Joe Biden's Sweeping Pardon for Hunter Biden Sparks Outrage

[@hollandrocha2586]

Tommy: "People care about corruption." Our country just reelected Donald Trump. People simply do not care about corruption. This conversation was so stupid. Get over yourselves.

[@Dac85]

I nearly collapsed out of my chair laughing like the Joker when I heard that come out of his mouth. Holy shit.

[@priscillamarsh4623]

You have a point

[@Fabulash815]

Literally. A convicted felon is president-elect. People do not care about corruption, clearly.

[@scarletsletter4466]

😂 we can’t run on being the party of “defending the integrity of institutions & our democracy” while giving the broadest pardon in history to a family member. If you’re cool with this, you’re part of the problem

[@LaPollaAtomica]

​@@scarletsletter4466Maybe we shouldn't be allowing entire media bubbles to drag family members doing non-political things through the mud as a way of attacking a political opponent either?

[@priscillamarsh4623]

Joe Biden has nothing to lose at this point by pardoning his son. I don’t blame him. Trump has done and will do way worse. Yes, this may be a low bar, but that’s where we are today.

[@JessU892]

My feelings exactly🫤

[@pyrothem]

HE has nothing to lose but dragging down the chances of Democrats ever clawing back into power is what this does. Just like his Ego for running again. Enjoy over a Decade of Trumpist in power. If you think you are ever going to win a 'they both do it' argument against the GOP you have the madness.

[@deidentified]

Joe Biden doesn’t lose, the Democratic Party does. As Biden shuffles out the door in shame he just had to land one final fuck you to every democrat who ever cared about corruption in government.

[@floridamanrides863]

But Trump doesn’t excuse Ds to do whatever they want.

[@paulj8539]

Dems trying to adhere to the rules and norms and civil behaviour is part of the reason Trump has skated accountability and is headed back to the Whitehouse. it's like using formal boxing rules in a bar fight... it only works if you rorally outclass the other guy, and he doesn't want to kill or maim you.

[@hostile7teen]

I had to shut this off after ten minutes. Stop taking the moral high ground here. We are stuck in an era of politics that doesn't exist anymore. Get with the times, PSA.

[@snowy1634]

I have rarely been watching these podcasts all the way thru. These guys are completely out of touch with reality.

[@LancerThomas]

Whole heartedly agree. One of the few episodes I shut off after screaming at my phone.

[@Aekbonita1986]

I Usually watch their full videos, but this one irritated me. I don’t know about them, but I’m sure a lot of people would do the same. President Joe Biden is getting older and I’m sure his son comes before his reputation 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@robotsongs]

The double standards being applied to coverage of Biden and Trump are so goddamn sickening. FROM THEIR OWN SIDE! it's insane.

[@TVwatcher0217]

@@hostile7teen it was hard to watch. Suddenly these guys seemed so out of touch.

[@Anne3000]

Maybe Biden wasn’t going to pardon him, but with all the new picks, he thought no way was he going to throw his son to the wolves.

[@LG-rw6zf]

@@Anne3000 You might be on to something.

[@talkingmudcrab718]

So much for the party of "no one above the law" and "return to normalcy." Yall BlueAnons are 🤡 world. Own it.

[@irenafarm]

The pardon allows his son to join the family in exile if it comes to that. Joe Biden, our _current President_ is 100% making contigency arrangements. To flee from our _President-Elect._ Cause that's a thing now, I guess.

[@trese2764]

Agreed

[@GandalfsPipe]

Maybe Hunter Biden shouldn’t have broken the law. He’s been getting get out of jail free all his fucking life. I know ppl who are stuck in prison for years for crack, should they all have at least 5% of the chances Hunter gets from daddy

[@MelanieFuller-ee2zf]

I love that he pardoned his son. I'm so sick and tired of the double standard bull. The right wingers are always going to say this crap no matter what he would do.

[@Listman11]

😂

[@fredschnerbert1238]

*Ha Ha, nope, he lied, Democrat's always lie, Look at Menedez, Cuellar....* *WHAT? Menedez was convicted as working for a foreign agent without filing the paperwork?* *GEE, wasn't that what HUNTER was doing ALSO, back in 2014-2016?*

[@ventrust7507]

All presidents are allowed to pardon. I thought Hunter paid the taxes and fines and went successfully thru drug rehabs and he certainly has been humiliated. The republican threats seem to not be idle threats. They have been screaming about Hunter for a long time. I think when Biden said he wouldn’t pardon was under different circumstances. It’s a big waste of resources to spend more time on Hunter. I felt justice has been served. I would like to see many more people pardoned.

[@vinathamadhavan7019]

Not all of it. Merrick deliberately let the statutes of limitations expire for the years 2014-17, the period when he made the most money. He also got away with FARA violations.

[@vinathamadhavan7019]

Hunter got away not paying taxes between 2014-17 when he made the most money because Merrick deliberately let the statutes of limitations expire. He also got away with FARA violations which sent several Republicans to prison.

[@blackbankai16]

So much for the party of the rule of law, ha

[@MichealHallowell]

@@blackbankai16 The law is Presidents have pardon power

[@ventrust7507]

@@blackbankai16 we could go on and on and troll each other Small government right Ha!

[@ReneeKlaus-bd3cy]

I am thrilled beyond words that he pardoned Hunter! Trump in power is exactly why he did this.

[@sjpuck48]

And made it retroactive to 2014 so the Repubs can’t make trumped (no pun intended) up charges because of the statute of limitations. Great move on Joe’s part!

[@LePlerome]

Hunter worked for the Putinists/Russians, in Ukraine (for a top lieutenant of Putin ally Yanukovych, to be precise) after Russia invaded it in 2014, and as Obama & Biden failed to arm it so it could defend itself...

[@Horus070]

Why? We knew Trump was already pardoning HIS PEOPLE. I just hope Biden just pardoning ONLY his SON … now that would be a dick move when we know there chance Trump might go after all the lawyers that went after him

[@Wesselmania]

You coming off as a Democrat cult member

[@michaelcoates9943]

I have typed this phrase into every comment field of every podcast for the last couple days. Hunter was a pawn and nothing more. There is zero value in our trying to deconstruct this .. rather we should let the other side tear themselves apart.

[@enriqueperalta6059]

If you play right a pawn becomes a Queen. Biden just moved Trump's pawn into that last row for him. Was the black vote shaky? It is going to go away after this.

[@unscomlv]

Looks like Joe did that already. Enjoy the next 4 years

[@IndigoBellyDance]

@@michaelcoates9943 Hunter Biden was a spoiled nepo baby his whole life. He got big paycheck jobs he was unqualified for Only because of his daddy. Daddy Biden would get his son out of trouble . Hunter Biden Chose to break the law. The laws do not apply to rich & powerful. If u or I broke the law we would have to pay the price. Hunter Biden son of the President broke the law & gets his daddy to pardon him. Hunter Biden is a rich spoiled nepo baby who will pay no consequences

[@blakebrown534]

1000% agree. We are legitimizing their political hit job by arguing about this like it's two sides in a good faith debate.

[@Cancun771]

Those who _still_ believe the narrative that it was simply "not possible" to *hold ANY of the Jan 6 ringleaders accountable* within four years until the next election rolled around, are just as brainwashed as any Qanon supporter.

[@oldgirlgamerchristine7584]

I don't think he lied. I fully believe he absolutely meant what he said at the time. I think circumstances changed and he changed his mind based on those new circumstances.

[@voiceforchangecommunitycho9084]

Agree 💯!!!

[@MrBsbotto]

Absolutely!

[@plumbus813]

I'm not pissing all over you, it's raining

[@kayess2634]

Yup - among other reasons there’s still some residual rage there at having been talked out of running again - I think he got to “WTF”

[@BM-wh5qk]

Wait, so Dems were not saying Trump was going to go after Hunter during the election? Seriously?

[@PàtMÀrtinez-e7i]

We change our minds all the time. Be flexible and nonjudgmental guys

[@wandajordanwanda6223]

I’m disappointed that it has come to this. It’s terrible that we, their viewership, has to come forward with “the right thing” when they have a program for that very premise. I’m saddened

[@shrimuyopa8117]

How many times have we heard you guys say that the rich need to pay their fair share? How many times have you guys screamed at the top of your lungs for "reasonable" gun control to make our streets safer? How many times have you guys come out and said that toxic men who hurt women need to be held accountable? Yet when you have the perfect opportunity to hold such an individual accountable, you back track on that? You can't say he didn't try to avoid paying taxes on millions of dollars in earned income (the bank statements prove it), you can't say he didn't buy a gun illegally (he admitted to this in multiple venues), and you can't say that he didn't abuse women because there is a few laptops out there with an infinite number of videos of him doing it. Do you have ANY principles? Calling you hypocrites would be insulting to hypocrites, you are on a whole new level, never before seen of cognitive dissonance.

[@jeremyd6775]

I am sick and tired of being the party of the highest moral standards going against the party of no standards. Hunter got railroaded and needed to be pardoned

[@RM-ru3fk]

Then the Dems shouldn’t claim to be that. But they do.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

I think that it was a pre emptive pardon to keep Trump and Cash from fulfilling their promises to go after them harder.

[@ashwinkanand4952]

Then why y'all make your arguments sitting on your high horse?

[@Chudchannel3]

lol you think the Democratic Party has morals hahahahagagah insane

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Bingo. Glad you see straight amongst the lunacy

[@maggiereeder7121]

I agree with Jon Lovett. With a convicted felon on his way into the WH, what norms exist? I, too, hope he offers preemptive pardons to all those who've been targeted. People's faith in the Justice system? The Supreme Court took care of that. I'm thrilled he pardoned Hunter.

[@yarrrthekraken]

Based.

[@yumapigfarmer]

"Targeted" by the Biden administration Justice Department? Hunter was pardoned because he is guilty of a long list of crimes, obviously, and his father doesn't want him to be accountable. Not the best parenting for a 50+ year old child.

[@BallparkFranks7]

I honestly don’t care either, but I’m not sure about preemptive pardons. Isn’t that just legitimizing their claims that crimes were committed? I mean, if you don’t do it they’re vulnerable too, and we know they’ll just make shit up, but do we want Biden to preemptively legitimize their claims? This whole thing is kind of a lose/lose. When everyone was asking Trump for pardons, we all said “why do you need a pardon if you didn’t do anything wrong?”, and I think a lot of people would have the same reaction here.

[@trese2764]

I totally agree, well said.

[@irenafarm]

The other people who Trump has said he's targeting, have the ability to flee out of reach. They don't need pardons. Hunter was particularly in danger because his conviction prevented him from leaving the country.

[@shawnaaddy2302]

You go from such anger over the pardon to laughing about freaks Trump nominated. Get real

[@alexhanna2445]

You're exactly right and this is the most unserious part of the whole episode. These guys got rich in the dem establishment and laugh off dangerous Trump moves for jokes while ranting about rules and institutions while the American people get played

[@naylas3908]

@@alexhanna2445, rich? You’ve got to be kidding me.

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

@@naylas3908 all of the PSA members are millionaires.

[@leilap2495]

I don’t see the pardon of his son as hypocritical. The situation has greatly changed. He can change his mind based on changing circumstances.

[@zivronen9539]

True, but as always in the last year or so, even when he does good things they are so poorly communicated.

[@zivronen9539]

But also, it really isn't important. Biden won't be the president in two months, Biden actions are not representative of all democrats, and even if he didn't make the pardon the Republican will just invent something to be mad about.

[@VB-oq3wp]

I don't condone the pardon but I can understand why he did it. The rule of law is a joke in this country so he's like fuck it why should my son dragged through this when full blown criminals and conmen are running the government?

[@CyndeLooWho]

Of course you don’t! He’s on the left so all you have to say is “but Trump.”

[@Mike-dn7ut]

Nothing changed- wake up

[@user-kp7bi1ug9e]

I'm glad he pardoned Hunter. The only people outraged are media elites.

[@orthenight]

literally nobody cares, only talking heads. no one is talking about this in real life. they had cnn on at the gym and everybody was asking for them to put on espn like people are so sick of this conversation.

[@lukedixon2938]

PSA says Biden lied, but changing your mind isn’t lying and they didn’t prove otherwise.

[@Pinpadprompts]

Feel like you should step outside of your little bubble if this is what you think.

[@user-kp7bi1ug9e]

@@Pinpadprompts I could easily say the same to you. The only people making hay over this are conservatives who rage against everything democrats do and sanctimonious liberals like the pod bros. No one is actually "outraged". Point me to the outrage. Moron.

[@AM-fs1je]

And magats.

[@luxeydaze]

Joe Biden did not destroy his reputation by pardoning Hunter. I respect him a lot more for changing his mind and pardoning him.

[@Chzydawg]

Of course not, that ship sailed decades ago. Supported the war in Iraq and even more recently continued to give huge ordnance to Israel, that was totally not used on city blocks in Gaza (wink,wink). Had no reputation left.

[@bonanimathambo8721]

Respect him more for giving his son special treatment and putting him above the law?

[@audreyweeeeyaya]

Respect him more for being a liar who believes the law shouldn't apply to his family😂

[@sc2performance]

Loooooooool

[@floridamanrides863]

The most sweeping pardon in American history doesn’t make you think twice nothing ever will. Blue to the end.

[@KingMapleSeed]

Nobody would have cared or gave Biden any credit for not pardoning his son. Norms don’t matter if only one side plays by the rules, no need to handicap ourselves when republicans would never. Good on Joe

[@AZbluedot196]

100% Agree!

[@adrianbundy3249]

Okay, not a problem. Just so people know how stupid y'all sounded when "but we wouldn't resort to that ourselves we respect the rule of law and nothing is political in trials" was back then. So long as your change of tune shows genuine understanding of better change in thinking.

[@LiamATL007]

“No one is above the law” yall are so full of shit

[@xentakis]

Except pardoning Hunter Biden doesn't help anyone but the Biden family. I would agree with your argument about not handicapping ourselves if Biden did this for a cause that would help regular people. Instead Biden just used it to do a favor for his son, once again making this about himself and his ego. I'm done with defending him and his legacy, and hopefully we’ll get a real leader who can move us out of this mess.

[@AZbluedot196]

@@LiamATL007 The Supreme Court made that decision.

[@blakebrown534]

This is a ridiculous exercise. Stop giving Republican grievance air by debating it like it's an issue anyone should give a damn about. NOBODY GETS CHARGED WITH WHAT THEY CHARGED HUNTER WITH. The end.

[@sky1watcher243]

This !!!

[@pastasauceAYya]

ONE MILLION TIMES THIS!! 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

[@philipcoggins9512]

Hunter Biden should have never been charged with a gun crime he was convicted of because you shouldn't have to surrender your 5th Amendment rights to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights. That "crime" is entirely unconstitutional, just like every other gun law.

[@morgenmuffel5747]

Only problem here is that you are wrong. Thousands upon thousands of people are prosecuted for federal tax crimes of exactly the same type as those committed by Hunter. The difference is that those whose last name is not Biden actually served their time. They had no daddy to completely pervert the course of justice to save them

[@joangorman-b6r]

Exactly. Sick of PSA taking part in the outrage machine. Sanctimonious BS.

[@katharinerussell2361]

Please stop riding the moral high ground. This pardon is understandable considering the circumstances. NOBODY is upset about this aside from media elites and republicans. Great company!

[@ireneamoako4071]

Never thought that taking the morally sound path would be considered a bad decision

[@patriciapetersen2015]

Actually no one on the street is even talking about this - not at coffee shops - parks movies- no one cares who he pardons . only the media cares . this is why networks are done and so will you if you don’t relate

[@MsKimG]

If I held the highest office in the world and a rebel mob was after my child & I have the ability to protect, I certainly would and so would you

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Sheep

[@scarletsletter4466]

Yea, but you would’ve done it years ago. You wouldn’t do it now, & you wouldn’t do a huge blanket pardon that’s literally broader than the Nixon pardon. This is meant to prevent investigation of Biden himself

[@garrettbaratheon567]

“Rebel mob” do you guys hear yourselves?

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

@@theroamingsavage8813 Your comment doesn't make sense. How is protecting your children being a "sheep?" Commenting random words is pointless.

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

@@garrettbaratheon567 Hunter Biden would have died in jail under Trump and you know it.

[@2100anders]

Hey guys, come down of the high horses! Trump will pardon all he wants anyway and GOP will be angry in any way! It makes absolutely no difference.

[@Thisissodumb1776]

Exactly, only one team thinks there are rules. America doesn't actually care about corruption. Even if he took money and is covering his tracks it's a FRACTION of what trump scammed and it DIDN'T MATTER!!

[@macro8236]

Right but aren't you guys suppose to be the anti-trump ? What is the point of supporting liberals when they are just Trump -lite

[@devonteleggett3353]

Man, whatever happened to principles in this country

[@enriqueperalta6059]

Biden's legislative record is what makes this a travesty. Look it up, what would Joe do to someone with Hunter's criminal history if he wasn't Joe's son?

[@Chzydawg]

Yeah, Trump is a POS, he was always going to abuse the rights of the president. Biden made dozens of people lie on his behalf, most of them will still be in the political game after he retires, those people are forever tainted by this. It's a dick move. Fair enough that he did it, but he was on the high horse about it all, spurting crap about everyone being equal under the law. It leaves egg on the faces of a lot of people that don't deserve it. It's also very cringey, if Hunter was 17 or 18, fair enough, kid has his whole life ahead of him and doesn't need that...Hunter is 54 years old. That's just sad, the guy is a stuff up. 11 year pardon as well, like, that's raising a few eyebrows too, quite a specific number.

[@rosee8911]

Don't f**king care he pardoned his son! How about not having a felon as a president?

[@gabriellemartin9794]

NOW you're talking......unbelievable, that that is tge case. Let's see the judge now ACTUALLY SENTENCE him to prison. The actual and warranted punishment...Cohen went. And, then postpone it....just to confirm that there us NI justice in America

[@LePlerome]

are u aware of the fact that Hunter worked for the Putinists/Russians, in Ukraine (for a top lieutenant of Putin ally Yanukovych, to be precise) after Russia invaded it in 2014, and as Obama & Biden failed to arm it so it could defend itself...?

[@Wesselmania]

Well according to Biden he says the DOJ/justice system has been politicized, so Trump can say the same now

[@floridamanrides863]

What’s the felony Trump is convinced of?

[@denisej2937]

Absolutely! Orange man is a career criminal yet he wants to “deport criminals” smh

[@mattburgess5697]

Counterpoint: fuck it. The system is clearly broken and it’s BS that only one side gives a damn about rules and norms anymore.

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Omg 😂 Yes! I’m not a rule breaker by nature but COME ON! The Dems are ones if they do, damned if they don’t, so I say: do!

[@californiaslastgasp6847]

So you’re a nihilist?

[@vilmariealcaraz]

That’s exactly what I thought. Fuck it! They get to break the rules with impunity and who cares if it ruins Biden’s reputation out the door, he’s never running again

[@SuperAwesomeBlair]

@@californiaslastgasp6847 or a realist.

[@pedrostormrage]

That's a point Jon Stewart has brought up recently (laws have loopholes, and norms are not binding), and it really seems to resonate with a lot of people. If you're following the rules of the game but the other players aren't, you might think that gives you some credit (and ideally it should), but in practice that just makes you a pushover. Favreau also pointed out that lesson at 15:56 : "we have learned, over the last 8 years now, if something is a norm and it's important, maybe make it a law, right, because the norms are gone" (it's not possible to completely eliminate loopholes, but I guess you could at least try to minimize them with clear and concise language).

[@UntoldRelic]

I applaud Biden. I'm glad he used the power he has to pardon on his son. I expected him to.

[@ojalajim]

It proves you don’t live by your values

[@UntoldRelic]

@ojalajim You're from the US. Wtf do YOU know about values? Get off your high horse.

[@andreack9983]

The Hunter outrage is outrageous. Kash Patel as the sheriff did not bode well for Hunter. This is the Keyser Soze moment for Joe. but in a good way. He outshot the bad guys.

[@LePlerome]

fyi, Hunter worked for the Putinists/Russians, in Ukraine (for a top lieutenant of Putin ally Yanukovych, to be precise) after Russia invaded it in 2014, and as Obama & Biden failed to arm it so it could defend itself...

[@b.t.2796]

Skokie

[@fredschnerbert1238]

*Could you imagine Trump just making his brother the head of FBI* *Oh right that was Kennedy and it was his brother at DOJ, which many said he wasn't qualified* *The Democrat's would LET that stand would they?* *Oh they did?*

[@shrimuyopa8117]

You guys are NEVER allowed to cry about people not paying their fair share in taxes, gun control, or toxic men, ever again in your lives!!! This man committed tax fraud on millions of dollars of earned income, he bought a gun illegally, and he has an ungodly amount of videos of him abusing women.

[@somellyful]

Of all the political lies and corruption to be angry about, a father pardoning his son and ensuring a vindictive administration and spiteful MAGAts couldn't come after him doesn't even rank. In fact, this is the most human thing I've seen a politician do in a long time. We can debate the ethics, but to what end? There is plenty to be frustrated with Biden over, but to this I say "Good."

[@alexwyatt2911]

Well said

[@t14dann18]

Stupid take; if the president’s family can just be pardoned for whatever they do, then it’s literally a 2 tiered justice system and there’s no incentive for them to EVER follow the law. It’s so pathetic that anyone would accept this. I won’t support it from Trump and I won’t support it from Biden. What a sad group of partisan hacks you all are

[@alexnutcasio936]

There’s lots of ethics to debate, particularly when he’s lied to the country the past year that he would not pardon him. Shit, KJP continually lied to us daily about no pardon. It’s all about ethics.

[@phenomenal-xv4ey]

This is why conservatives do not believe in big government. This is why the Founding Fathers said that they had to protect the smaller states vs the bigger states because this is the type of corruption that would happen. People stop caring about fairness and only care about their side.

[@fredschnerbert1238]

*Ha Ha, he pardoned himself from Ukraine crime... he hopes*

[@billdickhaus]

He did not lie, he changed his mind. What is wrong with you guys? I would have been upset if he had not pardoned Hunter. Why do you have to eat the shit they are giving out? Just let it go.

[@bryanfarris4696]

So he's been lying for 4 years about Trump being a Nazi fascist who will corrupt the rule of law?

[@LauraMe...]

Yes, what evidence is there that his team knew it was up to change. I think with the changes in the way the is going as well as the hell in the US he did what a good leader does. He used the current information and made a decision based on that.

[@fatimaa3006]

I thought people in US were free to change their minds. Stop this outrage!!

[@katherinejohnson6168]

Love you guys but the outrage over the pardon is absolutely ridiculous and I was really hoping that my go-to dem bros would say the same. I'm SO glad he pardoned Hunter.

[@sherry6919]

Absolutely I think he should pardon, Liz Cheney, Dr. Fauci anybody else

[@engletinaknickerbocker5380]

Ms Cheney did nothing wrong and Dr Fauci ABSOLUTELY did nothing wrong. If someone is going to say so, then they are wrong and crazy.

[@bonanimathambo8721]

So you’re fine with Trump pardoning anyone for anything they may get charged with?

[@carlbartelt9509]

You can't be pardoned unless you are convicted of a crime

[@BwInNewJersey]

@@bonanimathambo8721He already has genius.

[@bonanimathambo8721]

@@BwInNewJersey You shouldn’t try to sound like a question is stupid when you don’t know how to read it.

[@pearlespainting]

Yawn.... Are you F-ing kidding?! Biden pardoning his son was the RIGHT move! Good for him!

[@IndigoBellyDance]

If u r ok w/ this, is it ok if I steal all my groceries and get a pardon. Is it ok if I never fil my taxes. I’m not even a rich nepo baby. Biden pardoning his son is the Most nepo thing around. Just proves rich & well connected can do whatever they want, the rest of us have to live by rules But if your dad is President u can do whatever u want.

[@yvesdosogne417]

The right move to protect his own a*s for sure

[@unscomlv]

Why did he give an 11 yr blanket pardon? BURISMA

[@oneopinion6806]

@@unscomlv He gave a blanket pardon so Republican's wouldn't waste America's time holding hearings and trying to make Hunter an attack vector on a former President. Now they'll just have to focus on what it is they think will do well for America. And we'll watch the results.

[@delta5297]

Biden pardoning his son is far more harmless than the shit that Trump is about to do.

[@BarefootCrochet]

This dem is delighted he pardoned Hunter.

[@Wesselmania]

You and Hunter can share crack together 😂

[@JRoChi]

Everyone needs to get over this pardon. Biden is NOT the problem.

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

💯

[@GM-nr2jq]

As an independent, who more often than not, voted republican, I am REALLY sick of you democrats being so self righteous on the Hunter Biden issue. As a parent, I see the President NOT lying, but rather CHANGING HIS MIND… people often do that. Circumstances change, and you adjust to the circumstances. With the TOTALLY UNFIT trump, excuse for a human being, being elected, pardoning Hunter is completely LOGICAL. SO…get over yourselves!!!!

[@gabriellemartin9794]

ABSOLUTELY

[@dthomas2022]

I agree...I don't see it that Pres Biden "lied". Under the extreme circumstances, I absolutely understand him changing his mind.

[@Listman11]

Nice try liberal.

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

This Democrat totally agrees with this 1 millionth percent. This discussion is annoying AF.

[@yiqingtan4079]

@GM-nr2jq exactly!

[@brittanyr6540]

After watching you all on the Don Lemon show I had to come here and respond - Yall really have the wrong take on this! ANY person in America would do what Biden did. If the country can elect a convicted felon Biden can Pardon his son. If Trump can pardon Roger Stone and Charles Kushner then Biden can pardon his son. What is good for Donald is good for Biden! Sorry we have to play chess not connect four!

[@MegaJiblet]

Then your country is fucked. Hunter was a crack head while he purchased a gun

[@Inverter222]

I unsubbed from PSA. It's clear they're locked into some DC mindset and have no idea what most Americans think. It's the exact mindset that has crushed Dems in the election. PSA needs new hosts. Hosts that aren't millionaires with homes and families since they're clearly part of the 1% elite now.

[@Listman11]

Why lie about it then.

[@karenwaldorf5671]

​@@Listman11 So...when.people change their minds...they are lying? 🙄

[@stuartbrown8309]

So as long as the other side does bad stuff, it's OK to also do similar bad stuff?

[@Robbie_S]

I see no wrong with it after knowing who America voted for 🤷♂️

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

we got the president the house and the senate. You guys got a hunter pardon. Wins all around 😂😂😂

[@fredschnerbert1238]

*You sound like the radical Muslim's* *Oh we can't accept our fellow country men's opinion, because they are not divine like Allah who* *makes all laws* *No respect for anyone who is not in their cult.....*

[@enriqueperalta6059]

A racist con man? By which I am referring to Biden.

[@heatherviars7923]

I’m sorry this is why regular people think we sound out of touch. Regular people understand!

[@christophergutierrez2760]

I am losing faith in the party… this is why the average American that isn’t into politics thinks the dems are full of it. The man committed crimes and we know it. The average person who committed these same things would be in jail already. Not to mention his art selling for money laundering 😕 I hate the whole what aboutism they always point to… weren’t the dems supposed to be the party of justice and rule of law? These are facts the republicans are corrupt. Now the dems are just following suit… I’m done.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

No, regular people want to be treated fairly. They don't want to see their sons go to prison for decades and Biden's son being pardoned because Joe thinks of himself as a king.

[@danielbarrero2815]

Every single person with a heart would do the same for their child as Biden did.

[@yiqingtan4079]

Word

[@danielbarrero2815]

Wake up, guys!! Read the comments and accept the truth.

[@tanmaymehra85]

They won’t. They are republicans pretending to be democrats. Kamala Harris campaign folks came and said that democrats should stop eating their own. Hassan Piker came and explained why they are part of the problem. Reed Galen of Lincoln Project said that they are part of the problem and they did not show any contrition. They refuse to learn. They will keep doing this and helping democrats lose. They are not solving problems, they are the problem.

[@marta9221]

He didn’t lie, he changed his mind.. I don’t get it, nothing is satisfying… if he didn’t pardon him everyone would be bitching in why didn’t he pardon him. He did the right thing., I approve.

[@DocMcGuiggens]

I don't think most people outside ofnhis family would've given hunter much thought. That's the hilarious part. His humanity only went as far as his family. How could he change his mind about his son and not the people who's lives were ruined with the crime bill JOE BIDEN wrote.

[@BlaineDrain]

No he did lie. They were telling the media that a pardon was off the table while secretly keeping it on the table. It's the most obvious lie in the world??

[@GandalfsPipe]

He didn’t change his mind if he knew he was going to pardon him the whole time. He lied through his teeth and proved Trump right that the justice system is politically corrupt.

[@elizabeth1050]

What part of vows to hurt Hunter more from Trump, Patel, Comer, etc. did this trio not understand? Pres. Biden changed his mind and had to due to who is coming into office. Would Tommy and Jon would let their sons suffer that fate, doubt it. Trump has pardoned the worst sort of people, and he has said he would continue to do. You guys are in a bubble. You are clinging to what was just like the Republicans clinging to the Bob Dole days. The resistance will come from the people grounded in reality like most of the commenters here. I recommend reading Jess Piper - The view from rural Missouri. It will take people involved in grassroot actions not these talking heads to lead the fight. I give up on PSA. Rober Reich has also joined the pearl clutching crowd. In the House of Representatives, it will take more of those like Jasmine Crockett to lead.

[@paulhaynes8045]

Excellent point. The word 'lie' is thrown around too easily. To lie is to tell a mistruth when you KNOW it to be a mistruth. If you genuinely believe it to be true, it isn't a lie. And, if at the time of saying it, you didn't think you'd do it, it isn't a lie either - you can't lie retrospectively. Over using the word like this reduces its meaning and power - what are you going to call it when it's really serious - a biggly lie?!

[@beethepeople6057]

trump was going to pardon a whole bunch of criminals whether President Biden pardoned Hunter or not. I am interested in the arguements, but honestly, I am WAY more concerned about the nominations and the upcoming shit show that is the so called trump presidency.

[@antoniobroccoliporto4774]

Trump sold pardons! There's a big difference.

[@geasty8862]

This is such a wrong take. I have extremely conservative family and everyone has family who has addiction issues and you aren’t telling me you wouldn’t protect your own child? This is foolish

[@wandajordanwanda6223]

You’ve lost my respect.

[@Listman11]

Nice try liberal

[@mariacormane7715]

He cannot throw his son to the wolves now that Trump won...the stakes CHANGED...DO YOU NOT GET IT

[@SuperAwesomeBlair]

I love these guys, but, no, they don't get it. This is why the Democrats lost - they can't grasp the darkness - they don't get it.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

The left is constantly screaming at the top of their lungs about the injustices of the rich not paying their fair share in taxes. They are crying about the need for "reasonable" gun control and the need to protect women from misogynistic men. Here we have irrefutable evidence of a man avoiding paying his taxes on millions of dollars, buying a gun illegally, and uploading an infinite number of videos of him sex trafficking women. Yet y'all don't want him prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Calling you a hypocrite would be an understatement and would be insulting to real hypocrites. If you guys didn't have double standards, what standards would you have at this point?

[@eugenedanker2377]

A wise man changes his mind sometimes, but a fool never. To change your mind is the best evidence you have one. Desmond Ford. Biden didn't lie, he changed his mind.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Eh no, he lied. Continuously. To us, through KJP through the press. He lied endlessly.

[@Listman11]

Biden is literally an invalid. He doesn’t have a mind to change.

[@eugenedanker2377]

@@alexnutcasio936 Let me guess: you're a Trump supporter.

[@sherry6919]

Hey, I beg to differ with you guys. You know you didn’t lie at the time he wasn’t going to pardon his son when he said that I think he meant it he also probably believe that Trump would not win which is why he said that and given the status of things, I think one of us would pardon our son if they were facing the possibility of Trump’s retribution on all his political enemies, I would still include Biden. And now Trump’s nominee of Patel for the FBI director. I’m really appalled that you’re thinking that he shouldn’t have pardoned his son after all the shit that he’s had to put up with from Trump‘.

[@СергейКочетов-о3л]

He didn't say he won't pardon him unless Trump is elected, he just said he won't. He lied.

[@AM-fs1je]

​@@СергейКочетов-о3л E6 Bawy MATb komrade

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

oh stop it already. The dude lied. Of course he was gonna pardon his son. Why lie to the american public. Just say you’re gonna do it and that’s the end it. Don’t lie for a year standing on this moral high ground. All that crap about the rule of law is nonsense and we all know it. Neither side cares

[@fredschnerbert1238]

*Like getting prosecuted for what Democrat Senator Menedez was charged with?* *Dems think Democrat corruption is OK!*

[@barbarasampson1325]

It’s not wrong - anyone else would not have been prosecuted.

[@aswerty911]

LOL, that third rate reality tv star THe Situation from Jersey Shore even went to jail for tax evasion. And he's irrelevant compared to the Bidens.

[@scarletsletter4466]

Biden’s own justice DOJ handled those prosecutions, & the pardon doesn’t just cover those. It’s even broader than the Nixon pardon

[@sjpuck48]

Lying and changing his mind are 2 different things. He let the legal process play out and then made his decision. I didn’t think Joe would do it but now that he did, GOOD FOR HIM!

[@danielbarrero2815]

at this point, who gives a shit? good for him, honestly

[@markcollazo706]

I would have been angry with Biden if he didn't pardon hunter

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Me too!

[@cmorris9494]

I think most people don't care about the pardon.

[@michellefrazier7499]

I could care less about this pardon. Let’s move on.

[@b.t.2796]

Or the J6 pardons on January 20th

[@franjkav]

@@b.t.2796this isn’t remotely the same

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Trust me, your child will not get the same pardons from the govt.

[@cmorris9494]

@theroamingsavage8813 i don't have kids that commit crimes. Besides presidents knowing people who commit crimes and pardoning them isn't a new thing. That's why most people don't care.

[@AshArAis]

Think through if he had no pardon: what circus would happen in the coming years? How many years have they already spent on it in courts? Also think through if the pardon was too specific: time and money would be wasted on investigating for any scrap of other things to bring up, and then continue the circus. This is cutting it off before it happens.

[@naylas3908]

Exactly. I also think it might be wise for Hunter to spend the next 4 years abroad.

[@yiqingtan4079]

I agree. I'm so glad this is hopefully gonna save me from having to hear how else they are gonna go after Hunter for the next 4 years.

[@marcimousie]

No no, I love you guys but it’s time to take the white gloves off. Democrats need to stop with the moral high ground that doesn’t exist. I’m glad Joe is going out with a bang.

[@tjwatson2112]

I’m a life long liberal Democrat. Good for Biden for doing this ❤

[@jenngray8769]

The fact that it took Biden four years to understand the game that the GOP are playing is infuriating. The fact that he canals recognizes it and is acting accordingly in a protectionist fashion to mitigate harm is not. He should be using WHATEVER POWER HE HAS to protect as much of America as he can. Period.

[@JellyBean-lo4sl]

I would be mad if Joe did not pardon Hunter. He should pardon everyone in the family and who supported them.

[@IndigoBellyDance]

So we should let all criminals out If they like Biden?

[@Shane756]

Why are you cheering on powerful people who would never give a shit about you? These people would never lift a finger to help you

[@alananimus9145]

​@@Shane756 You've lost the plot.

[@sherriromas5871]

@@Shane756 Because I care about people who experienced extreme trauma as a child and end up becoming an addict, only to defy the odds and become sober stay sober for 5 1/2 years

[@Shane756]

@@alananimus9145 Cool, they still wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire.

[@lisam2496]

This will NEVER change MY MIND about Joe Biden's legacy. He has made so many accomplishments and been an upstanding President. Sorry, from what I'm seeing on social media like 90% of Dems are with me.

[@MorePlausible]

A truly delusional take without an ounce of critical thinking.

[@СергейКочетов-о3л]

That's because you're in a cult

[@lisam2496]

@@MorePlausible Oh really? Explain. Don't just make a comment and run away.

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

@@lisam2496 Ignore the trolls. You're spot on with your comment.

[@lisam2496]

@sopyleecrypt6899 Thank you! 💙

[@atlasgabriel5461]

I’m glad he pardoned Hunter.

[@gagethompson3609]

I don't think any normal people care that he pardoned his son. You guys seem out of touch.

[@mattandlauramarzluft1563]

THIS is what’s upsetting people? What alternative reality are people living in? 😊

[@tanmaymehra85]

They literally had Kamala's campaign that said that Democrats eat their own and they should not. They turn around and eat their own. LOL. They are half the reason democrats lost 2024.

[@DennisMoore664]

Not people - we get it. It's just the Democratic pundits that are out of touch. The PSA take on things since the election has been a clear sign of the lack of sense of what the problems with the Democratic party are. For anyone asking what those problems are - to use an oldie but a goodie, "it's the economy, stupid" (specifically the prices of groceries and rent) and trying to appeal to the Clinton/Cheney wing of the Democratic party.

[@Homme927]

One of the few episodes I could not get through. Your discussion about Biden's pardoning is so out of touch with what people get mad about. You are all still so focused on norms and decorum when it has been long gone. Tommy saying this is why people are losing faith in the system is just so fucking wild. This? You really think this was why? Such awful take by PSA all around. You still expect and want Democrats to play by the rules and colour inside the lines. Grow a backbone and get tough. Trump has a hit list and you are all sitting around pearl clutching and acting like you were personally wronged because Joe pardoned his son to protect him. Get a grip.

[@scarletsletter4466]

It’s not out of touch with what people are mad about. I live in a 98% blue district in NYC & everyone’s mad about this abuse of power by Biden. You’re just in an online echo chamber, & be aware that most of PSA’s YT audience is foreign leftists anyway. They’ve got no idea what the US electorate cares about

[@notthatkindofdoctor-p8k]

This is why we are going to keep loosing. People like the Pod Save guys. They fall right into the other sides hands over and over. The other side counts on Democrats to be upset, they stack the playing board with minefields so that when someone inevitability trips one, they can go "ah ha! caught ya!" Its just really disheartening that so much is at risk and this exact same play is going to happen. Leading us right to fascism.

[@Tarotcat562]

With what's coming ahead. These guys need to wear rubber diapers. The shit flying Americas way will drown us all.

[@gregodonnell8469]

Both you bozos are missing the point. Just admit both sides are liars and crooks; to continue to play the more “moral” party is the issue. Get a new sale and use your advice to fight fire with fire. Don’t keep lying and saying you’re the saints.

[@samyravs7792]

Joe Biden sucks and I hate his crackhead son

[@kellyking7101]

I absolutely support President Biden in pardoning his son.

[@Tarotcat562]

I wondered why this show never gets to a million subs. Now I know why

[@ChrisKsGarden]

I would have been more disappointed if he had not pardoned his son.

[@beckyeastham9426]

i don’t care about this pardon, and I think the outrage about this is either false or hypocritical.

[@theredtechnician]

The justice system was weaponised again Hunter, it is the moral thing to do to pardon him, lawfare 100%.

[@Chzydawg]

I don't understand that logic. If it was weaponised against Hunter, then shouldn't the charges have been fabricated? It's not as though he was guilty of crimes he didn't commit. He was guilty of crimes that he committed, filmed himself committing, wrote a book on committing, personal recorded the audiobook of him committing crimes that were then used against him in his own trial. This isn't some poor unfortunate soul that was caught in the crossfire of political agenda. This is a 54 year old repeat offender committing felonies over an extended period of time (11 years). To say that it was unfair that he was charged for these offenses is absolutely ludicrous. Anyone else puts in a crime spree like that will end up in jail, unless of course their father is the POTUS. Fair enough pardon your kid, but don't try to claim some moral high ground.

[@bonanimathambo8721]

He pleaded guilty. That nullifies your point. It’s not “weaponised” if your father’s DOJ charges you for something you admit that you did.

[@sopyleecrypt6899]

@@bonanimathambo8721 in a normal justice system under a democratic government you'd be right. We're no longer in that world. Come on people, wake up and face our new reality.

[@nickditoro]

Get over the Hunter pardon. Save your fire for Trump.

[@jenshappyplace4393]

THIS ^

[@tanmaymehra85]

They won't. They have to eat their own. If they would have spent half the effort attacking Trump as much as they attack their own, Democrats might have prevailed in 2024. We dont have smart cookies in Democratic party. That is why we are where we are.

[@samyravs7792]

Democrats are the problem

[@portia4242]

He didn't lie he changed his mind, rightfully so.

[@carlozcabrera]

He has dementia he forgot what he lied😂

[@bonanimathambo8721]

But if it was Trump you’d say he lied.

[@TamaraM71]

If Kamala had been elected, the pardon wouldn't have happened. Trump is out for revenge and Joe protected his son from what that orange asshole is promising to do. Everyone who is a parent would have done the same exact thing.

[@BwInNewJersey]

@@bonanimathambo8721because Trump has a record of lying Biden does not. This is not a difficult concept. For most of us.

[@bryanfarris4696]

When is he going to change his mind on meeting his granddaughter?

[@Prince.Hamlet]

Apparently Jon hasn't figured WE ARE DONE PLAYING NICE When someone says they're going to arrest all their political opponents, all the rules change.

[@yiqingtan4079]

Yes. Dems need to get their heads out of the clouds and see the world and the public for what it truly is.

[@ThePequenocristo]

Tommy and Jon's pardoning reaction is basically "But the messaging!" This is why I don't get through an entire PSA anymore.

[@Corgiking521]

He’s old and doesn’t have much time left with his only living son. They were BS political charges anyways who cares

[@vinathamadhavan7019]

BS? He got away not paying taxes between 2014-17 when he made the most money. DOJ deliberately let the statutes of limitations expire. You think DOJ would do that for the avg American? He also got away with FARA violations. Many Americans have gone to prison for those crimes.

[@angelaadams3615]

Find something to talk about!!! Like trump DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY ‼️🙄😒🤬

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Yeah cz he let in 12 illegal immigrants across the border and he made groceries 80% more expensive, and caused the housing crisis from 2020-2024 right? Get real 😂

[@scarletsletter4466]

Trump isn’t even in office. If you want Trump derangement content 24/7 just search his name, there’s plenty on KZbin.

[@claudialind9139]

I'm all for a pre-emtive pardon for everyone on trumps list

[@ashwinkanand4952]

You agree democrats are all criminals?😂

[@logo2107]

I don't agree with you guys, rule of law should applies to all and in America it doesn't, I am all for what Biden did, charity always begins at home, even in one moment he said no he would not intervene, but the next moment every thing should go out the window, Trump looking out for all his families, why not Biden??

[@VickieHughesChupp]

When the rabid hyenas are barking at the gate, you too would have pardoned him. I don’t think he would have if Kamala had won.

[@elainewhitlock352]

I am glad Hunter was pardoned. Trump will be pardoning all those responsible for Jan. 6th. Tit for tat. I do agree that Biden should blanket pardon all those on Trump’s hit list.

[@valeried6543]

Except then trump will say he would never have done that. I don’t want them to go to jail but the republicans need to in a BIG way what they’ve unleashed and it could happen to them. Few stood against trump when they could have and now the chickens will come home to roost.

[@bonanimathambo8721]

So you’ll be the first one here agreeing that it’s fair when Trump pardons those people?

[@DazaiOsamu_MarryMeChibi]

@@bonanimathambo8721 I do not give a fuck what Trump does. He’ll do what he does. Biden will do what he does. Seems that the “ rules” are gone.

[@trevinbeattie4888]

​@@valeried6543which would be gaslighting, because we ought to remember that was one of his campaign promses.

[@yessum15]

It's a reasonable pardon: Nonviolent offense, unfair prosecution, individual unlikely to reoffend, already paid restitution, likely to experience special harm if put in custody.

[@dmkv1does]

Reasonable? The pardon covers any crimes against the USA charged and not charged from 1/2014 - 12/2024. How is that reasonable? 😂

[@judgement_free_dragon]

Yep. All of that. Thank you for your articulate comment. I concur.

[@vvvthirteen]

Wait til you guys figure out why the pardon is back dated to 2014.

[@apoc519]

Let the excuses roll in... you wouldn't be so kind if it was the other side. Typical hypocritical Democrat BS. Democrats and Republicans are the problem

[@Chzydawg]

Unlikely to reoffend? He was found guilty of felonies spanning several years, he already has reoffended. Smoking crack whilst driving a motor vehicle and being under the influence of illicit drugs while buying a gun whilst seemingly nonviolent are certainly not crimes you want to downplay, the slightest error in judgement and there are multiple victims. Not to mention the guy has just been told his daddy will protect him no matter how stupid a crime he commits, 100% this brat will reoffend.

[@suek232]

Three of you are unbelievable. Get off your damn high horse. We lost everything and here you are bitching about something no one cares about. Did it make a difference when Trump pardoned all his cronnies? No. People don't give a shit. Stop this freaking nonsense and discuss real issues.

[@tjphoenix1908]

@suek232 some of you clowns have absolutely no clue how much damage this has done to the democratic party and brand

[@PotassiumMan]

Yeah I agree with tip here, this is nepotism pure and simple and it destroys any arguments Dems can have when Trump starts going nuts and says, "well Biden did it too and you didn't say anything then". You guys can keep the Democratic party, but this is only going to further the divide that put trump into office in the first place. People don't want to vote for corrupt politicians on the law and order side

[@theroamingsavage8813]

I hope u were this passionate when Trump was hit with phony legal case after phony legal case, but something tells me u weren't 😂

[@travisray2934]

I'm an independent, so yeah I want literally ALL the criminals on both sides to be held accountable. Thanks for showing that crime is okay so long as you voted blue. No integrity having mufuh

[@suek232]

​@tjphoenix1908 yes, the Democratic party's "brand" is doing so well. Idiot

[@carolvasquez2768]

I support President Biden for pardoning his son. How can anyone blame him?

[@curious855]

Did he lie or did he change his mind? It's really insulting and crass that all you pundits are going straight to "lied".

[@imalwaysright]

Not sure what outrage there can be when America voted for a criminal enterprise 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jlocey87]

Best comment. 👍🏼💪🏼👍🏼🇺🇸

[@benoitwaffle5439]

Pretty much.

[@ashwinkanand4952]

Cool! Don't kick, whine & scream when president Trump pardons all J-6.

[@Robbie_S]

I mean how dumb F people are acting so surprised as if they really did a great job voting for the epitome of a criminal

[@judgement_free_dragon]

​@ashwinkanand4952 whether or not Trump pardons a bunch of violent offenders or not, it never will be contingent on this. If trumps gonna do that, he's going to do it Hunter pardon or not.

[@TRsTake]

I think people care MUCH less about this than you think lol

[@jfrsnjhnsn]

This pardon was inevitable the moment they blew up hunter’s plea deal. The gop dummies should have taken the win.

[@graethynne]

I am pretty disappointed in the Pardon take. First because Hunter's treatment was way out of bounds according to ever legal analyst who spoke about this. But second, Trump and his surrogates have made it clear that they will be on a revenge tour, including Hunter. One does note lose their right to fair treatment before the law by virtue of being the President's son. Evaluate the pardon on the merits (or lack there of of the prosecution), not on the relationship. I doubt that Biden would have pardoned Hunter if Harris had won. I don't disagree that pardons for Fauchi and others is appropriate given the revenge tour rhetoric. Maybe Trump et al will lose steam, but I wouldn't count on it. Finally, I understand that you guys are pundits, but the reality is that this pardon is not going to be defining of Joe's presidency, or hos legacy writ large. Joe is not a tragic figure. He has been an excellent president who made 1 critical mistake (running again) but it is super easy for all of us to call that a mistake in hindsight. It is important to keep the responsibility where it belongs. On Trump and his sycophants. Had he won reelection or had Harris won, remember just how close the election was, then his grand mistake turns out to not be a mistake at all. And the same is true if he had declined to run for reelection at all, and the Dem nominee lost. This Monday morning quarterbacking culture is the same one commented that "if only Joe had run in 2016 Trumpism would have died in the cradle." That statement is possibly true, but only matters in hindsight since "there was no way Trump could beat Hillary anyway". *sigh*

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Very well said.

[@yiqingtan4079]

I agree. I hope our sentiments actually reach the PSA guys.

[@cherricastellon490]

I have so much pride for Biden pardoning Hunter now keep it up.

[@yvetteoliver3881]

I am so glad he pardoned Hunter! That was the absolute best news I’ve heard since the election! Awesome!❤💙💙💙

[@gabriellemartin9794]

AGREE

[@rachaelkp]

Can you imagine that Biden made this choice lightly? I can't. He knows that they would NEVER stop coming after Hunter. And I hope Biden has a decent group of people, including Tim Miller, on his list. I don't know if it's the best idea, but how better do we protect people?

[@travisray2934]

I don't know, you could protect yourself by not being a depraved criminal 🤷🏻 a pardon spanning the last 11 years? C'mon.

[@scarletsletter4466]

😂 Friend, NOBODY needs a blanket pardon spanning 11 years. It’s broader than what Nixon got. We whine about Trump pardons but he (1) pardoned ppl for specific crimes & (2) after they’d served their time/ punishment

[@lindaschmidt8738]

I don't think Joe is finished with pardons.

[@jfrsnjhnsn]

I hope not.

[@DennisMoore664]

Like I've written elsewhere, don't stop with pardoning Hunter. Commute the sentences of the 40 people on federal death row, cancel student debt by executive order, protect abortion on the national level by an executive order, move weed off the schedule one list, order Deep State operatives to make the Trump presidency a bureaucratic nightmare, get freaky with the red-tape president Biden! And make Trump live with it or roll it back so he's saddled with the unpopular reversals. Give 'em hell, Joe!

[@beachgremlin]

@@jfrsnjhnsn As Keith Olbermann said, Biden needs to pardon all his staff,Democratic politicians, supportive media figures, etc., their spouses, and all family, including pets. I’m with him on this.

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Hope not

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Hope not!

[@victoriaanderson255]

Hunter Biden deserves to be pardoned. He and his family have suffered enough. And a fair deal had originally been reached,, but was abandoned because of politics.

[@LaurieWitthauer]

I think it is great Biden pardon his son. Biden is not a liar

[@chriswest6988]

I'd love to be angry about this, but instead it has really shown me how much faith I lost in the importance of propriety, norms, whatever you want to call it, with this election. I still think it's not the right thing to do, but I can't imagine being able to hold myself to that standard at that cost in Joe's position right now. I would use my privilege to show a family member mercy even if it was undeserved, and I would not let a guy who pardoned someone for scamming his own constituents shame me for it.

[@Dac85]

Yes I imagine Joe was at the point of 'well the american people clearly don't give a shit about abuse of power, this is my last job ever, we campaigned on trying to do the right thing and lost in a landslide because of it, and the next guys are yahoos that are going to continue politically persecuting my remaining son just to be cruel, so fuck it'.

[@scarletsletter4466]

I agree with you, but here’s the thing: if we cared about our child & we’re POTUS, we would’ve done it before this. You wouldn’t wait & then give the broadest pardon in history, going back 11 years & broader than Nixon. If it’s just tax evasion, you wouldn’t do this. You’d only do this if you’re really trying to stop an investigation into yourself. Yes, that’s a “rightwing talking point” right now. But it’s also TRUE. This doesn’t make sense under any other lens

[@Juleslikespink]

"it has really shown me how much faith I lost in the importance of propriety, norms, whatever you want to call it, with this election"

[@alananimus9145]

These hosts need to read the damn room

[@b.t.2796]

I have seen more masculinity at Tupperware parties

[@rsmith6366]

Sounds like someone's a little insecure about their own gender.​@@b.t.2796

[@Tarotcat562]

They go after Biden because they are shit scared of dumb Don. Mar a lago at the weekend boys? Like toady Joe and Thicka

[@caela79]

The Hunter thing is bad politics but good parenting. I wouldn't trust my kid to a Trump DOJ either.

[@Perserra]

I don't agree it's bad politics. I don't think any persuadable voter anywhere cares in the slightest. This will be ancient history in two weeks.

[@alananimus9145]

It's good politics. Now he needs to preemptively pardon all of Trump's targets.

[@IndigoBellyDance]

@@caela79 how is this good parenting? Teaching your kid they do not have to pay the consequences of your actions ruins is good parenting?

[@caela79]

@IndigoBellyDance Hunter isn't a freaking toddler. This won't teach him that there's no consequences for his actions. If anything it'll show him that his father puts his love of family above politics. It'll also show he's willing to protect him from retribution (which Trump has promised) that has nothing to actually do with him. Let's he honest, the GOP when after Hunter because they couldn't find anything to stuck to Joe. If his last name hadn't been Biden, he never would have been criminally charged with either the gun paperwork or the late taxes. At most he'd have been given a civil infraction and slapped with a fine. With Trump on his way back into office, I have no doubt his sentencing would also have been ridiculous and I have no problem with Joe protecting him from further GOP harassment.

[@jarheadmarine5655]

Good parenting??? Hahahaha. Hunter is over 50 years old. Time for him to grow up.

[@user-kp7bi1ug9e]

If anything, this made me like Biden more. Doesn't ruin his legacy at all for me.

[@Jelenicko]

Why are we playing by the rules?! There are no rules!! Isn't that what America wanted?

[@carolyntalbot947]

In consideration of all the massive egos in DC, I do not see President Biden as making self-serving or transactional decisions. I think he saw Trump as an existential threat when few did, and that compelled him to defeat him. I think he judged the American public as too bigoted to elect a woman and he was right. Even after he appointed women in positions of power, the backlash convinced him that Harris would not win.

[@peterrobinson1041]

thrn why did he support harris of thats true

[@ReneeKlaus-bd3cy]

I am thrilled beyond words that he pardoned Hunter!

[@believer773]

I 100% understand this decision, but Ill only be truly ok with this if Biden does exactly what Favreau suggests and blanket pardons all of Trumps upcoming targets.

[@dross24MA]

I keep saying that and we need to write to the President to do so. Send him *your* list ASAP!!!

[@believer773]

@dross24MA that's a great idea! I did so much messaging work this election I didn't think I'd get involved for a while but this seems deeply important in ways we don't know yet. Thanks friend

[@RandaButters-zw2cn]

That, pardoning Hunter, that is a big FU to all the dems who couldn't get off their lazy buts and voting. I don't really care what people think of his presidency. He knows what he accomplished

[@ReadMoreHistory-v9u]

Amen!🙏

[@medygantz8855]

You guys have a such a double standard is absolutely insane!!! Had he not pardoned him I would have been furious.

[@Racheroni05]

Tulsi Gabbard and Patel are the worst cabinet nominees left followed closely by RFK Jr.

[@thecommongood3914]

hegseth too...

[@yarrrthekraken]

RFK is going to kill tens if not hundreds of thousands. He’s so much worse than Gabbard.

[@DennisMoore664]

That's like saying that vomiting is worse than having diarrhea. All of Trump's picks have been a big middle finger to decency and being qualified for the job. Old Bankrupt Donny is trying to surround himself with people as bad as him so he'll have people with whom he gets along working for him.

[@ChristyMorris-rh7rq]

All of them are!