Why might an attorney prevail when a pro se litigant failed?

[@jawndoekck]

Interesting video Vince. You're absolutely correct. Even people with a decent grasp on the law and have attended some of the best schools on the planet could still blow a good case pro se that an attorney would glide through with ease. There is a mental health paradox though. Many of the pro se litigants that you mention have mental illness also couldn't get representation due to the stigmatization of said mental illness. Perhaps that is why the few that do take the chance with mentally ill folks are truly angels. The engine repair analogy is ironic given I'm taking an engine repair class this fall at an ASE accredited school.

[@JobAttorney]

It is a massive issue, and our industry and the Courts do nothing to help.

[@Dope4life97]

@@JobAttorneyI have an 11 count complaint against my employer, 2nd round of motion to dismiss, opposing council argument is rule 8 (short & plain statement), it’s an 18 page complaint. But how I framed it was statement of facts, statement of claims, & then request of relief under each “count” under statement of claims.

[@disguised2023Safety-eq5oj]

Have a new topic question about spouse of a discriminated litigant. If defense wants non disclosure and non defamation to cover spouse in settlement, does the spouse need to sign the NDA? If defense requires it, should the spouse get an attorney as well? What is the industry standards related to the spouse? Im assuming the spouse was never an employee of defendent in this situation. Spouse therefore is not a party to litigation but has been involved in conversations with the discriminated party and their attorney. Spouse also attended meditation to support the discriminated party. Finally, should the spouse demand or negotiate compensation for her/his signature?

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

Actually its due to no money for a lawyer or no lawyer willing to take the case because there’s not enough money in it for them.

[@stephenprice6792]

It is definitely challenging to navigate the complexities of employment litigation, however, some ProSe’s are left no choice but to fend for themselves. I believe from my experiences here in MD for the past 3 1/2 years representing myself ProSe, that per capita, more Employment Attorneys have mental illnesses then the citizens at large. In order to be able to do the horrible things that many of them do to people that causes mental illness and or exacerbates the condition in otherwise normal people and with a straight face is clear sociopathic behavior. Most of it is in the form of gaslighting and there is no doubt in my mind that money exchanges hands behind closed doors. Vince, you show us more of the unscrupulous side of the game and you’re not “Pro” ProSe, and that’s okay. Advocate Lucinda is all for the ProSe and gives step by step advice on how to navigate through this process. Thanks for the insight.

[@blossominggardener7629]

​@ProSePlaintiff having tenured status illegally taken away does not make him a bad teacher. Lawyers like this one is why this system is in the horrible state it is in. School system's know that employment Lawyers won't take cases against them. They break the law because few people go forward after being denied legal counsel. Lawyers like this one are the problem.

[@mr.chatoasmr3121]

If you are a pro se and you win a lawsuit why not go to law school! Hahaha

[@miijoTito]

And what? Be a youtuber like my hero Vince. NOt every Law Attorney live the happiest life ever potentially not any more happier than victims of discrimination. Mental illness does not Discriminate!

[@mr.chatoasmr3121]

@@miijoTito when you become a lawyer, it is obvious that sometimes the job will require beyond effort to make the client happy. If a lawyer thinks they can’t do it, then don’t become a lawyer.

[@annielin2894]

Congrats I think counsel got married! So happy for you.

[@lifesabeach5405]

I didn't choose to be pro se. Most lawyers are scums.

[@Adehead]

I did not choose to be pro se I called many many lawyers but as you also did you would not have stood up for my situation back in 2021. I wonder if your firm would take a case now 3 years after with many truths coming out.

[@lifesabeach5405]

Yeah, he thinks we choose to be pro se. It's not hard it's just a lot of work

[@dianetigert1310]

It is the tentative of the court to discriminate against you, equal it is your intent to hold everyone accountable. Title 28 U.S.CODE § 607 says in relevant part, "Practice of law prohibited; An officer or employee of the Administrative Office shall not engage directly or indirectly in the practice of law in any court of the United States."

[@blossominggardener7629]

​@dianetigert1310 I believe this pertains to someone holding office ie Congressman/woman, Senator, President.

[@dianetigert1310]

@@blossominggardener7629 be the attorney and look it up, do your do diligence and find out. Title 28 of the United States Code the judiciary......hope that helped

[@lostinawareness7979]

It's not hard being pro se. You just need to have the money, patience, and time to research. The thing is that it's very rare that anyone has all 3 to be highly effective as a lawyer

[@blossominggardener7629]

In a lot of cases attorneys are not honest. The attorney I had in a case that I won agreed to take my case out of federal court and moved it to state court without my knowledge or authorization. Some lawyers are simply corrupt and a litigant is better off handling the case on their own.

[@blossominggardener7629]

No one should hire this guy. To say that someone has a mental illness because they represent themselves demonstrates whats wrong with the legal profession. This attorney's statement should disqualify him.

[@jawndoekck]

@@blossominggardener7629 if you actually knew Vince, then you’d know his firm takes on far more cases on contingency than his peers in employment law litigation where mental health disabilities are the protected class.