Jocko Podcast 436: Lean Into The Pain. it Will Make You Better. With Andrew Huberman

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Andrew Huberman, Ph.D., is a neuroscientist and tenured professor in the department of neurobiology, and by courtesy, psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. He has made numerous significant contributions to the fields of brain development, brain function and neural plasticity, which is the ability of our nervous system to rewire and learn new behaviors, skills and cognitive functioning.
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[@benbrem5287]

Huberman and jocko protocol: Up b4 the enemy, work out, black coffee, water, sunlight in your eyes, fasting, healthy food choices, getting after it all day, good sleep. Rinse, repeat. Check

[@georgecoull1883]

Forgot steak 🥩

[@greenlitlleman]

@@georgecoull1883 And fucking 6 girlfriends in one day. :D

[@harryv6752]

Gnarly! 🤘

[@maxdrvn]

After 2 years of skipping episodes, finally this one is back

[@AsdeEspadas.Fernando]

You forgot read/learn something new, and value your family/friends

[@AdamLimWeiHan]

17:28 "Everyone is insane" 20:55 Importance of individuality 22:27 Courage to be authentic 23:27 True passion can't be faked 25:20 Discovering your essence 🤌🏽 27:20 Accepting denigration 33:00 “Boyish/juvenile rebellion” leads to idiosyncrasy, ingenuity, and self-mastery 35:00 Living for others 35:40 Go against the grain to uphold your values 35:55 Whatever you feed yourself (stimulus) with now WILL eventually become etched in your neurocircuits. Take NOTHING for granted 38:00 Art of being relentless 38:36 Being the "best" at nothing drives humility 39:20 "Being squared away" (Jordan Peterson: Set Your House In Perfect Order ...) 41:43 Dissent among dissenters 42:29 Difference begets change 43:00 Case Study: Danny Way Breaks The 'Punk Era' Mould I.e., Mega Ramps, >40 kph, Neck Training/Resistance Training 44:48 Case Study 2: Dr. Carla Shatz spearheaded immune-neural interactions ca. 1998 looking at neural molecules in the brain, contrary to the belief at the time that the brain was an 'immune-privileged organ' (now disproven) 45:45 Inherent fear of rejection: Why We Toe The Line 46:37 Case Study 3: Rob Dyrdek ('Deerdick' lol auto-captions) --- starts a TV Show with Bodyguard and Best Friend Christopher Boykin, with the help of Mike Blabac 47:13 Defiance and nonconformity is more challenging in life or death scenarios (high-risk, high-consequence --- better sticking to protocol) 47:27 Honourable Mention Case Study 4: Jiu-jitsu practitioner Gordon Ryan 48:10 END OF SEGMENT (See --- Vestigial Patterns Bias, Chris Williamson does a witty take on it 48:45 Breaking The Silence: Huberman Speaks Out About His Recent Online Fiasco 48:54 Huberman Labs: Background & Context 49:27 First "Wave" Of Criticism: Supplements 50:30 "Andrew Huberman Is A Bad Person." 53:00 Huberman's Personal Relationships 53:32 Huberman's Character Flaws Pilloried 54:55 Huberman's Stance On Infidelity --- Relationships & Definitions 57:01 "You Can Easily Judge the Character of a Man by How He Treats Those Who Can Do Nothing for Him" 57:40 Scientific Basis For Huberman's Affection For Costello 58:00 Life Before The Podcast 1:01:45 Rogan: The Fish That Escaped The Net 1:01:57 Authenticity is acting on your own accord, guided by values, and lesser so, ambition. 1:02:12 The Danger Of Glorifying Public Figures. They are not perfect. 1:03:07 The Internet Is BORDERLINE; spontaneous and capricious shift between vitriol and love 1:03:55 "The larger the group, the lower the level of consciousness." 1:06:04 Maybe we should just deal with conflict by fighting each other like children 1:07:37 Parallels between BPD & The Internet "Mental health condition in which a person has long term patterns of unstable or explosive emotions. Mood swings, extreme love to extreme hate of the same person. All good, or all bad, inappropriate or intense anger, chronic emptiness, plunging head first into a relationship and then ending it just as quickly." 1:09:00 Segue to AI 1:10:20 Deficiencies of AI, "uncanny valley" 1:15:26 Creating A Life: Preview to Huberman Labs episode with James Hollis "How do you know when you're aligned with your true vocation?" A vocation is what somebody is called to do in life, bar non --- this clashes with societal constraints, parental pressure (nurture), the environment, popularity and the pursuit of wealth or fame (egotistical), are all at odds with the PSYCHE. 1:17:05 Not all designations in life suit. Being a charlatan can lead to "soul death" E.g., 50-year marriages 1:17:42 "Soul-expression" ... hearing your PSYCHE speak. Disengaging from stimulus-response and simply receive. 1:20:50 "Connecting the dots" / Making sense of time You can't connect the dots going forward, but you can't connect the dots going backwards either.

[@LlZARD25]

nice

[@FriendlyHugo]

More people need to vote this up... Thank you!

[@AdamLimWeiHan]

Not done yet ... around 2 hours to go 😅

[@Anton-kd9ut]

Find it

[@Mattayo-pu4fw]

Ty

[@aboutLife-]

guys like Jocko, Huberman and Echo Charles talking about Taylor Swift from a respectful stand and admiring her work ethic while discussing political changes we will have to go through to be better at HUMANITY just made my day. thank you for this.

[@adamhs94]

This podcast felt like it was 30 minutes long. Andrew and Jocko are great to listen to together

[@iro4201]

What were you doing?

[@metabalcanico5719]

Because they are basically not saying anything

[@iro4201]

@@metabalcanico5719 Try being more acidic

[@benjaminholt6640]

@@metabalcanico5719 Exactly. I love the Hubermanlab podcast but when he's speaking off the cuff he really isn't that eloquent or interesting.

[@mahmoudkhorshidian2299]

Right?!

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

There is something about the Jocko x Huberman combination that I love. Their last podcast I listened to in May of 2022 was a critical point in improving my life where after hearing their discussion I really got after it that spring/summer. It sparked a pattern of behavior where I drove 2.5 hours to volunteer at a summer camp every weekend from June-August. I bought the audiobooks for Extreme Ownership & Dichotomy of leadership to listen to on my weekly drives. Looking back, Episode 332 was hugely influential and beneficial to my mental and physical wellbeing. I’m just over an hour in and think this will be the next huge evolution leading into this summer. Thanks guys. GET SOME!

[@AndiHuberman-iz2ht]

It sounds like you’re doomed. Delete your KZbin, throw your phone away and go into the woods for 4 days alone. Bring two books, The Road & Benjamin Franklin: An American Life. Guarantee you won’t need a podcast ever again.

[@aditimascarenhas5608]

He responds to the article at 50:30 Youre welcome.

[@lewisyoung00]

love you

[@mmehysteria]

love you

[@camilogv]

Love u

[@Grero]

Here for just this. LOL.

[@austins9368]

Love u

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

Huberman part 2?!?! LETS FREAKING GO.

[@nieljohn6768]

"The scientific explanation is: Fuck you" 🤣

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

that was a first hearing him swear lolol

[@RudeSaiyan]

57:35

[@iro4201]

Best kind of science

That was priceless! Scientific proof that this man loved his dog DEEPLY.

[@user-yg4zr9dg6m]

Show respect boy

[@cmottram26]

Hubes and Jocko, my favorite duo.

[@Wingedmagician]

Hubes is not a good nickname 😅

[@BowlerTheHatGuy]

have you followed his harem protocol?

[@TrueWalker88]

@@Wingedmagician He said that's what his pals used to call him as a kid.

[@El_Capitano_O]

It’s good to see Andrew in your Podcast. You have to either invite him often or start a new side podcast. You make the perfect team.

[@101shred]

This would be awesome!

[@BulDurham]

No, don't do that

[@robertnowak5844]

This feels like such an organic conversation between friends, and yet has intensely powerful implications. Great podcast 👏

[@landonp4726]

*Jocko gets exposed Jocko: “Good…now the people know the truth”

[@AsdeEspadas.Fernando]

I am from Argentina. I wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart. Both your channels changed my life for the best (just as an example, cant believe i lost 20 kgs using you as inspiration and changing my exercise and nutrition habits). Please do not fall for the EASY bait of people who know nothing more than hating and trying to throw dirt on the ones DOING.

[@xsw882]

Jocko o Huberman?

[@thelastofthemonitos6994]

Milei es caca :)

[@roobucknevada4749]

You know it's going to be a good day when a Jocko (and Echo, of course) and Huberman podcast drops!! Looking forward to this one!!

[@virtualpaladin3507]

I started listening to Punk Rock/ Straight edge metal when my father died. It's been 10 years now and this type of music has been infused with my brain. I'm now listening to bands like Hatebreed, No Retreat, Cold Hard Truth, Enemy Mind, Throwdown, and so on, Some of the hardest music ever.

[@Saturnreturn123]

His faux acknowledgement of the allegations revealed his narcissism. He was more concerned with his image, being diagnosed by people than actually being accountable. He’d make a great politician. Sociopaths and narcissists make great politicians

[@Mariaharris143]

Loved this conversation! It’s always fun to see Andrew Huberman being interviewed. His response to people talking shit about him caring for his dog is priceless “fuck you!!”🤌🏽 I agree that how people care for their animals (or don’t care) says alot about them. Thank you!!

[@Girlintherocket]

Hitler loved animals too.

[@jasminebarratt1809]

I know a couple of abusers who look after their animals well.

[@Mariaharris143]

@@Girlintherocket do you need a hug?

[@Mariaharris143]

@@jasminebarratt1809 I hear what you are saying and just because he took excellent care of his dog doesn’t mean he hasn’t been abusive. It also doesn’t mean he has. I respect and appreciate him and will not be passing any judgment based on interviews with women he’s been romantically involved with. Seems pretty silly to hop on that bandwagon but if you choose to do so, I respect your choice✌️❤️💛💚

[@TatiyanaDean]

I’m not a man…but I’m so excited to watch this. I won’t even finish it tonight because I’ll be working on some music but…thank you

[@harryv6752]

💯 🔥 🤘

[@rec-itgaming4153]

1:29:35 "When you go to far left or right" I understand this more than I have words to type in a comment section.

[@paulrusinko666]

Im 53. I had same experience not only with punk but thru the metal scene in the early 80's. Black Flags "Damaged" is one of my favorites.😂. Ih and great conversation. Very relatable in insightful for me.

[@alexc4455]

Are we just going to glaze over the fact that Huberman has a Hollywood quality Cookie Monster impersonation?

[@shuvrabhowmik6054]

A podcast of goggins and jocko would be the best ..

[@self-improvement294]

I don't think they like each other. I think Goggins is controversial in military.

[@RevellAndRepend]

I felt like this episode in particular was very open and honest both ways. I also like the banterish chemistry Jocko has with Andrew, great ep.

[@akshay777able]

Bring david goggins on the podcast

[@michelleadams5609]

He's an angry man. The Bible calls them fools. I'd rather agree with the bible in that respect.

[@Delorian82]

Bad idea

[@JoseDaPrimo]

​@@Delorian82 Why?

[@Delorian82]

@@JoseDaPrimo Personality clash, they won't get along

[@moonplug1351]

Jocko isn't hard enough for Goggins

[@fatherburning358]

Authenticity is replete with mistakes, just like the Dr said, so are we all. Great fkn podcast Jocko. 💪💪🔥🔥

[@AL.06]

Yes!! Three hours of Jocko and Huberman together - I’m sorted for the day

[@jamiesaari]

I loved this conversation and wanted to encourage you both to continue the life-changing work you do. You have both had a profound impact on my life in more ways than you will ever know. The negativity that comes from putting yourself out there must be hard to tolerate. Keep your chin up.

[@g.g.4526]

Loved the first podcast, round 2 let’s go

[@monte4018]

Jocko doesn’t wake up and look at the sun … instead, the sun wakes up and looks at Jocko!

[@danielneriro]

Heck yea

[@joshpointoh]

When i heard Operation Ivy, i gained a ton of respect for this guys music taste

[@JediSoHigh]

Even lies can wake up at 4 in the morning... but the truth never sleeps

[@MealTeam6]

Rah rah rah

[@JediSoHigh]

@@MealTeam6 Cold blooded murder is a serious offense that the soul may have to pay for one day. And not just a “rah rah rah” .

[@PumpkinSmacker]

@@JediSoHighwhat happened?

[@JediSoHigh]

@@PumpkinSmacker The story I'm hearing is that back in 2006, Jocko supposedly let Chris Kyle go on a killing spree in Ramadi just to rack up numbers so they could sell loads of books, star in movies, and become big stars on KZbin someday. But wait, Mr. PumpkinSmacker, I've got an even better question for you: What does one do with the water that comes from a dirty cup?

[@skaBABBLZ]

This is gonna be a good one. Gonna have this on during training 🔥

[@freeconsciousness7789]

So awesome, I was just listening to the interview with Jocko on Huberman’s show yesterday!

[@adahlawson9113]

Def run for office, it's needed. Things are bad enough. Hubes we support you!

[@dorotejadnb]

Jocko has Hubbys back? Good to know. Says a lot about his own character and how he operates.

[@joryiansmith]

This was a really fun conversation, thank you guys 🙏

[@vincecapri1]

Green Beret Chronicles, check it out!!!!! You need to ask this guy on your podcast!

[@paulogorris18]

Great to see Hubes finally addressing this head on.

[@helgaotto7801]

More like rambling for 10min. I don’t even know what that was

[@paulogorris18]

I'm afraid to say that maybe it went over your head. He clearly said that those women thought they had a relationship that, in reality, they didn't. They were just bootie calls thinking they were real girlfriends. @@helgaotto7801

[@sfraw]

This is one of my favorite episodes! Two of my favorite people ❤️ very cool. Thank you!

[@livelyvortex2961]

Yas! I haven’t even heard the whole podcast yet but it has already made my day listening to fellow old school punks telling the tales. I too was in the Bay Area mid 80’s with purple hair and safety pins in my ears messing around at Gilman, the Mabuhay, etc, living the punk scene. The many decades between then and now i have been powering through that soul death that was mentioned. So becoming an avid listener to both Jocko and Huberman podcasts has been a genuine lift to my spirit, perspective and attitude. I think the long Huberman episodes are excellent as I have a commute so perfect fuel for my brain to and from work. Huge Jocko fan. My son is Air Force (myself a Navy vet) so exposure to the books and supps has been a game changer in my habits and self talk. Was just so excited to hear references to Strummer, the Ramones, Jello, I had to message. Ok now I can drive my commute and hear the rest. Just Mahalo meh dudes.

[@miloskovacevic2245]

Dammit man, Huberman is so good at interviewing people, he just interviewed Jocko in his own pod 🤣 I’m not even mad

[@mmotorheadzzz]

Love you guys, thank you for everything you do.

[@HappyLearner-jb7jp]

What an awesome podcast.

[@lauraalbuquerque7298]

I love Huberman

[@HistoryofWesternCivilisation]

How lucky we are to live in an era where we can learn from the best of our civilisation, and the best themselves can exchange ideas.

[@twelvepandacubs]

You've misspelled the word civilization not only in your comment but your username as well. Are you Chinese or Russian?

[@HistoryofWesternCivilisation]

@@twelvepandacubs it’s british english 😂

[@Rudzani]

@@twelvepandacubsAmericans when they realise that 96% of the world doesn’t live in the U.S., and British spelling is not “misspelling”.

[@twelvepandacubs]

@@RudzaniI'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the loud sound of freedom.

[@twelvepandacubs]

@@HistoryofWesternCivilisation disgusting, get that communist crap out of here.

[@Wake325th]

In response to Jocko saying he never expected people to enjoy him reading old 1st person war stories, I gotta say, I personally wish he would cover even more, the earlier podcasts were my absolute favorites. Very underrated.

[@matthewmarston5149]

Vietnam has been the tone for Afghanistan and Task Force Bruiser

[@IIngvar]

This will be an amazing episode. ❤

[@michaelpetrus19]

Always great rapport between you two..............thanks

[@SandervkHistory]

This one is going to be great!

[@mariolongtin8271]

Andrew and Jocko are two of the greatest men of our generation - real talk!

[@kaliebmussie7819]

It is very cool seeing man speaking like man

[@ephraimwinslow]

I am done with grown men who speak and act like teen girls. It's embarrassing. You're supposed to a have a modicum of phoquing gravitas and dignity as an adult male.

[@twelvepandacubs]

Is this an AI comment? 😂😂

[@kaliebmussie7819]

@@twelvepandacubs no bro😂😂😂

[@joshuavalencia8363]

Men speaking like men*

[@gijoey5912]

I became a big Hubes fan after his first appearance on Jocko Pod. Glad to see him back on the program.

[@Kansasrunner]

My favorite people together, LFG.

[@shaunmcdonald-eg1ph]

I love Huberman but I've never heard him run his gob as much as this podcast. Holy shit

[@toniwillis647]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TheICEEshow1023]

Hahahahha

[@willcuj]

Two of my favorite people. Love it. Wrong about Swift, though.

[@sasquatch6829]

“The scientific explanation is fuck you” lmfao. I recently found love for dogs. And I get it.

[@Michelle-md5kd]

Good for you and welcome to the club. Dogs Rule 🐾🦴❤

[@sasquatch6829]

@@Michelle-md5kd I’m actually fostering for a friend. Finding the love in this. I’m poaching one currently but there is one I have my eye on. Haha. Yea dude that love runs deep quickly.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

This like Cap America, Winter Soldier and Wolverine together

[@twelvepandacubs]

And you're like a nerd, virgin and incel together.

[@sfraw]

I've been vegan punkrock straightedge since 1980. I started my own business in large part from that straightedge punk rock DIY mindset. I'm a little older than Huberman but I, too, grew up in the Bay Area and definitely spent MANY hours at shows at Gilman and lots of other places especially where underage shows were happening. I share a lot of overlapping experiences, and worldview/punk rock ethics with ya all to this day. Minor Threat, Social Distortion, many others were huge for me. I hung out with skaters, artists, musicians and various misfits, but I wasn't a "Betty". Fun to hear all the stories.

[@JD-rt5xs]

"I believe that one defines oneself by reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself. To cut yourself out of stone." Henry Rollins This quote perfectly summarizes much of your podcast.

[@kgjohnson0240]

I want to see Jocko (and Echo ofcourse) with Rollins.

[@shyamlynn243]

I dote on my dog too. He's the best and definitely deserves it.

[@user-ge9lu6xd1c]

Prayers for you both

[@nicholasbrown9447]

Tip the hat to these two. Both are true examples of good American men.

[@thomasparg1981]

That was an amazing 3.5h! Enjoyed every minute of it.

[@nagaestepuping]

It’s fun how Hub’s can turn the host into the guest

[@TheFlite29]

I don't think that was Huberman's doing

[@calebkennedy321]

Where can I apply to be a member of the League of Reasonable People?

[@posie.]

Love this episode and the 332 epieode!!

[@kerryjimenez4551]

what a great conversation

[@mcav22]

Hayward Field, Eugene, Oregon I grew up there shout out!

[@TruthSubjective]

Thank you

[@CCSwag]

The intro reminds me of the bit the always sunny crew does so well, where the gang is just doing something intense or ridiculous and the camera pans out to reveal someone else was there just witnessing it. Like all of a sudden jocko stops reading this passage so intensely and there’s the HUBES.

[@alexashleigh8787]

I love sunny too

[@docmax4556]

Best of the best on progressiv path. Thx a lot.

[@tpelio12]

This episode is 🔥. Absolutely great insight by two epic humans. 💯

[@blngmz1777]

I disagree with a few things about digital property and AI statements of Dr. H. Big fan of his podcast and first time hearing his opinion on the material, but being we are learning all the new and exciting rules and laws updating and helping us towards everyone’s future. I believe a lot in doing what’s right and I agree thank goodness for God who helps us through difficult times and also steers us towards a favored blessed adventure. 😊Stay true guys thank you for what you do ❤ good hearts always prevail ❤ Thank you 🐝

[@nickjames2267]

I believe that we as people are our own god. You have to believe and for ppl its about a god or other believe systems. Its alot like manifestation you have to play the part however it may be. You really need to believe and want change and focus all your energy in the rite places and at times dont forget to always remember the past and past lessons. I learned the hard way. I lost my girlfriend and my mind. But honestly she showed me somuch but it was to late for me and her but we are talking now and asked for help from me. Its not a bad thing to need a helping hand. I didnt know what was really going on and i made life so hard for us both bc i was being so negative and i see now more then ever and its to little to late but iam able to let change happen or you will not get anywhere when your stuck in past things. Just accept everything and learn from it and dont give up and always believe that its possible to get ahead but you need to make positive progress and have the hope and it will come together more and more. She showed me Andrew and iam so thankful for that and for her. We went other ways but thats ok its never to late to fix your life

[@WillbWriting]

Gentlemen thank you. 🙏 No one will ever really know the truth about what happens behind the scene. We have a moral obligation as American men to move with integrity. If everyone took care of their square one, we could all hang out together in square two.

[@3runrob]

Andrew you don't have to explain yourself to anyone, just keep doing what you do best

[@rangeroverization]

If jocko wasn’t so intense this would be less awkward to watch.

[@mindsetmotivation9124]

Lets shift the tectonic plates... #437. Jocko Willnick and David Goggins.

[@danielneriro]

Yesss

[@BrianS-ny9yd]

Will never happen.

[@mindsetmotivation9124]

@@BrianS-ny9yd true

[@mindsetmotivation9124]

We can hope

[@anthonymiller3831]

Hell yeah. Looking forward to the next few hours.

[@Relahxe]

He admitted to having cheated in the past. I respect him even more for that.. (admitting, not cheating)

[@chadwithautism]

Khoi Minh Hoang needs love no one can think like him he can make people think so much to the point that they can't even think at all

[@jamajnasoares5702]

45:45 And that's why - in my brief, yet very heartfelt, then disappointed professional experience - academia - as it lazily is today, not how Plato forged it - will always be just a place of comfort. Never of Growth.

[@fabulous235]

I read the article that Dr. Huberman referenced and I also read some rebuttals. Having watched this I believe that he was "playing the field" but nothing worse than that. Also, 100% that a person who cares for their dog is likely a good person overall.

[@fujidenzo_kid4147]

Can you elaborate, I am really interested in this perspective

[@Anthony-dt2lr]

Beginning quotes 💜

[@sfraw]

Taylor Swift wrote the ultimate Extreme Ownership anthem... "Antihero". I often sing it to myself when dealing with things done wrong by my employees..."it's me, I'm the problem. " 😅

[@pixel5m908]

i was born with some medical conditions, at 18years of age i was 110 cm tall.. now 40 and 160 cm tall pain was my cradle, at school i was hanged on coat hangers, bulying was daily.. imagine a 20 year old boy with 1.15 m tall.. socialy i was irelevant on all spectres.. all i had to do is to organize and find constructs inside with whom i avoided a lot of pain.. today phisical pain i allways disconsider .. and i voluntary become dull to others views of me .. without Christ.. i would had remained in emotional/inner pain hell

[@LizardOnAMushroom2358]

The Philosopher Kings

[@arianebennion]

Pain of any kind represents an issue big enough to draw the needed attention to hopefully solve the problem. Keep working at the problem and it could possibly be removed. You have options if you look fkr them.

[@danielneriro]

#437 Jocko and Goggins

[@tfunz]

make it happen

[@JustSomeGuy69420]

Huberman is the next tim ferriss. Interpret that however you like lol

[@animula6908]

I look forward to these. I wish Jocko’s voice was on all my audibles.

[@CarlosVerdinOfficial]

My album was the Throwdown - Forever

[@David.M._1979]

I've seen other channels attack this gentlemen. But his advice on leadership and life has helped me make better choices. Ill continue to listen to the message this gentlemen says. Anything that happened or transpired overseas. Will be between him and the Lord. We shouldn't make judgement calls on things we have no knowledge of. Just listen to his message and better yourself.

[@jeremylloyd4252]

That is my favorite movie. It is a sad reality of how humans can be so cruel to one another.

[@cjapao8058]

32:30 Minor Threat the good ole days. Too funny 😂

[@matiitpl]

Andrew sporting Iron Heart makes my heart beat faster

[@MariaGomez-nd4bo]

Never clicked on a video so fast. I haven’t even started it and I already like it!

[@selenaclarke]

Love this guys content, Science Jesus

[@amirnaderi8470]

Hubes loves to name drop 😂