XJ650 Cafe Racer Build part 2 - Engine Service & Back to Basics

[@fzswede9533]

I think you are going about this the right way. It’s nice to see the progress 👍🏻

[@jishh]

Appreciate it buddy ☺

[@joegarrett8110]

Are all four downpipes hot? Same temp? I would suggest a good strip and clean of the carbs, check the diaphragms for splits and the intake rubbers too. Then a carb sync if all is well. Clutch basket sounded a bit rattly, may just be my ears. Great video, looking forward to the next one.

[@jishh]

They all get hot and i dont feel any difference across them. Ill be giving them a good clean when the engine comes out :)

[@Skydmig]

Oh man I have been eyeing this exact bike a collector is selling. The one I’m lookin at is in pristine condition, having been kept as a reference bike for teaching how parts in bikes work as is mandatory for people who want a license where I’m from. I’m really on the edge of buying it. Looking forward to seeing your progress. I have a great reference manual for the xj650 series (Haynes), so write me if you need some information.

[@SwedenAirhead]

This is as interesting as anything else in the build! Who wants a crappy engine in a cool shell. Nice video!

[@jishh]

Exactly! Thanks man

[@woodywoodpecker2708]

This is much more interesting than you think. I love the real life report on your build. Keep it going, you're gifted.

[@jishh]

Im trying to learn from the previous bike and make sure it runs before i build it 😅

[@wdavidgulesian6105]

i used colortune on my two xj650s to dial in to perfection the idle mixture screws and it was the best $50 i’d ever spent!

[@CormacBoyle83]

Change the air filter, they are so cheap and worth doing from service perspective. Can really help getting it running 100% smooth again. I learnt hard way after poor idle/running issues on my bike - pulled carbs out cleaned, balanced, messed about with idle settings this took hours! New filter was all it needed (even thou it looked fine).

[@jishh]

Im buying some K&N pods when funds allow plus this one looks like its pretty decent for now anyway :)

[@dowser81]

You have to admire someone who does bike mechanics wearing a pristine white t-shirt ;-) bike sounds like it has a good strong motor nice work.

[@jishh]

its actually an old shirt that i didn't mind getting dirty! it looked better than the other shirt i had on that day with a chocolate stain down it haha!

[@dazthejazz1640]

Great work, I did virtually the same work on mine this weekend. I have the two into two system, so no need to remove the exhaust to do the oil and filter. I can’t recommend cleaning the carbs enough, it made all the difference with mine. Keep em coming!,

[@jishh]

Ill be doing just that then :)

[@taysonreda6145]

Seca 650's are pretty rare! I have the exact same buke that I'm working on as well. I'm really excited to watch your build because it will probably end up answering a lot of questions that I have! Thanks for the videos!

[@nookingo]

I can tell the difference of how have gotten so much more confident fixing motorbikes, the first one was mistakes after mistakes, well done.

[@jishh]

Apprecaite it! You dont learn if you dont make mistakes

[@seanhunt3417]

Really looking forward to watching this build.

[@stevenbooth6034]

Really looking forward to seeing how this bike turns out!!!

[@jishh]

Iv some ideas in mind so hopefully i can pull it off!

[@millerswood39]

Awesome man, the bike sounds good. What I did with my old Honda in put in a bottle of carb/engine cleaner. And then ride the bike for a good hour. That worked great for my Honda. 👍🏻🛠️ Keep it up, nice to watch your vids!

[@jishh]

I may look at this actually! Was going to clean out the tank and change the fuel filter too.

[@TIBORANGE]

A service is always a good idea! 👍

[@jishh]

I felt i did a good job making a job like a service interesting 😆

[@SniperZaku]

Probably about to pick this up

[@jorgecordovanavarro9164]

Looks and sound good!! waiting for the next video!!

[@jishh]

Thanks!

[@AKUCHILLO]

Es lo mas bonito que he visto jamás

[@stevehufngel7221]

A gear oil change is recommended if the bike has benn standing for a lot of time :)

[@johnkingston7244]

Basics are good, nicely done. Is it worth a quick compression test while your are recommissioning the engine?

[@builtbythehand3902]

Nice work buddy definitely sounds better!

[@jishh]

Thanks dude!

[@jeison002005]

exelente moto Jish. Que bien que el motor arrancó.

[@AndrewLynch9]

Well done getting it to idle!

[@jishh]

Im happy with it now. Enough to carry on with the build ✌

[@ConnorGMedia]

Ayy hype on the new video, man!

[@jishh]

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[@Ad.Mitch.GCR1]

Good work Jish Lad! Sounds better for a bit of tlc.. Keep it up and she'll be a minter. Good luck with the drive shaft oil when you get to it... Hopefully its not thick like tar as my CX

[@jishh]

Yess! Thanks buddy. I just wanted her running without any major problems before i pull the engine out 😅 ill be doing the oil soon enough!

[@david555montez9]

Cool Jish 🤘 You're very inteligent Best wishes buddy 😀🤘

[@jishh]

Haha thanks 😘

[@DriversSide]

Good video man! New oil works wonders!

[@jishh]

Sure does! Thanks bro

[@tomas19cronin]

You want to strip and clean those carbs and do the idle adjustment on a red hot engine doing it cold could cause it to idke shit when you finally take it for a ride and get It upto temp other then that great work.

[@jishh]

The bike isnt usable in this state ( no front brakes being a main one ) but i did actually run the bike for about 10 mins with revs to get it warm. Its just cut up with editing ✌

[@hawkinsracinguk12321]

New exhaust and carb strip down will be sweet mate. Exhaust looks like the baffles have disintegrated proberbly not worth repairing. Loved your cb125 build I watched while series in couple of days looking forward to this series in real time. Will you be taking the cb to any more shows this year?

[@jishh]

Ill be going custom with the exhaust and the carb will be cleaned out at a later date :) Unsure on the shows as its having some issues at the moment so I haven't even had a chance to ride it much aha

[@MrAmorti]

Definitely worth cleaning the carbs out. After 2 years the idle jets will probably be partly blocked. You can spend a long time trying to tune that out ;)

[@harryfirks9228]

Great vid got to say you vid quality has improved

[@jishh]

Means alot! Trying to make them better each video ✌

[@MrEdleman]

Next time you do a oil change if your worried about oil not being in the whole engine case. pull the spark plugs and crank it for a little bit with the electric starter. Don't forget to cut the fuel with the petcock. other wise you will probably just flood it.

[@jishh]

To be fair i should have know this but i did forget 😅

[@carltonolson6813]

Running definitely alot better, probably clean the carbs and sync them and she'll be purring 👍

[@jishh]

Thats the idea! I just wanted it to run well enough for me to be happy to carry on with the bike before building it all then finding out it needs lots of engine work and chance of dirtying the frame etc

[@enriqueazua6446]

Excelente vídeo....esperando el cambio que le daras a esa moto.

[@karlfalardeau5409]

Did you get a lithium-ion battery to replace the old lead-ion one? If so, which one do you suggest getting...? I have the exact same bike and looking to change my battery as well!

[@jishh]

This actually will be a topic in my next video :)

[@karlfalardeau5409]

Great!!! Can't wait

[@Scrappy7238]

Nice vid , just revving the bike didn't bring me much further. Couldn't see what screws you were turning to get the idle adjustment. Would of been good if you had a light in there for the camera.

[@samhough6502]

You need to leave it running for a while on new plugs to tell if its running too rich. The soot won't deposit on the plugs that quickly. If I were you I'd be checking the valve clearances as well if it's not runing 100%. It's a bitch of a job but if it hasn't been done for a while then will only cause more issues down the line. Plus would be good to finally have a valve adjustment video on KZbin that was done with some enthusiasm and didn't send us all to sleep (excluding Ari Henning's one) haha!

[@jishh]

Its something ill look into! Its all steps in the right direction ✌

[@taxus750]

Carb balance is way out for a start, that's why it won't idle properly and it rattles (the camchain is trying to keep the engine in time). I'd also have checked HT leads and coils when changing the plugs. Bloody good bike the XJ650 - I had a red one years ago (late '80s) and I'd still have it were it not for a SMIDSY.

[@RADIORUNNER1966]

It most likely been said but this motorcycle has to have its carbs (4) synced with a x4 bubble device, then and only then will the engine run smooth and have the power it was designed to have ...

[@jishh]

You are correct my friend

[@BrianHarrisCISSP]

This is a Yamaha yics engine which connects the intakes together as well. It takes a special tool to block that off to properly sync them. The throttle shaft seals and carb boots almost always leak. The rack on these is a pain to separate as well

[@iridemanila]

you should take it out for a ride mate ;)

[@jishh]

I would love to! But the rear tyre is flat as a pancake and the front brake doesnt work.. so not the best idea 😅

[@thomaseubanks5323]

@jish hey man, do you know where I’d be able to find a replacement button for the electric start? I just got an 82 xj650rj seca and that’s all that’s missing on it. I know I can rig something else up with another button but i figured I’d ask! I’ve looked around online but no luck yet.

[@jishh]

Hey man! Im really not sure! I still have my hand controls and debating on using them or not still

[@thomaseubanks5323]

Jish thanks for the reply man! Fun to watch you work on these bikes, and it helps me too. Haha well let me know if you plan to sell it! I imagine I’ll figure something out besides putting a screwdriver in there but it’d be cool to have the real thing lol.

[@thomaseubanks5323]

Jish looking forward to seeing the finished product!

[@thomaseubanks5323]

Jish finally found it man.. lol yay. Thanks for the videos man.

[@spensermelchor2706]

Dude where did you get that shirt at? Or is it one of your own designs?

[@jishh]

Its a old Status Error shirt iv had for a few years! They dont do them anymore :(

[@spensermelchor2706]

Jish bummer i thought for sure it was your design. Ready to buy one lol

[@NilsOberheim]

I would consider checking the final drive Oil. The bike doesnt Look very well looked after, like mine when i bought it. The Oil Was realy stinky in There :D

[@jishh]

Ill look at that too buddy :)

[@jpich85]

Have you done a compression test?

[@jishh]

not yet

[@dowser81]

the way in which the bike fired right up does not in any way point to the bike needing a compression test and would be a waste of time

[@paulwindress1741]

Which Daytona are the new forks from please?

[@jishh]

All will be told in the next video :)

[@AlbertSpice]

Hypeeeeeee

[@jishh]

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[@TulsaMotoClub]

Whats up with you hand buddy?

[@jishh]

I have a real soft wrist and sometimes it hurts to move so i just strap it up whilst i work 😅 nothing to worry about! Had it for years

[@devinbuchanan9939]

Where are you finding your parts at

[@jishh]

Ebay :)

[@devinbuchanan9939]

Have you found a carburetor rebuild kit I need the one with the transfer tube seals

[@jishh]

Its on my list. Ill need tl rejet when the pods come so ill look at that point

[@tghra]

I like video content you.

[@jishh]

Thanks!

[@dylansmith7705]

I’m sure you’re already gearing up for this, but pods on a rack of CV carbs are going to be a nightmare.

[@jishh]

Indeed i have! Ill be going with some K&N's over cheapo ones this time

[@ZippoVarga]

You'll be needing to re-jet the carbs. Your best bet right out of the box is to have them professionally tuned and ask the mechanic if you can watch the process of tuning and bench synchronizing them. When you adjusted the idle of each carburetor you were actually throwing any chance of the carburetors being in "sync" right out the window with each turn of the adjustments. Being synchronized and properly jetted for the air pods will mean the world of difference between a crappy running poor fuel economy bike and a seriously fun bike to twist the throttle on. With 7 bikes, many with multiple cylinders and being a small engine mechanic (Check my Channel), having the proper knowledge and tools is paramount to a smooth running bike from idle to wide open throttle. Keep the rubber side down (from across the pond) Zip~

[@jishh]

Don't worry buddy! this will be on the cards on the final build back up as i know when iv taken the carbs off and put everything back together it won't be running too well until its been set up and tuned properly! For now i just wanted to know everything was working and there wasn't any underlying issues with the engine before i start pulling it apart

[@ZippoVarga]

It sure sounds healthy and certainly worthy of your next build, there's no denying that. I did notice a little starter clutch slippage though. It's an easy enough repair if it becomes an issue later on down the road. By slippage I mean, the clutch that should be behind the stator is a roller bearing clutch usually with three or four rollers, as many plungers and springs and the springs get weak over time and the plungers become mushroomed. This weakens the grip the clutch rollers have and causes the clutch to slip making a distinct sound in the process and it can cause the clutch drum to also slip while the engine is running. It's nothing that will blow up and put the bike out of service and most Cafe` builders do a starter delete and make the engines kick start only anyhow. Really looking forward to this build Buddy. Zip~

[@jishh]

I've actually been watching guides on this as it was mentioned! ill be doing it at some point :) i have to as this bike hasn't got a kick starter! Appreciate your comments though mate. so helpful and informative for me and others to see

[@owen5834]

Did you check the compression?

[@jishh]

I havent as i dont have a tester but im sure i could borrow one from a friend

[@owen5834]

Jish pretty easy job and gives a good insight to the engine. Looks like you have a pretty good bike there, really looking forward to the build!

[@dowser81]

the bike shows no signs of needing a compression test as it fired right up with excellent compression.

[@dowser81]

your bike has excellent compression Jish hence the reason it fired right up, really you would only be looking to do a compression test on a bike that has problems starting which yours clearly doesn't buddy.

[@owen5834]

Alan Dow so if a bike fires first time it must have good compression. Ok then......😂

[@spymaine89]

plug gap , what set at

[@jishh]

I just eyeballed them from what the old ones were set at

[@ianrooke278]

START WITH THE BASICS AND MAKE RELIABLE FIRST

[@jishh]

I did?

[@ianrooke278]

@@jishh I was just agreeing with you sort the basics then Go 4 the fancy forks 😳

[@jishh]

Caps makes it sound like you are shouting 😂

[@keithf8890]

Carb strip and clean.2 year old fuel isnt kind to jets.

[@jishh]

I did empty the old fuel out in the last video as well as run fresh fuel through. Ill strip the carbs when the engines our

[@Psycrow11]

Clean those carbs!

[@jishh]

I will

[@gilleslucas6787]

First react!

[@jishh]

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[@mylesbotes2873]

Hey my buddy,rather strip those carbs I can tell u now they need cleaning

[@jishh]

Im listening!

[@adityapundir8128]

10w30 🤔🤔🤔🤔. why

[@jishh]

Thats what i was recommended

[@adityapundir8128]

Jish by whom . its an 650 right . i don't think that 10w30 is good enough

[@jishh]

The Hayes manual for my model of bike buddy Plus the website i ordered the oil from. gave them my registration and thats what also came up to be the correct oil

[@adityapundir8128]

Jish if you turst them good but i still prefer little thicker grade

[@I0ITuGI0I]

I never understand people trying to save dead batteries, just throw it out ffs, all you're going to do is end up stranded because it died after a ride, fit a new one and stop fucking yourself.

[@jishh]

I was only trying to bring it back to life so i could make sure the bike ran and in case i needed it for whatever reason whilst stopping the bike down etc. it was never the plan to keep this battery in the final build