I NEEDED to STOP Using Google Drive: Switching to a NAS

[@ScottCarrPhoto]

Don't forget...a NAS is not backup. It's storage. Remember to backup all your data.

[@danielkaranja7978]

Correct. In this video, it is presented as a replacement for Google drive while in fact, the two are more complementary.

[@MassStash]

Rule of 3

[@ernie548]

Nah, with good hardware raid you're pretty secure. I've worked at Cisco, yahoo, Google, others managing servers for many decades. We *rarely* need to restore something. Only if you are wishing to keep more than one revision.

[@iShootFast]

@@danielkaranja7978 they are both just storage targets. And I agree, I wouldn’t rely on either for my sole copy of data.

[@wyattliu3637]

2 Nas-es can be backup to each other, I could just rsync between them

[@_jerieljan]

I hope you have your security set up correctly if you’re planning to use your NAS anywhere. It’s another rabbit hole that takes time to understand for newbies, but it’s essential. Thankfully, Synology’s recommendations are actually pretty OK as long as you follow the practices, port forward responsibly and minimize port openings on your network, but it’s even better if you can complement it with a Wireguard-based VPN.

[@ryanmiller6887]

Jimmy you bought a DS1821+, the 18 means you can have up to 18 drives. the unit holds 8 drives and you can get 2 more 5 bay addons that plug into your NAS by the eSata plugs in the back.

[@Lordsheva80]

@InSomnia DrEvil that’s because he did not buy anything this is a product placement otherwise one should know what’s buying.

[@PitboyHarmony1]

The one thing not mentioned ... a NAS is NOT a backup. Its a primary file storage and use system, parity is not an actual backup. If something ... anything goes wrong with the unit or the area the unit is sitting in ... you have no other version of your files, which is a complete fail as a definition of a backup. Many approach this in different ways; - The front USB (or rear) of most NAS devices are for plugging in an external storage device to back up mission critical files occasionally. It depends on the size of the backup for someone like Jimmys usage. Either a truly massive backup drive (20+Tb) in an external enclosure, so he can backup RAW files, or a smaller drive (4 or 8Tb) in that enclosure to just backup finished video projects. Synology's system has settings just for all this. Or instead of an auto backup function, you can set it up so all you do is plug in this external (once a week or whatever) into the front USB, and it auto copies over any changes to desired folders you want backed up. - As a further step, truly ultimate critical mission files (agreements, taxes, paperwork ... or even a full copy of that external drive) can further be backed up automatically to Google drive, dropbox or any cloud service from the NAS directly. NOW you have a true backup system: a NAS for file system parity protection, an external drive on site to protect the NAS in case of complete NAS system loss, and an offsite backup of that, in case of a Satellite crashing into your house or a fire. Just make sure you memorise your cloud server user and password. People really need to understand that a NAS is NOT a backup. No real backup can be in the same box all together, the inherent risk is too large. One small glitch and everything is gone, thats not a backup.

[@goldcd]

Completely agree Although I'm not sure I'd be too happy relying on just a USB drive plugged into the NAS - if the NAS can write to that drive, then it has the ability to trash it - it's part of the NAS (I'm thinking of malicious stuff like QLocker).

[@techforever1970]

What if you have your NAS setup as SHR-2, for example, in cases of Synology? You have 4 drives but can only utilise 2 of them and the other 2 are a backup of the first 2. In that case would you consider a NAS a backup solution? In addition, if you have like 40TB of data, there's no feasible way to "backup" your data on your NAS, instead of buying like 20x 2TB T5 SSDs, or paying upwards of $500USD a month for Google Drive, which completely negates the need for a NAS in the first place (Most people get a NAS to save money on cloud storage), and the time required to backup 40TB to the cloud is just insane (it'll probably take weeks if not months with internet connections in some places). With RAID and SHR, I would consider a NAS a backup. Curious to hear what your thoughts on this are.

[@rogermuggleton8127]

@@techforever1970 OK then, you set up as SHR-2. Then someone breaks in and steals your NAS, or you have a lightning strike that fries it, or a water leak that drowns it. Or a fire, or a fault that destroys the drives. Ideally you need more than one backup, including one that's off-site, in a secure location. So if your main building burns down, you still have the off-site backup. Of course you need to be sure that the off-site backup is up-to-date and intact, and that takes a lot of work. Backup isn't easy, especially with 40TB of wanted data!

[@Lardzor]

I'm impressed how fluidly you swap between NOZ and NAZ pronunciations of NAS. I normally hear it pronounced NAS as in (nasty).

[@silentblackhole]

That's the correct way. The way he's saying it is horrible

[@Avruthlelbh]

@@silentblackhole Caring strongly about minor pronounciation differences is more than a little bit ridiculous, ngl, especially when it's an acronym with no official pronunciation.

[@bothworld2020]

great choice. I'm using this since 10+ years 2 Bay & 5 Bay Synology also I've sold 200+ Synology NAS. Some tips 01. Please don't forget spare hard disk 02. UPS in the event blackout 03. Buy plus series model & extend 2 years Warranty (Total 5 Years Warranty) 04. Don't forget 2FA for security reason (Two Factor Authentication)

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

UPS is a must for a NAS, Just need one big enough to enable an auto shutdown if there is a power blackout, Don't need a really expensive one. Get one that gives you at least a few minutes worth so the HDD's can spin down and turn off the NAS, Otherwise you could lose all your data.

[@gjforeman]

As a lifetime geek and lover of all tech toys, I've wanted a NAS for years. Now at 71, with a few extra bucks from the sale of a family property, I took the leap and got a Synology DS1821+ this week. Still waiting on my 6 10Tb disks, but I set it up in test fashion with a pile of old castoff drives from my hoarding closet. Working as a field service engineer for 40 years, I had some networking experience, but retiring 10 years ago has faded a lot of that knowledge. Currently working my way thru some old Network+ manuals from 15 years back, and plowing thru stone age concepts like NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, etc. But the basics are coming back to me. Planning to use this NAS to store lifetimes of scanned and digital photos, family documents, my CNC and 3D printer files,and my wife's massive hoard of digital sewing, embroidery, and quilting files. Also reserving the two remaining NAS drive bays for Synology's Surveillance Station. Sad commentary on modern life that I plan to outfit my front yard like a video studio. Thanks for a great video. I may just show it to family members who keep asking, "whats that black box on the desk for?"

[@jasc4364]

Only 10TB disks? There is one mistake I made when I started using NAS: buying too small disks. The 2 last disks I bought are 22TB disks. I always underestimated my ‘needs’.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

You made the same blunder I did with first NAS, NEVER go cheap on HDD capacity, harder to upgrade later on. I went with 3x8TB and added another 2x8TB a year later to fill 5 bay NAS, Still filled them had the NAS 3 years now. I should have bit the bullet and gone with 3x 16TB to start with and added the rest later, I would still have a few years of storage rather than now being full.

[@mikec2845]

if you don't mind me asking, what are you storing to fill that quickly?

[@watema3381]

@@mikec2845 That's kind of like asking what type of people you have hidden in your basement. A bit personal don't you think?

[@mikec2845]

@@watema3381 I think I prefaced myself well. No one is forcing him to reveal his deepest secrets. "I'm a professional photographer"...?

[@colbyboucher6391]

This is why I generally prefer UnRAID. Way it works is just: -Have a parity disk as large as the biggest disk in your array (or two) -Have something quick to use as a big storage cache for the entire thing (an SSD). Otherwise, you can grab whatever hard drive you want and it'll just work. One parity disk, you can survive one drive failure. Two parity disks, you can survive two. Always back up everything important and keep a spare drive lying around in case one fails. End result is easily expandable storage and a server you can also use for other stuff through Docker images and VMs, potentially. Plus, the lack of proprietary Synology stuff means it's easy to replace other parts.

[@colbyboucher6391]

@@mikec2845 Some people store tons of movies n' shit, keep all their games on there so they can grab them more quickly than downloading them from Steam again, etc. But yeah, I still don't get how you'd manage to use up more than *16 TB* of space unless you're storing tons of raw video footage.

[@wtf-worldtravelfoodie2382]

Best explained among all the other channels I've watched. Its like you specifially answered all my questions I had in mind. Earned a new subscriber here!

[@Byteable]

Even though i have unlimited storage on Google Drive (grandfather plan), I still use a NAS for daily storage access like video editing because it’s much faster than Google Drive when I’m local. For backup and access outside of my home, I use Google Drive that sync up with my NAS.

[@techster69]

is there an unlimited option? what does it cost?

[@neutrinolinux]

Exceeeeept... if your house burns down or floods or gets burglarized, and they take your NAS, so much for that. Always keep an offsite backup!

[@CGRealStudios]

Or if he was to work from somewhere else

[@SirRoxo]

Wonderful video explaining it all. I'm new to NAS, just bought a used 2-bay unit and experimenting from there. Pretty excited to see how it'll work out.

[@m.g2944]

I have the DS918+. After using it for the past few years I can honestly say it is one of the best purchases that I have made. I use it mainly for streaming movies with plex throughout the house and of course backup for other media. I have it connected directly to the router. With the combination on Nvidia Shield boxes in each room and great gigabit speed there are few things that I can't do. At this time, I am ready for the available expansion bay as I am running out of room. Here is a tip. The NAS will use the smallest capacity hard drive as the largest available. So, if you start off with a 4 terabyte and add a 6 terabyte next the NAS will use the 4 as the maximum space available if you are using Synology default backup option. Now almost 5 years later I am finally replacing the smallest drive to a bigger one to get the space that has been there all these years. In short, I have all 4 bays filled three have the same size drive and one has a smaller one. After replacing the smallest, drive I will finally have the full capacity of the drives I have put in. One last tip. If you are streaming movies over your network, make sure your HDMI cables going from the media box such as Shield are current meaning they are able to stream at least 4K video. Doing this will help fix any problems with streaming and audio/ video voice synchronizations. I thought this was the internet speed for a long time even the TV being super old (plasma), but it was not. Check your cables. Don't go to cheap and you will enjoy your NAS a lot more. Synology has a great website check it out before making any purchases decisions.

[@captiveimage]

Great intro into the NAS world, Jimmy. Like your style of delivery too. Subscribed! 🙂 I have two Synology NAS drives: A DS412+ that I bought in 2015 and a DS920+ that I bought a couple of weeks ago. My main reasource hog is my photography. Storing the digital images, initially scanned negatives and more recently the digital RAW files fresh from the camera was becoming problematic, hence the initial purchase. I've had a NAS box longer then that, but where the Synology DS412+ has proven to be incredibly reliable over the past seven years, my previous no-name brick failed catastrophicaly after only a couple of years and cost me a fortune to have a professional data-recovery firm rebuild the RAID and recover the data. I bought the second NAS (DS920+) a couple of weeks ago beause I thought my DS420+ was failing, but the actual problem was becasue I inadvertantly 'hot-swapped' a failing drive. DOH! I didn't loose any data but the NAS was two, three times a day giving me error messages that where similar to the broken drive I swapped out, hence my believing that the NAS itself was broken. Having bought a second device, however, swapping all the data from the old to the new without issue, I subsequently undertook a factory-reset on the the old unit, which fixed the percieved problem. It's now working perfectly again. The DS412+ is now one of two local backups for the DS920+, where the other is a seperate USB external HDD 'brick'. I use IDrive, an online cloud service dedicated to backup regimes, for my offsite backup. Ove the last seven years, I've had three drive failures Total losses of info - zero! Lessons learned: A) Don't cheap-out and buy no-name kit for your pressios data. It's not worth it. If you have precious data then buy decent kit with a reputation. There's two or three key players in this space, so there's alternatives. B) Do invest (time/effort/money) in instigating a proper backup routine. Use the 3-2-1 backup: 3: Create one primary backup and two copies of your data. 2: Save your backups to two different types of media. 1: Keep at least one backup file offsite. C) Don't hot-swap drives in a NAS that's not designed to offer that facility! Mine don't but some NAS units will allow hot-swapping of drives, so check that out if it's an important feature for you.

[@azwb]

Thank your for sharing.

[@Unamatrix01]

Great video on the benefits of using a NAS. I have been using a NAS since the first consumer level devices were released in the early 2000s by Ximeta called the Net Disk. I currently use the Synology DS218 Play+, WD PR210 Pro, D-Link DNS 320L and D-Link DNS-340L. Furthermore, I use my NAS servers to store my engineering designs, music collection, movie collection along with photos from my drones and cameras.

[@sunayama4650]

So this video was a wake up call. I'm starting up my own KZbin channel fairly soon (3D modeling tutorials). I thought about what I might teach and my target audience. Not once did I think about storage! I already use up a lot of storage space as is. Not sure if I'd need a NAS quite yet, but it's definitely on my radar now. Thanks, Jim!

[@manavgala2361]

You a max user or blender?

[@sunayama4650]

@@manavgala2361 Blender and Maya, but I prefer Blender.

[@notreallyme425]

You can get a smaller Synology like a DS920+ (soon to be the Ds922+) I use one as a home user and a tinkerer. I filled mine with four 2TB drives for enough space vs cost.

[@ProjectileGrommet]

@@notreallyme425 my 920+ fuckin rocks

[@ProjectileGrommet]

Can’t wait for the tutorials

[@hatuhsawl]

I’ve been toying with getting one of these bad boys, thanks for this!

[@vercolit]

I highly recommend using an old laptop or an unused/cheap one and install debian (or any other distro tbh) if you're starting out. It will teach you a lot, and it will make it obvious that servers are not "basically" computers, they are computers. You can do literally anything you want with it. NAS are great, don't get me wrong, but owning and managing your own little server is extremely rewarding and simpler that it looks like (you have to be open to learning new things though). It's a fun rabbit holw to fall into, as you can always make it more stable, more efficient, more deployable (if you care about that). Also, I highly recommend not installing any graphical environment and managing the server via ssh. But like any computer, you can do exactly what you want, and I find it a very enjoyable exerience

[@burnedmozzarella]

i myself have old celeron laptop that useless for years, i installed fedora on it and then install docker, smb, ftp, ssh, and many more stuff. hell, it so useful that i can host my own content, do downloads, makes it as bluetooth speakers and many more! and i use Nextcloud, Jellyfin for the frontend, and deploys it via docker

[@nadtz]

I'm a tinkerer so I built my own and went with Truenas but I have installed Synology/Qnap stuff for clients who don't mind paying extra for the ease of use. I'm a ZFS guy so that was important for me but for the 'average' user these are solid, just don't buy used unless you are willing to forgo warranty.

[@CrowleyRises]

I have the Synology 1019+ 5-bay with 5 WD 8TB Red drives in SHR-1. Then I use hyperbackup with an external 20TB drive to keep an additional backup. I don't keep all data offsite like I should but what I have is good enough for me. I highly recommend Synology. Its very easy to setup and use and you can do a lot with it.

[@bravotwozero535]

These are going to be essential for those travelling internationally. Border agents can take an image of any device you’re travelling with so it’s best to keep your data elsewhere and secure.

[@suitcafe]

I am A Synology geek. Set up an 8 bay for a relatives photography studio about 6 years ago. Knew nothing about them and did it as a hobby. The system came out great with photographers logging in via FTP and wedding video serving on large screens in studio to show prospective clients.

[@tirosc]

The pronunciation changes of "NAS" in this video is wild

[@WallaceRoseVincent]

If this is a commercial to sell me something ... it's still good. Thanks. I needed this.

[@GhostGuy09]

I love Synology been using it for some years now, had a WD NAS and wasnt the best for my Plex needs. I only use Plex with my NAS and mostly all the movies/shows are ones I own but I do still setup a backup for them in case of failure. I do love Sylology's SHR and found it better then the other options.

[@Avruthlelbh]

One of the biggest advantages is safety. If it's possible, it's best to avoid having sensitive data (or any non backed up data) on your main PC. If something happens and your data is lost, or you get ransomware and all your data is encrypted (or otherwise stolen), then you're pretty much out of luck. If your data is elsewhere, there's far less risk.

[@uniworkhorse]

Love how concise and well written this video was, props!

[@paulcurtis2779]

Hey, a NAS is very valuable for more than just Dollar value. I manage a facility that has 2 NAS's and 54 cameras connected to it. Just amazing how capable the NAS is for storing 30 and 90 day backup of all those cameras. Not difficult to use but does require some Tech knowledge. There are many features that can be added that this facility isn't using. Crazy stuff. Now I'm thinking about getting a 6 bay unit for my house. Just need to cough up a couple grand for all the equipment, drives and UPS. .

[@NitroDragon]

I have an 80TB Unraid NAS mainly for Plex and local computer backup storage. Currently 67.2TB used with a 14TB parity drive and 1x 14TB, 3x 10TB, 3x 8TB, and 2x 6TB drives for the data array.

[@carlosrincon6017]

Right now I find myself in the same situation of you at the beginning of the video. A small army of external drives driving me crazy. Now planning to transition to NAS. The video is very informative and didactic on that issue. Thanks for the advice, liked and subscribed, and btw, your girlfriend is very pretty.

[@Sjnaka]

wait so the redundancy is stored only in the 6TB drive? What happened when it fails?

[@jgirizarry]

I have a Synology RS819 rack mount with 4 4tbs Iron wolf in a RAID5. I do backup the NAS, using HYPER BACKUP every night and pay Synology C2 Cloud space as a secondary backup. My photos and docs are priceless to me and I can’t risky it. I run PLEX with my music and Movies, use Synology Drive, Synology Photos. Best purchase…

[@erickabuthia3213]

This is absolutely brilliant. I don't remember the last time I watched a video from beginning to end. You are the lecturer I wish I had. Hehehe!

[@JasonMeeks79]

I just got a buffalo 4 bay NAS off a sale site. Put in the 4 - 4tb iron wolf drives. Love it. One cool feature it has , not sure how others go about it, but buffalo's phone app allows my phone to back up to it, so all photos, videos, downloaded documents backup nightly to it. That's kinda big since they have been removing micro SD cards from phones.

[@cdwoods365]

Third video I've seen of yours and all today. I'm loving the content! Thanks for this. I've been on the fence about getting a NAS, you sold me. Thanks again Jimmy.

[@nikhilmankars5994]

Thank you for creating this. very informative video. Can you please suggest which brand is reliable for concealed wiring for certified CAT8 or CAT 7 cables? Scenario- I want to connect my NAS with CAT7 or CAT 8 ethernet cable to my deco mesh router which has a 10G port, also connect this router to my computer with the ethernet cable for faster access. I have already purchased CAT 8 ports for all access points including walls. I ordered FEEDUS CAT7 and CAT8 cables from amazon but it stopped working within 7 months. Now I am routing concealed cable through walls, hence looking for a reliable cable brand.

[@prettiwensmyling]

I counted 54 “NAS“ mentions (singular & plural) & once unabbreviated. So 55? 🤓

[@thomasbriggs4718]

I had an older NAS and a ds918+. The old NAS died so I added a Synology expansion box. Now I have 2 volumes that are mirrors. Even if one unit dies I will still have all my data. I did have an issue with the power supply for the ds918+. Synology support replaced the whole device. They earned my trust.

[@tedcalouri2694]

The cost effective nature of a home NAS depends on some additional factors you didn't cover. When you connect a power meter, how much power does it consume? Do you live in a cooler climate where the extra heat generated is a positive result or do you live in an area where the heat pushes your air conditioner? I decided against a home NAS precisely because the always on convenience meant constant power consumption as well as more heat to deal with in the warmer months.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

NAS uses little power, They aren't gaming rigs! Heat is a non issue, Once again they aren't like gaming pc's, It's why they use very low power processors for efficiency.

[@colbyboucher6391]

@@ShaneMcGrath. Also, modern GPUs are pretty good at not expending much power when they're idle.

[@joshuavega4563]

one question, what happens if you were transferring a file from another hard drive then suddenly lose power like a blackout, will it get corrupted? 😬

[@kennyherrington6542]

Always invest in a good UPS to ensure this scenario doesn’t occur.

[@musicelect]

I have a bunch of drives in some QNAP boxes all connected directly to my computer through a USB hub. Good for storage and can even handle playback. The best part is Backblaze will back it up for $7/month or $70/year. I currently have 50 TB backed up. You can’t do that with NAS because its not directly attached storage (DAS). Backblaze would charge over $3k/year for the same amount of storage when using a NAS.

[@the5gen]

I've got a QNAP 4-bay, I use that as my primary file storage and use Google Drive to backup some important files from the NAS.

[@garrykanter5773]

Nice video. What a great time this is that NAS and DropBox are available for people with all kinds of needs.

[@ernie548]

NAS is a valid as single version/revision backup if it's using hardware RAID underneath. With good hardware raid you're pretty secure. I've worked at Cisco, yahoo, others managing servers for many decades. We *rarely* need to restore something from *backup*. Only if you are wishing to keep more than one revision, and even file level snapshots (classic NetApp style) can easily hold many short term revisions.

[@colbyboucher6391]

It should be noted that most consumer-grade RAID controllers SUCK. Not as much as the "hardware RAID" on some motherboards, but still. Your best options on a home PC are actually Linux's kernel RAID, ZFS or UnRAID.

[@vitalis]

There is a thing called digital hoarders and they have a subreddit. People who go down this path and start backing up Wikipedia or movies that they will never watch again or are not even interested in need to step back and see if there is an underlying issue.

[@ghostbaleada]

I got a Terramaster F4-210 with 2g. Of RAM it was around 189 last year and decided to splurge the money on 4 20tb hdds and just use it as a NAS and the "home server" functionalities are on a cheap n100 chinese mini PC with CasaOS for docker that basically handles my media server, personal cloud, torrenting, dns and much more. Been really happy with my decision. I would like to get a second mini PC and move the media server there for better performance

[@MCbrothers35]

Google Drive or other Cloud Storage Services are more for share files with other and fast up and download speeds. Your Nas is limited to your internet provider speeds for online connection over nextcloud, owncloud etc.

[@MCbrothers35]

I have both a Nas for data that changes not so often and is not needed to be shared, like word sheets, prasentation files etc.

[@davidlp6510]

It would be nice if you could describe your Synology box in detail. It seems that you added a 10G card to it. I'd love to hear about it.

[@francoisgs1]

will you have a step by step set up , got a DS200J and dont believe i did set up properly . thanks :)

[@jamesminturn9866]

I am in the process of getting a Synology DS418 set up for at home use. This was a great video! I would love to see a video on the apps you have installed to allow for remote access.

[@DanielAbernathy]

Did you have to upgrade any of your home networking setup to take advantage of the 10Gbps connection?

[@dhailstones]

Thank you very much for this share, you did great covered all the best areas. Quick question - the machine is running 24 hours a day so is it loud and does it get hot?

[@HydraulicDesign]

Now I have a different situation. I've had a NAS for ages for backups, I don't have so much data or so many users I want to actually WORK off of one. But I'm increasingly wanting online access and collaboration, so that means...moving everything to Google Drive or OneDrive? Then paying for some sort of backup-of-cloud-services-backup that's also on the cloud? And the NAS is obsolete?

[@jblev736]

5:45 Curious as to why you wouldn't have transferred that SSD to an external HDD once the project is done? That way you saved the raw data and you can clear off your ssd

[@archangelgabriel5316]

I get 2.2GB/s using direct connect from 10Gbe on Synology to 10Gbe Nic installed on PC. Jumbo frames and separate subnet for the win.

[@cyberwasp461]

I've had a Synology DS920+ for about a year now with 4 16tb drives. Am hosting 5 PCs and 14 cellphones as backup. I also have a 16tb usb backup plus C2 storage that runs every day. Synology is one of the best companies for tech support also!! Only drawback is that this is my 3rd DS920 as the first two had hardware is!ues

[@rafraf23534]

How long did it take before your DS920+ had issues? I have had my DS920+ for about 3 months and going strong!

[@cyberwasp461]

@@rafraf23534 the first took about a month when i added a 3rd drive. the second was roughly 4 months.. it's just my luck not a flaw in synology. both turned out to be backplane issues.

[@rafraf23534]

@@cyberwasp461 gotcha! Glad it all worked out!

[@youngdannyaye]

sir, what paint color is your room? I like it

[@JessieS]

Synology needs to come up with a solution for photos and videos as robust as google photos with automatic uploads

[@NopWorks]

I wish they do but I doubt it. Even Google Photos-like products from big cloud & AI companies like Microsoft and Amazon are not even remotely comparable. I really want a viable Google Photos competitor; one that's as simple to set up & use and has an AI that's as good. Been looking for a long while, nothing even remotely comes close.

[@mandrue73]

If I have a NAS plugged into ethernet, and my pc is plugged into a separate ethernet outlet in the same house, do I then have direct connection to the NAS storage from my pc or do I need to connect them alternatively? I'm thinking about getting one, and was just wondering how that works :D

[@chrispage3803]

I have an old DS213j. with 2x 2TB WD BLACK. A month or so ago I had my first drive give me a SMART failure. Since then I have been looking to replace the unit. I am waiting for the 2022/2023 models to come out. When they do I'll likely grab a DS222+ or a DS422. When I do this however I think I'd like to add a Switch to my network. I currently have just my ISP (Bell HH 3000) wireless router and Mesh network with TP Deco units feeding my home. 10Gbe would be Overkill in my home but if 2.5Gbe and 5Gbe prices don't come down closer to the 1Gbe prices soon, It just seems like getting the 10Gbe might be the way to go to future proof everything. only problem is Synology will not have 10GBe... if we're lucky they MIGHT have the 2.5Gbe or multiple 1Gbe ports so that I can double speed. That all being said knowing best practices for a switch, ISP router, NAS with more than one port and a MESH network is going to be a project and a half for me. What Switch do you use?

[@LimbaZero]

I have 2 QNAP. one is for mainly "work" nas and another is for daily backups from it with version history. Raid is not backup. I think I need to do offsite backup for important data

[@keysncoffee7733]

Okay we have too many coincidences. I was setting up my new home office last time when I found your video of you doing yours. And I literally just bought a Synology setup last week too! 😂

[@Mr.BobsDog]

Google photos is such a breeze to find any photo you're searching for though by keyword

[@Babyboomer_59]

Hi Jimmy, I don't know if this is your area of expertise, I kind of wish I had found our video before making my purchase, anyway I just purchased the WD 12TB My Cloud EX2 Ultra Network Attached Storage - NAS through Amazon, only it's just a two disk housing at the price of $449. which I just looked is now $529 (I got lucky). The type of data is just normal home use, pst, file that all pc's can access via outlook, stuff like that. I can only hope I made the right choice. Speaking of data access speed, I always thought a usb 3.0 connection was faster than an ethernet connection but viewing your video and your test, that's not the case.

[@Faizaan_H]

Hey Jimmy now that you have a NAS could you do a video on setting up and your experience with Plex?

[@radoo86]

Very good video, what 10GB switch do you use?

[@Futurebloodline2010]

What does nas stand for

[@mygmail6053]

Network Attached Storage

[@Futurebloodline2010]

Nice karma transition plug. Smooth n short

[@TheForgottenWolf]

Weigh your options. NAS equipment can be expensive and as others have said is not a backup option, it's storage (Depending on the settings - Enabling backup will cost more and lessen your storage). Will the cost of this NAS exceed the cost of a monthly subscription to one of the various cloud storage services? Assume each hard drive may need replacing every 5 years or so (7 years for SSD). It *Might* be cheaper for you to rely on a cloud service if you don't need to pull massive amounts of data from the storage quickly.

[@CheDeLila]

@Jimmy Tries World ds620slim is the only ssd oriented that I have seen and I wanted to move to synology is it any option from them that I haven't found? mechanical hard drives are not an option, neither non synology.

[@bommaritohawaii]

How about using this for TimeMachine backups?

[@aalluubbaa]

What if my main use case it to be able to stream 4k videos from a NAS? Google photo is so slow for videos and it sucks that most mid to high end smartphones can shoot great 4k videos but when you want to view it on your TV or projector, it's 720p and looks like webcam footage from 2000s. Is there a solution for this? I just want to stream my videos in 4k real time.

[@DiegoArquieta]

So, instead of erasing that "junk data" as you mentioned, you prefer to spend money keeping it there collecting digital dust?

[@marylorenzo1904]

I am an average person looking to learn and storage is definitely important. Thank you for the video.

[@ognickea7180]

The joy of tech tube showing me stuff I didn’t know I need.

[@karlweb1]

Great video I shoot 3-5T a year Started back in the day with 512G a year then 1 T I am half way through my work year and my 5T drives are both almost full I need a solution badly

[@eveyoung3656]

Do you have an off-site backup strategy? Currently, I'm using Backblaze B2, but it's getting quite expensive as my data grows.

[@b3ans4eva]

Have you looked at Wasabi?

[@strikidbeast]

Jimmy, thank for the video. Have you tried your Synology for storing photos and using their Photo app?

[@mrmas001]

Please I’m looking for tutorial how to install it with 10gb please

[@yolamontalvan9502]

What about thieves breaking into your apartment?

[@smitty9398]

I have a Synology four bay.. and I use a Synology two bay as backup. Synology has really good software that I have running at night to replicate from my main NAS to my backup NAS.

[@FX_AnimationStudios]

hi... what 10Gbe switch do you have?

[@Flyingchef84]

You talk about ssd what is good brand you use ?

[@AsyrafAkira]

Honest question, if you install games / program in nas and use it as external hard drive, is it possible to run it? Not via ethernet but USB port that available on the nas itself

[@gager73]

Anybody know how Drobo stacks up against Synolog (or QNap)? I've been using Drobo for over the past 15 years and as much as I would love to say I like them, I really can't tell you the last time I thought about them except for when I noticed that I was running out of space and needed to upgrade a drive. Which was as easy as pulling the smallest drive out and slapping in a newer bigger drive.

[@phillvallace]

is this an ad? as it comes across that way. I was thinking of getting a Synology but after them starting to force users to use their hard drivers and not being able to use other brands, turns me of them & unsure on what solution to go with now for my storage needs/wants

[@colbyboucher6391]

Your two major options are TrueNAS and UnRAID. TrueNAS is a more "professional" operating system, designed around *extreme* reliability and data integrity far beyond the needs of individual people. It is very particular about what drives you put in your array (they basically all need to be the same drive, and expanding is a pain). But some people really want that, and it's all for the price of free. IMO most people are better off just using UnRAID. You need to pay once for a license, but in return you get a pretty cool setup where you can chuck whatever hard drives you have in there and it'll be happy. All you really need are a parity disk (or two) as large as your largest drive, and ideally a drive to use as a cache. If you ever want to use it as more than a NAS, you can use an SSD for the cache drive and run Docker images or VMs. And it's very easy to set up.

[@phillvallace]

@@colbyboucher6391 Yeah i was originally looking at building my own but PC parts aren't the cheapest here & availability is limited, for example the biggest case you can get here only has 4HDD bays. Originally when I build my current PC, I had the idea of being able to turn it into a NAS when I replaced it with a newer build but haven't replaced it due to PC parts being darer and my personal income being much less than 10 years ago. The positives i saw in something like a synology over unRiad or True NAS was the price, ease of use, a lot less power draw, less stress of the machine working not needing to trouble shoot issues with it as when i was looking into it a lot of users have issues with these systems & the hole point in NAS from my point of view was to decrease stress but yeah i might have to look into UNRIAD & TrueNAS again and see if that might be the way to go

[@maricel6470]

How long do external storage device last?

[@ShervinShares]

what about JellyFish LumaForge?

[@CreamPolo]

Got 16118+ and I do agreed with your take on NAS. Thank You

[@asdkant]

Being a linux user with a single machine I just did a ZFS array on the same box, but for a dedicated machine on the DIY route I'd recommend TrueNAS as the operating system. Anything less than ZFS as the filesystem is silly nowadays, given how reliable it is.

[@JimmyTriesWorld]

Nice to hear some good experiences with TrueNAS. I got an older PC laying around that could definitely use that kind treatment in the future!

[@PatrickBijvoet]

I bought the Synology DS1522+ a few months ago as a private user. And I love it. I first had two 12 TB drives in SHR. Then three. And today I bought my numbers four and five12 TB drives. I experimented with it. Editing not yet, however VM Linux and Windos. (and removed it again). I have backuped my Macs via Timemachine to it and my Game PC via Active backup for business, and made my photo and film library. In a few months the daugther of my sister is getting maried. We are going to make a folder with a QR code, so guests can upload photo's and video's to it until a certain time after the wedding, so I can give them to the happy couple. I wanted to share a large file with a friend. I just made a downloadlink for a day. Etc, etc, etc. It is such a powerfull tool. Did I need it? Probably not realy. Was it worth it? Absolutely. But I must say, I like to experiment. Thanks for your nice video. And I dod not want to start over to count the times you said NAS. But based on 6 times in a minute, it would be around 84 times.

[@GreenCinco12Official]

For beginners I have to say... this video is kinda bad. First you bought (or got sponsored) one of the most overpowered synology consumer nas that are out there. Quick explanation for Synology "mouthful" naming scheme: DS means Disk Station which is their consumer line-up. The last two numbers is the release year of the unit the other numbers (the first or the first two) stands for the maximum supported drives of the unit. Everything (if anything) after those numbers means how powerful the machine is (eg. J, +, play, xs, etc.) where + is the second most powerful rating. So your DS1821+ is a consumer (Desktop) DiskStation that supports up to 18 Disks (8 in this unit + 5 per expansion unit (DX, DiskStation Expansion)) released in 2021 with the "power rating" +. More explanation of Synologys naming scheme can be found online if anyone is interested. I think it is pretty easy to understand if you read into it. I think this is pretty overkill for the normal user. SHR, while only useabel with synology, sound pretty good for non-tech people. Second some explanation is wrong. The biggest IMO is this: At 8:20 you say that "CMR drives do better in a NAS than regular hard drives do" and while it is somewhat right it's wrong. CMR stands for Conventional Magnetic recording and IS (or at least should be, otherwise you should go out and buy something else) your "regular" hard drive. The other type is "shingled magnetic recording" and does pretty much what is says: it has shingled disks where your data is stored and because of that it is pretty slow. Also third: as others already commented a NAS is not a real backup. It sounds like you suggest people switch from Dropbox, Google drive etc. to a NAS but now you have to look after your files. If (in your case) two drives fail - which is possible with multiple drives from the same manufacturer at the same age - you lose all your stuff. So it would be better to use your NAS for this quick and easy access to your files (even without internet) but still have it uploaded every night or so to one of the cloud providers. This way if multiple drives fail or even worse a fire or a flood in your home you still have everything somewhere else. A (more or less) 3-2-1 backup strategy.

[@machdaddy6451]

Very thorough explanation. I just wished you would've shown the installation and configuration.

[@pendragonscode]

HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE "NAS"?

[@AdamKyleAnderson]

What's a noz ?

[@mrsahilbawa]

I like how you were touching the NAS 😂😂😂

[@vignesh306]

I was worried if it's gonna be turned on

[@teaearlgrayh0t]

And that is my point of general simplicity of professional youtubers. I am running NAS for past 20 years. My mum lives with me, and she needs some ethnical TV Shows and movies. It was way before streaming. So, I would download it, and present. NAS was OK 10 years ago, now you can stream all my mother can watch. In my country, I get a gigabit internet, so no need for local storage.

[@PROgaming-fm6yu]

OK! I've just invested into a NAS for my photo business and it's driving me nuts! I cant seem to work out how to even get my library into my NAS!! Im a complete noob t this!

[@josephtannenbaum8696]

I had two DNS323's and out grew them. I now have a RaspberryPi 4 with a drive bay of 4 drives and a drive bay with two drives. The four bay has two 18 TB drives and two 4 TB drives and the two bay has two 2 TB drives. You noticed I have two of each size? One is data, other is backup. I have scripts on the Pi to run backups every night. The Pi is gibibit ethernet and my modem/router is gigibit, so they are very fast even moving movies from desktop to the drives. No, can not share on WiFi, or when away from home, but I'm secure in that nothing that is not replaceable is on my different computers. If it is important, it goes the the Network drives.

[@TheCyborgCast]

Having NAS is great for storage when a large amount of content renders video and recording and many more. The best part is it is one -time payment and all you have to pay is the electric bill for it. But... once you slowly need more storage eventually your going to need a bigger server.

[@watema3381]

Which is why it's important to bite the _boolet_ and buy the biggest reliable hdd's that you can find / afford, because it will get *soooo* much harder to upgrade and offload existing data later

[@colbyboucher6391]

Which is why I like to use UnRAID. So long as your parity disk is at least as big as your biggest HDD you can just chuck whatever in there and it'll be happy.