More from Jim: www.simply-this.com Jim reacties to some comments under this video in a second talk: • Jim Newman & Patrick K...
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@volovcica155 жыл бұрын
- You must be fun at parties. - There is no party.
@premranga27005 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!!
@TheRealHipPriest5 жыл бұрын
Actually there is only partying but no one attends
@volovcica155 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHipPriest hahah true
@robertjsmith5 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHipPriest there is an apparent party
@kburtsev4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :)
@ndnd20235 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to have a call with Jim last night. His pointing to non duality is so clear and without contradiction or compromise. I was left absolutely speechless..
@particleconfig.89353 жыл бұрын
For once, "I" shut up =D
@everest0015 жыл бұрын
Jim sounds to me like the clearest, friendliest and most coherent expression of this. Thanks for a great interview also.
@Johnphilips12343 жыл бұрын
He’s actually such a fun and hilarious dude as well. He always has such a laugh with crowd at his talks and it’s just like talking to a totally regular, down to earth guy. But when he gets into the non duality stuff , he also capable of blowing a few minds as he goes along ......
@particleconfig.89353 жыл бұрын
You meant that?
@johnmc38623 жыл бұрын
‘This’ is his gig.
@everest001 Жыл бұрын
@@particleconfig.8935 Yeah absolutely. I think he's great.
@CT250724 күн бұрын
"friendliest and most coherent expression of this" What is "this"?? Is this the religion of "this"? Lol...
@rickdelong4 жыл бұрын
I have listened to this interview ten times in the past five days... Thanks to Patrick for his courageous questioning.
@onskyk2 жыл бұрын
This is a extremely clear interview, probably one of the best I have seen. Listening to the questions and answers may make the dream of separation fall away. Great interview questions.
@sTeVe-vl3nh3 жыл бұрын
The reason why this is an excellent interview is because of the questions. Thanks for that.
@suegibson10245 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful! Jim is always clear as a bell. Thanks!
@mellowbirds47774 жыл бұрын
sue gibson Yes but that doesn’t mean there’s any honesty to him or what he says.
@johnmc38623 жыл бұрын
Jim contradicts himself sometimes for sure. He briefly tells about his past and says there’s no story.
@oshnekski3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmc3862 When someone asks a question about the apparent Jim character, there is no way to answer without going into story. Wherever there are thoughts and words, there is only story. It's all story. Of course there will be apparent contradictions. No story is true. But I've never heard anyone venture into this conceptual territory with as much clarity. Whether or not that is actually useful, is another question.
@John-ko8kr Жыл бұрын
@@mellowbirds4777 Exactly. Jim is a very clever man. With 30 answers to this hoax in his pocket traveling the world with, making big money. The spiritual industry is big bugs. And Jim gets this. When the questions are sharp, then always say 'there is no you' Or 'apparently'.
@manganese3332 жыл бұрын
Jim cracking up at 32:30 when he mentions “applied nonduality” is gold 😆❤️. Thank you for this wonderful interview!
@ChrisVayos5 жыл бұрын
I think that these interviews are even better than the meetings. Even cooler...
@ArtOfHealth4 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with you! The interviewer never got it. He is not playing. He is stumped. He knows too much. If he gets the message, he will be lying to others if he continues to share the never ending search agenda. The most unique aspect of an interview like this is that the natural frustration arises as the interviewer is unable to let go of everything he thinks he is because he thinks he is there when there is no him or me from his viewpoint. I have a library full of many years of gurus and religious material mental psychological therapies and stuff to include ancient philosophies. It all means absolutely nothing to me now. All that I held dear to me has been dismantled and released. I feel lighter so to speak. I know I am not here but I trust you understand the freedom I express. It is strange to tell people that there is no reason to keep searching for something bigger, better and deeper. Are you in Greece? See ya.🙂
@ChrisVayos3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtOfHealth Yes, I am in Greece. Even your comment is very 'helpful'. Thank you.🙂
@curiosity_saved_the_cat5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't get better than this!
@andrewforrest1085 жыл бұрын
Freedom speaking directly, simply, transparently and uncompromisingly...thank you.
@Vlatka2115 жыл бұрын
Listening to Jim gives me a picture of a roller coaster on an endless ride, it's such bliss, I am loving it..also it reminds me of Rosemary's baby, when she says...this is not a dream, this is really happening:)))))
@nickmoore51054 жыл бұрын
At the center of all this is a beautiful paradox, that of no-self experiencing self. That paradox generates all the other paradoxes and confusions and discussions. But the paradox itself is irreducible, an unsolvable axiom, spinning and shining and generating everything. It is elemental matter.
@MaddockAMERICANBULLDOGS4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me who feels peace and a deep inner silence when watching Jim's videos?
@FirstPersonHood3 жыл бұрын
Understanding the transparent fabricated persona can often relax the body.
@alfogel32985 жыл бұрын
Wonderful intellectual grasp of eternal Truth! Love is all, Al
@ckelley6232 жыл бұрын
Simplicity pisses people off❤
@cosmofox2 жыл бұрын
You mean sophistry.
@jeffreygeorge45375 жыл бұрын
Thank "you" and thanks to, "Jim". Great talk.
@borislanger71944 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interview!
@prashantkulkarni78355 жыл бұрын
Wonderful ! Jim is another softspoken u.g.
@whatsinaname23002 жыл бұрын
Yeah. U.G. slaughtered the upanishads
@birdwatching_u_back5 ай бұрын
I was just going to comment on U.G.! The interviewer reminds me of something U.G. would always say, that every question comes out of answers the person already has. So asking something like “is it wrong” is expecting a particular answer that just confirms their stories about how to find things, such as “well yes it’s wrong because there’s nothing to look for” or “well no because there’s neither right nor wrong.” But the idea that there doesn’t need to be a question at all, much less an answer-which is all Jim says, in a way-can’t be logically or philosophically transmitted.
@moneysensemap Жыл бұрын
great talk! From this video I at last realised what it means "there is only now"!!!!!! The illusion of time to appear or seems like we live in lenear from left to right direction or from bottom up. But there is just an appearence of everything, including aging, illnesses, etc. BOdy dies but you remain untouched buy all the theatre. So, we just might enjoy the ride. Really enjoyed it (me that is not even here, obviously)!🥰
@zentex8877 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your perceptive comment.
@TheEmersonlim4 жыл бұрын
This was amazing! Clarity pointing to nothing. Illuminating,
@bobnoordermeer46225 жыл бұрын
Top Patrick! Ik geef trainingen en leer superveel van jouw eerlijke vermogen om 'erbij' te blijven in de podcasts. Thanx en ga alsjeblieft door!
@evedotcom3 жыл бұрын
"I had the unfortunate calamitous experience of having an awakening when I was younger..." hahaha YEP. Oh, the hopeless spiritual seeker. Great chat, thanks :)
@jamil14185 жыл бұрын
great interview very clear and so obvious!!!
@Marphale2 жыл бұрын
Loved this interview!
@premranga27005 жыл бұрын
There is no doer of actions or reaper of consequences - Ashtavakra Gita
@ArtOfHealth4 жыл бұрын
The Search Is Over. Smile.
@babakrasolzadeh78542 жыл бұрын
Probably the second best interview with the duality form (illusion) that’s Jim :) The best one being the one with Alan Steinfeld
@masksoff7488 Жыл бұрын
Jim is brilliant!
@hgracern5 жыл бұрын
Love love that arrow sign! 😂 thanks, lovely interview.
@I_Am_Indeed_The_Free_1 Жыл бұрын
There is no place to go There is no thing to see There is no thing to feel There is no thing to be
@paulsagerman5111 Жыл бұрын
"Its a real experience" followed by " Its a dream, its not happening"
@hermansohier87925 жыл бұрын
The body dos'nt feel pain without conciousness,so the body dos'nt feel pain .
@dawid_dahl3 жыл бұрын
”Hope springs eternal!”
@dripdrops33103 жыл бұрын
One of the rare videos of him with good sound.
@eleojay4012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting🙂👍
@alanschriever7573 жыл бұрын
OMG Clean Sound on this one.
@iloverumi3 жыл бұрын
thanks. great talk.
@richardbelisle4807Ай бұрын
I sat with mooji in the early days…this is how he spoke…as time went on he began to speak of a method to understanding ….the since here is you can speak like jim nothing to hold on to …or exhaust the since of me by practice….both have there place
@margaretryan86943 жыл бұрын
100 percent this is where I am❤️
@ozgursenturk11-11 Жыл бұрын
"What needs to happen for this to be what it is?" Nothing! It's already😎🙏
@integralsun6 ай бұрын
Explaining the psychosomatic tension in the body is a terribly useful point.
@zachburnett24336 ай бұрын
I know that I am aware. I know that something exists rather than nothing. As far as I know I had nothing to do with with all of this amazing diversity of something.
@angelmoon8114 Жыл бұрын
Jim Newman “ There isn’t a me!” 🤩😂pretty clear 💥
@patrickparizot65563 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you !
@michaellicht8854 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that ❤❤
@yoye92544 жыл бұрын
#1 The Sanskrit phrase Maya does not mean suffering. It points to ILLUSION. #2 Jim’s message is beautiful and the teaching can be effective without the putting down of other non-duality teachers which seem to arise in his talks. When one is not familiar with the entirety of a teaching one can say I don’t know instead of assuming. Eckhart Tolle (in this video); Rupert Spira; Mooji; Adyashanti and even Nisargadatha have all been subtly put down in Jim’s talks (other videos). Since there’s No separation and No persons, why would Jim refer to other teachers/people as “THEY” who are looking to REALIZE something... Some of the participants at Jim’s talks/meetings trying to describe other messages do not fully understand the teachings and Jim does not have a full spectrum of these messages/teachers either, so it’s easier to take them out of context. Yes Nisargadatha started with I Am, however the depth of his teachings point to the DISAPPEARANCE of I AM! Although Jim’s method is to deny the illusion continuously, he nevertheless talks about the contraction of energy in the BODY that Is the EGO but denies other teachers the validity of saying anything about the dream. Repeatedly he says Tony Parsons is great but relegates other non-duality teachers thereby subtly creating more judgment and separation. Many teachers rely partially on words to teach and Jim’s words are not more or less superior than Nisargadatha, or Eckhart Tolle or Rupert Spira, etc. This is almost impossible to talk about, words are just words - abstract. The unconditional love that inspires Jim’s message is the same unconditional love that inspires Eckhart Tolle to meet “people” where they are in the dream. Diversity cannot be excluded from absolute freedom. In the end, “The Absolute transcends both knowing and no knowing” - Nisargadatha Maharaj.
@ArtOfHealth4 жыл бұрын
Yoye May I just say this. I believe that Jim does not care to discuss other teachers because he has a different slant. He does not want to tell anyone how it is. Letting go of what we think about what we know is a very difficult process. Especially if we spent $300,000 in education to learn stuff. We take ownership of what we think we know which came from other observers, writers or speakers. We get territorial about the stuff we have acquired in our minds. Theology is not argument of facts. It is a disputation of ideas which will never end. Jim has a fresh and simple approach. He is not in competition with anyone. He has a different way of seeing this. Maybe you are ready to share this with people in your area. I know I have been trying here and there and it’s fun for me. When someone gets a piece of it, they grin. Their eyes sparkle. That heals the horror of getting the message. I appreciate you putting a piece of your heart out🙂.
@Gaurigs Жыл бұрын
Well said. This guy and Parsons also have a certain smugness to them. Just answer the questions like a normal person without the superiority trip.
@carlasimmons554610 ай бұрын
This message is different from teachers and teachings.
@Gaurigs10 ай бұрын
@@carlasimmons5546 How so-the truth is the truth. He needs to get his ego out of the way. Another slightly realized person and there are plenty of them.
@j0oi883 ай бұрын
The last bit you quoted is intriguing. Reminds me of a theme in the Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch.
@CL-he4jz2 жыл бұрын
keep coming back to this blissful and terrifying message : ))))) and the science of the first person ( non person)
@Alex-jm6fk4 жыл бұрын
The thing about neo-advaita vs traditional advaita is that not everyone easily gets direct clarity or can take the direct path. So for some it may be better to practice the way outlined in the Upanishads and traditional teachings in order to gain clarity.
@serafimsousa53834 жыл бұрын
Search for Rupert Spira.
@zochert574 жыл бұрын
Who needs clarity? It’s not a mental exercise.
@FirstPersonHood4 жыл бұрын
The Absolute, or Reality, is regarded as having for sentient beings two aspects. The only aspect perceptible to the unenlightened is the one in which individual phenomena have a separate though purely transitory existence within the limits of space-time. The other aspect is spaceless and timeless; moreover all opposites, all distinctions and 'entities' of every kind, are here seen to be One. Yet neither is this second aspect, alone, the highest fruit of Enlightenment, as many contemplatives suppose; it is only when both aspects are perceived and reconciled that the beholder may be regarded as truly Enlightened. Yet, from that moment, he ceases to be the beholder, for he is conscious of no division between beholding and beheld. This leads to further paradoxes, unless the use of words is abandoned altogether. John Blofeld (in his Translator's Introduction to Huang Po).
@ph8sl9fu3j Жыл бұрын
Can please explain Jim comment about this meeting at 21:30
@timyang58985 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous!
@christopherramsey2164 жыл бұрын
What this discussion could benefit from is an accessible explanation. To state that what is happening is boundless is to say that there is no inherent meaning, motive, or rules that govern existence and expansion of what is. It is free to BE whatever emerges and what emerges is THIS. It is not bound by morals, laws, emotion, or intention. All that exists is perfectly expressive and is obligated to nothing. Furthermore it does not answer to the limited capacity of human beings.
@christopherramsey2164 жыл бұрын
Furthermore, the universe has manifested as human being with capacity to engineer an elaborate game with rules of engagement. One who arrives at this tate of being expressed by the interviewee comprehends this game. That is the premise behind the term "illusion".
@guitpizz3 жыл бұрын
Jim always travel for free on any airplanes. There is nobody in the seat and nobody on his ID card. The good news is that the airline saves a meal every time as there is nobody to feed. It is a win-win... but not really as there is nobody who wins on Jim's side.
@uwearschloch42182 жыл бұрын
So its just a win-?
@Sethan7772 жыл бұрын
The Meatbag eats and digest's. Not *you* ;-)
@nareshveeran85142 жыл бұрын
That is funny at so many levels
@lambolim21782 жыл бұрын
Apparently there is a body to feed lols
@charlesderrick096.g Жыл бұрын
If one wants to think that the meatbag eats it's because the meatbag thought it was born. The meatbag thinks it's eating unless it chooses to see that the eating is an illusion and upon noticing the illusion the meatbag has noticed the all seeing "I" within that does not eat🤗 dwell there eternal now💕
@granitfog2 жыл бұрын
There is a phenomenon of personhood FORMATION - the object of "the person experiencing reality" with values, wants, likes, and dislikes etc. This is constantly reinforced (just like repeating the lines of a poem to keep remembering it), by giving into those wants and likes and dislikes etc. And there is the phenomenon of personhood IDENTIFICATION - the linkage of that personhood with the self - a lot like the identification of a reader with a character in a book. It is possible, through meditation, to stop the identification - to feel the personhood but not identifying with it. This is like having a shadow nearby that is full of emotions, likes and dislikes but not "me" You can look at it or ignore it and still relate to reality. This is like depersonalization but unlike the disorder which is uncontrolled and anxiety provoking, it is calming and controllable. It is also possible to stop the reinforcement of the personhood so that it eventually is gone - there is sense of a person, no shadow of a person, "no person is present" It seems to me that Mr Newman has developed the last phenomenon. IMHO either state is of value, since perception and action are not influenced by ego, which causes suffering for the self and others. It is not a question of being more or less enlightened, just differently enlightened.
@radientbeing11 ай бұрын
My big bang experience was outside of space-time in no-where, no-when.
@nothingiseverything-dasmys69925 жыл бұрын
GREAT!!!!
@frankcwte4 жыл бұрын
Rareness is quite ordinary
@shlomobachar41233 жыл бұрын
All of the videos of Jim (on KZbin) cannot be commented (turned off). And all of his talks resume as "there is nothing", "nothing happens", "there is nothing to do", etc. So I cannot understand how he has an audience?
@jesuisravi2 жыл бұрын
Good subject for an interview. Very clear speaker. Here is a suggestion: You have done a lot of interviews of neo-advaitins (Tony Parsons et al); it would be interesting to hear someone from the more traditional advaita school, and I suggest Swami Sarvapriyananda of the New York Vedanta Society. He also talks about a shift that happens suddenly. He is an excellent speaker and is open to other approaches and also very conversant with online interviewing technologies, Skype, Zoom, etc.
@kakhabertukhashvili93672 жыл бұрын
He's absolutely sure of his insanity!
@paulvallins48055 жыл бұрын
Holy 💩
@barbarahemming38414 жыл бұрын
Yup! Every thing is holy!
@bentleyjames4617 Жыл бұрын
My only question is if the me is no longer there then how would what ever is there know anything is happening
@sergiohernandesarrraez43910 ай бұрын
Tradução não está funcionando.
@gajaiagnesmagnes22242 жыл бұрын
Thanks for no one. Thanks.
@TheChrissLV Жыл бұрын
OP, after watching full interview, I have to ask - did "you" get the message? Or did the message got "you"?
@NonDualiteit Жыл бұрын
Ofcourse, it always gets ‘me’ 😀
@micafreedom34132 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was so funny and good. Patrik nobody good job!!😀🥰💛
@zoi20835 жыл бұрын
Jim ist der beste! Es ist einfach so😃
@katherinekhan68922 жыл бұрын
Not a lottery because nobody wins. Love it!
@robertjsmith5 жыл бұрын
you realise there is no inherent self when you realise there is no inherent self to realise it
@andrzejsati38614 жыл бұрын
Marvelous!
@teaomaramarobinson41572 жыл бұрын
wow!
@cosmofox2 жыл бұрын
That's nonsense of the highest order.
@robertjsmith2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmofox yes even free will is an illusion
@cosmofox2 жыл бұрын
@@robertjsmith I bow down to your parroted bullsht beliefs.
@lifesmeaningistobehappy72012 жыл бұрын
I think I understand two moments, what is and isn’t( not a paradox, yes
@tier1tribe3373 жыл бұрын
I do not think that i can handle that in my experiencing
@bwade794 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know or have a link to the video they were discussing about him referencing Mooji?
@ketchup53442 жыл бұрын
Likeable chap
@theoell20493 жыл бұрын
If Jims wife describe him before the ego collapsing, that would be interesting
@leidabos3740 Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@oldkidsjonge Жыл бұрын
one of the few straight ones imo
@karelhoogendoorn2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@chroniclesoftheunborn-nond1341 Жыл бұрын
Simply this. Nothing to do, nothing to understand.
@maryberry60675 жыл бұрын
How could anybody be amazing. When there is nobody hummm?
@Glenn7054 жыл бұрын
Being amazing happens for no one.
@italogiardina81832 ай бұрын
Individualism as a construct that emerged through industrial capitalism is around 300 years old as an ideology and to that end humans adapt to the end of the individual as emergent forms of capitalism sublimate earlier forms of individualism. What seems to occur within the non-dualism discourse is a form of simulated individualism that instantiates copies through virtual forms to the point that the singularity in the form of artificial general intelligence approaches is just mind stuff in general and so functions as a central cultural repository of data that can be harvested by persons who ostensibly appear as individual who are an instance of open consciousness, or if closed, then zombie or person absent of qualitative states of consciousness.
@sanekabc2 жыл бұрын
I suspect few egos die from listening to this. Probably as few as from any other teaching. LOL.
@particleconfig.89353 жыл бұрын
Is this a meeting, or is nobody there?
@particleconfig.89353 жыл бұрын
Now all of a sudde there IS a crowd... Arrhh !
@birdwatching_u_back Жыл бұрын
40:05 nice distinction
@markkeogh21902 жыл бұрын
Nothing is another idea. Nobody is another idea.
@markkeogh21902 жыл бұрын
@stabilobowski clever. My statement has a context though. That is to point out the dogma of ‚nobody‘. It is inevitably an ideological stance. You just can’t avoid that happening.
@markkeogh21902 жыл бұрын
@stabilobowski it’s interesting that the mind will use this wprd game to support its thesis (I am nothing ) but when challenged will disparage the same word game.
@markkeogh21902 жыл бұрын
@stabilobowski I find it personally a very dull scene. All this jargon and there is something dead about it. I can’t put my finger on it but it seems like some teachers and practitioners have made an identity of this ‚nothing ‚ business and walk around with this heavy weight on them. But it’s supposed to be nothing. ! Surely that should be lighter. Seems all a bit angsty and heady to me. But obvs some people must be getting something out of it because it’s all the rage.
@markkeogh21902 жыл бұрын
@stabilobowski Good points well made.
@gregoryswanepoel63287 ай бұрын
pity about the sound
@huubdrums6 ай бұрын
Pity about your attitude 😢
@richardbelisle76262 жыл бұрын
The green no me movment
@bentleyjames4617 Жыл бұрын
My second question is why talk about what is not real if there is nothing to gain or nothing to prove or nothing to be on nothing to see
@paulmetdebbie4474 жыл бұрын
This is about the man who thinks he is in a desert running towards a pool of water, when on jumping in it discovering that not only the pool, but he as well is a fata morgana and both turn into the sand they always were.
@AlexEnergyHealing5 жыл бұрын
it's so funny how the person always wants something for its own temporary satisfaction not even knowing how annoying they become in the process. Like an addict not getting any fixing. I don't know how Jim stays so calm :) I guess after so many talks he is used to it. He is like, even before sitting down: got no fuckin' stuff for you, apparently you can go and get it from somewhere else.
@jimrich41924 жыл бұрын
There already are many, many teachers, saviors and coaches to give a seeker "stuff" to fill up their needy ego/separate self.
@nickmoore51054 жыл бұрын
I love all Jim's stuff. He basically always starts with: "There is only what is. This is what you thought you were seeking. And btw there is no you." And then spends the next hour repeating the same simple message again and again because whoever heard it wants to make a narrative and a story out of it when there isn't one.
@oerantia9126 Жыл бұрын
If this is neo-advaita, what it lacks is the message “one/all is deathless”. Neo-advaita gives the impression it focuses only on certain aspects of other spiritual nondual teachings. In my own words (and based on my own indescribable experience) “we are reality, totally uncaused (unborn), timeless, even space is not necessary, deathless, without a true purpose because everything of importance has already been achieved timelessly (eternity) ago.”. From that insight comes the derivative “expresssions” of neo advaita teachers - is my guess - that what appears is merely a happening. While that may be “true”, they don’t offer a really liberating message, is simply my impression from this interview. But, listening to a message like this could be helpful to some people. It is indeed all just part of a show, this interview or what all the other teachers have said. So there is a lot of overlap with Advaita vedanta, but it is explicitly lacking the message (or an equal message) of “you/we are all reality”. Go the very fact or the experience (if you prefer that word) that “I exist”. See its emptiness, stay there, remind yourself of that until you one day merge with Reality. That is one of the infinite ways to reach enlightenment, it is another (mere) description of a path or a practice that is really no path or practice. Peace (in silence) (is another way) 😊
@yahamark5 жыл бұрын
Like 👍🏻
@busheybushdawg4 жыл бұрын
Hey man what's happening?
@ArtOfHealth4 жыл бұрын
busheybushdawg This!😉
@johnmc38623 жыл бұрын
@@ArtOfHealth Simply this!
@Mika-El-3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@marksmith2298 Жыл бұрын
The second you try to explain what it is, it’s exactly what it isn’t 🤷♂️
@integralsun Жыл бұрын
Knock, knock. Who’s there? Nobody. Nobody who? Nobody-no mind. WTF! Who’s there? Nobody-no mind-nothing-is-happening. Is that you, Jim? Jim's not here. Knock it off.
@AdrianaHernandez1083 ай бұрын
Maya menas ILLUSION….
@twoline29243 жыл бұрын
49:55
@theoell20493 жыл бұрын
I m wondering why European and American non duality teachers seems not to know or say anything about mysticism? Do have to be born in India to touch mysticism? :)
@bradywilson35602 жыл бұрын
The trick is getting past you don't exist as an individual, all these other questions on non dual are instantly answered once you get that. No I have not had the veil fall away. Just my intuition.