JJ Watt Talks TJ Watt Skipping NFL Honors After Defensive Player Of The Year "Snub" | Pat McAfee

[@pierrevalentino5250]

"When did you know you were the defensive player of the year all those years you were DPOY" JJ: "I mean, when I finished the season cause I was the best" great answer from WAHHHDTT

[@stoneylonesome5826]

A simpler time.

[@sportislife4012]

I frigging LOVE jj watt- he's so authentic- loves his brother; respects the players brotherhood Is fugged off at the league 😂😂😂😂😂

[@nickoftime3170]

No one ever accused Parsons of being intelligent…

[@205BeezyB]

He’s definitely far from it lol it’s written on his face

[@akray1153]

@@205BeezyB he does look like a child with a beard 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@205BeezyB]

@@akray1153 yea you can tell he a big dummy 😂😂😂

[@klmn4346]

He a far better pass rusher than crybaby watt

[@jaybird9988]

If Im TJ, I am never going to one of these award banquets ever again. Id have JJ accept the award on my behalf....trash the committee...then walk off stage with the award still sitting on the podium.

[@upstairscat87]

This fired me up

[@Opieboi]

And u be a 🐱 just like tj

[@upstairscat87]

@@Opieboi say that to TJs face while you’re lined up at right tackle

[@Opieboi]

@@upstairscat87 Tj just like me crying on the internet, he’s a 🐈 don’t know how fantasies are gonna change that

[@upstairscat87]

@@Opieboi yeah, you’re right. The single season sack leader is definitely a massive 🐈

[@akray1153]

Bro that's the most pissed off JJ Watt i have seen in YEARS

[@klmn4346]

Maybe he should get better

[@ohgeazy]

wdym

[@o4tw382]

Watt just exposed that players know they’re winning before it’s decided and now I know why certain players don’t even show up

[@hectorcastle1187]

You really didn’t know that?

[@collectiiv_co]

A lot of award shows do this, it isn’t really exposing anything

[@Mythowars]

I remember the year Westbrook got the triple double record. And the mvp that year. I saw so many people online saying that harden should’ve won it. I don’t know exact numbers but I think harden was averaging something like 35 points plus a game for pretty much the entire season. He was having a crazy year and on the rockets who at the time were much better then okc. But Russ got the record and James never even went to the show. I remember that’s when I learned they let players know ahead of time at these things. And also don’t get me wrong averaging a triple double is great too but I think consistently putting up monster numbers is even better.

[@tonix9125]

@@Mythowars how is putting up triple doubles every night not considered putting up big numbers.. your statement makes 0 sense

[@Mythowars]

@@Nunya7211 ah ok it was Giannis not westbrick. Either way no matter who it is averaging 35 and still not winning is nutty. My bad on not having the right info I already was thinking and typing didn’t wanna google haha. Same time period I think. Maybe a year or two between those mvps. I wasn’t really ever into harden until that year dude was snapping in games putting numbers up.

[@juliansmith1620]

Garret had 1 sack the last 8 weeks of the season and he’s the best? HOW?!

[@tjz3158]

Because he’s BLA-

[@jeffeyjeffey8]

@@tjz3158 That and they love the Browns

[@davidmcelhattan1826]

because the NFL is rigged and they always favor the Browns.

[@gengar6470]

Look at the what the defense did overall with his impact , the double teams he consistently created wtf….. the pressure rate forcing early throws that get tipped or picked wtf…. Bunch of couch coaches thinking Myles is some slouch who just took half the season off .. bunch of dick heads that clearly didn’t watch any of the games ..

[@EdBate]

he was also doubled all year long and had a higher win rate, 37 pressures, but if you want it to be a box score award thats fine. i do think he should've won tho having said that but people acting like the stats = everything and Myles wasnt even close to the award is just weird to me. TJ also had a few unblocked sacks so i think thats what gave myles the edge but then again did they even look at TJs coverage ability? idk.

[@yharnamsunrise9528]

Everyone reading this comment only had one less sack in 7 weeks than the "DPOTY"

[@tripsaplenty1227]

one fewer sack.

[@12gaugedanny96]

@@tripsaplenty1227Stannis Baratheon headass

[@lucky13demo]

I had one less sack then the DPOTY in the last 7 weeks and I also never hit anyone in the head with a helmet ⛑️

[@berry5557]

Good thing sacks aren’t the only thing an edge rusher can do

[@KnicksFtw2012]

@@berry5557good thing TJ watt beat Myles Garrett in every other stat as well outside of sacks lol. Why even keep track of stats, they clearly don’t matter. Skin color sure does.

[@DetroitTyler]

Guys like TJ not winning DPOY when he's clearly the best defender straight up hurts the shield. When you misaward players it hurts the integrity of the game because it messes up the legacy's of players. When the paint dries and they start comparing players, and HOF credentials and everything else it's a massive blunder and it makes it look like the league doesn't know what it's doing. It's like when Kobe Bryant post Shaq had a terrible roster, averages something like 36.6 wins the scoring title and literally carries his Lakers to the playoffs and Steve Nash gets MVP with pedestrian numbers because his team won the most games. There's not a player in the league at that time that you could have swapped Kobe with who'd have gotten that team into the playoffs. So when they get it wrong badly, it's a blackmark on the league and the guys handing out accolades.

[@sweeti902]

nailed it

[@theptandjchannel]

Not really. That’s how you look at it bro

[@klmn4346]

TJ not even around the Convo in terms of defending the run. He's too soft. He gets easy sacks because he's terrible lmao Myles is top 10 in run defense tho

[@yadaidig]

PFF was glazing Myles all year

[@EdBate]

myles played well all year tho even when he was doubled 2x as much he was getting pressures just didnt get those box score stats. TJ also had a bunch of untouched sacks

[@zwink623]

​@@EdBateokay, how many passes did myles defend?

[@recursions]

Myles deserves half a trophy to mark his 2nd half disappearance.

[@jonahjohn4095]

@@EdBatehe didn’t play well all year. He played well For 10 games. Like he always does

[@EdBate]

@@Weakmencreatetoughtimes calm down lady. I understand facts trigger you but it will be okay

[@RedMo46]

What the hell does TJ need to do to win DPOY?! Honestly… His impact is clear, his stats are top of the top and teams game plan specifically to stop him. Im no Steelers fan but my god TJ has earned it at least twice already

[@MarkZickefoose]

So has Garrett.

[@nickoftime3170]

Be black.

[@dylanholman3]

@@MarkZickefooseno

[@MarkZickefoose]

@@dylanholman3 Whatever, Stooler fan.

[@LuckyAJC]

​@@MarkZickefooseGarrett was not dpoy from a chiefs fan

[@DC4L99]

I’m a Cowboys fan and I can admit he got robbed of it. The way they vote on these awards is awful.

[@RainBow-ng8uz]

It is not only Steelers fans that see the BS. Coming from a cowboy fan is a stand up move.

[@BartBasquiato]

@@R_G88888 maybe cause they got Parsons & he been delusional so a cowboys fan not being one is why.

[@0fficial_601]

@@R_G88888cuz people think u being a fan of tht players team will make them think you’ll always defend them no matter what. But it’s different when other fans see it the same way as you

[@danielshirley3267]

TJ deserved the award Myles was who the media wanted We now know which of those is more important

[@nicoli3427]

was the same thing with Lamar, he didn't even come close to deserving MVP

[@pebblehunter1567]

Lookup Myles's double team rate compared to T.J.'s

[@jahiemjohnson4352]

@@nicoli3427how didn’t he? He was the best player on the best team and the mvp obviously a qb award

[@jakubswatowski1007]

@@pebblehunter1567 so just because he gets double teamed more he wins the award even tho hes worse in every single stat and by a lot sometimes?? also the double team rate doesnt count the chips TJ is always getting from RBs/TEs and hes playing Edge not like Myles whos playing DE, of course hes gonna get double teamed more thats how it works.

[@pebblehunter1567]

@@jakubswatowski1007 If you get double teamed your not gonna put up stats right? Look at the sacks that TJ's getting. They're either leaving him with a no name tackle or 2 of the 19 sacks he got were him getting chipped. Rarely did he have to get through more than one person to get a sack.

[@Rowsy91]

weekly JJ segments are always awesome

[@BeanieDoggerson]

For brainless idiots

[@Love2Musgrave]

rare vikings w

[@ScarfaceKingOfKings]

I wanted Myles Garrett to win the DPOY at some point in his career. Having said that, his game always seems to curtail the second half of the season. Did he face a crazy amount of double teams? Yes, but he should have produced more. TJ deserved it simply due to the fact that he's the best pass rusher in the NFL. Period.

[@stoneylonesome5826]

TJ gets held on virtually every snap, but I don’t see that slowing him down.

[@justinedwards904]

@@stoneylonesome5826wrong

[@siniister710]

@@stoneylonesome5826 13% double team vs almost 30%. Single block myles 87% of the time and see what happens sir

[@Steelmade58]

​@siniister710 you ever wonder why they'd call it a win rate if the pass rush does not end in a sack? 🤔

[@asilayinruins808]

​@@siniister710lol, tj literally gets held on almost every play, and he gets chipped by te's which doesn't count as double teamed. So you're saying that the best played is the one who gets double teamed the most? And pass rush win rate... so u "almost"got to the qb? That's cute, tj actually GETS ti the qb

[@03Man11]

Winning DPOY on pass rush win rate alone is kinda silly. It’s such a subjective idea. You could win your pass rush in someone’s view and still not affect the play. Yet, I’ve seen TJ lose a pass rush and still get an interception at the line of scrimmage. Just ask Joe Burrow.

[@Boblib1970]

I disagree....I mean, with the game on the line who would you rather have.....the guy with the best win percentage, or the guy who actually sacks the QB and causes fumbles? 🤣🤣🤣

[@vegastjg]

@@Boblib1970 He beat his man at a greater percentage, yet TJ finished the pass rush with a sack at a higher rate. Does finishing not matter now?

[@Boblib1970]

@@vegastjg psssst....it was sarcasm

[@deaj8450]

Also pass rush win rate is itself a flawed statistic. You can win your rush only to have the linemen let you run 5 yards around him, letting the qb step up in the pocket. A left tackle pushing their opponent and making them run wide still counts as a "pass rush win" for the defender if he technically gets by them. When in reality, the o line is meant to stop sacks by any means necessary. If letting the pass rusher run wide past them buys their qb time to throw, they will take that "loss" 10 times out of 10.

[@0fficial_601]

@@Boblib1970whats the point in winning in pass rush rate if u not getting anything from it for 8 STRAIGHT WEEKS😂😂. Basically got dpoy for ALMOST getting sacks😭😭

[@phasedoz7239]

All I'm saying is if you can get gameplanned out for 8 straight weeks then you shouldn't be dpoy😂

[@luismarichalar7156]

Thank you bro tj was irrelevant as crud this year , definitely didn't deserve it

[@violapeachey108]

​@@luismarichalar7156So leading the NFL in sacks is irrelevant.

[@luismarichalar7156]

@@violapeachey108 yeah he wasn't much of a game wrecker as Garret

[@luismarichalar7156]

@@violapeachey108 bafoons

[@184Dadada]

​@luismarichalar7156 you musta been watching the AFL. Or you're an ugly troll. Probably the latter. Good for nothin.

[@kopes28]

Will never not be pissed that GB skipped over TJ Watt, a Wisconsin team passing over a top pick of a Wisconsin boy who is the brother of another Wisconsin legend.

[@trueempire8948]

I didn’t watch alot Steelers games this past season to know but the few I did see TJ jumped out of my screen just Dominant.

[@deaj8450]

They are 1-11 without him since drafting him. I've never seen a defensive player with his level of impact, even guys like Ed Reed, Polamalu, or even his older brother. TJ is a different kind of beast.

[@l.rongardner2150]

How good a player is TJ Watt? So good that residents of Tijuana, where I now live, proudly refer to our town as TJ, to honor Watt.

[@roddywhittemore493]

Lame

[@p_2094]

Weakest dad joke I seen lol

[@shawnevans1444]

It's sad that TJ has to break the record every year to force the NFL N AP to get it right! What they do to TJ every year is CRIMINAL!

[@ctconstrictors5193]

Should have 3 by now for sure

[@lincolnmaceachern2410]

I've loved the Steelers since 1972, but I couldn't care less about the individual awards. I think and hope he uses the snub as motivation next season ; I really hope he plays every game.

[@jackfredricks6223]

Do you honestly think his motivation is anything less than 100%?!?

[@Crazyfootballguy]

Spot on: " What's he supposed to do next year? what? 50 sacks? " exactly. You're the best player in the league on every stat line, and didn't even play every game, and you don't have that award as a slam dunk. ridiculous.

[@zwink623]

How many years are madden and the NFL going to lie to us and say Myles is a better edge rusher than TJ watt when the stats are the stats? Just curious.

[@wafflewafflegod]

He kinda looks like that guy who played for the Texans

[@wayner44]

Idk dude, looks more like this guy who played for the cardinals

[@c.j.morrison1386]

Everybody talking about double teams….Chris Jones faced them 73% of the time and got 10 sacks. By that stat he was way more deserving than MG

[@Cardel34]

I dont understand how Garrett got on that stage and accepted the award with a straight face

[@pebblehunter1567]

I don't understand why you think TJ deserves the award after crying like a little baby on twitter.

[@RollTideTony]

The truth ain’t crying Jagoff. Garrett had 1 sack in the last 7 weeks of the season. That one more than I had during that same span. Myles didn’t deserve it and Parsons is ignorant if he thinks otherwise as are you.

[@pebblehunter1567]

@@RollTideTony I see everyone is taking after TJ now and crying about him not winning on the internet

[@clintholt563]

@@RollTideTonylmfao you sound hurt 😢

[@brianchamberlain7422]

TJ is a beast, let him play next season with that chip on his shoulder.

[@jacobwilson7030]

Myles Garrett won DPOY because the voters got together and said “Well he hasn’t won one yet and we can’t give it to TJ every year” This year and 2020 TJ had better stats than Aaron Donald and Myles Garrett but got snubbed. He’s going to have to pull out at 25 sack season to win again

[@bobhanson1037]

AD you can make strong arguments for at least. Now Garrett...

[@diseasedpanda7418]

​@bobhanson1037 hes doubled on every snap of course a lb is gonna have better stats when he blitzes

[@jacobwilson7030]

@@diseasedpanda7418 he’s also playing with a top 10 secondary which give him more time to beat blockers and still managed to not get a sack the entire back half of the season. It was lazy voting just like the MVP. Best player on the best defensive unit and the stats don’t matter. The fact that he had a down year this year proves my point. They gave it to him to give it to him

[@Noah-s8v2k]

i almost understand the arguement for AD getting it in 2020 bc of position value but with myles there was no excuse

[@jusman43]

Tj got snubbed

[@BigDaddyBeefPatty]

"Whatdya want? 50 sacks?" IM SAYIN!!! PREEEEEAAACH!!

[@karenhardie1132]

They must know ahead of time if they win.

[@BigDaddyBeefPatty]

I nearly snapped my thumbs in half trying to click on this. I BEEN WAITIN ON THIS!!! 👏👏👏. SSSSNNNNUUUUUUUBBBBBBEEEEDDDD!!!!!!

[@mlee81]

You can look at the stats, but look at the GAMES. You can give at least 3 games balls directly to TJ Watt for the Steelers win. When TJ is out the Steelers lose. He's that important to this team

[@prdamico]

TJ WAS DPOY, even Miles "the clown" garret knows this.....

[@AttilatheThrilla]

NFL Honours are as real as that guitar solo during the halftime show

[@lastreal4111]

Damnnn so this is what a hater sounds like smh

[@deaj8450]

I don't know, as an actual guitarist myself she looked like she was playing legit. I was impressed, though I would have to go back and slow mo it to really see what she's playing. However, even if she faked it she is far more convincing than 99.9% of people who fake playing guitar.

[@AttilatheThrilla]

@@lastreal4111 It’s not hate when it’s a fact

[@willt3608]

@@deaj8450I think she recorded it and basically lip synced the solo, because she definitely played it, the notes looked like they matched the finger placement

[@deaj8450]

@@willt3608 That's possible, she definitely knows how to play though. No fake guitarist is moving their fingers that accurately, and her picking was also convincing. We've seen enough fake guitarists to know when someone is legit.

[@aidanmccoy5964]

The craziest part is most of y’all don’t realize that Watt and Garret play different positions. Garret is a DE and Watt is OLB, both “edge rushers” just in 4-3 or 3-4. Double team rate is only counted towards two linemen blocking one defender. DEs routinely get doubled by o line but have a shorter distance to the QB and have 3 other DL rushing usually. Whereas OLBs gets chipped by TEs and RBs and have to drop into coverage (both of which happened to TJ a lot this season). Not saying this makes either a better player, y’all just need to know the facts before you comment about double team rate.

[@jaybird9988]

Very solid point and I agree with everything you said. Now, which player had the better season? Keep in mind we have stats to track this. One seems like a clear winner to me.

[@aidanmccoy5964]

@@jaybird9988 Garrett had more dominant moments, but TJ had an overall stronger season and was deserving DPOY.

[@jaybird9988]

@@aidanmccoy5964 I agree 👍

[@cozm1q14]

@@jaybird9988who? IMO TJ took over the stat sheet if youre talking abt that

[@Boblib1970]

@@aidanmccoy5964 More dominate moments? LOLOLOL The guy was absent the last 7 weeks of the season. TJ Watts back up had more sacks than Garrett over that time. His B-A-C-K-U-P lololol

[@lopez_flex1258]

The NFL cut JJ from exposing the award ceremony 😅

[@johnpymn9869]

TJ was def the DPOY,, Garrett plays when he wants to play and DISAPPEARS when he's most needed,, ( playoff game ) TJ comes to play EVERY down.

[@nicholasmelchor3038]

And TJ Watt was injured and didn’t play in the playoff game and the Steelers lost. Adding to your point on Garret playing and they still lose badly. It’s no wonder we don’t know most of these voters bc they know they snubbed so many awards in the past and they can’t shake the embarrassment

[@theo8064]

I honestly think they only gave Myles the DPOY because he probably will never get another chance at one. His body is declining and he’s due one. But for them to give it to him this year was a slap in TJ’s face.

[@mattwhittenberger7687]

Jj watt vs john cena ego match only = entertainment gold

[@aaronjade3972]

Look at the stats and you can’t even believe how TJ didn’t easily win …. It’s some BS 🤬🤬🤬

[@ericramirez6146]

Snubbed two years in a row

[@bryanclark5924]

No last year he was out injured for too long and didn't have the real stats. This year and the 2020 season were true snubs

[@ericramirez6146]

@@bryanclark5924 Those are the ones I was referring to. Nonetheless subbed.

[@kloeffler]

can we get a JJ watt new hair style tutorial?

[@scottgood7888]

There's no question that TJ should've won the award over Garrett. Just look at the stats across the board. However, having said that as a Steelers fan, I thought Daron Bland's 9 picks and 5 pick-6s was easily the best defensive performance of the 2023 NFL season. But there's no way TJ should've lost to Garrett. What a joke! The whole NFL is becoming a joke.

[@johnpaquin366]

I respect jj for standing up for the other guys... but like come on... tj was the best. Imo most impact full defensive player

[@herfjones3]

That was 4:30 of feeling super uncomfortable

[@FreyjaValkyr]

Myles was getting that award from the start of the season no matter what he did, he has made up stats like Pass Rush Win Rate and Double Team Rate, we dont care about production, we care about almost production.

[@stoneylonesome5826]

Someone else said it best, it’s like rewarding the guy who gets out of the blocks first instead of the guy who actually crossed the finish line first.

[@upstairscat87]

Who’s telling Myles to his face that he didn’t earn that award? 😂

[@josejh-eb8st]

No one bc he'll hit them with a helmet and then deflect blame like an immature pos

[@versacebent]

probably the same fan that punched him in the face

[@YOUfailME911]

If he wanted DPOTY he should have had less qb sacks and more potential sacks.

[@jamesstewart8263]

Tj watt is an above average edge rusher.

[@klmn4346]

Barely

[@kentsturgill5945]

See Micah, that's how you handle that's ish!! No mud slinging like a damn politician

[@kgthegreatone943]

T.J. clearly deserved it

[@smithfamily7590]

jj is one or two all time of his passion

[@mattb6118]

Miles Garrett got the affirmative action award!

[@klmn4346]

Tj did nothing in run defense 🤡🤡🤡

[@Ivan_Lukic_]

@@klmn4346 Myles did nothing in coverage🤡🤡🤡

[@omni-man4624]

​@@klmn4346N.ur a 🤡

[@omni-man4624]

Sign of the times anti white...Like the W and CC!

[@mattwhittenberger7687]

Love pat prying at jj good entertainment here

[@rockndarec]

Tj been snubbed atleast 3-4 times honestly

[@AB-iw4kw]

TJ Watt is a OLB. He drops in coverage. Miles is a DE.

[@klmn4346]

Myles performed better pass rushing and run defense. TJ plays on the run side. Myles plays on the pass side

[@zackamig4446]

Tj should legitimately have at least 3 DPOY titles

[@stevenwebb1078]

TJWatt. Games played:17 Solo tackles: 48 Assisted tackles:20 Combined tackles:68 Tackles for loss:19 Sacks: 19.0 Passes defended:8 Interceptions:1 Forced fumbles: 4 Fumble recoveries: 3 Myles Garrett. Games played: 16 Solo tackles 33 Assited tackles: 9 Combined tackles: 42 Tackles for loss: 17 Sacks: 14.0 Passes defended: 3 Interceptions: 0 Forced Fumbles:4 Fumble recoveries: 1 Tj dominated the so called Defensive Player of the year

[@nw6003]

I would've taken TJ, Trey Hendrickson, and PARTICULARLY Maxx Crosby, BEFORE taking myles garrett as the DPOY 🤷‍♂

[@sid6972]

I am happy to know 3 former Players in Panther History are #2,#3,and #4 in NFL Sack history!!! Reggie White and Kevin Green(The Dream Team) late 1990s! Julious Pepper 🌶 Hot and Nasty on the line!!! Keep Pounding!!!!

[@kingkrow420]

GUYS GET OVER IT MYLES DID A COOL CROSSOVER MOVE THINGY HE DESERVED IT

[@JoeFixIt75]

How an award that is chosen by other humans can be bet on is beyond me. Funny how the one guy that had the best stats up and down the page and was most consistent all year, had the worst odds of winning the award, and myles was the odds on favorite and "wins" is a bit telling. How much did vegas stand to lose if TJ won?

[@TheJames0195]

Cowboys and steelers play in Pittsburgh next year...hope Dak's body can cash the check that Micah wrote.

[@oddrknot4]

There’s the WATT standard, and then the rest. This year, they let the rest shine to make them feel relevant

[@matthewmcnamarabeats7182]

What’s the point of stats then..? That’s what it should be about, not a popularity contest

[@wjmoore17]

JJ Watt would make a great politician.

[@shanecydrus6591]

As a Browns fan, I know other Browns fans know Garret didnt deserve DOP this year. Watt was productive all the way til the end.

[@sisnaustinyazzie-mcdonald1282]

Damn jj go help tj out, you know you want to

[@danahettrick2378]

The real question is TJ Watt pissed behind closed doors. I wouldn't want to be a QB this year if he is.

[@OfficialYSLsimba]

It’s like of your a Steelers you will always be snubbed as a football player! The steeler hate is too real

[@JonBlier]

Parsons and Garrett both disappeared the last 3 games of the season .

[@SatansBirdLawExpert]

ATTA BOY, TJ! I love him being that kinda petty

[@kennethwoll3517]

Cam Hayward was announced as Walter Payton man of year award on Steelers website 2 hrs before honors mentioned it

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"the bloodline is stronger than it's ever been with the Rock" 💯

[@craiggourley1317]

The pass rush win rate is a totally made up stat. It's the percentage of times a pass rusher wins a matchup in 2.5 seconds or less. So if the pass rusher beats a blocker in 2.6 seconds and gets a sack it would be considered a win for the blocker in that situation. Need I say more ???

[@cmo4thepeople]

i feel like everyone misinterpreted what jj was saying

[@RainBow-ng8uz]

As a50 year Steelers fan only one trophy matters. This is not the standard but even rebuilding we are still a team to worry about. Without TJ it gets a lot easier to beat. That has to change but he is out QB on the D and a game changer. Not many D players can say that.

[@famousibarra1]

Let's be real Mad Maxx the only one that should be feeling salty about DPOY.

[@nicoli3427]

I don't understand how people can sit there and say "TJ Watt got screwed" and at the same time say "Lamar deserved MVP". Fact is neither of them should have won (Myles), and neither of them should have even been top 5. MVP should have gone to Dak/Josh/Purdy/McCaffrey and DPOY should have gone to TJ.

[@KrizpyB33F]

ask JJ next week why players who play for Wisconsin sports never get respected like other states and colleges

[@clydefrog708]

Well that was a big nuthin mcmuffin

[@JohnDavidRicker]

gotta keep the burnley hat on utc

[@isaacshaver6218]

So TJ is 2nd in class along with being the 2nd best defensive player in the NFL 😅

[@bobdabolina1274]

The rewards mean nothing now, Betting has ruined competition

[@chipperwater6128]

Here are the facts, every browns fan/steelers hater is going to say Myles deserved it, every steelers fan/browns hater is going to say Watt deserved it because they are each rightfully bias. Now if you look at people that are not attached to either fan base, the overwhelming majority say Watt deserved it. The things that people say about Garrett and why he deserves it are all subjective and can be applied to Watt as well, “he’s a game wrecker” “he takes over games” “they game plan against him”, all can be said for Watt. The only statistical difference that Garrett has over watt is double team percentage, the kicker is that PFF doesn’t classify what they count as a double team. Garrett lines up more on the interior than watt because they play different positions so Garrett faces more of the traditional guard/tackle double teams. Watt always lines up way on the outside so he typically faces chip blocks and running back help, we don’t know if those get counted as a double team even though watt still has to beat 2 players. Furthermore, watt has been way more impactful in the pass game, people say Garrett gets double teamed and still gets sacks, that’s cool but is it as impactful as an interception, fumbles, and TD’s? All of which Watt had more of. Finally, Garrett got 1 sack in the last stretch of games, if a player is getting double teamed and game planned against and it totally removes them from the game than they shouldn’t win an award for it, that’s like having a WR that gets double coverage a majority of plays and puts up above average numbers, doesn’t lead in any category, and only scores 1 TD in the last 6 weeks and they get OPOY. As for Parsons brain dead take, who cares if you have the best pass rush win rate if you are not finishing the play? Cool, you beat the offensive lineman across from you but the QB still made a 15 yard completion, congratulations I guess? Again, that’s like having a WR running a nasty route, putting the CB on the ground with broken ankles, getting 10 yards open but dropping the pass. What good is winning a pass rush if you can’t get a sack or TFL.

[@adleec1714]

So you must think Parsons deserved the award because he does all the off-ball stuff Watt does but still faces more double teams.

[@chrishook1815]

Fun fact the dpoy is not a pass rusher trophy. It's who made the most impact as There have been exactly 6 DT's that won DPOY 5 safety's that have won DPOY 6 corner backs that have won DPOY 13 linebackers that won DPOY and 10 DE's that have won DPOY I didn't count multiple wins as it was the same player still the DPOY isn't determined by the how many times a player can get to the QB as it's rare for a corner or safety to get to the QB. People forget that greats like Troy polamalu was a Safety and deon sanders was a corner back who I don't remember seeing deon getting sacks but he still won DPOY

[@johnnygold753]

Miles garrett winning d e I of the year is 😂😂😂😂 Completely ridiculous. Of course he won DEI.

[@theman1412]

JJ’s ticked his brother didn’t win (Let the guest speak Pat)

[@cski4048]

I agree with JJ.

[@SippinDew]

Tj should have 3 if not 4 DPOY

[@jdgiii2407]

Real question. Does anyone know AJ Hawk's internet service provider and or booster/router set up?

[@onepercent3697]

Miles gets the awards and tj gets the checks sad though cause they awards actually mean something to this family

[@jf4107]

I’m pretty sure they reveal winners before awards. Don’t think MCDC was there Demeco Ryan might have been. Both more deserving than Stefanski the choker. I’m a die hard Lions fan but Demeco Ryan should have won that award easily.

[@tpm2387]

It's no surprise TJ Watt was snubbed again this is like the 3rd time he was snubbed he has lead the league 3 or 4 times only player in NFL history to do that the NFL doesn't like the Steelers or TJ Watt they even take sacks away from him they did it a couple of times this year and the year he tied the record and they stoped his record breaking sack it's crazy

[@YDINO69]

If TJ Watt wasn’t the color he is he would’ve won

[@jaylasky4313]

If you could add either player to your team, all else being even, I don't think any GM takes Watt over Garrett(outside of PA anyway). That is an opinion and can I have not information to back it up, but I think it's correct.

[@jaylasky4313]

Furthermore, if this award is based on total sacks, there is a pile of players over decades that have a lot of questions about where their award is.

[@timprall5417]

​@@jaylasky4313But if there is an award for being top five in every category that the NFL is based on, TJ was in all of them and Myles was in non of them! There isn't a stat for holding either, which TJ also would have won. He's so good, they don't even call holds even if he is thrown to the turf! Still, every NFL stat, he was the best by far! So if you were held and even slung to the ground multiple times during every game, where PFF's stats for that!????? Complete bias crap is what they are! But unless you actually watch both players, you would be that naive.

[@LeviStutzman]

I guess by this logic, Baker Mayfield should’ve won MVP. Stats were far better than Lamar’s.

[@griseldagrinders4022]

JJ a beast 1st ballot HOF but he's not a top 5 all time pass-rusher