motivationforbreakfast]

I can’t get enough of this guy’s directness, clarity, and zero ego. I wonder what he’s like as a dad, husband, boyfriend, friend, boss or peer

[@paulcassidy4559]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@jessickidopolis9040]

Lex or his guest?

[@yury_kim]

I wish I had a professor like him back in school :)

[@deadsypadilla]

Its hard on a pimp

[@nrejajarian8178]

sigma

[@shadow7037932]

Jim Keller basically saved AMD several times. Dude deserves a hell of a lot of credit.

[@jihadjoe]

Intel already hired him, but some stupid imbecile in management didn't want to be saved.

[@autohmae]

@@jihadjoe They've now put a technical guy at the helm at Intel who has done good things for Intel in the past.

[@joeyg29jgjg]

@@autohmae fucking finally. intel has mastered squeezing blood from a rock recently I hope they choose a new direction.

[@jessiehoward158]

Jim Keller is the fuckin man, he`s helped PC/cloud/mobile/self driving/ machine learning.

[@paladinpainter3715]

AI IS NOTHING COMPARED TO ME, I FUG IT TO IT WITH MY CAPABILITIES. IT FALLS TO ME TO CLOSE THAT BOOK zzz

[@arcanevideos]

So glad you brought Jim back. The last podcast with him was one of the best.

[@JohnDoe69986]

@Lex Fridman this is definitely a fraud account people

[@kylematlock7499]

@@JohnDoe69986 Wow LoL

[@andrewfrolovgmailcom]

We need a round #3 with Jim, talking about non-tech stuff. He is clearly very good at philosophy and management.

[@nBasterd]

Agreed

[@hnasr]

34:00 I can totally relate this, discussing ideas with smart people I always almost get lost but when I sit on it I see what each was thinking and I always thought I am slow in capturing in that regards when in fact the ideas as so profound and complex they need to marinate to make sense

[@zuhairmehdee]

Ayy it's Hussein the backend engineering guru.

[@Andytlp]

He also mentions giving your brain orders like pulling ideas before sleep and dreaming working on it and ordering the brain to remember it after waking up. Fascinated because its something ive noticed before. You simply give the brain a task, an idea to figure out and then just let it do its thing then a few hours days or even a week later you get a sudden realization and have a solution at hand. Its a better version of shower thoughts because youre aware of the mechanics behind it. People think of stuff one day in the shower and next day during shower they get their answers.

[@michelcote]

This guy knows the essence of engineering and understand the processes at high level very well. Really smart guy

[@aidenstern5254]

Explain yourself this makes no sense. Engineering is applied math . What is the point of pure math if it doesn’t apply to reality. It’s just a glorified puzzle at that point

[@aidenstern5254]

@Bb K I didn’t say anything about Lex and all you’ve done is say “engineering bad” so explain what is good then lol

[@ranku9690]

@@aidenstern5254 I think he's one of those hate watchers. Just mad at everyone else for their own struggles or some sort of psychology like that. Him calling lex a shadow of a human being is all I need to know for his frame of mind.

[@brunoribaric9683]

Lex's ability to explore the emotions behind highly technical minds and share that publicly is unprecedented.

[@luanswine7336]

Yes.

[@darylallen2485]

Lex will bring us the fi fi like no one else!

[@toddmaek5436]

You peeped that too?

[@wizard_bunny]

This is mostly why i listen to Lex's podcasts.

[@johnstifter]

"I didn't read until the 3rd or 4th grade and my parents were like oh he'll be fine" - Jim Keller

[@thomash4810]

I wish he elaborated on this a bit more. Did he have a learning disability that delayed his ability to learn reading? Or did he already know how to read? And chose not to read because he didn’t like it or thought it was boring until he was in 3rd or 4th grade.

[@RoryJordaan]

@@thomash4810 it's kinda multifaceted with dyslexia. It's a range of issues, with each individual experiencing different obstacles. I don't pretend to know his exact circumstances, but one could guess that he struggled to learn the alphabet, then struggled to learn words and how to spell/ read them, and then struggled for years to get used to the way that their brain processes words. It doesn't just click all at once, generally, it's more a slow march through the mud that eventually becomes comparable to other people's ease of reading.

[@drhilm]

"The future of computing is inefficiency at scale". Love it.

[@BenState]

this must be where reductionism (which he clearly loves) becomes chaos.

[@caitlinV3]

Absolutely brilliant episode. I felt like a fly on the wall for a profound yet comfortable conversation. Lex is killing it with the guests lately!

[@infiction7651]

I listened to Jim's first interview here at least 4 or 5 times, it really opened my mind to things I had never thought about on topics I never realized i was interested in, excited for this, thanks lex!

[@ClayMann]

you just summed up beautifully why I always seek out people smarter than me. That's not a hard task in my case but I learned early on than hanging around fools made me at least feel more like a fool myself. Their habits rubbed off on me. The great thing was the smartest people had the exact same effect. I learned more and it opened my mind to exciting possibilities. Even on KZbin I have this rule to only find positive channels which isn't easy as so many are negative and feed on negative drama.

[@6ixpool520]

@@ClayMann Well said my mann

[@sergiobollana]

I just paused this and I'm reflecting on how fortunate I am to be listening to this level of information freely, just sitting in my house. You're here listening to the top minds in their game (and I'm including Lex into this category) openly discuss their thought processes and ideas. This level of access to this type of information was up until not so long ago reserved only to a select group of people in very specific circles. I know we humans are a f*cked up bunch, but I can't help being optimistic about us watching this... I'm sure there's a smart kid with a phone somewhere that got fired up listening to this and started his career as a scientist because of it and he will bring a better life to all of us.

[@unixcoder]

Well said my friend, well said

[@aaronanytime8897]

That kid didn't turn to science he turned to metaphysics.

[@galzafar2943]

This could be a LinkedIn post

[@Warley.Araujo]

completely agree!! The level of information we have today for free is insane!!!

[@jsn7929]

Can't stop thinking about this quote, "“Inevitably the organization gets captured by the bureaucracy that manages all the processes.”

[@cridr]

well, the sad truth is that you do not like your coffee " when the guy thu sell it wot you want it" you want it in an expected time, also you want you stocks to go up, you want your money to be well spent and especially this is the most important aspect " to know that in every moment you feel like" .. because of that all systems tent towards this capture" and it might be a good thing .. looking at the fact that WITH these problems, we are here, not by " allowing the creative minds do what they want when the want it " . Sincerely I do not like this too but I acknowledge the value, not the ideal possible value, the concrete current value, that makes me say this and see this on yt for example.

[@JohnDoe69986]

Same actually.

[@ichbindoofhihi1]

not gonna lie, since he said he saw Jim Keller at a neuralink conference Ive been waiting for this interview. His knowledge and intelligence are really inspiring.

[@hoolerboris]

Same. Also, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during their chance meeting and discussion there.

[@callmedeno]

this guy is brilliant, probably my favourite guest you've had on - absolutely precise with his words

[@takeshikovacs1081]

agree, plus he seemed to have answers way before Lex finished asking them, wish my brain worked like that, I would normally spend some time after the question has been asked to come up with my answer, especially when knowing I am on a podcast that many people will watch or listen to later on, but this guys is like his processors, processing words in a lightning speed and presenting the answer in an instant

[@mattj65816]

36:51 "Life is suffering, that's the reality..." "No it's not. I know the Buddhists said that and a couple other people are stuck on it...there's this kinda weird combination of good and bad, you know, light and darkness, that you have to tolerate and, you know, deal with." Jim handled that pretty well.

[@LeonGalindoStenutz]

That's not what Buddhism says. All the contrary, look deeper.

[@mattj65816]

@@LeonGalindoStenutz May be true, I have no basis for judging that one way or another, but his response was not centered on theology. More than a "couple" people are "stuck on it," too, but I'm not concerned about his ability to count.

[@justinbridgez]

Eevrytjing. Everything comes down to balance. Balance. The shades of gray. Even said. I don’t know I can make it

[@metatron5199]

@@LeonGalindoStenutz that is what is literally said about the material world in Buddhism, which is what Keller was clearly referencing, so to say he is incorrect is just flat out off basis and either you haven’t read any of the Buddhist text or your searching to make a point which isn’t relevant ie if you want to expound about the deeper truths that Buddhism promotes this isn’t the place in the comments section, make your own videos on the topic than…

[@laurihosio5272]

Keller is a true engineer. Great inspiration

[@dotails]

I love how he finally challenged Lex's essentialized death, pain, suffering belief. A lot of guests just nod and agree with their host, I love those who think for themselves, and see infinite potential of immortal fulfillment.

[@chancegreenisdead]

total brah

[@rearview2360]

Lex is dropping BOOOOOMBS

[@stankozubenko8520]

I never write my own comments...but Jim Keller is one of your top 3 guests, easy!

[@henrycullen950]

Love that advice for young people "Don't let old people screw you". Highlight of the podcast.

[@a.k.emerson1705]

Advice I so desperately needed.

[@Alistair_Spence]

Your first interview with him was one of your best, in my opinion. Great that you could get him back on for a second time.

[@Alistair_Spence]

@@scottykilmer1041 If this is some kind of test then I have failed it miserably. I have no idea what your comment means, but I still enjoyed the interview. Have a nice weekend Lex!

[@Garacha222]

@@Alistair_Spence looks like someone has hacked Lex account, and is spamming. lots of these comments showing up

[@jakey.t6989]

Another great episode so far! Just wanted to say Lex, you've actually inspired me to change career path at 28 and study Computer Science and doing little coding projects to learn. Just got accepted at University to start at the end of this year! Keep being you, your podcast is amazing. Much love!

[@voltdgt2529]

Awesome bro. Best of luck to you!

[@jakey.t6989]

@@voltdgt2529 Thanks my man. Hope you're getting after it too!

[@buzzl1ghtyear400]

I was into computers real young I was on the path of pursuing it but self medicating my anxiety took me down to rock bottom. I was just thinking to myself maybe this is a sign that at 29 I might still have it in me to do school but idk I really went through a lot I’d have to do a certification course since it’s only one class. School just isn’t compatible with me. Where useful tech knowledge could be is filled with endless information about prescription drugs and drugs in general(on some Hamilton Morris type shit) as well as psychology psychiatry which I f***n hate.

[@TravisGarnett]

@Jake Thorpe: That's amazing!! Continued success, and nothing less (except [maybe] more Lex listening 😉), as you enter your CS program...👊😎

[@jakey.t6989]

@@buzzl1ghtyear400 you should totally pursue it again if that feels right to you. Everyone goes through ups and downs, man. Try move on from it. It's all part of the game we call life. Good luck to you brother!

[@RobRobJuice]

The other day I was walking home from the store, thinking about Jim Keller, as one does. When I came inside, I took a seat in front of my computer, refreshed youtube and beheld "Jim Keller, Round 2". I screamed. I cannot describe how much I appreciate your work, Lex. Keep it up!

[@johnhammer8668]

This dude has so much wisdom and love to hear him talk more in the future. Jim Keller got profound insight.

[@TheRelul]

Please ask for Book Recommendations! That's such a good insight to a person's mind

[@timjohnson3913]

Booo. It’s a seemingly intelligent question from 2005 but 1) Lex does his research and doesn’t need these types of filler questions to generate discussion and 2) why put books on a pedestal when there are so many other great ways to learn (e-courses, podcasts where ideas can be constructively challenged vs just the author’s viewpoint, etc)

[@joech1065]

@@timjohnson3913 Books and academic papers are still the kind of information. The majority of information simply doesn't exist in any other form. Fortunately, many types of written content can be easily absorbed via text-to-speech, including papers. Some subjects don't translate well into audio form, though, because it is too formal and a natural language has hard time translating it. As for challenging ideas, I totally get the value of a live discussion for it, but the written form has that too: this is normally why citations are there, to discover what other scholars wrote about that work, how their built upon, challenged, improved it, etc. If you neven found yourself in a rabbit hole on Google Scholar, it is a trully world opening experience.

[@jan.tichavsky]

@@timjohnson3913 If you heard the previous interview with Jim you would know he reads a lot, recommends reading books and sometimes mentions something relating to the subject. So here it would be indeed great question.

[@peterkay7458]

@@jan.tichavsky fair and good point

[@TomTheDutchy]

Omg omg omg, the first keller podcast i listened to 5 times. This is amazing!

[@buiquocduy9518]

This CD has three separate relaxation/meditation sessions on it kzbin.infoUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq guided by a very pleasant and direct male voice. Unlike so many other products of its type, this CD does not have bad synthesizer music, does not feature a phony or affected style of narration, and does not make any bogus claims to be subliminal or to re-train the brain or any of that balderdash. What you get is 1. a guided meditation for getting into a pleasantly relaxed state of body awareness while taking a stroll (superb for those easing back into a fitness routine slowly after an illness or injury) 2. A nice long breath-awareness relaxation session that if followed diligently can put you into very deep states of full-body relaxation and mental calmness, and 3. a buddhist-inspired meditation session designed to help you develop and maintain feelings of loving kindness toward not just yourself and your friends, but toward people you don't even like. The CD makes no claims to be designed for advanced meditators or for buddhists or hindus/yoga practitioners looking for very deep and esoteric stuff. It is geared more toward the average person who just wants to develop the habit of relaxation and stress relief through natural, healthy means. him, if you happen to be reading this, keep up the good work fella, and I love your accent. I would also like to note that I have never fallen asleep while listening to this product. I would like to kindly suggest to the reviewer who said this CD makes him fall asleep, that he might want to get checked to see if he has a sleep disorder, or if he is simply not setting aside ample time for restful sleep at night. A healthy person getting adequate rest at night should be able to go into deep states of mental relaxation without dozing off, if not all the time, then most of the time.

[@refplusten]

"Good engineering IS great craftsmanship"

[@peterkay7458]

I loved how he defended to his core that putting on the brights is some of the finest craftsmanship....very humbling from a humble man

[@ibrahimshehata7286]

The Day Lex Blesses us with an Upload is a intellectual Holiday Sit back and Contemplate

[@jamiedenton2321]

More like sit back and contemplate the capital letters?

[@jamiedenton2321]

Hmm

[@ibrahimshehata7286]

@@jamiedenton2321 Its getting even of a problem in scientific papers with the amount of abbreviation being used as the complexity surpasses human cognition. Im an Systems Engineer that requires a wide range of comprehension in various fields where I find alot abb over lapping I suggested using AI to scan papers maybe even podcasts so users can benefit and synthesize more. Think about it as human compression algorithm

[@anandbalivada7461]

Everytime I watch anything involving Eric Weinstein, I come here to be refreshed. Everything about Jim Keller is anti-bullshit, and actually doing instead of armchair criticism. There are some really amazing parts where he goes into the technical aspects and still ties it into the bigger picture. That's what got me into listening to this podcast and I'm glad it still lives on.

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

I am 7 minutes into this conversation and I feel as if I have been given a.look into a higher dimension of thought. I like the way that this guy is rigorous and generous in discussion.

[@ToeStab45]

Fascinating conversation! We need more of this--thinking deeply about interesting topics versus keeping things at surface level. Thanks for your work Lex.

[@TAD-9]

Yeeeeees! I'm so happy to see another episode with Jim.

[@tt10tt]

Facts

[@sai2803]

So glad our beloved Gillfoyle is back!

[@jacobmalof]

You do a great job giving your guests room to open up while capturing the fascination they have for/ in their field. Hearing someone excitedly talk about their passion is good listening.

[@dsyncd555]

I started this at midnight and now it's 3am. This may be one of my favorite interviews.

[@DusanPavlicek78]

I loved this interview, it got much more philosophical and also just pure fun at times than I expected. You're doing great, Lex!

[@esausilva945]

This has quickly become my favourite podcast, the quality of the conversations and guests is second to none. Great work Lex, you're doing pretty good for a robot.

[@stashladki2594]

wow, this was unbelieavably captivating.. randomly bumped into the episode, I'm so glad I did

[@tekmentor]

Imagine a discussion between Jim and Jordan at the dinner table, jesus!

[@saeldus]

Ye, thought about how great it would be to listen some on youtube

[@SuperHeroINTJ]

Jordan Walke?

[@Kris-zw9gb]

Seeing Jim laugh towards the end of the podcast was so lovely

[@peterkay7458]

@@charlescoult imagine him as a team leader.....you d get like super cool CPUS :P

[@jonnyj.]

Jim keller is by far my FAVOURITE guest you've had on your show. What a blast to listen to this :D

[@nicolasdelgadolozano7890]

"The goal is to die in the biggest possible cage" -- Lex Fridman Hahaha very dark yet still strangely inspiring

[@JungleScene]

@Lucas James not necessarily. the cage can take many forms.

[@mtbandoutdoorfunwej2771]

No, you missed the whole thing. That's not the answer, Jim Keller, said, IDEALLY NO CAGE. lets not make stupid quotes now that are actually detrimental to adopt.

[@prodigalSon000]

I like this talk so much, I have to stop every ten minutes and check if I hit the like button. Damn

[@D3r3k2323]

Nice! I was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool to get Jim back on. Jordan Peterson next?

[@hal9000-channel]

Lex Fridman podcast is one of my favorites and so many wonderful interviews with many wonderful persons then I want to see Linus Torvalds in this podcast.

[@kunalpardikar7402]

I love the smart back & forths, when they really get into a groove near the end of the conversation. There should be different chapters in Lex's book! 😂

[@dapdapstuff]

First comment ☺️ Love Jim Keller. I am an engineer in Intel and most of Intellers I aksed really respect Jim Keller

[@joech1065]

@Lex Fridman Bye bye, my Nigerian Prince, it was nice meeting you, but the spam button is too seductive.

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

@Lex Fridman Real Lex, can you do something about these fake lexes?

[@CromeAicMusic]

@@joech1065 why did you say nigerian prince?

[@RobRobertRobbie]

MAN podcast number 1 with him was my favorite! So happy to see him again! LFE filling in for the JRE youtube content ;)

[@squashduos1258]

Please bring Jim Keller back!!!

[@korras21]

This interview is growing on me more and more since the day it has been released and it's just stunning on how many layers this is inspirational. Many Thanks Lex!

[@gfelsted]

Genuinely didn't expect this! I loved the first interview with Jim, but there's almost no other interviews with him around. Thanks for doing this, Lex!

[@KaloyCoder]

Being a self taught professional programmer, watching Lex Podcasts makes me see who are the REAL geniuses. Thanks Lex

[@coderfromscratch1486]

OK, I'll say it! We need at the very least another 2 rounds of Jim for 2021.

[@romanieo]

This was like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," for the mind. Jim Keller is rock solid. Had to resist the urge to Google everything he and Lex discussed, and simply enjoy the ride. It was well worth it. Would have taken 14 fortnights and who has that amount of time during a global pandemic? 🧐

[@fanboy223]

Fantastic interview Lex, digging deeper about his father was great.

[@andydo6271]

absolutely waiting for "Round 3" with Jim Keller... perhaps with more emphasis on "human side" aspects of building this incredibly complex systems

[@smann11b]

“It could be more beautiful”, hearing that quote just made things more beautiful. Amazing conversation. This podcast is deep on many levels, emotional and intellectual. Lex thank you 🙏.

[@mrdbourke]

Absolutely outstanding interview as always Lex! Can’t believe this is free... all the best for 1 million subs!

[@jimbo3952]

I'm glad Jim brought up Benzos... My best mate was prescribed Benzos as a teenager and he's been battling addiction since. He was the smartest most charismatic person I knew and now he can't even hold a job because his body physically won't let him. I've tried to help him for well over 10 years and there is literally nothing I can do. Doctors need to be held accountable.

[@quaidcarlobulloch9300]

Hi there, when? Thank you.

[@Marcos10PT]

One of my favorite guests ever, so happy to see him back on the podcast!

[@missh1774]

when you have to hit pause and rewind several times... you know its a damn good interview. thank you Lex.

[@sirousmohseni4]

Best couple of hours of my weekend was listening to this conversation. Thanks Lex for the show.

[@burgess163303]

The discovery of Lex has come at a great point in my life. Just an incredible introduction into a whole new world.

[@pollutedwaters8126]

Hell yeah, this was one of my favorites

[@user-ik8vy1rg8f]

Really glad you have Jim back again so soon. Loved his first appearance on the show.

[@Jameswjennings]

27:17 one of the realest podcast moments. The depth in this tiny little courageous exchange is profound. Thank you both. 🙏🏾

[@shred337]

Been hoping for round 2 , round 1 was incredible. Can't wait to listen!

[@parkerd2154]

Jim, thank you. You're a legend.

[@joeldupuis4182]

Lex I appreciate your curiosity around the philosophy and visions of these legends. Thank you for bringing these two worlds together.

[@Lex.Dachstein]

The first Jim Keller interview was one of the most interesting unexpected podcasts I have seen. I am glad he is back. Stephen Wolfram, Joschka Bach and Jim Keller :)

[@XxNoV4xAiRxBoRsxX]

wow the father section was perfectly done

[@MarieCrossbow]

This is the first time I've heard someone else describe their experience of working on concepts and ideas when dreaming. It happens to me every so often, where I'll solve something in my sleep or catch errors in my work while sleeping.

[@deepmistry3114]

+1. I wonder what gives rise to that state of mind.

[@ibrahimshehata7286]

It starts in college when that exam question wakes you up in the middle of the night

[@drakezaber]

I love the exploration of true humanity that your conversations produce. It really shines a light on legends and shows you that they are human at the core. So many amazing quotes "learn the language of your own mind" Perfect! I will try.

[@coffeemaddan]

Can't thank Lex and Jim enough for the food-for-thought that this whole episode provides. I'll be re-watching soon and will have a notepad nearby.

[@daikennett]

These ones are always incredible, the first one was epic and this one just expanded on it. Great job Lex, bring on round 3!

[@mattshubat]

Man Lex is on a freakin role. Well done man, keep up the great work.

[@RMquickbit]

So glad you had him back on the podcast. He’s by far my favorite guest and brilliant guy. 🙏🏼

[@ChristophyBrun]

It's really funny hearing Peterson's mannerisms in his speech with this guy. They're subtle, but definitely there.

[@ikillkings]

Phenomenal conversation, thanks for introducing me to Jim Keller Lex!

[@teslatears6293]

I'm loving your show Lex. Amazing conversation and insight

[@ereek5]

you've had some of my favorite podcasts ever over the past couple weeks. really awesome guests and discussions.

[@my3dmed146]

"If you want something to be bigger and interesting, you should define all its components instead of clumping them together". Wow! That is such an elemental block for building better processors for a building a happy life.

[@danishkhalid9255]

thank you! was waiting for the second one for so long!

[@toni3323]

"Good engineering is great craftsmanship. When you start thinking engineering is about invention and when you set up a system that rewards invention, the craftsmanship gets neglected". Wow! Also, Jim Keller is like the Coolest uncle I did not have. :(

[@haythamal-dokanji9547]

I watched the first round at the time and I thought it was great. This one is also an awesome interview. Engineering makes civilization possible and Jim is a genuine engineer with great work. He come across as a no nonsense and a good human. He has a certain gruffness that I like!

[@kubic71]

I cannot thank you enough Lex to bring these important conversations forward to the public! The value you are providing is immense.

[@jamescampi50]

Let loose with the advice at the end. Nice perspective. Love the laughter.

[@gabrielfkeith]

Much longer this time, so glad for that!

[@kristoferson16]

Love that you put timestamps, and I love this podcast. This was so entertaining!

[@AlexandruJalea]

It's clear that Lex has outgrown the AI podcast and he's also getting the recognition. The quality of the interviewees is just phenomenal. Lex, seriously good job. Well done.