Overcoming Frustations When Starting Jiu Jitsu - Jocko Willink

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Excerpt from JOCKOPODCAST 33

[@seanhavern2384]

I started jiu jitsu this year at 27. I had gone to the doctor and he told me in a very blunt way that I was fat. The next week I joined a gym and now I train jiu jitsu and Muay Thai 5-6 times a week for the past 5 months. It was the best decision I have made in a long while and Jocko is one of the reasons I made it. Thank you. Edit 12/2021: For those interested, I earned my blue belt in BJJ this month and I am down 30 pounds from when I started BJJ 2 years ago. COVID interrupted my training but I am still at it and love every day of training. Edit 2: 6/2023: I am still down in weight from when I began, I am a blue belt in BJJ, and continue to train Muay Thai. My training has slowed due to a new job that requires a lot more hours. I love the new job and likely would not have gotten it without training BJJ. Not only did it prepare me physically and mentally, but it was also something I spoke about in interviews that likely helped me get hired. Edit 3: 8/2024: My BJJ journey has paused due to life changes and reluctance to go to a new gym after having such a great gym. That said I have moved to lifting to maintain the foundation I built through BJJ and Muay Thai. Although my training has paused it wasn't a waste. I am healthier now than when I initially posted and I encourage anyone reading this to find a workout or activity that makes you happy and pursue it whenever you can. I'm in my 30s now and I know that everything I do now is an investment when I am 40, 50, 60, and older.

[@Arjun-eb1yc]

Good doctor.

[@seanhavern2384]

@@Arjun-eb1yc completely agree. it was the words i needed to hear. im down 20 pounds since that visit.

[@whitebeltforlife]

More power! I wish you the best in your journey. I don't care what belt you are or what your record is. I respect you showing up!

[@mendoza2489]

Im in the same boat my guy

[@robertbaratheon2193]

Sean Havern I just started doing both actually just finished my first week. When does the unbearable soreness stop? I can deal with soreness, but I can barely move and perform at my job. I’m very out of shape.

[@dylangous8403]

Jiu Jitsu is the most difficult thing I've ever done, and also the most rewarding. If you're struggling just keep going, you won't be sorry.

[@danfoster6757]

@@giacomolontra3707 a trumpet doesn't try to kill you though

[@johnnylow3295]

@@giacomolontra3707 having recently got into a royal college of music I agree with this 😂

[@Rawdiswar]

@@danfoster6757 That made me nearly spit out my coffee, thanks for the morning chuckle.

[@soulburst]

@@giacomolontra3707 my professor does both

[@Daniel-hi3qb]

Giacomo Lontra in my experience jiu jitsu has nothing to do with having a will to kill someone. In fact if you are doing it right in a self defense situation you should be able to disable an attacker without causing them any grave injury.

[@KSmith007]

2 classes in. Tapped 6 times, no frustration Just a sponge soaking it in. Check your ego at the door.

[@eliasndeleon]

exactly

[@deadbydanuwu5692]

That’s the right mindset

[@ts0088]

Only 6 times? Great.

[@nate87465]

Only 6 times in 2 classes? Not bad. I hope ur still training

[@jordant7475]

I'm 3 weeks in. Yesterday I tapped 4 times to just one guy within 6 minutes. That one class I probably tapped 8 times.

[@jpalmer9896]

The "Jiu Jitsu Nerd" hits different. I was always an athlete and it was so odd getting absolutely smashed by a 145lb gamer hahha

[@lukehobbs3177]

Truuuuuue

[@bookyphrenia1359]

As a 145 lbs gamer/nerd whos about to start jiu jitsu soon.. I’m excited lol

[@jpalmer9896]

@@bookyphrenia1359 You are going to get smashed for a while too my man!

[@bookyphrenia1359]

@@jpalmer9896 Hell yeah I need to feel something

[@angbandart]

Why call him a gamer? He's a fighter.

[@ingetout]

In order to avoid injury you have to check your ego at the door. As long as you don't try to muscle things and tap early you will be safe. Also paradoxically, the most dangerous guys in the gym are white belts and the safest are black belts. The best way to train is the militaryism of "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast".

[@kravjitssig7291]

I always say that white belts are much like baby copperhead snakes. The babies are the most dangerous, because they don't know how to control their venom and usually release it all at once. But, just remember, we were all there at one time, no matter how long ago it may have been, 23 years for me. Everybody has to start somewhere, then learn as they go.

[@dmtimko]

So true. As a 15 months old white belt, I just had a set back and fractured my ankle after another white belt tried to sweep me while I was passing his guard and my foot was stuck under him. I’m planning on going back but never again roll with another white belt.

[@preparedmindstrongspirit5724]

Hell yeah. Im recovering from three strained tendons in my left elbow from an arm-bar. Aggressive, STRONG white belt had me bent over so fast i couldn't tap fast enough. I lost over a month of weight training time to that. Ive got a few people i roll with and he isn't one of them.

[@ChanMan63]

Ya Ik my friend tries to go fast and ends up cutting me and kicking me

[@drg5987]

Had a spazzing brown belt break my nose. Needless to say, he had a bit of an ego and didn’t want to get tapped by a lower belt. I wasn’t happy about it, but wasn’t mad either. Injuries are bound to happen, we are practicing fighting

[@kevintemido]

I started at 15 and was about to be 16. I was in the adult class. Best decision I ever done in my life. I remember almost not joining because my dad wasn’t sure if he could afford it. I’m now 26 and recently got my black belt a few weeks ago.

[@loveyourselfandme1283]

Congratulations brother so young and you have a black belt I’m 40 now and I’m still at the beginning

[@kevintemido]

@@loveyourselfandme1283 thank you! I hope you stick with it 🙏

[@travv88]

based

[@sellingadvil9844]

​@@kevintemido did you ever feel like quitting when you began?

[@kevintemido]

@@sellingadvil9844 yes, many times

[@357849414]

Needle in a haystack but, As a one stripe white belt, I was being taught by a brown belt who outweighed me and rolled often, he obviously was never going full tilt because he would of steam rolled me, but he like switching north south alot and I put my leg up and caught his neck, saw his arm and stumbled upon a reverse triangle, tapped him, he was actually surprised I had the intuition to lock it up, to make sure I didn't get delusional, next round he smashed me in less than 10 seconds, that being said I loved losing as a white belt, every failures a lesson

[@quito85869]

Yeah I remember rolling with fat browns as a white. Probably the best work out I've gotten in life.

[@user-sx5kx3pq2i]

lmaooo the best part is "to make sure I didn't get delusional, next round he smashed me in less than 10 seconds"

[@rwtfallenjf25132]

My buddy is a brown and I completely agree. I only want to roll with people better than me so I can get better.

[@charliemvrphy]

I started today. My buddy, who’s a brown belt got me into his gym and I’m so stoked to have started!

[@mcstench8913]

@x yo i got this buddy....

[@jdf928]

It's one of the best things for depression. I love the fact that I am going. I drop off but I get back and I hope to keep going consistently

[@alantinoalantonio]

Really? Glad to hear that for people that struggle

[@cunn1n6ham]

Glad you found this outlet jedon...just remember to keep going and at least watch even when you’re injured...

[@MrFartinacan]

Same man. It’s a shame, I’d go more if those down days didn’t hit me as hard as they do. Just gotta jeep getting after it.

[@fabaov2584]

Agreed

[@jdf928]

@@MrFartinacan just like when your rolling and get tapped out. You get back up and keep going after it. I get crushed as well but no matter if it takes days. Always get back up. Depression is the ultimate mental black belt lol. Sometimes you can't do much but to tap out and keep surviving lol

[@Kenlalor]

40 year old here from Dublin, Ireland. I cycle 800km a month, I squat, bench and deadlift heavy. I started BJJ four weeks ago and I can tell you none of the above matters. I have been exposed to weaknesses I never knew I had, it’s very challenging. What I will say is that, I went in with an open mind and informed everyone that I knew absolutely zero and just wanted to learn slowly. Everyone has been so supportive and while they do push you, they know you are a beginner which is great. My advice, become a permanent learner, embrace failure and get your diet right.

[@pauld5723]

I tried it a few years back and didn't stick at it. But might give it a go again sometime in the future. It might be popular with nerds due to it being quite cerebral.

[@MrZachgonz]

I’ve only began my BJJ journey and one thing I noticed is how good women can be. I spare often with a woman who has a purple belt, and she is tough as nails. Any little mistake, she takes advantage of. Been eye opening for sure so see how good technique can easily overcome your opponent’s physical advantages

[@jpbeaupj]

Started at 50 back in Nov 2019. It can be a bit frustrating getting tapped all the time, but rolling is an awesome workout, win or lose. I just try to survive as long as possible and even though I still suck, I don't suck as bad as when I started.

[@mikeytorres4759]

Totally understand. 46 and started in November 2019 as well. Sore all the time and "lose" that many times as well but I win by losing as I continue to learn and grow in all aspects. Keep rolling! OSS!

[@nate87465]

Take those small victories and 1 day they turn into big 1s. Never underestimate just staying longer until U tap

[@brianbeckcom]

STarted at 48. The middle aged JJ guys are the best.

[@richardjones3792]

have you had many injuries?

[@aaaajr1]

I’m 58 I know the feeling

[@sep420]

I still get so nervous an hour before every class.... then after I feel great! Damn my brain!

[@c9hr0ni4c]

Completely normal, I know that exact feeling all too well. Just keep going!

[@sep420]

@@c9hr0ni4c Good to know I'm not alone. Thanks!

[@c9hr0ni4c]

@@sep420 Like you said, the brain is a crazy thing! 100% not alone!

[@MrJoon360]

Wow. I thought I was the only one

[@javis566]

@@sep420 Me too mate

[@Myxocyclene]

Like many, I’m on a journey - I’m 34 and obese (started at 330lbs). Had an intervention and decided I had to change. Hit the gym every other day and started taking BJJ classes, I don’t have the balance or ability to transfer weight effectively or execute simple movements yet but its a marathon, and slowly but surely the fat is dropping off and I’m down to 305 now after 2 months. My advice to anyone who reads this and is in a similar boat is dont worry about sucking, or being laughed at - this community only cares about improving themselves and one another. A big thank you to Jocko and Rogan who got me onto this path!

[@DarwinInTheory]

Thanks for sharing man and way to lead by example. I'm going to check in with your comment every now and then for encouragement (for me).

[@chadrichards8930]

Update?

[@j.r.w6623]

Update?

[@nickw134]

Bro, I’m in same boat now. Thinking of joining at obese 280. But nervous. Really want to though. Your story really motivated me! Would love to hear an update!

[@daguarnizos]

Go ahead LG. After hearing @jockowillink hit us with jiu jitsu on almost every podcast, finally getting my overweight 44 year old ass to find a good gym to go to.

[@Zion-p1t]

Got thrown to the wolves last week and I loved it. Was getting passed around like a blunt and submitted by everyone at the gym. It was great. I had a trial class at a different dojo and I didn’t like it as much because it was slower paced and I had to be paired with other beginners. It’s a blessing to be able to roll with black belts day in and day out. I think I’ve found the place that I want to be and I’m so excited moving forward. 28 years old btw.

[@leomiller2291]

That’s awesome!!!

[@marshallsanders4132]

Just started myself, about to start my third class. I’m 27

[@vedranpocrnja9880]

Got myself a gi and started bjj on 27th birthday on 3rd of August this year. 3 months in, addicted. Good luck to you on your journey m8

[@drjimjam1112]

Think you’re absolutely correct. First gym they threw the white belts together and said fight. Present school I roll with everyone and learn so much more rolling with the upper belts.

[@DorianB328]

You still going at it man? I’m 28 myself and just had my first class yesterday, mostly rolled with the coach (purple belt) and absolutely love it! Also got absolutely whooped but already feel like I learned so much

[@sudhanshuthakur1168]

Jocko's personality is literally something different... The way he talks, the confidence he Carries, the way he explains... Just invincible.

[@deathbybears]

Real humility + real confidence will make a man of you.

[@grantarmbruster6591]

I bet his T level is 1500 or more.

[@JR-ju3kj]

@@chaschev Don't be fooled by his exterior,Jocko's a smart guy and an intellectual, himself. He knows that there's nothing wrong with being a nerd.

[@fabaov2584]

@@chaschev I have no idea why being called a nerd should be considered to be offensive.

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

Modern day Leonidas. He’s a Spartan for sure. Genetics plays a huge role. His family genetics have to be pretty rugged and smart.

[@tomanderson848]

Started at age 62. Man did I need to hear this! Getting my ass hammered and getting hurt weekly, but I love it. I am now on the lookout for “White Belt Hunters”!

[@zareh805]

What’s a white belt hunter?

[@tomanderson848]

@@zareh805 They are higher belts that inflate their own egos by grinding my white belted ass into the mat. Most higher belts humbly assist the lower belts, showing them the ropes so to speak.

[@RicoMnc]

I would much rather train with the experienced higher belts. No, I'm not submitting or dominating any of them, but the experienced is more relaxed and flowing, I don't panic or gas out as much.

[@dom0]

@@RicoMnc and they are usually so helpful too

[@rightway9843]

Tom Anderson I’m 62 as well, it’s a lot of fun.

[@tomhill5119]

When I started BJJ, the best advice I was given was 'accept you will loose every roll, focus on defending and controlling your breathing / keeping calm and make note / pay close attention to what your opponent is doing'. Enjoy the process of being humbled and learning :)

[@ov4775]

Couldnt have said it better

[@Lara-vn3fd]

I started jiu jitsu a month ago and up to this day I was just getting stomped by everyone. Yesterday I finally gotten some feedback from a higher belt who said my defense was improving and he noticed by me moving my body on the ground. It felt really encouraging since I don’t really notice my improvements. We also had 4 new guys coming in. I rolled with two of them and I have to say Jocko was right. After one month of training I was able to submit both of these guys at least twice even thought they were much heavier than me! That was a really big victory for me. Simply seeing that I can actually use my one month old bjj against untrained opponents… I also held someone in my closed guard for 5 minutes 🤓🥰

[@Mikey-zs1lx]

Hi, kind of a random question - when you started out did you find that just below your knees were quite sore? Somewhat like banging your shin off of a table? I've only gone to one session and there was a lot of direct impact on the ground just below the knee and I'm really feeling it now.

[@Lara-vn3fd]

@@Mikey-zs1lx no I didn’t have sore knees. Maybe you should check it with a doc? I do have pain in my elbows a lot of the time though because of alle the arm bars

[@Mikey-zs1lx]

@@Lara-vn3fd The pain is under both knees if that makes sense, kind of at the top of the tibia so I'm assuming that it was as a result of getting bounced around a bit and landing on my knees. Probably should have more common sense and go see somebody about it but I reckon I'll be fine, the pain is only there when I put direct pressure on it, i.e. kneel down. Thanks for getting back to me!!

[@lethal2211]

5 mins?

[@periclescimon9954]

Congrats! That sounds super positive

[@richievillarino]

My Jiu-Jitsu journey started shortly after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. I credit BJJ for keeping me flexible and, most importantly, patient and mentally balanced. BJJ has given me a perspective on life that keeps me focused on the details of the moment. I credit @Jockowillinks and @JoeRogan for the constant motivational content. It makes a huge difference on those days that my body doesn’t want to keep up. Thanks!

[@brandonb5764]

Awesome! respect to you

[@blakespooner4650]

Does your MS ever get in the way of your BJJ? That would frustrate me, your resilience is alien to me

[@typeraw]

Big ups!

[@g8eo3]

My biggest motivator to continue training, to work out, to eat healthy, is the stories of people who are much better than me and who tell me how they started off lost and bad and then just put in the mat time to get where they are. And lo and behold, I've been training for almost 3 years and I'm able to do things I couldn't imagine doing my first week of training. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is beautiful, it's tough as all hell, but it's also super rewarding and provides much more than a body of sweet, effective fighting techniques. So to anyone on the fence, please trust this internet stranger and just go to class and continue training no matter what. It's worth it.

[@horusvancleef7634]

Great Statement! Whole Heartedly Agree! Thank you for your honesty, hope more people see this and go roll. 👍

[@richardjones3792]

have you had many injuries?

[@g8eo3]

@@richardjones3792 I had one that took me off the mats for a couple of months, but it taught me to recognize my limits and to train wIth longevity in mind. It's better to train and tap all the time than to be super competitive in each roll and risk getting injured.

[@krummdiddlyumptious1784]

It’s wild because if you look at any other sport or physical activity, bjj is one of if not the ONLY one where literally every single person says how much it’s helped them and how to just take the leap and start training. It’s wild. I’m about to take that leap, well hopefully if I can muster up enough courage to even step foot In a gym haha.

[@g8eo3]

@@krummdiddlyumptious1784 Try not to over-think it and just go. Once in there, just know it's okay to be lost, or overwhelmed, or really tired. Just be prepared to tap early and often. With time and practice, things will make sense and your body will start to move correctly. 6 months of dedicated training and you'll already see a significant difference.

[@brydenmorton4634]

At 34, I started doing Jiu-Jitsu and have been going for around 2 months now. What an amazing sport... Its basically human chess, I completely underestimated how important a fast mind is within this sport. Basically, if you are a professional / office type worker and you are looking to "free the beast" in a combat sport that will limit the amount of blows to your head (can't be in pieces when meeting clients haha), this is a good one to try.

[@shinobusensui9395]

I'm thinking about getting into something. Ever since the pandemic started I fell into a bit of depression dealing with my career, relationship and family. I got a good deal of built up aggression from it and need to cut loose. I did start working out at home and that's helping. I might start lifting weights at a local gym to help.

[@JS-us8mg]

@@shinobusensui9395 don't go into it looking to unload aggression on someone ... The workout itself will lift your spirits to a better place. Anger is left at the door for me personally.

[@DarthRyueken]

what about cauliflower ears?

[@chask420]

@@DarthRyuekenit shouldn't be a problem unless you roll really hard really often

[@brydenmorton4634]

It doesn't happen often but it has happened to me once. I just wore wrestling headgear while it healed.

[@bleyh]

Just showing up makes you better. I care less about being tapped. I just try to learn why and try to not get tapped again. But my focus is showing the F up. Jiu Jitsu is you vs yourself

[@brianbeckcom]

I’m 48 and started this year, “earned” two stripes on my white belt. First few months I was so sore I couldnt’ believe it (and I was a Division I college basketball player, 6’1’’ 210, good shape). After a few months, I started having less pain and more just good muscle soreness. I try to train 4 times a week, but I have 3 kids playing youth sports so sometimes it’s just impossible. If I could, I’d train BJJ every single day. Best thing I’ve done in 15 years, in multiple ways, one of the main of which is the wonderful people I’ve met. I’m at a Gracie Barra gym in Houston and I absolutely love all my teammates, and enjoy sparring with them. I have a 12 year old daughter and after her school is over this year she’s going to come train self defense with me too. My wife as well, and my two teenage sons are going to come to adult class and spar.

[@drjimjam1112]

I think teaching a teenage daughter self-defense is probably the second best thing you could do for her. Just loving her of course being the first.

[@gabrielalfaia8154]

You earned those stripes, remove the quotes.

[@Mikey-zs1lx]

You happen to experience a bit of pain at the top of the tibia/just below the knee? Almost as though you'd banged your shin off of a table or something? I'm experiencing a bit of that at the moment, makes it quite hard to continue.

[@bittercreek9850]

@@Mikey-zs1lx I am a newby in my 50s, that was in good shape coming into this. I am having lots of joint pain

[@matthewjones9323]

I am 40 years old, used to do crossfit and still workout regularly. Day 2 on my BJJ journey and I got totally smashed yesterday. I am 6'2" 210 and was destroyed by much smaller partners. I am more sore than I have been in a very long time. I love reading all the responses and am encouraged to commit to this long process of growth. Aloha

[@EyesofRinnegan]

Started a month ago. Why didnt I start this sooner? Every time I finish Jiu Jitsu I walk out with a smile on my face even if my face is on the mat

[@CHANELROCKS321]

what it like?

[@EyesofRinnegan]

@@CHANELROCKS321 hour classes, we learn 2 moves and practice them, then we have a 15 minute session of the other person resisting. Its very rewarding and you can notice your progression when your not tapping everytime. I was never a ‘fighting’ guy but I wanted to try it out and I am so glad that I did

[@CHANELROCKS321]

@@EyesofRinnegan that sounds awesome! I plan on starting it next year

[@jadenhalstead7290]

@@EyesofRinnegan any updates? Interested in starting it but a little nervous

[@EyesofRinnegan]

@@jadenhalstead7290 I love it - I have some physical issues currently but I cant wait to get back in it

[@johncole156]

I started Jiu Jitsu 5 months ago at the age of 47, probably the best decision I’ve ever made. I absolutely love it and I get smashed all the time but I love the challenge and the learning experience.

[@Alltheclubs_nogame]

Had my first Jiu Jitsu class yesterday. Like a lot of other newbies I got absolutely thrashed and absolutely loved it!! I embraced getting submitted and enjoyed learning new techniques. Bring on this journey!

[@otisthebunny]

I just started 2 weeks ago at 31. Love this video. I've been getting mauled every class, drenched in sweat, and sore like someone beat me with a bat, but loving it. Thank you Jocko

[@beardoffrost5075]

I went to my first BJJ class few days ago at 28. I had my first forced shit taking after warmup, did my 2nd forced shit taking after just pushing around with 20kg lighter dude (he threw me around like a sack of potatoes). I had an image of myself for so long and I instantly understood what you mean when you say "get humbled" after just 10 minutes past warmup... I regret not doing this earlier. My ego was completely crushed and I god damn loved it. If you're thinking of starting BJJ, don't think.

[@kayleebaginski]

I started in January 2019 at age 24, and the journey has been amazing. I just recently earned my blue belt, and I can’t believe how fast it came. The first 6 months were super tough constantly being blasted and frustrated that I’m not understanding the full concept of positions, techniques, etc. I am so glad I kept going. I’m looking forward to taking it day by day and learning something new on my blue belt journey.

[@leomiller2291]

Congratulations!!!

[@MJHW-st7dt]

Very inspiring! 54yrs old here

[@Sean-tj5cu]

Congrats man! I just started recently myself! What belt are you now? Are you still doing kt

[@kayleebaginski]

@@Sean-tj5cu I'm still a blue belt, but maybe by the end of this year or the beginning of next year I'll be at purple! I am still working hard and training regularly. The learning will never end.

[@hooduswinkus2657]

I am about to have my first jiu-jitsu class in a few hours. Watching this helped me set my fears aside and just enjoy and learn from the beating I might take. Thank you Update: Just got choked 6 times in a 5 minute "roll" today. I had fun and understood that I really have a long way to go. Would do it again, since, I had fun.

[@MrDude180]

Lol I remember that happening to me when I first started. In a few months, you'll be down to getting tapped 2 or 3 times in that same 5 minutes

[@hooduswinkus2657]

Well, I'll have my second class today. But now my target is decrease the amount of tap-outs i might take. From 6, possibly 5.

[@hooduswinkus2657]

And I find it kinda weird, but I feel happy rolling with people despite being subdued like they are folding a napkin. It's the first time I lose a bunch of times but still wanna do it with a smile on my face.

[@MrDude180]

@@hooduswinkus2657 That's great man, don't actually worry about the number of times you get tapped out though it's not important. Your goal should really just be to try and learn as much as you can.

[@deifor]

How is it going now, keep me posted please. I want to start.

[@baloosd]

Just started this month at age 50. It's brutal. I love it.

[@psyience3213]

This is around the podcast i started bjj. Im a blue belt now, been about 2 and a half years. Crazy how the time goes.

[@richardjones3792]

many injuries?

[@psyience3213]

@@richardjones3792 really no. My knees were shot before, it just aggravates them now and then. Back was shot already but physical therapy helps and rolling doesn't bother it unless it's bothered.

[@richardjones3792]

@@psyience3213 oh okay, thanks for the reply. I'm not bothered about pain/soreness, just constant injuries!

[@psyience3213]

@@richardjones3792 honestly injury comes down to athleticism, coordination, and ego. If you have the first two and you learn to tap even if you're just uncomfortable, you won't really got injury. I got my foot my popped once but that was my fault playing footsies with a 10p guy 😆 it was just sore for a couple days.

[@richardjones3792]

@@psyience3213 oh okay, would becoming more flexible help?

[@marcowerner8739]

I am a big dude and have been doing body building since I was 16 years old. I just started BJJ 2 days ago and in my second day, I rolled with a blue belt. BJJ reminds me of a game of chess and is about technique, experience, and physics. Unbelievable sport!!

[@jasonjean2901]

I'm a complete newbie as BJJ but I've noticed something applicable to this conversation. Don't be intimidated by belts, don't allow your mind to create hierarchies of the people in the gym (something people naturally do in BJJ gyms) because your mind will lie to you. Make everyone you roll with earn the win. My first class I got dominated by the instructor and the experienced white belts just like I expected to, but my second class I submitted everyone, didn't get submitted, and even caught the instructor, a purple belt, in a body crush (I have huge legs). I dominated and submitted a blue belt in my first two weeks. I'm not saying I'm good at BJJ, I'm not, but don't let experience and belts get in the way of a good roll. Ignore hierarchies when you roll if you can.

[@NickFunkSoftfalcon]

"...the more you train with a person that is better than you, the better your defense is going to be..." Humiliating in the moment, a true gift later when you look back on it. Sparred a lot with folks much bigger and older than myself when I was a kid. Nothing improved my skills faster.

[@drjimjam1112]

Thanks so much for the encouragement and insight. I just started at 71 and am loving it. Edit: broke a toe in a truck unloading accident, surgery requiring a pin in a couple of days. BJJ postponed. Edit: Broke another toe stubbing it on the mat but both all healed up and back in class. Moved to a smaller school. Got my first triangle choke!! The people at both schools are the best part so far! 1 year later still at it. A few more injuries, just accidental stuff. Learning way to slowly but that’s the way life goes sometimes. Looking forward to my first tournament. Planning to enter by belt and weight, not age.

[@laughteraddict1003]

Thanks for sharing

[@xxxxzzzzz5943]

Glad to see you didn't stop. I'm a fan.

[@alvarorodriguez479]

ive recently experienced the darkest time of my life. i have a problem with self esteem stemming from a traumatic childhood. ive always loved the art of BJJ, so i decided to try a class. after the class i had a rush of emotions, but the best one i felt was pride.

[@tomd1434]

Hey man good for you. I haven’t started bjj yet and I’m 41 but I’m thinking about it. I’ve come a long way but I know what it’s like to struggle with self esteem and how it can stem from childhood and/or those formative years. It’s good to here that you started bjj and that it’s been positive for you. Stick with it. Every single thing that’s happened in your life is something you can learn from. Everything. Keep your head up and just keep going forward. Refuse to let that stuff bring you down. It’s part of your story sure, but it’s just that...a part, like a brief chapter in a big book. Peace

[@alvarorodriguez479]

@@tomd1434 im 41 too, im hooked now,.i love every aspect of it. bjj and stoicism philosophy have helped me tremendously. i feel like a new man. go for it!!

[@tomd1434]

@@alvarorodriguez479 👍

[@lorin1824]

"I wanna get bullied" - Jocko Willink, 2020

[@brandonreynolds2593]

Good

[@brantshepherd9387]

Showed one of my lifeguards a video of Jocko and she said “oh my gosh, even his face is muscular”.

[@dylanwagner1162]

Lol jockos jaw dead lifts 50 pounds in his teeth

[@mikeandridge9641]

Perfect timing for this.....started jiu jitsu 3 wks ago and turn 50 in 2 wks.

[@lachlanstill]

Mike Andridge get some Mike 💪🏽

[@psyience3213]

We have a couple of killers in their 50's and 60's

[@dr6511]

I'm 48, very out of shape and I'm hesitant to start. Honestly, I know I'll feel embarrassed.

[@mikeandridge9641]

Dave-I'm in the same boat, but hey, as Jocko would say...."Good."

[@psyience3213]

@@dr6511 you might be surprised. Remember jiu jitsu is a business, so most make an effort to make sure you don't feel that way. Usually the New students get quasi private sessions during the regular training hours for the first few weeks.

[@user-lt5zf4xh7d]

It isn't a race, it's a journey. With dedication, everyone can do it. Never, ever quit

[@jessfitzgerald5125]

Just started my 4th week of training, at 36 years old. My 10 year old boy and 7 (just turned 7, 2 weeks ago) girl have been doing jiu jitsu for about 6 months. My hubby and I just started training together and I am so excited for all of the growth that jiu jitsu has afforded our family and will for years to come.

[@KevinZieglerBTC]

I began BJJ November 15th 2019 and I love it. It is very difficult, but that’s because it works and you are going every day against a resisting opponent unlike other martial arts. I am loving the journey so far!

[@breakfreefromthematrix]

About 1 month in here.. I feel like the first couple classes were the toughest since I knew nothing. I haven’t been in a situation where I knew absolutely nothing about something. But I’m getting better. Escaping, trying to survive, avoiding getting pulled into a standing guillotine. First time that happened multiple times in a class I went home a KZbin studied how to escape it. Next class it didn’t happen again. Improvement is a great feeling, even as an absolute beginner. Cheers!

[@Smmitherss]

I’ve been doing it for a month I’m 15 and I go only 2 times a week, most of the time I roll I always get tapped. When will I start to stop getting tapped?

[@aaaajr1]

Gentlemen thank you bringing this subject up. I’m 58 years old started Jui Jitsu 11 months ago. Jui Jitsu is the most frustrating and rewarding sport I ever done in my life. There are 5 other men who have also entered the Jui Jitsu journey. Are ages range from 24, 33, 35, 31, 40 and me 58 we are all very similar in size and weight some of us have families we all have that daily grind called work and we’ve become really close I never imagined when I started this journey that I would have this sort of relationship with men who are trying to choke you out or Ambar you we are pushing each other to get better Some of us when we have an opportunity we arrive early to the Academy stretch work on what they taught us the day before and really just try to help each other out but I have noticed that their progress is it going a little faster than mine they are tapping me out 10 times to my 1 when you’re highly competitive even at 58 sometimes it’s difficult to understand I understand my body is limited of what it can do my hips only stretch out so much so it makes some moves difficult other than getting my butt kicked every day it’s the best thing I’ve ever done in my life Jui Jitsu has help me mentally physically spiritually and I want to thank my coaches at Selva BJJ in East LA. I will practice Jujitsu for as long as my body holds up thank you for the Video it helps

[@cthornton523]

Thx for this. I'm 49 & doing metric foxtrot tons of PT so I can start training BJJ in 2020. I adopted two motherless boys when I married their (USMC) father. They have...seen too much. I adore listening to you fellas & JRE speak on how BJJ has enlightened your lives. I want this, for my boys.

[@StanleyPinchak]

No need to get in shape for BJJ. Regularly attending BJJ classes and rolling will do that for you. I have seen a good number of training partners who took the plunge despite being out of shape. The first few classes for them were rough, but quickly their grappling cardio improved and the exercise and increased muscle mass bumped up their metabolism. Some have had dramatic changes in their appearance, others not so much, but they all have a better level of endurance and health than they had when they started.

[@erik8727]

Show your kids the Warrior Kid podcast from Jocko

[@cthornton523]

@@StanleyPinchak I truly appreciate your encouragement. Now I'm even *more* motivated 🤘! I was a pole aerialist. The concern isn't getting winded as much as it is the stability of my pelvic girdle for which I'm in physical therapy. There was a catastrophic accident in 2005 (no I didn't fall off the pole 🤣) after which followed an excruciating 14 year relationship with Big Pharma. We broke up in September. I am no longer their owned AF property. So! I am healing and plotting...healing and plotting. 😈 And I'm somebody's Mom now, two somebodies even! I gotta do this *right*. Thank you for your encouraging and kind words. Best, Christine

[@cthornton523]

@@erik8727 I bought the books but yes! Brilliant idea!

[@erik8727]

@@cthornton523 Hope they like it and it helps them cope a bit.

[@mikeliggett1599]

Started training in 2015 after I got out of the corps in 2014 I'm Afghanistan combat veteran I served with 3/7 in Sangin Afghanistan I have been trying for 5 years now im a purple belt and I just won a local tournament this weekend gi and nogi so any marines out there who are on the fence about trading just do it be uncomfortable and start training

[@eldarhadziomerovic7048]

3/7 No shit!! Keep good work devil!

[@richardjones3792]

many injuries?

[@Quodge]

Class three tonight. Loving it. I keep on reminding myself that a white belt isn’t nothing. It’s the only belt you can give yourself and it’s the way of elevating yourself above the unskilled masses who don’t train. Here’s to the grind.

[@soulburst]

i started at 53 still doing it at 60

[@Delamthedestroyer]

Just out of curiosity, have you progressed up the belt levels? Not trying to be a dick, just interested. I've just come back at 45 after 10 years off.

[@itneeds2bsaid528]

42, my first full class is Saturday. Any advice?

[@soulburst]

@@Delamthedestroyer yes im blue i think i was going to get my purple but the pandemic hit and my academy closed

[@soulburst]

@@itneeds2bsaid528 enjoy it dont worry about learning everything. if you get tired stop let me know how it goes.

[@alessandrocernuzzi]

Awesome. I'm 40 and thinking to start martial arts to get in shape, both physically and mentally, but I have doubts cause of my age, among other things. I guess it's never too late :)

[@Investors_Consigliere]

Can't lie the first and last time I went to jiu Jitsu practice was madness, I was beyond tired from laying on the ground.....lil dudes was wrapping me up with ease who I thought I would manhandle lol I'm 6'8 and 325lbs and was getting wrapped up lol I plan on starting back but I wanna work on my condition first

[@foreignbeggar3783]

a lot of people want that instant gratification, rather than playing the long game. and it CAN be frustrating. but you also have to know what you’re getting into before even stepping foot into the gym.

[@Demonvii7]

Its a slow slow road 😂

[@ottico84]

I started a week ago. I’m happy with the pain, learning curve and all the knowledge and effort still to be absorbed.

[@lfer5116]

Just started this week. 26 years old in Law enforcement, after experiencing how difficult BJJ really is, i gained such a huge respect to it. Everytime I tap out (which is every single roll lmao) I get more eager to learn and be better. One of the best decisions I made.

[@jorgeestrada5547]

I’m 24, grew up very “comfortable” and yesterday was day 1. It was fun but I got my ass kicked very easily EVERYTIME😂. I’m glad I heard someone say to drop the ego because as I was trying to get out of someone’s leg grip, whatever they call it, I was going full force and this dude told me “if you use full force, you’ll exhaust yourself and beat yourself, watch!” and then he taps me 3 times 😂. Glad that I was able to experience it because it really woke me up to life in general. Now I understand why they say to find a good partner, was blessed to have 4 different people having fun to teach me haha

[@izzy_515]

Took 6 or so months before i caught my first sub, 2 in 1 night . Was worth the wait !

[@fredericmenges]

I am 51 years old, and you for one case motivated me also to start this BJJ journey. I am small, 67 KG light, and it is truly a very Long, Slow and Hard Journey. Now I love the training, the learning of movements in general, the nice people you meet,, basically everything. Unfortunately I now truly believe that I am not very gifted at it, but I am in.no rush at all. Just want to keep enjoying the whole BJJ experience. But getting smashed around at every roll by everyone is truly… frustrating from time to time ;)

[@kampa9141]

Some people definitely are gifted.. But no talent alone will never win against discipline, training and persistence. Are you still training jiu jitsu ? All the best mate!

[@franciscovillagrana3103]

I been doing Jiu Jitsu for 10 years and is my zen. It really makes you humble.

[@JedOlsn]

Love how everyone tells his reason and his story how he got into martial arts. Keep 'em coming champs

[@TheRunningRRT]

I’m 51and just took 3rd class!glad I finally decided to give it a shot! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@jasonjamesbradshaw]

Im 53 and started BJJ 3 months ago. Felt very lost for the first 2 months and felt like i was just rolling around without a clue (and exhausted) but weirdly still enjoyed it. I started to notice my cardio improving but i was struggling remembering any moves from one class to the next,and felt pretty overwhelmed. But i bought a grappling dummy a month ago and its changed everything! Im now starting to master the fundamentals (basic chokes and sweeps) slowly in the comfort of my home. I can’t recommend it highly enough!

[@dillionjohnson5545]

Thank you for posting. I just started Jiu Jitsu and I’m enjoying it. I can’t beat up a lot but there’s nothing like a good ass kicking to build up character. Plus once I get really good at it. It’ll all be rewarding.

[@jasonmurray8777]

Jiu Jitsu is a method for developing and/or maintaining doggedness. You either have it when you start or you will develop it if you keep training. The best part is that there is a carryover effect. Folks who gain it in Jiu Jitsu will find they are able to endure in other areas of their life as well.

[@laylowmafia7072]

Just started BJJ this week, I’ve had two classes. I told my wife like 20 minutes ago had I not listened to Joko and Rogan talking about the first year or so of BJJ saying you have to go into it knowing you’re going to get your ass kicked hundreds of times I might’ve gave up already. Today was frustrating and I couldn’t improve my position at all, there was a second where I felt I wasn’t going to get it, then I remembered it’s a process. I cannot wait until I know more and can roll competitively.

[@jeffgardner2093]

52 and just getting started. Thanks for your encouragement and guidance.

[@TheDiolulaLife]

Started on my 46 birthday in Oct 2019, getting smashed and running out of gas fast, watched KZbin to try and learn, but all the wrong approaches for me. Started to just work on breathing and instead of running like a V8 started thinking like a Prius. I’m a lot better now than in Oct, still getting smashed, but now I’m enjoying the process. Just really working on defense game (not by choice) but I know my offense will come soon. It is a process, getting smashed is part of it and once I understood things started to change. Nice to see so many older guys picking bjj up, it such a metaphor to life!

[@richardjones3792]

many injuries?

[@ER-by3ys]

I loved this video. I'm a 44 yr old army veteran and I've been really thinking about starting jiu jitsu as another way of self improvement. I'm not trying to smash anyone just want to learn technique and have a good experience.

[@tOOballs]

I started at 107 and I just got my red belt - keep going guys

[@susanthompson7697]

Nick Smith no way!

[@myrtonen]

Weight or age, kilograms or lbs?

[@rasta1017]

@@myrtonen 107 stones

[@convictednotconvinced]

I am only mediocre at Jiu Jitsu, but in my opinion it is about "feel" rather than simply knowing what to do when (as with all grappling). When I learned the feel of it is when I started having success and when I really started enjoying it.

[@kutthroatkofns4339]

Started jiu jitsu 1 month ago at 25yrs old. Definetly have questioned if it's for me because I suck and don't know if I will ever get it. But at the same time, that's the beauty in the physical and mental battle, you will find out what your made of. To all my fellow white belts, stay strong & continue on the path.

[@hassanrasheed4163]

I feel extremely down after every ju jitsu lesson, even though Im part of an extremely amazing club and everyone is super cool. What no one talks about is how first few weeks or even months you are just training your brain to accept the fact that rolling is not dangerous and the best strategy is to be calm and not freaked out. once this is done , then and only then you can actually begin to learn. I'm still at the stage where I'm learning not to freak out.

[@johnpadilla0029]

I have just started training BJJ at 53, I love every aspect of it & yes it’s frustrating at times. The philosophy of it all is beautiful!!! Anything worth it never comes easy…..🦁💯🙏🏻

[@seanheisey8645]

2 years ago I started my journey. About 7 months in I had to quit and attend PT for my shoulders. Mainly due to me spazzing as a white belt and not tapping early with joint locks. I just started back on the mats a few weeks ago, and my prior knowledge has me surprised. I am relaxed, not forcing myself out of bad positions, and am able to roll back to back days because im done trying to win, and I am here to LEARN! Plus majority of my classes are black and purple belts. No white belts to be seen... Some upper belts once they realize your not their to spaz and "win" will let you work your offense and show you counters, they are usually willing to become teachers once you stop trying to attack them.

[@abelmore7]

Just started learning this year, I’m 33 workout regularly/stretch/very conditioned, my take away…VERY humbling, physically/mentally a different beast, & most importantly the guys I spar with who’ve been doing it a year minimum & some who are black belts are great to be around to help teach me basic(emphasis on the word basic) they want me to learn or more importantly how to mentally respond to different situations when we’re sparing. I’m very thankful, appreciative for them and brotherhood comradery they have being amongst them. If your on the fence? Do it. You’ll be glad you did. I am.🤙🏻

[@BradPitbull]

AM I ALLOWED TO START JI JITSU IF I HAS.... SKINNY KNEES

[@hellios789]

What's is this joke about?

[@travis3754]

Dimitris Pour look up Jocko skinny knees on KZbin, you’re in for a treat.

[@timothymiller9067]

Skinny knees are like ropes in bjj, tie somebody up like the earbuds in my pocket right after I put them in.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

..:-) you can start with a skinny brain ...

[@bensmith2692]

If knees skinny : bjj mandatory

[@thomasdamico3120]

Well both of you have done it. After listening to the podcast for a year you both got into my head. Tonight I plan to go to my first BJJ class. I have some prior combat sport experience but never solely BJJ. At 47, I'm reasonably fit doing what I'm doing, but I can't shake the thought of, FOMO (fear of missing out). I have a feeling it's going to be great. Just going in being humble, relaxed and ready to absorb the knowledge. Thanks again to you both!

[@jsnrlvmyfmly]

I'm 48 and I started training jiu jitsu 6 years ago. By far this has been one of the most physically and mentally demanding things that I've ever done in my life but it's also the most rewarding. Don't worry about winning. Just focus on always coming back. Focus on the fact that you get to go somewhere that you love and you get to do something that you love and jiu-jitsu will carve out and create the best version of you possible. Don't get too high and don't get too low.

[@lancescott6651]

I’m a ncaa wrestler struggling to embrace the grind and this is what has me fired up to be in my position for the first time in a minute

[@1_millionpushups]

I just took my first class yesterday. Loved it, but truly realized that I know absolutely nothing. And I also realized that it's something you can always improve at. And I've only done one class in my life.

[@moritzroos87]

Me too! First time yesterday. Best feeling.

[@dominicc.2935]

I just started BJJ journey last month and i’m loving every min of it!

[@ocantu1987]

i started 2 weeks ago at 33. Man the techniques are very detailed and take tons of practice.

[@jareddulack1]

Took my first class today. Was always nervous about trying jiu jitsu after having a previous traumatic knee injury at a younger age but I can say with pride that I took the step beyond fear today. I rolled with a brown belt 40 pounds lighter than me and he tossed me around like a plaything. I can honestly say it was some of the most fun I’ve had in a long time learning. He even gave me a pity tap when I threw up a triangle on him. Gotta say it’s the most proud I’ve been in myself in a while even tho he gave it to me on a platter then proceeded to ragdoll me I enjoyed every second of it. Will definitely be going back!

[@bubba_sawyer]

I’ve started and stopped a few times, YEARS passed by in between. I regret not sticking to it. It’s one of my favorite things to do, but I’ve dealt with anxiety for so long, it’s what stops me. I’m overweight, so I make the choice for others assuming they don’t like rolling with me because I sweat more, probably disgust them because I’m fatter than them, struggle to get through warm/ups…etc. I’ve driven there so many times and instead of turning in the driveway, I just drive by it and go back home. Sucks. I’ve also lifted weights since I was 17 (I’m 46) so I’m very strong AND fatter than most in Jiu Jitsu. So even when I’d train, I would NEVER apply pressure because it wasn’t fair, and I wouldn’t use my strength whatsoever. I did this to myself. I’d love to get back into it, but I don’t know. Sorry to be so somber lol.

[@91Edgarjan]

Did you go eventually? I hope you did, if not, every day is a new opportunity!

[@bobbybick4804]

I Live in San Diego and recently started looking for a Gym to Join and I Found the Gym Jocko Owns! Literally down the street from me I think it’s time to go get some

[@kevinmills1410]

Bobby Bick if you don’t sign up you squandered a great opportunity

[@brianbecker481]

But did you go?

[@bobbybick4804]

Yes sir I did

[@asterbo1554]

I’m 15 years old and I’m currently starting Jiu Jitsu as a way to exercise and seeing if it could help me get out there. I’ve never had more fun than my first day, I’m excited to start my journey and I’m prepared to be taken down loads of times before I can get better!!

[@Hiaki1000]

I just started jiu jitsu a week ago and I fell in love with it already and the fact that I literally can't do shit against anyone at the moment is even more motivating for me. If I could sub someone who trains 2 years after a week or two I think I would quit. What would be the point. But the fact that I can learn something new and progress literally infinitly in this sport is super cool for me.

[@finchtime]

Just started my BJJ journey and loving it - thank you Jocko!

[@bisaillion]

Everything about BJJ feels so counter intuitive. I'm 43, just started, and I want to keep it up to learn something completely new. I hope I keep it up.

[@tomd1434]

I’m 41 and thinking of starting.

[@stellasoulintuition]

Im a mum of 4 under 5 and I started to feel down and realised I needed to get out of the house. Ive been athletic all my life but havent been doing training since being a mum but now ive been doing bjj for a month 2/3 times a week and Im really loving it!!! Its been so good since starting and I have a goal to compete next year!

[@jasonfoster6075]

I started Jiu Jitsu month and a half ago at age 49. I owe it mostly to this podcast. One of the best things i have ever done. Thanks for the great podcasts!

[@Mr47CRO]

Training bjj 6 months, highest belt I submitted was brown belt with an ezekiel probably because he didn't see it coming. Also submitted purple and blue belts. Won first tournament I ever been to, second time got a bronze. I consider myself talented but still frustrated when I lose and fuck up. This video helps thanks jocko

[@felixungar2301]

Ha ha bull$hit!

[@Mr47CRO]

@@felixungar2301 honest to God. I understand your doubt as many comments here are the opposite of my but I speak the truth. I just have a talent for grappling and am very strong for a guy my size. 6'1 180 pounds.

[@RangerFu]

That happened to me! I tap a brownbelt with an ezikiel im a big guy to ( he Stay off training some time and he came back with no stamina)

[@Mr47CRO]

@@RangerFu yeah if you have a bit of talent and luck you can submit bigger belts. Good job man

[@BraiytryeneGibbons]

I just did my first class and I’m dead exhausted so this video helps... got my ass handed to me

[@184ktmdm]

I just started this week. Had my second class yesterday. I’m pretty damn sore.

[@c9hr0ni4c]

I'm 2 months in tomorrow, yall just keep coming! We got this! I'm sore as hell also lol

[@angelrivera7521]

I started two weeks ago. Lol. I have alot to learn!! Keep going guys! Bless.

[@jamesarnold6070]

Just keep showing up. The rest will take care of itself.

[@radsss45]

@@184ktmdm Bro its a totally different type of sore too!

[@Avrielfer]

Its been 21 years since i trained went back today at 27 and let me tell you im so glad i did Learning the moves Then practicing them Aggressively but respectfully no anger or hate bur just wanting to help the other students get better was awesome Dont over think Do research though then speak to a teacher at the school and most have free beginner classes and just go why not even 2 days out the week is a great time to let off steam and be around like minded people who just want to have fun and get better Biggest thing is the being humble part im some one who needs that more and being tossed around quickly and choked or locked up by a person 30lbs lighter definitely puts that ego in check when you think your safe because your strong 😂

[@Auto209]

I just started today and I’m glad I wasn’t frustrated at all. Knew I was gonna be shit when I went in and I was. So much learned today though

[@zareh805]

I actually like rolling with the higher level guys. They teach a lot when I’m rolling with them. I’ve found out which guys I like to roll with.

[@patchiwolf5310]

Thank you! This is so helpful. I just had my second session tonight.

[@gking407]

Jiu jitsu is for anyone and everyone, but I’ve witnessed mega positive life changes in three types of people: children 13 and under, women, and very overweight men. I know because I’ve learned important lessons from all of them 👊🏼

[@blasphemous]

I'm 29 and I started training jiu jitsu for 1 month now and I've lost about 6lbs and I feel like a champ but you're gonna be sore. You're gonna feel it but it's a great feeling but dont push yourself

[@joejohnston3]

Just found this podcast and am loving this series! I am hoping to find a way to afford to start BJJ classes sometime. I am 53 this October and have been encouraged to see that it is not too late to start. I love the BJJ community and really want to be a part of it as soon as feasible. Thank you for these podcasts and your service.

[@schattenhuhn611]

you only realise how good you got when there is a new "new guy" on the mat

[@calmwater2529]

I teach a so called, “striking system.” I have now at 62 yrs old started Jiu Jitsu. It’s been about 6 months. 6 weeks with bruised ribs. 😊 My gym has great, great training partners from white to brown belt. I always get great feedback. Humility and hunger to learn makes people want to share with you. Let me say this. “I have not submitted anyone yet.” 😅. That’s perfectly ok by me. The greatest compliment (I only absorb a compliment for a few secs then let them go and get back to work from zero) I received is from a guy that used to smash me with ease, is I’ve gotten so much better, especially my defense. I purposefully put myself in guard when I roll because I’m terrible at it. His words just encouraged me to keep working on little things one by one and just get better at them. Before you win you have to learn how to lose. That’s my philosophy in Jiu Jitsu.

[@cloud_monkey422]

I have a panic attack, sometimes multiple panic attacks during one class but I always eventually finish class and I keep coming back for more. It’s weird cuz I can’t figure out why I’m having them lol but man it’s embarrassing and it sucks and it’s even worse cuz I suck at jiu jitsu snd im only like a month in..... But it’s still not gonna stop me from coming back haha Not after losing 100lbs and over coming being a heart patient! OSS

[@kollu8896]

How are you doing now?