THE FINALS SEASON 4: Buffs, Nerfs and Reworks Preview

[@TheBestcommentor]

Uh, did demat get a huge buff? You show it taking out like triple the area as you're asking if you missed anything.

[@Jinko_]

LMAO I literally did NOT notice while playing or editing. But yes it has been buffed, I learned it from the comments.

[@antinuit]

@@Jinko_ yes but they've already changed SYS$Horizon! They added layers to the buildings. Felt terrible like trying to demat through Las Vegas 😤

[@joelgonzalez470]

@@antinuiti noticed this, used to be the best map for delat now it takes 3+ to get through a wall

[@sincerelyface]

@@antinuit its every map and it feels horrible

[@honestwarmonger4662]

Me seeing the riot shield go from horrible bad to moderately bad “ my time has come”

[@Jinko_]

It improved way less than that but I get your point

[@polartest122]

literally didn't change lmao "time to pull out good ol reliable" lol RS mains looking for any reason to use it despite probably using it all the time anyway is too funny

[@orangejoey1459]

@@polartest122 I have never been so offended by something I 100% agree with. I feel so back even though all that changed is not needing to quick melee a heavy lol

[@honestwarmonger4662]

@@Jinko_did they fix the fire glitch for the shield

[@Jinko_]

@@honestwarmonger4662 Apparently not

[@TheRealShiba]

wow, 500 hp AND a cooldown? that's a pretty huge nerf... not worth picking anymore

[@psilo5623]

baffling how anyone at embark thought this was remotely okay. Anyone can tell at a single glance that this is so bad its unplabyable. The hp was more than fine, and a 1 second cooldown i could understand. But 7 seconds and 500 hp? wild

[@Joepoeee]

@@psilo5623 it’s always had a cooldown after it breaks

[@mohammedwagdy5342]

@@psilo5623 yeah it's kinda too much almost destroyed the speciality I might change it because it's kinda useless now

[@SomeoneThatUnknownCat]

It's not so bad if the broken cooldown was also 8s and when deployed it always goes back to 500 hp (but yes, it still loses A LOT of usefulness)

[@firstpersonsnooter2519]

@@psilo5623I’d like to remind everyone in this thread that this is subject to change, don’t get caught up on it

[@figgens123]

That riot shield dmg buff was 100% needed. If you hit a heavy 4 times…. Yeah. You deserve that kill

[@Tsunderedad]

@@figgens123 I'm getting better at taking down flamethrower heavies now they will fear the shield... slightly

[@figgens123]

@@Tsunderedad thats good! especially since you dont stay permanently on fire now with the riot shield and pyro nade lol

[@Jinko_]

Flamethrower never caused this bug, but did they really fire the fire nade one?

[@figgens123]

@jinko_ im about 97% sure they fixed the fire grenade on riot shield. I’d have to test it again. Maybe I got hit in the body and not the riot shield though.

[@Tsunderedad]

@figgens123 it's still there I got hit with it about an hour ago and had to run to a team mate so he could res me when I finally died xD

[@Humtie]

Nah the heavy shield nerf is diabolical. First dome shield and now mesh shield 😢

[@KingMinish]

Embark is nerfing their player count more than anything

[@Humtie]

@KingMinish maybe it's good because a lot of people play heavy with the same load out so maybe it helps who knows

[@-kdot-2332]

U guys are bad if u rely on heavy to win games. It's a broken class with too many OP abilities

[@Humtie]

@@-kdot-2332 can you read what I wrote after the first thing

[@Humtie]

@-kdot-2332 and why would playing heavy make me a bad player even if I hit top 10k? Also while playing medium in between

[@EvilLaughter16]

As a massive cl40 user this will make a massive change since the gun used to do 110 direct hit before it got the (damage nerf fire rate buff) it just breaks some damage threshold. In my opinion they are just making the time to kill on every gun shorter in general

[@hunterceroy]

If embark reads any comments - mesh shield cooldown is WAY too long And health was fine The problem was spanning it up and down with sa12 Why not 1.5-2 second cool down Current is WAY too long You didn’t balance the mesh shield. You made it useless😊

[@phantomfox4317]

It is still a protection from all damage. Just use it when you actually need it. I use Heavy a bunch and with how I use the shield reactively for stuff like rockets or grenades, this change won't affect much for me.

[@cloudboyistrash]

@@phantomfox4317 it got reverted. great because no cooldown is what made it skillful

[@Memematrixxx]

500 health is pathetic just use charge n slam with barricade and/or dome. Mind you dome has 225 360° protection AND let's you use your gun

[@Blixir]

I think if they wanted to stick a cooldown onto mesh shield it shouldve worked like cloak where it loses charge as it's deployed.

[@salib3k]

Would've been perfect imo.

[@joseluisperez5137]

In general we have nerfed even more the heavys, even if lights or mediums have slots to counter their utilities

[@EmilPiano]

They should never have nerfed the heavy defensive items like dome and mesh, light players however should have strong glitch grenades that have a long impact on direct hits. That should be better balance than the current state.

[@Denim_Chicken]

Seems so excessive when it’s already so easy to take down Heavy shields. 1 person easy can take out a Dome shield and 2 people team shotting can melt a mesh shield. Not to mention that lights get 2 glitch grenades and lights are already the most played class.

[@gesgald2266]

@@Denim_Chicken it is not easy to destroy mesh shield when an enemy team is well coordinated. Its kinda impossible

[@afoxydad]

@@gesgald2266 ever seen a blue barrel? stop it mesh is and has been a fucking joke

[@gesgald2266]

@@afoxydad aaah you got me there Yeah now I have to agree that mesh nerf was over the top

[@KingMinish]

why do they keep destroying the most fun parts of this game? i don't want to play as a fucking light

[@LegendofTy216]

The devs are trash that’s y 😂😂😂😂😂

[@emibla8571]

Totally. I don't want to play with the class that goes fast and only wants to make kills. I'm not asking to nerf light, but stop nerfing medium and heavy! This is ridiculous!

[@Legend77700]

Adapt or lose

[@KingMinish]

@@Legend77700 You think I'm a winner or a loser based on whether or not a TV screen tells me so? Since those are your rules: you're a loser. Tada, you read it on a screen so it's true. You lose

[@archymcfyre]

Right, at this point, give us more access to shit that ONLY destroys buildings then make it so if a heavy enough object lands on a light or heavy, it atleast stuns or breaks their knees

[@joemama6216]

The Finals: Season nerf

[@AresEverett]

Video summary: Heavy class: removed.

[@Jinko_]

I have never in my life used the mesh shield so I'm not mad about that one. why use something many other games have when I can literally run through walls and people

[@firstpersonsnooter2519]

@@Jinko_amen to that!

[@Hypotenuse2001]

Charge and slam is just better a lot of the time. Yeah you can have a shield up but a light can just maneuver around behind you, and you can do anything except put your shield down or die. It's also very team reliant for it to truly be effective. Atleast with charge and slam you have extra mobility, offense, and an entry point through walls. I still think mesh will have a place in the meta as a solid defensive option for coordinated teams though.

[@derick5295]

good.

[@MADOYS]

Good, most brainrotted class anyway. All of then should go back to playing their cringe Reinhardt.

[@ben05]

I mean heavy nerf is one thing but essentially nerfing a gadget no one uses (tracking dart) is kinda wild

[@Jinko_]

Apparently the current effect lasts 15s not 30s, meaning the nerf is weak compared to the doubled ammo capacity!

[@ben05]

​@@Jinko_oh ok I thought you said 10 seconds. also please do a video on all the new sights, in dying to see what the LH1 looks like 🙏

[@Jinko_]

I mean it was nerfed from 15 to 10 not from 30 to 10 like I say in the video. I have a short on the sights

[@ecstxs]

tracking darts are a good pick in high elo

[@CommandoBlack123]

@@ecstxswhy?

[@1K2L]

Je ne laisse pas souvent de commentaire, mais je tiens à te remercier, pour la qualité de tes vidéos et ta spontanéité sur les news qui concernent The Finals

[@Jinko_]

Merci beaucoup, c'est très gentil :)

[@АнтониоКуринноио]

The Dematerializer now has the ability to remove multiple parts of walls at once, to the point that it can remove an entire wall with one click. And the shield nerf upset me. If Heavy is not the team's "shield", so what is it supposed to be?

[@iwsfilm_]

8:47 also looks like the dematerialiser affects a bigger area now potentially?

[@64endo57]

As a heavy main I don’t understand why they’re nerfing more of Heavy’s abilities when they still haven’t changed anything like the power of the XP, one stun gun and you’re completely mowed down

[@garygary9993]

I agree, and am looking for my next game now.

[@PetrichorB]

As a "heavy main" you should know that heavy is, and has been the most oppressive class in the game. RPG, Winch, SA12, free kills all day dude. - Heavy Main

[@pjlavell6874]

Heavy is op and is way better and easier to use then light right now the nerf seems to make the playing field a bit more easy

[@PW.6060]

It's because light mains complain about it and that's all the devs care about. They just keep nerfing heavy into oblivion.

[@thetrueinferno7993]

@@PetrichorB I think the problem here though is that RPG will still be meta and that mesh will have no place at all. Effectively, these changes don't properly address their issues, RPG being meta due to instant damage + oppressive with a jump pad and mesh being brought down and up quickly.

[@orangejoey1459]

Damn RS buff. We are so back. Also, word on the street has it the exact changes they have planned for mesh will change in S4 release, so we will have to see what they do to it now

[@Jinko_]

I would rather have a 1 or 2s cooldown to see how it shakes stuff up before going for EIGHT seconds, so I do hope they revert it a little

[@orangejoey1459]

Yeah. I don't know what they plan to do with it, I understand they might want to shift it out of the meta for next season but the change was excessive. Mais bon, on peut rien faire qu'attendre qu'ils se décident avec leur changement, Embark va bien devoir trouver de quoi d'ici la semaine prochaine ahah

[@gubbdaig1226]

@@orangejoey1459bro switched languages halfway through

[@Jinko_]

@@gubbdaig1226 This guy is actually totalement maboul j'ai juré

[@Lifesteal8]

whats mesh

[@affarinoxa]

As a heavy main the mesh shield changes dont bother me as I have always been a goo gun enjoyer. But the RPG nerf while understandable really sucks. Because as a heavy alot of you arsenal is unreliable at certain ranges and the rpg was the one counter to light players munching on you. In my experience heavy is the least played class. This just seems to make it worse. Also the nerf to explosive mines is wack, I dont even use them but that just seems likes lights who never check their footing having a skill issue. They glow and beep and have a long arming time. More than anything this is a huge nerf for medium players who use them as breeching charges.

[@PW.6060]

This. Best comment I've read.

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

Now medium has no reliable breaching tools.

[@omargoshhh8374]

WHY! HEAVY DONT DESERVE ALL THIS

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

they will continue this untill game becomes only about light class

[@florentpeyrin]

@@omargoshhh8374 they do, at least the RPG

[@343Films]

As a medium support player, the heal beam def deserved a nerf, but this is wayyyyy too much. 50 -> 30hp/s is crazy. Should've been 40hp/s or even a longer cooldown if you overheat.

[@samuelajakaye]

As a light main, the mesh shield nerf has completely cooked heavy ngl 🤣

[@Jinko_]

Should have been a 1 or 2s cooldown max imo

[@pricklyprickle]

also the less mines the better for lights

[@Zalazaar]

@@samuelajakaye you mean the rpg nerf?

[@TheBestcommentor]

Charge was already so much better once they dropped mesh to 750. They didn't need to keep going. If anything they should bring back its old health now that you can't spam it.

[@samuelajakaye]

@@Jinko_ yeah fax

[@WildFlesh]

The more I play heavy, the more I get demotivated to play, been playing since Season 1 and man, why do they want to get rid of heavy so badly?

[@ben05]

@@WildFlesh bro u guys got hella love for multiple seasons, every class feels like theyre being bullied the second theres a somewhat substantial nerf edit: inciting arguments is my favorite past time

[@Jinko_]

I love heavy, still loved playing him in his S4 state, and never felt like it is a bad class.

[@Zlittlepenguin]

@@Jinko_ it isn’t a bad class, but in season 3, the build variety got completely gutted. Hopefully it’ll be more fun in season 4 though.

[@cyda_]

@@ben05 KS23 was nerfed early on and ruined the weapon (to me, at least. Lower damage + higher fire rate was horrible for the gun). Winch claw was nerfed 3 times since its launch. RPG received 2 nerfs to its accuracy and 2 to its damage since launch. Lewis gun received nerfs to its accuracy, only counterbalanced by buffing the M60's accuracy to make it seem like they're on the same level when the lewis gun is simply the better pick for its damage anyway. Heavy's Mesh Shield has been nerfed 9 times since launch. Somewhat substantial? Heavy has received more hate from the devs than the other two classes for the entirety of the game's lifetime. Remind me why light has pinpoint accuracy smgs that have no damage falloff and a quick ass reload and havent seen a single nerf since closed beta? It's obvious there's a favourite from the devs...

[@TheRealRhino]

@@cyda_the ks-23 is far better now than launch. the winch claw, RPG, and mesh shield were way too op for sooo long. The Lewis gun got a huge recoil buff this update and the m60 has a sight for it. Light has accurate guns because they have a third of the health, heavy is still good, you are gonna just have to start aiming and using your weapons and movement instead of relying on gadgets and specializations. Heavy is still going to be needed on every good team, it’ll just be less brain dead and more skill based (i.e. they buffed its weapons and nerfed its gadgets)

[@myztklk3v]

the dagger used to function like this in the beta, and everyone cried when they changed it on launch so dagger mains are going to like it.

[@ChoiiXMasters]

The DMG-Buff to the CL-40 puts it back to pre Explosiverework as far as I could tell from the Clip, which to be noted, wasnt OP or Meta in any Way but was just slapped very hard for no Reason and I'm happy for the Change, maybe give it a little more Reload- and Projectilespeed and all the Mains will be happy

[@deaconcaron8133]

Embark to anyone who is not a light" It's nerf or nothing".

[@jax5683]

The entire first two seasons were Lights getting clubbed with nerfs.

[@SukixChaos]

lights where nerfed season 1 and 2 i believe season 3 i think it had like 6 nerfs 5 buffs season 4 so far hasn’t nerfed light

[@noboot6558]

Wow embark really REALLY doesn't want people to want to play heavy theres so many things that heavy has but needs a buff but embark just nerfs the stuff thats usable instead of bringing other stuff up to its they're level

[@spiritfox6590]

I will say the mesh shield is a little too much, but the rpg was completely deserved. I don't understand people saying the heavy class is completely destroyed by this changes like, heavies just have one ability and one gadget? Lol

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

@@spiritfox6590 against a good player further than point-blank, heavy usually loses if RPG is on cool down. I'm fine with RPG getting nerfed, but they need to make the other guns a lot better to compensate, otherwise heavy is just going to die.

[@toxicn5736]

@@DPRK_Best_Korea skill issue, the heavy wins most firefights if you're not bad lmao

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

@@toxicn5736 In one ear, out the other.

[@humanbeans4498]

@@DPRK_Best_Korea average light main who just runs at a heavy and loses

[@hidroinreallife]

Heavy is no longer a heavy. Happy for the sniper nerf. Now you have to be actually good to use it.

[@afoxydad]

you had to be good before wtf are you talking about? why do you think basically no one runs it in ranked? the snipers skill gap in ACTUAL USE is incredibly difficult. its just the new players sitting still 150 meters away hard scoping that your crying about and id suggest not playing so many casual games if you cant figure out how to make a bot miss you lol. that said your opinion on heavy is spot on

[@hidroinreallife]

@afoxydad I usually play casuals just for the obscure contracts plus I have not played ranked all season for obvious reasons

[@2hardbackrub743]

Now she's just a slow medium. Heavy's main weapons have always been trash.

[@techtical7079]

@@afoxydad It required absolutely zero skill as it was hitscan, I picked it up when I started the game specifically because of how incredibly easy the gun is to use. It's to the point where if you have any remote ability to follow a target with your mouse for half a second you will hit.

[@HaveYouSeenMyCrèmeFraîche]

​@@afoxydad no it was pretty skillless I would just end games with multiple kills and with the tools provided to light good luck trying to sneak up and catch me unless I'm not paying attention I'm not dying either The only person that can contest me is another sniper

[@shhikens]

bro the cd mesh shield cd is crazy 8 seconds is insane being in the middle of a gunfight especially with third parties and another rpg nerf is wild seeing how it does 200 dmg to heavy themselves

[@amelbecic5332]

So season 4 is all about destroying every class except light? Think Im gonna skip season 4 since i dont think playing as a light is fun

[@pandaberry_]

1 thing i don't think many people knew is that goo from goo grenades and goo gun damages aps turrets, meaning you can just shoot goo in the direction of an aps turret and destroy it in 3 or 4 shots

[@Jinko_]

Yeah that's in my tips and tricks list!

[@sadie9171]

The first gadget i got to max was the explosive mines i love them and carry them in littirally every build now i doubt im going to use them unless the recharge time is MASSIVELY reduced this will kill them for me they were perfectly versatile but anyone paying attention wouldent have a problem avoiding them now i dont see how they are worth the space

[@JoaoVitor-ki3zh]

@@sadie9171 good, one less mine spammer

[@notsamir-3121]

@@JoaoVitor-ki3zh fr 😭🙏

[@docrussian1806]

Oh fuck off why do they do my heavy boi like this?!?

[@Wavyintelguy]

Bro, i know ur a riot shield main but i figured this might be fun to try in case you didnt know. You know the default inspect animation? You can run, slide, and jump while inspecting it and the craziest part is, it can block bullets, try it out. It wont block a whole lot but the sliding and jumping makes players freak out so bad 😂

[@Jinko_]

I talk about it in 2 videos but thanks

[@Wavyintelguy]

Oh, my bad, G 😂​@Jinko_

[@Tsunderedad]

I noticed in the latest release that dual blades can block riot shield hits now. Hopefully, the courtesy is extended to riot shields, being able to block sword and dual blade hits

[@Creatureofclay]

I never ran mesh shield anyway because it was very easy to counter already before this. You can either play aggressively and just push around/ through it or chip damage from range because it’s such a big target. It was hard to make it work and you needed a really well coordinated team. Charge and slam and winch both directly countered it. Mesh did not need a nerf.

[@garygary9993]

Heavy is screwed. Can't shield, worse rpg and mines, no good guns, what is its role?

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

demonstration that this class exist, nothing else 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ratscallion_exe]

Notable Changes: >(Unchanged) Goo Gun still overspams APS Turrets to destruction >Mesh Shield is no longer spammable >Lights now can give Heavies a semi-shotgun treatment >Heavies can now give lights a Dual Deagle (Pistol) treatment... >Sword is unaffected and gets a Rapier Reskin >Dagger Backstab is now held like a Sword Charge, making it less timing based at the cost of speed >Light "Scout" Marksmen Rifle is now projectile based weapon without nerfing its hipfire or ADS accuracy, meaning you can still run up to people and fight them at close range with Shot/Punch combo if you are THAT cracked... (Scope is 100% accurate if moving normally, but scope sway is still affected by directional movement) >Mediums now have the access to DMR's >Mediums are no longer forced to run with Brecker's BF4 FCAR setup, as optics are optional on all assault/battle rifles (Affects ADS speed per optics) More coming soon?

[@ChromeOnline]

The really complicated comparison of the Dagger charge to the bow when it's just a 1-to-1 copy of how the Sword lunge works lol! Really awesome change though. Thank you so much for making this video :)

[@Jinko_]

I am aware it was not very clear… sorry. And I barely ever used the sword, I didn’t know!

[@spiffrex8521]

I'm not a fan of the change. timing the backstab was part of the fun and difficulty

[@chucknorris5476]

Why are we nerfing heavy more? All my games I’m the only heavy on my team with maybe 1 other on another team. Is their an elo above emerald im not aware of??

[@TheBestcommentor]

Because ranked cashout is returning.

[@TheBestcommentor]

Emerald isn't an elo and it has absolutely no bearing on matchmaking

[@Ahmad_Jihad]

@@chucknorris5476 World tour leagues are progression leagues not elo or mmr since you dont lose any when you lose rounds, your actual elo will go down but not your league win points

[@SZ-rz8hj]

Smokes have always had 3 charges

[@TheEnemy10225]

@@SZ-rz8hj they had 2 charges until season three

[@Jinko_]

Oh so it's a season 3 change? Oopsie, litterally never used them due to them just not working.....

[@adjest6388]

@@Jinko_yeah they always had 3 charges, at least in S3 as far as I know. I used them a lot with thermal vision as a fun build in casuals, of course, with sniper. The vision helps in getting rid of unnecessary details in my brain to get it more focused in long range shots. The only problem with smoke is that the cooldown is way too long per charge. Smoke coverage isn't big so sometimes I dish out all 3 of em to actually confuse enemies but then it's on long ass cooldown.

[@alohame5582]

Wait, the riot shield buff is huge. You now can hit+melee meds twice and the die. On the live patch they will have 2 hp. And you finally get the oneshot combo on mediums after the defib. And overall W changes. The devs said that dome shield nerf won't make it to live patch

[@BruvIsNotDoctor]

Heavy shield does not need cooldown that long, they wanna nerf stuff that doesn’t need it 😓

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

That's the Skill issue community.. They keep complaining about heavy. And nerf unnecessary things..

[@hyperplayability6290]

Dagger change will probably take time to get used to, but it shouldn't be a massive pain since I have lost my dagger muscle memory from not playing in 2 months :( WAIT HOLY SHIT RIOT SHIELD BUFF FINALLYYYYYYYYYY Riverina must be so happy rn

[@The_White]

Am I crazy or is this just the way the dagger was in the beta? If so, it's going to be so much better now, trust me! (even if cloak isn't AS strong as it was back then)

[@hyperplayability6290]

@@The_White yeah dagger was holdable in beta, they removed it without telling us and we had been asking for this for months

[@The_White]

@@hyperplayability6290 So I did remember it correctly! I haven't played since the Beta, I came back recently and I swear the dagger felt off but I couldn't tell why! I can't wait for this change! All those sneaky dagger cheese plays will continue!

[@hyperplayability6290]

@@The_White that is if you don't get winch boom boom'd

[@The_White]

@@hyperplayability6290 I think you can actually avoid that. If you Charge, cloak, get a backstab on the heavy and instantly quick melee I think that does enough to just kill them. If you don't have the drop then yeah... it's not gonna work that well... But you can always swap loadouts!

[@jamesboyer6716]

Damn heavies do be suffering 😭 That won't stop the sticker spam in the discord however 😈

[@Lasoreth]

Thank god for the dagger change that’s what I’ve wanted this whole time

[@BubbenKopp]

They cant be fking serious. Winch claw nerf from 14m to 7m, now the mesh shield nerf and the rpg nerf... They really hate heavy.

[@MrNamenamenamename]

After so much time in the meta? You deserve this nerf. You had it coming.

[@humanbeans4498]

​@@MrNamenamenamenamesalty light main detected, learn to stop running at the fat hammer man

[@justalex_ai3075]

I really like this dagger change. Sneaky build users are eating today

[@oliverlutz1392]

So they made the game even more toxic offense and kill count based by nerfing every support gadgets with medium and heavy. Everyone is gonna main light now great...

[@dourdaur]

Great sniper nerf, that thing was very annoying to fight against. Though so many Heavy nerfs. I don't use Mesh Shield, so it's nerf doesn't affect me, but man, does it suck for those who do. I ran double mines, so it's a shame that Explosive Mine got nerfed so harshly, might have to change it to something else or adapt to it. RPG getting a nerf is relatively valid, since you can still do a lot of burst damage by following it up with a Slam from above. To me, it may encourage defensive Heavies to use Goo Gun instead, which is lowkey slept on at the moment, even if it's not as reactive as Season 3 Mesh Shield. I'll have to personally start looking into revising my loadout for Heavy, maybe I'll replace explosive mines with frag grenades or actual defense, even if I run Charge and Slam AKM nerf feels mild, but may convince me into picking up FCAR instead. Probably not, since I have more cosmetics for AKM and I can equip a sight for it.

[@BeneathShadows]

What do you mean by sight for the AKM

[@humanbeans4498]

This means medium cant use mines to destroy walls anymore, because it took 2... embark really taking cool techs like that out of the game

[@JoaoVitor-ki3zh]

idc, i just want the mines gone

[@notsamir-3121]

Or just use dmat if you wanna removes walls that bad 😭🙏

[@icy_demons_]

I used to be a cl40 main. And seeing the cl getting buffed i can’t wait to direct hit contestants in the arena again and be somewhat useful!

[@garygary9993]

until mediums just drop turret and teabag you

[@brajuhani]

@@garygary9993 CL40 is great to take out turrets, and there is bunch of other ways to deal with them.

[@garygary9993]

@@brajuhani wrong turret

[@brajuhani]

@@garygary9993 Ah, APS, my bad. Still, if we get splash dmg back, you can damage enemies and the aps turret by shooting next to its range. But yes, APS is hard counter to grenades, but way less used now after the nerf (which I think personally was a bit too harsh on it).

[@randychickens8881]

As a dagger enjoyer I love the changes, dagger about to be my favorite weapon for this entire season

[@ReadyplayeroneYT]

I used dagger a lot and I would say that im pretty good with it and I think the changes are a nerf to good players and a buff to new players, even though you can hold it now that doesn't matter to the people that were already good with the knife you just needed to time your stabs, but now that you have to charge it and it makes you slower its definitely a nerf, but I think they were trying to make it easier for new players because its hard to learn. I prefer the old dagger where it was hard to learn but good once you did. Now its just a mid weapon overall no matter if you're good or bad, definitely a nerf.

[@Commanderzavala66]

Finally I can hold the backstab charge in the dagger. That is a big QOL change

[@Gilbert_LUL]

so heavy defensive abilities gets nerfed again meanwhile light gets new close range weapon. I am just pissed off.

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

agree with you - this is riddicilous

[@MrNamenamenamename]

Oh boo hoo the heavy meta for three seasons has been harmed. Go cry in a corner.

[@Gilbert_LUL]

@@MrNamenamenamename Look at that with a different perspective. The finals is fps with sandbox elements. Meta techs allow players play as they want. Removing them makes game less and less joyful to play. So by nerfing shield in that way you basicly remove any lmg and flamethrower meta. You couldnt use mesh shield to defend against snipers or bow players if you master timing.

[@BrianTruce]

Great coverage, appreciate this vid!

[@Jinko_]

Glad you enjoyed it Mr. MGL

[@Glaive8]

looks like some really good changes, was really hoping for taser nerfs tho

[@badqualityfrog9367]

The riot shield still has the problem of actually getting close enough to hit people. My suggestion would be when your sprinting you can do a short shield charge where you sprint but with the shield up so they can’t shoot you while you approach them. Another problem with it is that light and mediums can just simply run away from you if they see you can you’ll basically never catch up to them

[@braincube013]

Embark must REALLY like light players… nerfing rpg? Nerfing shields yet again? No way people still think that stuff is op. They’re balancing everything around lights and it’s clearly not working.

[@PW.6060]

Absolutely. I refuse to play as a light. But now, heavy main is near unplayable and medium is pretty hard to be competitive against lights. All I see is games full of lights. It really sucks.

[@braincube013]

@@PW.6060 fr… every mode, every clip, every ending screen… it’s light players… and in season 4 it’ll be 100x worse with lights getting basically all buffs and everyone else nerfs again.

[@phantomfox4317]

The RPG is still a good demolition weapon. It was never meant to be a "delete button" thing. Player damage was nerfed, yes, and people only seem to care about how much they can kill people instead of strategic value of stuff. Demolition damage was untouched, which is where it's good at. As for "mah long range damage" if you play Heavy you've forfeit your long range damage and speed for demolitions and HP. Heavy still shreds.

[@braincube013]

@@phantomfox4317 yeah but the rpg was the one thing that could stop lights for us most times ( and even then many times it would still have them still needing more hits or us just eliminating ourselves )… 140 damage is fine for an rpg it’s only being nerfed because embark wants lights to be unstoppable apparently… not to mention heavy is already weak as is and now every update it seems to get nerfed to the extreme. People don’t like heavy or medium now, but they’re really not gonna like once the game is 95% lights… ( which is already is in some cases like PS )

[@phantomfox4317]

@@braincube013 Btw shield nerf apparently won't make it to live. Don't take my word for it though. I've seen some people talk about devs saying that.

[@IITZ_DUSHi]

WE BACK STABBING THE AREANA WITH THIS ONE🔥

[@jasonoyanedel6433]

They hate heavy

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

based

[@Jinko_]

Any season 4 hypers in the chat?

[@Scriptyyy]

@@Jinko_ 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 YEEEEES

[@thegameenjoyer6726]

@@Jinko_ LETS GET IT 🥶🤌

[@zsideswapper6718]

YESSIR ❤️‍🔥

[@maymayman0]

Let's freaking go

[@KingMinish]

i quit last season because they shat all over the best parts of this game, and i came back at the end because i thought maybe they got wise and realized what they were doing wrong. instead they just double down and continue to kill the co-operative playstyles in favor of aim-trainer andy bums. fucking garbage

[@saitamaonepunchman8176]

I think I'm gonna try light with dagger/sword, smokes sonars and breach charge smokes and sonars for the obvious combo and breach from breaking roofs and walls to do said combo yeah that sounds awesome actually xD

[@fastdagger4005]

OK EVERYONE, THEY SAID THAT MESH SHEILD IS TEMPORARY TEST CAHGNE, NOT OFFICAL

[@Jinko_]

Source?

[@fastdagger4005]

@@Jinko_ I believe rob said it in the discord, they said they were just testing it out and its not offical in the patch notes

[@Jinko_]

Can't find the source

[@pekropekro6264]

another patch - another heavy nerf lmao and the saddest part - still no 3defib workaround

[@eurosandcents]

i have 400 hours on dagger and omg this feels like a buff i cannot wait for this dagger rework

[@lordwhippleton9734]

The Heal beam I believe was changed to not have as much healing per overheat rather than less health per second.

[@xM3D1]

Ty Jinx

[@Tempting458]

They also changed the scoreboard it will no longer live update scores like objective, combat and support for anyone unless it's ur own team further more you will not be able to see if any other team is alive or dead even after u eliminate someone from that team except yours this is a significant change that will make 3rd partying more difficult, they can still count the kills on the other teams but like i said they can't see if anyone is alive or dead on other teams

[@THL300]

I ran into this and commented about it on the discord. The next ranked game I played a day later was back to how it was. I think they fixed it but idk. Either way, the change should be how it is, but I dislike it

[@Jinko_]

I still have hopes that this was just a bug

[@berryvr7184]

smoke has had 3 charges for entire season 2 near enough

[@fearsomezq]

My biggest thing I wish they would fix is the awful cpu usage in this game. I have a 3070 and can barely hit a constant 70 fps on full low settings and lowered res. It just feels awful. I don't wanna have to go buy a brand new cpu to run the game.

[@CreativeDrone]

I'm learning french and whenever you say nerfed I think you say something about the number nine for a sec lol

[@Jinko_]

Nerf and neuf are not that close ayyy

[@thatguyusee7604]

Kinda dissapointed that XP-54 and dash didn't get small nerfs/reworks, but the dagger change looks really nice

[@TehAntares]

I don't mean to defend the sniper players, but nerfing the sniper rifle to prevent those players from camping across the map kinda goes against the purpose of the weapon.

[@blueskully6313]

That’s what I’m saying it feels like a wierd change that just came out of left field sniper Can be good if u put in the time to learn it and have decent aim I get that it was annoying but it was never a HUGE broken problem that was abused and hated by everyone. Like the xp -54 stun gun is r something like the gateway that was basically mandatory in every light load out because of useful it was. Sniper was literally just in the corner bearly doing anything and they randomly decided to make every sniper main completely relearn the weapon for no reason so stupid man…

[@notsamir-3121]

Every thing needs a counter. You can't counter a sniper unless you have another sniper. Snipers are basically untouchable in the right hands, which is broken on paper

[@ryans3795]

Agreed. Bullet drop should help against range and maybe close enough you don't need to worry about it. But make something more challenging will probably make less mobile snipers than more mobile snipers.

[@bigchungus5890]

As someone who uses the dagger a lot, I think it’s a nice rework

[@hirammanriquez7126]

Heavy nerfs are unnecessary. Mesh shield and rpg are practically useless now.

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

they will find smth to nerf in heavy, even the absurd one))

[@Chris-tl1qw]

lewis gun and m60 were massively buffed so at least there's that. hoping they revert the mesh nerf on launch day

[@riverinafritsch2573]

I hope Season 5 gives us some new gadgets and specializations- but it was so much fun experimenting and checking for changes though, there was this whimsical feeling of the unknown and potential changes with everything tested and I can't wait to see the finalized changes in the patch notes!

[@GearDiego23]

the racking dart having 6 shots and a better cooldown is a very good change. I take that for reduction on duration

[@Jinko_]

4 not 6!

[@derryrahmadiono3363]

The gadget that I thought was useless turned out to be nerfed

[@breakingthestereotypes6389]

THANK GOD THEY CHANGED THE BACKSTAB ON KNIFE

[@nunyabiznes7446]

As someone that uses the knife a lot in power shift, this change would be a huge (and welcome) buff. It already has a windup, but you can only kind of buffer it and you can't cancel it, so this seems like a straight upgrade. As someone who uses the sniper rifle... deeply skeptical. I use it from the close- and midrange so I'm not sure if I'll feel it much, but I could definitely see this spoiling the weapon entirely if it's too heavy-handed. I'd be kind of pissed if the devs folded to people whining in power shift. If you're having trouble with someone sniping you from across the map, that's something _you're_ doing wrong, not something you need to go bitching to the devs until they make it a fking arcing projectile.

[@gamecubebro]

Looking at these changes, a lot of them were ideas i would've suggested when I gonna make a wish list video which I'm glad, like for the sniper and glitch mine. But I've offered some different changes, I was gonna suggest that the mesh shield would instead have a long pull out and close animation where the shield slowly expands outwards or close in a second meaning that you'll get more shots in when you catch a heavy off guard instead, tracking darts I was gonna offer that landing a shot turns it into a sonar that scans a much smaller range but for longer, meaning that they player can choose between sticking with their team or to stay away to not reveal their location but could be easier to be picked off. Many more ideas for various gadgets but they're definitely taking a step in the right direction!

[@Jinko_]

You should always post your feedback whether it's in video or text form. The devs do care.

[@Gknight969]

Mesh shield is what I main :( I guess it's the end of an era

[@phantomfox4317]

That change won't make it to live apparently

[@SukixChaos]

i’m a light main but timer nerf and 500 hp for the MS makes it almost if not useless. the fights are fast pace and i’ve seen my teammates need to drop a shield and use it quickly again

[@ColiaVand]

The dematerializer seems to be buffed to effect 3 or 4 chunks instead of 1

[@bricktea3645]

Tracking dart rework is crazy,it was a problem in terminal mode that people hate but we need 20sec me minimum with 3 shots cause by the time u reach them 10sec is almost gone

[@Данька-о4ц]

Спасибо за видео. Я очень растроен порезкой щита. Хэви мой любимый класс с бэты. К 4 сезону не осталось оружий, которые не резали для хэви

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

Поддерживаю - кретины Эмбарк режут всё у тяжа но не трогают имбовый помойный лёгкий класс который сейчас неостановимая имба для тяжа!"

[@Данька-о4ц]

@@ALEXZANDER_YT я ещё заметил что в новом сезоне для карликов дали аж три с4, а у хэви он так же 1, с большим кд на активацию и откат

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

@@Данька-о4ц дождёмся того что игра станет чисто в противостояние только лёгких класов!

[@GoldBearanimationsYT]

Agregious heavy nerfs

[@hyperplayability6290]

GTA6 is going to come out before charge and slam is balanced

[@zsideswapper6718]

And 93 Raffica actually getting a proper buff.

[@hyperplayability6290]

@@zsideswapper6718 yeah fr... It was somewhat usable in S2 (I played with it quite a bit) but the RPM decrease really made its flaws worse 💀 It won't ever be viable until they buff the damage output substantially

[@zsideswapper6718]

@@hyperplayability6290 Yeah they really need to give it a higher damage output. The V9S literally exists, why would it be so hard to balance its burst counterpart?

[@hyperplayability6290]

@@zsideswapper6718 it's crazy how they still haven't figured out the issue with 93R 😭

[@wellitry3035]

Dagger main I’m happy with dagger change lowkey a buff

[@bigtuesday1643]

The smoke grenade has had 3 charges for a while now, it's not new in this patch

[@sirchris6047]

dagger nerf is crazy

[@zep2375]

might have already been pointed out, but smoke already had 3 charges

[@LeGaLiZeDOOMz]

smokes always had 3 charges since the buff of months ago

[@thedofflin]

I get that the Riot Shield breakpoint is better, but holy cow that's it? I really hope they either improve it's offensive or defensive capabilities, because it's still unbelievably difficult to get value with it. I mean, sure, you can destroy noobs with it but as soon as you are up against anyone with half a brain it's terrible.

[@Jinko_]

More will come sooner or later, like with the dual blades. Hopefully anyway

[@danthemagicalman]

I think an interesting buff for the riot shield would be to block or at least negate more tactical devices, like the flashbang for example.

[@legalisegaybeams9260]

I feel like embark focuses way too much on competitive balancing. Like the vast majority of players are casual and it’s going to be so unfun seeing how light will just have no competition as heavy and medium get kicked into the ground

[@koichi1979]

I'm now waiting for a collab with hellsing to add alucard magnums as 50.akimbo

[@iPoeticProphet]

They should've never nerfed the rpg from a 1 hit nuke. They should've just made it an ability that you have to choose between goo gun, mesh shield and charge/slam. Mesh shield hp should just revert back to 1k if it's going to have this cooldown. Dome shield should have a longer cooldown than the mesh shield and depleted once it's hp is 0 not on a timer. The hp of the dome shield should be 1k. Winch claw should get the same cooldown as mesh shield and have it's range reverted. The goal of the heavy class was always to be a shield with a high reward for this play style. So if you choose to play offensive then you face more risks as a heavy, longer cooldown times than the other 2 classes, longer reloads, etc. RPG as a nuke, yes a 1 hit nuke but now you have no defense because it takes the ability slot that would be used for mesh shield and the others. It makes better sense, especially when mesh shields already nullify them. The devs really dropped the ball on the balancing side of things. If you have to make a class almost unrecognizable for the other classes to shine then was that really a good practice for balancing?