Joe Jackson interviews Jimmy Savile 2001. Attempting to unmask a monster.

[@stuartmiller7419]

Fascinating stuff, Joe. Your reaction to him admitting that he'd never been in love shows just how little we actually understood about this psychopath in 2001. It also juxtaposes with all the 'duchess' crap he used to come out with, which was evidently more about using his mother as an image marketing tool than anything to do with what we all understand as love and respect for another human being. The common theme? Using others for your own gain. Also, the very idea that the BBC are releasing a licence-funded drama (that they will sell and make money from overseas) about a (known to them) paedophile that they helped to shelter and promote just goes to show why they are on the brink of extinction for not being in touch with the people they are supposed to be serving. Thanks for sharing.

[@JoeElvis2009]

And thank you Stuart for such an insightful and truthful response

[@borrance]

Thanks for uploading this

[@westminsterwatcher5152]

Fascinating interview!

[@JoeElvis2009]

In a weird way it is

[@yuudoooo]

This is brilliant. It definitely doesn't sound like you were taken in by him to me. If you didnt say otherwise id think you had suspicions about what we already know here, I think he had that impression anyway. The headline in the paper and photo are a fairly strong hint at that to me. I thought you pushed back more than id heard from his other interviews. Generally interviewers seemed intimidated by him, whereas you sounded dismissive even laughing at a lot of his answers. It came across to me that he didn't think he was convincing you and sounded a little uncertain of how he was coming across. Thanks for sharing.

[@JoeElvis2009]

Thanks for paying such close attention to the interview and for your comments. I appreciate it.

[@davegaskell7680]

Very interesting, and thanks for sharing. It's difficult to listen to his answers and not be influenced by what has emerged after his death....but I did try to listen to it that way. To be fair, if you do attempt to listen to him without the inevitable prejudice that we, quite rightly, feel against him, he sort of comes across pretty well. That being said, people that get away with the crimes that he got away with for so long are generally expert at coming across pretty well. Good interview. Thanks again for sharing.

[@JoeElvis2009]

Interesting response, Dave, thank you.

[@CameronCopus-r2s]

I think you've been unfair with yourself it was a very insightful interview it was the first time Ive ever heard anyone ask him about the necrophilia rumours and he seemed really uncomfortable when you asked him about having kids of his own it seemed that he used the people around him as a diversion technique to get out of answering it that's probably why he held the interview in a canteen in the first place

[@fhurley8447]

Love this, thank you

[@JoeElvis2009]

Glad you do, thank you

[@version736ha2]

Dan Davies book is a great read.

[@Mr.Grimsdale]

You say 'that all we know about Savile (correction Saville) was not known during his lifetime' No offence but you are completely wrong, how was it that myself and all my mates knew about all him being a kiddie feeler, having his own key to Stoke Mandeville and being into necro...... and that was in 1978 ! just before John Lydon spoke out about Saville on tv, it was well known to many at that time, we were just teenage lads up North and word got around, (not just about him but also about a former PM) He was interviewed many times by the Police in connection with Yorkshire Ripper case, one of the bodies was found not far from Savilles flat. Saville said on the Louis Theroux programme (later edited out) "They can't touch me because of what i know" and whatever he knew was the reason why he got away with what he did.

[@joejackson248]

I meant those of us in the media. And it is widely accepted that the extent of his abuse was not widely known.

[@MyFriendTillTheEnd]

Everytime a news paper called him out he’d sue them!. The problem everyone had was there was no victims coming forward. So the sun and everyone else had no choice but to keep shut.

[@mrsbee5056]

You are a natural psychic. I wouldn't be surprised if you have seen the light ones travelling around or in this case...felt the dark ones which lived inside Savill. These were released into the world to find a new home in his death.

[@JoeElvis2009]

Your first line is not unlike a Native American said to me 30 years ago, and with which Tori Amos, agreed. They said I am a "medium", but I shy away from such phrases. But I do know I am highly empathetic, and now that I am older, I choose carefully those I allow anywhere near me! Thanks for listening and for your inspiring and insightful comment.

[@version736ha2]

20:55 reminds me of Paul Sykes😂

[@danielt8960]

It's..........Sharks 🦈

[@liamthomas2494]

You and louis theroux didn't really seem interested in what he had to say the way you interviewed him like Louis was like you were trying to catch him out over something you've assumed and to this day we don't really know what savile was.

[@JoeElvis2009]

@@liamthomas2494 thanks for listening but there’s nothing in your response to reply to

[@liamthomas2494]

@@JoeElvis2009 You obviously have your own way of interviewing but I feel that you didn't seem that interested in what he had to say like when you got on about the topic of clubs you could have asked Jimmy about his time when he was a DJ at discotheques in Leeds like at the Mecca which is now in victoria gate. Jimmy had a flat above the Mecca, he had discotheques in Manchester as well, his time in Manchester isn't well documented it would have been nice to hear about that. Jimmy spent his first week in showbiz with Cliff Richard and he was the first DJ to be asked for top of the pops plus he was a DJ with radio luxembourg when it was pirate radio with other disc jockeys like Dave lee Travis, Tony Blackburn and Noel Edmonds. Jim'll fix it was the first programme of it's kind for young working class kids, Blue peter was more to do with the scouts. You could have asked him if he had a personal favourite fix it like that episode when he took that young lad from the strawberry fields orphanage over to Israel to educate him about the pilgrimage sites. What Jimmy did with the intercity 125 the first high speed rail in Britain which saved British rail at the time after the beeching cuts he led the campaign with them age of the train adverts. How he miraculously got a green beret would have been an interesting question as well. His relationship with royalty as well, Michael Parkinson found a way to get him to speak about prince Philip. I believe that Jimmy's legacy shouldn't be completely erased like it has he still did a lot of good in his life.

[@slimjim4239]

dont you know its different for girls

[@JoeElvis2009]

Look sharp

[@thejoejacksoninterviews4207]

Thanks for listening to it