Jobs of the Future: Where Hardware Meets Software

[@andreadiaz7562]

I completely agree. I spent over 7 years at SAP and AWS, and left AWS to develop end-to-end hardware and software solutions. Many companies face significant challenges with the hardware aspect, which is becoming an increasingly critical need. I founded a startup (Cosito sensors) to help companies implement sensor applications in minutes, not years.

[@Dawsatek22]

my compliments. very few people have the forsight to work more with the hardware and less to make it a possible business.

[@XShollaj]

Congrats and good luck

[@projectsspecial9224]

You're right! - I'm a hardware engineer and embedded systems developer for years!

[@adrianwolff2007]

I am also a Dev at SAP.

[@avisverige]

I work in marketing for such companies. Sensors are really cool and hugely needed everywhere.

[@DmitryEsaulov]

Translation: companies want a wizard who can replace several employees. Who would have guessed

[@JS-jh4cy]

Yes companies want to hire people now that can do 2 to 5 previous positions for only a few thousands dollars more than the lowest paid previous 5 positions

[@ChrisAthanas]

They think the factories will have employees instead of robots This is all foolish and will end badly

[@Steve56179]

I'm an electrical engineer as described in this video, and let me just say that to get to the level of "full stack" competency is A LOTTT of work and learning and hands-on experience to grasp. Like she says about HVAC technicians, the future will be them training as Robot technicians, but there are a lot more elements in these systems than an HVAC system. This is no small feat, but I do hope some smart and motivated people out there do decide to gain knowledge in these area. We could start by bolstering grade school education in this country and have math, writing, and science classes that aren't a joke, it should've got rolling years ago but needs to happen now if we want to meet the demand of the future.

[@steveedwards4635]

You sound jealous and envious.

[@aiyamenkhueljerry260]

Engineering has always been 70% Hardware and 30% software. Software runs on hardware, However over the years software has made. significant progress, hence the need for hardware to catch up, which translates to the increasing demand for hardware Engineers. A full stack Engineer has an Edge because they have vast knowledge of both parts, which makes them more relevant.

[@jaehongpark7280]

SW + HW Full Stack Engineer? Is this an idea to squeeze engineers dry while expecting them to do everything? Tasks that need specialization should be divided appropriately. Do you expect a full-stack baker who grows their own wheat while simultaneously baking baguettes?

[@COMPTROL]

Well Said. Engineers are just the slaves of our century, which people from other sectors chant and applaud while doing their mundane, stable, unchanging jobs while paying engineers peanuts.

[@krishna81m]

Only to automate more 😅

[@sitrakaforler8696]

yeah xD

[@vizierai]

while engineer is doing everything, ceo will be buying bitcoin

[@MarkBetterDev]

At entry level I’d expect every engineer to dabble into multiple fields before they specialise as they progress into the field they want wether that’s a specific field in software or hardware. That’s how it is, that’s how degrees prepare their graduates. Personally I expected universities to split disciplines. Instead of having just computer science and electrical engineering, have mobile dev, system integrations and for the other one control &/ automation engineer

[@payamism]

LOL, I did electrical engineering back in the 2000s, and worked for a few years. Eventually, switched to software for more rewarding jobs. Now, they want the hardware back! America is always about the next quarter thinking rather than decades and long-term thinking.

[@chrisalmighty]

Same here

[@feeling4929]

Good insight.

[@MrBuzztone]

In my experience pretty well everything comes back in time. I studied Engineering back in the 1970s & was sure then that the short back & sides haircuts of my father's youth were never going to be fashionable again.

[@Gunzy83]

Same as well.

[@kumarbiswasamparkkhatai8512]

Same here in india. I didn't even found more jobs related to electronics in mid 2014's . I think right now there might be some openings in electronics .

[@ahrenadams]

I think apprenticeships are another valuable avenue. We need to give as many young minds the tools to go out and change the world for the better

[@sitrakaforler8696]

Timestamps (Powered by SitrakAI) 00:04 - Job opportunities are expanding in hardware-focused roles, reducing the necessity for degrees. 01:36 - Demand surges for skills blending software and hardware engineering. 03:02 - New engineers bridging hardware and software are essential for future job markets. 04:28 - Robotic teleoperation creates new job opportunities without requiring a four-year degree. 05:46 - Heavy industries face labor shortages as automation rises and experienced workers retire. 07:12 - Demand is rising for full stack hardware engineers across various industries. 08:43 - The market drives innovation for hardware-software integration careers. 10:24 - Building a US-centric supply chain for robotics and manufacturing is crucial.

[@w6by]

It can take years to acquire all of these skills, and you gain experience through many successes and failures. Unfortunately people who have this kind of experience tend to be older, and when you walk in the door with a few grey hairs you immediately get rejected. Most companies want good good cheap cheap.

[@TechCrack01]

@@w6by They don't get rejected, I'll say they're hard to find and are very expensive

[@stove.d]

​@@TechCrack01 exactly. People don't want to pay the premium for an experienced engineer

[@markonikolic7957]

Yes but that’s the point. A younger engineer in his 20s or 30s who has these skills might be worth gold in the very near future.

[@j.c.s5630]

CVS has hair color dye

[@w6by]

@@j.c.s5630 Yeah, good idea. Haven't thought of that. ;-)

[@robrita]

That's me!! a full-stack engineer! I started my career designing integrated circuits and pcbs for 5 years.. then moved to high paying software engineering role and doing ai engineering and enterprise architecture design 😅😅😅

[@alvaropineda5168]

That's amazing ! I just graduated from electronics engineering and I do not see much job offers, and less in my country, I do find software/embedded and AI more intriguing, is it totally worth the change?

[@t3lesph0re]

@@alvaropineda5168 I would go for, its the future. Learn low level coding and get a board to play with (preferably AI).

[@sanjayshah7776]

My son is graduating from Electrical and Electronic degree this year. With the knowledge and experience you have , can you advise or suggest what he should in terms of career please ? He is not sure.

[@wash_out]

Same. It’s fun to understand the full stack. Or at least at the zoom level necessary for each element to pass qa.

[@pegion89]

Used to be a robotic simulation engineer years back. Yes work was interesting etc. But I moved to data analytics after looking at how these companies never paid employees well unless you move to management roles.

[@mr.guzwee7695]

Sad

[@danielgrayling5032]

I've spent my career moving electrons and photons around. I've never moved any atoms, I want to move atoms.

[@jupitamoon7029]

Destroy it. 😂

[@kumarbiswasamparkkhatai8512]

Chicka chicka boom boom 💥 🤪

[@millertime6]

I appreciate the guidance but I’m skeptical about anything that is supposedly going to be in demand. It seems like the only thing someone can get hired to do is what they did in their most recent position.

[@user-wh9jm1sv6w]

Oh weird, that's called Embedded Systems Engineering, not full stack engineering. And thankfully I am already over 10 years in this niche.

[@TechCrack01]

By full stack engineering, she meant: (Software + Hardware) engineering

[@user-wh9jm1sv6w]

@TechCrack01 I think that's called Embedded Systems in the technical world.

[@TechCrack01]

Not exactly! Embedded software engineering is a little bit different in a sense where it doesn't cover that much of hardware engineering, it's still in the realm of software engineering: just some low-level, firmware programming using the hardware interface.

[@user-wh9jm1sv6w]

​@@TechCrack01bro, it's called Embedded Systems Engineer, not only Embedded Software Engineer. These are 2 different things. Embedded Systems involves Software + Hardware. I heard first time it's called full stack engineer. Full stack usually means from pure software side of view where developer can code multitude of languages or frameworks, I never heard any company or anyone says it's full stack where hardware involves. Its called pure Embedded Systems and lots of embedded engineers like me are so much experts in hardware + software + firmware + app development + cloud + linux. So it's quite common in the industry to call such an Engineer, Embedded Systems Engineer. Hope you understand. Thanks.

[@gtpumps]

Yes Embedded Control Engineering is hardware and software.

[@SamirMishra6174]

So they want a cheap young engineer who has 100 yeras experience. Basically reduce cost. Hardware is os such a vague term. What do you mean exactly?

[@patelreddy4689]

This is close to heart. I have let go of a career switch into a high-paying software jobs, instead still keeping one feet on hardware and other on firmware/software!

[@benzemamumba]

*one foot.

[@0xBerto]

I’m a software dev just learned embedded and worked for the only company designing, manufacturing and assembling here in the USA. 3DR drone autopilots. So…. I love this chat but point me to these jobs please haha

[@davidbriggs8109]

I have the urge to start up a niche hardware manufacturing company in my country, but I don’t know what kind of skills to look for if I need to hire people

[@chibuezendiokwelu63]

please can you share a learning path

[@krox477]

Did you learn c & c++

[@davidbriggs8109]

@ yes I did

[@LastMomentMan]

I did not get what created this demand: is it the policy, or the market?

[@corpuzone]

It’s reality since the hardware component is still vital not just the software engineering part. I already possess years of IT support experience and currently studying software development for a hopeful career pivot. Knowing the ins and outs of computer hardware/software gives one the advantage whenever IT issues arise to save time.

[@doughayden]

Erin is 100 percent bang on. SAIT in Calgary has one of the most advanced Materials and Robotics labs in North America, and has openings for students in its Advanced Manufacturing & Construction Program.

[@eriklondon2946]

Sad it's in a fascist leftist country. #FreeCanada!! I would be more than happy to accept 90% of Canada as our 51st state. That last 10% is terrifyingly hostile towards free thought.

[@ravishekharsingh4141]

Believe or not. Hardware industries is not good paying well and not many jobs. These podcast more about how to secure future young employees for cooperate. All hardware industries are performing not well and investors are not intrested becoz it is hard and value of return minimal

[@rameshnamburi4384]

You manufacture any physical product, requires bunch of robots to do it. These robots have to be made with a combination of hardware, software etc. After NVIDIA rose to top the list of Trillion dollar companies, everyone wants to design ICs to speed up AI performance. As AI tech processes advance, everyone wants to have a super computer on their desktop. Every industrial robot has to be serviced from time to time. Every physical system is a combination

[@rameshnamburi4384]

of hardware, software and AI.

[@prashanthb6521]

Software salaries are inflated. When they come back to normal, a simple material science engg will also be getting equal salary as a software engg.

[@thatrandomproject6652]

ever heard about chips?

[@juanpedrosantiago]

Hardware once installed, it is expected to work for at least 5 years. But within that period, it undergoes about 15 software iterations (major and minor), hence software engineers becomes in demand. And that will still happen because of the way things are.🎉

[@thatrandomproject6652]

Now AI could handle most of the updates and companies could use very little human resources

[@ricardocaballero6357]

i am a mechanical engineer i know programmming and I have not thought ow switching to sw but to find a way in the middle and thats why i m switching over to mechatronics instead

[@flaskwater44]

There are enough engineers to go around. It's more about incentive. SW pays more. Until you pay more for HW engineering you won't see the talent pool increase.

[@ravichandel8690]

i am interested in blue coular job but how to find it

[@electrowizard2658]

whts ur skills?

[@nigelhungerford-symes5059]

Sounds like we need me Mechatronics Engineers.

[@RR-et6zp]

ok

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

so --- robotics! LOL

[@prashanthb6521]

yay I am one already, though unofficially :)

[@jupitamoon7029]

We need ... we need ...They need nobody.

[@mrsheabutter]

😂😂😂

[@theboringtube]

Im an engineer, with hardware technical experience right now im working in Software to have experience.

[@JoynerLuke]

Any hope for computer engineers???

[@markteague8889]

The difference between hardware and software (from the theoretical perspective of a programmer / developer) is a logical one.

[@chrislanejones]

This would be a great time to start a company that builds training solutions to cross-train web developers.

[@GregBman]

You didn’t mention computer science grads. Speaking from experience running r&d orgs for over a decade, these graduates bridge the gap of hardware and software better than even EE or ME grads.

[@ironspider9280]

7:47 The B in PCB stands for "board" so when you say PCB Board, that is redundant 😅

[@Zhichaodeng2023]

Yes it will come back to USA, manufacturing has in a large extent bring back to this country otherwise the foundation of USA will be shaken , we can not only depended on virtual enocomy, but how to overcome the major obstacle of cost, one of new technology is robots application penetrating into industry agriculture service , a lot of aspects

[@oldandwesternreviews2823]

It's always been the inventor skills

[@tshepisosoetsane4857]

Amazing talk enjoyed listening to this from South Africa

[@FictionHubZA]

Nami futhi 👍

[@NBAhoops-s9c]

Are you in a Engineering major? I am in South Africa 🇿🇦 as well

[@noodle3768]

Elon musk endorse this msg😂

[@joeyp1927]

I know we're not talking about degrees here per se, but the Industrial Engineering and Operations Research degree at Berkeley ties together a lot of knowledge and skills that one might need to succeed in a tech-driven, 'building' economy. It's worth taking a look, just to get a sense of the depth and breadth of knowledge needed to make complex things efficiently.

[@COMPTROL]

All they do is optimization algorithms( discrete and dynamic programming), which CS majors already implement in algorithm classes.

[@UeharaKeitaro上原恵太郎]

Most of the electronics jobs are in China and other parts of Asia. There are very few jobs for hardware engineers in the USA, which has de-industrialized so much and whose operational costs are very expensive, add to that the conditions for production are backward.

[@sunit_sarkar]

I am an 2022 graduate electrical engineer and currently working as a full stack developer with one years of experience, any suggestions for me?

[@kv5539]

2022 EEE graduate working in industrial automation field trying to switch career to software field😂 here..

[@Anthony-ru7sk]

Im 31 and figuring out what the next move is. Good to know I'll need to have 5 years expierence to build something that doesn't even exist yet.

[@johnwilliams1091]

I think this initial theory is wrong. Every new technology goes through this cycle of hardware, external control, to integrated appliances. The real new shift is to integrated appliances with connectivity and smart applications. It’s been going on all along.

[@benzemamumba]

So they are looking for a jack of all trades who they can exploit?

[@rverm1000]

Where do I send a resume?

[@LeKaixen]

Where are these jobs?

[@FractAlkemist]

"full stack" and "multidisciplinary" are not the future. Exactly the opposite is true! The more science and tech evolves, and the more complex it is, people will be LESS able to absorb a lot of different things. Rigid specialization will be needed. A successful company or industry will need to have a diverse population of specialists. And most importantly - it will be needed to be coordinated and managed efficiently. With the "Peter Principle" in full force in this country, that last point will be difficult. Cheers.

[@ajithboralugoda8906]

Nice Ideas and future trends but I am not sure US can definitely be self reliant on all aspects of sourcing so there still needs a co-operation with all countries rather than trying to isolate, the world is decentralized more and more see the rise of Bitcoin against USD! Nonetheless great Ideas on the Full stack H/W engineers Idea but these are probably going to be Automated with 3D Printing (Alloy based) and Advanced Robotics(Optimus from Tesla).Its actually not very clear how the things play out in near future. Amazing fu times ahead!!

[@TheAfricanGarage]

She actually used the term "Full stack engineers"😊😊😊 And here I thought i coined the term.

[@gl897]

This was the best vid I've watched all month. Thank you

[@TheAfricanGarage]

I guess I puck the right career. I've noticed that Software has taken over the attention of mpst investors and they fail to realize that neglecting Hardware development will most definitely come to haunt them soon.😅

[@mach_1_ne]

Past tense for pick isn't puck, mate

[@aaronalvarez6970]

Could you do a podcast talking about SAP.

[@jeffcauhape6880]

I think what some people are missing is that she is calling for hardware / software generalists. People with enough skill to cobble together a prototype to get something to work. Specialist can then refine it. We have a system for producing specialists, but the hardware /software /robotics generalist is the missing piece we need now.

[@JP-qp7pe]

Rubbish no one wants hardware engineers low pay do not listen to this lady

[@kv5539]

True regretting as an hardware engineer

[@codebloke2200]

She keeps saying crossing software and hardware. What she means is IT/OT (Information Technology/Operational Technology). It is confusing because both use software and hardware.

[@WealthyChronicle]

The industry’s about to get a huge makeover, and the gap between software and hardware experts will only get bigger. How long before universities realize this and adjust their programs?

[@antoni2nguyen]

So, we called it the firmware engineering where software meets hardware.

[@t1nk3r_n_r3v3rs]

We're repeating history again I feel. We did this in the 90s with "AI" back then and they released engineers. Now, we're trying to combine which we did in the later 90s. AI is just smaller computers doing things (which we aren't really validating the output, we just trust it). I feel we need to focus on taking things OFF the network, less information, less convenience, and less would be better....back to the 70s and 80s to an extent. Take data OFF the network that shouldn't be there; reduce breaches and data exfil.

[@piztech5168]

technological evolution is just an iteration of trial and errors

[@abayomivictor92]

This will be me !

[@SuperADI2]

I am a full stack hardware and software engineer, i am searching for a team with a really challenging project, i work us a freelance, but i can also be employed by a company if is enough interested in me

[@cyphi1]

these greedy companies need to spend money to hire more people... rather than expecting workers to do 10 jobs.

[@noodle3768]

I am a software engineer with ee degree. I do software to big pay checks. I will retire soon, and will make robots for fun.

[@FatherGapon-gw6yo]

Haven’t seen any demand for software of sny kind. Market appears d

[@jlindsay]

VC's typically hate investing in hardware. The saying goes, you get what you pay for... comes to mind.

[@chris4321das]

Let's get serious - it's going to take more than a few hardware and software course to make it into *and at* these companies.

[@steven8148]

Jack of all trades, master of none-this is the reality for many third-country jobs. This is what is it when a job in a third country moves back to the U.S.

[@kennyo673]

Smart woman. We need the robots to build the factories and we need the factories to build the robots.

[@saitamajay6435]

I wonder what happened to her hand

[@ruhtam8971]

Such engineers should be called cross-ware engineers

[@sin7wu]

Isn't a "full-stack" Engineer just a Systems Integration and Test Engineer?

[@williambranch4283]

Firmware is hard. Harder than LLM webpages!

[@Andrei-Lemeshevski]

Such a great episode

[@joelalain]

as soon as robots are sold and know EVERYTHING about electrical engineering, then those jobs are dead. Optimus is getting very close to that. the rest is whether we want less-than-perfect humans to do it. maybe 5-10 years max for human until ai stops making dumb mistakes and can solve issues by themselves

[@eriklondon2946]

Disagree, I think if anything that idea is +20 years down the line. But I think it will be much cheaper to create and innovate an idea. I've used AI to give help me with some great ideas that were already 80% completed. We as humans still have a lot to add.

[@zinjanthropus322]

Hardly, let Optimus first make an omelette before thinking about designing niche hardware.

[@simonzzzz6189]

Sounds like hackers and that’s incredibly niche of a culture to hire or attract in academia

[@aga5979]

I found it disgusting that corporations wanted certain workers so they manipulate young people to study certain fields to be used by corporations. As soon as they don't need the workers, they just discard them on the curb & forget about them. Look at all the fresh swe graduates still trying to find jobs .

[@piratenu1]

So what's your solution ?

[@k54dhKJFGiht]

Great Podcast! Learned a lot!

[@gabrielefilosofi9228]

In the AI era it is a quite natural shift

[@codeintherough]

Electrical engineers are the best placed

[@kv5539]

Most underrated and low paid😢..regretting as a EE graduate

[@codeintherough]

Which country?​@@kv5539

[@SaurabhOKumar]

🌟What is the future of non-engineers as the population of engineering professionals have increased in proportion to job openings? So, what seems happening is that the technology industries are only preferring engineers even in their non-technical jobs because such individuals have technical know-how that a non-engineering student or professional who wants to involve himself in the technology sector, considering its universality today, cannot grow, perform or excel in his or her career for a better future. Many feel hopeless on how to survive and flourish in business or technology as non-engineers and feel left out today. They find their voices jipped and abused in corporations as non-engineers 🤐📛 Please help. 🙏

[@combinedstudy6427]

Then you should earn some money, learn the technology you select it by doing the course, then just do tech jobs and switch companies for better growth and better projects.

[@keslauche1779]

She is loud and wrong 😂, I don't see this explosion in demand for hardware and software in the data? software jobs are still way more in demand then fullstack hardware and it will always be the case since software is ubiquitous

[@zinjanthropus322]

You're going to find yourself left behind reading charts and waiting for someone to tell you what everyone else can sense.

[@keslauche1779]

@@zinjanthropus322 okay mate, keep sensing. I think people got a little too excited watching 1 company wasting billions on rockets. In the real world knowing "how to play with breadboards" doesn't get you that far

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@keslauche1779 You mean the same one company space program with more launches than the rest of the world combined and just surpassed Lockheed and RTX combined in market cap while still being private? Keep living in 2015 dude, I'm sure it'll work out for you when Devin puts you out of a job. Former software devs are shipping cutting edge software defined hardware across industries while you're still hangup on breadboards.

[@scrumtious1]

The volume of hardware upgrades and improvements is staggering. I think many pure software people who have only been working in or following the traditional tech companies don't yet understand that from manufacturing steel to harvesting crops to brewing beer 🍻 is still incredibly manual, non-optimised and often generating wastes or uncertainty that we all pay for. Modernisation of traditional industry and products via hardware and software combinations is a massive opportunity that few people even talk about because many software people have no concept of true hardware challenges

[@keslauche1779]

@@zinjanthropus322 The breadboard comment came from quoting the video 🤣. Also I was just highlighting that the video is misleading, there is actually no market for these H/S full-stack engineers, there are only a few very niche companies and SpaceX is losing money in a spectacular fashion without any concrete evidence that they will ever be profitable (you should look into it). They are able to try more things than NASA has because they are a private company. The reality is that developing, maintaining and fixing these systems is extremely difficult, the complexity is really high and often requires PhDs or years of specialisation in industry. On the other hand, if you have never developed a commercial software product you will never understand how far Devin and all those LLMs are from being able to replace software engineers. They are a nice demo but after a few prompts, good luck improving or fixing the spaghetti code they generate.

[@krox477]

You want someone with 10 years experience out of college

[@prakashpunj421shukla4]

It is known as embedded engineer

[@Pete_YT]

First 10 seconds when I heard the vocal fry, I immediately stop the video.

[@aceyage]

Nevermind the bullshit she says.

[@abdulqadar9580]

AI Agents are comming soon to lift up the hardware engineers

[@MrMountainHawk]

I think this video would have been even better if she mentioned exactly this. AI will provide HW engineers a new level of agency to integrate SW that they've never had before.

[@dekev7503]

@@MrMountainHawkfacts. As a microelectronics Engineer, I learned python in less than 3 weeks from scratch with the help of copilot and KZbin.

[@anilkumarsharma8901]

Just use quantum computer access login so all the people be easy to predict the future

[@hamidvisiion]

for having both sides I think computer engineering is better, you'll learn software, hardware and math concepts.

[@mariocuric6690]

Kinda empty talk. Since electricity was found, human civilization was never able to produce enough engineers - people that build. Everywhere you go construction and engineering are "most in demand". It will always stay like that. We can always build more.

[@digitaladv3ntures]

For the Europeans out there engineer = software developer and engineer = real engineer how confusing

[@pocaitiva-ca-ne-bate-dumnezeu]

these people don't understand the crazy intelligence needed for someone to understand and be able to work with hardware and software. median IQ is not 100, is more like 80. these roles require someone with IQ higher than 130. someone so inteligent would most likely avoid spending years and years of school just to get the medium wage. good luck with finding these people able to do this work

[@9867144706]

Software eating the World, I Like this 😂😂😂😂 and Hardware Digesting it.

[@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods]

This is ridiculous, so you want super humans that know everything and are good at everything and you want to pay them peanuts. I wonder if the two ladies talking about these superhumans could do 5% of what they are talking about. No wonder you disabled the likes/dislikes.

[@digitaladv3ntures]

Full stack is quite misleading cross domain would be more appropriate

[@doomtomb3]

Ok. Jobs that don’t require a degree in hardware software don’t pay well. I mean you are asking for expertise in multiple domains without going to college? There’s college grads who have to go back to school to even keep up with

[@Anthony-ru7sk]

TLdr: 5 years in expierence in an industry that doesn't actually exist yet

[@devvv4616]

isn't that Computer Engineering?

[@shameermulji]

Exactly. I don't why the presenters overlook this.

[@JoynerLuke]

I thought as much😂

[@Molaleni]

So we’re talking about Tony Stark

[@watamatafoyu]

I like coding software because I can manipulate the bots. Now the bots are figuring out how to manipulate me.

[@polarkerr]

good video

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

so --- robotics. (saved you 12 minutes!)

[@gtpumps]

Please keep the Desktop cowboys away from embedded control at all costs.

[@charlesd4572]

Really?

[@wtd2bwah]

Do you realize this is really talking about the need for systems engineering?

[@markmalonson7531]

Pretty lady.

[@centameta8597]

Agreed 👍

[@justAbeautifulSoul409]

new role unlocked : "Full stack hardware software engineer" full stack dev is not enough guys😬😅 OMG where are the getting all these ideas from ..? Learn accounting and excel that's better it seems