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00:00 INTRO
00:08 Show begins
01:50 Tip of the cap
03:24 One of the worst calls to end a game ever?
13:16 Juan Soto returns to San Diego
23:03 Craig Counsell back in Milwaukee on Monday
27:55 Factor Question of the Week
32:10 OUTRO

[@natetheyouthpastor]

12:59 job security of a Supreme Court justice got me dying😂

[@keelmaanful]

😂😂😂 Trevor: “they have the job security of a Supreme Court Justice” 😂😂😂

[@doppeldipper7111]

Plouffe is right about interpretation. You don't call interference in "What's the runner supposed to do" situations.

[@Leonardo2003]

Really have been happy with how Plouffe is speaking his true mind in the past few episodes. Love his passion and perspective, not afraid to speak up and not bow down.

[@DG360MaN]

Much needed change, you don't have to go full Steven A Smith, I feel like historically he's been very nonoffensive, non committal on takes

[@Leonardo2003]

@@DG360MaN yeah this discourse is what genuine people actually want. Not everyone having the same, safe and soft cookie cutter opinion.

[@zaneplatt3533]

Funny how people always say this when someone complains rather than when someone is positive... Most well-adjusted people with full, worthwhile lives don't feel the need to rant all the time. Plouffe speaks up when he really wants to and needs too, but he isn't a youtube comments section that whinges all the time

[@ayydubs987]

agree to an extent but he needs to let chris finish his sentence. rose will let trev speak for as long as he wants, but the second chris says something he doesn’t agree with, he interrupts. he’s been doing it a bunch lately.

[@Leonardo2003]

@@zaneplatt3533 you whack dawg. Plouffe finally speaking up for something that’s all I’m saying

[@Caleb-co2hx]

I was at the Os vs white Sox game and another thing with that call is that is was never explained to the fans. Like all the sudden the manager is coming out all the players are coming off the field and that’s the game. There’s got to be someway to explain what’s happening when the umpires call stuff because we all had no idea at the stadium. Also Gunnar seemed to be confused when he caught the ball like he clearly didn’t feel interfered with.

[@TheForeverRanger]

Imagine if this was the deciding call in Game 7 of the WS. If this got called to end of a close game 7 there'd be all kinds of stuff thrown.

[@reichelt666]

I was at that Sox/Orioles game last night. Absolutely stupefying call to end the game. In the stands we had no idea what even happened. One of the most deflating moments I’ve ever experienced at a game. As if my poor White Sox don’t have enough problems without a little bitch of an ump bending us over in the middle of a really fun comeback. Absolutely brutal…

[@phillipcarter5681]

Trevor is spot on. It's impossible to make a rule for every possible scenario in a chaotic game like baseball. So the rules have to be flexible to situational context

[@matthew7491]

Vaughn was drifting back to 2B. Not sure what else he was supposed to do. He would have had to either instantly recognize Henderson was bearing down and lunge back to 2B, or move towards 3B and risk getting doubled up.

[@griffinhays2053]

This is definitely not a "be mad at the rule" situation because that is 1000% not how the rule was ever meant to be applied

[@Clank2237]

The Farmer's Dog better keep sponsoring the show, I love when Chris does his dog voice and seeing Plouffe react every time

[@OksureIguess]

Chris goes complete dawg on us, plouffy says “I can’t believe you 😚” and rosey fr had no idea what he was talking abt

[@andrewreuter7650]

Loving the emotion lately Plouffe keep it up with the undiluted takes!

[@Alejandrohnandez1112]

It’s hilarious how awkward Rose gets every time Plouffe calls his wife hot 😂

[@khaliqbarkers1058]

See I get if Henderson barely made it or maybe it was a ground ball and Andrew booted it on purpose; things like that makes since. It was an infield fly rule so no one moving. Andrew didn’t see Henderson and vice versa because Henderson was tracking the ball,Andrew was just going back to second it wasn’t on purpose

[@loganmars2893]

To trevs point about the bad umpiring bringing conversation; I have a few buddies who are not into baseball. But when Angel Hernandez does something they hear about it and want to talk about it which leads them to watching games for a few weeks.

[@TonyBaseballs23]

Sure but that's a terrible reason not to go to robo umps. Using that logic they should promote umps based on how many mistakes they make, not how many they don't.

[@tBeNz0]

​@@TonyBaseballs23not only that, but with sports betting on the rise, I feel like the MLB will be more pressured into doing whatever it takes to get every call right.

[@TonyBaseballs23]

@@tBeNz0 I'm sure you're right, but I find that to be a lamentable reason.

[@trippdavidson8174]

Really hope we don’t boo Soto, dude was our best player a year ago and he didn’t trade himself

[@Vessikilla]

Joan Hoto

[@alexanderday534]

6:47 agreeing here with you Trevor

[@noellemly]

“the job security of a supreme court justice” 💀💀

[@AlexValadez]

The entire thing about social media and better camera angles being a case of why these bad calls stand out more shouldn't even be an argument anymore. I've heard the same thing every year for what, the past decade? The issue this year hasn't been with plays so close that we need slow motion replay to see if the call on the field was right or not. It's egregious calls like this, strikes that were very clearly out of the zone or yeah just pick any player to be kicked out. It's almost as if the umpires are doing it on purpose to show that nothing can be done to them. If it's something they're doing because they feel like they get no respect, they end up losing respect every day. Or maybe, they're just that bad now.

[@billbircher7670]

Can you do a segment on the Rays and talk about our offense?

[@ebilworld]

This is without a doubt the best question ever asked tbh

[@individual_disk_936]

I'm an Orioles fan, always happy when they win. But when the game was called on that interference call last night I was like "They did not deserve this win." That was bs. It was 2 outs, next guy up. Nobody wants to win in such a stupid way.

[@maxxramas5770]

As and O’s fan I was embarrassed by the end of that game.

[@IdyllicMullet]

As an Orioles fan, that is one of the worst ways to win a game. That doesn't feel good. You can see Gunnar's face and it's pretty clear he felt the same way. Only the umpire crew can make both teams feel like shit

[@joenartowicz199]

Can't wait for the no context KZbin short of Plouffe talking about chaffing and his junk.

[@ryanz4539]

As a Brewers fan who will be at the game Monday, I will not be booing. It's a game for us and a job for them. I don't boo people for a bad game or being on a team I don't like. I really only boo players whose personality or style of play I don't like.

[@markzuckergecko621]

You would think umpires would be really bearing down and making sure to be on their A-game, with all the advancements in tech, and push for more digitization..... But the opposite seems to be happening. And I'm an old school kind of guy, I love the perfect imperfection of baseball. Human error makes it special. But I don't want to see *this* much human error.

[@noodler5583]

They called infield fly. Even if Gunnar would have let that hit the ground it wouldn’t have changed the outcome 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ryanz4539]

I am mystified how that is interference and guys slide through/over second to break up double plays don't get called.

[@jmg999]

The umps made the call according to the rulebook. MLB rules clearly state that intent is not a consideration in that call. Just b/c MLB threw the umps under the bus, it doesn't change the facts. Trevor wants the ump to change the rules to fit the situation, and that is mot at all how that rule is applied. It's not only a bad take, it's factually incorrect.

[@kieancoba7661]

Never wore a cup, fastest way to improve hand speed. And I was a catcher/CF and an idiot.

[@sixfourrecords]

As a Brewers fan who is attending the game on Monday, Craig is gonna get absolutely shredded by myself and the crowd

[@IPANoah]

For what? Sheez- no one is ever supposed to take another opportunity? How about being thankful for the years of service to your franchise as a player and manger. How about being thankful that he could have jumped ship as a manager a lot sooner then he did, but didn't?

[@mikew6644]

3:30 The part I didn’t understand is that the catch didn’t matter? If it was infield fly he could have actively tripped Gunner and it wouldn’t have made a lick of difference… so why make the call?

[@davidsorensen2116]

The catch itself doesn't; getting to the ball does because the ball is live and runners can try to advance. If the runner tripped Gunnar, he would have had the chance to run to 3rd after the ball fell (or was caught by the third baseman who had no one backing him up and was also coming in)

[@mikew6644]

@@davidsorensen2116I mean… ‘sure’… I was being a bit hyperbolic there to try make a point. Are you saying it was a worth-while call to have made?

[@jackhole251]

Plouffe unironically acting like it's crazy that umps get a couple weeks off throughout the season is an unbelievably douchy thing to say lol

[@clachapelle]

You think robots are going to have any "Feel" NO!!!!!!!!!!!

[@michaelgliddenforteski6576]

I do not understand how the runner does not have the right to his own line/space on the base paths

[@ericjreiss]

It’s clear in the rules that the fielder has the right to the path to the ball.

[@calebayton9073]

Being denied postseason assignments is not nearly good enough. Umps cannot be fired or demoted to the minors. Only a handful of jobs open up at the majors open up every year, umpiring will NEVER improve if bad or underperforming umpires can't be replaced by better ones from the minors

[@TheTEN24]

Worst call I’ve ever seen glad Trev completely roasted these garbage ass umpires

[@MikeD_]

The umpires have inserted themselves into the games this year more than any other season. More in the first 1/3rd of the season than for entire seasons in the past. Imagine being an umpire and ending an exciting game as one team was on a comeback all because of a technicality, and one which is never called consistently. What a rip off to the fans who paid to attend the game only to have the umpire make himself more important than any player. Plouffe was right. There are interference calls that can be made all the time by the rules, but they're not because they'd be bad calls. Why did they do it now, destroying what had been an exciting game.

[@travismiller6459]

Sorry Chris, we actually do not have cameras to see everything crystal clear, replay is horrible because we can’t actually see the play as clear as we think… it’s blurry, we don’t have the right camera angle, “call stands” all the time

[@ericjreiss]

Trevor is wrong here. The runner needs to pay attention to where he is in space whenever the ball is in play. Umps made the correct call. Whether or not it’s the 27th out is irrelevant.

[@huron994]

I'm with trev, have some feel. If you want black and white with the rooms, get the computers and AI out here and let them do it. An umpire should be able to judge the situation, not just cite the passage in a book.

[@jdsthird]

Spoiler Alert 🚨 Padres wet the bed the first game and Yu got ROCKED. Yankees win 8-0 Not sure why Trevor keeps fluffing the Padres when they have spent the last 300 plus games below .500. This is nothing new. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@korbinsworld24]

The thing that gets me is that these are supposed to be the best umpires in the world. Nightly, they are blowing calls that change how a game plays out. It's making the game hard to watch after the league made it pallettable again with the pitch clock.

[@ketch0_041]

It's because once they get to the big leagues, they don't have to fear getting demoted back to the minors

[@pvmedeiros3643]

It should be black and white. You don't want a guy deciding if the rulebook counts or not on that particular day.

[@browncoat24601]

Umpires being able to see a play like that and not call the runner out is almost the entire argument for having human umpires. If we're just going to call the rules as written with no feel for the game or situation why wouldn't we just use AI or some robotic umpires? Such a bad call

[@parkeradelson]

I am with Trevor this is horrible. They are basically asking to get fired and have robo umps. Lucky for them baseball has the most feckless commissioner. They are shitting on the sport and making a fool of their positions

[@Nine_Two_Nine]

The rule was applied correctly. Blame the rule and not the ump.

[@willman110]

Have some "context". Bro they make a call in the moment. Right or wrong officials don't have as much time to think like that. It's see a call, make a call. Maybe that one was tricky tacky. But you can not take that back. It's the umpires jobs to call the rules, not bask in the Grandure of the moment.

[@nbgav]

It’s kind of impressive how wrong you are

[@TonyBaseballs23]

Endorsing umpire errors because they generates buzz is the dumbest reason I've heard of to oppose robo umps.

[@theburnetts]

Trevor: "I don't care what the rule says, in life there is feel". Gotcha. So in a tight game, in the last inning when a player gets in to a rundown and then runs out of the basepath clearly to avoid being tagged the umpire should just use "feel" to let that go because fans want to see the game continue. Or the winning runs are on 2nd and 3rd with two outs and the batter clearly strikes out on a checked swing 3rd strike - but the umpire should use "feel" to call it a ball and let the game continue. Right? The rule book is clear. There is also an associated MLB rules case book that helps umpires handle specific cases. I have umpired before. Umpires need a rule book to follow. To anyone that umpires at a high level this was clearly interference. It was obvious. It wasn't hugely egregious but it was obvious. Henderson had to swerve to avoid running in to the runner who wasn't paying any attention to where he was. That is interference. And the umpires are taught to make that call immediately. They don't wait to see what else happens during the play so they can use "feel" to decide if they should call it or not. They are taught to make that call immediately. The umpire has no idea what may or may not happen later in the play. Maybe Henderson camps under the ball and then instead of catching it, it ticks off his glove and rolls in to follow territory. Then the runners could advance. The umpire needs to make the interference call as soon as he sees it. They are taught to point to the offending runner and call out "that's interference!". Then the rest of the play continues. They are not taught to silently watch the play, wait to see how things turn out, take the score in to account, see who is coming up next and then decide whether or not to call interference. That just isn't how it works. MLB has a set of rules. Umpires are there to enforce them. And yes - it is like pulling someone over for 37 mph in a 35 mph zone. But that is how sports work. If a home run is foul by 4" should we just call it a homer because we are using "feel"?

[@ericjreiss]

Well said. Thanks!

[@d0dgecity]

TLDR "I have umpired before".

[@rb2037]

Umps make a CORRECT call and people are upset. Umps make a bad and people are upset. Before blasting the umps , read the rule book. It WAS the CORRECT call.

[@TownianScout]

Letter of the law v. Spirit of the law: interference is meant for when an out is prevented by the interference of the offense. In this case, the batter was already out. Gunnar could’ve let that ball fall and it wouldn’t change the fact that the batter was out. It was the wrong call.

[@rb2037]

​@@TownianScout Stop it , with all the dumb shit about umps the past couple of years do you want them making the right call or not. The rule book doesnt mention any spirit of the rule bs lol.

[@jhow0089]

What if the call wasn't made then the O's manager would have come out and made a stink? Then O's fans are on the ump for missing it.

[@anthonymartinez0865]

​@@rb2037Do you need a tissue baby girl?

[@ketch0_041]

@@rb2037 the rule book doesn't have to state spirit of the law, no law or rule states it. Its just there that's why laws/rules get amended to fit the spirit of the law. However I guess you can't comprehend that. There's also a rule that states a DH can't be in bullpen unless he's acting as a catcher, but you don't see no one stopping Ohtani from warming up in the bullpen.

[@Cubbieskid]

Chris rose needs to find something to talk about other than whining about umpires

[@rumalo]

rules are rules, that's it, rules are not open for "interpretations"

[@ronmexico7256]

This is the MLB where every rule is decided based on umpire interpretation, there’s no consistency 😅

[@tmoddison]

Definitely should keep sprinkling in umpires. Need to figure out how to get someone from the association or a retired umpire, or SOMETHING into the show.

[@amonrodriguez3518]

Brutal travel schedule lol. No they should not be pampered. They are making 6 figures, and not everyone can do it? Chris rose is great but such a moron sometimes

[@Anon-wy7gp]

The umpires are tasked with enforcing the rules as written. If MLB wants this called differently, they should change the rule. Umpire not at fault, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/sILaZp-Bgr5re6cfeature=shared

[@amonrodriguez3518]

Such click bait. Whoever has the idea for the title should be fired. Gotta be better