Who can Draft a pitching staff with the lowest ERA? (AL West Edition)

[@BenTheBlueGuy]

We've really gotta be nearing the holds draft now, right?

[@blank_echos]

Ahh yes the Tony Watson special

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Ahh yes the Octavio Dotel special

[@Riley.a_Music]

@@blank_echosgiants

[@WalkoffGrandslam]

Followed by a hit by pitch draft lol

[@nickbietz]

Sergio romo let’s gooo!!

[@MCTurner-b4t]

New game idea: reverse Immaculate Grid. The grid is filled with players, most likely the most popular that day. Then the guys have to fill in the teams/categories around the grid.

[@cameron9054]

For someone that plays daily, I’m surprised I never thought of this. Good asl idea

[@nebxlatv]

I fuck with this hard… I’ve done all the grids at least twice so sounds like a cool twist

[@abbywilley3907]

Jolly choosing Sasaki as a Mariners reliever and not 2018 Edwin Diaz is crazyyyyy

[@djbxyz]

2018 Edwin Diaz not being on here is legitimately a federal offense. 73.1 Innings pitched with a 1.96 ERA

[@laserred87]

no one ever remembers he was a mariner. Jolly probably should of though. that season is the reason why the Mets wanted him so bad lol

[@harrisonbaylor1432]

There’s someone better for the NL central. Wonder if they’ll remember him but don’t wanna say it just in case they read the comments lol.

[@wolfpackjew]

I was surprised Jolly didn't go there.

[@floridaman6281]

@@harrisonbaylor1432 BL is absolutely insane, I’m so bummed they didn’t get him in the K draft

[@danielrasmussen2167]

How? It seems as though not picking Neal Cotts is the gross hyperbole.

[@DKirko_]

How did Liam Hendricks get mentioned but not picked?? 2019 Liam Hendricks was crazy

[@anniesymons8474]

so many good mariners left on the board! 2001 freddy garia, 2022 andres muñoz, and paul sewald, 2002 jamie moyer, and a couple others. but i love the fact that they showed love to some olds in this one. idea for the next draft: 2020 draft, all players from all teams in the year 2020 are in play

[@brettadiah10]

If someone would have made the Shigetoshi Hasegawa 2003 pick I would've lost my shit. 1.48 over 73 innings.

[@braulioaguayo5415]

JJ Putz!!!! 1.38 ERA in 07

[@MattEightSix]

Was hoping Jake would just take 2011 CJ Wilson and just win this.

[@panther7712]

ME TOO. as a cards fan had that locked up, wanted him to have it too

[@evkettel1949]

I was longing for Neftali Felix 2010 and Cole Hamels 2016 😭

[@oswqld]

#JUSTICEFORJAKE JAKE WON THIS.

[@bimbamboom630]

“You’re what was wrong” 😂😂😂😂 I was dying so hard haha. “Let’s push those L’s” LMAO

[@cats8herface27]

Genuinely my favorite trivia pairing.

[@jeff_leppard97]

I was screaming 2015 Sonny Gray, 2021 Raisel Iglesias and 2018 Edwin Diaz

[@jimmerthesimmer]

good for the intermission between the double header

[@benhaber8648]

Some nostalgic Oakland A's - Andrew Bailey ROTY 2009 and Justin Duchscherer 2008 both had great years And I imagine Gio had some good early years as well Great draft, really enjoyed watching

[@justinsmith293]

These 3 are the all star cast of these games. Shelf and Jake are fun together haha

[@ahol9120]

Love Jake rocking the pitching ninja shirt!

[@deagan__]

Just came from the Mets stream. Congrats Jolly

[@SchruteFarms]

I think they should try a highest ERA draft. Just pitchers who got absolutely shelled.

[@Carlos-uf8so]

Jake actually said 2011 C.J Wilson

[@Joshsteele53]

Lucas cam makes me happy

[@nadavfeibish9950]

2022 Martin Perez was a 2.89 ERA, with 190+ innings, don't know how he wasn't selected, came to my head immediately

[@jimharper2180]

I badly want to be on this game just so I can scream 2013 Hisashi Iwakuma.

[@nicksturiale5429]

Jolly Dropping this along with the Mets is amazing timing

[@edwardeldeiry8626]

Ideas for drafts - walks, both pitching (could be tryna get the most even tho it’s a bad stat or who threw the least) and/or batters drawing BB; batting strikeouts (again I think a negative stat draft, whoever can whiff the most would be funny); drafts of stats all done but just postseason stats would be AWESOME; and maybe pitching wins/saves

[@JDawg12329]

I hate to be that guy, but as someone with a degree in statistics, I feel qualified to give an opinion on the score calculator. The problem is that ERA and innings pitched do not have a normalized scale. by dividing ERA by innings, you artificially inflate the importance of ERA because the deviation(scale adjusted) is much higher. What I mean by this is that a (non-injured) starting pitcher is going to throw anywhere from 150-230 innings, meaning that the lowest of the low is only about 65% of the highest possible innings. For relievers, the gap is even smaller. On the other hand, It is totally reasonable to get ERAs from anywhere to 1.75-4.50, a much larger gap respectively. You should normalize the scale of the two by taking the average ERA and Innings for each of the three teams. Then, for ERA, since lower is better, take this average and subtract by each individual team's ERA, then divide by Standard deviation of the ERAs. This will create a scale where 0 is the average, and a higher number means a lower ERA. Then, you can do the same thing with innings, but this time, take the individual innings and subtract the overall mean innings, again making a scale where 0 is average and a higher number means more innings. Since both numbers have the same scale, you can add the two together and the higher number is the better number. If you wanted to weight ERA more than innings as this is an ERA draft, you could multiply whatever weighting you wanted to make it more aligned(eg. if you wanted ERA to account for 60% of the score and innings 40%, then you would multiply the ERA portion by 0.6, and innings by 0.4), Just some food for thought

[@JDawg12329]

For context, Using my formula, Jake moves to second place in front of Jolly

[@mse326]

I mean if they really wanted a true ERA they should just track earned runs and IP and then get a team ERA. If they wanted to weight they can just do it to those numbers. Wouldn't need to normalize anything.

[@JDawg12329]

@@mse326 the problem with this is that innings doesn’t matter at all. In theory I could take guys with super low ERAs regardless of innings pitched and then my era would be super low but have like 200 innings.

[@under-waterbasketweaving]

@@JDawg12329 it is techincally just an ERA draft, not best pitchers draft, maybe you put some qualifiers like 150+ innings for starters, but it should just be lowest ERA imo, because its an ERA draft

[@Indicadominant07]

I’m not reading allat but sick

[@rtc3]

No one thinking of 2018 Edwin Diaz is crazy

[@aaronlerner8977]

we love all the boys but....always missing our guy Ryan Cohen

[@BrendanMcKeown-qm9gb]

Crazy how Ohtani is on the thumbnail of the ERA Draft and the Hits Draft

[@GotJahs]

My crazy pull was 2007 JJ Putz. 70IP with 1.38ERA

[@brettadiah10]

Shigetoshi Hasegawa 2003 as well

[@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf]

​@@brettadiah10can't believe nobody got Shiggy with it 😢

[@marcoromo5724]

For some reason I was screaming Cliff Lee in 2010 to Jake. Don’t know if that wins him the game but it would’ve been a great way to win

[@zeeks23]

Sitting here shouting 2013 Hisashi Iwakuma, Jolly chickened out

[@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf]

The masses long for the Rock Bear

[@livingwiththeliving]

Am I the only one who thinks that instead of taking ERA/IP, they should just take Earned Runs / IP x 9 which would allow for a total ERA to be made?

[@noahaxinn7880]

Love the Long Island Ducks shirt Lucas

[@baileysmith4744]

im all for the draft being more ERA based than this, but there needs to be regulation. if you do innings as a variable again but not the main stat, make it an inning minimum (or a plate appearance minimum if its hitters). a minimum of 1100 innings sounds reasonable for this kind of draft, and then if they do get the lowest ERA, being behind on innings shouldnt matter as long as they have enough

[@nicklwells]

I'm surprised Jolly didn't go for 2018 Edwin Diaz lol

[@austingriffith441]

How did Edwin Diaz not make for the relievers?!!!!

[@ryanlindstrom9362]

The fact that 2010 ranger CJ Wilson and 2011 Angels CJ Wilson wasn’t picked is wild

[@adib43029]

Here for this!

[@nickothestove7029]

“Lets be a Mets fan and hit those L’s” was a crazyyyy line from Jake

[@geekimusprime]

7:15 What was wrong?? 🤨

[@hanj31]

I remember 2011 he was head and shoulders above every AL pitchers except Verlander who won MVP. It was Verlander head and shoulders above Weaver who was head and shoulders above the rest of the field.

[@zuesx21]

I loved Jakes pick to try and win!

[@redasdu84]

Lance Lynn for Texas was probably one of the best picks... But I wasn't sure of the year

[@Redsox4444443]

Well, Jake tried to stretch the rules, and the rubber band came back and smacked him in the face. Such is life.

[@Cabaret43]

That line about the Mets by Jake is funnier after the wild win they just had over the Braves in game 1 of the double header

[@reviewbooth8686]

I know it’s a late suggestion, but maybe add some sort of scoring bonus for older seasons? Would prevent some of the recent merchancy

[@jenek9344]

Cole Hamels 2016 was an underappreciated Texas season

[@andyvarness1810]

Just glad Sasaki was mentioned

[@jeff_leppard97]

Need the batting average draft, whoever has the overall highest batting average wins, factor in plate appearances like you do innings in this draft

[@swaggod1]

“if we were doing this properly we do this by era+”😂

[@ThatRedHusky]

A wild stat for 2024 is that Logan Gilbert topped the entirety of the MLB in IP with 208. Injuries are real y'all. Also Bryce Miller this year hit 2.94 and 180 IP.

[@peterskrobola8753]

How about an errors draft? Why positive stats only?

[@mattymass]

ERA draft. Jake wins

[@mattforbes221]

2013 Hisashi Iwakuma is the golden goose

[@bHanson007]

I am severely disappointed nobody mentioned Joe Smith's 1.81 ERA over 74.2 IP in 2014

[@russellchung3119]

2007 John Lackey is pretty damn good, too.

[@barrettbombs2466]

How did you post this during the Mets Braves double header

[@Zo3yX]

It's not live...

[@barrettbombs2466]

@@Zo3yX Ik

[@Simba65315]

Scheduled upload

[@barrettbombs2466]

@@Simba65315 Ik but sometimes they change when they go out if there’s something going on

[@randallwong7196]

Imagining piles of jerseys offscreen in that storeroom.

[@leibmenter2331]

“Lets be a Mets fan and hit those Ls” is diabolical 😂

[@RockyMtnRebecca]

Can we do a little something about the closet background of Lucas's shot?????

[@alexgogola7025]

Give me the Wild Pitches Draft (You want the most obviously)

[@6thwilbury2331]

The Watching GUTS fan in me was hoping Jake would somehow get DQ'd for some rule no one knew about.

[@bug_catcher]

Lucas must've heard me saying 2003 Moulder.

[@coreylyle4239]

Shoutout Long Island ducks I depended league powerhouse🔥🔥🔥

[@killacam2644]

2009 Andrew Bailey.

[@beausutton9347]

Triples draft. Cmon

[@brentb2228]

Im a little disappointed no one had 2011 CJ Wilson in their bag for the rangers

[@DrewB2400]

The title says "Who can Draft a pitching staff with the lowest ERA?" JAKE WINS!

[@aschmidty11]

Felix should be the number one for value because the Tigers probably have more good years than the Mariners do overall

[@philarcuri6338]

Lou Trivino...Shoutout to Upper Bucks Christian School!

[@kyleetasker1701]

Shoutout to Shelfy’s 6 year old airport beer

[@tristanmoody8464]

Jake should win it's not even a debate. it's an era drafts guys

[@digbickb0i809]

As a die hard Angel fan since 2000…I still can’t believe Colon won that Cy in 2005. Wins are so dumb and so were the voters. 😂

[@rupertbettison6348]

Think Jolly Olive will be watching the Mets not this live

[@bryceyoungenthusiast]

It was prolly pre recorddex

[@harrisonalexander6203]

The Rangers picks were painful. All of the best ones were left on the board.

[@justinsmith293]

Do a Base on Balls draft

[@brianontiveros-kersch2412]

How the hell did no one take Liam Hendriks from the A's?

[@oswqld]

Or 2018 Edwin Diaz

[@cflow2013]

jake going full trump hands at the end is peak comedy

[@moiseslara9160]

not one person mentioned C.J Wilson

[@lilsleepy3332]

shouldn't the formula just be total earned runs over innings pitched divided by 9? like the way ERA is actually calculated?

[@briank2502]

Not a math pod. But yes. So simple

[@rorogonzo7867]

Marienrs JJ putz 07 Fernando Rodney 😅

[@alexleonard2819]

Jered Weaver 2011 had the better pitching season than ohtani. 235 innings and a 2.41 era

[@shaymerten173]

No Hamels or Feliz made my rangers heart cry

[@Fredzeppelin15]

Surprised no one took 2018 Edwin Diaz

[@zo851]

shoutout to my man Lucas w the Ducks t shirt

[@graybeardgaming414]

Jake should've won. 😂

[@murphythedog789]

I thought someone would take CJ Wilson for the Rangers.

[@michaelcahill4534]

How did nobody say Edwin Diaz in 2018?

[@peterharris6409]

I’m just waiting for the WOBA draft

[@rorogonzo7867]

2005 rangers Kevin milwood

[@spiffy9065]

2021 casey sadler had a .7 ERA what a miss

[@Country786]

The disrespect for 2011 CJ Wilson is real

[@youngharry6]

We need a new formula!!!

[@CoryBrunnemann]

Ryne Stanek 2022

[@Fernandomarquez04]

it really bugs me that all their picks have to be post 2000. Yu Darvish over Nolan Ryan for the best Rangers season?? come on...

[@dmoneyyy1863]

Nobody said 2018 Edwin Diaz???

[@jmg999]

#LetLucasPlay

[@lucmcdowell1167]

Should have got Jamie Moyer 2003

[@youngharry6]

ERA/ 1/2 IP

[@theevilbeard]

Justice for Jake

[@nwj03a]

I mean it is the ERA draft, not the IP draft. We gonna worry about walks in the K draft?