Joe Budden GOES OFF on Doja Cat's "Demons'' | I Hope She FAILS"

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[@moises4730]

Its hilarious how like 95 percent of people live in sin constantly but want to cosplay as a holy Cristian when anything dark pops up

[@artheals8869]

It’s ridiculous honestly 😂

[@vondongaming]

Yea cuz if we didn't ppl like u would be graped beat robbed and unalive u pick

[@cbo0824]

Nah, ppl just love to complain and give a negative opinion online and in front of the camera. Also, folks forget that this is ENERTAINMENT, these ppl are putting on a show. Stop taking this shyt so serious.

[@Kinnyred]

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Even i had to check myself like unless im sinless and perfect i should stfu and get myself to a place of true alignment with my faith.. u then realize u wont have the time to judge anyone again😅

[@gclark-o4506]

Naw fuck all that. Sin is sin I get it.. but devil worshipping shit is just corny at this point.

[@andresciahooten9598]

All of these people that are dissing Doja Cat for what she is doing, they need to have the same energy for your favorite artists. Like XXXTentacion, Lil Uzi Vert, Playboi Carti and whoever else that they like that has done the same thing as Doja Cat has done. Because she’s not the first person to do this. And she wouldn’t be the last

[@L1am21]

36 mafia Eazy-e bushwick bill and bone thugs just to name a few.

[@user-zd2ln9ol9t]

We do they are homos

[@collenhlungwani3614]

Majority of these artists have done this shxt... Only a minority stand out

[@candice019]

Low-key all of them got dissed for it aswell

[@rosiesanderson2449]

​@@candice019not like the woman so next

[@BeautyWithShayOfficial]

To sit here and lie Talkin bout her music doesn’t “slap” is absurd 😂😂😂

[@FreakyTyRiki]

6 people in that room talking about a song/video for 12 minutes and only 1 person even heard the song? How can we take this seriously?

[@ada443]

This is exactly what my takeaway was, like bruh just listen to the song before you form a 12 minute rant on it. All while saying nobody is talking about it too lol

[@Fiwek23452]

You dont have to listen to the song if you know its bad🤦‍♂️

[@jimmynodean]

@@Fiwek23452you can’t KNOW something without evidence and in this case you can’t have a valid opinion if you haven’t listened to the song

[@superdopesamples]

Well the topic wasn't really about the song, it was about the demonic imagery and influence.

[@FreakyTyRiki]

@@superdopesamples How can you judge something’s influence without seeing it or really knowing anything about it? Having that big a platform and not even trying to do any research before you go into a rant is irresponsible.

[@jonsnow300]

YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE DEVIL TO EVEN BE MAD ABOUT WHAT DOJA DOING…

[@usthefolksmusic]

I said something similar on Twitter 😂 shit don't affect me more than watching a horror movie. It's not real

[@iamsalaya]

Do I believe in spirits in a sense? yes. but demons that dwell in hell is and have horns and red eyes that nobody sees…I could care less. As far as I’m concerned she’s dressed like an X-men. They talking about influential, normalizing killing and drugs is way more influential on a day to day than this cosplay. Would I have done it no. But it is what it is.

[@jordynaponte8936]

That mf part

[@seansimms6693]

Demons are real, y’all just too young to have encountered any yet… live longer and then get back at me.

[@usthefolksmusic]

@@seansimms6693 prove it

[@jayseth]

Melyssa was on point, I grew up in a Christian family. Spiritually you can pick up things, but this shit looks like textbook shock value. She's basically going through her "initiation" so to speak. The subliminal shit is alot more dangerous

[@Malikk5251]

She has people talking about her project, she accomplished her objective.

[@theghettoracle]

It literally doesn't get any simpler than this. It's almost a shame you have to say it.

[@AC313_]

🎯

[@AC313_]

Almost all of them said they haven’t even heard the song & they are talking about it 😂 🎯 🎯 🎯 😂

[@frenchieeva5332]

Hearing someone say “she’s a Gemini” to defend dressing up as a demon is crazy 😂

[@Vanessa-ph1or]

She’s not even a Gemini 😂 she’s a Libra lol

[@Salma-yo6ns]

I felt offended 😂😂😂

[@Ember_Janer]

@@Salma-yo6ns😂

[@jarenfromvenus]

My daddy was a Gemini and a righteous man.

[@thatguyjulio3877]

It’s hella retarded 😂 its like if we was like , John Wayne gasey was a Scorpio 🤷‍♂️ how could we not know

[@Violetkincaidart]

He slid in her DMs and got rejected 😂 She’s definitely talking about him in that Demons song.

[@jenna9531]

LOL This is the best comment on here LOL

[@rosiesanderson2449]

EXACTLY I WAS THINKING THIS BEFORE I CLICKED ON THE VIDEO 😂😂😂

[@whoameye6298]

Mel’s the only one with common sense on this subject

[@nahhhbruhhh]

Exactly

[@jaykalembwe]

How so ?

[@VinnieDangerous]

What’s funny about Joe & Ice’s take is that they are using the same language when people talked about Gangsta rap back in the day? When Young Thug is on trial for the things he puts in his music “it’s just entertainment” but when someone uses imagery (movie references btw), now all of a sudden the music can influence the kids????

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

Exactly. When it goes against what their supposed beliefs,values or personal bias then it’s a problem. As if this one music video/song alone is enough to brainwash “the kids” into going down a r road that will lead to degeneracy when the Catholic Church for decades have been concealing and enabling sexual predators.

[@darkskinwhite]

Young Thug isn't in court over whether or not his music influences the kids..

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

@@darkskinwhite missing the point

[@RealJudah144]

Video games as well they kill for hours but nobody says anything

[@dawb86]

Not to mention when it's artists folks like Joe fuck with (Beyonce, Jay-Z, Rihanna been getting accused of having demonic imagery in their videos for YEARS now) then we all of a sudden just some "conspiracy ass niggas" for noticing the shit..... 😂

[@isstrip1002]

I’m with Mel and Ice for once.. People are so sensitive about anything they don’t believe in. Don’t listen, don’t watch, problem solved… side note though, I think “Demons” is trash but “Attention” and “Paint The Town Red” are fire.

[@missdee4927]

Yeah Joe only heard Demons, but Attention and Paint the Town Red are fire.

[@LordDaveBradley]

The notion that “music can’t influence people” is so stupid.

[@growth2newconnections718]

Ong 💯 that female talking is delusional 💯

[@Dizzyj360]

It can’t. That’s not how art works.

[@UbeMilkT]

Doja Cat just put out an amazing album. So many people missed the point and they are looking stupid.

[@nazeemfonemgaddafi]

Nah u looking stupid for listening to Doja cat

[@nazeemfonemgaddafi]

Check back in with me in 5 yrs when she having a Brittany spears moment

[@seventhomas5145]

We are stupid or you all don’t understand musical engineering. Please do research before posting especially issuing the term “stupid”

[@NuOriginal]

A movie is attached to a cast, but a song is attached to one person. When you perform a song you own everything that comes with that energy.

[@owenleal]

That is disingenuous. A movie is at its core attached to a director and a screenwriter. Why does Steven Spielberg not catch heat for Poltergeist but Doja does for this? Why does James Wan not get criticised for the Insidious franchise but Doja does for this?

[@NuOriginal]

I think it’s a different spiritual place to reach from for a singer who has to perform the same song over and over and put out that same energy. The Director will direct an actors performance for a scene, but it only has to be believable once.@@owenleal

[@iamsalaya]

@@NuOriginal lol let’s just say your premise was true. Let’s.just.say…. There’s writers for the script(god knows how long they’re dwelling in that energy to create a vision for 2 hours), there’s the editors who have to make hours of video fit into 2 hour windows and god only knows how long that takes rewatching over and over, then there’s the actor that “has to make it believable once”…who is literally becoming that character in their everyday life and studying for the part…then there’s promoting it and rewatching it….like they are not just one and done. At all because they’re a cast…..

[@jakestroll6518]

This is some weak brained logic.

[@BlueberrySummertime]

Right so there’s no mv directors, stylists, makeup artists, hairstylists, management, record label etc etc. Bro it’s both the same.

[@ashleyb119]

You hope she fails. ..but yet she succeeding 😂😂😂 how my demons look? 😈😈😈

[@yonye.]

Plot twist: Doja don’t give a fuck !

[@blackmcbain3145]

She better keep that same energy later when she starts talking about "mental health" and all that bs

[@dawb86]

@@blackmcbain3145 I can't wait for this goofy nigga Lil Nas X to start claiming the bad influence "the industry" had on him and his decision making..... 😩💀

[@NemisisRecords]

People overestimate how much influence music actually plays on people's day to day life choices. And considering these guys are hip hop heads, it should be more than clear that young people are very much able to differentiate music, music's meaning, and intentions. Probably more so than the adults who think they need to be sheltered. All of these guys were listening to hip hop growing up, none of them have been locked up for murder(As far as I know.) And billions of other hip hop listeners haven't either. So why would this song suddenly cause an influx of devil worship, If the criminal content that we all enjoy hearing in rap music didn't? Isn't that exactly what people used to, and probably still say about rap? It's devil music? EVEN WITHOUT THE IMAGERY? Let's hold ourselves to higher standards than this please. We're better than the double standards. It's just music.

[@rissilient85]

Well said 👏🏾

[@hhhy9160]

Demons and "evils" imagery in music gets more smoke then teens sliding bc monsters are an easy target, criticizing real life monsters comes with consequences.

[@dxp96]

i agree but i feel like it all comes down to relatability and subject matter with the music, i 100% believe drill music has an influence on youth's choices but devil worshipping is like a stretch imo. These same monsters that will do drive bys also pray to a god.

[@jarenfromvenus]

I think you’re trying to minimize it so you feel ok about what you’re supporting. Just say you are cool with occult imagery cuz that’s the truth. Stand on your shit.

[@ajaarmstrong4423]

@@jarenfromvenusI’m cool with occult imagery, cause at least they ain’t talking about drive bys and airing out an area.

[@jasminegayle]

It's so crazy how they say no one's talking about the song, yet they all are. Anyone who pursues a career or pursuit in anything will be criticized because that's just how the human race functions. As a former heavily indoctrinated Christian, I'll say this, your beliefs shape your reality. So what you believe in IS real and what you don't believe in ISN'T. On a side note, it takes courage to put yourself out there. It takes even more courage to be your authentic self because: look, everybody has something to say. Doja Cat's transformation and the way she portrays herself has helped me realize that you're never safe from criticism, fuck what other people think (it's a projection anyway), and you should do what you want because you only have one life. Plus, she's such a troll on purpose and I think it is to show all our hypocrisy and how we take (some) things too seriously.

[@MiillieMesh]

Period. It's like some people rather women who are artists just be these constructed ideas of beauty & sexuality. Keeping them in a box in their mind, especially in rap music. Because if this imagery was from a rock band or white singer it'd be less of a big deal. But of course, anyone can always ruffle religious feathers. That's easy because they're so one dimensional in thought. It's like these old heads don't want rap to evolve.

[@captjohnson5452]

People don't party to movies. They party to music and I can gaurantee that more murders and drug overdoses were done by kids who listen to it. They literally have music to drive by as an album.

[@LluviaAva]

To top in off, in most of the movies, the evil is depicted as a bad thing to be destroyed or covercome. Its not being glorified in most cases. Now there can still be issues with profiting off of it, but its not 1:1 with the devil worship

[@butterflyygyrlsworld5106]

My interpretation of the song is saying that all the people that doubted her, hated on her, misjudged her, counted her out, etc. are her demons and she is asking in the chorus, “how my demons look” now that she has money now and she’s on top. You have to read and listen to the lyrics…

[@angelogonzalez8161]

cause you WANT to interpret it like that.

[@TheMarcusmcntsh]

Nah you been tricked by the devil fool ain’t no interpreting she is plain and simply devil worshiping

[@tyronebaxter578]

Your correct. I like the song. It's just fun.

[@iSaleSingles]

Naw, it's about the industry and the fans

[@elizabethj2182]

That was my interpretation as well

[@kishdaichi8962]

I think she's trying to move into the market that she always wanted to be in. And I think after having success, the way she figured doing that is to first purge her audience and then make a drastic change. Especially since we are very hip hop focused, we forget that this imagery that she's using isn't new. This has been in the rock scene punk scene for a very long time. First people came in. My mind is Marilyn Manson and Ozzy Osbourne. That hasn't been a lot of big people like them for a while. But that is delay genre music that has been out for a very long time and I might be where she's trying to take a step. But you can't do that if she's tied to hip hop. Which is why I think she's been doing a purge to see if she has enough clouts left to make this turn

[@dawb86]

Thing is, she has to alienate such a large mass of her audience. She's got a platform from signing a major deal and having pop hits but it's an almost complete 180 from the target group she gained her success from and I highly doubt she's converting the same people that listen to Saweetie, Meg and the City Girls to that style of music lol...

[@sonyap8253]

🎯

[@sonyap8253]

​@@dawb86I think it's not a 180 but who wants yo be clumped w saweetie and meg? Their image is prostitute. No thanks.

[@jakoby757]

@@dawb86 which is excellent for business. She is building a cult following. Think Playboi Carti. Funny you bring Saweetie up; all she had to do was get a low haircut to lose her "fans." Doja isn't cookie-cutter enough at her core to thrive in that Cardi B, SZA, Meg realm.

[@dawb86]

@@jakoby757 her talent/skillset (and being a looker when she wants to be lol) allows her the ability to thrive in any style she wants but I think she's just too creative to stay in that ratchet rap lane and since she'd potentially be the only major female in that Travis/Carti/Uzi lane at the moment I agree, she could potentially break the bank going in that direction...

[@meeksjjm]

The album is 🔥 y’all are tripping agora hills is a timeless hit…watch!

[@tlotlisanglekhoabalekhoaba8537]

Life is more spiritual than we realise. You are ultimately influenced by anything you give your attention to. What is strange about art is that it serves as a sort of a portal between the spiritual realm and the physical realm. Anyone who has ever created will tell you that the best ideas come when you stop trying to create with intent. In fact, most of an artist's "intentional" work never sees the light of day because of how mediocre it turns out. Most great and humble artists always say that their greatest ideas come from God, and He just used them as vessels to deliver these ideas. Truth is that all great ideas are not from the artist, only the extremely vain/ignorant take full credit. Yet still, what the humble artists don't understand is that just because an idea comes from the spiritual realm - it doesn't mean that it comes from God. The Bible in 1 John 4: 1-6 says to test every spirit to see if it is from God. That every spirit that does not confess Jesus, is not from God. Which means if the ideas do not glorify God in the name of His son Jesus Christ, it is not from God. Every idea has a spiritual agenda. Let's think of it this way, if prayer and worship music edifies the world and summons the goodness of the kingdom of God - music and videos by artists like Doja summons things from the dark side of the spiritual realm. Soon we start noticing our world becoming more like the art these artists create. Kids wanting to be d*mons for halloween just like Doja, p*p p*lls and drinking le*n like Future, or even have a WAP like Megan and Cardi. This explains the famous saying that: "life imitates art more than art imitates life". These artists are ignorantly allowing ev*l spirits to use them to model our society and world after their own realm, just because the artists find it "artistic" or to have a "shock value". Most times it's less about selling your s*ul, and more about unwittingly allowing these d*mons express themselves through you. Not realising that you are being instrumental in literally "raising h*ll".

[@dawb86]

"Raising hell." As in allowing lower level consciousness/vibrations to rise up and be manifested into the physical realm. Youth that go out and do things with no sense of morality or principles are literally said to have "raised all kinds of hell." ALL of the artists taking part in the making of ANY kind of music, videos, performances, etc. that go against their own sense of morality or that is in fact lacking of any at all have in essence "sold their soul." So many in fact have now that it's become almost impossible for so many to spot the difference and a ridiculous amount of the masses are just sheep being led astray by the pied pipers of the dark prince....

[@SejoRelentless]

clear as day

[@CaitlinAmanda333]

Sorry but I’m not cancelling her until y’all cancel Lady Gaga🤷🏽‍♀️ and that ain’t gonna happen so…

[@MrsCooleygang]

I love Lady Gaga. I don’t care what Doja do.

[@richieporter3798]

Or Marylin Mason

[@VTEC313]

You do realize their primary focus is hip-hop/r&b, right?

[@gdavis2bn]

Lady GaGa hasn't been popping in years

[@thelordofpainandsuffering8480]

🤣 Even though I can't stand Lady Gaga's music she's infinitely way talented than Doja Cat can only dream of. Both those girls are weirdos and both won't be cancelled but Lady Gaga has the greater talent to back up that weirdness but Doja Cat doesn't possessed.

[@tony_tostones]

Joe Budden calling Doja Cat a "Doof" is WILD.

[@iamking_nell]

Dude is a real live contradiction

[@dkmrap1]

Takes one to know one

[@justinowre]

@@dkmrap1 no it doesn't dvmbass

[@Eli-ss9gj]

That insult always makes me laugh lmao. Idek why, it’s just funny. I never hear it except on this podcast

[@DBE.S.O510]

Naw he's entitled to his opinion

[@meltingmegan3948]

Doja Cat has ALWAYS been about shock value so why is anyone surprised? If Kanye did the same thing we’d call it “genius” or “artistry” and claim that people just don’t “get it”. Far from a Doja fan but she ATE that VMAs performance!

[@kvnd6577]

He won't tho

[@dawb86]

@@kvnd6577 Did you see some of the stuff he was doing during the 'Donda' run live lol?!?

[@sonyap8253]

He loved Travis Scott and lil uzi albums

[@kvnd6577]

@dawb86 God is much more terrifying than any demon period

[@dawb86]

@@kvnd6577 Well yeah. God created the Devil and every demon we've ever had to deal with, makes sense....

[@Augusto0926]

“She’s a doof…” nah Joe Poddin’ 😂😂😂

[@tdmidas289]

Doja was always taken as a joke. Started "playin" demon now they treat her like the next big star. And Mel's explanations was so dumb.

[@Magnus_VII]

Fr.

[@liteflightify]

Did u not pay attention to her last album era? She won a Grammy, had a few hit singles, had one of the few most chart stable albums of the last five years. She was the most streamed female rapper for 3 years in a row. Doja been a star. You just now started paying attention 😂.

[@nadine8764]

Mel's explanations are always dumb, she a 🐦

[@claualexis1737]

Wrong AF. And this is the exact thing I´ve been saying about people trying to diminish Mel´s female pov in conversations. Se made a valid point cuz how on earth we going to have massive impactful movies like The Exorcist and The Omen, or even recently as The Nun and etc... and call it ICONIC and go in herds to see them but when its applied into music is a whole different pearl-clutching type of reaction. Like she said Its a very profitable sub-genre of cinema. Flip the one who made the dumb comment about "Music is Music and Movies are Movies" Go on Einstein! Movies and Music are both equally intertwined into pop culture and the masses and its always been like that. You dont have to agree with Doja "artistic" expression (i myself think this rollout has been messy af) but thats ok. Thats subjective to everybody. Dont like it, go on listen gospel then. who cares?

[@MrPiccalo3000]

@@claualexis1737lol they’re different. Music isn’t taken in the same way as film and that’s the difference. Music is more influential not necessarily because of the products, but how the respective products are taken in. Music can be heard subliminally more often throughout the day, requiring less concentration. A movie, unless it’s constantly on in front of you can only have such an impact on society because it’s not constantly being reinforced. That’s why bad songs on the radio become good songs if you hear it enough times. A movie, though impactful, is limited by access and therefore not constantly being reinforced.

[@brooklyn_breaux]

I'M A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST AND I LOVE DOJA CAT. IF YOU KNOW HER, SHE DOES THIS. SHE'S VERY ARTISTIC AND VISUALS ARE PART OF THE PACKAGE. SHE MAY ALSO MAKE A SONG WITH VISUALS IN MIND. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MANY OFFENDED PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AMONGST US.

[@amayabaker5809]

I now realize that we have to stop with the demonic panic bc why there are so many things that many consider demonic once we start thinking art is demonic and symbolism is demonic that when we find ourselves anxious filled messes and anxiety is not of God.

[@artheals8869]

Mel is on point. The reaction y’all having is exactly what Doja is hoping for. Don’t talk about music leading younger people when Joe was just talking about how he didn’t want to hear all that “positive shit” in music just the other week 😂😂 Kanye wasn’t fucking frowned upon for putting out a gospel album, he was criticized because he poses as this heavy follower of Jesus and then does un-Christian things in the media the very next day. And also the album was ass.

[@sdotkdot21]

Ye’s Jesus is King album was great! What are you talking about? 🧐

[@stuartchilongozi2439]

80% of Joe's music is positive

[@ElShmiablo]

​@@stuartchilongozi2439100% of Joe's music is ass.

[@marissaferro8865]

If you haven't listened to a piece of music, you have no business critiquing it. It's ridiculous. So much time wasted in chatter, when they should have just watched the video and/or listened to the audio track FIRST, and THEN spent the next 8 minutes dissecting it. And I say this as a musician with a WIDE variety in taste of music and artists.

[@captjohnson5452]

If you had someone from the 1930s here today they would think the world ended and this must be hell.

[@crystal25288]

Her whole album slaps no way is she gonna fail 😂

[@princedame9534]

🤡

[@devinallen4367]

We live in a lost world SMH

[@ameliaberry285]

100

[@jordanj9069]

If you think ‘oooooh she a devil, she a bad little bitch she a rebel’ is something that ‘slaps,’ and the basic as fuck rhyme, basic as fuck melody isn’t anything better than basic as fuck, I don’t know what to tell you

[@hashslingingslasher4214]

Only sold 75,000 sooo hmmm idk

[@jordyntaylor877]

Here we go with know-it-all Melissa. Doja cat is not a Gemini she is a Libra

[@adeyowodunni5011]

She gotta eat nw

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

I've always liked Doja Cat look and voice. The more outrageous she gets the more I seem to admire her. Let that young woman be herself.

[@orster2076]

nah

[@mariyaknight6645]

Doja is brilliant. Leave her alone. These green flip flops ain’t slapping 😂

[@lolaboom374]

What i find to be so funny is how theyll sit around & have a whole discussion about how disgusted they are about Doja's imagery/art but will say nothing when it comes to these male rappers rapping & depicting drugs, violence & disrespect to women? So thats ok? And keep in mind the amount of young kids that listen to that as well Smh see and thats why their opinions holds no weight on this topic.

[@Ejohns1004]

Wow! I can't believe that you're pro Nazi and pro slavery. Just because you aren't actively denouncing something every second of every day doesn't mean that you are endorsing it.

[@RonDonProductions]

Absolutely! The hypocrisy is ridiculous. They'll praise labels like Griselda who almost solely talk about selling drugs and murder, real things that destroy communities 😂

[@christopherlewis2194]

Yeah because female rap and r&B have always bigged man in the most positive ways SMFH

[@jarenfromvenus]

Y’all need to stop trying to force people to be ok with what you’re ok with.

[@lolaboom374]

@@jarenfromvenus At what point did I say others must feel the same way I feel about it? All I did was call out the hypocrisy & offer a fair comparison. And if someone is being completely one-sided then IMO that person's opinion holds no weight. Hate it or love it but I stand on what I said.

[@ChrisDodges123]

Anybody pushing Satanism....to hell with them.

[@FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat]

AMEN! Lest they repent….

[@ankletaker2729]

If that was the response ya “Christian sister” gave you then ya sister ain’t no Christian

[@seansimms6693]

True. Just because one calls themselves a Christian doesn’t make them one.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Who wants to be a Christian anyway? Sheep of mankind and organized religion? 🤔

[@celestialnubian]

Black people will never be free till they break off the shackles of silly religion.

[@chreed5837]

I think she has always been finding herself. She has never been consistent as far as the sound of her music. She’s just evolving. I also think her being famous makes her want to troll and dig deeper. Like her or not but female or male artists aren’t as daring as her.

[@jakoby757]

Yeah she's built her own lane by being herself

[@CO0000]

Lil Nas X fool

[@chreed5837]

@@CO0000 I think you wanna compare Lil Nas x to his “demonic” aesthetic to Dojas when I’m talking about reinventing brand, production, quality and lyric ability. Lil Nas comes off as intentional shock value with no real entertainment or substance behind it.

[@gonzalodelbarrio6378]

It's called selling ur soul not being daring fool smh

[@chreed5837]

@@gonzalodelbarrio6378 lol ok tinfoil hat

[@jerrylewis788]

The sexual tension between Ish and Mel is so funny!!!

[@statpadford]

the irony of them playing devils advocate in this topic

[@luciditylove441]

Everyone's entitled to her own opinion. So here's mine everyone is looking at the image she is putting out. Not at the lyrics. Rap is about lyrics And she got a lot to say in my opinion

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

Didn’t we go through this in the 80’s with heavy metal music?

[@dawb86]

In the 50s with blues/rock and roll in general?

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

@@dawb86 no, I’m specifically talking about the devil worship moral panic of the 1980’s where the same lame ass argument was made in regards to negatively influencing children.

[@dawb86]

@@matthewvaneyk4713 no I get what you're saying lol. there's a reason they've been having this same argument since the BEGINNINGS of pop music's influence on American culture. when you think about it, the Blues was literally the secular offshoot of gospel (emphasis on the secular, as in worldly) and all Western culture pop music is rooted in that, folk and jazz elements and pop LITERALLY gets its name from being not just marketed to a particular group but created and designed to appeal to the largest amount of the masses as possible....

[@matthewvaneyk4713]

@@dawb86 ok I hear what you’re saying about pop music being used as a scapegoat in one way or another but in the context of this particular type of “devil worship”, the only other genre and era to face the exact same criticism is the heavy metal music scene of the 1980s.

[@NC-bm3uy]

And look at you all now.

[@jonsnow300]

DOJA CAT MUSIC IS FIRE.

[@KeithMercury]

Melissa Ford = Shock Value

[@matthewngwenda6095]

I think Doja is just taking jabs at the industry and the market. Also depicting herself as a demon maybe to claim that she is fully aware of what power music holds even on her. She may very well be playing at the whole "Satan was the main music guy in heaven" angle. Maybe suggesting we will never not see the influence of "him" in the music space. Or she could just be getting us talking - in which case she did y'all! And the "Attention" joint is hard and slaps.

[@dawb86]

I think ALL the artists that use all the Illuminati/satanic images in the videos know what they're doing and the fact that none lost any large amount of their fanbase with it (Rihanna, Jay-Z, Beyonce, etc) just proves the fact....

[@jenna9531]

exactly!!! She is straight up trolling, anyone that is dumb enough to believe that this girl is demonic is living under a damn rock LOL. it is basically comical to me. Scarlet is a character, and she is showing her devil side, and her angel side., especially in the new song she washes off Scarlet and shows her softer side with the angel and devil sides. People need to open up their minds, and if you know anything about true satanism you would clearly know that they do NOT actually worship satin, they actually believe totally different, and in mother earth, animals and it is nothing like people think. The main thing is people need to educate themselves and that is the main issue here. And anyone that says "She should Fail" Good luck, as she is number 1 right now and has 3 top Billboard charting singles.

[@Icarus.00]

This is the exact same way Joe and others use to talk about Tyler the creator and look at him now

[@BAYLOR8590]

Then Amala drops the album and the mic 🎤 on Joe 😅😂❤

[@nathanielblades7671]

I agree with Mel 100%, Doja Cat is literally trolling yall and yall fell for it. Some of yall take things way too seriously. Some of yall arent hearing what shes actually saying in her new music but your so focused on what shes wearing or what shes projecting. And Joe talking bout "I hope she fails" yet shes already winning!!!

[@Parisroam]

She already won 😭 her music career is already far more successful than Joe’s ever was. Lmao name 5 joe Buddon songs

[@nathanielblades7671]

@Parisroam Don't nobody know that raggedy ass man or his songs but he got so much to say 😭😭

[@nalyzamariano9634]

So no one thinks it’s weird the “powers that be” go to marketing idea is always dress up like the devil 😈

[@Xo-xz6vi]

Unfortunately majority are sheep and are not spirtual. All I see are people with no relationship with God

[@jazzymae8717]

If u just heard the music it’s dope. Its when them visuals come into play u be side eyeing some shyt like girl are u ok 🥴🥴🥴🥴🤦🏿‍♀️

[@kingofnara]

Right

[@dawb86]

So many so-called great artists would not be considered as such if it was all just about the music....

[@polesiren8516]

Doja Cat new album is fire and she made hip hop history not too long ago so maybe them spirts are helping her lol

[@Dheal88]

Lol

[@bluarktober]

I’ve been told y’all Mel is a witch ima always stand on that

[@MarcAndrewII]

It’s funny that ppl defend it by saying imagery is nothing. They clearly don’t study symbology and the vibrations of the symbols. She was also humming the word devil, has demonic tattoos, and I saw her crying going crazy before. She’s the epitome of the industry. And yes she is one of the best female artists that’s undeniable.

[@Nettamorphosis]

I don’t think they’re saying it’s nothing as much as they’re saying it’s no worse than the media that’s conspicuously deemed acceptable. The lady here gave the example of demon movies. Another more relevant example is, rappers discussing murdering ppl… no one bats an eye. Lol

[@VinnieDangerous]

Same thing with violence in the music but ppl just pass that off as “just entertainment” 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@darkskinwhite]

​@@VinnieDangerousDoja cat is a regular attractive girl. Not only would she be just fine without music, but she could do music without all the extra shit (which i personally have no problem with, dont bother me a bit). Street rappers on the other hand, the ones who are actually street, don't have nothin else. Disenfranchised & disadvantaged, Hiphop is a way for them to take their (typically disabling) flaws & use them to their advantage. Without it they would be trapped in the street digging themselves deeper into the hole to survive. So I get where you're coming from but it's not truly the same because the contexts are so wildly different.

[@jamariwalker2435]

So because Europeans labeled all these things the world supposed to follow and believe.

[@kjk607]

​@@VinnieDangerousor violence in video games

[@AfricanUrbnLegend]

Joe is always talking about somebody's music, not slapping. Sir, you have 1 gold single😂😂😂

[@R30STV]

People Idolizing Doja Cat saying “Let her be herself are the same ones idolizing Her and will follow her into hell the Bible says idolize no one but God

[@tylerm993]

That chick is sick and y'all know it. I don't relate to y'all cats defending this. Even if you don't believe in God or the Devil you understand the principle behind good & bad. It's not something to glorify/promote

[@inTha803]

well said

[@Bvzz47]

Yet these are the same people that praise drill rappers and sexy red. She puts on a costume and glues on some fake devil horns and this is where you draw the line?

[@mikielwade7109]

@@Bvzz47Well instead of pointing fingers and undermining what doja is doing, just you your own mind to notice there all bad influences for there target audience which is actually kids

[@Bvzz47]

@@mikielwade7109 I don’t see Doja cat as a bad influence on a level anywhere near most industry artist. It’s not even close. That’s my point. Why are we pointing the finger at her in the first place

[@Bvzz47]

@@mikielwade7109 didn’t cardi b and Meg pretty much just drop another trash WAP2.0 and no one cares about the influence on kids then. Ice spice is on Fortnite, wheres the uproar “for the kids”

[@Meds1000MD]

Aye Doja got some of the best bars male or fenale. She creative af..

[@usernotfound904]

JOE BUDDEN IS A POWER BOTTOM! 👊🏿🏳️‍🌈

[@iamworthy1302]

You weird

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

You could say he likes a man to... Pump pump pump it up 😂

[@KennethBryant86]

So promoting the devil is not a problem to what the hell is happening

[@user-gs5fe8gv5r]

Women will never see Satanism for what it is

[@cheatingscoobydoo]

Mel has a point, and that’s exactly why i don’t watch demonic movies. I don’t watch exorcist, insidious, etc.

[@serene5077]

Doja Cat will not fail. She won’t be cancelled either.

[@ManniLive]

Have fun worshipping a devil worshipper

[@WavyMrRager]

These mfers built a career off the culture of making music about drugs, murder and gang shit but a "devil worshiper" pops up and its "think of the kidsssss"

[@ScruFaceJeanOfficial]

You can’t argue logic with religious people fam.

[@CDSXCalibur]

I felt the performance 🎭

[@DippedInInk]

No matter what ppl may feel the album is super incredible. Album of the year!!!!!!!!

[@carlycoppi4769]

Yessss amazing album ❤❤❤

[@DippedInInk]

@@carlycoppi4769 love the vibes and pro male level of positivity

[@nopressurenodiamonds5566]

Eazy!

[@ameliaberry285]

There are definitely slaps to be found

[@Dizzinator2114]

Some folk just don’t like to play with certain things and have lines they don’t cross.

[@rebootdrobot]

Funny how people defend evil as if its not evil.

[@christiandeville17]

Too bad she not gone fail and she got a no.1 billboard hit again

[@adrienneconner5744]

To me what she is doing is no different than the weekend and all that crap with his last album. She’s attached a theme to the work. Doesn’t mean she’s out here conjuring spirits and crap. Nobody had an issue when he was walking around in character and making weird videos

[@youngmafi5609]

This woman tryna justify satanism LMFAO 🤣

[@chantellovesyouhh]

Mel is the only sensible one in the room. It’s not Doja’s job to raise your kids. Not everyone is a devout christian. If seeing demons and devils spooks your soul, that’s okay. She’s an artist, and this project is her art. If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Paint the town red was #1 on Billboard so idk what Joe is referring to when he says she has no “slaps.”

[@boombooma608]

I USED TO LIKE DOJA...SHE LOST HERSLEF

[@Tone213]

She been lost, only difference is she got money

[@WALKERthisISmyLastName]

perhaps she wasn’t herself at 1st and now this is her.

[@Whatisahandlehuh]

The fact you even “used to” says more bout this statement then anything.

[@chreed5837]

I think she has always been finding herself. She has never been consistent as far as the sound of her music. She’s just evolving. I also think her being famous makes her want to troll and dig deeper. Like her or not but female or male artists aren’t as daring as her.

[@imactuallysotoxic8709]

Doja has consistently been a crazy bitch. This the same Doja.

[@r-legemusic8034]

I do agree with music being influential to young people. However people pick and choose what they wanna judge and not judge. It’s all entertainment at the end of the day let’s keep it real! Also good and bad exist in the world that’s facts.

[@bbybxnmi]

Art is to be imitated, and imitation is also art. An ongoing cycle that can either be for better or for worse

[@TheAspiringSaint]

Mel is either spiritually blind or capping

[@lukehogan2508]

"Great power comes with great responsibility" 😂😂😂

[@redhotrush3220]

Lol Flip threw that shit in randomly

[@geraldjordan6419]

Its no difference what Beyonce does in her music video

[@ChrisDodges123]

When tf has Beyonce dressed as a demon?????

[@geraldjordan6419]

@@ChrisDodges123 not dressed as a demon but showed symbolic demon signs

[@Raquel986]

@@ChrisDodges123watch black is king she dressed up as all sorts of deities

[@Etpsenior7ohFoe]

4:38 “what do you think about that parks?” 👀😂😂

[@JAPANESEJENN]

Girl she is not a GEMINI she is a LIBRA 😒

[@donknock-offs]

I’m with Joe Lmao

[@tjackson4824]

Doja is lyrically a beast fasho. I honestly think shawty is tryin to appeal to more of her ⚪audience because the things she's doing isnt conventionally associated with hip hop. The dark imagery, the weirdness and quirkiness often times is seen with rock bands and alternative music genres. She's in her bag but I took her " demons" as her haters but maybe I'm misinterpreting it sht....just speaking my opinion forreal lol 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dansuduhast1051]

Other rappers raping about killing and fcking constantly and thats fine, but raping using metaphors and horror movie elements is going "too far"

[@ihateflatbunz]

The Demonic shit is where we finally find our moral compass but we are ok with the ratchet twerk rap these artist do like our kids wont pick up on that bs?

[@michaelwright7034]

“Paint The Town Red” becomes the first rap song in HISTORY to chart in all 72 countries, just saying

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Pretty sure there's more than 72 countries...

[@divasbraidz]

Demon slaps hard as fuck the beat in the club is sick

[@CharleyHale]

Guess I’m lost, where’s the worshipping part? The devil is scary in the music video and she creatively tied in other horror movies

[@thecolormahogany2000]

“Grow A SET AND BE YOU” Nigga Ice still got me dyin😂😂

[@thf6027]

Doja cat is a dope creative rapper who is at the top of the heap in terms of lyricism and artistry.

[@yadasizani2065]

People mad she praising the devil but bump song about cheating, killing people and extorting men. Makes no sense mane😏😏🤦‍♂

[@liteflightify]

She’s not even “praising” the devil. She’s using that imaginary because folks started claiming she’s a “satanist” just because she cut her hair and started wearing “weird” clothes. So, she leaned into it for an era. There are a ton of hip-hop songs literally hyping up cheating, killing people, selling drugs. Yet, nigg@‘s bump to them every day. It just screams fake Christian outrage.

[@khaIid624]

They're just hurt she doesn't like them

[@asamac1234]

It's not a right to be a devil worshiper,it's evil, they believe in murder and sacrifice and hatred that's not a right

[@medicoleman5247]

I just wanna know why she was in a child’s room

[@TheChriscorey]

Movies hire actors to pretend to be a person they are not. Musicians pour their lives into their art. Most of the time, It reflects their life experiences and beliefs. This could be very influential if the artist has success. Moral of the debate, use your own mind.

[@dawb86]

Watch 'The Matrix.' Your "mind" can be used against you as well if you've been taught to believe things that aren't true...

[@BeyondAbsolute3]

Aye shawty got this all backwards. As a Christian we don’t mess with any of it. Not the movies, not the secular music, none of it. You’re literally capping for the whole satanic industry talking about “it’s art, doja is an artist” the devil is a deception artist and the world is his playground. This lady needs to stop

[@TheReDragonTT]

Stop it, Joe. The track slaps and the beat is worth a whole Cipher. Swear. Doja just gonna do Doja and be extra all the damn time is all.