Jocko Podcast 275 w/ The Relentless Danger From The Air in Vietnam w/ Huey Pilot, Col. Matt Jackson

[@anonymousforagoodreason2479]

My grandpa ben was a Lt col in Vietnam, flew the hu-16 albatross in combat search and rescue missions. Awarded the distinguished flying cross for one certain mission in the gulf of Tonkin. My uncle was one of you guys, a SEAL in nam. Graduated buds in 65, served two tours with seal team 2. Both men are gone from this world, so I no longer get to hear them talk. Listening to these interviews with the older crew, really makes it feel as if im listening to my relatives once again. Thank you Jocko. And thank you Matt.

[@chrismurray600]

Nifinf

[@chrismurray600]

Gngn

[@JGizzardofOz]

Was it the fake gulf of tonkin incident which tricked the people into halfway supporting this war of aggression and greed that pushed heroin worldwide and killed 60,000 men, and millions of innocent people??

[@romanshibilski7093]

@@JGizzardofOz all you do is comment some weird regurgitated nonsense on these videos. You need help

[@melanieladbrooke1221]

Roman Shibilski how people like you cannot see the gulf of Tonkin was a false flag is disturbing, the pentagon admitted it , look it up unless your too scared of reality

[@frankrizzo4779]

I could listen to these old timers all day everyday. Thank you for getting their stories on record.

[@lard_lad_AU]

The Vietnam veterans are getting on in age. We need to hear their stories before they are gone.

[@larryathey121]

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[@troyblackwell3995]

I was a Marine grunt in Viet Nam and the one thing I admired about the Army was their helicopter pilots. They didn't require their pilots to be officers like the Marines and Navy did. As a consequence, their pilots were as young and crazy as the grunts in the field. Most of them were crazy brave.

[@tattooed92]

I love how Jocko is noticeably humble when speaking to his elder war vets. He definitely seems a little less intense when speaking to them as opposed to echo or vets younger than him!

[@seanberthiaume8240]

@Jocko Podcast keep spittin' out these vids Hoss! Sean Iraq 2003-2004 & 2007-2008 retired Army USMC(peace time 80-84 grunt!)...

[@MikeG.666]

@@seanberthiaume8240 Bro, I think this a fake account. Same copy and paste on many comments. Not real.

[@MikeG.666]

@@seanberthiaume8240 Also, thank you for your service❤. From one non troll/bot to another.

[@danielbianchi3479]

I definitely agree!

[@BlueRidgeCommentary]

A lot of that is also that the younger guys, Jocko tends to personally know prior to the episodes. The older vets tend to come on shortly after an introduction.

[@morenofranco9235]

Jocko! I am so happy I found you. My wife tells me I might have left the Army - but the Army never left me. *I can see here, I am not alone in that.* The Colonel is a real Gem of a Soldier! I was a gunship Flight Lieutenant with the Rhodesian Army 3 Air Supply Cal Sign: "3 Airmobil" in 1972. A gunship is an incredibly complex and dangerous machine. The environment can suddenly become an adreniline-fuelled, gut-wrenching horror show. I have seen you on several shows. And now I found THIS! While watching you on Lewis Howes' channel. As an old Soldier - I have a great interest in listening to other old Soldiers' stories. *"Carry On! Soldier!" Semper Fi!* Thank you. Of course I am now SUBSCRIBED!

[@En_Hiver]

I always stay for Echo’s reminders how to stay in the GAME

[@mercedesw211classic]

It has become a real history channel, well done.

[@l0rd_of_hollows681]

I think you mean, GOOD

[@Spiffo12]

@Jocko Podcast -_-

[@redacted5035]

Meanwhile on History Channel...

[@redacted5035]

@@Spiffo12 just report them as spam, KZbin is kind of good with taking down spam if you flag it Edit: and voila! I hate these fake bots, Lex Fridman's channel comments is crawling with these losers too

[@Spiffo12]

@@redacted5035 I signal that channel as a ""fraud" 2 weeks ago already. Still there....

[@firehorse_44alpha-omega]

Thank you for taking the time here Col. Jackson. Thank you gentlemen -

[@Auss10n]

Jocko has gotten me back into reading! Been buying all the SOG books I can find. And will be adding this to my collection!

[@katherineletterman1948]

I find myself addicted to your channel. Thank you for what you're doing here. I am not a service member nor a veteran but have massive respect for our military. I serve as a board member of a charity (Bombshell Betty's Calendar for Charity) built to help our local veterans. Thank you again for your service and for this podcast.

[@cavscout62]

We Veterans Thank You and others like you who reach out to us from an obvious place of Love. We are the recipients of tons of PC Lip Service which has become a joke for the most part however when we encounter people like you that our genuine we recognize and appreciate it more than you know.🤘🏼

[@WestCoastIrk]

awesome guest! Thankyou for your service Col. Matt Jackson!

[@robbyrobinson4500]

My uncle served during Vietnam and retired early days of the Iraq/ Afghan war. He finished up in the air force reserves, but still served his country proudly. I'm 45 yrs old, and it did not dawn on me how important it was for him to do that until I started watching Vietnam guys on Jocko podcast. Great info Jocko

[@garydaly]

How good is the Internet. How good are podcasts. How good is JWPC. I'm a former army medic (Iraq 1991) and listening/watching JWPC guests, commentary, stories and sincerity of the shared experiences contributes to the brotherhood. It makes my day. Thank you.

[@MikeG.666]

Thank you for your service. ❤

[@georgemalekosjr4020]

You've change my life in a positive way Jocko..thanks you bro.

[@forxfilms]

Getting up listening to this doing some pull ups in the dark

[@jerrymarshall2095]

16 oz curls here.

[@danmorash6982]

Keep killing it!

[@BostonsF1nest]

I decided to do some haho jumps

[@adamgardener8624]

Hellya. Darkness.

[@danmorash6982]

@@MM-eo2oz good!

[@OregonMinuteman]

Thank You Jocko, The Vietnam Veteran Interview's Are My Favorite.

[@jeffjohnson48]

Thank you for having the author on your podcast. I listened to the podcast then bought the books out of curiosity knowing my dad flew in Lam Song 719. Within 20 pages (the Lam Song 719 book) his name was mentioned. Your podcast influenced me to chat with my dad about what I read. He’s talked about it a bit but I never imagined he did some of the things mentioned in the books. I can’t fathom what these young men (not so young now) went through in combat. I would love to hear more stories from these guys. Again, thank you for keeping this podcast going.

[@Userr0557]

I did a 12 mile ruck morning listening to this podcast. I pushed myself hard and got a new PR of 2:24:01

[@Lordestroyer]

I’ve learned so much about The Vietnam Conflict just from your podcast. In the 80’s, it was completely breezed over in Social Studies/History class. Thank you!

[@ThinkingJeff]

Same thing for me in the 2000s-2010s. Korean War? Never heard of it 🤷🏻‍♂️ Independent research is the way I guess

[@firstnamelastname9444]

Once again, Jocko, I am listening at 3:40:00 in and I will listen through the support section as I do every time. Echo, this is your time so keep getting after it. The more Jocko podcast the better!

[@jettsetter7]

Your dad is flying with you as a door gunner?!? WHAT?! 🤣 That is crazy

[@bassaholicpong]

Can we have Mike Durrant here sometime in the future? I'm sure Jocko will have a lot to speak about the Nightstalkers.

[@montananomad2247]

Great idea...I would love to hear Mr. Durrant's story and I am extremely curious about any dialouge Mike would have had that day between himself, Shugart and Gordon.

[@jordanerickson4858]

Yes Michael Durant " In The Company of Heroes

[@basicgunbros4332]

Yesssss!!!

[@mattbrown1410]

This aged well

[@bassaholicpong]

@@mattbrown1410 My Christmas gift came early.

[@MikeG.666]

Jocko. Gets up early. Works out. Fathers. Surfs. Trains. Teaches. Podcasts. And somehow finds time to read these giant books to prep. Bro, I don't know how he does it. Crams 60 hours into a 24hr day. Unbelievable work ethic.

[@jeremymitchell1311]

Wtf with these comments for bit coin?

[@MikeG.666]

They are everywhere. Apparently I'm Mr Harry now. Obviously not legit.

[@l0rd_of_hollows681]

he explains it a few times in prior podcasts

[@lard_lad_AU]

@@jeremymitchell1311 effin scammers mate

[@Spiffo12]

just massively signal this account .

[@ECGran]

I will not forget the sacrifices of those men that served, and I am thankful for them all. I am grateful for this podcast and humbled by all that I learn.

[@AJ-jq5zw]

Amazing!! Please Jocko, can we have some more SOG vets sometime? Please?

[@R.Tafolla]

@Jocko Podcast lmao faake

[@sleavitt5135]

This is such a great "interview" talk I listened all the way through even though I didn't have the time to do that. Keep it up Jocko. Love listening to real stories.

[@NinjaMagoo]

I always got along with the old-timers better than my peers. When I was a kid growing up, many of the dads were Vietnam vets. Some told their stories, others were quiet, and some others who were my mentors, were still making new stories every day! That's how I learned how powerful or mind can make our bodies. They were machines, and while we were young, we were almost invincible machines too.

[@MrBilly989]

I cant believe these giants are amongst us. These men are the standard to try and attain. It should be easy with the amenities we enjoy today but never the less most of us fall short of these great men. Thankyou for your service. All the men and women in the armed forces you enable us civilians to enjoy our easy lives. I hope we dont squander your hard work and sacrifice.

[@CJR505]

One of the best sit downs ever! I remember hearing about this guy when I got to the 101st in 2002 as a Blackhawk Crew Chief. LEGEND

[@jasonmpd2946]

Your podcast is a documentary of record for these courageous Vietnam War veterans. Absolutely awesome.

[@SweatyFatGuy]

Chopper pilots are a special kind of crazy. My brother enlisted in the Army two days before I got home from the first gulf war, drove trucks hauling tanks around Kuwait and Iraq until 2005, then he went Warrant and learned to fly Blackhawks. Apparently getting shot at in a HET wasn't sporty enough for him, he wanted everyone to shoot at him. Two tours in Afghanistan usually flying the birds with all the guns, then a few years as an instructor at Riley. He flies civilian medevac now. He is definitely a special kind of crazy. I joined the USAF, they worked me so hard in the airlift it made me overly muscular and huge in the first gulf war, then they punished me for my size until I got out. Makes me think I should have been a Marine or joined the Army, because I wanted to fly too.

[@SweatyFatGuy]

@Jocko Podcast Who is Mr Harry? None of my jarhead friends mentioned that.

[@johncalia8598]

That's ridiculous my dad was in the USAF as well but he was in during Vietnam the AF were on my dad's back about dropping weight constantly through his 4 year's he served they put him on a weight loss plan my dad told them to shove it up there ass and to choke on it!! Lmao!!! There is nothing quite like a Vietnam vet!! Got to love those guy's thanks for you're service Sir. I appreciate you and you're muscles you had developed busting you're ass day in and day out so we can live and have the opportunities only afforded to us because you guy's fought and fight for are freedom everyday thanks man!!!😎👍🇺🇸

[@ianmedford4855]

Good evening Echo. Good evening Mr President. I'm gonna drop this in every Jocko comment section until he announces his candidacy or i get sent to a labor camp by Jiao Bai Ben. Whichever comes first.

[@rileytodd4050]

All those who went to Vietnam thank you! My grandfather did 5 tours over there and was part of Macvsog crew chief and gunner ch-3e helicopters 64-14222

[@nickragni5007]

Goin through a breakup these episodes have helped a lot to clear my mind this is the best podcast of all time so real

[@j-ferrell144]

Hang in there, we have all been thru it with at least one love of hour life, it stings, it heals, you move on. Have a warriors mentality and you will be fine

[@TheFlyOnTheWallMedia]

Just finished this, what a steller human being, love and respect from accross the pond!

[@TRockett55IRISH]

Just an outstanding interview as the son of a Canadian USMC Vietnam veteran very appreciative of hearing the interviews like this about my pops generation and what they did .

[@N0M0RENAME]

It’s between Col Jackson and SOG Warrior Dick Thompson (204, 05, or 06) for my favorite Jocko Podcasts of all time. I’ve listened to a ton of em, including all SOG stories and Jocko Unraveling, but gah dayum this one absolutely never gets old.

[@cagrangersealninja3720]

As always, all of your podcasts are exceptional. I especially look forward to the Vietnam vets 🇺🇸

[@Jitsuman]

This was one of the coolest episodes so far, took me 2 workdays to finish it but i could listen to that guy talk for another 4 hours 😂

[@Yourmomsakingsfan]

The standard 24 hour period has no effect on Jocko Podcast. Jocko Podcast creates more time in the day for you to listen to Jocko Podcast. No factor. Check.

[@sailesemanoel2755]

Please, invite some North Vietnam vet to talk about that war. Thanks for the lessons!

[@lightheartedchipmunk2513]

Ho chi mein

[@4himsanctified]

great idea

[@jesseglenturner]

Awesome 👍🏻 My uncle spent 3 tours in 'Nam as a crew chief, often inserting and evac for the LRRPs in places we officially "weren't there." He rarely talked about it, but the stories were as horrific as they were amazing. Mad respect for those guys!

[@heatherjalbert7406]

Just here to say Thank You whole heartedly for all the men and women that have fought a war that many of us are too afraid to fight❤ Proudly salute you all. Love you. May God shine the light upon our warriors always. May the families of our fallen heroes be at peace and know their soldier will forever be a treasure to us All❤ 🙏

[@Bass_Playa_Two_Point.O]

One of my first jobs after High School was as a member of a framing crew building houses. Another crewman was a young man named Stanley. He was about twenty-eight or so, thin, blond, tallish, good-natured but kind-of reserved. He had an air about him of not being all-the-way there and often had a faraway look in his eye. He'd been a Warrant-officer helicopter pilot during the war and had mentioned having been shot down four times during his tour. I remember reading decades ago that we lost approximately fourteen-thousand rotary-wing aircraft during the war. I have no idea as to the accuracy of that figure, but being on a chopper was an extremely dangerous assignment. I've had a number of friends and acquaintances who were helicopter crewman during Vietnam, and most of them had interesting pucker-factor stories to tell. God bless them, and Stanley. Welcome home, and I hope you found some peace and are doing well. He'd be in his early 70's by now. Your sacrifice is acknowledged and very much appreciated.

[@MrJimodoom]

Incredibly entertaining and riveting podcast, I am definitely going to read his books.

[@tonyfknb3896]

Love these fantastic men and their extraordinary experiences that they get to share with the world on your channel, so never to be forgotten about and to get the honor and respect they all deserve. I salute everything you are doing with this podcast and the great men and women that bless our ears with their honorable history in the armed services.

[@venivinivinci]

Jocko I gotta give it to you for bringing on the sog and vietnam guys! I got to be apart of a vietnam agent orange fund raiser out in Colorado just south of ft Carson and got to really learn the pain they are going through and listen to them it was an honor

[@connerwilliams9131]

Stories with these Veterans are priceless. They won’t be around forever so thank you Jocko and Echo for making this possible. Fucking Incredible

[@jbplastic9023]

My dad was a Huey pilot in Vietnam, served 2 tours. 281st Assault Helicopter Company. He was part of the U.S. Army’s First Special Operations helicopter Company. Was stationed in Nha Trang. Was attached as requested to Detachment B-52, Project Delta, a special operations augmentation unit that conducted reconnaissance and other clandestine operations throughout the country in South Vietnam. He served in the 1966 Delta mission. Called themselves The WolfPack. He graduated as a Warrant Officer Rotary Wing Aviator Course 65-11. Began career as the pilot of an armed helicopter in the 6th Aviation platoon at Bien Hoa VN which merged with the 281st when it arrived in Ft. Benning.

[@SweatyFatGuy]

I am old enough to remember "Chicken Man" on the radio back when Vietnam was still going and I had fighter jets flying treetop level over our farm, sonic booms every few days..

[@morenofranco9235]

YESSS!!!!

[@mikee6299]

By the way...i do enjoy the closing. I'm listening

[@01sevensix]

Another cracking piece of history preserved. Thanks Jocko.

[@WreckerWarsdotcom]

This is the best interview I've ever listened to. I'm ordering these books mon morning

[@beatificbroseph]

Shipping to OCS soon for the Marines on an aviation contract, when I first thought about joining all I wanted to fly was jets but after listening to the Seawolves and this podcast, all I’m thinking about are helicopters! Thanks for such an incredible podcast, valuable lessons as always!

[@MikeG.666]

Best wishes.

[@basicgunbros4332]

Don’t get lost on land nav

[@gigilaco]

Ffs I wake up to this guys voice almost every day. Always shows up in my playlist

[@MrBojangles2020]

He flew huey gunships with his dad in nam!!!! How amazing

[@MrBojangles2020]

@Jocko Podcast Thanks jocko going to go invest my life savings

[@aleksc4376]

That dude gotta be the only pilot who's dad was his door gunner on a combat mission. lol

[@DavidThomas-qq4hf]

My dad's first cousin was a warrant officer huey pilot in Vietnam. He flew alot of SOG missions as part of the 170th Attack Helicopter Company out of Plieku. He was killed April 15, 1970 when his huey was shot down dropping Pathfinders and ARVN troops onto LZ Orange at the battle of Dak Seang Special Forces Camp. Turns out the LZ was an NVA Division headquarters with reinforced concrete bunkers who caught his huey, the second one in (like the Col. said, they let the 1st bird in to trap extra troops on the ground then let the 2nd one have it), in a crossfire and shot it down. Al was hit with several machine gun rounds while exiting the crashed chopper after crashing uninjured. He was helped to the side of a hill where they waited while other 170th pilots and several SOG members tried to rescue him, the other crew members, and the pathfinders. He eventually bled to death waiting for help. Unfortunately several aircraft were shot down trying to get to them, including a jolly green giant SAR chopper; and an SOG medic and several indigenous members of the SOG bright light team were killed in one of the choppers that tried to get them off the LZ. Talk about brave men stuck in a horrible situation. I have nothing but the utmost respect for these pilots and crew men and all they did for their fellow brothers in arms. Never Forget. God bless them all. 🚁🇺🇸 P.s here is a link to the whole story, worth the read...it's unbelievable all the courage shown in one morning and afternoon out of a decade plus engagement. www.macvsog.cc/dak_seang_15_apr_70.htm

[@stevenandros4586]

First rate interview! Excellent stories! I just bought the 3 volumes and can't wait to read them! Thankyou gentlemen for your service!

[@MikeG.666]

@Jocko Podcast Are you for real? I don't think so. You comment twice and don't even upvote the comment. Ok.

[@mariusfrost640]

Blackhawks are around 25 million I believe. Edit: Wow, I was so wrong, they're between 5 and 10 million depending on the model. That's amazing.

[@chadpyett6441]

Got all six of Matt's books waiting for #7 have them at least 3 times can't get enough well done amazing stories

[@curtisgallow1384]

Can't stop turning this on.

[@DRFelGood]

Jocko & Echo Charles, Excellent historical and inspiring story from Jackson. Thank you for sharing 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@d.j.ashley]

2:37:50 for anybody wanting quick access to the "Johnny" story

[@Whitesp44]

Cannot get enough of the 'Nam vets. Especially helicopter pilots and SOG. Great podcast.

[@hardtopindown7781]

Never better than when there's a grey haired warrior in the feature seat. Well done Jocko!

[@MikeG.666]

One amazing story after another. Absolutely love this guy. Buying all 3 books. Thank you.

[@Vampirebear13]

I already know, coming from a military family, those who come home do not consider themselves heroes BUT... Col. Matt Jackson is a HERO.

[@DiggitySchwag]

Attention to detail has become a lost art. I say this as a modern soldier with little to none. I wish I had gone through a program with that many challenges.

[@chrisdidios9963]

An amazing podcast, thank you for your service Col. Matt Jackson.

[@keithstone4443]

This one has to be my favorite Jocko episode

[@TexturreTrippy]

Can you interview Mike Glover? Both of you gentlemen are my favorite military youtubers to listen too. Great video by the way!

[@immortaltyger1569]

I've never seen Jocko laugh so much during an interview - in the first half at least.

[@raymccumstie1439]

Loving hearing about the actions during Vietnam I have a lot of respect for all Veterans

[@hasdrubal121]

I'm blown away by every podcast I listen to on this channel. I listen the whole way through and love Echo's input. There is always so much I'd like to say about the impact of these but they'd be essay's in themselves. Finishing Extreme Ownership and moving onto Across the fence. All that I can say is thanks and keep it up.

[@rustyrogers6563]

I am an everyday listener of your podcast, And I've read all of your books, And I just ordered my first ever products from you. And let me tell you. I have to use some hardcore discipline to not go entirely through the Vanilla Gorilla Mölk. And the Discipline Go!!! I'm a chronic energy drink user. Doing better though in staying away. The Discipline Go was just enough to get me going for the morning routine. The best part was I wasn't jittery at all. No crash. Aside from physical exhaustion over a great day of getting after it!!! Thank you for all you've done Jocko, Echo, Leif, and all of those at Origin Maine for getting after it!!! And to the members of our U.S. Armed Forces past, present, and soon to be. Thank you, for keeping this amazing nation of ours free!!!

[@joebudi5136]

My Pops was there. The landing in the jungle story is crazy.

[@c_3991]

Love these Vietnam vet stories keep kickin ass Jocko 🙌🏽💯

[@amandakellib]

This was amazing! Epic Book! Thanks for this

[@queasyislander0274]

Get after it today!

[@bradlindblad5225]

I'd like to suggest a solid Vietnam Jocko Podcast Interview subject: LRRP/Ranger Larry Chambers. Larry has written 2 books on his experiences in Vietnam with the LRP F/58th and L co 75 Rangers in I Corp from 1968 - 1969 in his books: "Death in the Ashau" and "Recondo" (Ballantine, Presidio Press). His book "Recondo" details the MACV Recondo training school that the 5th Special Forces group put on to train Long Range Reconnisance Patrol (LRRP) soldiers like himself how to bring the fight to the communists. Larry consulted and produced a History Channel show on Recondo called "The Deadliest School" in the early 2000's. Not only did he personally capture an NVA officer and conduct many operations into the deadly Ashau Valley, Larry told the story of the men in extremely entertaining fashion in his books, and he is even more lively in person. I know this because I've worked with Larry on a few projects and we're close friends.

[@jacobgreen2528]

Great stuff jocko please keep crammin these ww2/Korea/Vietnam vets on the show! God bless America!!!!

[@marcosvaldes8910]

For this episode to even have one dislike, it is ridiculous. Strong work!

[@bradkister79]

Great interview.! Thank you Jocko, for bringing the heroics of this pilot t.o the forefront. These guys were Beyond Brave

[@potpfgold100]

Bring this badass back I know you see this jocko. Jocko sees all

[@bobby5139]

Love your podcast jocko. Keep em coming. These stories are important to hear. We have many questions,your guest fill in the blanks.

[@hair4alluk]

Hey Jocko and Echo - love the podcasts and have for sometime now from the UK - always select you when I have my admin days on Mondays - thank you - though I was concerned when you chuckled when Matt told you of his smacked butt re his Dad for lying as a kid - be careful as KZbin are likely to take you off air and that would be a disaster - mild humour at the worlds madness - Regards Phil

[@victorchinchillvas]

I always stick around till the end of the podcast, always🤘🤘🤘.

[@stephenpodeschi6052]

Great insight into Vietnam and more cheers to you all..........

[@stonephilips9361]

Great episode.. Thank you Mark... I’ve already got the ebook..

[@Rebel-Rouser]

Currently reading his book for the second time!

[@donquixote812]

Black Hawks also use push-pull rods. We say rods no tubes, but it is a tube, its hollow aluminum. Difference is that there is trim hold and auto pilot that adjust the manual tubes or flight control rods. Which is just electronic actuators added to the manual "fly by wire" system.

[@eascherman9003]

Excellent episode, he has a good sense of humor like Charlie Plumb

[@FreedomandBaconHomestead]

Incredible stories. So much respect for him and those he served with.

[@biffteutsch3402]

First time to this site!!!!! “ I’ll Buy The Beer”!!!! Great interview sir!!!

[@chadpyett6441]

Got all 4 of Matt Jackson's books read them all sensational great reads

[@lashropa]

Heck yeah buddy. I drifted for a moment, missed some episodes. Good to be back.

[@earlyprimate]

LOL "breaking starch" Been there done that back in 89 when I was stationed in Turkey. We had "Abi's" in our barracks that would iron uniforms and shine boots for a small fee. Never had them do my boots because I took pride on my spit shine. However, I did have our Abi iron and starch my BDUs for guard mount and they could have stood up in the corner on their own.

[@daffyshakilfur3563]

These podcasts are unforgettable. So heavy ,

[@russ1046]

Excellent and interesting as always. No idea how you chose your interviews, but I would love to see Bob Ford Interviewed. He wrote Black Cat 21. I have read a lot of good Vietnam books, but he always sticks in my head with his incredible stories and incredible attitude. If you don't know the story I could not recommended it more highly. Take care out there.