JJ McCarthy is Not a Franchise Quarterback

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[@ThinkingFootball]

How many Quarterbacks get drafted in the first round?

[@MrBacchus18]

5

[@ryandalessandro4139]

4

[@moneytime1556]

4

[@MarioNjokes]

Way too much

[@kendraftman]

THAT'S TOOO MUCH!!!!!

[@konradbecker3670]

Annual thinking football having the best qb takes and breakdowns year in an year out

[@ThinkingFootball]

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one actually grinding the tape

[@gavinpujado2579]

@@ThinkingFootballwatch a to z sports he’s great with analysis

[@43rgwerg]

​@@ThinkingFootball Bro we see you every year, absolute top tier analysis on your part.

[@KorZen10]

Annual? I think "Daily" is what you're looking for

[@ThinkingFootball]

@@gavinpujado2579 I'll have a look over the summer! - I try to stay away from other peoples opinions in draft season as I think it can cloud my evaluations

[@keeganmanning8196]

As a M fan, I’ve been seeing these issues and wondering why no one points it out. Unfortunately, his pre-draft rise could easily be the reason he doesn’t pan out. Having to start immediately for a bad team could be a death blow to his career

[@ThinkingFootball]

I'm of the opinion that almost every rookie quarterback shouldnt start - definitely not week 1. The mental aspect and speed of the game increase exponentially at the next level, giving the future of your franchise a chance to watch, learn, and practice, at that speed surely sets you up for more success in the future.

[@EtreNameless]

@@ThinkingFootball People just don't realize how different these athletes are at D1 and then the NFL level. It's a different type of human.

[@MultiDevilmaster]

Vikings would be the best landing spot. He can sit one year and learn and he has top notch weapons, top OTs and ok Guards

[@joeynickles7962]

@@ThinkingFootballyup. I’m of the opinion that the Packers are the franchise that knows how to do quarterback development the right way. People don’t remember how poor the reports coming out of camp were for Aaron Rodgers his first year and even into his second. And it was the same thing with Jordan Love. But they handled it the right way. They were patient. And they didn’t just throw them to the wolves when they weren’t ready. And now the Packers have developed their 3rd straight franchise, which is absolutely remarkable.

[@ronaldbargain4925]

Oh it will be. Also when u are helped out and supported by a backbone of a national cheating scandal, that helps alot to when u know exactly where players will be. Jj will look like how he did against bowling green. Bro better watch film or he’s fucked bad

[@brucemackenzie4952]

My dad had a great line about Bret Favre and I think it applies to Mcarthy “ he has the unique ability to keep both teams in the game”.

[@aem870]

🤣

[@brian1011234]

😂😂🤣

[@T.J.WattFan]

And jameis Winston

[@brian1011234]

@@ErikThomasMusicthe point in the video is that he’s a good QB just not a day one QB nobody in the league cares about HS records it’s not the same game, and damn near the same for the pros they don’t care about what you did in College look at Stenson Bennet Georgia’s 2x Natty winner

[@bernhardlangers778]

​@@ErikThomasMusic and he played against what kind of defenses exactly? This is the crux of the matter: in the NFL defenders can run, catch, outsmart you and are just way more capable. It is for this reason that predictions of qb success are a crap shoot.

[@sdhfgujk467]

Looks like my JJ McCarthy opinion just dropped

[@mkwy8782]

If you have to listen to someone you know nothing about to inform you here then you are simply a mindless, ignorant fan whose opinion is worthless-in every direction. Even the true expert, in the NFL, miss on evaluating QBs and how their talent will translate to Sunday. Not a single person commenting here demonstrates any expertise. We will see-ill every one of these QB PROSPECTS.

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

​@@mkwy8782you mean someone that evaluates prospects for a living? A person thats probably eatched thousands of hours of film from many different players? I would be a fool to let their research mean something when i dont have nearly as much time or resources to do what they do. That's like saying this lawyer who i know nothing about has no chance to defend me because i dont inow them.

[@ishyameru6232]

@@mkwy8782 Nobody asked plus you're not a scout your opinion is just as trash Mr.Fanboy

[@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx]

​@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast yeah sure bud. Always trust the experts they are never wrong. 😵‍💫

[@slippymcnut]

​@@STREAMSONLY-vt6gxNo one is saying to blindly trust the experts, but blindly mistrusting them is worse considering film analysis is literally what they do. Give the due weight to their profession, and then let their track records speak for them individually.

[@matthiassventoest6800]

I'm glad that you aren't scared to say it. he may develop into something, dependent on the team, but I don't see a lot right now.

[@ektran4205]

he's just nolan-singletary era 49ers alex smith

[@travisoshea]

@@ektran4205an Alex Smith who went first overall and was an NFL QB for many years and was a franchise QB. I’d say that is a great career

[@ektran4205]

@@travisoshea alx smith before jim harbaugh and andy reid

[@travisoshea]

@@ektran4205 again he went to the worst team in football as the number one pick. It’s not an ideal situation that’s why they are going #1. Very few QBs have turned around franchises. What also had JJ skyrocketing is the type of person he is and he only cares about team success.

[@himmothybigq7781]

vikings is perfect

[@shimonhawkins13]

JJ has ~70% completion rate and doesn't throw a bunch of bubble screens and RPOs and homeslice makes it seem like he can't hit the side of a barn with a shotgun. 😅😅😅😅

[@thrgg]

I noticed that most of the clips of his worst plays are older.

[@bchero]

@@thrgg He still never really showed the layered throws that are so common for high level NFL QBs. By layered throw, I mean one where a zone is open and he alters the trajectory of the ball to loft it over a linebackers head. He seems to think he has to throw every single ball hard as hell.

[@mattyghost3409]

Did you see the Penn State game? Red zone he threw into coverage 3 times 1 was an int...After that they run the ball 30 straight times lol

[@shimonhawkins13]

@mattyghost3409 that was Chop and Isaac destroying our Tackles. Any QB under that kind of pressure makes terrible throws. 〽️ichigan wouldn't have survived the turdstorm of stoopidity last year without a leader like JJ 〽️cNatty. Haters were waiting and hoping for a loss, but he never buckled. Sorry (not sorry) 😆😆😆😆〽️〽️〽️〽️

[@Paula-mv8im]

The Vikings would not have drafted him if he had accuracy issues. That is one thing that O'Connell values highly.

[@HyzersGR]

Great production but at the end of the day anyone can draw conclusions from a cut up of lowlights. His completion percentage was high, and many of these passes while not perfect were definitely catchable. He's 19 and 20 in these clips and his leap from his first year starting to his second was huge. NFL teams are all drafting with the expectation that they can polish players further at the next level.

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

He's a bust.

[@HyzersGR]

Busted on your mom

[@ryandeanandersen]

​@@solomonrodriguez9187what a nuanced argument 😂

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

@@ryandeanandersen I watched every throw he made this year. He's combination of Jimmy G and Zach Wilson. I don't get the hype.

[@MrAdmvp]

@@solomonrodriguez9187because you don’t understand what you’re looking at

[@michaelhellerslien1602]

This will be fun to watch in 3 years, either way.

[@itz-luigi1210]

The only thing that matters is he doesn't care about the rush. It's unteachable. Everything else, since he has the physical tools can be taught

[@IEdjumacate]

It’s honestly so refreshing to see videos that don’t just senselessly hype prospects. I haven’t seen many videos like this. Props.

[@db2ez_]

There’s absolutely no way you can have some of these criticisms for JJ McCarthy yet think Drake Maye is going to be at surefire franchise QB

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

Drake Maye is way better. Just say you don't know football.

[@xedyir_oZZ]

Maye actually threw the ball tho and has a way larger sample size compared to JJ

[@VendevProd]

@@solomonrodriguez9187 Maye is awful.

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

@@VendevProd Nope!

[@VendevProd]

@@solomonrodriguez9187 Okay then, explain to me how he is so good.

[@ChampHere]

Great Analysis My Favorite football KZbinr breakdowner(if that’s a word) great work keep it up and who’s better to you Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels who would you draft first for your team

[@ddman1354]

This sums things up pretty well. I think one aspect that people forget about McCarthy is the fact that he just turned 21 this year. He will have to develop, but that's expected for anybody at his age. I think the tools and age combo is what gets the NFL excited and willing to take the chance. He does have to go to the right spot though. Minnesota has a great offense so that would be a good spot. I think Sean Payton would be a good pairing for him, although he's probably not day one ready in his offense. A team like the Patriots or Raiders would probably be a disaster, but I don't think he'll go at 3, but probably be gone by 13. I'm interested to see his development for sure.

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

I dont think anybody forgets about his age. Thats usually the first thing that gets noted about him.

[@ddman1354]

@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast well I don't think it was mentioned in this video. Either way, I believe the fact that he essentially has 2-3 years before he's at the same level of football experience as the other guys is a significant part of why he's viewed so highly. On top of that he was still asked to do so little at Michigan. We really have no idea what he will look like in a typical pass heavy offense. I can understand why that brings both questions and also predicted upside. Bottom line is age + tools = high draft pick.

[@t4d0W]

I think what gets lost in the JJ McCarthy narrative is people thinking teams would be so desperate to get him in top 10 along with that rookie contract amount. In comparison to the QB1~QB3, McCarthy def does not have those crazier tools despite his younger age and may not get to his 2nd contract. Which is why team situation will be very important for him because he def is not a starter caliber rookie and I probably agree with the sentiment of many that he will benefit from sitting like Love did (but for less longer). I don't see him as a bonafide franchise QB but he'll be fine if he ends up as an experienced veteran bridge QB type for a team with better pieces on offense.

[@ddman1354]

@@t4d0W Landing spot is definitely important for JJ. Although, it's important for just about any prospect. I'd say Williams is the only QB from this class that would survive playing his rookie year on that Patriots team. If they take Maye or Daniels, I don't like their chances.

[@choosecarefully408]

It may not play out that way. There are 6 available QBs in this draft. 4 teams, Broncos, Vikings, Commanders & Patriots do not have what most people would consider to be a #1 starter & 2 others, the Giants & Jets _might not_ have one. Do you know what QB prospects are expected to be 1st-rounders in _next year's_ draft? *No one.* As soon as GMs realize this, the Pats & Giants at least are a _LOT_ less likely to trade down & the Cardinals or Chargers could demand quite a hefty ransom for doing so. While most of us want to see Malik Nabers paired with Justin Herbert, there's no point in the Chargers drafting him. They just hired Greg Roman, their third straight completely inept OC. You may know him as the guy who took Lamar down from an MVP in a league with Brady & Rodgers to Daniel Jones levels of production making everyone think he was a glorified RB. Herbert can't run like Lamar. Between that & his o-line plays, expect Herbert to get injured yet again.

[@thejay1221]

Kevin O’Connell can probably coach him up pretty well but moving up to no.5 to select him would be insane

[@pvrpmxb]

Vikings got him duh 🙄

[@Duh_wettest95]

Got him at 10

[@user-uz2rx6dc7l]

As a JJ truther, this was an excellent breakdown because he is a project. Have you done Jayden Daniels break down and if so, does he also get criticized for tucking and running too soon? I am not talking shit just curious on your process.

[@ajpierre]

The guy who won the heisman?!😂😂

[@ThinkingFootball]

It's on PAtreon as the SEC doesnt allow me to show thier tape on YT Yes, Daniels was seriously knocked for that in our breakdown - and for his complete lack of care for his body.

[@keeplearning4L]

you guys are the most reliable and trustworthy source for analyzing tape and players. keep up the amazing work

[@adamweishaupt2846]

I think the majority of this QB class is greatly overhyped.

[@isaiahh4108]

They’re great prospects none sure things

[@JohnAC4]

Why because they have flaws?

[@imouut]

Caleb is only really hyped up by bears fans. Everyone else hates him for some reason and calls him a bust.

[@brettrollberg4863]

@@imouutno I guarantee any team would take him if they had the opportunity. But be a bears hater 😂

[@imouut]

@brettrollberg4863 I'm a big caleb williams fan and think he's a future superstar. How am I a bears hater?

[@ironfistalexander3246]

My prediction is that he doesn’t go top-5 like most people think. QBs get pushed up a little bit but NFL teams are more disciplined than we give them credit for. 2022 Pickett at 20 and then not another until Ridder in the 3rd, people thought Willis was a top-5 pick that draft. 2023 Levis falls out of the 1st when he was favored to go 2nd overall by betting odds a week before the draft. This could age poorly but 🤷‍♂️

[@t4d0W]

INB4 people will get at you with 'but teams are more desperate for starting QB talent this time around'. But I doubt they are that desperate enough to push all their chips in for draft assets just to move to 5th~9th for JJ McCarthy. Unless its a GM that knows their job is gone by this season and wants to do that move out of spite/owners' wishes. At the very least QB1~QB3 this year looks like they can start for 'bad' NFL teams this year and be their respective teams' franchise QB (with a potential for that 2nd contract/extension). Nothing about JJ screams that about me and I would trust the NFL GMs/Owners for that since they have the money. The draft fans who are heavy into the speculation certainly don't.

[@ironfistalexander3246]

@@t4d0W well I was right about McCarthy but man I did not see 6 QBs in the top 12 coming

[@ricardojleivac7679]

Excelent content my friend . It would be awesome to see this same breakdown in the next tear of QB , maybe 3-4 minutes each . From Penix , nix , rattler , etc . I asume that Jayden will have his own video as Williams or maye . But see the other tear and how the VOD dissect there game would be fun .

[@ThinkingFootball]

Daniels will get his own video but I'm not allowed to post SEC footage to youtube so it will only go on our patreon. It's very difficult to write a short video about a Quarterback - to really understand a QB you have to watch a season and a halfs tape and that usually throws up a lot to talk about. I'm hoping to do a Nix and Penix ones post draft - but QB videos also take an extremely long time to make accurately - so we will see how many I can make.

[@ricardojleivac7679]

@@ThinkingFootball never the less , I’ll be waiting for the content 👏👏

[@DrewSorensenMusic]

Thanks for this. I was watching JJ and can’t understand why so many fantasy analysis are so high on him. Thanks for validating my skepticism.

[@davidgordon19]

His original draft projection of mid to lower half of the first round is probably fair, saying he’s not a first rounder is excessive. The accuracy issues you highlighted I think are somewhat nit-picking when the other top prospects share some of these traits too. I personally don’t think any of the QBs besides Williams are truly top 5 players in the draft. As a Michigan fan I don’t want him to go top 10 and get destroyed beyond a bad line. Somewhere between pick 12 and 20 depending on need feels right.

[@ThinkingFootball]

Please show me anyone projecting him in the first round pre draft spin season - I genuinely can't find a single person claiming that

[@fate8718]

Nobody called him a first rounder late second-early third was the consensus before the draft spin And Accuracy is not as fixxable as it looks

[@HyzersGR]

@@ThinkingFootball The problem is that the only ones projecting draft picks before draft season is the media. Once NFL teams start digging into the film after the season do more accurate models come together.

[@ajpierre]

@@HyzersGRThe tape is right in front of you. He’s not a 1st rd pick…

[@Financere425]

i've seen tom brady miss reads also but that doesnt mean he wasnt a franchise quarterback, missed throws it happens to even the best. the key is 3rd downs and playing well under pressure which mccarthy excels at.

[@ejecto_seato]

I swear like 90% of people say he's terrible and going to be over drafted, how is that over hyped 😂

[@MrExoticDemon]

A player who wasn’t even considered a round 1-2 player is now considered a top 5 pick after a shitty combine.

[@incognitoblack8661]

The other 10% are the draft analysts who are pushing their narrative that he top 5

[@joeynickles7962]

@@MrExoticDemoncompletely false. Dane Brugler had him as his 19th ranked prospect on his top 50 board before the season started. And he’s got his finger pretty well on the pulse of the league. Generally, the draft media is a step or two behind how the league thinks anyway and the league has likely always been higher on JJ than the draft media world.

[@arlondwilliams971]

​@joeynickles7962 you have no idea what you're talking about. There's multiple media members with multiple sources saying teams have JJ as their 2nd or 3rd QB in the draft

[@joeynickles7962]

@@arlondwilliams971 the fuck are you even on about? Are you responding to the right person? I literally was the one refuting the notion that nobody had JJ McCarthy high on their boards before the pre-draft process. Literally refuting that. So if you are responding to me we’re gonna have to file this under negatives on your scouting report: “reading comprehension not a strength”

[@jg7088]

Stock overhyped because he played for Michigan and they won the national championship

[@markroberts8975]

Maybe so, but it's worth mentioning that Michigan's best receiver this year wouldn't have been good enough to even start for a lot of other schools, such as Ohio State & Washington. I would not be surprised if most clips of his bad throws are actually clips of receivers not running the right routes.

[@jedsmith6680]

Im so gald someone else is seeing this. Iv been beating this drum as loudly as i could. Im just glad he went to 'the best possible situation' so there are no excuses when he fails miserably. The comparison that keeps coming to my mind is kenny pickett. JJ is the next pickett. Write it down

[@JohnAC4]

I think the problems you brought up as far as his accuracy are mainly timing issues which are correctable. But great video nonetheless

[@gregpellegrin6978]

Everything is correctable, but he entered the NFL draft with these issues….. needed minimum one more year at mich

[@blocksmithmagazine9970]

Exactly which is due to low reps in game with a running offense

[@blocksmithmagazine9970]

@@gregpellegrin6978no u don’t turn down being top 10 dude he made it

[@reynoldkissling7159]

JJ going to the Vikings is just about the best possible scenario for him - a great coach and excellent supporting cast and a bridge qb in Darnold letting him hopefully sit and learn for a while. I do worry about him being able to pick up on KOC's scheme which is so heavily based on timing and anticipation, and the way KOC desperately switched between qb's last season doesn't give me confidence that he will be patient enough to give JJ time to sit and learn before being thrown to the fire.

[@James-kp8mg]

The biggest problem is he can't throw well to his left. It looks like Michigan recognized it and rarely required him to do it. But watch the combine and his games and highlights and his throws are off to the left if its not a short pass.

[@jontaryn4816]

He throws better to his left than Maye does to his right

[@James-kp8mg]

@@jontaryn4816 Then Mayes must be abysmal. Because McCarthy is so bad it seems they game planned around avoiding throwing to the left.

[@teddrickhargrave]

@@jontaryn4816 maye atleast knows how to touch pass jj cant even touch basic stuff like throw receivers in stride

[@ajpierre]

@@jontaryn4816 funny his production says different

[@eodyn7]

I expect this video to age like milk.

[@piggy8761]

😂😂 sure

[@kanetyler4399]

He’s like 2 years old and has had one spring to get better. The tools are there and flashes are there, I don’t think anyone can credibly say they know either way.

[@kanetyler4399]

Kinda reminds me of Tony Romo

[@bobsope4284]

Yeah you typically don't draft a player top 10 based on "flashes" though. That's kinda what we are saying. We aren't saying he isn't talented. He deserved to be picked in the late 1st - early 2nd. Not top 10. Huge difference in draft capital

[@t4d0W]

Well a 'smart' GM/team would rather put their chips in a top 5 QB pick who can at least start day 1 or become a franchise starter within the early outset of their rookie contract. Along with having enough film with their unique tools to have them become a top 10 (or even fringe) NFL QB. Hell fans think NFL teams would be tempted with 'flashes' but look at guys like Levis or Malik Willis whom the consensus bought into thinking they were round 1 guys or great value QB drafts just outside of the top 10. NFL thought differently when those guys were only day 2 material.

[@blocksmithmagazine9970]

Low reps is his only problem you are over analyzing

[@StraightCashHomie23]

Looking forward to the apology video in 3 years.

[@ThinkingFootball]

Looking forward to your apology comment in 2 years

[@HiiipowerHabits]

I’ll be back to see “StraightCashHomie23” come back and admit the video is correct. You’re blinded by your fandom right now

[@rumpuvpigskin9566]

I'm not looking for him to lead us to the promise land right away. However, I trust O'Connell to make him his #1 priority to develop, so that McCarthy will one day be our franchise QB for years to come.

[@jesse8458]

It's a shame you couldn't show that play against Bama, because it was very possibly the greatest individual play that anyone made during the past college football season

[@michaetsully87]

That's what I'm saying!!

[@wardog211]

To be fair to the inconsistent accuracy and anticipation and not well polished processing, he is the youngest and most inexperienced of all the QBs. Many of these clips are from the TCU game where he was 19 years old. Part of the hope with him is those aspects of his game did get better this year as opposed to last year. A lot of it is also tied to his footwork. As you can see when he’s late his stance is super wide and he overstrides. I think with his natural football instinct and playmaking ability on top of the athleticism he can develop those shortcomings. Even Maye and Caleb were both 21 last year during their final college seasons. JJ didn’t turn 21 until a couple weeks after the national championship. But because of some of those timing and processing things situation will matter a lot for him. I don’t think he has an elite ceiling but if fostered well he could be close to like a Dak Prescott.

[@t4d0W]

Close to Dak? Dawg Dak was a legit starter even in his rookie year in part because of continuity with an offensive mind like Linehan. Along with Dak's improvement with his arm, accuracy and near quick reading post snap. Even showed improvements with accuracy when the Cowboys got worst in parts of their offense. Only fault Jerry has with Dak was not paying him longer term for cheap as he became a fringe top 10 QB. QB market continues to grow and Dak gets to play his final year where he will be in demand next season and Jerry being cheap will get him no QB.

[@aderounmuadedeji183]

Weirdly this video convince me he WILL be a franchise guy. everyone misses reads and throws. But he is young with room for improvement and the high leven throws and runs you showed are very impressive

[@thabruhfrom9444]

I agree. He’s my favorite QB coming out this draft and now after watching I’m now more convinced.

[@TheSteveKinney]

This.

[@RoyaltyProdz]

It depends on the tean

[@ajpierre]

Everyone doesn’t do it as regularly as McCarthy.

[@Sarahsahater]

Yeah a quarterback who was top five in completion percentage and avg yds per play last year isn’t accurate. I’m sorry none of that computes to make a coherent take.

[@ThinkingFootball]

Completion percentage is the WORST stat in football and is far more based on the type of offense a QB is running - Is Bo Nix is the most accurate QB to ever exist because he had the highest completion% we've ever seen in college? Ofcourse not.

[@tims6881]

@@ThinkingFootball It's far from the "WORST" stat in football, it's over used sure, but it does lend insight into a QB. Bo Nix improved his comp % every year in college, that says something. Of course now that he's done with his 10 years of college he can move to the NFL as a 30 year old rookie. That last part is sarcasm, he'll be 25 on his next birthday. JJ McCarthy did everything in his college career, including winning the NATY, all before his 21st birthday. I think that is one of the biggest thing that needs to be taken into account regarding McCarthy.

[@lee9617]

Mccarthyism is fire😭

[@chetsenior7253]

Communist. 😀

[@lee9617]

@@chetsenior7253 yes

[@AnimeNoel]

PLEASE DONT TAKE THESE VIDEOS DOWN I LOVE EM

[@mullen25]

looking at past drafts its more about the team they land with and the infrastructure to nurture development. lots of highly drafted guys went to a bad spot and flamed out.

[@Wumbology10]

Please let Jj Mccarthy be drafted by the Vikings 🙏🏽💀

[@Wumbology10]

My wish is about to be granted

[@2x7revan]

They actually did it😱

[@thedraftguy_com]

I noticed you focused a lot on 2022 tape and early in games versus his adjustments that show you that he gets in a rythym and shows ability to shred defenses. Interesting point of view.

[@K11cj]

Another thing is sometimes he squares his feet and hops at the snap. At the next level that’s a extra split second to get put on your tail

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

Joe Montana and Tom Brady were both game managers and won a combined 11 Superbowls. A QB better be a game manager or they ain't worth the spot on the depth chart.

[@ajpierre]

And they went in the third and 6th rounds and had to be developed. Not the same. So because the two best QBs in NFL history won SBs so we should take game managers? You named 2. I can name dozens of game managers like this who were busts

[@MrAdmvp]

@@ajpierre how many of those busts got to throw to Justin Jefferson?

[@koodigocrxzy465]

I dont think you schematically know what a game manager is. Shorter drops and full field reads aren't "game managing" Especially when your passing the ball on a substantial amount on non pa passes

[@ajpierre]

@@koodigocrxzy465 when you have only two games with over 30 past attempts. You’re a game manager.. when your team is carried by the running game and the defense and not the quarterback because he has one 300 yard passing game in three seasons. You’re a game manager.

[@tims6881]

@@ajpierre That is what he has done in the past, but it's not necessarily who he actually is. If he had played in the Washington Huskies or Oregon Ducks offense, there is a great chance JJ would have tossed 45 TDs and 5K yards last season. He did what was asked of him, which was to win games. Nobody did that better last season than JJ.

[@Z-Bart]

Past performance is not indicative of future returns.

[@lukepenguinmashups]

Can you rank the top 6 QBs taken in the first round based on how good they look on film?

[@joesanthosh5315]

As a Jets fan, after seeing your analysis of Zach Wilson and seeing how he panned out, I trust your opinion a lot man

[@jollygrapefruit786]

Do you think he can develop into a stronger player under KOC now that he's with the Vikings?

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

No! He doesn't the tools to become a starting QB.

[@77racing71]

@@solomonrodriguez9187 put down the crack pipe

[@tims6881]

@@solomonrodriguez9187 What tools does he not posses?

[@SuperCeaser44]

Don’t think this was a fair video to him. U showed a lot of highlights from his first season as a starter and made it out like that version of him was the Michigan finished product. He definitely has a lot to work on but he took care of the ball, he has shown he can throw in the face of pressure, and he is athletic. I think the biggest thing he needs is more reps which is weird to say about a guy who started 29 games but it’s true. He needs more game reps throwing the ball in game. What is interesting about him, is that usually guys who threw the ball as little as he did don’t have much tape to show of them making NFL plays. He doesn’t have a lot of throws but he makes a lot of NFL plays. The volume of them just isn’t as high as Michael Penix and Caleb since they threw a lot more. He is a unique prospect but that makes sense because Michigan was a unique National Championship team. First team I can remember since Auburn that will have so few 1st round picks. JJ may be their only one. But UM had a lot of quality guys which is why they will break the NFL draft pick record. Not to mention their coach in Harbaugh was unique at the very least 😂

[@Camb2r]

You gonna do a video on Jayden Daniel’s out of lsu?

[@ThinkingFootball]

It's on Patreon

[@MrAdmvp]

You said Denzel Mims would be a star, so you’re hardly the oracle

[@DaggetSWG]

Really? It's almost like picking a QB is literally a crapshoot

[@MrAdmvp]

@@DaggetSWG the title is “JJ McCarthy is not a franchise Quarterback” He certainly doesn’t think it’s a crapshoot, he thinks he knows it all

[@daniellebryan8780]

While we are on Michigan, can you do a video on Blake Corum?

[@ThinkingFootball]

I don't have the time unfortunately, but I do like him as a player, reminds me a lot of Joe Mixon

[@terry7907]

Fair, objective breakdown.

[@finzfan47]

It's so funny listening to new engladn pats fans talk about him. For some reason someone told them that Mccarthy is the most pro-ready and has the highest floor. They think he's a safe pick. I've said the exact opposite. He's one of youngest guys in draft, he's still growing into his body and will improve his arm strength. His footwork sucks. All those misses you show are because he felt pressure and would throw off balance or rush his drop back and just mess up a regular 3 step drop. That is alarming, but that is also something you can fix. That's why I think JJ has a really high ceiling. If he can get his mechanics and footwork consistent, he will be a good NFL QB. And mark my words, his arm isn't done growing. When a coach fixes his mechanics it will look like a diffferent qb. Why I really like him in a few years is the athletiscm, the natural arm talent, and obsession with football. I think he's one of the guys who will work as hard as he needs to to get the job done. It may take a few years but he's going to be a good NFL level starting QB by year 3 or 4.

[@ricklopez7965]

Is there chance you can be wrong with him? and he turn out to be a franchise qb?

[@JPostman425]

Of course, look at how often Mel Kiper is wrong and he's considered an "expert", all of these guys just give educated guesses

[@kirtytres5804]

As a CheeseHead hearing the rumors...I hope and pray Minnesota doesn't see this vid till after the draft or sumn🧀🧀🧀

[@hodoibrahim1670]

Our head coach is a QB ain’t no way😂

[@CanadianChiGuy23]

As a Bears fan, I’m hoping the Vikes use both of their 1sts (and maybe more) on this guy.

[@farriskhan2352]

​@@CanadianChiGuy23 JJ may be a better NFL QB and Caleb. He never played a down over age 20.

[@stash7714]

Love is f n trash

[@Between_the_numbers]

How does one get game tape ?

[@landongray8687]

How do you get these teams tapes?

[@ThinkingFootball]

Connor Stalions

[@Jalreal]

Michigan's run game and excellent o-line made JJ's job easier than it otherwise would have been. But he was a good player and improved year over year. I think he's coachable and went to a good spot in Minnesota. I'd give him a 65% chance of growing into a franchise guy. Worth a first round pick. Stated as a die-hard OSU fan and alum.

[@DaneDoper]

As a Viking fan thank you for putting my hopes down

[@cfbaddict7284]

Why is nobody talking about the Mccarthyism joke lol

[@Smokesome773]

I just found out bro from la grange park a illinois native so i fw him

[@B.Piercesports]

What was tom brady?

[@blakty2]

THANK YOU Been wondering what certain reporters were smoking projecting this guy as high as 2nd overall

[@ektran4205]

kingsbury develops qbs pretty well

[@briant1745]

Oh nah I need that too, they must’ve been seeing god with a take like that Over Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye is just a strange pick

[@sclafantasy]

When is the Malik Nabers video gonna drop!? 🎉🎉

[@ovalord9868]

Love this channel

[@mmsL125]

Me doing the Leo pointing meme for 15 minutes

[@the3rdid485]

Bro I'm a traumatized Vikings fan and I don't need to see titles like this lmao

[@ToofKilla]

Thank you thank you thank you! I watched a lot of McCarthy this season, and this is exactly what I saw. He's not a first round talent in this class, much less top three. And all the other experts including Brett Kollman and JT O'Sullivan are buying into the hype train. Even statistically, he doesnt even surpass Stetson Bennett from last season(including rushing yards), who is an NFL 2nd/3rd string. Obviously I hope he succeeds once he gets drafted too high, but I seriously don't understand how this media campaign is being so successful.

[@B.Piercesports]

What are you watching michigan football for boy

[@andymancan_]

Game managers in college dont translate to the NFL

[@B.Piercesports]

@andymancan_ so what was tom brady? Troy aikman?

[@andymancan_]

@@B.Piercesports brady was a 6th rounder who nobody thought would be as successful in the NFL as he was and troy aikman won the davey o'brien award and pac-10 offensive player of the year

[@B.Piercesports]

@@andymancan_ with the sane stats yal talk shit about jj had

[@ravinuxoll86]

As a Commanders fan, I’m waiting for your video on Jayden Daniels.

[@allfacts19]

This video is obviously click bait. This is alot of video from his Junior season. Show his senior season where he is much more improved. McCarthy can definitely be a franchise qb if the coaches have patience and let him completely develop. The Vikings have to have patience with JJ. If they do that he can be a heck of a franchise qb. Qbs careers are ruined by putting them in the wrong situations. If Mahomes went to the Bears there is no way he is a franchise qb at this point in his career. Plus, there is no way the Bears would be paying him a $400 million dollar contract. If Justin Fields was drafted into a better situation he would be way better. In Chicago he was running for his life. Then the next season they try and turn him into a pocket passer. Thats teaching the totally wrong things. If he went to a team with a good offensive line he could have been taught to go through his progressions. But he was running for his life. It will be interesting to see if the Steelers are able to turn his career around. Which i believe they definitely can. He's an extremely hard worker and he wants to be successful.

[@tfriesen7872]

tl;dr: "I'm a delusional Michigan fan"

[@solomonrodriguez9187]

You're a Michigan fanboy.

[@ThinkingFootball]

Show his senior season? like all the throws in this video from Bowling green, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan State, Purdue, Maryland, Ohio State, Iowa, Bama and Washington? Situation is always king with any prospect - but if you think this video cherry picked you arent paying attention.

[@sclafantasy]

Criticize his conclusion to your heart’s content but if you think this guy does click bait, you don’t watch the channel.

[@robertsmith9741]

The fact that you think most of these videos are from his Junior year is concerning. Has he really not improved from his Junior year😂?

[@jonathontan4169]

As a Vikings fan of course I'm hoping for the best outcome. But you never know obviously.... But the potential in JJ is there... And he's very hard working.... His attitude reminds me a lot of Tom Bradys which he is actually really close with... Not saying he's gonna be the next Tom Brady... But it seems like he's headed in the right direction

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

Its odd all the drake maye detractors missed the same issues with mccarthy

[@gameboiz1]

It’s because JJ makes these mistakes maybe 1 out of every 20 plays while Drake does it 1 and every 3

[@albert9334]

@@gameboiz1because jj throws 1 out of 20 plays

[@fate8718]

@@gameboiz1 Maye's is just pronounced because he actually had to win UNC games Blake Corum did more in Michigan than Mccarthy

[@MrAdmvp]

@@fate8718what exactly did Jayden Daniel’s or Caleb Williams win?

[@fate8718]

@MrAdmvp Jayden won games in a confrence that would kill JJ And they both won Heismens JJ could never On a slightly less asinine note: McCarthey is called a winner but is the last reason the damn Wolverines ever do Generally speaking it was Michigan's defense that got them to the national title game The 1 time McCarthey ever had to actually win a game(Vs TCU) they lost He also lost that one game vs UGA that nobody talks about because it doesnt support the notion that McCarthey just got lucky and broke through to get the title rather than him being an actual winner(now admittedly he also didnt start that game but he played the whole second half and the last bit of the second quarter He had time to right the ship He didnt) Its like me praising Mac Jones for being "a winner" for going to Alabama Ofc you are gonna have all of 3 losses in your record You went to a blue chip program

[@mikeobiwon]

Makes me wonder if this is why Harbaugh didn't really unleash McCarthy. I mean, Michigan didn't really need a QB to carry the team given the strength of its offensive line and running game and as noted during the first several minutes of this video, McCarthy did do some good things. Love watching your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@llepsnaci1]

harbaugh dump all the chargers wr talent and loaded up on greg roman and ravens rbs. It might just be what he does.

[@CJStew06]

It's always interesting how different people see quarterbacks. Love your channel but I disagree on the conclusion. I do think the things he excels at are the building blocks required to grow and develop into a top-tier QB. Every player comes with weaknesses, but do the strengths provide enough in the zero-sum game of football to give him a winning advantage? I think yes, but I certainly respect the other side.

[@ajpierre]

How can you disagree with taped evidence? McCarthy is terrible

[@tims6881]

@@ajpierre What is the taped evidence? Please explain.

[@ajpierre]

@@tims6881 This video literally contains game tape and shows supporting evidence.. Did you even watch the video??? All you silly ass Michigan fan who are seeing your 1st and last championship in life need to stop typing. He’s a 5th rd project. And when he busts and i come back to this video. You’re not gonna have a word to say

[@milobouchard2630]

Do a video on Penix 🙌

[@yzfool6639]

Matt Ryan made a career out of throwing behind his receivers. They were always getting hurt because of it, but hey, no one complained.

[@Jay-n262]

A year of development as a backup would really be good for him.

[@elmo9863]

I believe he could be great, but it comes down to where he ends up and if he's willing to do hes homework.

[@bunjidogg]

Wow, this channel knows more than NFL scouts and GM's. I can't believe you're stuck here on KZbin and not in the front office of an NFL team right now.

[@VendevProd]

No he doesnt lol, he misses a good bit.

[@bunjidogg]

@@VendevProd sarcasm

[@VendevProd]

@@bunjidogg oh, my bad

[@Rverma30]

“McCarthyism”😂

[@neb185]

I'm just so scared the Pats have fallen in love with him and am seriously hoping it's just smoke.

[@gameboiz1]

I hope he pats draft him over Maye

[@larrywade166]

I hope all these guys are good. It will make the games so much more enjoyable when there's more than 4 or 5 elite QBs out of 32 teams

[@ThinkingFootball]

Very much agreed - I want every prospect to work out - I watch NFL film for a living - the btter the quality of play the more enjoyable it is to covr and the more there is to talk about!

[@ajpierre]

THANK YOU FOR THIS

[@farriskhan2352]

JJ completed 72% of his passes last year (240 completions). He only gave up an INT in 2 out of 15 games. His yards per attempt was hugher than Drake Maye, as an example. He is very consistent. A highlight reel has value to show upside potential. However the "needs work" reel can be produced for any QB because passes go incomplete 30-40% of the time. It needs to be coupled with the players stats, which in the case of JJ, are very strong.

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

Because Drake Maye is asked to do far more and doesn’t have the dominant defense and running game that Michigan had. If you swap teams Michigan would have cleared everyone by at least 25 plus points because the threat of the pass would have been so much greater that the box would have been lighter

[@farriskhan2352]

@@JJJJ-he8bz Actually, JJ was asked to do far more. JJ was asked to beat the #1, #2 and #3 ranked defenses (YPP), in the last 4 weeks of the season. He won at least 6 games that were bigger than Maye ever played in: 2X v. PSU, 2X v. OSU, Alabama, Washington. JJ is also younger than Maye. Why would the threat of the pass be greater for a QB (Maye) that had fewer yards per pass attempt and a lower passing efficiency rating?

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

@@farriskhan2352 Are you sure you did your research before saying this? Penn State 7-8 for under 100 yards and no touchdowns 30 straight runs Ohio State 16 completions for under 200 yards and 1 touchdowns Iowa no touchdown passes 10 completions under 200 yards Alabama he had pretty good stats 3 touchdowns 200 yards but the defense kept them in that game had Alabama had a better quarterback Michigan gets beat Washington 10 completions no touchdowns So tell me how he was asked to do a-lot other than handling the ball off? Put Maye on that Michigan team they wouldn’t have had a single game within 20 points

[@ajpierre]

Throwing check downs and short passes.. completion % means absolutely nothing. He’s a handoff merchant with one 300 yard game in his career

[@ajpierre]

@@farriskhan2352Please name the #1 and #2 ranked defenses he played against. And he wasn’t asked to do anything.. Michigan ran the ball and played defense. Stetson Bennett did the same thing JJ did and more. So did Mac Jones. He was never asked to throw michigan back into games

[@michaetsully87]

Jesus show some of his miracle plays!

[@brianwelsh2810]

That's why I never bought into Minnesota offering three number ones to get their hands on McCarthy, he'll be a backup through his career with occasional starts. He's a huge overreach if taken in the top 10 he is a mid 3rd early 4th at best

[@SmithMason5494]

I've been trying to get people to see that he has serious issues, even if his upside is good, but everyone ain't believing me. Glad to know I wasn't just crazy.

[@esoteridactyl]

IDK we'll see, the actual NFL scouts and GMs seem to think highly of him.

[@MrJoeljoy]

That's all false narrative for a foolish team like the Vikings to trade up for him 🤮

[@ThinkingFootball]

Actual NFL GMs have taken Zach Wilson at no.2 overall - and Bryce over CJ Stroud Maybe they should grind the tape a bit more

[@t4d0W]

Bob Quinn as Lions GM reached for Jeff Okudah at pick 3 in the 2020 draft. He is now working as senior personnel/exec under Andrew Berry for the Browns. He's now put in a position to not fuck shit up building a roster. It is very fucking clear scouts/GMs mess up on their optics reaching for talent. Some are just fortunate and lucky enough to still have their job security.

[@esoteridactyl]

@@ThinkingFootball sure a KZbinr could be wrong too tho. The one thing we know is that hitting on a QB in the draft is extremely rare.

[@CerebralChaos]

I mean, the guy looks like an attempted clone of Zach Wilson, but with far goofier hair. That alone is probably enough to kick him off some draft boards 😂

[@davidsterzer1257]

Sounds a lot like your evaluation of Zack Wilson awhile back tbh

[@ektran4205]

jets ruins every qb they drafted since mark sanchez

[@paulgood2218]

Watching his combine highlights I thought same thing this guy is just to much like Zach Wilson. Hopefully he gets better coaching than Wilson .

[@ThinkingFootball]

His movement is far better in the pocket than Zach Wilson, who barely saw any pressure - Zach's athleticism was also restricted to college, where I think McCarthy's can still be a plus in the NFL. JJ also played against substantially better competition - Zachd big year was the COVID year where BYU had to fill their schedule with schools Rutgers would beat 30-0. I thought Zach Wilson was a 6th/7th round guy who would probs be a good scout team QB for a few years, I think McCarthy is probably a 3rd/4th rounder who's ceiling is being Ryan Tannehill in 6-9 years time with good coaching - that's not a first rounder , but he has a better base.

[@davidsterzer1257]

@@ThinkingFootball yea that is facts I would agree that zach had lower competition than JJ but watching zach I would say his athleticism was better than JJ but I haven’t watched JJ as much. Do you think JJ’s play by play choices will be better if he is on a team with a sub par defense because he very well could have been taking risks and shots with Michigan because of their amazing defense

[@ektran4205]

@@ThinkingFootball jets ruin rookie qbs

[@awesomechilled9779]

msu fan and i saw this guy ream my absolutely washed team for almost 50 points last year. I think Mccarthy is getting pushed to the top 5 by a lot of media talk who want as many qbs to talk abt early as possible for their draft coverage. I don't think he'll be there, but he's the perfect late first early second round guy. Hope he does well and doesn't go to some garbage organization

[@treppacoles8856]

11:10 Yep! You not getting away with that too much in the NFL.

[@davebarnes6672]

Understand these QB’s are at different levels of development. While these first round draft picks show promise, what is difficult to assess is what their ceiling is. The better ones may have a lower ceiling while one that’s that’s not too far behind may have a much higher ceiling. Generally, these guys reach their full potential if they are allowed to set a yr or two, learn the system and benefit from NFL level coaching. But let’s remember that discipline of the field is a big part of the equation. Remember Johnny Football? He had all the talent, all the ability but a big NFL Payday ruined him. Had he had the discipline? He would not only still be in the league but a top tier QB in this league but we have seen this before at other positions and the end result is pretty much the same. Long story short-short the draft is an educated crap shoot. We have seen many number ones go bust and guys like Brady come along and you seriously question the abilities of the scouts.

[@Scotts_Totts]

You misspelled drake maye

[@yuan81]

Feels like Jalen Hurts coming out of college

[@realjcoop182]

His arm was bigger than Jalen's

[@antball775]

To me can’t get better at accuracy anticipation or how well you read defenses to me it’s just not enough there to warrant a first round pick if it was 3rd or 4th I think you can live with it to be honest all the Qb’s besides Williams is a stretch if there first round guys

[@VendevProd]

Yeah I think your wrong on this. I think JJ will be great, and a FRANCHISE quarterback.

[@B.Piercesports]

Plus last season at michigan the pass blocking was bad. Not like 2022.