Jiujitsu film footage from 1912

[@Aromaticduck]

Its great that we have this piece of old film footage. These are all good basic techniques that are still taught today and are very effective

[@drutgat2]

That was fantastic. Many thanks for posting it.

[@BartitsuSociety]

The timer was superimposed when the footage was transferred from film to video. The timer digits are slightly transparent, so you're seeing flaws in the original film through that transparency, creating the illusion that the digits themselves are grainy. For what it's worth, the film footage is completely genuine and was recorded in 1912.

[@이철우-w5b6o]

40years ago, I still am praticing this one. It's good with punching and kicking.

[@guillaumeerard]

thanks for the info and for posting this!

[@LeopoldUlysees]

Excellent. . .Superb. . .on many levels. Thank you for posting this.

[@JohnRaptor]

Very cool. I like how they showed a more formal demonstration and then practical application.

[@BernardWilkinson]

This is stunning material.

[@Shuricat]

Very entertaining! Thank you for posting this video! :)

[@Peter_Siri]

It's amazing how the suited man executes and even switches techniques under pressure.

[@BartitsuSociety]

Yes, insofar as Taro Miyake (who is the uke, or receiver of techniques, during the formal demo. at the beginning) was a guest instructor at Ernest Regnier's jujitsu school in Paris, which was set up in Desbonnet's gymnasium. Although it's impossible to confirm the identities of the men performing the self defence demo., it's very likely that they are S.K. Eida, Shozo Kanaya and Yuzo Hirano, some of whom also taught at the Regnier/Desbonnet school.

[@BartitsuSociety]

1912. The man partnering Takisaburo Tobari during the waza demonstration at the beginning is Taro Miyake, who was born in 1881 and died in 1935.

[@guillaumeerard]

Thanks for the answer. I was wondering whether the filming might have occured rue de Ponthieu.

[@2008August30]

Very good, thankyou for sharing.

[@TheKySharpshooter]

Great video!

[@DavideMassaJudo]

nicely said...

[@David43515]

Wonderful stuff! The only thing that`s changed in the last 101 years is that they dressed with more style.

[@snieves4]

There are no advanced Techniques, there is only an advanced understanding of them....

[@myz32rocks]

Nice! Cool footage!

[@shawnscorpion3589]

Awesome video thanks for sharing this with everyone :D and i stand corrected to think it was a fake. How ever maybe gracie people should see this before giving credit solo to them for sport jujitsu and not the roots of where the sport came from.

[@guillaumeerard]

Does this have anything to do with Desbonnet?

[@Martial-Mat]

Excellent!

[@BartitsuSociety]

Towards proving the veracity of the date, etc., I suggest doing a Google image search for "Taro Miyake", who is the uke during the formal waza demonstration at the beginning. There are several very clear portrait photographs of Miyake, who is documented as having been active as a jujitsu instructor and music hall challenge wrestler in Europe during the first decade of the 20th century.

[@AllianceBjjStockholm]

The rooster is the logo of the Pathé film company, which made many newsreels at the time. The time code is not uncommon on scanned copies of old footage. So could be authentic. What talks against is the second part being more "chaotic" than other demonstrations i've seen from the time, there is some panning (which was uncommon in 1912, but could also be from the scanning) and the 4:3 format (which could be cropped though)-the aspect ratio of film in 1912 used to be more quadratic.

[@EdwardOlive]

Juji Jime, Juji Gatame, Ude Garami, presa dolorosa, Kesa Gatame, Hadaka Jime, Ippon Seoi Nage, Koshi Guruma, O Goshi y algunas Kansetsu Waza de piernas.

[@justoldog]

Great stuff--- cool music, too!

[@DerekLyons]

Brilliant!!!

[@BartitsuSociety]

The digital counter was superimposed when the original film was transferred to video.

[@Kurtwuckertjr]

Then, of course, mma and sport Jiu-Jitsu have both radically changed most people's view of Jiu-Jitsu for about twenty years now.

[@mephilatian]

The Japanese sure rocked the overcoat and bowler hat look back then.

[@얼굴없는존재]

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@BartitsuSociety]

I think it's more likely to have taken place at the Pathe studio.

[@LionDowsett]

He really cranked on that calf slicer.

[@Kurtwuckertjr]

The basics here became Gracie Jiu-Jitsu a couple decades later, and to a casual observer, there's no change, but if you spend a few years on the mat, you'll see that the angles used here are easier to hit, but harder to control the opponent. BJJ of the twentieth century is only about 20% different than hundred year old judo.

[@Worldwidewhat-wb]

this great instruction

[@SnowMongoose]

Noticeably better with the sound off.

[@LearnsubmissionsHere]

Very nice. Anyone interested in learning roots of Submission Grappling/BJJ should also looking into carnival wresting.

[@woodsteeth]

the 4:3 is probably a crop. would've been nice to see the whole frame in the original ratio.

[@epella]

which songs are playing in the video?

[@curtrod]

bad ones

[@sz332]

This is fckng awesome!

[@marcuspiscaer4120]

This film was released as a part of a silent movie. Other sections included a doctor performing a surgery etc. Tobari is in the official title, not Miyake. Where is the evidence Miyake is in the video? In early 1912 when the film was made (or late 1911) he was in London I beleive (the film was in French theatres by summer 1912). Miyake would have also been partnered with Tobari who is the man at the end had he been in the film most likley. It is unlikely Miyake would have been uke to a lower level jujustuka, but I could be wrong. The two people at the beginning are Tobari's assistants most likely. Tobari is the tall man (and he was very tall) at the end and his jujutsu is obviously extremely advanced.

[@trashbasementproductions223]

The gracie family always say that Helio Gracie created the leverage in ground movements but in 0:18 in video we see that this is a big lie, the Japanese masters already did this before Mitsuyo Maeda arrived in Brazil.

[@c.duncansutherland8347]

These moves, a majority of them, are still used by those who teach Helio Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Most people associate Gracie Jiu-Jitsu with ground fighting exclusively. That is not true. It was first and foremost, through Helio's lineage, a self defense system that incorporated throws, stand up tactics and striking. The Gracie Academy along with the Valente Brothers of Miami promote this form of self defense Jiu-Jitsu.

[@TheKySharpshooter]

Well said!

[@MrBINDEL]

Une pièce de musée. Merci.

[@GeneBurnett]

I've been informed that it is a rooster, symbol of the folks who made the original film. That's a relief. ;~)

[@marcuspiscaer4120]

Taro Miyake is not in this video. Tobari is the man at the end and the people at the beginning are likely his teaching assistants.

[@BartitsuSociety]

That's Miyake acting as Tobari's uke at the beginning.

[@marcuspiscaer4120]

@@BartitsuSociety that is definitely not Tobari at the beginning. Tobari comes on at the end. Miyake is likely not in this video at all.

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

They got all their stuff from Judo,by way of Maeda.

[@sandrodream5418]

this video seems more recent ! I mean the faces and the movements of the fighters are modern

[@BartitsuSociety]

+Sandro Dream It was filmed 104 years ago.

[@sandrodream5418]

+BartitsuSociety incredible i cant beleive !! so the 2 fighters in the video was borned approx in 1870 !!! the same era of the Cowboys and Western ! thats incredible I am astonished

[@BartitsuSociety]

+Sandro Dream Taro Miyake (the uke in the first part of the film) was born circa 1881 and Takisaburo Tobari (the tori in the first part) was born in 1873.

[@sandrodream5418]

BartitsuSociety WOW I am a Bruce lee fan and I love this kind of video. I am really ipnotized about this incredible video, thank you very much for this masterpiece

[@pantslizard]

Lol. here's the "h" you lost... :>)

[@BoutyC]

his seo nage is gorgeous.

[@GeneBurnett]

Very cool! It's been decades since my last LSD experience but did anyone else see the giant superimposed chicken? Seriously.

[@RikiDojoUSA]

Origins of Judo - great to see real kenka judo!

[@lightshadown]

thats the predecesor of the water mark system, and a way to said "this is my work" way back on those days. company logo.

[@GeneBurnett]

Man, I hate time code. Would have been so easy to not include...Not you the youtube poster but the person who did the transfer...

[@MrWeezer1]

Old judo. Awesome.

[@soypinoy5251]

this is the real jiu jitsu

[@naughtiusmaximus222]

Nice, but not convinced in the slightest that it's from 1912. The times is counting in milliseconds, which I'm going to bet a 1912 camera didn't do. It's possible that the timer was superimposed over a more recent recording of the footage for reference; but if so, why has it been edited to have the same "grainy" look as the rest of the film? Modern footage just edited to look old. But still cute :-)

[@curtrod]

it's you that's cute by half

[@yaobear17]

OUS!!!

[@Tristan-th7dq]

Nice!

[@naughtiusmaximus222]

fair play. I stand gladly corrected :-)

[@beastfromtheeast422]

What? Almost none of those submissions would be allowed in wrestling. In wrestling if you're shoulder blade touches the mat, you're pinned. I see various arm locks, leg locks, and many other submissions.

[@RhinoXpress]

wonder how pro wrestling would have fair against Jiujitsu back then when it was still a legit sport that dealt with a lot of holds and submissions as well

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

And Judo is a perfected version of Jujutsu.When trained realistically,and not in the mcdojo way,Jujutsu will look like Judo.

[@curtrod]

they're quite different

[@lusciousLaw]

I think they called this judo back then

[@jeanburnell911]

That is, of course, the secret Xin Qi Shen LSD chicken.

[@snowdawg7]

2:30 the man walks away like a dog XD

[@jasonwagn4448]

Cool movie. But I didnt know cameras in 1912 had digital counters.

[@tlktothekidd88]

why arent cops practicing this gentle art to subdue and opponent with ease and without taking a brother/ sisters life.

[@BartitsuSociety]

+Ruano Rodrigues Cops do receive training in "less than lethal" unarmed defense and restraint techniques, but the extent and quality of that training varies widely depending on local policies. TASERs can accomplish pretty much the same goal without requiring the very extensive training necessary to non-violently subdue a violent person.

[@tlktothekidd88]

+BartitsuSociety would like to be tased or taken down to the ground and subdue ? I mean it goes from person to person in the end of the day. gentle art= gentle subdue.

[@BartitsuSociety]

+Ruano Rodrigues I know what you mean, but gently subduing a non-compliant subject is very seldom as easy as it appears to be in textbook demonstrations.

[@tlktothekidd88]

+Ruano Rodrigues taser is no gentle art. getting shocked scks man. and I know this because as a kid I used to stick screw drivers into the outlet sockets lol

[@BartitsuSociety]

+Ruano Rodrigues Glad you're still around to tell the tale. Despite the name, jiujitsu isn't necessarily a "gentle art" either. The serious risk is that you end up having to hurt someone, or accidentally hurting them, during the often-chaotic struggle to gain that perfect, non-violent lock or restraint hold while simultaneously keeping yourself safe. Those risks get more severe the longer a struggle continues. TASER's aren't perfect, but they do reduce the risks along a use-of-force continuum that includes the option of lethal force.

[@Saadul]

hespect osss...

[@luchador1764]

This is cute.

[@Gonosen]

Kodokan judo/Kano jujitsu

[@debraco7748]

I don't know about Tobari, but Miyake wasn't a judoka, he was from the Handa jiu jitsu school in Osaka, which was considered "the" place for ne-waza. He also studied under Tanabe and one other prominent instructor whose name escapes me now. He wrote several newspaper articles about it, circa 1905-1918. In one he acknowledges that the best style for throwing is the kodokan, but that most handa fighters, albeit to a lesser degree, are familiar with some standup as most kodokan fighters are familiar with some groundwork.

[@jjwl]

Dug your clip!

[@gmk22799898]

thats judo

[@TheBlackDog73]

Looks like gracie combatives

[@flynn6854]

Powerful Joe Rogan

[@davidsonh29]

GASHO

[@JusticeEvan-md4xw]

jutaijutsu, not jiu-jitsu

[@1lostinspace]

all that shit is soo wrong😂

[@curtrod]

nope

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

Lolwhat