What Are the Most Effective Martial Arts? - Jocko Willink

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Excerpt from JOCKOPODCAST 23

[@naikhanomtom7552]

I trained Muay Thai for years and got to a point where I felt confident that against someone of a similar size, I'm going to easily damage them. I then rolled BJJ for the first time and realised that if I don't manage to get a one shot knockout, eventually a grappler will grab you, get you down and the fight is literally over.

[@lilmac10mac21]

Same Iv boxed for years and I’m pretty confident in my skills but rolling in bjj is just different if a jujitsu practitioner gets a hold of you it’s pretty much over😂

[@jdt8983]

Yeah the best is both but one on one I bet on grappling. But best maneuver of all is a titty twister. Or just tell the guy you're gay and horny and win by watching him walk away. Unless of course he's actually gay - and then your fake gay will make you want to walk away. This is all very Sun Tzu

[@leoalexandermusic]

Wrestling>bjj

[@jdt8983]

@@leoalexandermusic maybe? I would think if you're more of a fast twitch fiber bound or larger guy that might be true. I think athleticism goes a little further in wrestling

[@leoalexandermusic]

@@jdt8983 to an extent. But you can show a wrestler a little bjj, and they will do a lot better than somebody who does bjj and learned a little wrestling. There's always exceptions of course, but I think wrestling is superior.

[@alecmonaghan1160]

"Everyone has a plan till they get double leg take-downed" - Jocko Willink probably

[@karamlevi]

My training partner just crushed his attackers eye with a trained finger during mid take down... got exonerated by multiple boards, and back on duty. Oh, and it was a traditional martial art being applied during a street attack to a much larger person.

[@SundownTE]

@@karamlevi yeah, sure he did 😂

[@crazymacedonianboi]

@@karamlevi “ under appreciated “ psssft ... wish I could get away with defending myself. so ur pig partner is back on duty ? sounds like a fabricated story but okay . I knocked out some mma bully at a Ymca when I just moved here from a high crime area and he attacked me first ( I’m tired of telling the story but he was 70 pounds heavier than me and he ambushed me when I didn’t know he was in the locker room ready to fight over me telling an acquaintance friend how rude him and his wife and daughter were in the sauna) ...I didn’t even have my shoes and socks on and was in my briefs and he had his shirt off and shoes on 😂😜 one left hook caught him because he underestimated me really bad . I was about to keep hitting him because I wanted to kill him . that’s why people should mind their own business. they wanted to give me six months in the work house and I had to waste my money on a lawyer. glad my fam helped me out . the loading dock pays peanuts 🥜. 🐷 the life of King Tut but mad because people r telling it how it is and has been for a long time.

[@crazymacedonianboi]

he didn’t get a chance to take me down because I’m sure that’s what he wanted because I’m kinda small and cute until I get mad 😡😂😜 I looked the guy up on Facebook and he had a few amateur fights that he won. he staggered out that locker room leaking with a lump on his face bleeding all over his family. he tried to demand an apology from a guy like me and it wasn’t happening. yeah try being a normal person in the hood without a badge 😂😜wow.

[@crazymacedonianboi]

@@karamlevi oh forgot to say : I got freaky strong hands 😂😜 arm wrestle me 💰 I’ll take it . from working hard and genetics. my family all has it.

[@jamsheeddevotee7588]

As a keyboard warrior, I'll tell you now, Krav is factually the best based on my years of inexperience.

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

Krav Maga was a blend of martial arts techniques developed for last resort use by captured civilians and guerillas. Defendu was the system for the SOE combat practitioners. The truth of any martial art is that it's like being a musician. Yes, there are classical schools, and technical systems, but the real players are individuals with their own style. Study everything. Do what works for you.

[@MW-dd8vk]

Weareallbeingwatched I think it it depends on how you train. For example if your main goal is self defence and you don’t spar or pressure test then what’s the point of learning or teaching it. Most schools don’t do that and instead give off a mcdojo vibe

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

@@MW-dd8vk well, krav is pretty good for keyboard warriors - the techniques are cunning ambushes, and can have some very ugly outcomes. You are only supposed to use those techniques as a last resort, and they are a gamble which might save your life... or might not. Krav is ideal for keyboard warriors and inexperienced fighters. That is what it was designed for. Defendu you really shouldn't "just have a go" at, and the sparring can put people in hospital as well.

[@perfectlyaware2953]

🤣🤣🤣

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

Anything that ever came out of israel was shite

[@CaseyBurnsInvesting]

Being able to handle yourself striking and on the ground builds huge confidence

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

Thats why these vaginal police men need to train.. I think its their fear/cowardice and lack of confidence that begets their immediate unprovoked violence

[@lordofudead]

Knowing how to strike protects you from random brawlers, knowing how to wrestle protects you from people who only know how to strike. As someone who does boxing, if someone tries to take me to the ground from the onset I know im fucked...most people dont go to ground unless they know what they are doing. On the other hand, in an open space, you can box multiple opponents (2-3 max, if your very very lucky) but you can only ever grapple one person at a time.

[@crazymacedonianboi]

@Nikolaij Brouiller unless u made the unaverage person mad 😂🤬😡

[@crazymacedonianboi]

@Nikolaij Brouiller I go in with a level head but a desire to tear them up. yeah I’m a hot head but I can plot when I’m mad.

[@crazymacedonianboi]

@Nikolaij Brouiller because you’re scared and not smart. don’t run ur mouth if u don’t want ur face cracked open . and if u shoot them u go to prison where you’ll still be scared and get beat every day 😂😜shut up keyboard warrior. there’s a major surplus of u online.

[@Lizardmanisbest]

Striking and grappling are both halves of the same thing: hand-to-hand combat.

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

its all a part of SWAG bro

[@treykashflow6183]

Yes !

[@jdt8983]

I think it depends on who you are but more like a 3/4ths (grappling) and a 1/4th (striking)

[@curseofthewerebadger4104]

I remember my grandfather telling me that a fight shouldn't last any longer than three seconds. But then he was a WW2 SAS veteran so, to him, a fight ended when one of you was dead.

[@SatorMoon]

He’s right though. Most street fights is just a bunch of monkeying around without an actual ability or willingness to end it. For most It’s about the beat down now the win. My Sensei told me the same thing, if it takes you more than 3-30 seconds to finish a fight, you don’t know what you’re doing

[@elenacabrera3438]

@@SatorMoon I disagree, fights are shorter when no one knows what they are doing because they just wale power shots at each other with no strategy or patience. The more experienced the fighters the longer the fight becomes. Unless of course you have an incredibly experienced fighter vs some random joe, then yes it will be over quickly.

[@noooname2568]

Your grandad was an absolute beast to be in the SAS. Those guys are made different

[@tbhayt]

G-d bless your grandfather! That is something to be very proud of! Hero

[@luceinbattaglia9425]

Very wise

[@sage0fthiccpaths656]

My own sensei in karate brought in a close friend of his who was a BJJ instructor to teach BJJ classes twice a week because he said it was the most effective martial art for self-defense, especially for us young women. And as a young woman who has used BJJ to get out of a chokehold put on me by a guy, I'm always thankful for being introduced to martial arts and by extension, BJJ. It legitimately saved my life.

[@donsimons9810]

oh my - what happened? Guy in a subway thing or an ex?

[@jimmyconway5169]

Hahaha so nosy

[@lennarthomas]

Bjj the best? One of for sure. I think judo is more but to each his own

[@ahmedbukhamsin4733]

@@lennarthomas yeah you definitely don’t want to be on the ground in a self defense situation where multiple people are trying to attack you

[@jackkovar7806]

@@lennarthomas So like, no gi Judo you mean? That's what gets me there, it's mostly based on the gi holds and throws it seems

[@ItsHenDawg]

Me: Jocko, how do I defend myself? Jocko: DO EVERYTHING

[@verbon47]

RUUUUUN

[@Slave-of-the-most-merciful]

Just learn 2 martial arts one for grappling and the other for striking

[@gospodinkenobi9903]

This reminds me of Indiana Jones' duel with a sword-swinging man in the raiders of the lost ark

[@BobJones-gn2tr]

@@gospodinkenobi9903 Or the Aussie with the bigger knife when mugged in Manhattan....his name slipped my mind.

[@gospodinkenobi9903]

@@BobJones-gn2tr crocodile Dundee

[@BootyClapKC]

I wanna be jocko when I grow up

[@joshuac5656]

Im 37 and I want to be Jocko when I grow up...

[@americanmambi]

We all do bro

[@crazymacedonianboi]

😂😂😂I’m happy to be the crazymacedonianboi. so not all do .

[@bengeorge8663]

You can't you have to be born that way.

[@muaythaikicks3418]

Whats that

[@zsedcftglkjh]

Boxing: the art with easiest learning curve; even a little training will go a long way, but it can be honed to a masterful level. Stance, striking, and defense.

[@sasquatchhunter86]

Good for multiple attackers. Stick and move, run like hell.

[@GhostRider-uk3xv]

No way, muay thai is much more effective. Far more variation, knees and elbows are also stronger than fists.

[@LanMandragon1720]

@@GhostRider-uk3xv He didn't say it wasn't he said boxing is easier to learn an highly effective. Which is all true and can remain true even with Muay Thai beinh better overall.

[@Bawks_FEET]

@@LanMandragon1720 yeah from my experience boxing is much easier to learn because you only have to worry about a couple variables, where as muay thai there are much more factors involved

[@Bawks_FEET]

@Zyan Pearsall this is definitely not true, they have really good defense and clinches and shit. Its not like muay thai users just stand there and get punched in the nose lol

[@nellynuz42069]

I was jumped by two guys. Super confident in my bjj, I took him down after he sundayed me in the back of the ear. As I began to go to work, his buddy started pounding me in the back of the head which got me to let him go. Once I let him go, he delivered three shots to my face knocking me out. Bjj only works against 1 dude.. Always be aware of your surroundings 👍

[@OP-qy6yn]

Always thought this, sorry it happened to you but exactly what I expected from bjj on the street. The best thing IMO is learning stand-up space management and leg kicks.

[@kacpermoney2820]

Even if it was one guy, its a stupid streetfight. What are you going to do, snap his leg or arm? Slam him to the ground and break his back and possibly kill him? Just punch/poke an eye and run away.

[@Dram1984]

This has always been my thinking. You need to know grappling but the very last place you WANT to be in a street fight is on the ground.

[@daysofgrace2934]

In England if you start rolling around on the ground his mates are going kick you in the head and stamp on you. Tarmac is too rough too roll around

[@gt1123]

The legend has it. Jocko traps the souls of his fallen enemies in his forearms.

[@gerardogarcia7414]

Lol

[@marcalexander6450]

Hahaha

[@AstralHyren]

I did Taekwondo as a kid then wrestling in high school, and now I'm doing boxing. Before I did wrestling, though, if someone got me in a headlock I was in trouble. You gotta know both for each situation.

[@johnstephens2997]

Nothing beats distance and a firearm.

[@stuartglover2441]

@@johnstephens2997 except for when your firearm jams and they close the distance. Gotta know it all man

[@j-me6317]

That’s a good combination imo. How are you liking the boxing?

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

@@stuartglover2441 Modern guns don’t really jam if you’re not using shit ammo and shit mags.

[@jolosarmiento24]

@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 what guns do you use bro?

[@joshuaellison6356]

"...The next thirty decades of my life..." *Jocko is Wolverine confirmed*

[@tristar6118]

Jocko: *thinking about the next 30 decades of his life*

[@jimmywhite3590]

Lol

[@djaxup]

So his childhood?

[@c.crespo8196]

300 years?

[@S.C.-wo8hq]

Thanos

[@Kinglookup2320]

That would be 300 years. I think you meant 3 decades

[@jacobsipes]

Effectiveness is situational. Learn all you can, from whatever you can. I've used Karate to defend my wife in a multiple attackers scenario. (My JJ training wouldn't work.) I've also use my JJ to restrain an one-off attacker, where my Karate was less effective in controlling the threat. Don't get stuck in 'styles.' Stay mission minded.

[@illwitness]

I always stay mission minded when I raw dog chicks. The effectiveness is 100% guaranteed on achieving my objective.

[@nickyrichardson4548]

I don't belive in karate. Muay thai is the way to go in my opinion

[@byronfrescatore7276]

Facts.....each style has it's place. I don't know that there is a one style beats all.

[@DannyBoy426]

@@byronfrescatore7276 Is it too late for me to train in bjj, wrestling and boxing? I feel like those three would be there most useful in a street fight situation. I’m 22 years old.

[@mortuaest3547]

@@DannyBoy426 I’ll say it now if you’re getting into training for the specific reasoning being it’ll help in a street fight be careful that’s how I thought,being a trained fighter boosts your ego and if you’re looking for street fights as a trained fighter with a higher ego things can end very badly,keep this in mind

[@billydagoat4416]

Muay Thai & Ju Jitsu together is deadly 💪🏾

[@TabooRevolution13]

Wing Chun beats Muay Thai sir.

[@sevynn3970]

@@TabooRevolution13 depends on how good each fighter is in their respective art. The rock/paper/scissors, this art beats that art thing is pure fantasy and only made by those with no real fighting experience.

[@dusleratasoy7025]

​@@TabooRevolution13nice joke

[@TabooRevolution13]

@@dusleratasoy7025 I argue Wing Chun has an advantage for bursting between spinning and twisting motions.

[@dusleratasoy7025]

@@TabooRevolution13 wing chun is useless in real fights. If you watch too many Ip Man films you believe it will work but in real world it is not efficent at all

[@Uncle_Tijikun]

I am a traditional karateka, trained in full contact Okinawan karate and I have to back what Jocko says. Thinking of stopping a grappler with striking only is pure fantasy.

[@verbon47]

Goodluck stopping a judo guy with striking, the moment you throw a punch and move on you’re already on the floor and hoping you’re not getting smacked

[@TabooRevolution13]

Oh Ya! Karate CHOP!

[@aankgupta]

No in real street situation ...kungfu animal techniques are quite useful..they are very brutal and always aim for weak spots to kill the opponent

[@lw9954]

@@aankgupta Yes in a street fight the goal is to definitely commit a murder lmao

[@HaykAmirbekyanTKD]

youre just probablt not that good at Karate mate. not many people are. its a dying art

[@IG-kn6ne]

"Do everything" love it! Let's go coach!

[@ClintonCaraway]

I was raised in the rural Appalachian Mountains during the 70s and 80s. When I was growing up disputes were settled by fist fights. No one had access to martial arts training but what they did have access to was wrestling in high school. I can tell you that without a doubt the guys who were on the wrestling team for four years were not to be messed with. They would destroy guys who thought they were tough. It's just a fact that someone who is trained in grappling can hurt you.

[@WatWarrior22]

Wrestling and grappling isn't everything there's so much more that goes into a fight, this is why I have an issue with talking to grapplers about martial arts I've been in martial arts for a very long time Muay Thai specifically and I have never a met a single wrestler jujitsu or judo practitioner that was humble these people seriously think that grappling is the end all be and that's all you need to know and that's the only thing that makes you dangerous it doesn't, it's fuckin annoying. There are numerous things and other disciplines and techniques and skill sets that can be utilized in fighting in taking somebody down not everything is wrestling.

[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

Wrestlers good wrestlers seem to double leg me almost every time with no problem lol definitely important to get good double leg sprawls under hooks over hooks etc

[@TheSandkastenverbot]

My dad told me about fights where boxing club members fought against wrestlers and more often than not had no chance

[@rico14]

@@WatWarrior22wrestling and grappling are everything if you can’t defend it. Nothing else matters when a guys on top of you punching you in the face.

[@MMALAB]

My main art, my base is Muay Thai, which incorporates sparring, devastating strikes but also a lot of grappling which makes it really a really good choice and a perfect stand-alone complete martial art to invest in it, for using it -if ever needed in self-defense situations. But jujitsu can help us to complete our main art, whatever this is, and transform it to another level, as it fits perfectly everywhere and has no real form, it takes form depending on the situation, so it is a valuable tool to confront everything. 🙏

[@TheLateScottBaio]

yea muay thai is really complete, just ask the burmese peasants who killed the 10000 muay thai fighters the king of siam sent to invade....

[@MMALAB]

​@@TheLateScottBaio The art of Muay Thai of "now" in comparison to "The Siam Kingdom" Era, is a completely different martial art after it has evolved so much by then, as I have covered this in my Documentary, Muay Thai - The Arts of MMA. As modern jiujitsu has nothing to do with samurai jiujutsu. But here you are talking about an invasion which is an armed conflict, which is another thing. Muay Thai or BJJ or etc is just only a tool in a multi-factor, highly tactic "game". During my service, I've realized that the best weapon is the "team", as a special forces' squad, moving as one, breathing as one, acting as one, the perfect combination and execution of the plan under pressure, and not action-movie jumps kicks and "cinematic" heroism. And there were guys less proficient in "martial arts" that could decapitate someone in seconds with a knife out of pure killer instinct. When it comes to war, sometimes it doesn't matter how good or badass you are, you and your whole squad, or the entire army loses and has casualties as in every conflict in human history. A "peasant" literally ended the Duchy of Burgundy in 1477 with a simple swing of his halberd... We must underestimate no one. Thank you.

[@seanreed9472]

I love MT and have spent plenty of time trining under a Kru, but you are not going to stop Wrestling takedowns unless you cross train.

[@MMALAB]

@@seanreed9472 I agree. Definitely cross training is the key.

[@seanreed9472]

If I could pick only one then yes, MT has the edge. But boxers have much, much better hands and wrestlers have much, much better takedowns, defenses. My MT Kru was always trying to change my hands (I came from a boxing and wrestling background) but in sparring my hands were much better than any of the pure MT guys.

[@hammerlane3871]

I did both karate and jiu jitsu and in our karate dojo to get from brown to black belt we were required to learn jiu jitsu takedowns and submissions which was a huge benefit for me because when I became a brown belt in karate I was also a purple belt in jiu jitsu so everything we were being taught i already knew. But in my opinion it was the best practice that our sensei (who also was a police officer) implemented

[@michaelw7769]

Which style of karate you practiced

[@ignatiusstablishmentariani7721]

Karate's grappling is borrowed from the Judo (technically Jiu Jitsu) of the occupying samurai of Okinawa. They're nigh identical. Learning Judo or BJJ is like going more in-depth in karate's grappling.

[@mikeharvey9184]

My old Kenpo instructor... who started in his early 20's and is now in his 60's and a 10th degree black belt... always encouraged us to go learn some jujitsu or something similar and incorporate it into our Kenpo. His logic is he recognized that the one weakness of kenpo was a lack of ground game, and he believed it couldn't hurt us and only help us if only to get a different perspective.

[@calebe16]

I believe that when the person claimed to be a traditional karate practicer, he means that he practices something closer to the original Okinawa karate, which was based in self defense and included grappling and the use of weapons, opposed to the sportified version of karate which is widely practiced around the globe as a form of sports, competition and recreation.

[@leestelly8307]

One of the many qualities I appreciate about Jocko, he's a realist.

[@dansmol5993]

Just find what you love!!!! If you enjoy the process, you’ll succeed. Of course, having two different arts combined is great! Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu for me)

[@LGZEE]

"One answer, is not the answer" sounds like a quote from The Book of Five Rings. Either way, good advice right there.

[@jefflemaster2850]

LGZEE great book- more people should read it

[@rickfrazier7114]

Make sure you get a good translation. A lot has been lost....

[@ryanarntz5098]

The Dao De Ching. A way that can be followed is not a living way.

[@liammullen2144]

"One answer, is not the answer. You must know the way broadly and see it in all things"

[@tayfun6378]

good reminder. I must read it before I'll get to the podcast #100 on this book.

[@ryangreen5796]

Grappling is the best for one on one fighting no doubt, but in today's world it is essential to know either boxing or muy thai would help fighting multiple attackers

[@joshuabrant3487]

you are right you need grappling knowledge in your back pocket, but for actually protect yourself you should be circling while striking people who get close to you and looking for an opportunity to run not going to the ground deliberately lol

[@contempris2383]

Spot on.

[@youssefzayed2093]

judo and wrestling can work against more than one attacker

[@ranfan1820]

@@youssefzayed2093 how so?

[@youssefzayed2093]

@@ranfan1820 cuz a judo throw or trip doesn't take more than 10 seconds or maybe less and there's a video on KZbin of a wrestler fighting two guys and he beat the shit of them

[@natedizzle12245]

I was at work today and wanted to watch this video when I saw it in the feed. Was hoping it would show up again...

[@majimamike4097]

Every full contact martial art/combat sport is effective simply because you feel the pain,stress and experience situations adapted to real fighting. I prefer striking but grappling is equally realistic. The best thing though is to practice both striking and grappling if you have the time and money to do so.

[@DoomGuy-kf8fv]

Been doing traditional karate for 15 years, and I wrestled consistently for 3. I’ve found that in my striking when they get too close they panic where as I’m at home. You gotta train both boys. They hit the nail on the head here!

[@DoomGuy-kf8fv]

I still practice some of my wrestling to keep the rust off, and I use the throws in my karate sparring constantly. I also roll with my friend who does bjj

[@Simonds007]

I feel like Judo and the devastating throws it teaches are often overlooked.

[@thulegezelschap5884]

Because people only think of falling on a mat instead of eating the sidewalk

[@jb6368]

judo is best full stop ! as someone in law enforcement i can tell you in court judo got you covered,,,esp on cctv if covered,,,you engage in struggle a throw/push is alot more easy on eye compared to say even one closed fist punch,plus nothing hits harder than concrete,

[@masrurbule2868]

I think judo is pretty deadly but not necessarily effective, grabbing someone in a fight is not easy

[@Simonds007]

@@masrurbule2868 Getting in a clinch with someone when you want to isn't too difficult.

[@seetsamolapo5600]

@@masrurbule2868 almost every boxing match ends up in the cling. Actually ALL boxing matches. That's why the referee separates them. Now, that's the range where judo comes into play. Of course striking is important too. You need all to be a complete fighter boxing/muay thai + wrestling/judo /bjj

[@blue0eyes0knight]

It is all relative, dependent on the situation. My experience is this.......1 v 1 grappler vs striker (similar ability is respective art) = wrestler has advantage. 1 v 1 experienced striker or experienced grappler vs non trained individual = Doesn't matter, both effective. 1 vs multiple opponents= striker has advantage over grappler (better footwork to line up opponents and deal with one at a time, may not KO all of them but who says you need a KO to deter or neutralise someone. Loads of videos online of strikers KO'ing 3,4 even 5 opponents in a short space of time, never seen a grappler put multiple opponents to sleep within 10-15 seconds.

[@DonDon-ou7jt]

i was trained in judo, taekwondo, boxing and muay thai. Each martial art is unique to one another, so in my opinion it is not a good idea to compare every style and conclude which is the best. i think the main essence of martial arts is not about which style is the best, but rather what do martial arts does for a person. There are many positive things we can get from martial arts like having strong mind, body and spirit. So regardless of the style I think that any martial arts is useless if it makes a people an asshole instead of a better person.

[@treykashflow6183]

Very well said.

[@ddmound]

Don I agree with you in attitude but certainly not belief since none of what you mention is Martial Art(s). Bruce Lee has everyone thinking they are an Martial Artists bc they practice self defense. There is only one Martial Art and Bruce Lee was banned from learning it. His whole complaint was that what he knew was not enough. (wing chun "Beautiful Springtime") You cannot say that about Martial Arts. The only thing I have heard anyone say when coming to Gung-fu is "they will never take anything else". (I learned Gung-fu in East Cleveland Ohio 1st generation and before that Chinese Kenpo with the Stracy's and Shaolin with James Cook) afterwards coming to California; judo Roy Bushudo, aikido June Mateo, more king-fu My Jong longhorn w Peter Wong, Tai Chi Chuan (2 original forms of Kings and Jung) with rick Peterson, and can showed them all how it came from gung-fu) And while karate training and kung-fu training will condition your body, its effect is not meant to be long lasting. And that is bc what Martial arts does is build Chi (rapidly) which comes from zen which is incorporated into the forms to do it coupled with weaponry training. (lotus sutra) Karate (barr none) and kung-fu cannot do this even if you practiced it 100 years. BTW us what happened in Shaolin originally before they discovered Gung-fu. They practiced Chinese Boxing for 2300 years or more. But took 7 years to develop Gung-fu with Buddha's help but he never learned it just provided the text (3) and helped the monks getting healthy. As a rule the name of the art form tells you where it is from. Judo is a sport (considered in Japan) like taekwondo is in Korea. Muy tai actually descends out of tai boxing so neither of these are Martial Arts bc they do not produce chi. The use of chi in Martial Arts is for breaking bones, maiming and taking life. This is why they do not condone it being shown. And yet you learn it you know it you show it. The idea is if you see Martial Arts it will kill you in battle. True Martial Arts from Central Shaolin (before it was Northern) is now Southern China PaQua kuntao style. There is no comparison!

[@LBaker805]

🥋bow

[@TheSandkastenverbot]

As an analytic person I like to separate terms rather than conflating all kinds of things into a single term. As such, the quality of a martial art should be defined by how much it increases your chances to defend yourself, period. Don't mix all kinds of criteria into it. If you want a strong mind, body, spirit you can as well run or dance or meditate. If you want to get more flexible, you can just stretch or dance. That's not what separates a good from a bad MA because it doesn't have anything to do with MA. Apart from that it's usually not the martial art itself who makes an a-hole of a person but, if anything at all, the people you're training with.

[@cullentaylor6445]

I’ve listened to these for a year and just now actually WATCHED, and wow I did not expect echo to look like that. HUUUUUUGE

[@michaelb1761]

College football player at Hawaii

[@Harlem139Convent1]

I was all state wrestler, i was decent, but I learned if u ever get into a fight with multiple attackers u really don’t wanna go to the ground so I started boxing which i did for a long time, i started BJJ about 8 years ago, i its very effective! U have to know the stand up, and the ground game in this day!!

[@poonbandit9924]

I’ve done the fighting and gone to the gyms, folk style, freestyle, Roman Greco, jiu jitsu and knowing how to throw a punch and some kicks for the stand up game are truly effective. Occasionally you still get rocked it is what it is, jiu jitsu beats wrestling all things equal but if I’m a better wrestler then you are at jiu jitsu wrestling wins, if we’re equal grapplers the one with the better standup game wins. There are plenty of freaks out there that can wreck your life with muy tai or whatever, but those guys know take down defense as well. My conclusion is (take it as you may, I’m a key board warrior after all) a grappling background is always key. This is from a 26 year old definitely out of shape fighter/ wrestler that got out of the game.

[@joshuahaynes2573]

My dad started me with judo at 5 . We started doing boxing and leg striking at 7 . When I went inton7th grade he decided to be assistant coach for a wrestling program so I started wrestling folk ,free style and greco that year . I got secound in state forfeiting 1st that first year dislocating my shoulder . I pretty much dominated until 10th grade when we moved to a no wrestling state . I started learning bjj when I was in the army . Defiantly my years of experience prior made thw transition very easy

[@aa-ze5cz]

Judo is very underrated for self defense in a street fight. BJJ is incredible and 1 on 1 you will absolutely annihilate someone trying to hurt you with no experience, but judo allows you to defensively throw someone HARD on very hard surfaces while not putting yourself on the ground (or risking yourself slamming to the ground) which in a street fight is very relevant. If it's in a street fight there's rocks, glass, metal, concrete, weapons, people kicking (potentially), animals, etc. that are all major problems. That said, if you have spent time like jocko learning BJJ and spending time studying martial arts, probably 99.9% of the people you encounter that is not a war situation (drunk, criminals, just general jerks) you're going to destroy them lol.

[@Disc0spider]

I took up judo almost 15 years ago as a means to learn self-defence, after I got assaulted by two men. At the time, I was clinically obese and unhealthy. What I found through judo though was not self-defence, but good health, a new found passion for health, fitness and judo (as well as martial arts), and lifelong friends. I received my first degree blackbelt (Shodan) in judo last year, and have been coaching children, teenagers and adults for six years now. I honestly do not know if judo can be effectively used for self-defence. I took up judo to learn self-defence, but in the last 15 years, I have never found myself in a situation of violence. I do know that a lot of judo clubs claim that they offer "self-defence" as a selling point to their club, but the truth is, they often don't. Judo is usually taught as a sport, with rules, and they teach their techniques within the boundaries of the sport. If a judo club was to actually offer self-defence, I believe they should have a curriculum catered to self-defence, as well as independent training sessions in the week that are catered to self-defence. I think judo is a good martial art, though. Judo is, like Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) and mixed martial arts (MMA), a competitive combat sport, so there is a lot of training that goes toward cardiovascular conditioning, as well as sparring (or in judo, 'randori', which means free practice). Grappling with another human-being who is trying to throw you, while you are trying to throw them, and neither one of you wants to be thrown, is quite challenging, whether it's tachi-waza (standing techniques) and/or ne-waza (groundwork). So, it's not quite 'real fighting' but I think it is a realistic application of grappling and wrestling with another human-being who is in a sense, trying to cause 'harm' to you (in a training environment, your training partner(s) won't or shouldn't be trying to 'hurt' you, but would be at least trying to be successful with their techniques against you). I do believe judo offers some incredibly practical skills for self-defence, though. Skills such as ukemi (translating to 'receiving of body'), basically breakfalls, learning how to fall over without harm, and/or learning how to be taken to the ground and minimizing as much damage as possible. I also believe that judo's ne-waza is quite explosive, and could be handy to help someone learn how to escape a ground situation and return to standing (to run away, or something). Admittingly, I should probably learn a proper striking art, like boxing, but I have tried to look into local boxing clubs and find that they generally operate on the same nights I am at judo, and I can't do that, because I am also a judo coach... but I guess in fairness, I have been lucky that these past 15 years, I have never been involved in a physical, violent confrontation. Part of self-defence is, in my opinion, awareness. Things such as where not to go, locations of exit(s) and an escape route, obstacles toward an exit, people who might be able to help (security, police, friends), as well as people in general... paying attention to their body language, tone of voice, choice of dialog, distance between you and them, if they have friends nearby etc.

[@josephmay447]

The distance management statement is very true, I am a mixed martial artist (karate wu-shu and silat) and I have found that the ability to maintain your ideal distance away from the opponent is crucially effective in a fight. Double legged takedowns are avoidable if you think fast enough to keep up with your reflexes.

[@memegazer]

Being able to manage distance is nice...but it is not always a luxury you will have. Best is to not rule out the possibility that the fight will not always be on your terms.

[@josephmay447]

Well said! 😎

[@Bourne862]

Pretty interesting. I have often heared that you should end a street fight quickly (maybe with a preventive strike) and that you should never go to the ground, because one idiot often doesn´t come alone, so while you put the "attacker" to the ground, another guy (maybe a friend of the attacker) kicks you to the head. Beside that I agree with what he said about Jiu Jutsu.

[@kozakmw88]

The reality is that every martial art is a tool that has functionality and applications that work best in certain situations. A hammer, screw driver and knife will be able to be utilized in different ways but effectiveness comes down to the quality of the tool and knowledge of how to apply it. Having a comprehensive knowledge gives you broad spectrum of skills and how to apply them. This is how you find out your own style and become formless as Bruce Lee spoke of. A painting is not defined by a single color so why should your own form of self expression through martial arts. Let me know if you see it it different 🤝🏻👍🏻

[@dimonwhite02]

Big issues with many self defence systems like Krav is that they bank on you facing someone who a) isn’t anticipating your attack b) doesn’t know how to fight Go do martial sports and build your foundation of grappling and striking SKILLS, and develop physical CAPABILITIES. Then do Krav Maga and etc to add some spicy groin kicks to your toolbox. No point knowing groin kicks if something as simple as their stance offsets your entire game.

[@Hamasvard_University]

Yes, I agree. I just started learning unarmed combat. I am doing : Krav Maga + Muy Thai

[@karnazacss]

For me the main objective in self defense is having a high takedown defense to try to stop someone smashing my bones and brain in hard concrete. So, wrestling/jiujitsu BUT being strong, explosive and muscular first by working out. Because this is the most devastating thing that commonly occurs in a fight. Sadly, weight matters, a lot. Secondly, try to be hard so be knocked out and, again, smash my brain on hard concrete in my fall to the ground. So boxing is crucial aswell.

[@lmk2869]

Absolutely. Taking down a legit judo BB is probably one of the hardest opponents to also IMO

[@johnstephens2997]

You're right. A small man well trained in a martial art can defeat a big man -- if the big man isn't equally skilled in the same art.

[@trujilloroldancarlosarturo4281]

for that reason i would choose wrestling in first place, u get jacked af and have all the things that u mentioned, then i would go for boxing and bjj, i even would say muay thai but not all the people have access to this, even wrestling and bjj is hard to find, for that reason in a lot of places boxing is the unique defense system for a lot of people

[@Bawks_FEET]

@@trujilloroldancarlosarturo4281 I finally found boxing and bjj literally side by side from each other but 100% agree just 6 months to a year of wrestling will make u wayyyy stronger and much harder to take down

[@trujilloroldancarlosarturo4281]

@@Bawks_FEET and the thing that i dont like from bjj is pulling guard, i think that is most importante to know how to defend takedowns or throws and being in the dominant position, submission are dangerous too but i u have to fight, u have to fight

[@doddood5516]

I think what he meant by traditional karate is okinawan karate, where it is much more close range and includes quite a bit of grappling before they spread it to japan and simplified it to just striking in orfer to teach larger classes

[@vfries2]

My 6 years of martial arts training had taught me, the best defense against grapple and strikes. "No be There"

[@HeartlessKnave]

Exactly his point at the end, train for it all. I train in h2h the most of any one thing and take all my training seriously. But I take any practical weapons training most seriously, namely defensively against knives, and most serious at the top of it all ANYTHING firearms related. Regardless of owning/having access to the actual firearms or not.

[@ketanvision7953]

Pulling basic techniques from sticking and grappling is good to know. Never know if you’ll be standing up or on the ground.

[@hootiehootheblowphish4109]

I'll say it again. Ameri-Do-Te. Have Master Ken on the podcast.

[@jeffsstt]

Echo looks next level solid in this one.

[@thomasholte1828]

Thank you for this.

[@marcelotorres8640]

When Jocko was born they gave him his black belt.

[@MrTeko75]

I'm sure Jocko would appreciate your statement about how he was just handed everything to him when he was born and did not really work for anything.

[@msh-sz1li]

@@MrTeko75 it's just a joke g don't get your panties twisted

[@LTCAproductions]

Jockos black belt is actually made from his umbilical cord

[@incorectulpolitic]

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[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

When the black belt was born, they gave it his jocko strap.

[@shkotayd9749]

The one you can use with real effect in actual combat. Seen people make TKD work, BJJ, boxing, Thai boxing, Kyokushinkai, Savate, and others well. Seen a lot of ppl use them badly too lol.

[@cadecontent6107]

What about Krav?

[@shkotayd9749]

@@cadecontent6107 never met a practitioner of it. I cant comment one way or another. Some ppl feel its quite practical. I dont know at all.

[@cadecontent6107]

@@shkotayd9749 as inexperienced as I am in this department I’ve taken some Krav and from the people Ik that train it as well as teach it it seems to be doing something right Bc it’s a lot of veterans and bjj guys

[@shkotayd9749]

@@cadecontent6107 Real world and full contact sport application reveals all, eventually. I havent seen KM arise in either. it may be a different art for different application altogether, i dont know. But it seems relatively rare and esoteric.

[@shkotayd9749]

@@aris.a2912 Most martial arts have segments that redesigned themselves for competition. I dont see KM having done so successfully in any respect. Even Sambo was designed to be primarily a grappling style used in real world combat. It transitioned readily into sport combat and even MMA for some fighters. Still, again I am largely ignorant of KM. It could be all those things.

[@crazymacedonianboi]

well rounded in my opinion . my strength and aggression and my punch kept me from getting bullied but also got me in trouble before. I’m missing practicing with some tough guys right now . and I couldn’t practice everyday because unlike now I was working the loading dock forty a week. so I’m just constantly trying to do something even if I’m posting crazy comments . haha

[@clementkong8133]

@5:31 “we’re worried about the next 42 seconds of a fight that’s about to happen, not the next three decades of my life where you can see me break down” Jocko summed it up there in terms of the traditional martial arts & MMA competition training methodology and mindset; which is why he didn’t think much about football players getting bashed in the head constantly and potentially get CTE. The other major difference between traditional martial arts & mma (in the context of competing) is that traditional martial arts to their credit also have an emphasis on long term health & longevity (even if there is varying degree of scientific validity) where as mma competition fighters training only concerns themselves with the immediate upcoming fight so which is why it is more common to see traditional martial artist who even in their old age still able to perform where as most of the first generation MMA fighters like the OG football players before them all suffer from traumatic brain injury and are wheelchair ridden or worse. Actually, forget MMA, even in boxing (which is a major fight style MMA fighters love to mix into their MMA), Muhammed Ali towards the latter end of his life wasn’t entirely there.

[@mikoduterte6702]

I’ve done grappling my whole life. Did judo and bjj and am currently wrestling in hs. I did a little bit of karate and am trying to get into a few striking fundamentals lessons

[@seanreed9472]

Add some striking and you ill be well rounded.

[@Supermomo2007]

@@seanreed9472 karate has striking

[@Pistolsmoke24]

3:09 “it’s hard to knock somebody out. Mike Tyson: “Hold my beer you thilly gooth.”

[@TruthSubjective]

Thank you!

[@robertlynn8802]

“One answer is not the answer” is a perfect statement, for an imperfect world. You final statements say it all. You don’t need my affirmation. I just mean to compliment your point.

[@benzo430]

the best style for you, is the style that suits you best.

[@williamflowers9435]

My wife never pays any mind to what I’m watching… except when it’s Jocko. Then she’s suddenly interested 🤨

[@conorfiggs234]

Can you blame her?

[@melaniehopkins4778]

@williamflowers Your point? LOL!

[@BattlefieldSailor]

All I can picture is seeing Jocko on the line in football, waiting for the snap. Staring him down face-to-face, realizing the whole plan was to throw punches. You’ve got a few feet and a few punches then you’re on the ground anyway. What if you get nervous/intimidated last moment? What if he’s already within striking distance? Shorter, taller, etc.? Put it into practice, and test your plan! Sure going full speed with karate kicks will wear down someone in practice, and cause injuries, but don’t let it be the only plan or rely on it being 100% successful, 100% of the time.

[@JaredUnashamed]

Love it. I've been training in Taekwondo for 2 years with my boys. We train in some basic self defense moves. If someone is punching at your face what do you do sort of thing. Any martial art should teach you to defend yourself and get distance from your attacker. Don't get hit don't get put on the floor. My association of Taekwondo does have some Gracie Jujitsu instructors but none close to me. Either way my boys don't like to spar but I push them to learn what it's like to get kicked or punch and defend yourself. I live in a rural area and take what I can get some day I'd love to train in a different martial art. Most people won't be disciplined enough to stick with one martial art to it's highest level let alone start at the bottom of another. Take care, great discussion.

[@seanreed9472]

If you are rural it is very possible you have access to wrestling.

[@omispirit7899]

Awesome ❤

[@superdrew8564]

I did many years of Karate, and there was some basic ground fighting, submissions, etc...but nothing on the level of BJJ. Once upon a time, Karate did have grappling.

[@chrishooper8260]

Did you ever think a lot of what you see elsewhere maybe came from traditional karate. Think about it.

[@Casualgaming93371]

Gracie student through and through and I highly recommend to start there for self defense than move on and learn striking and hand gun basics etc!

[@seanbailey8545]

Biggest downside I find with bjj/grappling in general is. If there is more than one person attacking you...the last place you want to be is on the floor.

[@Herbgrundy]

Follow up question. Where do you see CQD fitting in and is it effective when matched against other martial arts?

[@vinn995]

Jocko is correct in that it is hard to knock someone out with a hit to the head. Professional boxers that have demonstrated the ability to knock an opponent out with one well landed punch, like Mike Tyson or Thomas Hearns to name a couple, is considered a high achievement, a highly developed skill in professional boxing. That is why they are referred to as “knockout artists”. Also their ability is so highly developed that they can not only choose their timing for a knockout but they land the knockout punch right where it will do the most damage with the intended results, and if you watch carefully you’ll see that most knockout punches land in the face or on the jaw or square on the chin. Hooks to the temple can achieve dramatic knockouts. But if you watch in professional boxing, and lets admit that professional boxers are quite possibly the most effective punchers, many boxers receive very hard punches to the head (cranium) and continue to fight. As Tyson said many times “Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face.” Notice he didn’t say head.

[@MartinJutras]

For me its 85% standing (mostly striking) and 15% grappling (not to become a grappler, but being proficient at protecting myself on the ground, sweeping, flipping and standing back up).

[@chrishooper8260]

Correct old mate. A lot of what these people say is quite silly. JJ self defence. I don't think so.

[@MrGunwitch]

Exactly, look at Chuck Liddell or Francis Ngannou. If you’re a good striker and have some basic takedown defence and grappling, you’re golden.

[@tonyvannelli1920]

I used to think I was a bad-ass karate practitioner, until I went to my first Judo class...

[@khalil4835]

Try kyokushin you I'll become a bad ass

[@savvasperisanidis]

I had the same experience at a Greco Roman wrestling school.

[@b.28]

Yepp, same experience loll

[@savvasperisanidis]

@@khalil4835how many years u being practising bad-ass ?

[@yourworstnightmareramkaw6301]

I have done karate for some years when I tried to go to a grappling art and when I tried striking their groin or poke their eyes like they taught me in karate they said that it's not allowed, so in my opinion karate is much more bad ass

[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

Striking can lead to double leg and single leg takedowns but I agree grappler seem to have an advantage as always though it's great to be well-rounded

[@dannylampron9879]

Im a Black Belt jiu Jitsu and karate. Ive done some intense years of kick boxing... And I think the best martial art is a combination of striking and ground game. Toi should be good standing and good on the ground too

[@darinmoore7978]

Short-sighted perspective. I served in Recon. Trained in whats now known as MMA since I was 5. I love BJJ. Rolling is a lot like Chi Sao. I like the UFC especially 1&2. Jocko, wake up to the fact that BJJ doesn't actively guard against punches on the ground (excluding combat BJJ). Most BJJ fighters are totally obvious to how exposed they are to strikes while rolling. A huge amount of situations in BJJ are absolutely a death sentence in a real fight. Even UFC style MMA isn't that impressive considering there is over 27 rules on attacks you cant perform in the octagon. You fight as you train? Yes, I do believe I've heard that somewhere. And all of those 27 violations are things you should be doing as a primary in a real time situation. They make the difference between who lives and who dies. Jocko, how about grappling in a bar? Or on the streets when your head hits a pole or a curb? Its over, nice going BJJ. Also, when in real life are you fighting against just one person? Oh, good idea... lets roll on the ground while his buddies just honorably watch and let two men battle it out. In combat you stay away from grappling. Period! A lot of what you are saying is great for the ring but not great for a world without tap out’s and ref’s. The ring is not combat and you know better, Team Guy. You are so in love with BJJ and the ring that you have lost sight of reality. War doesn't happen on a nice mat or ring. BJJ is great... but its a sport. A sport with limitations. Those limitations in a very simple way will be used against you. Keep that in mind.

[@richardfreitag2962]

I train Brazilian jujitsu under a Relson Gracies school. First thing I learned was distance management and how to deal with taking someone to the ground and not getting hit. Nowadays in BJJ schools they don’t teach any of that is just pure rolling with no strikes. It is such a disservice when they do that

[@seanbailey8545]

Not to piss on your bonfire, but in a street fight..your gonna get hit on the way in,if your grappling.

[@GIGA_TACTICAL_BOI]

@@seanbailey8545 Yep...

[@jimmccormack8479]

Such a Great explanation

[@waltercrigler6732]

Great interview

[@MELODIOUSDHARMASOUND]

“Not Flowers bloom to Show you Beauty!It blooms because it's her nature. So you are kind and happy.” - Peace ~ Thutop Tulachan

[@stenduginski2306]

Been doing Muay Thai for awhile and Im looking at learning some grappling (besides the muay thai clinch that is). Im considering Judo

[@scarzandy436]

I chose the wrestling route to understand grappling our world is very different from there’s

[@scarzandy436]

@RumiNation FOR SURE

[@chewy7062]

Judo with wrestling or bjj will make you a monster

[@treykashflow6183]

Put it like this all striking and grappling is a form of martial arts and the more mix of martial arts the better. All styles mixed together you can come up with your own style. I just started jujitsu (love it) but I'm glad I did boxing first. while I could take the boxer me for a hell of a bad time on the ground already I feel like in a street fight it's better to know boxing because how many fights are really one-on-one in the street? Not all. Jiu jitsu in a street fight you're going to get stomped in the head if multiple attackers, so I think the distance and footwork management of boxing is elite when it comes to protecting yourself in the street. Striking and grappling as a combination is the best sense of confidence and self-defense ability in my opinion.

[@Scotty_Does_Know]

Kenpo 5.0, street fighting with grappling knowledge, taught by the great Jeff Speakman, nuff said!

[@Tehz1359]

It depends on the situation, and your capabilities. I think most people, both trained and untrained, can throw a decent jab and cross. But take kicking for example. Kicking is out of the question if you aren't training for them. Maybe it's just me, but kicking always felt super unnatural to me. But if you are good at kicking, you might as well use it. Know what you're good at, and what you're bad at. As someone who has always been fascinated by martial arts, I can't say I've trained for self-defense, since I do it for fun. But I think that's the majority of the Martial arts community. It's either for fun, of for sport and competition. Actual self-defense training should probably consist of learning how to not be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and be relatively street smart.

[@macIain]

"One answer is not the answer!" 😎👌

[@jakenicholaides3214]

I agree just about, except can the striker have good takedown defence as well even if he's not good once on the ground becuase if you know the guys gonna shoot on you it can be an advantage to be ready and quick to adjust, pivot etc. On avarage it does seem without a rounded game the grappler will have an advantage as long as he knows how to protect his head forehead and top you can take, temple, jaw and ear etc you may not have all your marbles with you once you do close the distance and even a 1 dimensional fighter may out wrestle you if you've got shaken heavily on the way in. I guess the averages favour the ground guy but its very dependent on individuals calibre

[@Mp0wer193]

@ 03:00 depends where u hit the person , at football they don't get hit hundred of times in the chin for example . Chin which is a very sensitive point for everyone , doesn't matter how big or about training ! Learning martial arts are pressure points that you get to know , and if those are hit is game over for anyone !

[@magnesiumoar9644]

Boxing, Muay Thai, Jujitsu, judo, taekwondo and Krav Maga. Get really good at those and combine them, and you'll be almost unstoppable!!!

[@Salman-nn9yh]

You don't need most of those, i would say you need boxing and wrestling to dominate everything, and taekwondo too

[@edge3369]

if you spread yourself to much you don't get good at any, focus on the ones with the best base

[@Theone.fitness]

Only kickboxing.

[@edge3369]

@@Theone.fitness judo and jujitsu are important

[@rb8084]

Capoeira

[@Salman-nn9yh]

I would say boxing and any traditional grappling martial art (bjj, judo, wrestling)

[@johnnybuffon4623]

You have to know/learn some kicking - kickboxing, muay thai, karate

[@triffen7174]

I feel like wresting is the most important because generally the person with the better wresting determines where the fight takes place and helps you control and incompasitate a person on the ground

[@eoncatalyst]

As a beginner Muay Thai practitioner who watched some of the similar videos, I understood that knowing striking martial art is like bringing a sword/axe/mace on a battlefield, and knowing wrestling martial art is like bringing a shield. A mighty sword can do a lot of damage to an enemy, but you better have a mighty shield in addition to your sword.

[@exiledmonastic4650]

that's a great image

[@eoncatalyst]

@@exiledmonastic4650 thanks!

[@zvirab1840]

I do jitsu and Krav Maga great combo

[@prometheus6853]

Does Krav Maga work?

[@edge3369]

@@prometheus6853 no

[@everythingsfine1395]

@@prometheus6853 But bjj definitely works

[@Fouge642]

@@prometheus6853 yes Krav works well. It's all the moves that you can't use in MMA. Knowing both is a deadly combo.

[@paulcanchola6377]

I have a great love and passion for American Kenpo, Krav Maga, Russian Sistema and even Ninjutsu. I also have to add Aikido, and as a former member of US Army special forces that served with both 10th group and 19th group, I have utilized these arts in combat and I have to say that despite what mini real world operators say, I disagree and say that they in fact do work. However, there is an absolute difference between real world combat, self-defense and competition. Competition is usually involving two willing participants in a one on one scenario in a controlled environment where self-defense and combat are unscripted and unplanned and can happen anywhere. The other thing that I have to say is that I have never utilized any single one of these martial arts independently in real world situations. When I have had to go hands-on, what I’ve used has always been an a cumulative effort based on all of the arts I have trained in so it isn’t like I used aikido until it failed then switched to Kenpo or Krav Maga or Donna Kenpo technique on this guy a Krav Maga technique on that guy and then on a keto technique on this guy over here. I’ve used tempo speed striking in the midst of doing an aikido like throw while doing more of a Krav Maga style kicked one of the legs that was still on the ground to ensure that the throw was going to work. The resulting event wouldn’t really look like any one of those arts. Almost in the spirit of MMA, where people like to compare traditional martial arts against it, MMA by its very definition is a mix of things and it’s unfair to hold the other practitioner to just a single art or system. The techniques, concepts and principles that have saved my life in the past are ones that may come from slightly more classical or traditional lysed systems, with the exception of American Kenpo being a little bit more modern and self defense oriented, Krav Maga as well, my resulting methodology tends to be a mix of all of these as well as other things I’ve picked up throughout my years such as a little crash training in MCMAP, as well as other things while serving with 10th SFGA. I’ve heard a lot of people bash Aikido, Kenpo and Ninjutsu due to them not being proven in the ring even though the first couple of UFC winners were Kenpo people. But the competitive ring always will be different than a combat or street defense oriented training system which is taught to use a lot of things not legal in the ring. Kenpo especially was thought to be extremely violent because of the fact that no target is off-limits. Lots of people bash aikido saying that it would never work in the ring, and since it’s not geared to be a competitive art, they’re technically correct in that aspect but a lot of MMA fighters have since come out and say that aikido actually is part of their repertoire and its principles often contribute to them evading an incoming attack and setting themselves up for a rapid counterattack. For any martial arts system geared towards combat survival and Street self defense to be utilized in the ring, it Hass to be dumbed down to the point where some of its most effective tools end up getting stripped away. The problem with competitive martial arts is that when grappling, striking seems to be off-limits and when striking, grappling seems to be off-limits and the reality of real world Combat weather in self-defense or on a battlefield is that both will happen simultaneously and going to the ground on purpose is generally a bad idea in real world combat. The Japanese approach to jujitsu where they’ll take the opponent down without going down themselves or if they get taken down, maim and destroy the opponent and get back to your feet as quickly as possible contains within at a more battlefield appropriate strategy than the Brazilian Art of going to the ground on purpose with the opponent. My real world experience has stopped grapplers with striking, stop strikers with grappling but I strike when I grapple and I grapple when I strike so I’m never doing one skill isolated outside of the other.

[@farrkg9]

Jocko for President. Make it happen Willink!

[@keyboardbeats]

Jocko is awesome!

[@Sandwhich111]

Jocko- how do you know how many hits a brain can tolerate before real damage is done? Thank you for your service.

[@dannyclapper8319]

It is not about the martial art, it is about the martial artist.

[@thelostshadowofhanzo]

If you fight someone who spars with being hit in the head and body, then I agree it will be very difficult to knock them out. But if you get in a fight with someone who does not train at all or never spars with being hit with any kind of force, then a KO is more likely. Watch any street fight video, there are loads of people being KO'd with one punch, or a couple punches. If someone has trained their body (ie neck muscles) then that reduces the likely hood of a KO. So I agree with him in one case, but to fight an average Joe on the street even if they go for a take down, a hard punch, knee or kick can and will stop them in their tracks. I do completely agree that if you want to be a well rounded fighter then definitely train for stand up as well as take down and ground fighting. But everyone one will tend to use that style speaks to them most, or what you trained first sometimes.

[@erikhawk8437]

If I will start with anything it would be JJ, Karate, Muai Thai or Silat. I would also mix striking and grapping to cover up both situations. I was not aware how easy it is to tackle someone down and now you are getting the beating of your life. Crazy. Very informative video.

[@user-xp4ov5od8t]

Judo, kickboxing and BJJ

[@ajg9937]

In terms of self defence on the streets boxing is definitely the most versatile and applicable in most situations. And I've done some Jiu Jitsu.

[@MrMaksuz]

i would say wrestling/bjj or muay thai

[@brendanbosma2773]

I took traditional Karate. My sensei always said it was always who was the better fighter. You have to know the ground game and the standing game. Basically what you said in other words. Thus where ever you train don’t forget to be critical and well rounded.

[@zombieatdt1230]

Funny thing if you look the old treatises about European martial arts from medieval and renaissance period. The time when close quarter fighting was mastered by soldiers and in self-defense. Most of the old manuscripts will start with wresting followed by dagger techniques and after them discussing moves to the longer weapons (swords, pollaxes, spears etc). They don't have boxing. But base to all combat, during those periods, is wrestling. And everyone can be armed at least with dagger and maybe sword.

[@geoffcoombs2058]

Great assessment by jocko

[@dirtyolbugger]

He says... Learn how to shoot a gun... gold.