Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have to add that, for a non-English speaker like me, your cadence in speaking and your pronunciation help a lot to understand what you are saying. Good job. 👍
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
none of what you showed worked at all, web UI is a complete mess, when i try to create lxc container, the next button greyed out, NO MATTER what i do, i have given it hostname/passwork, even found pub rsa key file to paste in, NOTHING works. "next" simply CAN NOT be clicked to proceed.
@alphenit6 ай бұрын
I hear: "Hey everybody...." and I click like! Jim's Garage should have 100k subscribers
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks 👍
@golvellius68553 ай бұрын
The way you explain things is top notch bro thank you
@Jims-Garage3 ай бұрын
Thank you, appreciate the feedback.
@SchecterWolfe6 ай бұрын
The proxmox forums helped me a ton when I was manually setting up a sandbox container from a custom buildroot image
@romayojr6 ай бұрын
excellent easy to follow guide as always. i would be interested to see you setup k3s using lxc
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, it's coming
@Kevin-oj2uo6 ай бұрын
I love this Proxmox videos! Keep up the good work!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I have a few more to tick off at least
@cabbagehead88156 ай бұрын
Didn't think I'd be learning from a muckle (MCC) rider! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, see you on the road!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks! Keep it shiny side up 🚲
@user-tu3bi5vs6x6 ай бұрын
Started watching on the OPNsense setup video and it was very helpful, thank you! I've been wanting to setup Jellyfin in an LXC for GPU transcoding, but it seems like a hassle. Would love a video on it like you mentioned!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I might do it next. Watch this space.
@markandrow40106 ай бұрын
Thank you James, As always, excellent and with comprehensive explanations.👌 👍
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Very welcome
@s0litaire2k6 ай бұрын
LXC is very useful. I've ran both containers and VMs using LXC (yes including a windows VM) issues is that it's it's great for creating and testing systems locally but it's intentionally a total pain in the posterior to "expose" a container to the network. I did use a rpi3b running alpineOS to run a few basic containers I could access from the internet to test things.
@elias97256 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to this video, your explanations are great!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I hope it was helpful
@sagarsriva6 ай бұрын
Thanks. Great video
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@malzbier13396 ай бұрын
Very good, as usual 👍🏻.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback
@wusaby-ush6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@philbos62326 ай бұрын
This is so scary every time I’m working with any product, Jim comes around the corner and makes a video about it. Superb! I would really want a guide to install ansible awx on a single node k3s LXC without much hassle, is this even possible? I tried multiple guides with no luck
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
K3S is possible on LXC, I'll have a look at it.
@blender_wiki6 ай бұрын
Why do people always think in "better" or "worse" terms? Please do not implement clickbite titles on your channel. Things are just different, something can be more efficient in some kind situations but not in certain use cases. Besides this good educational video, I will share this to my students. 🙏🙏
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. The title is reflective of a question that is frequently asked and I do believe there is a better choice in every situation, hopefully I called that out. E.g., internal Vs external, resources, performance.
@jerrinho235 ай бұрын
excelent!
@Jims-Garage5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@MaxLeeIT6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video and the lovely face
@YokoOHHNoo6 ай бұрын
I recently set up an dedicated game server for the game Enshrouded in Proxmox, alas it's pretty resource hungry. My first try in a VM was very disappointing. I have an Ryzen 4300G running my homelab and i gave the VM 8 vCPUs (so one for each physical thread) and 16 GB RAM. The gaming experience for one connected player was O.K'ish but for three ore more it was unusable. I then switched to a (privileged) LXC also 8 vCPUs but only 8 GB RAM (the game is more CPU than memory hungry). The gaming experience is much(!) better. Now gaming with 3 or 4 players is possible. Nonetheless the Enshrouded dedicated Server is pretty bad performing it consumes almost half of my Homelab which was not the case with other game servers like Valheim e.g.! But yes there are performance gains when using LXC in such "extreme" situations!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
That's great feedback, thanks. Definitely something to consider if you're looking for high performance.
@adolfolopez1266 ай бұрын
Yes do a video on igpu passthru
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
It's on the way
@Felix-ve9hs6 ай бұрын
11:24 AFAIK your LXCs will use the swap space of your Proxmox VE host, if it doesn't have swap set up, the LXC will likely get killed trying to allocate any swap.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Good to know, I'll have to experiment. Thanks for the comments.
@fedefede8436 ай бұрын
Nice! My only concern here is how the lifecycle is. When using docker I have watchtower for many of my containers and for the critical ones it is just a manual docker compose pull (or the Portainer GUI). Let's say a move them all to individual LXC containers. Now what? I've seen many of these videos, but no one addresses this important fact. Cheers!
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
No, install docker on LXC. Use docker as normal
@fedefede8436 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage that is ok. That could be the best of both worlds. I have read different opinions on installing docker on LXC, but I guess it is a matter of trying it. Do you use it like that or have docker on top of a VM? In my case if I am going to have most of my services in a single environment, it could be just a VM. Since I am not splitting out too much else, why bother. I haven't reached the kubernetes world yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Cheers
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
@@fedefede843 I predominantly use Kubernetes on VMs and have a solo docker VM. I am likely to shift over to LXC in the near future as I want to share my GPU with all containers. I'll do a video on the journey.
@ziozzot6 ай бұрын
I woud like to see K3s on LXC
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
It's in the works!
@zyghom6 ай бұрын
I have started with Proxmox with VMs only as it was much easier to work with (for the newbie like me). But now, I move almost everything to LXC. Lighter but most importantly: I feel much better with IP management - rather than assigning MACVLAN in docker (in VM). Sharing the storage sometimes is an issue but once you know how to it is easy. But still there is a place for VMs there.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, both have strengths and weaknesses. As always, a blend is usually best.
@monish05m6 ай бұрын
Amazing guide as usual. One question, is it possible to pass through individual disks to an lxc, not just mount point, the entire hard disk?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Yes, albeit I think we need to be careful with wording. My understanding is that you're giving the LXC access to the device, not passing it through like a VM. As such, the host can see it as well as other LXCs if you allow it. This is how I'm able to share a single GPU with 3 LXCs.
@monish05m6 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage i was also able to pass through my nvidia gpu to lxc using cgroups in the .conf file, the thing is the same method would not work for disks for some reason, the disk just wont be listed under /dev/disk/by-id/ , if you had any luck please pass the knowledge.
@hotrodhunk73896 ай бұрын
I've overtime moved all of my VMs to be LXC. They just do everything so quick. Boot in seconds so small easy to back up and migrate.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Yes, they're extremely performant. It's a great benefit.
@Felix-ve9hs6 ай бұрын
1:09 This is true, however, it is possible to run a Linux userland in a FreeBSD jail :^)
@samsonsamson98206 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. How to create an LXC container with docker or k3s?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Docker , just install as I did. K3S, coming soon
@denniskluytmans6 ай бұрын
Docker is easy, docker swarm is the problem with nfs shares
@dzmelinux77696 ай бұрын
Good video, as much as I know another difference is that VMs restart automatically after migration (cluster) and LXC container have to be started manually, right?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
I'll have to check. I know they can auto start on creation.
@peteradshead23836 ай бұрын
One problem you may hit if you are on AMD and passing hardware acceleration to jellyfin or frigate , to pass your GPU with PCIe passthrough you blacklist nvidia and radeon , amdgpu drivers etc. So stopped the hardware acceleration from the GPU until I removed the radeon & amdgpu from the blacklist.
@pabloszi6 ай бұрын
Hmmm... With LXC you don't need to passthru PCI-e devices. You can share it between your desired LXC, Proxmox OS and other LXCs you want.
@peteradshead23836 ай бұрын
@@pabloszi you don't , BUT if you do pass a full PCI-e device to a VM don't disable the inbuilt iGPU at the same time. I pass iGPU hardware encoding / decoding to a Frigate & Jellyfin LXCs , but have a VM with my RTX2070 super to use for tdarr.
@pabloszi6 ай бұрын
@@peteradshead2383 That's right. It works as you described with VM, but LXC isn't VM. LXC is Linux container, and you can't passthru PCI cards to LXC. Instead of this you can share devices between Proxmox host and LXCs.
@meandthemrs8966 ай бұрын
Would you consider doing a video on utilising LXC container for something like Radarr using the helper templates - I tried this but had lots of issues with access rights writing to shared storage ?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
Probably not as KZbin isn't a fan of those topics... I suspect it's a simple case of permissions though.
@meandthemrs8966 ай бұрын
How about making a shared drive available to a container. My issue is being asked multiple times without a good answer 😊
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
@@meandthemrs896 check here for a cifs example - forum.proxmox.com/threads/tutorial-unprivileged-lxcs-mount-cifs-shares.101795/page-4
@meandthemrs8966 ай бұрын
Tried it all commands worked but still read only. I think I have an issue making sure the LXC uses the right user account when running - it does mention username depends on application
@afnieves6 ай бұрын
Can you show a video on the iGPU and jellyfin. I have this setup on a NUC got all the configuration working but jellyfin cant transcode.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
It should be exactly the same but 128 instead of 129. Have you tried that?
@afnieves6 ай бұрын
lxc.cgroup2.devices.allow: c 226:0 rwm lxc.cgroup2.devices.allow: c 226:128 rwm lxc.mount.entry: /dev/dri/renderD128 dev/dri/renderD128 none bind,optional,create=file lxc.mount.entry: /dev/dri/card0 dev/dri/card0 none bind,optional,create=file lxc.mount.entry: /dev/fb0 dev/fb0 none bind,optional,create=file lxc.idmap: u 0 100000 65536 lxc.idmap: g 0 100000 44 lxc.idmap: g 44 44 1 lxc.idmap: g 45 100045 61 lxc.idmap: g 106 103 1 lxc.idmap: g 108 100108 65428 @@Jims-Garage
@afnieves6 ай бұрын
Yes I have@@Jims-Garage
@williambravin12543 ай бұрын
Hi Good video and teaching. Question (maybe a leter video) can i create 1 lxc and install 1 instance of docker and within this environment have multiple applications such as pihole and tailscale? or will i need to make seperate lxc?
@Jims-Garage3 ай бұрын
Check the next videos 😁
@743571756 ай бұрын
Excellent. Question: how much thinner is an LXC vs a VM? That is to say, if a Debian install as a VM is X megabytes, how much smaller is the LXC install?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
About 20x smaller
@peteradshead23836 ай бұрын
Well I have a SMB server with Webmin on 81k of ram , netboot-xyz on 81k , and jellyfin on 374k , so most programs only need 512k or less , try running a running jellyfin on a 512k VM .
@NFvidoJagg26 ай бұрын
I've run the turnkey-gitea template and I've found the they tend to leg behind in software updates, by a few versions.
@2bitninja2806 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Solaris Zones
@InsaiyanTech6 ай бұрын
Could I run the a arr stack on a lxc container and docker with trafik and stuff like you did with the VMs in the previous series?
@produKtNZ6 ай бұрын
If I wanted to spin up a wordpress website, hosting around 80-400 gb per month, VM or Container ?
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
VM, better isolation IMO
@InSaiyan-Shinobi6 ай бұрын
So can I run docker in lxc and do the same setup you do on a vm setup like for jellyfin radar sonar and so on for it? But would you want to do on a lxc this way since I heard it’s not as secured as doing it on a VM
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
That is what I demonstrated, Jellyfin on Docker with GPU passthrough in a unprivileged LXC.
@InSaiyan-Shinobi6 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage oh ok I just wanted to make sure so ima just follow this thanks 😊
@---GOD---5 ай бұрын
Jump to 5:00 You're welcome
@Jims-Garage5 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks 😂
@ierosgr6 ай бұрын
At 7:58 you ve mentioned you were going to be using a non root user. At 13:25 you re logging in as root.
@Jims-Garage6 ай бұрын
I'm root on the LXC, but in a separate namespace on the host. If privileged you're using the host namespace which is bad. You can create another user on the LXC like any regular Linux distro
@ierosgr6 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage The other way I thought of this was like the root inside the LXC is alias of another user of the host which automatically generates upon LXC creation. It just happens to have the root name.
@codescholar73452 ай бұрын
Hi there! How can I get an unprivileged LCX with a GUI setup? Thanks!
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
You'll need to deploy a desktop image and then use a remote desktop application. It doesn't give a great user experience though (I find Linux remote desktops not great with Windows).
@codescholar73452 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage Thanks for the reply! In your 1 gpu 4 LXC it seems like you have a GUI LXC. Basically I'd like a web browser in their own container. I have this now but use VMs. What if I deploy a desktop image to the LXC and then use a remote desktop application like spice or something? Or do I need to use a VM to deploy multiple browsers like I'm doing now (seems kind of inefficient)? Thanks!
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
@@codescholar7345 you could deploy chrome in docker if you prefer github.com/browserless/browserless
@codescholar73452 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage Okay, I'll check it out! Would the docker containers be unprivileged and secure? How did you get jellyfin running in the LXC containers? I watched the video, I'm wondering if I missed that part. If you have time I'm also wondering about a Proxmox system with a 5950x, 3090 and Intel Arc a380 or a750. Could I passthrough the 3090 to a VM and try to split the Intel Arc (running as the main GUI) between containers or VMs. I tried passing through the 3090 to a VM but since i dont have integrated graphics or a second graphics card the VM would not start. Thanks!
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
@@codescholar7345 jump on Discord, all of this is doable.
@loermik5 ай бұрын
lovely face 😄
@typingcat2 ай бұрын
I don't know why but so many Englishmen seem to have this exact voice.
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
Interesting observation. I'm from the middle of the UK originally and nowhere else in the country sounds like that to me. I now live somewhere very different 😂
@Mr_nah6 ай бұрын
Is there a way to upgrade an OS in a container? I don't think do-distr upgrade works
@brunekxxx916 ай бұрын
It does
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
none of what you showed worked at all, web UI is a complete mess, when i try to create lxc container, the next button greyed out, NO MATTER what i do, i have given it hostname/passwork, even found pub rsa key file to paste in, NOTHING works. "next" simply CAN NOT be clicked to proceed.
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
Have you enabled virtualisation in the bios?
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage i am not sure what you mean by that, you mean enable it from the proxmox web interface? not the host machine right? how exactly should I do that? everything else was followed in this video, and proxmox was up to date through ssh before any attempt to create new container
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage was there anything to do with the cli ? that i ssh into proxmox host, or you are purely speaking about its web UI
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage if you either give me instruction, or link to the doc, i will read it, other than that, this is what happened, and i followed every steps of your videos and proxmox is all up to date
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
@@Jims-Garage wait i know, i was creating vms on the same machine, vms are easy, and it works, its just sluggish so much, so yes, i believe the virtualisation IS enabled
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
this is the worst i ever seen, why do you skip so many details?
@Jims-Garage2 ай бұрын
RTFM?
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
none of what you showed worked at all, web UI is a complete mess, when i try to create lxc container, the next button greyed out, NO MATTER what i do, i have given it hostname/passwork, even found pub rsa key file to paste in, NOTHING works. "next" simply CAN NOT be clicked to proceed.
@eygs4932 ай бұрын
none of what you showed worked at all, web UI is a complete mess, when i try to create lxc container, the next button greyed out, NO MATTER what i do, i have given it hostname/passwork, even found pub rsa key file to paste in, NOTHING works. "next" simply CAN NOT be clicked to proceed.