Whose Fault Is It? - Judging Your Sim Racing Crashes

[@lukalikeskeebs3023]

It’s always the other persons fault, even if it’s your fault, just say it’s the other persons to feel good about yourself

[@humphreywolfe]

*"I think Ericsson hit us"*

[@Jordy268]

This is the best way.

[@MyrKnof]

this is the way, never introspect or improve, thats boring!

[@KyoOnTheInternet]

"I cut the apron at Daytona, crashed into another car at full speed which caused a 25 car pileup, I think it's the other guy's fault..."

[@Matty.Hill_87]

@@KyoOnTheInternet 🤣🤣

[@misorodzinak8829]

Dingo Grape should be the name of Jamble Wanglebork's rally co-driver.

[@didyouknow5648]

My dingo

[@SavingTheUndesireables]

I second this 100%

[@tonzku.]

@@SavingTheUndesireables i third this

[@harmonixfl8479]

@@tonzku. i 4th this

[@abalakrishnan4152]

@@harmonixfl8479 I 205th this

[@ba97racing]

Just to clarify, in NASCAR the yellow line rule or double yellow line or what have you (line the delineates the apron from the racing surface) is ONLY in effect at Super Speedways. Daytona, Talladega and now Atlanta due to its reconfiguration. On these 3 tracks its an actual rule, no passing below the yellow line. All other ovals its fair game even below the inside line.

[@fallen2820]

And it's always a judgement call, the rule states once 2 tires go below the double yellow line than at that point it is illegal

[@gatling216]

Yeah, I don't think that one would have technically been a foul, but he should have known better than to try to make the apron work. That's just asking for trouble.

[@MisterFribble]

@@fallen2820 and it's never consistent

[@kharrington14kh]

@@gatling216 the black truck gave the position back right after the pass was made. It also looks like the other truck possibly forced them below the yellow line.

[@Jaymes27]

Definitely not the black trucks fault. There was room, the other truck moved off the yellow line for the draft. The black truck moved up inside above the yellow line and the other truck tried to defend late and moved the black truck below the line. The black truck tried to move back to the track a few times but the other truck was bumping him down until he spun on the apron.

[@aaaaaaaa-xm6kl]

You should make this a series

[@diggy1147]

Yes

[@El-Burrito]

This is the 2nd one so far so I feel like it is a series

[@wtfbbq]

yes, and I wish it was made daily and an hour long, I could watch this forever. who doesn't love judging and placing blame? plus we get to see fools causing massive carnage. this is the golden content I come to youtube for

[@mercetajs]

yeah.. i dont know much about all the rules and whos fault is it etc.. so Jimmy explaining it is educational for me at least :D and pretty cool tbh.. i believe this can help me be a better driver as well.. even if i dont race much... just drive around with a friend on a full server lol

[@DontAttme]

Reminds me of Stewards Room by Broughy1322

[@ShadowCloud04]

This channel has really become the best blend of real and sim racing all in one!

[@4879daniel]

Not the best for grammar though, should be Whose not Who’s in the title. Unsubbed.

[@stuartmackie917]

@@4879daniel unsubbing someone for that, its a bit petty, no?

[@jonnmostovoy2406]

@@stuartmackie917 whose to say, Stuart. Whose to say.

[@Rockandrollmademe]

@@4879daniel BYE

[@LasherTimora]

@@stuartmackie917 They're probably joking about the unsub part. I hope.

[@86themadhatter27]

You just know the guy racing the AI in F1 at Silverstone is new to racing and he's absolutely chuffed with that overtake and couldn't wait to share it with someone. Keep racing man

[@Trionplayz2]

Do you guys like his videos becaus it suck and its lam HaHa

[@Trionplayz2]

Lame*

[@shinymoddy]

@@Trionplayz2 what are you correcting

[@w花b]

​@@shinymoddyprobably tried to be mean but failed miserably

[@fnglert]

"The next corner after this is a massive straight" - Jimmy Broeadbent, 2022

[@DavidRodrigues1]

😂

[@MikkoRantalainen]

That should be made a shirt.

[@JordanRx8]

Jesus loves you

[@fnglert]

@@JordanRx8 Tell that creep to stay away from me, please.

[@twiggybongo8978]

I didn’t even realise that’s hilarious 😂😂

[@nothinghere7391]

Small correction Jim Mer. 13:32 In Oval Racing, Especially in NASCAR there's no such thing as track limits. You can go anywhere. The only exception are tracks where pack racing happens, like Daytona, Talladega and now - Atlanta. There you're prohibited from putting a tire below the double yellow line to advance your position. If you do so, you either give it right back, or get a penalty

[@prgnify]

Top quality feedback. Bumping with a comment.

[@Grimoire44]

13 had the inside before crossing and the 13 moves over the line after the outside car sways toward them. After the outside car sways, they don't move back up to where they were to give the room back and they hold the middle of that lane. they were originally to the rightmost part of it when 13 took the inside.

[@rarewhiteape]

The 13 had no right to get back up there as the cars ahead were in that drafting train. What was the 11 supposed to do? Give up the draft and become the meat in a 3-wide sandwich?

[@Wozrop]

@@Grimoire44 The 13 had the room to make that work reasonably, but they got on the apron and lost it, I agree they could have made it out the other side of that, it would have been kinda rude but totally legal.

[@Festivus_Miracle]

With the only other exception being course cuts at the road courses (much like what we saw @ COTA with the esses being policed strictly)

[@_gr1nchh]

What I've learned from watching these clips: A lot of sim racers think giving the other driver just their own car width of space is enough. No one seems to be accounting for them locking brakes or missing their line. Everyone seems to think "But I had the line" and so that makes it ok to drive over people's noses and pinch them and give them no room at all. They are trying to completely shut out the other person's momentum and that's just not good racing. Give them room, race them hard, race them clean. It's ok to lose but lose graciously. Don't win being an asshole.

[@semdezeeuw1203]

Dude I know what you mean but some people get enough room but they haven't heard of braking or throttle controle. If i give you enough space. Like 1.5/2 car widths than I have dealt my fair playing card. His line is also my line. But when I overtake you with enough space and have my car in front of you in a turn your should brake slightly just to not hit me. Why do you think that formula 1 racing is so agressive...... they ram their cars right in front of you. You have to anticipate upon it and immidiat react to that. You have to give eachother some room. But also if you get overtaken slow a bit down. You have enough corners to overtake them.....

[@avvidsttv8185]

Well I mean u are only entitled to a car width of space, a good driver will always make sure to give the car they are fighting as lttile room as allowed

[@AD-df5tm]

5:25 is basically what happens everytime you try to pass someone in GT7.

[@counterfit5]

They deserved it for recording a widescreen TV with a phone in portrait.

[@Gl-my8fw]

Those are the people you let pass and use as brakes ne t corner.

[@TonySopeano46]

That Ferrari did it on purpose lmao.

[@AlexanderTrefz]

At 5:00 the BMW at the back has a custom livery that reads "Driving style ok? 0-800-wayne" the wayne being a stupid old innuendo meaning "who cares?", so he clearly is a gold standard member of the sim racing community.

[@AlexanderTrefz]

8:20 has a name Jimmer, he simply Stroll-ed him.

[@1SIMONdeGEKKE1]

this is amusement and great lessons at the same time!

[@ryanlee315]

Mostly amusement lmao

[@Lcngopher]

The yellow line rule is only for what used to be known as restrictor plate racing tracks. Thats talladega and daytona. They also used that rule for atlanta this past march as it was essentially the same package as those tracks. Its a safety thing. Any other oval track, you can pass below the line on the bottom.

[@eamonahern7495]

Your experience has given you the ability to take into account factors that I wouldn't have noticed. As insightful as it was entertaining. Nice one Jimmy!

[@HeriEystberg]

What I always tell myself before and during a race is to forget everything about winning the race and instead just focus on safely passing the car in front of me. When you try to go for the win you tend to forget about safety because it will require an extraordinary effort to pass several cars, and that means you have to take a lot of risks. Focus on your current position only, and be aware of potential opportunities for overtaking.

[@robertmcmahon4549]

Great way to look at racing👍

[@deal5307]

Good advice, thank you.

[@ggsimmonds1]

Probably the biggest mistake or change in mindset that is needed for online sim racing is to learn not to treat every lap like its the last.

[@deaks25]

Nice to see a PC2 clip; that game got me back into sim-racing after many years off the genre so is a game I have a massive soft-spot for. The point about using your head is probably one of the best messages you could give sim-racers. The penultimate clip, with the Ferrari and Porsche, saying how the Porsche could have just backed out slightly, been smart and just slip-streamed back past on the next straight is a really good one; so often we get done in a corner and see the tinniest of openings and the red-mist will descend with the thought process of "Oh no you don't, I'm going to have you here" followed immediately by an incident, when the best thing to do is just take a breath and stay calm.

[@hellbentstudios8721]

Absolutely love your input Jimmy! As someone who has caused their fair share of crashes in the sim, I can say seeing your knowledge and trying to apply it to my racing is something I always enjoy! Keep up the great content Jimmer! Hope the arm gets better!

[@scottster8858]

I've been suggesting Jimmy do this for months. Hopefully I played some part in getting this idea to him. However, I did suggest Jimmy get a black robe, gavel and powdered wig, which I maintain would still be better.

[@MS08GAMING]

I have just realised that at 12:00 it is my clip! I am so much better now, and my steering was awful then! Means a lot Jimmy, just made by day!

[@MrMclarenmagic]

Love jimmy’s shameless honesty “doing this again because money bay-bee” 😂

[@christiantracey915]

Someone (you) has got to pay for his lifestyle

[@Jimmy_Broadbent]

Almost like it's my job or something

[@pookachu64]

@@Jimmy_Broadbent thought you were just a rich mummies boy?

[@nananghermawan24]

@@pookachu64 he once lives in a shed, lives off sponsors despite the expensive rig and almost killed himself in that shed. Does that sounds "rich" to you? His house (fortunately) & setup i believe is bought with money out off patreon, KZbin, and Sponsors combined

[@Gl-my8fw]

​@@christiantracey915 the man has earned every bit of his success.

[@8thlvlMage]

This could easily be a series! You're taking all of your sim knowledge and real world racing experience and applying it to these clips. It's informative, and you bring your Jimmy humor to it as well so it's a good laugh. One thing I like is that you're also very direct with the people who are at fault. You're not mean, but you still let them know the situation.

[@lemonman8816]

please make this a series!

[@company071]

4:30 I know that guy, I was in that event. A lot of discussion about fairness after that race

[@captainarcbite8063]

Did he reveal if it was intentional? Because it looks like hes on a decent line to overtake then the car jerks left

[@company071]

@@captainarcbite8063 No, the car infront says that because of lap 1 damage he had to brake early. The driver behind says that he didn't expect it but he was given a DT. Quite a bit of salt involved though

[@captainarcbite8063]

@@company071 I mean right after that. when theyre exiting the corner

[@Delimon007]

1. Don't brake 3-4 car lengths early 2. Don't change your racing line on the braking line

[@Delimon007]

@@company071 Sounds like a load of horse shit to me, if your car is damaged and you can no longer race properly then it's time to get out of the way because there is no way someone can expect for you to 1. Brake 4 car lengths early 2. Change your line as you are braking

[@veda9151]

IMO here are more than enough videos on KZbin about how to drive faster, but not enough content about race craft. This series might begins as a fast turnover comment video, but I think there are something special there, especially for people like me who only watched races but never participated in one, it given me a lot of insight about how drivers think in a race. And helps me to understand and appreciate hard but fair racing.

[@skooks2533]

Please do more of these I am learning so much from your explanations!

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

The things you do for content Jimmy... I salute your dedication. I hope the mounts on the helmet cam won't betray you again. Do not compromise your field of view my dude. Maybe a donation goal for F1 style helmet cam or something in that fashion is an option although I would be scared to figure out the cost of these.

[@04stiger]

Very informative Jimmy. We have a Monday night "friends only closed lobby" competition and sometimes the results take days to sort out as we squabble over various racing incidents. we all try to be gentlemen but when the lights go out the red mist descends rapidly :)

[@cmag19]

13:40 American here who’s big into Nascar. This is Daytona, and at Daytona (and Dega), there is a rule that your left side tires can NOT go below the double yellow line.

[@DevinEMILE]

Is that in the sporting code for iracing? Can’t tell you how many people do it. Wreck then say well it’s not illegal because I racing doesn’t say it is

[@bojakmeraig6719]

13 could use a lesson from Larry Mac. Treat double line as a wall

[@MagicalMike2]

14:21 was that a mass Turok falling to his death sound effect spam? That caught me off guard lol.

[@PresidentScrooge]

5:24 - The "You got this" frame makes it even better.

[@NascarManiac136]

13:46 oval specialist here. at that specific track, Talladega, the Apron is not allowed. if it is a single yellow line or a white line, it is allowed to be on the apron

[@jackreesrees224]

Im new and im already happy, using music from Persona 4, hell yea

[@LeLowii]

The jag in Monza is the same as the Porsche at Road Am. The Audi even gave him enough room to survive there. But at his trajectory hes never gonna make the corner without hitting the other guy if he tries to keep fighting for the position. The main problem is just people not being able to let a lost position go....

[@skilz2kil528]

Love this, not much content out there like this & its super useful with these actual examples to compare to our own gameplay and see where we can improve. Hope you continue this as a series!

[@Dice-Head]

Jimmer has the best intros. I don't believe they are thought through, I think he sets a 3 second countdown on the video camera and does literally whatever.

[@jaredtaylor2732]

On the super speedway, 13 had the line and cannot be blocked down without a way to regain the track in the same position he was in. That became a rule when things like this happened and the lower car would not give up.

[@KylarTyphlosion]

Jimmer with that persona 4 music in the background. Banger taste

[@lampbag]

I love the song you played first in the background, good choice

[@tobytoxd]

14:19 OOMG so funny! "It's a GOOD crash!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@forestwombat3456]

Sorry to hear about the injured arm... I know what it's like as I'm recovering from a broken collarbone and I'm a FPS player. Wish you all the best for a speedy recovery so you can get back to what you love without pain, because we all know pain won't keep a REAL gamer out for long. GG

[@generalguilmon6719]

Is that a real framed picture of the GT7 starter cars? They look so cute together!

[@jiska111111111111111]

Its the exact framed picture you see after completing this first Cafe mission Idk how or where he got it

[@GraceMcClain]

I've spent ages looking around that sub, joining in with the stewarding where I think I have something to offer, and learning a lot of things I didn't know. It's been great fun, so thank you for introducing me to it :) Hope your arm is feeling better!

[@andyfielder2557]

This was so useful to clear up some of those grey areas where I always question who was at fault. Thanks Jimmer!

[@jeffreytenthije]

With the last f1 clip, when you get half-pitted on the rear, it's very hard for the car ahead to get out of it, you basically get forcefully pit maneuvered without escape, this can be seen as moving over, unaware if this is the case

[@Raidkill]

Loving these so far Jimmer! Hope to see more of these in the near future!

[@mrhammers78]

Number 1 was definitely intentional

[@harleymann5981]

Loving the editing of the videos! So perfectly scuffed in the most hilarious way. Appreciating the Persona love too!

[@dalag3324]

4:26 reminded me of Australia 2002 when Barrichello was the guy ahead and did something similar to this and then Half Schumacher endeed up crashing throught his rear wing at and flying at the first corner

[@danshaw99]

That’s me and the start! Pink car is me, excited to be on the channel.

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

0:22 That music is from: No Straight roads. It was a music fighting game for PS4

[@BreezyBite]

YES. I was seeing if he put it in the description but he didn’t :( very good game !

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

@@BreezyBite Yepp. No problem.

[@juderex8921]

hey jimmy, as a fan of the channel who doesn't know too much about racing, this is really great content, would love to see more in the future!

[@Karpinski29]

I sincerely hope this makes lobbies cleaner. Jimmer for pres

[@willadams9001]

I’m a pretty casual viewer - this is a nice addition ❤ great series of videos

[@Sovek86]

In regards to the truck wreck. That track is Talladega, one of 2 superspeedways in the NASCAR lineup. Superspeedways have a very important rule, DO NOT go below the yellow line, In the straight its not as much of a problem but on the banking, those have in excess of 30 degrees and you put one wheel on that and its hang on cause you're going for a ride.

[@hsanrb]

My #1 rule as I start online racing... Unless you are absolutely 100% clear, take precautions because lag and netcode makes anything too close to call as a closed door.

[@jamesgilbert124]

Two instances of the BMW driver *not* being the one at fault suggest that virtual BMW drivers are much better at driving than real life BMW drivers.

[@JR-qf9vt]

These videos are so fun to watch, and probably easier to make for Jimmy. Win-win

[@brianrigsby7900]

10:52 on my line?!?!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@steveee_0]

Had to watch this in 0.5 speed to see that the Ferrari actually started to slide and then had a snap :D Jimmer got some good eyes :D

[@Wozrop]

I didn't see it either, I didn't even hear it like Jimmer did

[@FemtoTheWolf]

Ohhh boyyy I love these videos! I was literally no joke re-watching the old one about 3 hours ago wondering when you were going to post the next one 😂

[@mikehipperson]

Going below the apron is not allowed especially if you are trying to get a shufti at Angela Rayner's growler!

[@skrimper]

I don't know what you just said but I think it's some weird foreigner joke and I'm dying 😂

[@zackantonioli8313]

A couple of these were the opposite of what I thought, but I lvoed it anyway. MORE. best series ever.

[@wisdomSP]

Man, back in the day I used to race in Sim Raceway Online with a PC. The servers quit working awhile ago, but we had a rather small group that was always on and respected each other. Every now and then we would get a yahoo, but nothing that compares to what I see now. The best part was racing with the developers and chatting with the community.

[@lodziarzzz7315]

With the NASCAR ute incident its a rule called "the yellow line rule" which clearly states drivers can't go below anyway This won't change any end result but another rule to keep in mind

[@MK-U-N]

I mean, it's totally OK if you ram into me because you suck at driving games, but the DDoS afterwards is a pretty obvious result of that behaviour.

[@Trippin36t5]

Thanks for the new "MotorCourt"? Video. Either way, one of my favorite things you do.

[@Kris_T_]

Love this series/format, keep it up :)

[@peterhuston7888]

With the Road America incident, the funny part is the Ferrari is braking in what is now a flat out corner.

[@mt2oo8]

3:55 was definitely intentional

[@James-Shrimpton]

Great video Jimmer! Wish your arm speedy recovery. Look forward to next video. Keep them coming

[@KIMkardashi-un]

In the first video the guy clearly sideswiped out of spite 🤣

[@DevinEMILE]

After the dive bomb of the millennium. Whole clip was just an example of how not to race

[@shinmalpure2397]

That's going in the Sim Racing Smooth Brainer List

[@sheogorath6804]

"He just turned into me man"

[@WeeWohWeeWoh]

This 100% should be a series, just a quick review of each crash easy p z

[@fin3662]

The song in the background from 2:25 to 4:50 is "Heartbeat, Heartbreak" or more accurately a rendition of it that has been edited, it's a song from Persona 4, you should check the song and the game out, P4 is a fantastic game with one of the best soundtracks ever created.

[@crimsonsuperman]

Shoutout to the Persona 4 music playing in the background!

[@amicloud_yt]

I actually really like this series. Love to have your input as to how to improve. Maybe you could do a similar series for other ways to improve? OH! And I just preordered my Team87 hoodie!

[@simonjohnade]

Just excellent info!! I am by no means a pro sim racer, but to hear the aspects of the rules or code of conduct broken down like this ... I'm soaking it up. Cheers for that. Love the channel mate.

[@simonjohnade]

Hi Jimmy. Just a heads up. Seems like someone is impersonating you and trying to scam folks into believing they just won a sim rig. Person would not provide any bit of proof I was chatting to you, which in todays climate, most will understand seems a red flag. Just letting you know.

[@Flyingdinosaur69]

That last one was some crazy good close F1 racing for online sim racing actually. Rare to see that without getting effed by internet/netcode

[@sickopaul3610]

the fact that in the first part of the video there's heartbeat heartbreak from P4 in the background makes this extremely good.

[@JunimBC]

Loving these videos, and what u said at 8:40 made a lot of sense

[@benjaminwildeaudio]

keep these coming :) theyre great!

[@bencezavarko7312]

I love these kinds of videos. Broughy used to do this but sadly stopped for some reason

[@ck867]

In the second clip, the white car and the car in front braked at the same time, only the car in front was about 3-4 car lengths ahead. The #20 wasn't brake checked, but they wouldn't have been expecting the white car to brake so early...

[@budthecyborg4575]

Great video series, Judge Jimmy is always fun to watch.

[@sDmD13]

10:48 whats the song called at first? i dont mean bla bla

[@StephenSwitzer]

I love these videos, keep 'em up Jimmer!

[@sharksrbetter]

i love this intro its just cool pictures, and then "ROCK"

[@Bigaza454]

That project cars Indy incident is a classic example of why you don't try to go around the front of a crashed/stationary car in online racing.

[@sammy13nation94]

10:39 I had a wreck like that irl once, (enduro racing with average daily drivers, i was in a blue buick) I was in the spun out cars position. I emedietly held the brakes to stop myself, and when I came to a stop I had just enough time to look left at oncoming traffic and see a purple chevy hit my driver door at about 50 mph. No idea how i walked away but I'm glad i did. Ps. The video of the full race is on my channel

[@jozueplays8323]

I totally feel you on the arm injury, I dislocated my thumb doing a run in Dirt Rally 2.0 on stream. I had to put a steering wheel knob on my rig so I could still play in automatic mode. xD

[@nickward5130]

I am sure others have commented on it as well but for ovals, onto the apron or below the yellow line rule is only on what is considered superspeedway crashes. Example Daytona and Talladega. And in real life Atlanta this year

[@juandredutoit4088]

If I was driving that Aston Martin I would have defended on the outside, move slightly to the inside to give him the narrower Angle, leading to the second corner you will have a clear advantage

[@MrLolx2u]

15:20 doesn't even need braking. That's all on the Ferrari's fault. Poor perception on his part. That corner is relatively shallow that you don't need brakes to enter it. Just lift off, turn in and then slowly power it out the corner and you can still hang on the outside. That "I need that apex" move was slightly moronic and impeding the Porsche.

[@crashmaster26]

@11:15 well one could ALSO (in addition to) argue when you are coming up fast on a car that just spun and is sideways on the track... 90% of the time if they are going to try and get out of the way, they are going to HIT THE GAS AND MOVE FORWARD. Your MUCH better avoidance line, is going BEHIND THE SPUN CAR, NOT IN FRONT!!! Same goes for a walking pedestrian, it will ALWAYS be safer to walk BEHIND the stopped car than in front. Why is this such a hard concept for even experienced racers ?

[@SolarCrownDrifter]

Back at it again with the Pearl Blue Soul Ridge Racer Type4 Soundtrack. Makes my day :) sounds like a remix tho

[@talon1706]

I used to be a Steward in VOR years ago. Loved it.

[@GeordieRossi303]

Henlo Maurice, chilling behind Jimmer. He be vibeing 😎👋🐧

[@vurblz]

8:45 Taking more control or initiative in your racing. Giving too much control to the other driver will always give them moves that might feel like they're in the wrong. Learning to control the opponents position since you do you the control going into if you control the amount of space he has ect. Giving space just give him the opportunity to do moves and allows for unpredictable racing.