Jocko Podcast 105 w/ Echo Charles: "We Were Soldiers Once... And Young"

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0:00:00 - Opening
0:08:26 - "We Were Soldiers Once... And Young", by Gen. Hal Moore and Joe Galloway.
2:16:16 - Final Thoughts and Take-aways.
2:18:34 - Support: JockoStore stuff, Super Krill Oil and Joint Warfare and Discipline Pre-Mission, Origin Brand Apparel and Jocko Gi, with Jocko White Tea, Onnit Fitness stuff, and Psychological Warfare (on iTunes). Extreme Ownership (book), The Discipline Equals Freedom Field Manual.
2:32:04 - Closing Gratitude.

[@kyley4449]

My grandpa who is still here served in this battle. He destroyed the treeline to allow the lz to be moved. I served my country and im 23. I joined on just owing it too my gpa and hearing his stories from this battle. Ive never seen such a man i revere break down and tell me these stories. The men who fought in this battle were from a different cloth as most of us. He was honored by the South Vietnamese with the medal of honor. His name is Linton wayne Sage and fought savagely in this battle. 3 AK wounds 1 baynonet wound and shrapnel in the knee from stick grenades. He still stands today a proud vet and has fathered 3 generations of soldiers after him to fight for this country. May we forever honor these men and NEVER let thier sacrifice go undone. GARRY FUCKIN OWEN

[@AlejandroMartinez-qe5ft]

My grandpa also served in Vietnam he still here

[@patrickcenkush519]

OORAH!!

[@brianredman6153]

GARY OWEN! 🇺🇸

[@GUNSHIPFLEX]

These podcasts are killing my wallet. I have a list of over 100 books on my wish list because of Jocko.

[@bigb-pb4yj]

Get the book on z library

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

Does anyone cry listening? Brave young men. The wife's and women who stood by the family. Respect to all.

[@joesmith9272]

shut your crying ass up

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

Joe Smith Fight me then 👍👊

[@jacobgreen2528]

Everyone needs a good cry once in awhile. No shame in feeling empathy for men who gave there lives for there brothers.

[@jamc9459]

I cried, my brother, my dad and my uncle were all in Vietnam during the TET Offensive. So yes, I cried. Love, J

[@samvogel2368]

It's heavy when Jocko takes in a sigh. The silence that often follows is necessary and impactful.

[@akindallmagnum]

Jocko reading books out loud coupled with his insight = quintessence of read-alouds-This was intense

[@jjut6182]

I grew up across the street from a man who served in this battle. He was a man’s man.

[@Irishknukldrgr]

Having served with the 82nd, Hearing about the Smage gave me chills.. That was a hard man ,full on godlike status..

[@tosainu1]

I served in the 82nd also and I would’ve payed slot of money to have a talk with that old SGM...

[@duckwalker1]

AATW

[@recon0911]

I was with Garry Owen 1-7 cav OIF 09-10.. move fast strike hard Comanche troop hooah.. Gen Hal moore and SGM plumbley would come visit and award Sabres, Stetsons, and spurs.. amazing unit with amazing tradition..

[@billyboyer]

You ain't Cav, you ain't shit.

[@TheWebMindset]

Brother, Sometimes I forget who I am... a Marine grunt. Then I listen to your podcast and am reminded to get the fuck after it. Time to go lift the heavy things and then roll. Semper Fi

[@MAI1775]

RAH!

[@jackhammer0925]

I forget it all the time and get soft. I hear ya, Semper

[@TomTirabasso]

I'm very happy Jocko is doing this book in two parts no less. I picked this book up when it came out just based on that photo cover shot. The story blew me away and I've read it twice again since the mid 90's. The movie was ok but doesn't compare to the book. Pick it up if you guys haven't done so. God bless those soldiers.

[@tricepsish]

There is a good documentary which shows veterans from the battle returning to the site some years later, together with the NVA General who had led the enemy forces. No one held any grudges, and respect was shown all around. Real men... on both sides

[@Mentalpatiencevapes]

tricepsish awesome. Know the name of it?

[@tricepsish]

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[@OldSchoolParatrooper]

I don't that I'd have that in me to hold no grudge

[@leroyyoder3494]

Nicely done. I always stop and shake a Vietnam Veteran's hand when I see them, they didn't get the respect they deserved. The other day in the grocery store I heard two Marines talking about their experiences in Vietnam. I politely approached them and gave each a long, firm handshake, thanking them. One said to me "You're a Veteran, I can tell" I went on to tell them that I am a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer. We all laughed when they said they liked the Navy, especially the Corpsmen! Hooyah!

[@sychophantt]

What did Vietnam have anything to do with American citizens?

[@utrinqueparatus4042]

+sychophantt Well, 58,000 + or so of them died there, if that's what you're asking? More importantly what does your question have to do with Yoder's good deed?

[@utrinqueparatus4042]

+sychophantt More importantly what does your comment have to do with Yoder's good deed?

[@utrinqueparatus4042]

Hal Moore was a legendary commander who understood every single aspect of leadership including the respect and humility involved in getting down in the thick of it with your men, just like Caesar and his men.

[@cusefan5510]

Chesty puller belongs in that category as well. Just the most fantastic leaders

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

Good evening and merry Christmas from Ireland. God speed.

[@jeffkressner5675]

That was incredibly humbling to listen to. The bravery and sacrifice of those men is beyond compare.

[@duster166]

Just finished rewatching the roger hayden podcasts 👍 perfect timing

[@JudgeCraven]

The movie based on this book with Mel Gibson was incredible

[@seanberthiaume8240]

Joe Gallaway said it was 80% correct and 20% Hollywood bullshit!

[@smushemz92]

I was listening to this podcast for the second time today as I got tattooed. Often my tattoo artist will tell of some of her other clients who complain and wriggle during their sessions. These were men who sustained HEAVY damage, and still got after it. Kids my age are whining over a voluntary needle poke. Everyone needs to listen to this podcast. So much solid knowledge, and things are constantly put into perspective. Oh you had a bad day? You have no new holes in you and your limbs are all there, AND you’re breathing, you’re fine.

[@cusefan5510]

Sam Elliot was such a great choice to play plumley in that movie. Just hard as fucking nails. Fought enough wars for Several lifetimes

[@1low8te]

Gen. Hal Moore is from KY.... Super Proud to say that.....

[@LiftYourLegacy]

THIS WAS AWESOME!! Amazing book, loved the movie, and as always Jocko its fantastic to hear the commentary

[@709mash]

Whilst the movie was not as accurate and detailed as the book, nor could it be, it was a great film. Really showed the vigor of the Air Cav. It also showed the bravery and resolve of the NVA as well. Got to respect your enemy.

[@bradkister79]

What a great read. I have always been a huge fan of Hal Moore, and the heroism of the air Cav at the Battle of the Ia Drang. One little side note. Captain Tony Nadal did a tour in Vietnam with special forces, prior to petitioning for a command in the air Cav

[@astondriver]

the great Rick Rescorla on the front of the book. hero of Sept 11. and a fellow Brit to boot.

[@Compton2952]

Well good evening Gentlemen. Get After It

[@Compton2952]

MERRY CHRISTMAS

[@0hsleep3r]

GOOD EVENING.

[@alexcarbajal289]

@@Compton2952 grj 111111111 11111111111 111111111111111

[@hethinkshesfunny]

Absolutely Electrifying! Beyond Studs by any measure!

[@bminturn]

It's a great book. I was lucky enough to have found it before the movie came out. I'm not even sure what spurred me to buy it, but I've read it probably 4-5 times since.

[@zebulon8819]

Jocko/ Echo 2024 ✌️♥️

[@warriorwealthsolutions]

Awesome yet again guys! 🇺🇸🗽

[@dismemberedlamb9104]

Absolutely love the way Mr. Willink narrates. Phenomenal and well done. 🇺🇸

[@threevisum3271]

GARRY OWEN!!! an Irish fightin tune!! Hal Moore another son of Ireland and American legend!

[@ronaldrisden3168]

Best ever podcast “GOOD”

[@alexsung4159]

Am I the first to say GOOD when this came out?

[@shaedaniels8518]

we may not care what you guys look like it adds value to the experience to see the expressions made during book reviews and to see the passion you both have in the product you deliver. Thank you.

[@rmv4646]

Wow. I don't have words to explain this. Heros!

[@thingyshappening2962]

Love you guys! Found you through Tim Ferriss, so thankful for this.

[@jaftb2012]

Looking forward to this conversation!

[@Mentalpatiencevapes]

Greetings from Canada. This was my favorite podcast yet. Keep up the good work fellas.

[@tjpohorelsky4399]

Powerful podcast guys! Home of the brave because of the brave. I’ll be patiently waiting for the follow-up. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years Jocko and Echo.

[@bobby5139]

This whole war hits different.my dads family went through Vietnam when pol pot was alive.they live in America now

[@sasquatch6829]

Thank you both. Long format. Keep it up

[@WolfManJammer]

Astounding. Thank you.

[@edwardneary8895]

Back to the book

[@threevisum3271]

Fantastic episode. thank you Jocko & Echo

[@dannyrangel2431]

My Father was in this battle , SGT John Rangel , his actions are described by Bill Beck , as the Sgt who is bayoneting the enemy soldier in the chest . In the second printing of the book the soft cover his name was added . He was in " A" company under Capt Tony Nadal , and His Lt Walter Joe Marm who was awarded the MOH .

[@billyboyer]

Hey man I looked up your Dad. I saw he passed away 6 months ago or so, may he rest easy on Fiddler's Green. Much respect here.

[@dannyrangel2431]

@@billyboyer , yes sir he passed on 18 Feb 21 , thank you for reaching out . He is with his brothers now from LZ XRAY ....

[@BrianBirdy]

What an unbelievable account of true courage and valour in the face of overwhelming odds. Willard Perish in the foxhole.... holy s@#t ! As a civilian, we forget (or maybe we can't truly comprehend) how blessed and lucky we are to enjoy the freedom that so many brave men and women have fought to protect

[@currentlywaiting4298]

50:25 Finishes paragraph *sigh* BACK TO THE BOOK

[@andrewphelan9229]

That's Rick Rescorla (apologies if I have misspelled his name) on the cover of the book.

[@zaadmaada6666]

RIP Joe Galloway

[@jacobepetersen]

"Shot in the face? No factor. I'm going to show leadership right now," - Put that into perspective.

[@vincentjoyce455]

"Gary OWEN!" Rick Rescorla is the PL on the cover of the book. He was known to sing songs to bolster his men. Not a normal LT, he served in Rhodesia and then moved to the US to join the fight with the USA. rickrescorla.com

[@chrischapel9165]

Rescorla was the hero of 911...he was head security of the trade center....

[@livelyone1791]

You guys are the best. I had the opportunity to meet and play bagpipes for survivors of this battle several years ago. Gerry Owen!

[@kellyfj]

WHo is Gerry Owen? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garryowen_(air)

[@10Cnote]

I didn’t know about LZ Albany and thought LZ X-Ray was bad enough, but it only got worse. I read this book a while after watching the movie and it tore me up and I was almost crying the closer I got to the end. As much as the movie is Hollywood made, Hal Moore, Basil Plumply and Joe Galloway were behind the camera and said “They finally got it right”. That is enough for me.

[@travisbond635]

How did the choppers get these men back to base? It would take a huge chopper to haul all the sets of steel balls from the battlefield. Amazing leadership from young men that were boys just days before. God bless them all and God bless America. 🇺🇸

[@TacticalXRays]

christmas eve in germany. GOOD EVENING. danger close cleared hot

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

GOING TO THE VALLEY OF SCREAMING SOULS BOYS

[@robertcaldwell9226]

Jocko. Please do a podcast about LZ Albany.

[@cagrangersealninja3720]

My fater was in Ia Drang. He never talked about it but he struggled with it till his passing.

[@seanberthiaume8240]

See the interview of Bob Bebe or Beebee? from Montana and what a horrific battle my God!

[@sparky12261]

Respect guys... total respect. Jocko's delivery made me cry frequently... Unlike some others I think the Movie was incredibly faithful to the book. I have watched it well over 20 times...

[@aphysique]

Echo lookin SWOL as fooooooook!!!💪💪

[@1fitRN]

aphysique echo gettin lean!

[@duckwalker1]

Awesome.

[@sebastianmelmoth7331]

Anyone noticed how many war hero’s seem to have Irish roots..... must be something in Irish blood for fighting! ☘️ 🇺🇸

[@sgshulte7283]

Great video Jocko 👍

[@hw934]

good work

[@rodeosound]

Thx jocko

[@danielhawkins9717]

You know Echo made the connection with Joe Galloway from a few good men and that’s what is important lol

[@xJester23]

Good evening

[@bruhsoup6320]

Jocko has never washed the victory shirt by the way 😀

[@dylancreech8146]

War is hell. “If not me, then who?” ~ Travis Manion

[@juancedillo5496]

GOOD

[@rupben01]

I have read this book 6 times, and Albanny afterwards with the fkkk up thereafter... Hal Moore was a tough thinker and a tough man... Look at his interviews and his mouth expressions... All of them were hard fkkkrs... If 'McDade' was dropped into LZ Xray... They would have all died...

[@pdb6157]

I bet Vietnam was louder than Korea and WW2 Bc everyone had full auto weapons and it was at alot closer range

[@alexanderbutler2989]

Discipline. Leadership. Bravery. Oh and the occasional 105 round dropping in and a tank or two of napalm. Those men were heros but they would all be dead heros without American fire superiority. A brave man may charge a pillbox empty handed. He will be killed. A coward in a pillbox seeing the enemy charge will be killed alongside. Look up "banzai charge". Machine gun>sword

[@evalex71]

Another epic episode

[@hounddog2952]

OOORAH

[@jbcf4490]

Rick rescorla is the man on the front cover

[@stephenpaccone8120]

Jockooo

[@marcusbyrne4652]

Garryowen!

[@ingqca111]

COL Bruce Crandall, won the MOH for the actions mentioned in this book I think

[@adamr6794]

Correct...Too Tall Ed Freeman and Walter Marm as well

[@ottoso7044]

As he should’ve! Using his Heuy as a medium/vac! MOH action of you ask me! “Those choppers stop coming we all get slaughtered “

[@michaelrobinson4597]

Trying to catch up.

[@cavscout62]

I have always believed that War Movies in general will end when Hollyweird finds a way to pump in the fear, exhilaration, and most importantly, The SMELL of Combat. If and when that science is discovered and implemented there will never ever be another War Movie made or attended.

[@jeremymuniz7200]

You should read A Handful of Hard Men : The SAS and the Battle for Rhodesia by Hannes Wessels

[@adamr6794]

Why? We are reading about Rick Rescorla here....after reading about him in Rhodesia...JK Amen Brother

[@ramonecasborn2377]

Damn...

[@user-yf8il6we2z]

Joe Hogan brought me here

[@jonathanbouffard7312]

Rip Joe galloway

[@Jcancel54]

I never thought someone sounding out a word could be so bad ass lol

[@el5495]

anyone else have audio problems at around 1:35

[@3zajp3rd]

echo, please sit still. christalmighty!!!!

[@memento_mori_22]

"Tower collapsed"..sure

[@chancecampman4825]

Shinook

[@greg8946]

Lefevre=.La Fave.... English major😀

[@seabiscuit6776]

Thank Gos for Vietnam.............. I mean this podcast?

[@OscarLimaMike]

How dare you talk about ownership and responsibility when right now you are abdicating your responsibility and your duty to step up for your country when it needs you the most. I respect you. However haven't you looked around lately? What is it going to take for you to step up and to take responsibility for your position your potential to be one of the greatest presidents this nation has ever seen. What is it going to take?

[@sychophantt]

You weren't soldiers, you were corporate mercenaries

[@fljosh12]

sychophantt weather must be real nice from that moral high ground of yours lol

[@sychophantt]

I'm just telling it like it is. Stop making these corporate murderers heroes

[@JN-yf6gm]

Heroes fight for fellow Soldiers.

[@sychophantt]

Soldiers fight for cportations. And they don't even fight against the other country's military. They invade places

[@tricepsish]

Many of these soldiers were conscripts though right?