Jocko Podcast 360: With Navy Fighter Pilot Tom Kopel

[@neilsullivan7546]

So glad Mr Kopel transferred from the Air Force. He really nailed the difference between the Air Force and Navy (philosophically) from the perspective of a fellow Naval aviator. What a voice! Thanks for taking me back for a 3 hour visit to my 20’s and 30’s. I was a pilot in the Navy’s last F-4 squadron (VF-154) Miramar, the First Fleet F/A-18 squadron (VFA 132) and an operational test pilot in VX-4, flying F-4’s, F-14A and APlus, and was the F/A-18 Tactics Model manager. What a great life and adventure for a young man, and Mr Koppel …. thank you for your story. David, We might even know each other. Thanks Jocko for bringing us this story and your strong and very true paradigms and lessons learned from our fellow warriors

[@joshhanlon1814]

@ Neil Sullivan, when were you in?

[@andrewtaylor3797]

All these old warriors Jocko gets on the podcast are just amazing people.

[@ninjanunch27]

Shawn Ryan's show is another KZbin channel you should check out if you haven't already. Between Jockos and Shawn's shows best 2 shows period.

[@Kunfucious577]

@@ninjanunch27it’s the respect that the U.S. government should be giving these men. I hate what our government has become.

[@ninjanunch27]

@@Kunfucious577 absolutely

[@satawa7059]

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[@johncalia8598]

I love this guy I don't mind one bit about him wondering off on tangents they where all very entertaining and he has so much great knowledge and wisdom and a very awesome way in how he shares his thoughts that it keeps you engaged the hole time great guest Jocko great work as always Sir. Thank you!!🙂👍💯

[@williamduggins2172]

Could listen to this man talk all day.

[@kimberleyx6929]

Sir, Thank you for your service and sacrifice Sir. Guy's like you are Irreplaceable and the Bravery wish we had more of you in today's military.

[@johnmchugh8049]

He reminds me of those awesome professors in college that you would hang out with after class for hours and visit even ten years later to hear stories

[@jdub9288]

This guys voice makes you keep listening even when you aren't sure what he's talking about. Great podcast

[@KathrynJohnston-s9t]

This is pure Uncle Tom, and we will always have his stories this way. Thank you. Believe it or not, despite the length, you still missed some of his prime stories, like the multiple times he fell off the roof, the horse in the kitchen, the school window.... And I got to learn more about him and our family this way. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So proud.

[@KathrynJohnston-s9t]

This is so wonderful. I can't thank you enough.

[@gennnyko6340]

Tom’s daughter here. Are you a cousin? Don’t know what the school window thing is. There wasn’t a horse in the kitchen, it was trapped in the frozen pond and he freed it with an axe to the ice. Yes he slipped on some wet leaves on the roof in a storm a few years ago, broke his pelvis and tried to walk it off. He almost died. It wasn’t funny.

[@paulpaul4681]

This dudes voice is amazing. Salute to you Sir

[@1958fury]

😅u 1:55:04 ⁰

[@creaturesofqueens]

Queens represent! Name dropping tons of spots the first hour. Imagine letting a 4 year old hang out along Jamaica Ave alone. Must’ve been easier days back then. What a class act!

[@cdrtej]

No f-ing way

[@j-wil1964]

Awesome story! We need more of these old vets telling their stories. We’re losing them every single day.

[@boggy8557]

What a fantastic interview! Thank you so much.

[@AprilJM]

👏 👏 Thank you both for ur service. Thank u Jocko for having a platform for these older warriors to tell us their amazing stories

[@Discipline_equals_freedom]

This gentleman is older then Biden, are you kidding me. Completely in control of all his facilities. Great story teller.

[@crocodilegrundee4514]

My Dad is a Korean War vet, and he’s 91. He can barely walk now, and he is far more in control of his mental faculties than Biden is. That’s a little worrisome.

[@privatecitizen4001]

Sounds like hate speech. Time to red flag law some vets lol. Your govt loves you.

[@kimberleyx6929]

FACTS....

[@darrenhartigan3033]

Yes and I'm sure he'd control another f4 tomorrow if he was able

[@Cuffsmaster]

@@crocodilegrundee4514 "control .. mental facilities ... than Biden" or Trump

[@RobertSantos-rw8dy]

The old breed is certainly insightful and entertaining with how they approached the challenges they faced... Enjoyed this interview...

[@firehorse_44alpha-omega]

A pleasure Mr. Kopel, Hats off sir ! Thank you Dave and Jocko ! Totally epic top tier learning here. Cheers

[@jeffkjenaas7098]

This guy is speaking my language. Fly Navy!

[@r.maxward3226]

I absolutely love listening to these badass old warriors. They are so smart and interesting. They are living National Treasures. Thanks Jocko for documenting their stories.

[@tuckerallen3621]

Half way in and this guy is great. So real

[@stuh1839]

I am in Corpus Christi right now. Legendary place for Naval Aviation.

[@stevendeakins6668]

What a great podcast, he was really interesting to listen too, pretty funny guy as well!!

[@troyspurling1910]

Great podcast!! Thoroughly enjoyed Tom. Great American story. Thanks Jocko for what you do!

[@AKActionMedia]

Thank you for your service

[@nicholascetrangolo8400]

this guy is absolutely awesome

[@LammersQuarter]

Awesome material. And, there's always a rug involved in cool stories...

[@johnmchugh8049]

Amazing episode !

[@bryanluntz1603]

Great Podcast Jocko/Dave A great gentleman Mr Kopel is Amazing stories and history Thank You Tom The best defense is A good offense🇺🇸

[@christopherpalios6657]

Thank you for your service Mr Kopel 🫡 great podcast 👍🤙

[@LaserSkaterable]

Wish this dude could narrate my life

[@ravvu]

What a voice too!

[@littleshopofsawdust1157]

Jocko, thank you for being so kind and graceful when he'd forget where he was in the conversation and you'd gently remind him. Incredibly classy and compassionate.

[@gennnyko6340]

Little Shop of Sawdust, my father is not some doddering geriatric and doesn’t need your patronizing and frankly offensive hand-patting. You’d have a hard-time keeping up with him in conversation. Jocko’s a great interviewer, full stop, and what you characterize as pity on his part was simply astute direction of the dialogue. Delete your comment or apologize.

[@littleshopofsawdust1157]

@@gennnyko6340 you need to check your attitude. No one made any assertion that he was. Go back and listen again to how often he would ask, what was the question? Where were we? Truth be told, I suffered brain damage and I very nearly died 15 years ago. This gentleman's comments struck a chord with me because I have those moments myself and I'm self conscious about it. I was complementing Jocko on his grace so as to not cause any stress or discomfort. People aren't always so tolerant or kind. Perhaps you could take a lesson. I think this gentleman was a delight to listen to. Frankly, it's one of my favorite shows that Jocko has done. I've always wanted to fly and that dream will have to remain a dream for me. But he painted such wonderful pictures with his words that I was truly entranced. If you're looking for a fight, look elsewhere. If you want to come off sounding like some crusading badass, go elsewhere. When your maturity level increases, you may learn that sometimes people's words have a different connotation than the ones that you assign to them. I'm not apologizing to anyone because my words carried no ill intent. Furthermore, please give this wonderful gentleman my best wishes and thank him for appearing on the show. Now I have to figure out how to get my hands on some of that bread. It sounds fantastic. Best wishes to you.

[@gennnyko6340]

I think a good alternate title for this podcast is “Three Supermen walk into a bar…”

[@dkmackie]

Amazing chat, amazing voice too, should do voice over 👍 cheers jocko, nice one

[@zacharymccoy2595]

This is completely biased but can we get some more episodes with Marines. Thank you Jocko, anther great episode with another great example to emulate.

[@Tacit_Tern]

*Jocko Willink is the Reluctant Leader we need.* .....We know you've done enough, but your Nation needs you. 🇺🇸 *2024* 🦅

[@Cuffsmaster]

why destroy his life and put in a den of fools?

[@Tacit_Tern]

@@Cuffsmaster All it takes for evil to thrive, is for good people to stand by and do nothing. Both parties don't like veterans in office, because they're the least partisan and put the constitution and our own Nation's interests first.

[@restfulcube-notyet]

that voice is golden

[@area51junkyard]

His voice is ASMR QUALITY

[@kevinzhang6623]

He is a fighter pilot. A Naval aviator. It's not what he is. It's who he is.

[@legionarulsquad6676]

Finally I'm first. :) Respect from Romania 🇷🇴

[@joonbu6]

What an amazing hero...

[@GC-jm8qx]

Great freakin guest

[@eyesthatwatch69]

This chap is a true gentleman, wonderful voice

[@Chertoff88]

This gentleman own the Oley Bakery, 244 Dryville Rd, Fleetwood, PA. Please visit his buissness and give back to him for his courageous service.

[@Jschnatter]

This man is the Oley Baker

[@christy9789]

He sounds amazing and he’s 84 sharp guy

[@gennnyko6340]

just turned 83

[@cdrtej]

2:50:15 laughed out loud like a kid at the tabke listening to the uncles talk

[@Joncmorales]

They way he describes the 50’s and 60’s just seems like a different America.

[@Cuffsmaster]

Yes it was far different

[@mkne2451]

My coworkers dont look to me to lead here and there but I do. Same as my superior. Simple reason is I'm the nice and collected guy. I'm not big at yelling to make a point. Explaining to the mechanic about how his laziness made my day worse is what gets the problem fixed. And when the problem does gets solved, im the first to tell the mechanic thank you. Humility goes a long way.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Happy! Too, see you. Sir!

[@RikodiusRex]

Thank you for your service. Do one about what it was like the day you got your flippers and what it felt like to be turned back into a person. Do you miss your flippers?

[@thaddeusmontoya8532]

He should read bed time stories, has a voice like a brick chimney hearth 😊

[@erica9563]

They don't make 'em like that anymore

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Jockowillink, look below, Sir. Keep, Navy Seals Safe. Courage, Calcium!

[@HomeshighlandPark]

All button. Goooood

[@gennnyko6340]

I try to live my life by the All button!!

[@HomeshighlandPark]

@@gennnyko6340 The guest on here never got shot down. So it must be a great concept to apply in life as well. I’m relationships and business. Do things all the way as best as we can the first time.

[@gennnyko6340]

@@HomeshighlandPark totally agree!! and this guy is my dad so I use a lot of his tactical philosophies in my life!

[@HomeshighlandPark]

@@gennnyko6340 so kool. Enjoyed the whole episode. My dad was in the Nam. He used to dump all my drawers on the ground and wake me up 5 am, and the yelling etc. Greek veteran. Good times.

[@gennnyko6340]

@@HomeshighlandPark Love it… thank you so much for your kind words about my dad…and I suspect we have similar upbringings!

[@bailey9208]

Man , I think it all the missed opportunities I’ve had in the past sitting or in the same room as a lot of world war 2 vets.

[@gennnyko6340]

He’s a Vietnam Vet 😊

[@nickgaillard9281]

Salute

[@williammoore5101]

Josh Bridges on the next pod would be awesome

[@Xanthrochroid]

1:38.29 ‘Nicht wahr?’ means Not true?

[@gatormcklusky5850]

Coming of age in the late 1970s my friends and i used to hitchhike a lot, One late summer/early fall we hitched to Texas from Michigan then shot across to California, Really enjoyed those day's, It was a different time with different outlooks on life, If my mind services me right i believe hitchhiking died out sometime in the 80s. Just some useless information.

[@Joncmorales]

I’m 28 years old. But that sounds like a great time to grow up as a kid.

[@johnnyringo7928]

This man has a more impressive voice than Jocko. Say it with ya chest, Jocko. 🤘

[@barbzamecnik5698]

#I rather, listen to jocko podcasts than watch Superbowl

[@Invi-]

He sounds like Heisenberg

[@TheDizzack]

That's a man.

[@JamesCraigHeath007]

Jocko growing his hair out, must be getting cold out California way

[@rickieowens4243]

Can you look into my mcss partner ask him if he still has the sheiks SUV, 😡 and if the gate gaurd got his wedge lock back,😁

[@chizzelfingers]

this guys got so much knowledge to transfer jocko cld just let him talk.his stories are awesome

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Manufacturer of Asbestos. Sir. Go Navy!

[@sasquatch6829]

I will also say that sogcast does not fill the role that jocko podcast fills… just sayin. No dislike on any front…. But it’s different. Don’t know why. And it’s NOT era …. The folks that do sogcast have good shit… need better audio and I would maybe suggest some form of parallel to current age or “why we are in the mess we’re in now?” Or something along those lines. Hmmm I’m sure I can state this better but this is close sir.

[@wildbill60]

👍💯🇺🇲

[@Xanthrochroid]

Chappie James and Colonel Olds a.k.a. Black Man and Robin

[@sasquatch6829]

Yo- please get the SOG audio on point here…. I mean the folks and story are cool… but the audio is* rather terrible… hollow… not well balanced… Pretty sure that Echo knows what needs to be done… Fantastic storyline….. impossible to listen to audibly. Correction: are to is.*

[@jamajnasoares5702]

" I'M FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS!" Such a GOOD sentence. 🤓

[@herbwhite7384]

Where's Echo? I miss him.

[@jettsetter7]

Would love to talk to this guy. My grandfather was an F4 driver in Nam too. KIA in Laos 03/21/1968 whilst bombing trucks. He and Lt. Hesford are still considered MIA. But we know they crashed with the jet.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

I hated School, too. Sir. Always, put in front of Blackboard, to prove what I learned. Manville Corporation, had me , writing Equations. Sir.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Thank you. Sir.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Get all the Calcium you can. Sir. Chest pains. Proven.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Have the Seals, Get Calcium . Sir's. Chest pains.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

👋 Family! I am here. Barbara 🥰

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Please, get our Astronaut's back. Navy Seal, Men.

[@BabyBazuki]

Team god 👇

[@rickieowens4243]

Ok, 😎,cool

[@anaMoc1038]

(THE ART OF SHADOW BOXING) - DW master of shadow boxing One ponders in two steps over a great index, while shadow boxing is a 4 step pattern containing 1 convex step, and 1 concave step To defeat darkness one must dream. To try and defeat ones shadow, is to try and fall asleep. The shadow boxer keeps one edge of his sword sharper. This allows the art of shadow boxing to split hairs. Throughout the universe on a grand scale, wherever there is more light, there is more gravity. To defeat darkness, think like the sun, seeing the world for the first time each morning over millions of years. - Over the Mountains -" There is a stone on top of the mountain that shapes the horizon where the feathered eagle struggles to fly this stone simply lies consistent in the heights." or - Over the Plains - " Put your mind out to pasture, let your thoughts graze on muse, drink from the spring of conception as the conscious herd drifts through stimulating hues." Shadowboxing is the only martial art designed to defeat darkness. To defeat ones shadow in battle, under the Axis of the eclipse, and in the exact moment that the shadow boxer becomes the driving force within nature, fighting the darkness, and achieving master...This act is one step from God, and one step from suicide, one step from total enlightenment that can only be obtained in death. A master of shadow boxing finds his death, like he finds his eclipse...ready. He is free to move towards, or let it come. There is no martial art more natural than shadowboxing. Where in Kung Fu a man might transform to monkey, crane, or tiger. In shadowboxing even a cat or dog will fight with it's shadow. Now if you give a tiger a sword and tell it to fight a housecat, the housecat will win. Of all the martial artists, a master of shadow boxing defeats his opponent, while sustaining the least amount of damage. Shadowboxing is the root of martial arts. Is it wise to shadow box before, after, or during a fight? To a boxer the answer is both, too the shadow boxer all 4, is the answer. -Growth in Shadow Boxing- The shadow boxers physical prime is as steadfast as his will. If one ounce of his being tries to inflict damage by physical superiority, speed, strength, pressure, pace, all the flaws of a human opponent, their actions become ripples of chaos. The shadow boxer must conduct battle, stay diligent, with a clear mind. He must swim to his destination, not flail harder and drown. At peace while at war. Watching, waiting, learning, but most importantly improving, staying focused against any "temptation" that would cause them to branch away from the root. This causes growth. A slow improvement against the impossible. " It is impossible to get better at something that is impossible. This is called growth. And if the shadow boxer were not boxing, and to remain dormant, they would not be a shadow boxer, and be a shadow watcher. However, just as in any martial art, a shadow boxer will only grow, and develop as hard as they work. The shadow boxer can become as a God in nature. Who in the moment of Axis of the eclipse, transforms into the driving force fighting darkness on Earth, and executes his own will, to move Heaven, and Earth to victory! Or can buy a plane ticket to an eclipse, and throw a few punches. Both can defeat their shadows in battle. The choice is yours! The shadow boxers physical prime is as steadfast as his will to be victorious. If all martial artists devoted themselves to shadow boxing. There would be great duels, as students wishing to retain the title of master, gathered at the Axis of the eclipse, fighting their shadows simultaneously. The boxer goes into a shadow boxing match accepting defeat, he trains to accept defeat. It is impossible to get better at something, that is impossible? (Natural Selection and Light inn Nature) Just as the art of shadow boxing is illuminated by these writings, the solar system the sun, and the universe throughout by the solar systems, and in return will write our stories in the stars...the art of shadow boxing is to fight darkness, and natural selection is not confined to Earth. - (Exercise the power of Destination) by eliminating distraction - SPEED DEFEATS STRENGTH, TIMING DEFEATS SPEED, and DESTINATION DEFEATS TIMING The shadow boxer must exercise the power of destination to defeat their opponents timing. One is allowed to do this by focusing on defeating darkness, eliminating all the distractions of outside influence. "There is a stone on top of the mountain that shapes the horizon where the feathered eagle struggles to fly this stone simply lies consistent in the heights." " Along the path of urgency are those waist deep in destiny beyond the muck and mire where men burn their desires a patient stone resides." " The pebble in your boot is greater than the mountains in your way." If God were to endow one immediately with total understanding and enlightenment, you would feel no different....Just a the sun creeps across the eclipse, and years. You would experience the world anew. The difference would be a second encounter, with the first circumstance. The world would not have changed, but the shadow boxer. Once a man accepts death, often he has put a hold on how much it can be lived. Shadow Boxing is a free solo ascent, where one can fall from 50 feet, or 500 feet -DW Master of art of Shadowboxing

[@tomle3]

C Cash

[@John-tx5or]

Read @ 4? U Remember? Lol. How about 0.1? Lol. AkA 0.12? Lol.

[@gennnyko6340]

He could read at 4. I know because I could read at 4 too - and Tom is my father. I remember him telling me to read my bedtime stories to him whenever I asked him to read them to me. It was very irritating at the time but now I appreciate that he pushed me to my potential ❤

[@AlS-kz1yy]

Does anybody think this is a good podcast episode? I slept half way through

[@gennnyko6340]

Tom is an understated guy and reluctant to a fault be seen as bragging, plus factor in the newness of being on the national stage as the guest of someone as impressive and cool as Jocko. Tom has six Air Medals and the Navy Commendation Medal with the Combat “V” for valor, all earned in combat, with harrowing details,and approximately 200 carrier landings, many at night, in his squadron VF-142 Ghostriders (it’s funny how the writers of the first Top Gun movie used the coolest squadron name they could find for that famous “negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full” line. ) He was in the first class of Top Gun and helped write the manual that is used today. He also has a lot of dead friends from that war. He won’t brag, but I’m his daughter and so I’ll shamelessly and unapologetically brag about him. Yes, he was reserved, but Jocko and Dave are the best and did an incredible job of drawing him out. Tom is also an amazing writer with perfect recall and I am drawing his memoirs out of him one email at a time. If you knew him, you would like him, and if you heard his experiences firsthand, and more of them, in detail and breadth that can only fit into a lifetime of knowing him and you would be blown away.

[@SavageHenry0311]

Don't worry about that guy. Some people dabble in these military podcasts to be titillated. They are like lookie-loos at a car accident, or some parasitic gut bacteria. When they don't got their little voyeuristic dopamine hits, precisely the way they desire, they whine. That's not who your dad, Dave and Jocko are for. There are millions of us watching and listening for different, better reasons. I very much appreciate your father's time. I suspect, in his heart, he's a teacher. I learned several things while listening to him, and gained valuable perspective. Semper Fi, SH

[@AlS-kz1yy]

@@SavageHenry0311 I was asking because I don't want to waste my time. It seems his memory is loosing as he asks the question: what was the question almost 3 times in the first 30 minutes I listened to. I Just wanted to see if it gets better. I wish this man was able to speak in a podcast while his memory was better, but it is good to share his story before he is dead.

[@AlS-kz1yy]

@@gennnyko6340 Thanks for the clarification. Good idea on the memoir!

[@Cuffsmaster]

@@AlS-kz1yy What were you asking ? - I forget Actually I enjoyed it and his prospective as a Vietnam era aviator. You can't find a young man to tell that story. It is just a fact of time. He sounded more like an absent minded professor and it is not like he could not remember anything. He remembered it all.. I am sure even today we'd have a problem keeping up with him mentally even with his stumbling. My suggestion is you don't waste your time as you have already decided that you will be disgusted with an old man taking his time to tell a story as he rambles here in there telling side stories as he goes. Maybe you can watch a shorter youtube video somewhere on a different subject. I am sure you can find a young many telling a story somewhere..

[@barbzamecnik5698]

Putin, is awesome to follow. Learning Leader 's.

[@barbzamecnik5698]

You, learn.

[@angelicannihilator]

2:11:26 What was he saying about the human eye?

[@stephenwilson9872]

I am not the same as I am bound to Be My decisions are not my own

[@stephenwilson9872]

Being me and doing what is for me Is a rip in my awareness

[@adamgardener8624]

The cradle rocks above an abyss, and common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness. - Vladimir Nabokov

[@jettsetter7]

My grandfather was killed at a 30 degree dive bomb at night. In the Air Force as well.

[@John-tx5or]

Go back.@ Night forComputers not Steal them... Scales too! Smh. 🥳 📯.

[@John-tx5or]

AF Said NAH....vi was TOO AF. Lol.

[@John-tx5or]

OH! I Played BARITONE, too! Took Home the TUBA 1 Summer too. - Bari "PON Tempti Tony. TRU. ps All Sports, All Horns too. AFTA - AFTA Shcool.