Jobava London: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.... The Jobava London is named after the Georgian chess visionary Baadur Jobava, a highly imaginative and creative grandmaster. The Jobava System is based around the opening moves 1 d4 d5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 Bf4. For many years this was considered to be a quiet and unassuming backwater of chess theory. (via Everyman Chess)
This lecture was recorded on October 2, 2023, in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you, Phillipp, for sponsoring this lecture!
11:32 Vladislav Artemiev vs. Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
Blitz Match 2020
25:26 Baadur Jobava vs. Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
World Rapid Championship 2014
36:41 Baadur Jobava vs. Loek van Wely
World Rapid Championship 2014
43:03 Hans Niemann vs. Dmitry Svetushkin
Titled Tuesday 2020
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[@Chunda8]

I was showing this opening to a class of kids ranging in age from 6-11. It took only seconds for this thing to be re-christened the "Jo Mama" London.

[@timothyoreilly6571]

That checks out.

[@smort123]

"Your move hung mate in one, have you tried not hangning mate in one?" 10/10 chess teacher.

[@bronxfy3993]

This is my first time watching this guy and i can already tell i like him. Thank you for that video, mate!

[@christopherpavlicas]

To fully appreciate Ben Finegold, you really need to watch old videos of him giving chess lessons to children. He's hilarious!

[@someguyontheinternet7628]

"the better player will win in the jobava". Fck, no wonder I keep losing in it.

[@paulgoogol2652]

Yea but that's true for most openings when you don't walk into forced drawing lines. Later he said the positions are messy and uncommon. But not uncommon to the guy who plays the same 10 opening moves 100 times a day. Don't fear the guy who studied 1000 openings, fear the guy who doesn't get bored playing the same position a 1000 times. He who won't get bored in the dullest positions.

[@Dauksz.]

​@@paulgoogol2652if you can call them "guys"

[@LOLzum101]

​@@paulgoogol2652 FEAR TYLER1 AND THE COW

[@moosewild4239]

Really instructive. Enjoyed these.

[@tiagohello]

Amazing video! Thank you so much! 💙

[@zainquadri1206]

Waffling starts at 0:00 Lecture starts at 12:10

[@sanidacounsellour5159]

😢thank u

[@Axiomatic75]

😂

[@toxx1220]

savage xD

[@paulpowelljr1092]

There is some brilliant stuff before that timestamp.

[@MrSupernova111]

Brilliant lecture! I've seen many of your lectures but I found this one the most instructive so far. I've been trying to learn the London but I didn't know where to start and this was perfect. Thanks!!

[@Iadonis]

one of the most underrated Chess Channels on KZbin... this channel should have atleast a billion subs honest opinion

[@planezero]

The answer is Fries Liver.

[@baoboumusic]

Very suspicious.

[@morejoy5188]

You want me to fry your liver? I favour garlic and onions when I'm having cannabis and cannabilsm nights. How about you?

[@rkalle66]

@jonnnn7699 Fries sounds like a dutch name maybe lving on one of the Frisian Islands.

[@kalyansapsd1]

@@morejoy5188hmm aristocrat

[@12jswilson]

I learned something! Ben's middle name! Now like everything else I learn from Ben's lectures, I'll forget it in the next hour or 2.

[@ChristianConspirator]

I remember it as Jobava. Instructions unclear

[@csquared4538]

What was it?

[@shahmatsimplex4144]

I was a 1700 and used to play this opening in blitz games against weaker chess club opponents back in the 80s and crushing them. Never used it in tournaments or against stronger players since it wasn't played at higher levels and assumed it could be easily refuted . Plus it was gospel then that a knight in front of c pawn when playing d4 was bad. A buddy of mine rated 1600 did crush a 2100 in a 1990 tournament with the Jobava, since I beat him with it several times at the club,so he was brave enough to try it. We assumed his opponent just overlooked something obvious and had a bad day. 😂😂😂😂

[@timothyoreilly6571]

Was it called Jobava then?

[@shahmatsimplex4144]

@@timothyoreilly6571 We coined it queens pawn italian back then. Don't know if there was an official name, but the opening was played in the old days.

[@rferstahl]

I've been playing this wrong the whole time, kinda trying to make it work like a regular London. Great lecture

[@Blackbelt_97]

Man this really answered my how to deal with c5 question great lecture

[@paulpowelljr1092]

Your simple explanation of the differences between the two Londons is profound and insightful. You have a unique ability to strip away the nonsense and quickly deliver the truth. I see the "Dean of Chess" title in your future.

[@shadowside8433]

"Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy"

[@EnergyCenterTV]

Jobava London crushes all my opponents unlike any opening i have ever used and I'e played over 20,000 games of chess.

[@bluemerlin271]

Great overview Ben!

[@MurrayHerts]

ooo I am very excited to watch this video, love Ben, love playing the Jobava, hopefully I can pick up some new tricks or just better understand the positions.

[@BuskingAndChess]

I’ve played thousands of games in this system over the last few years and I love it. It’s becoming more common so people are starting to figure out how to play against it more but when someone has never seen it it never fails to deliver promising positions for white.

[@MarkAro.]

How many elo u have

[@jacknorton9724]

Being someone fairly new to Jobava, it’s better than just beating the unexpected opponent to me because even against players who know what they’re doing, it’s always interesting positionally and offers dynamic play on both sides. It’s lately that I’ve been realizing from this just how boring playing against the Italian is, for instance.. it’s not dynamic until the very endgame and it’s just memory otherwise. Imo

[@ambition883]

Thanks for the lecture

[@penknight8532]

lol dude literally said you can't do that but you can do it some of the time or most of the time and it can work :)

[@snickle1980]

Thats often when it works best. 😐

[@james-cf4mw]

Particularly excited about this one

[@jefftaylor1186]

The Rapport-Jobava has been my d4 repertoire as white for about 4 months and it’s so overpowered that I only play it if I’m playing to be mean and really crush my opponent. Its a perfect blitz/bullet system

[@UR_Excluded]

Very meaty. Tasty! Thanks Phil for payin’ up.

[@CrispyKorn]

Also called the Yomama London

[@diosn6909]

Thanks for this lecture! I really like when there is also a book recommendation for further search.

[@banzaiburger9589]

Daniel Naroditsky and Bortnyk released a really good Jobava London course recently. Hope it was ok to mention it

[@TheSuperhoden]

A gm making videos more than 15 minutes with 20 variations? I'm in.

[@briankorda3599]

Haha great way to end the video. "Show us the rapport Niemann game...no!" *Video ends*

[@MrPassion4truth]

According to the chess engine, black should not play c5, but instead, he should play bishop e7, which the engine says is already worth a pawn. If you look at the board at that point, white has developed only two pieces, while black has his king side pieces and his queen side bishop developed. Black should castle to safety and then launch a counter attack on the c2 pawn, because unlike black, white has no way to protect himself after already pushing all his king side pawns.

[@kurzackd]

07:54 -- *"So, if Black wants to lose right away, Black can play... [...] ... and then White can just play Nb5, and Black's like 'oh, I missed that and now I lose !!' "* Umm... no, Black does *NOT lose* ... and can just respond with... *e5.* ... *-_-* wtf Ben.. O_o

[@uPenguin]

At 39:47, what about Knight e4 for black? It looks like it either forces a queen trade or you can play Knight takes c3 check, which to me looks reasonable? I guess it probably loses the h pawn in some lines...

[@uPenguin]

I just noticed it also hangs d5 so I guess it's just terrible 😂 nevermind

[@danmertz3734]

Asking. Once read of a chess variable called pocket knights. The rule was one knight removed both sides. Knights could come into play, anytime during during game. When it was your move.

[@rkalle66]

I would be interested in a lecture of black's counterplay against Jobava London. One feature of this opening seems the tempo white has.

[@georgegreen3579]

It would have been interesting to see 1/ the Nb5 line commonly played after ..3g6 and 2/ some instructive black wins.

[@iseriver3982]

I do love how everyonein chess complains about the london system, and yet the jobava london is the most popular opening.

[@alexandrenr]

Rapport

[@EnigmaChess]

jobava vs dutch is so op because after Bf4 you have ideas to play the killer g4

[@f.d.3289]

13:04 "...Always play f3..." when he said that, my world crumbled and my brain imploded and i found myself to be a quivering blob of confusion in the midst of cosmic chaos

[@AR-ln7ip]

Always play f3 when it's the best move.

[@f.d.3289]

​@@AR-ln7ip nah, this is too complex for my peasize brain. i'll go with "always or never play f3"

[@noahz]

The Unbeatable Jobava London

[@thetransferaccount4586]

that was entertaining

[@morejoy5188]

A4 for real. It's the only defensive move left for white. Correct me if I missed something.

[@Nuffsed81]

Okay, I've heard heard of Jobava but who is London?

[@Flickit100]

Lecture starts at 12:10

[@RuckDocBen]

11:30 Tombstone!

[@elJas123]

Does anyone know what other chessable courses is Ben working on?

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

Ben: Have you seen the Farmcraft101 guy here on youtube? He looks exactly like you! Are you twins?

[@Chunda8]

I was not aware that the Ginger GM was considered infamous...whoa, chess drama....He's got some books and videos out, mostly on the Dutch and French. He seems to have a decent rating and a few notable wins.....I've seen a few of his videos and they were helpful. But, I probably wouldn't put him in my top 5 chess guys. Maybe top 10.

[@luisbenites4825]

The infamy is not chess related, but law related

[@PaCo-jd3sl]

​@luisbenites4825 what did he allegedly do?

[@elevenears4785]

Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo London.

[@jasmint6703]

So half the games are of Mamedyarov getting destroyed. Maybe highlight some of his games where he is the destroyer at some point.

[@ribbonsofnight]

I think Mamedyarov must have decided he doesn't like his knight being stuck on a6 like that. 2 games must be instructive.

[@carlosjavierpalacios6793]

real ogs called it the Veresov system

[@paulgoogol2652]

This concept of Nb5 and Bf4 pinning down the knight to a6 and the rook on a8 because it never gets a move good enough to give away the pawn on a7 isn't new at all. I saw it before 2010 in high elo online chess and thought: yea that doesnt look good. So instinctively I almost never allow it to happen.

[@Thatotter223]

gang violence

[@giorgibliadze1151]

Top G!!! Trash talking king!!!😂❤

[@ThunderChickenBucket]

Nice

[@biggsweaty]

I Never want to be rid of you haha

[@allanturmaine5496]

I need to check out this Ginger GM feller.

[@allanturmaine5496]

That's a lotta personal damages!

[@Al-gv5uw]

Ben Jamin’

[@jamesgarris6838]

Fine gold lol

[@IAmSplate]

Must stink to lose in a way which demonstrates theory so well. Like now you’re the guy people are using as an example of how to make people lose games. Too bad!

[@theNfl_Esq]

I run into E5 and the englund about 20% of the time

[@BentCarlChristensen]

Wasn't Hans using an engine in that specific game?

[@planezero]

​@@BuskingAndChess Alex Banzea is working on a Jobava London course for Chessable, hopefully better in that regard.. Says he actually hired Jobava himself to assist .. cant wait for that one to come out..

[@kmarasin]

why is Mamedyarov getting beat like a drum by this pissant opening

[@paulgoogol2652]

When black doesnt play the "correct" Jobava line, London players will call the arbiter.

[@adammoduno]

Too much complaining.

[@snickle1980]

Yeah, theres nothing worse than that.

[@LightBender777]

This guy yaps on way too much. Get to the point.

[@fergferguson7370]

You talk to much just get on with the moves

[@brucehighcock4568]

Jo mama London 😅

[@rynono]

I wouldn't listen to this guy. He may be a GM but his opinions on politics make me think he is an ijiot

[@mhsnjani6179]

Hi 👋 This is awesome 👌 👏 I have a question about this system What do you recommend for...c4 as black response in general: I mean what should we do against this position: 1.d4 d4 2.Bf4 c5 3.Nc3 c4 (if black played against Hans Neiman) Or 1.d4 d4 2.Nc3 c5 3.Bf4 c4 (Standard move order of jobava system) Thanks 😊

[@lawrencebutler7016]

i do look optically

[@tombrown3737]

Great lecture but you can't talk about the Jobava for over 50 minutes and not mention Danya or Bortnyk in some way shape or form..

[@PaCo-jd3sl]

Who?