The Best Antennas For Your Helium ($HNT) Hotspot Miner

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Jimmy is Promo

Jimmy is Promo

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@jimmyispromo
@jimmyispromo 2 жыл бұрын
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@koreanman5
@koreanman5 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy! Thanks for all you do. I was hoping if you could answer a question regarding the second antenna! It links to an 3dBi and was wondering what you would recommend for an short 8dBi?
@DiMoraDiamond
@DiMoraDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
That drop was an epic fail, LOL. Clicked "try again" for an hour. RAK hosed that one up big-time.
@treytrey6011
@treytrey6011 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiMoraDiamond I and my brother tried for 2 hours and never got anything ordered.
@gregriendeau586
@gregriendeau586 2 жыл бұрын
@@treytrey6011 Scalpers bought them up they are all over the marketplace and eBay i was sad
@koneko_x
@koneko_x 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the LoRa fibreglass 5.8dbi. It didn't come with a cable though. What kind of cable do I need to get to connect it to my Nebra indoor miner?
@noahbaumgartner3551
@noahbaumgartner3551 2 жыл бұрын
Hodl and get a miner like rissminer and you will be thanking yourself
@b.b.2638
@b.b.2638 2 жыл бұрын
how fast is it compered to to other miners
@7StarAlgarve
@7StarAlgarve 2 жыл бұрын
@@b.b.2638 They are all the same, computing power doesn't come into Helium mining
@TheDeathvice187
@TheDeathvice187 2 жыл бұрын
@@7StarAlgarve rissminer is completely different
@briankuhn7396
@briankuhn7396 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not so thankful for this advice right now. 😂 Hopefully 5G catches on and HNT price goes up.
@geekverve
@geekverve 2 жыл бұрын
As a community of helium miners, I think we have a lot to learn about the way antennas work. There is no "umbrella" affect where radio waves travel up and then fall back down. At 915MHz the ionosphere won't even reflect them back to Earth. Vertical antennas are omnidirectional. Radio waves travel in straight lines from the antenna in all directions. It's more likely that, since LoRaWAN is designed for relatively short range (compared to other communications protocols) and very low power, too much gain overloads the front end on the receivers, distorting the data. I would guess 3-5dBi to be the sweet spot for populated areas, with higher gain being more useful in rural areas.
@milescheang5603
@milescheang5603 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this spot on info. Videos like this one, it's like the blind leading the blind.
@HeliumDownunder
@HeliumDownunder 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy, sorry mate I don't agree with your suggestion of the 8dBi if you are on prime real estate in a city, you mention if you are up high. If you are up high and use an 8 dBi antenna the signal is amplified in a vert tight narrow band that would likely pass over the units close by. If the intent is to hit a region that is a long way off then you are correct, if it is to maximize rewards in a city setting then I believe you are incorrect. 8dBi is best served for flat rural areas where most hot spots are on a vertical plain. My recommendation is to use the 5.8 dBi as the maximum gain antenna in the city area. I have a channel aimed at the Australian market and I have a few videos that show my potential set up, I will be creating a video that has a focus on this content as soon as my first Hot Spot arrives and I can do some testing with the Discovery mode. I really do totally appreciate all the work and great quality content in your videos.
@pickles2500
@pickles2500 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your channel called mate
@HeliumDownunder
@HeliumDownunder 3 жыл бұрын
@@pickles2500 Heliumdownder
@thedude2867
@thedude2867 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the lightning arrestor when installing antennas on a roof.
@PepeTostado
@PepeTostado 3 жыл бұрын
What's that?
@vahn2g4
@vahn2g4 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepeTostado it's a ground so that if your antenna gets struck by lightning it doesn't fry your miner
@jamey6236
@jamey6236 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@labman27
@labman27 3 жыл бұрын
Most of these antennas are fiberglass.
@grumpydad56
@grumpydad56 3 жыл бұрын
Truth is, a direct lightning strike will fry everything. A lightning protection ground protects you against the static buildup from lightning in the air and even dry wind that blows over the antenna and feedline. Have to discharge the static so it doesn’t go into the miner
@justinborchardt
@justinborchardt 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff just purchased 10 bobcat miners myself. Nervous as crap but excited to see what happens.
@traviswyatt7273
@traviswyatt7273 3 жыл бұрын
The best antenna is the 4dbi that comes with Bobcat. Wish I could find those. Works the best.
@MrK3lvinrecinos
@MrK3lvinrecinos 3 жыл бұрын
Why
@DCB.20400
@DCB.20400 3 жыл бұрын
Why
@alexd591
@alexd591 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see a graph of the price of helium vs the number of mines deployed.
@Matt999PL
@Matt999PL 3 жыл бұрын
In the last month helium price went up around 100% with # of miners goes up also
@JamesMiller-ex3ff
@JamesMiller-ex3ff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt999PL Check the price of helium now ;D
@BeatsByEndless
@BeatsByEndless 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesMiller-ex3ff or now ;D
@ROOAKuma
@ROOAKuma 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeatsByEndless not now, its going down :)
@discontinuity
@discontinuity 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ROOAKuma When in doubt zoom out
@XRPotential
@XRPotential 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your wife for the stamping up work in the background! :)
@papiwilly
@papiwilly 3 жыл бұрын
Valuable information. I live in West Chicago suburb and waiting for my Bobcat miners. Thank you sir.
@user-rk3id2zf8c
@user-rk3id2zf8c 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I think you should inform people about the different frequencies of the antennas which are different depending on your location
@EdgarCardoso1983
@EdgarCardoso1983 3 жыл бұрын
the frequencie changes to europe?
@danieladeac6090
@danieladeac6090 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdgarCardoso1983 dont think so but the model of the miner yes, for Europe youll need EU 868
@Dasshniplle
@Dasshniplle 3 жыл бұрын
@@danieladeac6090 you have to buy an antenna for your region the miner is the same, the antenna is what creates the mhz frequency
@danieladeac6090
@danieladeac6090 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dasshniplle the miner comes with its own antenna so….what do you mean exactly?
@vanguard6937
@vanguard6937 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dasshniplle no, that is just plain wrong. Antennas are not what determines output or input frequencies. The transceiver modules in this case, is what generates the frequency
@dragonflame9615
@dragonflame9615 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he has timestamps so we don't have to waste our time and we can just get to the part of the video that has the info we want to know
@1MrLuar
@1MrLuar 3 жыл бұрын
My thanks so much for your help. I was think on buying antennas but didn't know which one to buy. And now I know 😎
@hookedonsound5670
@hookedonsound5670 3 жыл бұрын
Choosing the right quality of antenna cable is also important. The longer the cable the more dB loss. RG-58U is absolutely horrible and loses something like 3dB (half) in about 50' of length. If you can't get better grade cable than you're better keeping your miner closer to your Antenna. LMR-400 can go almost 150' (depending on frequency) before suffering the same signal loss. I can't stress this enough for outdoor installations.
@jch360
@jch360 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree, but would not recommend going more than 50 ft with LMR 400. Especially if you have any lightning suppression inline. Every connection has loss associated with it as well
@jasonowens7337
@jasonowens7337 3 жыл бұрын
Getting set up with a couple other guys on the east side of KC; just waiting on our miners!
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 3 жыл бұрын
have you got your miners yet ?
@keithstemen5835
@keithstemen5835 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this topic in detail. Great info & it's good to hear from someone who has used all of these antennaes
@rcram1
@rcram1 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on the antenna cable loss
@Sam-xf2cv
@Sam-xf2cv 2 жыл бұрын
What about trees? I live in rural area however there are trees that are all around. Do the trees obstruct the signal? Should I use 5.8 dbi or 8? And if it is 8 do I need to attach it high up on a tree?
@PastorBrianBetsworth
@PastorBrianBetsworth 2 жыл бұрын
I also would like to know what works well in rural, remote areas?
@dieselslade7240
@dieselslade7240 2 жыл бұрын
I'm debating the same situation. I'm thinking of getting a 5.8 or 8. Probably will lean towards 5.8 first. I want to get it up higher on my roof with a telescoping pole and put the miner in my attic.
@dieselslade7240
@dieselslade7240 2 жыл бұрын
Residential neighborhood. 1 level home. Houses are pretty dense.
@dominiczepeda9966
@dominiczepeda9966 2 жыл бұрын
when you are trying to get into helium mining and start binging his entire helium playlist
@jimmyispromo
@jimmyispromo 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@dominiczepeda9966
@dominiczepeda9966 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyispromo Hey man so I've already ordered 2 bobcats through the link and was wondering if the antennas are waterproof? Or do I gotta find a waterproof one specifically or if I get the 5.8dbi you have listed will I need to waterproof it myself?
@pickles2500
@pickles2500 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy please do some research on antenna gain, how can a 30cm antenna be the same gain as a 2m long antenna, physics states that they can’t. Manufacturers and resellers overstating the claimed gain on there antennas is one of the biggest cons in this industry.
@AnthonyHarwood
@AnthonyHarwood 3 жыл бұрын
So many people are getting scammed by these antenna claims. Fiberglass isn’t even a conductor. There’s a wire inside.
@Phone_Geek
@Phone_Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids.. but there's a few things. I personally designed the UK first major national IoT network, and have to say few things on antenna. The full wavelength one of 1.3m odd does give more power. We used procom 8dbi colinear omni. They are fine for rural and urban use. Real life the smaller the antenna the lower the gain. Add to that lots of yours came with super poor cables. The signal loss of those will offset the antenna gain. My advice.. get the highest gain antenna with lmr240 or ideally lmr400 cable. And not cheap ones from China, as what they advertise is often not the reality
@danielwilliams603
@danielwilliams603 2 жыл бұрын
Would these work in the uk?
@StudioMickee
@StudioMickee 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I would like to ask my miner is deployed on a way up high building, if uses a 8dbi antenna, wouldn’t it miss lots of lower antenna setup
@Phone_Geek
@Phone_Geek 2 жыл бұрын
@@StudioMickee check my vids to explain why not, but basically due to propagation effects, minimum path loss requirements and stuff you'd have no probs. If you were getting enough HNT you could also invest in a high gain antenna with electrical tilt. Also, a high gain antenna will increase your uplink sensitivity and uplink has greater coverage and so will witness more beacons
@StudioMickee
@StudioMickee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek right. With the poor cable and might loss some gain, probably it will drop to 6-7dbi
@fractaldesign7875
@fractaldesign7875 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the deeper network decentralized DPN network? Tactical investing did a video about it, and I would love your thoughts!
@TacticalInvesting
@TacticalInvesting 3 жыл бұрын
Sure did! Would love to hear his thoughts!👍
@rcram1
@rcram1 3 жыл бұрын
Yep.... I ordered.... Love the concept
@mattmursch9259
@mattmursch9259 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered ✌️of them!!
@jonaskimchoi8293
@jonaskimchoi8293 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered too. Really think this project got a bright future ahead
@BrianNadeau2
@BrianNadeau2 3 жыл бұрын
If you're mounting on top of a tall building in a city and trying to reach nearby hotspots that may be much lower, you would need a low gain not high gain antenna. The pictures you used were correct, but your explanation contradicted them. 3 dbi's do not go up then out, they have a wide dispersion angle from the antenna (both up and down). Flat terrain would be ideal for high gain.
@chrisvldz
@chrisvldz 2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for a house in a suburb with houses very close to each other? The antenna will be on the side of the roof, I have a window in my attic. The town is on the higher elevation compared to surrounding towns.
@BrianNadeau2
@BrianNadeau2 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvldz I went with the 12 dbi signal plus antenna on Amazon since I'm only dealing with elevation changes of a few hundred feet around me. If you have drastic elevation changes then you will want to go with the 5dbi version. Mount the antenna as high as you can, that will make a bigger difference than anything else. Good luck!
@jch360
@jch360 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianNadeau2 I live in OKC suburban area, very flat region. Very sparse tree cover at 40+ feet. I live in a 2 story house and was thinking mounting in my attic which is the highest point (40 ft ish)inside or outside (without mounting into shingles that is). I was looking a the 12 dbi, do you think that would be a good option?
@BrianNadeau2
@BrianNadeau2 2 жыл бұрын
@@jch360 Since it's flat I think the 12dbi would be the best choice. I live in DFW and went with that one for the same reason.
@bardarians
@bardarians 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianNadeau2 What about if your sailing on a boat?
@ArtisticGurus
@ArtisticGurus 3 жыл бұрын
The thicker cable is something like LMR400 and the other one may be LMR240. The 400 has substantially less dBi loss. Thanks for the video!
@CAGreve1231
@CAGreve1231 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have been producing mining antennas at the time of this video. Made in the USA and guaranteed to outperform everything on the market.
@ericreyes2409
@ericreyes2409 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. Great video and helps me understand what I need for my area.
@Gooostavooo
@Gooostavooo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Great content. Thanks for that. SO we can have them inside instead of outside? And what would be better: Having it a bit higher bit close to the wall, or a bit lower but in a more open space. Both in the same area of vuildings. Thanks
@fredrickugarner8278
@fredrickugarner8278 3 жыл бұрын
HI Jimmy new viewer great explanation of the antenna I have been using antennas for three years great info thank you.
@pestopapas5613
@pestopapas5613 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! Can you talk about how to aim your antenna in order to reach certain areas over others?
@WanderlustWonderscape
@WanderlustWonderscape 2 жыл бұрын
Monopole antennas are omnidirectional. But I suspect you are asking how to shape the signal so you can hack the system?
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 3 жыл бұрын
I got elevation so 8 dbi has been perfect for me, if you don't have elevation the stock antenna or a 3dbi works fine
@FuturesFinance.
@FuturesFinance. 3 жыл бұрын
I live on a hill u think I should get 8 ?
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 3 жыл бұрын
@@FuturesFinance. as long as you don't have too many buildings blocking your signal, 8 should be good
@parmorama
@parmorama 2 жыл бұрын
Great and very helpful explanation of these antennas, thank you. Do you need to have an extra power supply (signal amplifier) or can they be powered directly by a Nebra unit?
@ansidrop
@ansidrop 2 жыл бұрын
No. Just depower the unit and connect it. I suggest using LMR400 for cabling. Enjoy.
@blgo909
@blgo909 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this video was really helpful. Thanks for posting the links to the antennas!
@CalG1
@CalG1 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT INFO MAN!!Definitely helped me out!
@LazerWolfTV
@LazerWolfTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Great idea on the car mount I was just about to return my extra one. 🙌🏼
@Dylan-baerber3486
@Dylan-baerber3486 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to learn how to invest after listening to a guy on radio talk about the importance of investing and how he made $460,000 in 4 months from $160k, somehow this video has helped shed light on some things, but I'm still confused, I'm a newbie and I'm open to ideas.
@Jody8337
@Jody8337 2 жыл бұрын
Investing in stocks is a good idea, a good trading system would put you through many days of success.
@Tonyforeman659
@Tonyforeman659 2 жыл бұрын
It is possible to produce superior performance provided you do something different from the majority. However most of us tend to pay more
@Dylan-baerber3486
@Dylan-baerber3486 2 жыл бұрын
@Robin Vanessa Do you trade on your own?
@Dylan-baerber3486
@Dylan-baerber3486 2 жыл бұрын
@Robin Vanessa That's impressive. Are you giving her your money or the money stays in your trading account? What's really the idea behind copying trades.
@Dylan-baerber3486
@Dylan-baerber3486 2 жыл бұрын
@Robin Vanessa Is her service available outside of the US? As her broker is registered in the US.
@davidwatts5752
@davidwatts5752 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks your video answered most of my questions. The 3dbi works like an umbrella but does anyone know the estimated hight that the signal pushes upwards for 3db and 5.8dbi?
@dracojeff9770
@dracojeff9770 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, thanks for all the awesome videos.. May I ask you will be doing any video on helium staking and what's your thoughts? Thank you.
@DailyDose2Inspire
@DailyDose2Inspire 2 жыл бұрын
Lower dbi on a dipole antenna is more spherical but will not reach far distances. Higer dbi dipole will pick up farther... what you need is a few 915 mhz crosshair antennas. 4.. one facing north, one south, east and west. 115 degree beam@ 10dBic x 4 and you will be money, literally and be able to reach out 20 miles easy.
@Platon9112
@Platon9112 3 жыл бұрын
You are the reason we are getting miners
@elliottmabe8573
@elliottmabe8573 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the knowledge jimmy5 I hope that I can get a setup like that soon sir
@jayjenkins6021
@jayjenkins6021 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful vid. My miner is on the way and I am building an antenna rig. I am in an almost ideal situation at the edge of city, fairly high. I'll be the bridge between two congested areas. I have high hopes....thankz for your help.
@bluenetmarketing
@bluenetmarketing 6 ай бұрын
Jimmy - Great video! Do these antennas still work with both of the newer Helium indoor and outdoor wifi hotspots as of 2/18/24.
@MrSilver708
@MrSilver708 3 жыл бұрын
Best video on antennas I've seen yet thank you
@PeymanSayyadi
@PeymanSayyadi 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend the attics for the antenna placement? if yes, which one of these models are best?
@giddotv4804
@giddotv4804 3 жыл бұрын
can i put that over my roof? what kind of cable does it uses?
@mindsofgreatness
@mindsofgreatness 3 жыл бұрын
Grea info Jimmy! Liked and subscribed, just got my sensecap m1 and syncing up right now
@GeekonMySleeve
@GeekonMySleeve 2 жыл бұрын
You answered so many of my questions, thank you!
@dariosalischiker1999
@dariosalischiker1999 2 жыл бұрын
The "short 8 dBi" is actually a 3 dBi antenna. Antenna gain is proportional to its length. So don't trust if someone claims certain gain with an antenna significantly shorter than other antennas with similar gain.
@jamiemsorenson7426
@jamiemsorenson7426 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You did a really great job explaining all the antennas. I am looking into purchasing a new antenna, do you have any recommendations based on changes over the past six months?
@jameyjeffords5631
@jameyjeffords5631 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to attach more than 1 type of antenna to a helium hotspot….like a 3 dbi and a 6 so as to get better general coverage
@tbates7053
@tbates7053 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing.
@labman27
@labman27 3 жыл бұрын
Make that 3 of us because that would be awesome that way you have the benefits of each antenna. I am going to guess no though because I think Jimmy would have suggested that in the video.
@Mattacking
@Mattacking 3 жыл бұрын
@@labman27 pretty sure I read somewhere it doesn't benefit at all and in fact decreases results due to dbi loss in the splitter or whatever
@labman27
@labman27 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds totally logical. Otherwise buying several antennas that have different range and radius. Would be cheaper and easier then getting multiple miners.
@KO13199
@KO13199 3 жыл бұрын
Power would decrease but I wonder if a signal booster would work in line 🤔
@realdbrown
@realdbrown 2 жыл бұрын
great video thanks for being so thorough and putting us on GAME
@holdentodd4449
@holdentodd4449 2 жыл бұрын
this vid does actually heklp a ton, thx
@petrobull2560
@petrobull2560 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very informative!
@RENDAINFINITA369
@RENDAINFINITA369 3 жыл бұрын
JIMMY thanks for the video and all explanation one question when i buy outdoor antenna i must buy separet cable to reach the box!???
@0xfs7
@0xfs7 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with useful information. I' am waiting for my miners.
@DiMoraDiamond
@DiMoraDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just ordered the 4th one from RAK. I'm leery of going with the stuff on Amazon...at least with RAK I know its legit even if I pay more. I want to buy once / cry once and be done with it.
@The-tw3qg
@The-tw3qg 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. Do you think you can do. A video on the differences between using ethernet connection and Wi-Fi connection while using the bobcat miner?
@Lumencraft-
@Lumencraft- 3 жыл бұрын
Is there some benefit to the long 8dbi vs the short 8dbi besides just getting the antenna up higher? I mean is it going to transmit/receive better the way a larger TV antenna would?
@dylanrap9778
@dylanrap9778 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was bad to put your antenna in the window? Something about refraction even if the window screen is removed
@felten3487
@felten3487 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, first of all thanks for the awesome content you are creating and than to my question... i am from europe do i have to be aware of any frequency differences when i purchase an antenna ?
@uuuu260
@uuuu260 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I had a question regarding extending the antenna. I want to place the antenna on my roof, are there specs and specifics I need to look at for the wire to get more length so I can place the antenna on the roof while having the miner inside?
@joronharris4380
@joronharris4380 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. my brother and I was just talking about getting antennas
@devjaxvid
@devjaxvid 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in North Florida, no hills but alot of pine trees. Very few hotspots in my area. I have a two story house. Which antenna would be a good choice?
@portcitytrading6923
@portcitytrading6923 3 жыл бұрын
Good question
@mihalygulyas6394
@mihalygulyas6394 3 жыл бұрын
What if I connect my miner with an old TV antenna, which knows the same frequency range as these antennas, but it has more dBi, like 15 or more?
@zikismalls2459
@zikismalls2459 3 жыл бұрын
I need answers
@RubbinRobbin
@RubbinRobbin 3 жыл бұрын
It should work, try it and troubleshoot comparisons based on your zoning.
@y0usef-algeri0n
@y0usef-algeri0n 2 жыл бұрын
This work??
@kylewilliams8247
@kylewilliams8247 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. I was looking to buy the third antenna RAK 5.8 but when I went to purchase it asked me what connector type I need. I am not sure what I need. I live in California and have the bobcat. So what connector type should I select? Thank you!
@abedin1
@abedin1 2 жыл бұрын
RP-sma male
@donk3893
@donk3893 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a 7 DBI for Rak miner from amazon. I live in a large city (1 mill) , close to downtown, condo complex.
@RENDAINFINITA369
@RENDAINFINITA369 2 жыл бұрын
do yo think 6 dbi will do the same like 5.8?
@kkiiization
@kkiiization 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I live on the ground floor of an apartment, do you think I can mount my antenna on the window like you? Thanks for the video, very helpful
@VessupVisuals
@VessupVisuals 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my miner I'm hype!
@hookedonsound5670
@hookedonsound5670 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is great but fiberglass Antenna has nothing to do with better performance. The fiberglass provides better outdoor protection from corrosion of inner metallic cable and UV damage that plastic just can't measure up. Size is a factor up to a certain degree but it's mostly because of the antenna designed (or tuned) for the operating frequency. As far as price, I personally think it's just shipping costs built into price, only so much room in a shipping container after all. Otherwise I find the info spot on!
@futurecaptain8403
@futurecaptain8403 2 жыл бұрын
OK. I recently got my two bobcat miners. I placed one at home and the other at work which are about half a mile a part. Working space is on the 5th floor that would mean it will be great idea to upgrade the antenna to 5,8 dbi. My questions is what frequency should I choose for the antenna. Also which connector is for the bobcat miner. The other one is at ground level in a U shape building in the inside of that U. Should I stick with the stock one at 4 dbi or I should go for 3 and a little larger at size. Thanks Great videos!
@plavla021
@plavla021 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you on great video. Still have the dilemma about antenna type. Facts: 6km away from the city 80m elevation higher than the city with clear line of sight and mountain behind me. Should I buy omni or directional? Which gain? In case of omni, I am afraid that I will skip the city because of elevation difference and wandering if maybe to put it under some small vertical angle? Thank you in advance.
@lany_07gaming
@lany_07gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Nice info and great review for the helium miner.👍
@Joe-mr5ub
@Joe-mr5ub 3 жыл бұрын
Does the length of the antenna matter if they both are 8dbi ?
@paulbond3790
@paulbond3790 3 жыл бұрын
Just a point of information, the fiberglass is just the outside structure of the antenna. The antenna is generally just a wire that is inside the fiberglass. The fiberglass is RF (radio frequency) transparent. In the eyes of the antenna inside it thinks it is just floating in mid air. A fiberglass antenna mounted onto a fiberglass push up mast from mgs4u.com with a coax run of LMR-400 from the miner to the antenna would get someone up to a height of 38-50 feet high and blast that signal out. Good luck everyone on getting those HNTs!
@waqamehdi6171
@waqamehdi6171 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content as always. You recommend any websites to purchase antennas for living in the UK?
@phukka_feelings
@phukka_feelings 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Rokland 5.8dbi for my MNTD goldspot, thinking I will put it up in my attic, i am in the suburbs. I really hope I choose the right antenna
@TrendingPlays
@TrendingPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I installed a 12 dBi Antenna to my miner, but the miner never update it to 12 dbi. still showing default 4dbi.
@DarkSim712
@DarkSim712 2 жыл бұрын
I updated mine to 8 dbi and the height. There is a 50000 DC fee for updating, plus you lose your witness count. You will gain new witnesses shortly after if you have a proper setup.
@user-zj3yg2gs6d
@user-zj3yg2gs6d 2 жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте, какой майнер лучше?
@user-zj3yg2gs6d
@user-zj3yg2gs6d 2 жыл бұрын
На алибабе можно купить?
@HNTHub
@HNTHub 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure if I agree with your statements about the certain heights of a building depicting which Gain/dBi to use. My rule of thumb is always stick with a 3 dBi even on top of a tall building. This would only increase your chances of Line of Sight. Where as an 8dBi on top of a tall building would literally overshoot all potential witnesses in the close proximity. Also remember folks higher gain/dBi never means further coverage it only is a measure of strength that within those higher levels of gain you will be able to penetrate through more things like clutter/buildings. The only time I would use an 8dBi is in a preferably flat rural setting where I would need to possibly penetrate large forest areas.
@murkyturkey5238
@murkyturkey5238 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a radio signal right? It won’t overshoot, it will meet the other frequency
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 3 жыл бұрын
something to note.. over distance you actually loose antenna "power" so you want highly shielded cables.. with the shortest run to get it to the highest point in your house.. honestly drill a small hole in your bedroom cealing and put it in your attic right up against the vent.. or even better put it right out side the vent. but yea those super small wires will loose gain by not being shielded, I dont know the exact math on that. but there is some calculations you can do.
@notforgottenluna6686
@notforgottenluna6686 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, Thanks for this video, I have a question. I have bought a Bobcat miner 300. I finally received this after 5 months of waiting, but now I am dissatisfied with the range of the supplied antenna, this is 4 dbi and I bought another antenna yesterday through amazon, namely the :868 MHz (824MHz - 960MHz) Fiber LoRa Antenna 12dBi 86 inch for HNT Bobcat Miner, RAK2 Nebra Bobcat EasyLinkIn Syncrob, LMR400 40", RP-SMA Adapter, Omni-Directional. I myself live in Europe in the Netherlands, the houses are made of concrete with 3 double glazing and the landscape is flat in a large city of Rotterdam. My question is: did I do the right thing to buy this antenna and can I also put it inside my room? I live on three floors and have the option to place it on the roof. I also have to say that I don't know much about this either. That's why my question and maybe you have a better view. With kind regards,
@lyrazilvertong
@lyrazilvertong 2 жыл бұрын
hihi ik zit erover na te denken om dit ook te gaan doen snap je al wat meer? ik zou dolgraag beginnen met de juiste set up :D
@pentaeritrit
@pentaeritrit 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy! Thank you very much for this video. I would like to ask your thoughts about down below: We will soon receive our Bobcat indoor miner, and my friend is planning to upgrade our antenna to 20dBi (outdoor, fiberglass of course). We have contacted a local company who is producing a lot of different antennas, and they told us that they can develop it under 2-3 weeks and if it will succeed, they will start mass produce it (the price would be around $60 each, and we will be the first testers, and if it will work as planned, they will charge others of course more money for it except us). Just a few details about the surroundings: My house is about 6m (20 feet) tall, and we have a 16.5m (54 feet) tall steel pipe tower (pole) with lots of wireless antennas on top (we are running a small local intranet network), and we have plenty of space to put it on (according to the manufacturer, the 20dBi antenna would be around 2m/ 6.5 feet long). We live in plain terrain, the city centre is about 4km/2.5 miles away, around us there are 2-3 tall buildings and quite a lot of forest trees. What do you think about this? Will we witnessing a lot of other miners (depending how many will appear around us) and what would be the range of it? Also, do you think it is a bit overkill to go with 20dBi antenna? Thank you in advance!
@dlethe
@dlethe 3 жыл бұрын
Horribly bad idea and unnecessary. Laws of physics dictate it is going to be directional. Are hotspots all in same direction? If not go with a decent 5.8 that is going to be omnidirectional and save the money. Your height already gives you a fantastic advantage. If you did do the 20db, post name of the hotspot, I'm curious
@pentaeritrit
@pentaeritrit 3 жыл бұрын
@@dlethe Thank you very much for your reply. At the moment we are still waiting for the miners, and the antenna company won't start the producing because of the local law (it can't be more than a specific dBi or something like that), so we will use a MikroTik LoRa Antenna kit (TOF-0809-7V-S1) instead. The spread will be even around the city and the smaller local villages, once we will get them I'll post them here to check out.
@DiMoraDiamond
@DiMoraDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
You'll get throttled if your antenna gain is too strong. Your miner will reduce transmit power under Helium PoCv11
@good.badshah
@good.badshah 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy! Love your content! Question: I have a Bobcat miner coming in soon, and the place I'm setting it up in only has a skylight (no windows - it's the second floor of a commercial unit in a city). What's the best indoor antenna to use? *I might be able to set one up on the roof... in that case, what would be the best outdoor antenna? Thanks so much!
@bucharestred
@bucharestred 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would need minimum 20 meters of extension cable to reach the top of my building. Will such a long antenna cable be detrimental to performance.
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 3 жыл бұрын
you will loose dbi over the distance of your cable if its not shielded properly. so make sure you buy the proper cabling for any outdoor antenna
@reyradaza6327
@reyradaza6327 2 жыл бұрын
hi, i am from philippines i would like to buy bobcat miner 300 and nebra outdoor but i don't know which site to buy legit units. also how do i know which model that is supported in our country. i hope you can help me. god bless!
@caeg4
@caeg4 3 жыл бұрын
Hey @Jimmy Promo...if you're going to offer your links for the different antennas that you're obviously making affiliate commissions on, then you should also explain the different frequency and connector options. This can be very confusing for people that are new to mining. I just ordered the Rak 5.8 from your link and luckily the company notice my address in the U.S. and sent me an email stating that the frequency I ordered was not correct for the U.S. They also realized that I didn't order the correct connector type. Things that you should've have taken the time to explain. Just a suggestion.
@chosenscv
@chosenscv 2 жыл бұрын
Just about to do the same thing, and was going to ask what the specs were for the RAK antenna. Can you share what they sent you?
@caeg4
@caeg4 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael. Here is the US frequency 860MHz - 930MHz.The connector type you'll need is RP-SMA.
@MuncyRaps
@MuncyRaps 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the 5.8dbi antenna from RAK has different connector types. Can somebody tell me which connector type is correct for use with a Bobcat Miner 300?
@danthepumpkinman8199
@danthepumpkinman8199 2 жыл бұрын
N-type female to male is what goes to the bobcat outdoor enclosure
@MFreeman
@MFreeman 3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for this. Question: You mention "up" a few times for a few of the antennas, but does that apply for "down" as well? I live on a hill, but only about half way up. There is a hotspot below me about a mile a way as well as another above me about the same distance. Would an 8dbi work in this situation or should I stick with 5? Also, maybe its me but I don't see your description or links.
@madam1601
@madam1601 3 жыл бұрын
I am exactly in the same situation as yourself location wise so would love to see what reply you get 😊
@bgkob
@bgkob 3 жыл бұрын
According to that image around 2:53 spot, the higher DBI means more focused and straight signal line. Lower DBI the wider it gets. So for your situation somewhere in that 3-5 DBI is good and the signal does Go up and down a little bit. Check that image he put to see.
@armikatollo4449
@armikatollo4449 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was really informative💯👍
@THodl-ww9lk
@THodl-ww9lk 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best atenna advise video out ther! thanks. 5.8 it'll be 4 me I guess..
@randoMotions
@randoMotions 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Thank you.
@MobileRepairingTutorial
@MobileRepairingTutorial 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for share
@idresshimmo5664
@idresshimmo5664 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy Thanks for the informative video. I just received my 4 * bobcat devices. I live Dubai Can you check my set-up and give me advice if this should work or if I can improve it? Device 1: My house "Main" (villa in the city, my room is in the ground floor). Here ill place a device near the widow. Device 2: 5 to 6 kms away from "Main" , 8th floor building. Device 3: 3 to 4 kms away from device 2 Also in building on the 6th floor. Device 4: also 3 to 4 km away from device 2 in villa ground floor. Note" All of the devices are like within a range of 3 to 4 km except "Main" is like 5 to 6 km . What do you recommend we do? Should we stick to bobcat stock Antennas? What advice would you give us? Thank you in advance!
@randoMotions
@randoMotions 2 жыл бұрын
Minor feedback! Possibly some subtitles on the important notes!
@lorienmalone3497
@lorienmalone3497 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my Nebra up and and running it took maybe a day and a half to sync so far seems to be on track the first thing I did was dump my wireless router unplug for five minutes then connect you should be doing this once a week to keep it running smooth.
@dakotawagner3689
@dakotawagner3689 3 жыл бұрын
What does this do?
@lorienmalone3497
@lorienmalone3497 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakotawagner3689 Hello it keeps your service running smoothly ask your internet provider they'll tell the same remember when you have issues that's the first thing they tell to do 👍
@siggi9021
@siggi9021 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video !
@bradkiefer777
@bradkiefer777 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy. Great presentation. Question. How does temperature effect the antennas?
@mrtwister9002
@mrtwister9002 2 жыл бұрын
Yes what about range? For 3, 5.8, 8 dbi etc...
@sang3Eta
@sang3Eta 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks higher dBi is better but what actually happens is to get more range (dBi) you are narrowing the field of view. I can only express it like zoom on a camera.
@SharonMartinez
@SharonMartinez 2 жыл бұрын
I am in Ann Arbor. But, the southwest corner of Ann Arbor and it's a 5+ drive into the downtown and University area. In essence, I am in the country; however, I am not so sure what I need is straight out (although, that is good, too) because I have some rolling hills between my home and the central part of Ann Arbor. Also, Detroit is about 40 miles due east. So, I am waffling between a 5 and 8 dbi and I was wondering if one can use both antennae. So, for example, mounting the 5 dbi antenna inside on the window and if needed adding the 8 dbi on the roof when spring comes. From what I am describing as my position, which one would you suggest. I have my Rak miner on a windowsill and I am amongst a few houses spaced about 3/4 - 1.5 acres apart but also all two-story homes and therefore, from my windowsill, there are a few roofs to clear with whichever antenna that I chose. Any insight would be appreciated. Liked and subscribed!
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