The Dark Web | I Don’t Know About That with Jim Jefferies #63

In this episode, the team discusses the dark web with lawyer, freelance journalist, and author of "Silk Road" and "The Darkest Web", Eileen Ormsby.
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[@AdamRBusby]

Kelly, Forrest and Grandpa Simpson talk about the interwebs....

[@dawleymatthew]

Forrest won me over. Calling Jim a grumpy old man was spot on.

[@Bass.sick.b1tch]

I was waiting for jim to throw his headset down and yell “stay off my lawn!”

[@BoldRam]

The Grumpy old man with jetlag episode. Jim's wife deserves a medal 😂

[@JK_Clark]

Poor guy. Went all the way to Oz to do a stand up tour and had a really terrible time.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Cuz it's so difficult extorting a wealthy man for money by bearing his children, what a tough job

[@JoseAndCode]

This episode went from a dark web episode to a morality check contest. The expert kept cutting out and Jim was taking things too seriously

[@lonelyone]

Yeah, not sure why Jim is so hung up about this. As if he's never used private browsing to view porn anonymously or something. I find his attitude very hypocritical given how open he usually is about drugs and everything. But suddenly he's a puritan who's fine about restricting everyone else's access.

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

Whoa whoa whoa, that's not what he said, not even remotely close. Disagree with him all you want, but this comment is silly

[@lameSHlT]

God I hope Forrest keeps this one on track before Jim buys a Filipino on Tor

[@duppyzenif1972]

🤣

[@krystaedwards3160]

Forest was so 😠. Rightfully so though. Contrarian Jim is no fun at all lmao

[@ethantilly6010]

Okay I love this podcast…. But Jim WTF was with you and your holier than thou attitude on this one? You’re not promoting the bad things that happen on the dark web to the public, you’re educating them. Your podcast is a comedic educational podcast and it’s amazing! I was really looking forward to being educated on this topic not because I cared to start doing bad things but I simply wanted to know how it worked. Bad people will find out how to do bad things, they don’t need your podcast to figure it out.

[@TheMagisterLudi]

Justine Joli was right about Jim after all

[@otakuman706]

Yeah, I had to take this episode out of my sleep rotation. His bullheaded arguing and almost ignoring everything said because he was set in his thoughts. Still some good stuff otherwise, but damn thats a rough bit to hear from JJ. Oh well ig 🤷‍♂️

[@victorialit]

I couldn’t agree more I love this post but why do a topic if you don’t wanna talk about the discussion Jeff I’m disappointed but will continue to watch

[@Grizzly_Biscuit]

I love Jimbo but I just don’t understand how he can admittedly know so little about something and yet continue to tell everyone else including an expert that they are wrong…

[@XandersGame42]

Jim going full boomer on this one.

[@WillBravoNotEvil]

Dude, that's not Boomer, that was vintage John Birch.

[@JAMES-my8bf]

Jim was born in 1977! He is GEN-X.. Not a BOOMER!

[@XandersGame42]

@@JAMES-my8bf it's not about specifically when you're born, it's about being a curmudgeon about modern things because they're different from the things you are used to or grew up with.

[@AxeMan808]

"I'm STILL HERE! I can still HEAR YOU!!" hahahahahaha! Good stuff M. Ormsby! Also, the proper statement, Forrest, is: "Jim, you're being a Forrest right now!"

[@valiantthor_]

Jim's come off very rude and disrespectful on this episode to the guest, Not like him from what I've seen before

[@janedoe186]

because he "doesn't like" the internet, being totally oblivious to the fact that he owns his international fame to the internet and that people are watching this very podcast on youtube. this episode was really aggravating...

[@valiantthor_]

@@janedoe186 Yeah I struggled to get through it all, I have a very ignorant cousin and he reminded me of him

[@jeskacollings3167]

Yep, he seemed to have a preconceived notion that dark web = bad, and all the facts and logic she used to explain why it is not that black and white, he just fobbed off so he could continue to keep his ignorant view of it intact. She was an amazing expert and completely changed my view of the dark web. Jim came across so bigoted and ignorant which was hard to watch. I usually agree with what he has to say. Definitely not this time

[@danielrose881]

Surprised no one brought up the fact that there's 59 countries around the world where Jim's atheist routines are illegal, 36 of which would likely imprison him and 13 where he'd likely be sentenced to death. Maybe his routines should be translated into those languages and posted to the dark web where people can hear these things without fear of death.

[@gasperle]

I'm the fan from Slovenia 🤩🤩🤩

[@jimmbohn580]

I agree that Jim was a bit off his game in this one, but I loved that his "people" didn't give an inch and called him on his bullshit. Much respect for that.

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

51:44 " *I'm still here!!!* " hahaha that was golden! Yeah Jim does come across (well,... IS) grumpy and opposed to talking about this topic but that's what made it funny for me. I get the frustration of the commenters below though because the podcast is for over an hour and it would be nice to have Jim open up his mind about this one. It's better to listen rather than shout over someone, but then when Kelly and Forrest raised their voices back at Jim, that's what made me laugh. The poor expert though when she had to listen to what sounded like a classroom full of 7-year-olds....

[@MichaelLasotaTW]

You'd imagine she'd have a better internet connection considering her profession.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Her ISP probably fucks with her on purpose

[@jjaronske6445]

2:51:00 "it is a FREE podcast"...."well, they gotta listen to the adds".... I'm 44 1/2 sir. Even I have learned to "fast forward". Love the show. Been a fan of JIM for almost 2 decades now. LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!!!! It will never work without the ENTIRE CREW. Let us know when you're around ATLANTA or BIRMINGHAM (we are 60 minutes from either)

[@humancannonball3827]

Literally an old man yelling at the cloud. Usually Jim’s rants are funny but this episode was difficult to watch.

[@merfymac]

100%

[@ChunksPlace]

Yeah he was really off the mark here. He sounded like my fucking dad haha

[@otakuman706]

Yeah, I love his stuff, but he really seemed to get stuck there. Re-listening while doing crap and it stood out enough I had to see what yt had to say 😆 I think if he actually understood it and wasn't quite so set against it from near the start, he would totally support it, given his other ideals and whatnot. Smh.... Oh well 🤷‍♂️

[@matwyder4187]

Never seen any episode of any show before with a more appropriate title. Finally it all clicked into place.

[@filipcao818]

Jim went full boomer on this episode 😂

[@robertbabcock1497]

Seriously, does no one get that the Dread Pirate Roberts is a reference to The Princess Bride cult classic movie?…

[@michaelkohlberg5072]

I do! I’m not left handed either!

[@crookedsouls]

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

[@CyrusFx]

@@michaelkohlberg5072 I am also not left-handed.

[@michaelkohlberg5072]

Inconceivable! You keep saying that.. I do not think it means what you you think it means

[@JuiceBoxScott]

This is so off the rails and I love it!

[@hagsymcduff1106]

Jack looks like Dave Grohl ordered off the dark web

[@richardgleason7740]

This lady seems icey cool. I want to hear more from her

[@gravelpit]

you got a fan in Slovakia too ! :)

[@gasperle]

Don't confuse them

[@Gilescowdemdem]

Jim pretty much tanked this whole episode. Was genuinely interested to learn more about the topic and Jim just turned it into an opportunity for him to moan about trolls.

[@valiantthor_]

Yeah it's the first episode I've seen where Jim's like this, Sounds like he's mad because he doesn't understand it

[@dashlamb9318]

Yea, he trolled trolls.

[@jacksonkeogh3320]

Jim had an episode on his TV show one time about how having more access to online resources helped sex workers be more safe...he was very against the law that prohibited access to these online resources. I feel like the dark web is very similar. Not sure why jim is so against this then

[@shannonrogue9676]

I've never used the dark web for finding out if producers are legit or ra**y I just message other girls in my game and we all know who's good and who's sketch. Granted something could be useful but most girls I know just use messaging services that are over the internet.

[@daftypunker4639]

he's publicly making a stance against it so he doesn't get in trouble for using it lol

[@leilacharmers3056]

Did they really get a Dark Web expert with the worst internet connection?

[@RexKraemer73]

Probably she zoomed via Tor, and with every layer of the onion she has lost a bit of quality...;-)

[@JK_Clark]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrSejmik]

Jim was so upset he went silent for a good couple of minutes there lmfao

[@dashlamb9318]

He needs to stay silent unless he's reading his shitty adverts. God damn what a wast of time listening to him do something he obviously did not want to do - HIS OWN FUCKING POD CAST!

[@Mrbeast0099]

Well that escalated quickly 😳

[@uzvisheni]

Fan From Serbia :D If Bert Kreischer visited Serbia with Mark Hamil, what is stopping you Jim :) Can't wait to see your Standup live! Love the show, keep it up.

[@Lepocoloco]

He'll go to Serbia if the tour in North Korea gets cancelled.

[@breecorvin289]

A week from now the club will be paying people 5 dollars to attend Forests show

[@ThatGuy-ot1gt]

Aussie tour? How'd I don't know about that? Oh right.. That's how I don't know about that.. lol

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Being entertained while pretending like I'm learning stuff! I'll remember some info from this one, it'll happen this time!

[@LRubenSaravia]

"if you just feel the need to talk to strangers..." the comedian said

[@MRGagga]

Usually I am a big fan of JJ, but in this episode I was appalled, by the outdated opinion JJ kept defending - and we all know JJ is always trying to be appalling!

[@WEAPONX4S]

Good morning Morocco 🇲🇦!!! Jim. Come party. Tangiers rocks!!! Anyway- good night Australia 🇦🇺

[@aick]

We had a friend in town die from drugs he got on Silk Road. Purity our ass.

[@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391]

Please dont ever stop doing this podcast. It's honestly my favorite one out of the 100s of thousands out there. Love the dynamic, love the comedy, love the crew, love the content!!!👍👏🍻

[@dashlamb9318]

I don't know about that.

[@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391]

@@dashlamb9318 lol I hope that's a pun from the show but si.. thats what makes opinions so valuable.. everyone has them.

[@Nebs1]

@@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391 if you enjoyed this episode you would love one of the actual good ones.

[@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391]

@@Nebs1 I posted this before I watched this one and was excited

[@shannonrogue9676]

Happy belated birthday to both Kelly and Jack. I turned 36 on the 8th, we're all cancer 😅

[@carolyntalbot947]

Ooh, this ought to be a good one!

[@Newslegion]

It's not

[@garretolson6104]

An internet expert... with the shottiest connection yet.

[@joshkleine21]

Jim’s gone ultimate boomer… He sounds exactly like how he describes his Dad speaks when talking about his antiquated views of the world 😂🤣

[@jewsco]

Or he has more to risk nowadays and he has seen fellow comedians cancelled recently and that is why he feels this is a touchy situation

[@joshkleine21]

@@jewsco No. That’s not it.

[@jewsco]

@@joshkleine21 you don’t think that is it ? Are you seriously this foolish? Of course he doesn’t want his name associated with this. Because if someone goes onto the dark web and gets in trouble they would say jim jefferies told them about it and how to get on it.

[@mattbrody8045]

@@jewsco I dunno man that rape joke in the dreams episode could have gone either way 😂

[@joshkleine21]

@@jewsco haha ok Einstein 😂🤣

[@victorguerrero2300]

We need a baseball episode with someone like Harold Reynolds, Eric Byrnes or Kevin Millar as the expert! would be hilarious

[@victorguerrero2300]

Might be just me that wants it but still lol

[@ghadders1629]

I'm totally with Jim, on the atom bomb analogy, brilliant

[@olivermorphett2717]

Should have done your tour in hobart!!

[@argyros333]

Cyprus here! Verified location ;)

[@GLENC0C0]

Lmao does Jim actually use Keeps? 🤭

[@jasonchapple4052]

Loving the podcasts use them to unwind on my home Question for Jim did you have any input to the Northern Territories Australia’s new tourist campaign because it has Jim Jeffries all over it HaHa Google that shit !!

[@TooShots]

If you steal something worth $100 and when you get caught with it it's increased in value to let's say $10000 which value do you get prosecuted for?

[@willingtooppose7919]

I wonder if Eileen was related to Lemmy from Motorhead ?

[@mrkerps7242]

Come watch a Forest comedy show where he trails off during the punchlines

[@crookedsouls]

There are generations that don't know life before the internet now. Feel old, feel very old. So talking about putting the Genie back in the bottle is never going to happen.

[@shanestafford6605]

Jesus I’m rooting so hard for Forrest and Kelly rn. God damn Jim

[@Nebs1]

Comments add a lot of value, look at all the people here coming together to say Jim is a grumpy bastard in the episode. Very interesting topic, but not even close to the best IDKAT podcast. Probably the worse actually. I only laughed once which is not a good number.

[@reiniercloete]

I'll take some of the Merch Please ? Welcome back Jim...

[@surealivro6242]

Jim doesnt even realize what a legend Eileen is. why Jim such a boomer :))

[@Weehawk]

Love Eileen!

[@WillBravoNotEvil]

Well, looks like Imma have to re-jigger my "Jim's Not A Fascist" arguments that I've been using against my right wing friends. If he starts drawing a mind-map on a chalk board [Glenn Beck reference] I'm *sunk*

[@dantheman8520]

Hi jim, thanks for the episode on the dark web, before this i knew nothing about this but now i have a couple of g of Charlie and a glock on the way, best thing is i didnt have to leave my armchair or meet shady types in an alleyway.... Thanks jim you saved me! I've been fed up with Having to fake illness so the doctor gets me high

[@spencersoutham8671]

Haven't even fully finished watching this and I'm loving it. I honestly see good points made on both sides of the argument more or less regarding the "dark web". It's entertaining the back and forth... passionate but civil. Another great episode team! Quickly becoming one of my favorite pods

[@pikasnipe1]

Gilligan's Island was a documentary, oh those poor lost people. Just reminds me of Galaxy Quest.

[@bracejuice7955]

You’re so far behind you think you’re in first place

[@pikasnipe1]

@@bracejuice7955 hmmm?

[@bracejuice7955]

@@pikasnipe1 they were joking and you didn’t get it. Makes it ironic when you act like they’re the dumb ones.

[@pikasnipe1]

@@bracejuice7955 I did.... And was just making my own. Maybe you need to evaluate. Have you even seen the movie?

[@joesikic6531]

Going to a catholic school was way more dangerous than walking there

[@dawooddawood3158]

dread pilot roberts needs an episode on his own

[@lonelyone]

Maybe the Princess Bride episode.

[@daftypunker4639]

the ridiculous amount of advertisers they talk about and the half hour of introductions every episode make these difficult to watch... only about 30-45% of the videos are watchable

[@Chase942]

Jim was just looking to argue today. I love it 😂

[@GLENC0C0]

42:00 God damn it Jim... /Facepalm

[@nartouzumaki8232]

Spoiler Black Widow destroyed the Red Room

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

These comment sections are pretty good.

[@JBond-zf4dj]

I don't think any of them have watched The Princess Bride?

[@davidbryan4978]

I agree Jim Jeffries..... people should use their real names when posting shit online.... hey Jim having trouble finding you in the year book what surname should I be looking for 😉

[@lukecarter4291]

Lmao. Jim sounds worse than his dad in this episode

[@johndavies5413]

Internet expert let down, ironically, by bad internet connection.🧐😂

[@laurahamilton8392]

I agree with Jim I can’t advocate for anything that gives a platform to creeps

[@lobsang666]

what about youtube comments sections? you can be a creep here

[@blakhand4753]

The very earth you walk upon gives a platform for creeps.

[@Nebs1]

Misinformation, illegal and creepy stuff is posted on KZbin, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and pretty much every single website that allows people to sign up.

[@Cynical_Ninja]

You do have (at least) one fan in Slovenia 😀

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

1:06:26 the slip-up of "TwoSet sell drugs" is just a little in-joke for me and a friend.

[@dimitarlazarov321]

I knew more than Jim and I don't know how I feel about it

[@kayfury6614]

No “comment world” on THIS episode ? C’mon!!!

[@BrettLeP]

And it needed it bad!

[@Newslegion]

Man this was hard work - It's depressing how rich conservative boomers like jimbo stop caring about the world, o well whatever

[@FatNorthernBigot]

I thought we'd already done a drugs episode? Okay, it's not the only thing in the Dark Web, but it is the best thing.

[@bobvalentino3710]

I wonder if Jim would be more accepting of it if it was called, “the bright web” or maybe “the colorful web” or maybe “the rainbow web”. Kinda like the southern style chicken sandwich probably wouldn’t have sold near as well in Georgia if they called it the northern style chicken sandwich or a dark chicken sandwich. It’s all about marketing and word association in the end, right?

[@lrod6923]

RIP Forrest. Went from 0 to 100 too damn quick. Hope he's back on the next episode 😅.

[@czechyourself8525]

My sister used the dark web to find somewhere to live and move out from her abusive and controlling ex husband because he kept checking all of her internet searches and would go crazy if he saw the history had been cleared on the regular net

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Lol Forrest on about comments, look at Rogan when he moved to spotify!

[@beepboopbleep3695]

cute shirts b-team

[@Arthur_Pendragon2022]

That's the Virtuvian man

[@Mythodiir]

Come on Eileen Ormsby

[@az_atheist]

I am older than Jim and I was thinking he is a grumpy old curmudgeon.

[@toddkanhai3164]

.....the irony of railing against the internet whilst using it to make money.....on his podcast....on the internet....hmmmmm

[@mattbrody8045]

Love this podcast, love Jim, love everyone on it. But this episode could have been so fascinating and interesting if it wasn't for Jim interrupting and de-railing the guest. First time I've been slightly frustrated listening to this gem of a podcast,

[@lonelyone]

I feel like when he called everyone who's ever been on the dark web a piece of shit, Eileen took it a bit personally too.

[@mattbrody8045]

@@lonelyone Yeah. I don't know if he just hasn't thought his position through and ran on instinct or he was being extreme for comedic effect. Either way I love the guy, seen him live and find him absolutely hilarious and this doesn't change that. I was just frustrated this time and found him a distraction. Maybe its just because I found the subject so interesting and wanted to hear her speak freely.

[@lonelyone]

@@mattbrody8045 No, it's not just you. You could see Forrest and Kelly getting fed up with it too. He's just very inconsistent with his views and didn't seem to want to engage in this topic because he was trapped in his bias.

[@dashlamb9318]

Only "slightly." What the fuck happened to him. Did he get kicked in the nuts before the show?

[@Nebs1]

@@lonelyone Eileen did seem a bit offended. She made reference to thing Jim had said in previous podcasts, she is probably a fan. Then she comes on the show and gets treated pretty bad. Usually if Jim doesn't agree with a guest he is still respectful to them. Not this time.

[@joesikic6531]

Yep, put your name on comments instead of hiding behind an avatar or whatever it's called. Joe Sikic ✌️

[@ananegoescu2945]

gosh i went for a redbull pulledme wings burrrrn

[@MagnumCarta]

Great episode from Jim "The Luddite" Jeffries! Comments, what are they even good for?

[@ymtonemanlaer4088]

That is nothing like Parler. Get your facts straight.

[@kainesworld6711]

Jim was not having any of this dark web shit the whole episode 😂😂😂😂

[@utopiafail]

How ya doing ya old Commie!

[@kayfury6614]

Jack looks like Dave Grohl if Dave Grohl never did “big me.”

[@stardogchampion96]

Dad Talk. Triggered.

[@megandoherty7004]

Level playing field. Mate. I couldn't go back to what bullshit level playing field we had in the past because there wasn't one. Still usually love the show.