Weird Canada iceberg EXPLAINED

[@flmacphee1158]

WOW! that got dark

[@georgeiii2998]

I concur

[@aaronstanley6914]

it really did, what is scary though is I know of two other fairly to really dark cases from Canadian history. that wasn't covered in this video, leaving me to ask how many more are there?

[@Armera]

Yes, it did

[@swissbreeze]

No more Indians in canada

[@soupdoggo__]

That tone of voice shift too, wow that put me on edge

[@Jeremy-yp8eh]

As an American, the more I learn about Canada, the more I find that, contrary to their wholesome reputation, y'all are actually every bit as fucked up as we are, and that's oddly heart-warming.

[@netgnostic1627]

As a Canadian I value the wholesome rep, and that makes me want to live up to it, and I think lots of other Canadians feel that way. I hope this gives us a better actual result in the long run. (But I agree, a lot of ƒʋƈƙed-up things do happen here.)

[@MooshroomsRCool]

Exactly, we act morally superior but our history is quite grim

[@EthanLiu-z3k]

Ca c'est pas gentil!

[@pyrotechnic96]

@@MooshroomsRCool birds of a feather flock together. our conditions are extremely similar so outcomes were also similar.

[@barryhaley7430]

@@MooshroomsRCoolNo more grim than any other.

[@glasspomegranate]

As a French immersion kid I had to watch téléfrancais as a child and let me tell you, the face of that stupid hellish pineapple has haunted me ever since

[@Luboman411]

Remember, en francais it is ananas. LOL.

[@Barkii]

this channel is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get

[@dibsdibs3495]

The thumbnails usually give you a general idea so they’re the equivalent of the back of the box that tells you all the flavors.

[@lostcauselancer333]

This channel is like a box of chocolates. I ravenously devour it entirely as soon as I get my hands on it.

[@angusmcnay5449]

BOOOOO

[@amallen94]

Totally!

[@tipsgamez4447]

It's always a good day when someone quotes Forrest Gump

[@bigbrothertw]

I really appreciate how JJ took the later areas of the ice berg with a large degree of seriousness and dignity

[@JimmyThaJam]

The gradual darkening of the room mixed with the increasingly somber tone was really impressive.

[@michaele1654]

I just graduated with a degree in political science from a University in the Maritime Provinces, and I wanted to bring up the Irving Family as a weird bit of the Canadian iceberg. As an American, I was shocked to suddenly be living in a province where most local newspapers are owned by the same oil barons that own most of the industry in the province, and also almost all provincial politicians get donations from them as well. Drive a few miles north of Maine, and you'll end up in what is almost a hereditary oligarchy

[@llucmou]

New Brunswick? Hahaha every time Im researching about New Brunswick the Irving family pops up, and everybody seems to have an opinion about them

[@HBon111]

I dated a girl from NB and she had a lot to say about them as well.

[@lfreezin3640]

That's definitely NB for you. You get a lot less of that in NS, PEI and NL. Although they still hold a great deal of power

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

Why would you, as an American, be shocked about it?

[@ZeteticPhilosopher]

@@georgelloydgonzalez Because America, despite what it is popular to say online, is not actually run by a few powerful families, and doesn’t really resemble an oligarchy in any way, or even a plutocracy. Corporations are far more important than individual rich people, but even they get burned if they don’t fall in line (see Disney Corp. vs the Disney family).

[@thattimestampguy]

1:09 Ogopogo, The Sea Monster 🌊 1:47 Canadian Desert 🏜 2:17 Sour Toe Cocktail 🍹 2:43 Prairie Oyster 2:55 French Lyrics to O’Canada 3:36 Je Suis Un Ananas 4:08 Trudeau, son of Fidel Castro? 4:48 Queen Elizabeth Money 5:13 Weird PSAs 5:43 Oak Island Money Pit 6:17 Mackenzie King 6:44 Shag Harbor 7:08 The Peanut Butter Solution 7:48 Brother XII 8:24 Feet washed up on BC Beaches 8:56 Mussolini 9:16 Anne of Green Gables 9:49 Makeship Sponsorship 11:17 Raelians

[@ronjames9759]

I love you

[@DarkLink606]

People like you help me restore my faith in humanity.

[@Skyhi.Visuals]

Very much appreciated

[@cherrycolareal]

​@@ronjames9759?

[@Colty03]

New JJ video, AND its over 20 minutes long, AND it's a list of random tidbits on Canadian culture and history? LETS go :)

[@Colty03]

On further watching, tidbits was perhaps the wrong word to describe some of those things further down the iceberg.

[@dude1sec]

Thanks for your content! I've been looking forward to Saturdays for a while now to watch your videos, and I love how creative, fun, and fascinating your videos consistently are! Thank you, friend!

[@willg9106]

If I recall correctly the feet one is that they're disproportionately more likely to wash up, especially these days. Modern shoes are robust, synthetic and thick soled. They protect from sea life, don't degrade and float well. Its not just that there's bodies.

[@konjunktioner]

That makes a lot of sence! I was wondering why it was specifically feet.

[@crazydragy4233]

I recently saw a short on that! It said feet are also lacking in appetising apartment compared to something like a stomach. They're mostly bone and skin which isn't that much.

[@ConvincingPeople]

It's also because the tissue around the ankles tends to degrade quickly enough for the feet to be pulled off the body while the rest either sinks or is eaten by fish and such. Gruesome, but that's nature I guess.

[@raiisleep]

I thought it was people committing suicide and their feet snapping off when the hit the water

[@LittleRedRideMeGood69]

I was in BC when the 6th actual foot washed up. One was a paw in a shoe. 🤷🏻

[@RobustFilms1]

I didn't expect to see the Swastika Clubs Riot being mentioned here but it really is a fascination addition. I grew up as an Italian Canadian, and my dad (with his father) were first generation Italian immigrants to Canada in the 1950s. Oddly, when they moved to Little Italy in Toronto, my grandfather was surprised by how the Jewish Canadians in the area warmly welcomed him and his family. Turns out, the Italian-Canadians were also quite marginalized by the Anglo-Canadians when they first emigrated, and in the 'Christie Pit Riots' truckload of hundreds of local Italians with makeshift weapons / baseball bats came to defend the Jewish people who they felt were also subjugated by the Nazi Canadians. Italians beat up a bunch of Nazis and it was always seen as a kind gesture. To this day its an interesting relationship in some of the older Toronto neighborhoods.

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

That was so heartwarming. Thanks for sharing. 🙂

[@anitamariaa]

I love Saturday JJ but Sunday JJ is also excellent. As long as we get a weekend JJ I'm happy. Thanks for all you do, it's very much appreciated!! 🙂

[@professordogwood8985]

Here are my nominations: 1. Disappearance of Michael Dunahee (Disappeared as a child in Victoria at a playground, never seen again). 2. Robert "Willy" Pickton (Believed to have murdered 49 sex trader workers in Vancouver. Was convicted of murder). 3. Japanese Internment, Ukrainian Internment (People jailed during first and second world wars without conviction). 4. Highway of Tears (Highway in Northern BC where many female hitchhikers have gone missing). 5. Tranquille Sanatorium (Eerie closed down asylum in Kamloops, did not treat patients humanely). 6. Hell's Gate Rapids (Due to a blasting accident by the CN Railway, these rapids now block vessels from navigating the Fraser River. Ooops!) 7. Sasquatch (Much like Ogopogo, this guy hasn't been seen too much now that cameras have gotten better. I wonder why?)

[@tvfilmpoliticaljunky5057]

Not to forget about Yeti elements when discussing Sasquatch.

[@GorillaFan_32]

Total Drama (just kidding)

[@cherrycolareal]

​@@GorillaFan_32that would make my day. 😂

[@AnonBenjamin]

Damn the Highway one is fucked up

[@kyledaily9532]

When I took French in the US one of my professors made a really big deal about the conflicts between fishermen in Saint Pierre and Miquelon and the Canadian government and I've always found that to be a fairly interesting point in Canadian history

[@charlesmadre5568]

Oh yes didn't the French government state that Canada had a long way to go to becoming a "civilized country" over this issue?

[@strider_hiryu850]

there a book on that? or article(s)? i want to read about that.

[@Ghoulstille]

Indeed, France will never give up those island's.

[@charlesmadre5568]

@@Ghoulstille It won't give up those islands because the islanders don't want to leave. They get French social security but don't have to pay any tax.

[@sexygeek8996]

Canada should have invaded those islands and taken them over.

[@maximumgaming5o483]

My addition would be the "starlight tours". This was when Saskatoon police officers would arrest indigenous people, often with no reason, drive them to the edge of town during the winter night and leave them to freeze to death.

[@coadekat]

I'm pretty sure they then repeatedly attempted to vandalize the wikipedia page about the incidents too

[@xylophobiaa]

Not just Saskatoon, it happened, and probably still happens, in Winnipeg and likely many other places in Canada.

[@eugeniedesalpages]

It happened too in Val D'Or, Québec...

[@juniperjonestown]

And the highway of tears…over 40 indigenous women and children have gone missing or been murdered on that stretch of Highway 16 in BC since they started investigating in the 70’s

[@ajyu7289]

Good to confirm that Telefrançais was an actual thing my French teacher showed us in 2014 and not just some fever dream.

[@jarodh-m6099]

Very real. I both watched as a French student and used it when I was a French teacher.

[@graces1220]

Same lol

[@diepie5144]

my French teacher used to show episodes every Friday. Completely forgot it was from Canada

[@ShadowWizard123]

J.J. : "Frederick Banting was the inventor of insulin. " The Human Pancreas : " Excuse me?"

[@SomaCoreaix]

Call me morbid but I wouldn't mind you delving a bit deeper into the iceberg. Surely I'm not the only one? This was quite riveting though, thanks for all the interesting tidbits!

[@DotADBX]

most of canadas serial killers are kinda boring tbh, just your typical creeps that hunt the weak.

[@ConvincingPeople]

I was surprised at the absence of the Highway of Tears in this video, which is honestly a much bleaker subject than any single serial killer.

[@SomaCoreaix]

@@ConvincingPeople you are correct on that

[@SomaCoreaix]

@@DotADBX probably yeah, but it would be insightful to hear his take on them

[@christophernoneya4635]

Eh, i think the deeper part of the iceberg should be more obscure, not darker tbh. Its a range of things you should know vs things only a small group of people know, at least thats how it started

[@Silverpicker]

Wow this was super interesting. Really loved this video (glad you had the Devil's Head note in there!)

[@shrimpflea]

I still don't see it.

[@Carlito84Qc]

@@shrimpflea I stare at it a little while too and didn't saw it

[@CJonesApple]

After you showed off your book I remembered how frequent your illustrations used to make appearances between topics. I don't know if you thought they weren't appreciated as much as effort made to draw them but I was always rather fond of them.

[@JJMcCullough]

I don’t feel like I ever stopped!

[@gfox9295]

I too enjoy JJ's artwork. Please share more!

[@vich8810]

When people are talking about dark, disturbing or mysterious topics and icebergs they are sometimes intriguing and fascinating but they can also be depressing and morbid. So it's sort of a double edged sword. So I appreciate you covering these topics. There is alot of stuff I didn't know about Canada some interesting but others dark. When people think of Canada, they probably think of the royal mounted police or the snow and cold or the nice, friendly people there but it's interesting to see they have dark secrets and history, just like everywhere else.

[@uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753]

My personal Weird Canadian Iceberg would definitely include Theodore the Tugboat, who lived in Nova Scotia before getting repossessed to Ontario. I always loved it growing up as a kid, but when he came thru Toronto and I brought my friends to witness his glory, they all made fun of it and said he was horrifying!!! I’m still mad about it.

[@matts2436]

Haha I remember going on that as a kid, I thought it was awesome

[@TrickiVicBB71]

I fondly remember that tv show

[@briskcabbage6163]

They’re sickos who are incapable of appreciating true art

[@ImranZakhaev9]

Theodore is one of those things that I can’t tell if it’s was a dream or reality. I swear I remember seeing it in Halifax when I was a kid, but then it vanished from my memory ever since.

[@TankEngine75]

Finally someone who talks about it, Theodore Tugboat is a good show!

[@ctlc]

I'm surprised Japanese internment camps didn't make the list, not super deep but something not everyone realizes happened in Canada. Maybe a little deeper could be the transcanada railway being completed with Chinese indentured servitude and sacrificed lives.

[@chrisvickers7928]

Back in the 1950's on a family vacation in the Okanagan my father pointed out an abandoned Japanese internment camp. I would have been quite young but I remember it as barbed wire enclosing some flimsy looking wooden huts with some tarpaper still hanging here and there. It sat on a bald slope beside the highway and must have been very hot in summer and very cold in winter.

[@sofiatgarcia3970]

@@chrisvickers7928 Indeed, and though they happened before my time they occurred in my backyard.

[@AndreasPrawdzik]

I'm always amazed how many people don't realize that the USA did that too. I did a project in like 6th grade on it. Awful stuff

[@Backroad_Junkie]

Probably because the US did both first, lol. My Mom's family was interred at a camp in Arkansas. My Dad served in WWII, but wasn't in a combat role. (One of my Uncles was in the 442nd and killed in Italy. I think it was Italy.) The US Transcontinental Railroad was built 12 year before the Canadian one. Canada probably used the US Railroad as it's model. The Eastern half (from the Missouri River to Utah) was mostly built by ex-Civil War vets. The Western side (from Sacramento to Utah) used a tremendous number of Chinese work gangs...

[@Emanresuadeen]

And the interments were more extensive than the far more infamous ones in the United States.

[@tsarbutterfly663]

I remember in 7th grade I took a French intro class, and our teacher showed us Téléfrançais. We thought it was the funniest thing to come out of French culture, and I wasn't aware that it was French Canadian! Upon listening to it again, the accent seems to give that away.

[@xcarex]

Ce n'est pas possible! Les ananas ne parlent pas!

[@nicolevanderpool1252]

This was my entire freshman French class, complete with bad acting 🤣

[@JollyRancherGeno]

Thank you for acknowledging the existence of the "home children". My great grandfather was one, and I see it as an important part of my heritage. Very few (if any) people I've talked to know about them

[@ChessedGamon]

"People have no excuse to not take a clear photo of something" This has very strangely looped back around to people using their hi res cameras to take blurry pictures of their computer screens

[@freakishuproar1168]

That whole filming a screen showing some alleged evidence of the paranormal trend annoys the piss out of me. I must confess I'm the sort of binge those "Most Scary Ghosts Caught On Camera" (you do see creepy stuff sometimes, I actually like ghosts despite not believing in them) and I've realized over the years - I actually don't mind fake videos, if they done well, and do something surprising and unsettling. Aside from filming another screen on one's shitty camera phone, I'm also sick of seeing bugs on camera lens being mistaken for mysterious blobs or mists, ghosts that peep around corners and doorframes, moving objects on security cameras that _oh so_ conveniently move stuff within the confines of said security cameras frame, people projecting a shadow because they are stood in the way of a light source, and far too many reoccurring tropes than I detail here.

[@mapofthesoultagme7143]

I believe in paranormal and supernatural creatures and events. Still, there could be many reasons one doesn't have a clear picture. For example, maybe at that moment I didn't have any professional camera ready to take a picture.

[@JJMcCullough]

@@mapofthesoultagme7143 again, I just think that was a much more persuasive argument 30 years ago than it is today when everyone has a Hi-Rez camera in their pocket

[@JAGzilla-ur3lh]

Paranormal phenomena mess with electronics, that's a well known idea. Having the phone available doesn't guarantee a good photo. The behavior of witnesses during the events isn't always logical, either. Reports of disproportionate fear or baffling decisions the witnesses themselves can't account for are common. Of course, we have to assume honesty in these reports. "The truth is out there... but so are lies." -Agent Scully

[@16BitSiren]

lol every game "leak" looks like that. It's always some blurry photo of a screen

[@kitcutting]

I find it cool that JJ here is establishing his own unique facet of Canadian phenomena, as an American I think Canada could stand to benefit from becoming a hub of pop culture. We need more Canadian “stuff” south of the world’s longest land border, the kind of stuff that goes beyond just poutine, maple syrup, and hockey rivalries.

[@Kingofspaids]

I know this is kind of a late comment, but there are quite a lot of great Canadian films and shows you could watch

[@LordBitememan]

I remember the cinematic adaptation of "And the Band Played On." They did tone down the recrimination of Dugas and portrayed the epidemic in a bit more of a comprehensive look. I think anyone with a remotely critical approach of it should be able to piece together that the guy would have had little to know reason to know he was a carrier since even the medical professionals at the time were trying to piece together exactly what AIDS was and how it was spread.

[@LordBitememan]

Come to think of it if there's anyone that the cinematic adaptation really pillories it's Dr. Gallow.

[@mikelitorise6148]

In psychology, they use something called the "anger iceberg". I forgot the semantics purposely but it basically puts up what really makes you angry versus what is just a miniscule reason.

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

Why did you forget "purposely"? I don't understand.

[@waygookcatholic]

The late Mitch Hedberg had a joke about Big Foot. It went something like this : "Big Foot is blurry. It's not the cameraman's fault. Big Foot is blurry. If anything that is more scary. That means there is a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside" Maybe Ogopogo falls into the same category haha

[@daisyprayers]

I'm Canadian and I feel like I've learned more about this country in the first 8 minutes of this video than I ever did in my History lessons. (And that's not even mentioning all I've learned from your other videos!)

[@KreigWes]

My grandparents met at a residential school here in Alberta, and a lot of my older relatives where affected by the 60’s scoop as well. Hearing their stories and how a country I grew up loving once treated my family has really given me a whole new perspective on how I thought Canada was so perfect as a kid.

[@Shinigami13133]

I can relate to the discovery bit, learning about how residential schools have existed until relatively recently among other injustices against first nations people in Canada has really soured my whole opinion on the country, which sucks because I live here.

[@smith22041]

@@Shinigami13133 If someone doesn't have at least some soured opinions on their country cause of its history, they don't know enough of its history.

[@Ska_fan_1996]

I appreciate how the tone of the video gets much more somber at the end and there are less songs and sound effects

[@kyonkochan]

One of the weirdest parts of Canada for me both geographically and historically is the "Highway of Tears" where one of the darkest parts of our history unfolded. A lot of the cases are unsolved and the brutality and range of mutilation is astonishing, especially when you see how much officials kind of shrugged it off because the people it was happening to didn't matter to them.

[@yannick245]

I've read about in a classic paper magazine, before hopping on a train, because my phone had no data left. The location makes this highway just prone to such crimes. Here in Europe. Such a pattern might sometimes not even recognized, because in 800km you can cross many international borders. Cases of serial killer truck drivers are even a _"common"_ thing here too. It's just the perfect habitat for predators. And most of the drivers caught weren't really the smartest ones. It was just to effortless. I can imagine a more _"sophisticated/intelligent"_ serial killer taking a job as a driver, solely because the seen an opportunity go after his _"urge"._

[@camfuinrules]

@@yannick245 alot of people think that robert pickton got them on the hiway of tears. but they know he got alot of prostitues in vancouver. that guy should definatley imo have been on the bottom of that ice berg

[@-Cheif]

Just over half of the murder victims are indigenous. And 40 murders in 50 years is really not a lot.

[@camfuinrules]

@R Northco I didn't even know about this

[@golddustwoman4993]

The people it was happening to were being killed by their own people, who have their own law enforcement which doesn't cooperate with the Canadian authorities.

[@MinecrafterSpence]

As someone who grew up in the same area as you, the story of Abby Drover's kidnapping in the 70s by Donald Alexander Hay is very shocking and interesting. He kidnapped her and kept her in a hidden bunker beneath his garage for 6 months. He was an active member of the community and even assisted in police searches for Abby. I only learned about this case a few years ago while watching some horror stories on youtube, and it chilled me to the bone knowing how many times I had walked right by the house where it happened without even knowing. (Assuming it was never torn down and rebuilt).

[@someguysask524]

The YTV shirt hits home. I remember coming home in the 90s to watch Pokemon after school. I also always found Uh-Oh a bit disturbing with the Punisher, but I always watched it to see if my hometown was featured.

[@GenerationZ313]

I miss the days when YTV was the channel that I would go to watch a majority of the best shows on TV in the 2000s and early 2010s on Canadian television.

[@TrickiVicBB71]

I loved watching Uh-Oh. Always wished they would come to my small BC town when I was a kid. (I was pretty stupid to think that)

[@someguysask524]

@@TrickiVicBB71 Same here, I lived in a smaller city (probably a town in BC) in Saskatchewan. No way they were coming there, but I always hoped.

[@goofcast7013]

My friend and I would always cheer for the blue team without fail because we liked the color blue. We would watch the first half of the episode before school, and they’d play the same episode right after school so we would see the end of it then. Lots of suspense!

[@meghanrennie9967]

I felt proud of myself for knowing about a lot of these already. Shout out to the Dark Poutine podcast for informing me about lots of Canadian true crime and dark history!

[@verrico7536]

JJ, make a video on the Canadian oligarchs? Who are they, how’d they get there, and what their connections are? Just a suggestion :)

[@callumloader8713]

Yeah!

[@OvidéBoily]

Are you trying to get him killed?

[@Murad_el-Kaffas]

@@OvidéBoily This isn't russia lol

[@TheJoeToe]

@@Murad_el-Kaffas still can get him killed. Maybe Canada is just better at covering up the murders 🤔

[@Carlito84Qc]

@@Murad_el-Kaffas it sure ain't Russia but you'd be surprised

[@swishfish8858]

My mom was almost a victim of Clifford Olsen, a child serial killer in the 1970s who buried his victims in the forest near his parents' home in Richmond, British Colombia. She told me that, while her family lived there, they and the Olsens were neighbours, and one day my mom - who was 3 or 4 at the time - had come home to an empty house with nobody around but Cliff one day. They played together on the swings that afternoon and my mom thought nothing of it, until almost 40 years later when she learned who Clifford Olsen actually was. Her theory was that she was "just barely too young for him". Scary to think that she was THIS CLOSE to being a victim of such a prolific monster.

[@JJMcCullough]

Woah

[@Electrohead92]

I think this one might be straddling the line between Canadian and American, but a good addition would be “Skinny Puppy Musical Torture”. Long story short; the Canadian industrial band Skinny Puppy found out that the US government has been using their music to torture inmates of Guantanamo Bay by locking them in rooms and playing their music at deafeningly high volumes. It actually ended up being the inspiration behind their most recent album, Weapon.

[@404bidden]

the knee up while sitting pose is such a weirdly comfortable position

[@GoldenVulpes]

My grandmother went to a residential school. When she grew up and had her own children they threatened to take them away during the 60s scoop , one of them being my mom. My mom later grew up and became a nurse and provided end of life care to one of the social workers that almost took her away...

[@gabrielseaborn257]

Whoa. Talk about coming full circle

[@brianlittleforest631]

Yeah those PSAs were at worst, a scarring, terrifying, sublime experience and at best, a cruel tease. Many a Canadian child was disappointed to hear that there is just no such thing as a house-hippo. Me among them.

[@Lilithksheh7723]

Hairless guinea pigs would be a good stand-in.

[@operleutnant7235]

You should be relieved. Those little buggers would try and bite your finger off if they could

[@88porpoise]

Don't you put it in youth, don't you put it in your mouth. Don't you stuff it in your face, don't you stuff it in your face. Though it might look good to eat, though it might look good to eat. And it might look good to taste, and it might look good to taste! You could get sick, ICK! Real quick! ICK! Real sick, real... ICK! Thirty years later, that one is crystal clear alongside the House Hippo.

[@dominicpaszkiewicz6954]

Make a part two please. This is an entertaining depiction of Canadiana of which a lot of ppl wouldnt know exists

[@perforongo9078]

I think maybe explaining more light-hearted or unusual things might have been a good idea. Like, I was surprised to hear how there was a high-value Maple Syrup heist, and the fact that Canada has a strategic reserve of the stuff.

[@glenmoody-elias1040]

"I can tell you more things about Canadian Serial Killers, but who wants to know about that?" Isn't there an entire TV genre based around that exact thing? Various cold cases, and the documentaries of them?

[@timcombs2730]

Yeah no mention of Paul Bernardo and Karla Holmolka

[@jimbond7992]

Captivating video. Please do an extended part two.

[@JJMcCullough]

I did!

[@GarrettFruge]

This was really fascinating! The dark stuff was the most intriguing to me, because it shows that all (or at least most) countries have some degree of historical sins and even societies who are today reckoned as quite peaceful and tolerant have skeletons in their closets. And, yeah, I first heard of Paul Hellyer when he'd appear on Ancient Aliens and - unless it was all just a publicity stunt - he was...a special one to be sure. Tommy Douglass is also an interesting and somewhat compromised character. In some ways he kind of reminds me of Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, a much beloved and influential left-wing personality but one who also had a dark side and was very much a man of his time, carrying on certain prejudices and problematic idiosyncrasies. Awesome video, J.J.!

[@Shred130]

its important to note Douglas later rejected his thesis calling it cruel and when in power rejected his advisors who wanted to implement pieces of it

[@king0n140]

Please do one on America or Russia, I love your regular videos, your so knowledgeable and present them in such a entertaining way, your style translates so well to iceberg videos.

[@calixthenustv6739]

I was not expecting Ken Penders to appear in a JJ video This was a really interesting video, there's a lot of stuff in this iceberg that I find appaling, nice work JJ!

[@sidneytoole5754]

This might be my favourite video of yours! So so interesting

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

JJ, you can be comforted by the fact that somewhere in rural North Carolina near Raleigh, there will be several awkward conversations trying to explain what Nanaimo Bear is and why it is in our home... Thank you for this 😜 Happy Saturday everyone.

[@babthecookieman]

hey JJ been a fan for a long time, love your content and the way you present it and yourself. You’re a real gem on YT, and this was a great addition to iceberg collection on YT😂

[@Lemanic89]

So, where’s the ”Lac Megantic Disaster” here? Every railway enthusiast point towards it as basically the “Titanic of the Rails” in terms of collateral damage and trauma. More disturbing and eerie is that you can see the transition of that town on Google Street View at this very moment.

[@miab-p6874]

5:27 I remember the House Hippo one! I loved it as a kid and even wanted one, haha.

[@ConvincingPeople]

To be fair to the Freedomites, they considered themselves strict pacifists and thus only attacked empty buildings and infrastructure, the two deaths associated with their actions being of their own saboteurs being killed by their own explosives; it's also worth noting that the periodic arson attacks were generally in response to things like, for example, the assassination of a Doukhobor religious leader and the deportation of his son, or Operation Snatch, in which the Canadian government abducted about two hundred Freedomite children over the years and put them in an actual concentration camp. Which is not so shocking when put into the context of the Canadian government's storied history of child-snatching, but is still worth keeping in mind when one asks *why* these people were so antipathetic to the Canadian state.

[@troodon1096]

It's not really much of a defense, as someone is still harmed by infrastructure being destroyed, even if not directly. But even criminals deserve a reasonable amount of humane treatment.

[@ConvincingPeople]

@@troodon1096 I would say that there is a world of difference between actually killing human beings and making it more difficult for freight trains to get from Point A to Point B in a timely fashion. To suggest that these are somehow equivalent harms is absurd.

[@gabrielseaborn257]

@@ConvincingPeople They're not the same, but it's also fair to point out that most of the arson/terrorist attacks done by the Sons of Freedom were done to _other_ Doukhobors, and they directly helped the slow death of their own culture, ironically. And on the note of Peter Verigins death, they didn't particularly care about him, and in fact fundamentally disagreed with him to the point they're a possible suspect in his death.

[@susanpangelinan2607]

I have never been to Canada (I live an hour north of San Francisco), but I am planning to visit next year. Have been watching past episodes to get an entertaining introduction to Canada. Stumbling onto your channel a few months ago was such a gift! Looking forward to future videos.

[@Thiscooldude123]

How was it?

[@iskandertime747]

Thanks, JJ. The "fruit machine" and the swastika gangs were especially eye opening.

[@goodlookingcorpse]

Re the Home Children: the word 'orphans' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Many of them had parents who were considered unfit. Also it wasn't just about poverty in Britain. It was also about getting British people to populate the Dominions.

[@insertnamehere5809]

They did this in other parts of the British Commonwealth as well, my grandma was sent to Australia from Northern Ireland after WWII as part of this scheme. This also occurred in New Zealand, South Africa & Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe)

[@maatiemm2132]

I really enjoy these iceberg charts. Glad you're doing them too!

[@JJMcCullough]

I love em too!

[@MidwestArtMan]

"I'm going to make a new religion and our symbol will be a Star of David combined with a swasti- er, manji, actually." That looks like something 4chan would come up with.

[@PunkRockPundit]

Great video JJ. I'd say Robert Pickton would definitely deserve a spot on the lower points of this iceberg. The story of how he was able to get away with his crimes for so many years is a very dark part of Canada's history.

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Definitely does. Grew up in Northern BC, always saw him on the news

[@professordogwood8985]

Couldn't agree more, the morbidity of that story isn't just his actions but the indifference of law enforcement. Not to mention of course his method of disposal and the fact that his case had so much content they only convicted him of murdering six people when in all likelihood he killed 49.

[@takeoffeh9576]

Dark morbid fact about picktons pig farm: after he was arrested his pigs were sent to be slaughtered. The meat was still sent to be sold on market, so if you have eaten pork around that time you may have eaten a pig that ate a sex worker...

[@SuperKing604]

@@professordogwood8985 yeah I think the problem was they could either get him on those 6 or he walks. The prosecution didn’t want to take the risk of charging him with all and then not being able to prove all. Im not sure how law works in this cases but I vaguely remember this was the issue 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@QsPhilosophy]

I just drove through the Carcross desert! It's just outside of Whitehorse, YT. Such a cool little place, glad you put Canadian deserts on the list

[@aaronstanley6914]

here are two obscure and dark things to add to a potential second video. On July 30, 1974, at a summer camp for army cadets held at Canadian Forces Base Valcartier, a live grenade exploded during a course on ordnance safety, killing six young cadets(12~16 Y/o) and injuring dozens more. it was covered up for decades the Goler clan of Nova Scotia. If you know you know otherwise forget the name. The only thing that should be remembered and carried forward from this is the need for Child protective services.

[@SnakeitySpoonGilmour]

The one small consolation about the Luka Magnotta case is that for all he sought fame his whole life, he doesn't even have his own Wikipedia page. It's a footnote on the page of his victim, the person who really deserves to be remembered. RIP Jun Lin 🙏

[@GenerationX-WingPodcast]

Great video. It is tough near the end, but informative. I ts a weird dichotomy with the discussion of brutal moments in Cdn history while wearing a YTV shirt. "Are you afraid of the Dark" kept running through my head...with the answer "I am now!" On the plus, I purchased the bear! Love it!

[@alexandercampbell7903]

This is one of the best episodes you ever made. Yay!

[@djvelocity]

*The more time that passes by, the more I enjoy your channel.* It’s always a treat to open KZbin and see your newest video in my Subscriptions feed. *Maybe this is a pointless comment to make but I appreciate the content that you produce J.J. Thank you for making it* 😊🙌📚

[@BenSpitz]

Oh my gosh! We watched Telefrançais in my middle school French class (here in the US). Absolutely wild to hear that "je suis un ananas" is a popular meme in Canada; our whole class also found it hilarious! I remember that "je suis un ananas" was followed by an incredulous "mais les ananas ne parlent pas!". My friends and I would parody that scene by repeating "je suis un ananas // mais les ananas ne parlent pas" back and forth, getting more and more flustered about it as we kept repeating. Thanks for the memories JJ :)

[@Christopher_TG]

This video sparked a morbidly curious question for J.J. or any Canadian here: what is Canada's most famous unsolved murder mystery? Here in the US, we have some famous unsolved murders either because it was a serial killer such as the Zodiac Killer, the Cleveland Torso Killer, and the Axeman of New Orleans, or because it was a famous victim such as the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa or the murder of Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel. What is the Canadian equivalent?

[@JJMcCullough]

Good question

[@lucasroote1563]

I'd say the disappearance of Ambrose Small in Toronto is a good example of an unsolved mystery. Prominent theatre owner just up and vanishes one day? It's even been fictionalized by Canadian author Michael Ondaatje

[@bradleybergen480]

The highway of tears in Northern BC

[@ratmankey]

Yeah I'd love to hear the Canadians weigh in but from my American perspective it's the highway of tears

[@bradleybergen480]

@@ratmankey As a Canadian who's lived along that highway my whole life it's gotta be the creepiest and saddest unsolved string of missing people and murders. It's not just one person stealing indigenous and non indigenous hitch hikers off of that road, they've only really caught one or two of whoever these murderers are.

[@higherquality]

The tone shock around 17:45 left me pretty bewildered. Almost all of the music is gone and almost all the typical sound effects are gone too. Like this sh#t serious fam

[@seamussmurf3866]

In North Dakota, “Prairie Oysters” are a hangover cure consisting of a splash of Worcestershire Sauce and a raw egg in a shot. A “Rocky Mountain Oyster” is Bull testes.

[@benjaminprietop]

interstingly enough, the Scoop ads shocked me the most, that was so cruel

[@tungsten5214]

Old pal JJ has come back such a joy.

[@chancebrown98]

JJ! A lot of us would love a darker video with morbid topics if you’re up for it!

[@KingOfInsanity777]

Loving the YTV shirt, classic Canadian identity right there 👌🏾

[@suzbone]

My mom is from NB and grew up fascinated by the Dionne Quintuplets, and was horrified to later learn how miserably the Dionne girls' lives were, due to ignorance and exploitation. I hoped they might show up in this iceberg, but hey they could def be the subject of their own video. Thanks for all the Canadian info in this one, JJ, I was only aware of a few of the cases you presented.

[@Will0398]

I’m heading to Vancouver this summer for the first time and have been watching your videos to get more info on Canada. I really want to try a Nanaimo bar, and I want the plush one too!

[@luxembros6791]

Both the water and the information got deeper. This man is part of our world’s many geniuses.

[@rocg1633]

I’m a Canadian and knew most of the stuff on this iceberg, but a lot of it I didn’t know. Interesting that this stuff gets hidden behind Canada’s “squeaky clean” image

[@lolxdlolmfaololxdd8879]

“who wants to hear more depressing stories about canadian serial killers?” uh i think a large majority of us would lmao

[@pontificate2090]

I was just shy of 14 when the Luka Magnotta incident began. He lived in the apartment building right next to the one I lived in when this all happened. Looking back, it was insane that this happened on our block!

[@ifeeltiredsleepy]

I was at Concordia when Jun Lin was murdered and I'd seen him one or two times at LGBT events at school, didn't really know him but it was surreal to be proximate to something so insane.

[@HaleyStark.]

"playfully pretend to believe it"? JT and young Castro are IDENTICAL. No son has ever resembled his father so perfectly.

[@georgeiii2998]

Ogopogo sounds like a Harry Potter spell that would conjure up some horrible disease.

[@16BitSiren]

That YTV shirt is iconic. I want one with the old purple T.V. logo 🤣

[@StephanieJeanne]

Wow, JJ, that was a lot of information! I never knew Anne of Green Gables was plagiarism of the Rebecca story, Canada has highest MS rate, and well, pretty much everything else, except the Oak Island money pit. I will say, as I watched this I realized how no matter where one may live, there are strange phenomena, bizarre and downright twisted people. 🤪 Thanks for the deep dive.✌️

[@TrickiVicBB71]

The MS one surprised me

[@StephanieJeanne]

@@TrickiVicBB71 Yes! Me too!

[@misskate3815]

It’s not. It was just a marketable theme at the time.

[@lensy6]

Regarding the Mussolini thing, its an interesting note that a woman called Edvige Carboni was beatified by the Catholic Church and reportedly experienced many visions, including from the deceased. This included both a vision of Mussolini telling her that it was terrible for him because he left it to the last moment to repent, and one later from God saying Mussolini's soul entered heaven. Whatever reason the Mussolini thing was painted on there, it actually seems a good reminder of the nature of God's forgiveness being open to anyone who repents.

[@jds1275]

An interesting video from my favorite Canadian KZbinr. I don't think anyone really thinks about Canada having such a dark side.

[@ulster-scot935]

I love your channel, it's unlike any other

[@alecpetsche1104]

I’m surprised the Halifax Explosion didn’t make the list. It was the largest non nuclear detonation in human history, resulting in nearly 1800 deaths and approximately 9000 non fatal injuries.

[@AMRARDvermebrungruppe]

In 1988 (or '89?) Youpie of the Montreal Expos became the first and to date only mascot to be ejected from a Major League Baseball game. Lighthearted, but also a very funny and somewhat bizarre story.

[@assistanttotheregionalmana5810]

I would love to see an American iceberg. Your analysis would be pretty cool. You’d be sitting there making the iceberg and sifting through all of America for like 20 days tho

[@JJMcCullough]

I don’t think America could be reduced to just one ‘berg

[@assistanttotheregionalmana5810]

@@JJMcCullough one iceberg for each century! Each berg would still be huge

[@retroroy8720]

With America, I'd love to see the icebergs for various states.

[@nojustno.justno]

@@retroroy8720 if your interested here’s an outline for Ohio Level 1 Nothing happens in Ohio Buckeyes Cleveland browns Michigan hatred Rust belt Harambe Swing state Wait it’s all ohio? Level 2 Ohio vs the world Fast changing weather Hastily made Cleveland tourism video Burning river Cincinnati chili OH-IO Toledo war Unique flag shape Level 3 Loveland frog Cleveland torso killer Newark giant basket Zanesvile animal maulings Ancient mound builders Ohio state reformatory Level 4 Ohio Grassman Crybaby bridge Giant corn field Cincinnati abandoned subway Cincinnati music hall South Bay Bessie Melon heads Gore orphanage Helltown Level 5 Jeffery Dahmer Ten cent beer night Witch’s tower Circleville letters Minerva monster Morgan’s raid Hangar 18 Worst defeat of us military by Native Americans Level 6 Headless motorcyclist Swallowed object exhibit Cedar Bog beast Crosswick lizard man Orange eyes OSU tunnels Charles mill lake monster Peninsula python Ohio mothman Dog man of defiance gnadenhutten massacre Level 7 Portage county ufo chase Ohio witch trials Tomato juice Buckeye confederates Buckston inn Ohio ABCs (Alien Big Cats) Kangaroos Level 8 James Ruppert Carmel area creature Bighead Norwalk ape Ohio trolls Akron lizard lady Thomas lee Dillon This is still a work in progress I may add more later

[@AngryBerb]

@@nojustno.justno Probably not put very far down on the iceberg, but the tunnels under OSU could be added on there. They were mentioned in the Internet Iceberg video that JJ talked about in a previous video.

[@robertbarnes9211]

I friggin loved that episode, and thanks for including the MK ULTRA history. Awesome deep dive.

[@seanmurphree4716]

I'd maybe add "Canada was the first New World country visited by Europeans" or something like that to the top layer, just because few people are aware of the Norse settlements on Newfoundland hundreds of years before Chris Colomby made his way over to the Caribbean. Great video!

[@lorrygoth]

Leif Ericson or Eric the Red right?

[@artpoet9915]

Wow! Omg! Literally every single person knows this. It's not a big deal because they did nothing and made no impact on indigenous people or their culture. Why? Because Newfoundland is an island that is decidedly not connected to the main land mass of Canada. Pitiful little deconstructists like you wish to appear smart while actually being a borderline handicapped contrarian. Great video J.J.

[@TokyoBalletReprise]

@@lorrygoth Yes.

[@takeoffeh9576]

There is actually some evidence "Europeans" came to north America well before that...

[@Aaronnoraator]

Nice to see something Newfoundland related on here!

[@daviddenis4178]

Being traumatized by creepy PSA's and The Peanut Butter Solution was right of passage for Canadians growing up in the 80's and 90's. Fun fact: The Peanut Butter Solution features the first recorded songs by a young Celine Dion.

[@ztlabraptor211]

I grew up in revelstoke and was really fascinated with cryptids and monsters as a kid. Went to lake okanagan every summer to try to get a glimpse of the ogopogo

[@whosflair3716]

Living near Lake Okanagan there's always a new sighting on the news every few months, though the Ogopogo has been less talked about in recent years sadly

[@CanadianGamerDad]

This was really interesting. I'm a huge Canadain historian and only knew about 50 percent of these. I need to watch more history on Canada. Great video.

[@TheAnberlin14]

Have you done a video on Canadian television shows like Corner Gas or the red green show? I'd love to hear your thoughts on their place in Canadian culture and the Canadian identity. So much of our media comes from the United States, but I think these shows have played an Important role in the cultural identity of Canadians (at least some Canadians). I remember strongly identifying with the slow boring prairie life of corner gas in particular

[@FrothingFanboy]

A video on Canadian TV in general would be awesome, though perhaps having separate videos for animation, comedy, documentary, variety shows, or specific channels would work better.

[@GenerationZ313]

@@FrothingFanboy I certainly would like a video detailing the fact that early anime dubs were done here in Canada back in the 1990s and well into the 2000s before mostly disappearing in the 2010s.

[@lucinae8512]

26:17 I want to hear more of Canadian serial killers! That would actually be an award-winning video!