Jim's Forceflow Fan! Does it Really work?

This Video just shows/describes the results of my testing of Jim's Forceflow fan in a record heat wave here in the Pacific Northwest. I installed this fan on my 2020 Harley Davidson Tri Glide. Footage is Actual Head temperatures and ambient temperatures as shown by the ECM. Footage is shown at 102+ degrees ambient temperatures.

[@erico6247]

Thanks for taking the time to do a review!

[@windsurfed1]

You’re welcome, I enjoy doing that sort of thing. It takes a while though. But in the end it’s rewarding.

[@jafeliciano5276]

Thanks for your review. I have been thinking about getting one of those for my Street Glide and your video was very helpful.

[@windsurfed1]

Glad you could use the information in the video. mine is still working great. I ride in the city a lot and was riding again this last weekend really Hot weather. The fan worked fantastic as usual.

[@r.j.devaney780]

Very interesting...thanks for detailed comparisons. Somehow, you need to stay cool 😎..looking forward to your next video. Rich

[@windsurfed1]

Yes fortunately those gauges I have show details. I am working on another video to be out soon on Harley Davidson‘s cool flow fan.

[@r.j.devaney780]

@@windsurfed1 you are amazing!!

[@RobertB56]

Hi from Perth Western Australia,I have fitted the Love Jugs on my 2014 Fatboy Lo,we have a hot climate here and in my opinion fitting these fans is a must,the Love Jugs are not attractive but I'm prepared to put up with that to save money on expensive mechanical repairs due to an overheating engine,I have also fitted an oil cooler and have noticed a good lowering in temperature when in traffic and highway riding,I can monitor the temp with my V&H FP3, expensive options to buy but worth it Twin Cams run really hot so these options keep a good temperature and I'm sure will extend the engine life,thanks for a good information video and verifying my results,I hadn't heard of the Jim's fans until I saw your video.I imagine a trike would run hotter than a two wheeler.

[@windsurfed1]

Robert, thanks for the reply. I had not heard of Jim’s fan until I bought my TG and was researching fans for my motorcycle. Between your fans and your oil cooler it sounds like it’s keeping the engine cool and you’re avoiding expensive engine work later on down the road.

[@biggbossman1130]

Great Video straight to the point....Thank you!!!

[@windsurfed1]

Thank you for the comment. It is still working well for me. Has cooled the engine well during hot weather.

[@5inchborespaceing]

Love the detail of the testing.

[@windsurfed1]

Took a long time to get the camera set up just right for that test, but it looks like it turned out good

[@scottdavis1212]

Disclaimer: I am not a mechanic. This is educational only. To bypass and remove the terribly implemented thermostat, remove the shrink wrap that isn't shrink wrapped from the thermostat portion. Cut the blue and red wires below the terminal points. Meaning you will cut two blue wires and one red wire. Once done, remove excess wire, solder the blue wires together, solder the red to the red wire that runs to the fuse block that is orange as well. Once done, you can use a plug or direct to battery. Direct to battery will run as long as fan switch is on, plug will do the same with the exception of when the ignition is turned off, the fan will go off too.

[@windsurfed1]

Wow, sounds like you know what you are talking about. You beat me to the punch.

[@windsurfed1]

Scott, I have or had a hard time following your comments on both of my videos. But apparently you got it figured out on how to bypass the thermostat. Good job! Sorry I cannot help. Now if anybody ask me that question again I’ll just use your comment. Thanks for the education.

[@scottdavis1212]

@@windsurfed1 the thermostat is junk and the implementation is comical. Definitely NOT worth the money, honestly. But I have some Love Juggs, wished I'd never bought them either after finding out some history about their smaller fans. Maybe I'll just invent something on my own, it won't be the first thing I have invented. The motor on this force flow honestly looks like a drill motor. I've built R/C cars in the past, this motor resembles a motor I used on a R/C car, it was like a 540/550. I think that's why there's only a rinky 6 month warranty and the thermostat. The motor is not going to hold up to running alot, with that heat. Patented drill motor with some aluminum molding and a rinky horn .

[@windsurfed1]

@@scottdavis1212 Well, I hate to say this, but I believe you are right on everything you said. I suspect the fan motor probably will not last if used constantly. I just use it in extreme hot weather in town when riding. Probably, like you said you can invent your own fan. And yes the horn is rinky-dink. One good aspect about it it looks nice and natural on the bike, IMO. I suppose if this fan ever goes out I will seek an alternative fan to mount in there.

[@scottdavis1212]

@@windsurfed1 I'm already hunting one. I will probably replace it with one of those motors I mentioned. I just need to get some specs on this motor, mainly RPM, shaft size, and whether I can reuse the fan blade (vac blower fan blades) or if I will need to make some of my own. I'll end up taking what they started and actually making something worth having, sadly a great deal of money for that fancy alum case.

[@HDHogFarmer]

Thanks for another video, always informative. I noticed you had both Harley's Coolflow fan and Jim's Forceflow fan installed on your Trike. Do you use both fans? Which one would you recommend? Any other advise would be helpful on these fans. Thanks again!

[@windsurfed1]

I believe that Jim’s force flow fan is more effective than Harleys cool flow fan. If I had to choose between one or the other, I would get Jim’s force flow fan. The cool flow fan works excellent for pulling the heat to the back of the engine and deflecting it onto the calvilitic converter, which is extremely hot for both passenger and driver on very hot days. Enough to where you would want to move your leg off the footboard to get away from the heat which we have done before. I installed both of them, the Jim force, flow fan, and the Harley Davidson cool flow fan. I had the extra money so I went ahead and did it and now we can keep our feet on the right footboard without getting extremely hot. I had some heat shields that we strapped around our legs before getting the Harley Davidson cool flow fan and that worked good also. But as you know it is very expensive. I don’t know how the heat on the leg would be if you just installed the gyms force flow fan. Maybe it would be good enough to reduce the heat on your leg.

[@HDHogFarmer]

@@windsurfed1 Thanks for the reply and looking forward to your next video.

[@erisgh0sted961]

220°f - 250°f on the high side. At 270ish, oil lubricity breaks down, and you're subjecting the engine to excessive wear. I definitely wouldn't push it beyond the 310°f range. That's being really hard on it.

[@windsurfed1]

You could be right. I’ve read a lot on engine wear and oil. There are a lot of opinions out there. One thing I do know is that at 350° your metal in your engine starts to break down and where. My oil temperature since I have on the bike has not been past 180°. The cylinder head temperature has hit 300 on extremely hot days on the freeway, in town. It stays way cooler.

[@shep68]

That high pitch whine is a deal breaker. Maybe cool the engine a little or for sure end up with tinnitus. Thanks for the review.

[@ronhamilton515]

I have the Harley cool flow fan , which sounds similar and you can’t hear it once your under way so no problem

[@carlosdasilva8622]

It’s so hot that he even put fans on those convertible sandals

[@windsurfed1]

Right. It was a pretty hot year.

[@franktirado8357]

Nice job with the review on Jim’s fan. Those M8 run very hot, along with some mechanical issues that HD haven’t addressed. I’m in Florida, so in addition to the oil cooler and fan is a must.

[@windsurfed1]

Frank, glad you could use some of that information. I know Florida gets much hotter and humid.

[@tomm9493]

@@windsurfed1 Jim, I've been here in the Tampa Bay, FL area for 21 years now. It has never been over I'd say 96/97 degrees. Humid, YES. But, 104.....NO! Nice video, thanks.

[@windsurfed1]

@@tomm9493 that temperature was extremely rare. I’ve lived here 28 years and very seldom does it get over 98 degrees. We just had a summer of heatwave.

[@bradwilliams4921]

Thanks for the review.

[@windsurfed1]

Glad you found it. Mine still works really well. I am very happy with it. I rode a lot early in the season but I haven’t ridden very much in the past month or so but I’m glad I put this unit on.

[@tombstone2826]

Take off the faring's more air flow ! You have oil cooler ? with fan ? Good review dude !

[@windsurfed1]

I don't have an oil cooler with a fan. I'm pretty satisified with the temperature of the engine with all the extra cooling features I have On it now. I suppose by putting a oil cooler with a fan would even bring the temperature down more! Good Idea!

[@kfacpa]

Me too... just installed one on my 128ci M8... beefed up performance = engines running a bit hotter... why take the chance! Great vid - thanks!

[@windsurfed1]

Glad you could use the information in the video. So far I just use mine during city traffic. As you can see it works really good though.

[@tortelvis1]

Thanks for the video! Do you use conventional oil or synthetic oil?

[@windsurfed1]

Synthetic oil as specified by factory.

[@lio1999]

Good review, how is fan after 1 year? Is it still working with no issues?

[@steve2515]

Thanks for this video. Question: was the EITMS system engaged (turned on) during these tests? If so, given the ambient temperature, it would have activated at each stop light . . . correct? If it did not activate, why not? (It's my understanding factory sets it to activate around 80 F ambient temp. I'd be very interested to know what difference EITMS has with engine and head temps.)

[@windsurfed1]

The EITMS system was turned on correct. From my many times using this motorcycle in high temperatures Without Jim’s force flow fan being used, the eitms system at stoplights would bring the temperature down. The maximum I’ve seen the EITMS system bring the temperature down is 7°. That is when I sat at a stoplight for one minute and 40 seconds in 103° weather. Yes and that’s what I’ve been told the E I T MS system activates at 80° outside temperature

[@steve2515]

@@windsurfed1 Thank you sir. . great info!

[@renegadegreg6428]

Normal temperature is published in you manual. Says normal operating temperature is 230 F

[@windsurfed1]

I will look, is that engine temperature or head temperature?

[@wtf0101]

That should be oil temperature

[@windsurfed1]

@@wtf0101 ok Thanks

[@TheHighestGodisGood]

@@windsurfed1 230F engine temp is operating temp. I find my head temp is 30F hotter. So, when my gage reads 260, I'm at 230 engine operating temp.

[@windsurfed1]

@@TheHighestGodisGood How did you come to the conclusion that you found your gage reads 260 and actual head temp was 230?

[@bm7760]

Interesting. My 2010 Ultra has weeping rocker gaskets as theyre prone to breaking down with the heat. I'm about to replace them but would like to prevent it happening again. Not convinced the fan is the way to go. Might look at more effective oil cooling. Thanks for taking the time to put that together.

[@windsurfed1]

Thanks for the comment. I know that the Harley Davidson, cool flow fan is truly good for the passenger and the driver. Not sure how much it does for cooling the engine, but I imagine it is creating a flow of air away from the engine. Jim’s force flow fan is definitely, in my book working very well. But the price is very high. The cooling wind deflectors from DK customs helps well also, and is very good in reducing helmet Buffetting. I thought about the oil cooling scenario, but I have not done it and probably will not because of the things I have now do a very good job keeping the engine cool however, it did cost a lot of dollars. If you are going to keep your motorcycle for the long run, it would be worth it but if you’re not going to keep it very long, I don’t think I would dump so much money into it.

[@maicolx7776]

But does it cool the oil too much and the bike thinks it needs to enrich the mixture??

[@windsurfed1]

@@maicolx7776 only a rocket scientist would know that answer. But I see what you’re saying, but I think the engine reaches a certain high temperature and the enriching the fuel more, is a limited solution at the time. I’m not a real fan of oil coolers. I have those Dakota digital gauges in my oil has never went past 180°, which I think is low temperature.

[@scottwheaton9689]

@@maicolx7776I reduced oil temp on my stock 09 flhtcu by 50deg f by installing Xied adjustable resistors in line with 02srnsors & ecm. Doing that allows you to richen up the excessive lean factory fuel mixture at idle & at cruise collectively cooling the motor a bit. I also installed a lrg oil cooler with twin thermostatically controlled Elec cooling fans along with love jugs dual miteymight Elec cooling fans that attach to fan mount on left side of the bike. Doing all the above resulted in the following improvements. REDUCED OIL TEMP 50 DEG MOTOR STPPED DETONATING OM PREMIUM FUEL MOTOR RETAINED ALL THE PWR AND TRQ IT USED TO LOOSE PRIOR TO INSTALLING ALL 3 COOLING MODS Oil PRESSURE AT IDLE & CRUISE NOW STAYED 6-8psi HIGHER THEN BEFORE COOLING MODS. THE LIFTERS & VALVES NIOW STAY QUIET VS TICKING BEFORE COOLING MODS. MOTOR STARTED MUCH EASIER/FASTER POST FUELING UP ON HOT DAYS BECAUSE BATTERY & STARTER WERE NO LONGER OVERHEATED LESS ENGINE HEAT MEANT TODERS WERE MORE COMFORTABLE IN HOT TEMPS TOO. LASTLY ALL THE SEALS,GASKETS,PLASTIC PARTS & SENSORS WILL LAST LONGER NOT BEING EXPOSED TO EXCESSIVE HEAT ANYMORE.

[@dhoov4452]

Ok that is a strong argument for Jims force flow fan. I also noticed there is another fan located behind the rear jug of the motor. Did you install that or did it come with your Tri Glide? Also did that rear jug fan operate during the test runs with the Jims fan? I'm asking because i am considering installing one of or both of those fans on my 2020 FLHTK

[@windsurfed1]

That fan located behind the rear jug is a Harley Davidson brand, “cool flow fan“. And yes it was on during the test as you can see when I first start out, on the left instrument panel it goes from, fan auto, fan off, fan on. That is the indicator for the cool flow fan. And I did not install it myself but I had the shop do it. But now, looking back, I could’ve done it myself, it’s pretty simple. I think they cost around $300. if I could only install one fan I would, #1, Jim’s force flow fan, then followed by the cool flow fan, from Harley Davidson. The cool flow fan dissipates the heat from the back of the real cylinder and blows it onto The catalytic converter and keeps the heat away from your leg as a driver and the passengers leg. I believe it contributes a lot to heat dispensation from the cylinders also. But probably not as much as Jim’s force flow fan. It is wonderful to have them both working in combination to keep your cylinders cooler.

[@ncautolink]

Great information! Thanks

[@windsurfed1]

Glad you could use some of the information. Thanks for watching.

[@Heavy69Metal]

I have a 2018 RGS 107 now I have a 131 in it. I get @same Engine temps @320-330 according to power vision reading. I have the love jugs mighty-mites and really some see a difference helping. My ride has after market exhaust and air cleaner. That’s it.

[@windsurfed1]

That seems a little hot, but apparently not. Sounds like the love jugs work well for you. Anything that helps is welcome.

[@arbez7k]

The fan seems rather loud. I hear it over the bike. What size engine do you have? I have a 2013 Tri-Glide with a 103 and thinking of getting this fan. I'm curious as to the price of it. How loud is the horn over stock?

[@windsurfed1]

The fan is loud. The horn is rather quiet, about 1/2 the loudness of the OEM horn. The fan costs around $500. I have the 114 Milwaukee 8. All said, it works very well.

[@arbez7k]

@windsurfed1 My OEM horn is trash. It barely squeaks. My bike however is very loud. So it is possible that I won't hear the fan if I was to get it. Thanks for the input, I'll look into this item. We reach temps of 115+ here in SJV of Central CA and and this summer was brutal on my left leg.

[@billflixtone6684]

Thanks for a good, detailed review. How is the replacement horn compared to the original?

[@windsurfed1]

The horn is extremely not loud. At 60 miles an hour I have to listen for it to make sure it works. In other words, it’s pretty weak.

[@windsurfed1]

They did say in the instructions you could re-locate the OEM horn somewhere and used the harness wires to connect it. Which I thought about After I heard the jim’s forceflow Fan horn. But I gave up on the idea and just am living with the Jim’s force flow fan horn.

[@RickMidds]

The engine temperature is hidden in the section of my 2012 Softail HD Service Manual page 3-15 “Oil Pressure” section and states, “Normal Operating Temperature” at 230* F. I would check the manual that goes for your bike in that section for the factory specs on the proper temperature for your bike. 😉

[@windsurfed1]

I will check that section. I know you know that there is 2 temperatures. 1 is the engine temperature and the other is the cylinder head temperature. What you stated about the engine temperature sounds about right. My oil temperature has never exceeded 190 degrees. I know the cyclinder head temperature should never exceed 350 degrees. That is when the medals start to deteriated/break down. Anyway, that's what I read on the internet if that is believable!

[@RickMidds]

@@windsurfed1 Yes that is just referring to oil temp. On my twin cam the head temp will easily go past 250 on an 80* day if I don’t turn on the Love Jugs fans. I just got the 1” tank lift and the coil relocation kit from DK Customs today. Hopefully that will help lower the head temps a bit.

[@windsurfed1]

@@RickMidds oh, that will be an interesting install. Let me know if it does or how much it does cool the head temperature down.

[@mansolo1756]

Great vid!

[@windsurfed1]

Your welcome. Hope it helps you.

[@jpbsv]

Sandwich an oil cooler between the fans and you'll see incredible cooling. Avery air cooled motor has 70% of its heat removed by the oil, not the cooling fins.

[@windsurfed1]

Well, that is an interesting new bit of information. Thanks for sharing it. I did not know that.

[@bob5817]

Awesome video thank you

[@windsurfed1]

I enjoy making these videos glad you could glean something from it.

[@cliffhogan9723]

❤

[@paulperrello1356]

excellent video... Thx

[@windsurfed1]

Glad you watched it. Hope you could use some of the information in there. I am thoroughly comfortable now with all those accessories. Probably too many. Cost a lot of dollars never get my moneys worth back out of it when I sell it. But oh well, I will enjoy it till it last.

[@windsurfed1]

The fan works great to keep the engine cooler. I’m glad I bought it

[@jamesfrost7465]

Good video, well done. thank you.

[@windsurfed1]

Thanks for watching. Hope you got a little bit of information out of it.

[@jamesfrost7465]

@@windsurfed1 I did Sir, I didnt know this fan existed. Years ago I had a brand new 1979 Superglide and the rear cylinder would get so hot it would start predetonating. BANG BANG BANG out of the rear cylinder. I had to pull over and shut her off.... shutting off a aircooled engine so it can cool down.... I sold that Harley in 1992, havent riden one since.... this past February. Now I own two! I have a beautiful used Electra glide and I dont want the old problem to come back. I'll add a bigger oil cooler. I see there is a oil cooler fan!? It's the rear cylinder that's the problem with a V-twin design. It's a design flaw, the rear cylinder will never run as cool as the forward. It's the rear cylinder temp that has my full attention. Thank you again Sir.

[@windsurfed1]

@@jamesfrost7465 Before I put Jim’s force flow fan on and the Harley Davidson brand cooling fan by the Calvaliertic converter,my leg Would burn also. Now I do not have to worry about that heat because of those two fans. But it did cost me an arm and a leg to buy those two fans and have them installed. I did install Jim’s force flow fan but the dealership installed the Harley Davidson cool flow fan

[@jamesfrost7465]

@@windsurfed1 I will ask my mechanic about this fan, I like it. Thank you again Sir.

[@ButterPawsKitty]

I think I may have to get one.

[@sandrahancockstevens4693]

Hi Chuck!!

[@windsurfed1]

Hey Sandra. Surprise to see you here!

[@allwrong3114]

Can you pass along some info about those small plastic wind deflectors next to the lower fairings that direct wind toward the engine? That's a brilliant idea. Thanks!

[@windsurfed1]

Those are actually metal they are called cooling deflector wings they are made by DK customs if you do an Internet search you should find ithem very easily I believe they cost around $50

[@allwrong3114]

@@windsurfed1 Thank you sir!

[@user-ob4nd6or1p]

I don’t know where your sensor is but you’re not reading cylinder head temp. Cylinder head temp runs hundreds of degrees higher than 250. My GoldWing ran 660* in normal operation. You’re probably reading your rocker box temp on the outside of the box. You need to be tracking oil temp, not trying to track cyl head temp. By the way your exhaust gas temp is likely 900* so whatever you think your reading - it’s NOT cyl head temp.

[@windsurfed1]

Zev; thanks for the reply. The cylinder head temperature sensor is in the very back cylinder in the front of the cylinder and if you go look at the parts breakdown on the Harley Davidson M8 engine that’s exactly where it’s at and it is the cylinder head temperature. I also have oil temperature sensor inc. into the drain oil plug. So it is reading the oil temperature. So I have two separate sensors, one for the rear cylinder, and one for the oil. And in my research I found out when your cylinder head temperature reaches around 380° the metals start breaking down and fatiguing and you are in the danger zone. You mentioned yours was 660° that’s enough to melt metal, that just don’t seem right to me. I don’t know much about the exhaust temperature. All I know is what I read off my gauges.

[@user-ob4nd6or1p]

@@windsurfed1 I’m an engineer. You are not reading head temps. Normal head temp are 600+, exhaust gases 900+. Your sensor is in the wrong location or faulty. Aluminum doesn’t melt until 1500 degrees. Steel much higher.

[@debbiemoorin1748]

Great video as always just wondering what happens to the stock horn when you install the cooling fan.

[@windsurfed1]

I just took the stock horn off and stored it away in my garage. I have heard of people re-positioning the stock horn on the bike somewhere and running extension wires to it, and using it instead of or in conjunction with the Horn that comes with Jim’s for flow fan. Jim’s force flow fan horn is not very loud at all you may be disappointed how not loud it is. I have never seen where anybody has repositioned the stock fan. I have only heard that some people have done that.

[@peterbergeris6510]

Install between front frame tubes

[@windsurfed1]

@@peterbergeris6510 Wow! I’ll have to look into that position.

[@user-ob4nd6or1p]

The Jim’s ForceFlow has an integrated horn inside of it. It replaces your stock horn.

[@Amosmoses-qu3ml]

What made you go with Jim's and not Love Jugs or other fans?

[@windsurfed1]

@@Amosmoses-qu3ml jim’s force flow fan looked rather natural and looked like it was part of the bike. as I felt the love jugs kind of looked funky. And just a note. The Horn, on the gyms force flow fan is rather weak. I’ve heard of other guys actually mounting another horn somewhere else because the gyms force flow fan was rather weak.

[@Amosmoses-qu3ml]

@windsurfed1 thank you, I have been thinking about the horn as well.

[@patrickpylant7881]

Where did e you get the small defectors in front of the tank. Many thanks for the help

[@windsurfed1]

I believe you are talking about the wing air deflector‘s. I got them from DK customs. Do a search on them and their website will come right up.

[@Sam-yg7pc]

on a hot day like that its better to leave the Harley at home , engine temp is the least of your worries, I fried two regulator rectifiers and one stator ,

[@windsurfed1]

I suppose your right on that one. The can get extremely hot.

[@melmel2644]

I just got a 2021 Triglide. How do I check the head temperature on a stock bike? Do I have to get a head sensing unit?

[@windsurfed1]

I’m not positive but I believe the 21s like the 20s have a head temperature sending unit on the rear cylinder towards the front. Although the technician can read it from his computer screen a guy like me and you have no idea what our head temperature actually is because there’s no gauge to tell us. The Dakota digital gauges that I have on my bike are able to exploit that head temperature sending unit and bring it to a digital Display in the instruments. HD for some reason just didn’t want to put that in their instrument cluster.

[@windsurfed1]

Before I got the digital gauges I just used a infrared thermometer to check the head temperatures which I was not impressed with at all but it functioned.

[@waltertodd4281]

Did the 1" tank lift and the deflector fins make any noticeable difference in air flow over the engine and increased cooling?

[@windsurfed1]

My opinion is “yes“. The 1 inch tank lift kit circulated the air better and the cooling wing deflectors pushing the air on to the engine. Also the cooling wing deflectors stopped buffeting my helmet tremendously. How much they cool the engine down I never did test it but I obviously felt the air circulating way better.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

What would the head temps be if you shut off the Jims Fan?

[@windsurfed1]

The hottest temperature I have ever seen the head was 307° on 100° day while I was driving 70 miles an hour down the freeway. That was without Jim’s force flow fan running.

[@tunerd1]

Great video... Where are you extracting for your gauge package? DLC port?

[@windsurfed1]

I’m no sure what you mean?

[@tunerd1]

@@windsurfed1 how are you retrieving the information for your digital gauges? From the onboard computer?

[@windsurfed1]

@@tunerd1 They are actually just plug and play. They plug into the same ports as the OEM instrument cluster. And I did not install them myself the Harley Davidson shop did it

[@windsurfed1]

@@tunerd1 so I would guess yes they are getting the information from the CPU.

[@tunerd1]

Thanks

[@rubberhead3520]

Where did you purchase the cool air deflector wings?

[@windsurfed1]

DK CUSTOM PRODUCTS. You can just do a Google search and you will find their website very good outfit

[@samcuratolo3885]

doesnt the heat just blow onto your right leg

[@windsurfed1]

Some configurations on motorcycles will blow a certain amount of hot air on to your leg. But the Triglide configuration blocks the air from blowing on your right leg.

[@peterbergeris6510]

That fan now is $657. Where did u buy for 357?

[@windsurfed1]

Got it off Amazon. I see they’re still on there for $425

[@enoch9372]

Hi, how is your fan holding up

[@windsurfed1]

So far so good no problems no issues. Just use it when it’s about 85° plus turn it on and off when I feel like it. I can see the temperature. Go down when it goes on. Glad I bought it. Rather expensive but I got it.

[@ut1004bp]

Do you have an oil cooler fan, and was it operating too?

[@windsurfed1]

No, I do not have an oil cooler of any sort. I see a lot of guys have them install on their bikes. But I don’t.

[@ut1004bp]

@@windsurfed1 oh boy, I think we found your next upgrade!.. The M8 touring bikes come with oil coolers, but no fan, so I have a fan on its way.. I'm also lifting my tank 2cm tonight..(making my own lift adaptor) but that's all I can without causing damage from my fairing.

[@windsurfed1]

Good job. I have a 1 inch tank lift kit myself I lifted the back of the tank one inch also to keep the tank level. My 2020 Triglide did not come with an oil cooler, it came with water cooled heads. I know some earlier Triglides came with oil coolers but not water cool.

[@CenobiteBeldar]

What would be the temps off and on if you did just highway riding?

[@windsurfed1]

I experimented a little bit with that. Normal highway speed at 70 miles an hour in the ambient temperature about 98°, the head temperature on the bike would run right about the 304° range. That would be with the fan off. With the fan on it ran about 289-290degrees. About a 14° difference.

[@CenobiteBeldar]

@@windsurfed1 nice, I’ve heard the Jim forceflow fan is like the only fan that works. You should try riding in the southwest during 110+ degree weather fans off and on and see how they fair.

[@windsurfed1]

@@CenobiteBeldar I chose the Jim’s force flow fan because it looks like a normal thing that should be on the side of the bike. but it does cool the bike down in a hot weather and extremely hot weather. I am pretty sure if I got another Harley Davidson I would install another one.

[@jamespolucha8790]

Any air flow across the motor would be good it’s an air cooled motor

[@windsurfed1]

Agreed

[@LilPaul-ow9me]

I hear the fan over the bike. Lol

[@windsurfed1]

I know what you’re saying. The fan is rather loud. That’s why I wanted it to come on and off when I wanted it to. I don’t use it very much but when I do, it’s welcome.

[@davidfellows6250]

should have opened your lower air vents as that how people would normally ride knowing they are on an air cooled bike

[@windsurfed1]

I thought about that. But for the experiment I decided to leave them colsed. I've had it explained to me both ways in that #1 way is: The hot air in those temperatures (105 degrees) Blowing on the engine makes the engine run hotter. Go Figure. The other is #2 way: Opening the vents cools the engine off only in lower temperatures. I have discovered, in my own experience,that in the hot temperatures, I prefer the lower vents close. I guess it comes down to personal preference there. I have experimented with the vents open/close to check the engine temperature and to my surprise the engine actually ran a few degrees cooler in the extreme hot temperatures..

[@davidfellows6250]

@@windsurfed1 closing the lower vents will make you feel cooler, one of them anyway. but leaving both open will cool the bike much better. watch this i know your a dk video fan and have bought some of the stuff they recommend. thats cool we all want more miles out of our bikes. but as a guy thats been ridding for near 50 years. I promise that blowing 100° AIR ON a 275° engine will cool it. I would watch another video you make if you used the fan and then just the vents the bike was born with. remember the guys at dk are selling the pats they talk about. back in the ay we made air catchers that at speed would blow air in between and behind the rear cylinder coupled with a good oil cooler i made shovels and pan , which were supposed to run way hotter than aluminum engines get well over 100k m on. cooling the oil and keeping the bike moving forward is the best medicine. do you have a fan excise oil cooler? that might help keep the bike cool where it counts. i dont caz i never sit in trafic and my bike runs pretty cool for a 103.

[@windsurfed1]

@@davidfellows6250 well it’s good to talk to someone who knows what they’re talking about. Sounds like you’ve been around and you know Harleys and engines. Your point of view sounds reasonable. I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks for the comment.

[@davidfellows6250]

@@windsurfed1 thank you good sir.

[@steverussell6642]

Is it really load?

[@windsurfed1]

I guess I’m not sure of the question?

[@steverussell6642]

@@windsurfed1 is the fan really loud when it's running

[@windsurfed1]

@@steverussell6642 yes the fan is noticeably heard when it is running. Probably medium loud. Definitely can hear it so if you ever walked away from it after shutting your bike off you would know it’s running for sure. However when you’re driving through town at 35 miles an hour you don’t even notice it. The slower speed you start approaching then you will be able to start hear it.

[@dki8]

Too much detail! Want more subscribers, get to the facts, quickly. Thanks for the info. These fans are ridiculously expensive. However, thank you for all the info. Tacoma Wa. 64 yrs old 2005 Fatboy Anniversary Edition.

[@windsurfed1]

Thanks for the comment. Right now I am in Maple Valley enjoying Christmas with my daughter. Heading back to Spokane after Christmas.

[@roadiemort3589]

Don't buy a HD, problem solved.

[@windsurfed1]

Good thought. I have never been a Harley Davidson fan before. But when I needed a trike in my old age Harley Davidson was the best solution for my situation. I fell over on my two wheeler and that started me thinking about a trike. Now after riding this Harley Davidson for about two years now I am starting to get engrossed in the Harley Davidson wave. They are pretty cool motorcycles And they start to grow on you. Never thought that would happen to me but it did. It has been said, “never say never “well, I guess I’m eating my words now.

[@TrustyZ900]

I have a new Z900, Z900RS, '22 DL650 Adventure and new SV650. Just bought a '23 Low Rider S with TBR exhaust. They're all a blast, but the big 117 is badass. Instant respect. I'l put up with the little problems. Love the beast.

[@darrenlingerfelt5879]

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