Jocko Podcast 65 w/ Leif Babin - What to Carry to Be Prepared for Battle and Life

Join the Conversation on Twitter: @jockowillink @leifbabin @echocharles
0:00:00 - Opening "The Things They Carried", by Tim O'Brien.
0:05:30 - Weapons & Equipment we carried in Ramadi.
0:1230 - A hard lesson with Over-packing Equipment for Patrol.
0:28:04 - Training for adversity.
0:39:57 - How Adversity Training Payed off in Ramadi.
0:47:12 - Heat, Stink, and Moon Dust in Ramadi.
1:03:16 - The Strain of Being in Battle: Physical and Mental.
1:23:57 - How Complacency can Creep in And Kill.
1:36:50 - Reflecting on The Muster 001, and Thoughts on Upcoming Muster 002.
1:50:38 - 1:40:13 - Support, Cool Onnit, Amazon, JockoStore stuff, with Jocko White Tea and Psychological Warfare (on iTunes). Extreme Ownership (book), (Jocko's Kids' Book) Way of the Warrior Kid, and The Muster002
2:22:18 - Closing Gratitude

[@evanangels7580]

Jocko you helped motivate me to essentially do nothing but study for my asvab for the last 2 weeks. If I wasn't studying I was listening to you and I got an AFQT of 90 today and can select any jobs I want now! Discipline is freedom.

[@jacobmorenzoni2469]

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[@accradata]

Awesome brother

[@yelinaungjkm9274]

Always getting after it!!!

[@Creapture]

@evan angels Update us man. What did you end up choosing?

[@BostonsF1nest]

Where you at now chief?

[@oneeleven9832]

Got to say extreme ownership book changed me from someone who felt sorry for themselves after 16 spine operations addicted to opiates having given up...to quitting all the drugs & walking 5 mile every morning...& i aint finished yet...my aim at the very minimum is to be running 5 mile every morning 👍🇬🇧...ive no military experience but I have total respect for these guys👍

[@mikedeluca3378]

Leif should be a mainstay!!!

[@LOST_HOMIE]

We need way more stories

[@vinniemac6076]

100%.what is echo charles job on this podcast,ask stupid questions???

[@themysticfedora]

@@vinniemac6076 uhhh you mean normal questions from a normal guy? You’re no Jocko, so don’t shit on Jockos right hand.

[@Tittos_E_36]

Leif and Jocko messing with Echo gotta be one of the funniest things 😂😂

[@trroop17forever]

I've tended to gravitate towards team guys, I don't know why. Warrior spirit? I never served. First Seal I hung out with was Nam era, 3 tours. Gave me my first diving lesson. Second was a good friend, showed me his MP5 and shared some gruesome stories. There were others, all top shelf people. An honor to train and shoot with them. I could listen to you guys all day. I can't express my gratitude for what you guys do, your commitment, and discipline. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

[@JM-ip7hf]

The excitement in their faces when they are comparing Iraq to Vietnam is priceless. That's when you know you are made to fight wars. Great stuff.

[@pewlife6333]

My son started The Jits after reading Warrior kid. Thank you Jocko for all you do !

[@Maitreya0208]

Let's get after it, yall.

[@Start0ver]

stfu

[@vsev9262]

Start0ver fucken rude. just start over.

[@Maitreya0208]

You should get after it.

[@jakebailey9884]

Let’s get it boys

[@stonem83]

Echo is jacked!

[@mihovilmikulec]

Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs !!!

[@BostonsF1nest]

I hope he has Leif on again soon to talk more about what they did in Iraq... I love hearing these stories

[@smithnwesson990]

Marines don't get enough credit. To a man they are all bad ass warriors. Spartans. Respect.

[@kevinzhang3313]

Are you joking? They get a ton of credit, all that they can, well deserved.

[@thecraftaddict2003]

For a lot of Highschool kids, Junior and Senior year is the best year for reading. We read Things They Carried, it was great!

[@eihdk]

Love these guys. Love the respect they show to the Marines and Army guys they served with. Love that they love the Carl Gustav gun. As a former Carl G gunner and infantry man who was deployed to Iraq, this really takes me back.

[@austin2466]

Batman is back

[@Cellardoor187]

CANCELL THE OPPPP!! - Leif babin

[@Alexander507]

TJ Dillashaws real dad

[@Electronicsflippa]

Hahaha legit batman #getsome

[@T0MBRA1D3RR]

Indeed he is! I just scrolled down to comment that verbatim... you beat me to it, man.

[@raimundosilva4382]

Não eu tô voltando os vídeos para as pessoas ver o que eu tava fazendo de bom e o que estava mostrando de bom que são talentos deles isso que eles me deram de talento de respeito de futuro e eu mostrei o talento deles enquanto eles me dava o respeito e o espaço para ouvir a música deles e mostrar o talento dele só encontra a Lara me criticava encontra a Lara me condenava e outros essa garota me defende a testemunha minha era testemunha minha

[@watch3r1]

"I was really impressed... with the fact that I've trained you so well." Lmao. Gold.

[@austencrowder2577]

The "If he's gunna die" part about the water was gold! had me rollin

[@boerbeun]

"I carry MY water" Oh man. Cracked me up 🤣

[@Wes02]

Jocko reading children's bedtime stories would rival and/or beat Samuel L Jackson!

[@Ragin1njun]

What about Major Payne

[@boerbeun]

What

[@skmack937]

In addition to the Echo Escalation - the way Jocko has to adjust his voice/posture to say Back In The Day - thank you. Makes me smile every time.

[@Big-Daddy-96]

Watching this podcast makes me miss all my Army buddies. I need to call some of them to catch up. We used to sit for hours and have conversations just like this. That’s brotherhood.

[@samuelnewland8571]

Echo doesn't talk much. I would like to hear more from him. Podcast is amazing keep up the great work!!

[@PermanentHigh]

Echo isn't military. You can't expect him to butt in and say nonsense he knows nothing about. Heck, he didn't even kbow what an Airburst round was. If they're talking fitness or BJJ, then yeah he can butt in. But other than that he knows it's better for him to shut up on the subject matter.

[@Styhn]

Good evening, KZbin.

[@appiebjk]

Styhn guht evening

[@EvaGreenFanPennyDreadful]

GUHT EVENING.

[@salvatoretessio4932]

KZbin: You are either liberal or you are CANCELLED!!!!

[@hounddog2952]

How to be prepared for the battle of life ? 1)Trust your heart . 2) Use your mind . 3) Double tap a terrorist . Ooh Rah

[@HighTreason007]

Rah

[@teshomacalkins3257]

Check ✔

[@dionthomas5418]

I agree with you on how to be prepared for the battle of life

[@tnjrcfl1]

the things they carried, great book.

[@bballstarcrazy8]

Nick Irving would be an awesome guest on this podcast. Former Army Ranger that wrote "The Reaper". Badass guy and awesome book.

[@JR-ju3kj]

Nick Irving is one of the guests I would love to see on the podcast. I don`t necessarily agree with all of his political views or everything that he says but that`s okay because he has the right to say whatever he wants and he has more than earned the right to say whatever he wants and I still think he`s a Bad-Ass. Jack Murphy, another former Army Ranger( who served with Irving, I believe), would be great, too. I would love to see Jocko have on guests like Nate Fick- a former recon Marine who wrote the book ''One Bullet Away''( it`s an amazing book, I`ve read it three times) and who was the basis for one of the characters on the HBO TV series Generation Kill based on the book of the same name by Evan Wright, Wes Moore( a former Army Captain who wrote ''The Other Wes Moore and The Work'' and he hosts the show ''Coming Home'' , Randy Couture- the retired MMA Fighter who is also a veteran, Rudy Reyes another former Recon Marine who served with Nate Fick and who is such a character he played himself on Generation Kill, Jim West a Vietnam-era former Green Beret, Mark Divine a former Navy SEAL,Paul Rieckhoff who is former Army and who is head of the Iraq And Afghanistan Veterans Of America( IAVA) and he wrote the book, Chasing Ghosts, Maura Sullivan a former Marine officer( it would be cool to see Jocko have on a female veteran, I don`t think I`ve ever seen a female veteran on the podcast) and Rye Barcott a former Marine who wrote the book, ''It Happened On The Way To War''. The actor and comedian Rob Riggle would make for an entertaining guest( he served in the Marine Corps for 23 years).

[@bobojangles22]

loved that book and im lovin these podcasts Jock see if you can get a brittish speacial forces operator on one day or maybe an aussie love to see similarities between countries operators

[@kellyfj]

Yeah would love some stories from the SAS - frankly would love some stories from our own Marines in Fallujah and elsewhere.

[@truebornsonofliberty554]

Omg- I suggested the things they carried last week. Amazing, cerebral literature. Thank you.

[@Compton2952]

Thank you Mr. Jocko. Mr. Echo Charles. Mr. Babin. This is great stuff right here. Enter The Magical Muster, sounds like a great book. Hint hint ; ) God Speed

[@andy25135301]

I know this is an old one but what a great episode. Brought back so many memories I'd forgotten about from Op Telic 6 & 7 (2005 & 2006), British Army. I remember those foot patrols lugging round ECM on top of the rest of the gear. Killer in the midday sun. Forgot about the moon dust which was like 30% dryed up excrement from the open sewers, used to breath so much of that stuff in. Guys constantly going down with D&V. Remember diving into those sewers a few times as there was no other cover around me when coming under contact. We were always jealous of some of the vehicles you had. When I was there we had the 'Snatch' landrovers reperposed from Northern Ireland. They couldn't deal with the heat so 40% of the time we had to tow one back in. So funny you guys talking about that smell. I Always remember getting off the plane when we landed back in the UK post tour. You dont realise how used to it you got until that fresh air hits when you exit the plane. I forgot about having to wear the ballistic glasses. We got issued clear, yellow, dark interchangeable ones that always got scratched after a few patrols so you couldn't see sh#t. Ahhh so many more memories flooding back. Almost feels now like it was a different life and it wasn't me. Wish I'd found this podcast sooner. I'm only up to 65!

[@jamesrelinski8853]

JOCKO FOR PRESIDENT!!!

[@thomasmacgruber6701]

I work overnights and I always feel the temp drop 5-10 degrees right before sunrise, like the sunlight coming is sucking the cold air to it. 100% real feeling.

[@samnilsson1553]

Read this book for English Class a few years ago, cool thing to see it on this podcast

[@Ottuln]

47:00 Jocko is very correct on this. Airburst rounds have been widely used since before the Napoleonic Wars.

[@ricardobarrera1155]

Gates of Fire read. I've read it many times.. Excellent read.

[@0num4]

Last-moment advice from Leif and Echo: Priceless.

[@JoeCiliberto]

Jocko, consider reading The Good War: An Oral History of World War II by Studs Terkel, to all of us and get Lief to read American Dreams: Lost and Found by Studs Terkel. always a great show, thank you

[@lukasbekr]

srs Jocko take up a side gig as war memoir audiobook narrator, please!

[@dennissaunders5247]

Really enjoy the Jacko pod cast. GREAT military discussions and history. Can listen for hours. Keep up the great work.

[@douglashenry8303]

Ohh Shitchea! read this book.. BACK IN THE DAYYYY! Best required reading for a 10th grade high schooler

[@TheOutlawMan]

Read this book the summer before I joined the Marines. Game changer

[@kellyfj]

This was the best advertising for the muster (the "magical muster"!) just hearing you guys talk about it made me want to go

[@jaywolfdesigns]

This stuff is so real, love this channel

[@srv8568]

just watched you with Joe Rogan, and now I've found your podcast. I'm loving it. Will subscribe and tuned in. This is Excellent stuff.

[@sinwithagrin4243]

Most people: This sucks! Jocko: i like the way this sucks

[@0num4]

That fucking...Iraqi...moon dust. Literally got everywhere, into everything, all of your pockets, into your socks. After a year in Tikrit, I even found some inside my *sealed drive*. Ah, memories.

[@bradeevans]

I've listened to 2:06:37-2:09:30 almost every day since this was posted. I can't stop laughing. Preordered 3 copies.

[@boerbeun]

"You know how well he knows his timestables?.... He doesnt" "....dang...."

[@themysticfedora]

So funny hahaha

[@mattthompson9480]

Thank you Jocko, my spouse is LEO. Thank you for the kind words of gratitude. And to all LEO and MILITARY, may the Lords protection embrace you in harms way.

[@bradydooley7284]

This is great! Would love to see one with Goggins!

[@BostonsF1nest]

He’s never gonna be on

[@elrud5964]

Goggins is a psychopath.

[@derekrohan9619]

I was in Ramadi with you guys.. good times.. was at camp Ramadi and camp coriggedor . Cop falcon and all that good stuff..

[@cclayne995]

It would be cool to see Mike Ritland on the show. Maybe discuss how working dogs have become an asset to our military/police forces.

[@kevinh9110]

Leif must come on at least twice a year.

[@MrAdam-fo6uc]

37:10 “yea you did. How’s that work out for you?” I’ll still be laughing tomorrow

[@winningwithmoney4417]

Ya Leif is back!!!:)

[@Nalfain1973]

good evening Sirs, thanks for sharing your wisdom!

[@carloduran2961]

Football two-a-days in that California desert heat. Our linemen were too trim and fit to push the Northern California boys. lol

[@nickswenson4845]

@1:50:08 echo made me laugh so fuckin hard with the hard cut to his face as he said "boom"😂😂😂

[@Ben-lo7cy]

Echo Charles is right about air burst rounds. They’re awesome, I think either discovery or military channel did a show about them

[@andersonsimmons2398]

OMG! I read that book years ago!

[@alex_frijolero]

hell yeah finally got Leif back on

[@alcazar777]

Jocko Podcast 65 : Pitch Black edition (Vin Diesel is hiding somewhere in the room)

[@kaos.n.anarky6599]

"Back to the book!"

[@ninjak79]

Thank you all.

[@michiganveteran3300]

Its hot in Iraq but I remember having to put my mopp boots on over my matterhorn winters while saw gunning in a homemade steel mad max tcup gunners nest in the bed of our 5ton while on the way up to Mosul...my gunner almost got frost bite on his feet one night...it can get pretty frosty in the open desert midnight air

[@alanmtz8054]

Can jocko just read and discuss every war novel ever written lol? Would kill to hear his thoughts on Johnny Got His Gun and All Quiet on the Western Front, etc Especially since he was an English major and obviously loves his books

[@theblackone89]

good evening. back to the book

[@dionthomas5418]

I love Jocko Wilink way of reading novels about warriors and patriots who defended each other and America against Evil killing machines born to be the best defending American dream and way of life

[@YaMammaWarnedYa]

I'd love to hear a show with the wife's of some of y'all. I wanna know what it's like for them when yall are gone. PLUS I'm trying to see the qualifications SEALs look for in a woman, cause I want one!!♡🤣🤣 But Truly,to everyone who served that sees this. Thank You for your Service. Your truly My Heros

[@maddyndaddyjeans2892]

great podcast.

[@kevinlecavalier9720]

Cant wait for the Jocko Podcast covering "extreme ownership" with Leif Babin and Echo

[@bs431980]

Good lord is Echo competing in the Mr Olympia this year?? He's swole as a mother

[@AnyTwoDrew]

The things we carried was one of the few books we were forced to read in high school that was good.

[@RPatersonJr]

Jocko the type of guy to make reading Cat in the Hat sound badass. He could make some $$ off making some books on tape.

[@austinunterbrink9805]

Their leadership lessons have an amazing value

[@justin_gosselin]

Is Leif Corey Taylor's big brother?

[@brianarledge736]

Justin Gosselin , I never would think to put the two together, but since you mentioned it I could totally see the resemblance and the very close voice tone

[@johnnym4400]

"The Magical Muster" I fuckin Love you guys... I envy Jocko and Leif!!! 🇺🇲💪🏽🇺🇲💪🏽🇺🇲

[@chopperhead2012]

If there was a way to have you read the entirety of that book back when I needed to do so in high school, I would have actually done the work I needed to do that required I read it.

[@oohJakez]

Wish there was a British version of this

[@truebornsonofliberty554]

Why didn't this show up in my feed? I've been subbed for 8 months and this is the first time it's not there. Anyone else?

[@ah64Dcoming4U]

I wish my wife would look at me the same way Leif looks at Jocko

[@elplateado0018]

Yuup, this episode was magical .

[@ZuZu_Petals]

Yo Jocko I want to support your podcast!

[@andrewmoran627]

Good gosh they are the same person!! Haha 2 unreal human beings. Thank you both

[@johnweninger1737]

Good Evening.

[@rossxxx]

28:09 ;) I see what you did there. (please make a shirt out of this quote.)

[@otisdriftwood6931]

I love this podcast I think you and your buddies are amazing people God bless you God bless the United States God bless the military you keep doing your thing

[@zanekidd4394]

Man....how they carry water in bottles? The military should look into incorporating the body armor with a camelback style system. Water must have some factor on the armor as well in a good way, like if you put it underneath the armor maybe the compression when the projectile initial strikes would make the hard armor more effective before it absorbs and disperses some of that energy. Then for the mass amount of water needed you could incorporate a system where like you have an upper body suit with sleeves and all that hold water as well that can be accessed from the armor reservoir/hose right. And that water must have a cooling factor as well in the desert? Anyone???

[@Johndoe-gf7ks]

That was 06

[@zanekidd4394]

John doe what about now? I know they use camelbacks but that’s not gonna give you gallons you might need for potentially 72 hours of mission

[@davidbregent393]

Hey Jocko. I got a question: How do you stay focused in situations, where people are yelling at you, whether it is in the military or in life.

[@boerbeun]

Bootcamp

[@mikedeluca3378]

Good evening

[@livinthedreamohyeah4268]

Wow! Wait! Good Evening Echo Charles?

[@jthtumbleweed5012]

Leif’s voice is like if Jon Bernthal ate Corey Taylor and consumed all the power.

[@hstrangemusic]

This got me laughing omfg

[@daigen16]

please bring him on for a 4th!

[@maxdavies5776]

BMX wheel trolley for ammo & packs. Etc.

[@Noonan37]

Magical

[@0num4]

Holy crap...Leif really was decked out for WW3! GET AFTER IT!

[@shaunmarrinan]

Double gravitational effect :D #science #magical

[@Zyrexism]

I think it’d be cool to get Jeff Nichols or Stew Smith on the show

[@pigactor]

Come socialize in the Echo Chamber. 1:46:20

[@thelolmaster1997]

1:38:53 Leif's magical moment

[@nicolasvillamil7523]

Leif looks/sounds like a hardened, nail-eating version of Corey Taylor lol

[@gideonevans9717]

I had heat exhaustion once. I was out for 2 hrs.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

When are the Echo Charles action figures coming out?