Joe Rogan Debates Moon Landing Conspiracy Theorist

[@rottdawg5838]

If Kubrick staged the moon landing it would have needed about 185 takes

[@lewdachris7721]

If Kubrick directed the moon landing he would’ve Insisted on filming on location

[@PodcastCringe]

lolll underrated comment… I appreciate this 😂

[@WellToastedBagel]

Unless a Leopard is involved, then it would have only taken a few takes out of respect to the actor risking being mauled by said Leopard.

[@tkb1tx]

Pre-recorded homie

[@battlecruiserna]

if you have to fool everybody it better be as perfect as you can make it.

[@666slateran666]

I didnt even know Jamie could talk that much

[@randomsht196]

Last time I saw Jamie speak Rogan gave him a death stare, I thought he wasn't allowed to speak.

[@MavDillain]

Young Jamie fired up

[@tylerdurden788]

​@@randomsht196he has his moments

[@MavDillain]

@@tylersypherd5461 what happened to Redban?

[@SirRichardHardenThicke]

​@@MavDillain Him not knowing when to STFU, and Olive Garden.

[@OlYables]

Joe is confusing the concept of a "steel man" argument with the "Man of Steel" argument, which claims that Superman flew the astronauts to the moon and back.

[@seskafuzen4616]

The straw man is still waiting for a brain

[@stein4866]

@@seskafuzen4616lmaoooo

[@blinkybill2198]

Lol yeah pretty sure he meant Straw man

[@sage8573]

He doesn't even use the term correctly.

[@Sam-tx1tn]

@@blinkybill2198no. Look up straw man. This is not what he meant.

[@BenGrimm977]

this is the guy that got punched by Buzz Aldrin

[@Scawell]

rightfully

[@copium5050]

@@Scawell to the alcohol-brained

[@sebfettel]

He made a great movie that has never been debunked

[@intello8953]

@@sebfettelwhat has never been debunked?

[@sdeezn89]

Greatest video online

[@HollywoodH4T3R]

2001 - A.i. Clockwork Orange - Mk Ultra The Shining - ritual abuse Full Metal Jacket - duality of man Eyes wide shut - the elite

[@Shmevinshmerck4540]

Is this Jay Dyer?

[@Isaiah538]

It seems overall Kubrick was either trying to warn us, or show us as a karmic excuse and to build the fear just before evil people murder.

[@KyleBillie]

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." "Its a big club and you ain't in it."- George Carlin

[@karkkimarkkinat2109]

Jay Dyer sp far is pretty much right about everything ​@@Shmevinshmerck4540

[@winstonalexander3948]

Jamie pulled his balls up for this podcast.

[@wigmaster7894]

You can always predict within 10 seconds when joe will say ‘gulf of Tonkin’

[@OlYables]

Usually followed by "Operation Northwoods."

[@pablomogollon9596]

And goblebeteple

[@phillipterrance4171]

It says something about the US governments of those times... a false flag here and there to get what you want seemed to be the norm rather than an accidental situation

[@garden0fstone736]

Followed by covid

[@Wizzy678]

​@@phillipterrance4171yet he believes in every war issue the us is into now he believe in supporting ukraine and 1srael

[@fu3g]

"stfu jammie. ok now where were we..? oh yea steel men..."

[@patconroy1874]

Joe salivates every time he thinks about steel men

[@mishmohd]

when the mask fell off

[@Quack_attack_]

Lmao

[@Machiwi-vo9nb]

Idk if y’all know but Jamie got an A+ in physics in college or highschool

[@SauceOnChickenBall]

University....

[@seething-obama]

so what?

[@AloisWeimar]

It’s an anti intellectual whine that is couched as just a joke

[@Freud_Mayweather]

​@@AloisWeimarit would be more of a zinger if he'd pick one and not say high school or college can't be indecisive with your insults

[@KIDKorRupt24]

​@@AloisWeimar Bro if anyone who isn't a physicist says " i got an A in Physics" they deserved to be ridiculed. I think the earth is a globe and I think we went to the moon. Its just so dumb to reference you physics class in college as if that makes you an authority on physics in any way. You have to see the comedy in that right?

[@pointmanzero]

I ate like an entire pound of pumpkin seeds yesterday while watching football and now I'm struggling on the toilet tonight. Pray for me.

[@Bigchillen321]

Bite your lip and giver hell

[@SMacCuUladh]

that must have been like sh!!!ing a chainsaw.

[@isaac21r]

How you holding up bud ?

[@pointmanzero]

@@isaac21r oh I'm 👍 thanks for asking.

[@isaac21r]

@@pointmanzero good to hear brother

[@jd35711]

"halfway to the moon the earth would look like a tiny dot" is the dumbest f thing I've heard today, and i spent hours on twitter this afternoon

[@liam.p.johnston]

This guy sounds so much like Wallace Shawn I keep expecting this guy to say “inconceivable”.

[@kat_likemeow]

My first thoughts as well!

[@StacksOnBricks]

OMG! I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else thought the same! The similarity is uncanny!

[@InsShogunGage]

Lmmfao 😆 omfg 😂😂😂 im dead bro underated AF

[@jondepaul2372]

Vizzini, the Sicilian! “That’s what’s so funny. I switched glasses when your back was turned.”

[@jondepaul2372]

Yeah, same guy 😂

[@upset_banana]

"The Moon is a big-ass fvckin' thing." - Joe Rogan

[@MrDeadman-ed7ml]

😂

[@1future797]

“It’s entirely possible there’s DMT on the dark side of the moon” - Joe Rogan

[@Underpantsniper]

It really is big

[@jackvanlierop6090]

so based...

[@markjackson3531]

no lies!

[@ProjectileGrommet]

For anyone who doesn’t know, “steel-man” isn’t just devils advocate, but specifically a “even in the best case scenario where your argument is true, here’s why it still doesn’t work”

[@29memyselfandi]

Thanks, I’d never heard the phrase before and was wondering.

[@Octavian2]

That'd not muly understanding of a steel man. A steel man would be reciting my opponents argument to the be of my ability and to show why it would be true. The point is to show that I can understand exactly what my opponents argument is. Because why debate if you don't understand the opposing view?

[@ProjectileGrommet]

@@Octavian2 the displaying of understanding in a steelman is more to illustrate why you can refute the opposing argument even in the best case scenario supporting their argument The point isn’t showing understanding, the point is using understanding to display that even if you understand the argument perfectly, it still sucks because of all of your counter arguments

[@Octavian2]

@ProjectileGrommet I suppose inevitably it's to show why you can refute the argument. But it kind of goes without saying because that's the whole point of debate.. In any event, it is useful and should be done more.

[@RosieRoserules]

I also had never Heard the phrase before and I considered myself very well read

[@TommyZeus-i8n]

"Space maybe the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement."

[@septimfyre]

californicatiooonnn

[@jonosterman2878]

If you know anything about kurbrick and his personal life, he never would have worked with the US gov on anything, let alone a piece of progaganda. He fled the US and Hollywood for England for a reason. He was intensely private and hated popular politics, and all he wanted to do was stay at home, play with cats and computers, and read and write and make more films.

[@jesus_is_coming7751]

He made a movie about secret societies, he was probably a government asset in all likelihood, just like Rogan is

[@MarvinMcMartin]

Then how could he have NASA film lenses on loan when he made BARRY LYNDON?

[@pewp89]

Guilt

[@adamflores5027]

​@@pewp89are u sure u wanna use that brain dead logic?😂😂😂

[@gggz420]

i’m not saying i disagree but bro you don’t think the govt could force someone to do something?😂

[@timpoolssentientbeanie5646]

Put a nicotine pouch in every time Joe says steel man

[@Cam-nq8br]

I’m buzzing my head off now, thanks

[@isaacj.elliott2137]

Well now I'm dead.

[@taylorthecurator]

Damnit Lex

[@dbblues.9168]

I cant fit anymore 🤢

[@ryanh9262]

off to the hospital

[@Zuber260]

He sounds just like the dude from the Princess Bride…..inconceivable!

[@954buggy]

Real ones remember when Rogan used to go on radio shows and debate on the side of the moon landing being a hoax 😂🍻

[@Predictbauer]

Yea when he questioned everything, before he became controlled opposition willingly.

[@954buggy]

@@Predictbauer yep, 100% sold out. There’s actually info on him being connected to gov intelligence agencies now as well. Mathew North did an excellent breakdown years ago, it’s pretty buried but you can find it if you look hard enough

[@randomserbianguy5677]

What? A person can't have a change of perspective without being a government shill?

[@user-rt2sm5ny5r]

@@954buggy definitely worth the watch, is the 2 hour version the only one or were there any more?

[@954buggy]

@@user-rt2sm5ny5r I’m glad you enjoyed it.. there’s a lot of info in there and he does an excellent job connecting dots. Yea it’s 2 hours and change.. He used to make excellent video breakdowns about what really goes on in the world currently and through history. It’s widely speculated that he got killed because of this because many of his topics were “off-limits”

[@nintendad1166]

Also, you know you're 'over the target' when KZbin overlords have to stamp your vid with a context warning label lol

[@djuro14]

Ok flattard.

[@jordanthomas4379]

0:13 I don’t know if Jamie went to film school, (I personally did), but it certainly sounds like Jamie is doing exactly what I’d be doing, literally anyone with a basic understanding of film technology and camera workings, can easily debunk Barts claims, it is so frustrating when Joe almost reliably decides to protect his guests from criticism in order to defend the flow of conversation.

[@jordanthomas4379]

@@jone8626 actually a few. Do you have any other questions? Mr moon-landing truther.

[@yaoi5044]

@@jordanthomas4379and he never responded:(

[@Octavian2]

​@@jordanthomas4379I'm pretty agnostic on the whole moon landing thing. It stays in the realm of interesting thought experiments and fun speculation for me. I'd recommend Dave McGowans 'Wagging the moon doggy' for a well written conspiracy essay on the moon landing. I think he does really interesting work. But again, I'm agnostic on the subject.

[@timbohslice123]

Could go the rest of my life without hearing the term steel man

[@burroughs334]

Steel men create good times…. Good times create straw men. Straw men follow the yellow brick road…

[@elikerr785]

Now you're just straw manning the argument.

[@HeavyLefty]

What about men of steel/ man of steal

[@mariobtron5907]

@@burroughs334 tin isn't steel

[@burroughs334]

@@mariobtron5907 I wasn’t making that allusion, but yes.

[@catfracker1319]

Whenever PC says “Bart” I immediately think he’s talking about Bert

[@brendanf8969]

Yes!!

[@Matsonius]

Bort?

[@Liquidian]

A straw man argument is when someone sets up and then disputes an assertion that is not actually being made. A Steelman argument is simply the opposite of a strawman. It is a technique that presents the other person's case in the strongest possible form.

[@TheGreatDane8D]

Pseudo-scientist Chris Dunn? Are you drunk when you write these scripts?

[@raging100]

ooooh jamie dropping in with some balls for once lmao

[@projectchaney]

Brogan’s handler.

[@DG-kr8pt]

Guy has longer hair than my gf is medically tarded.

[@squatchit5700]

He sounded like he was going to cry.

[@nelson187reyes2]

Kurbrik was such a perfectionist that they went to the moon to film the landing

[@gangstaelegantproductions2780]

Only accurate takeaway

[@sinclairj7492]

But it would’ve f’ed up his footage 🤪

[@feelyoung79]

You think a rocket taking off wouldn't have moon dust everywhere? How about landing with the camera getting the perfect shot!? They had color for the visuals but pushed black n white.. how about bubbles in space? How about taking footage of that thing we're on?

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Steel man needs his own podcast...

[@Leeside999]

😂

[@chanceneck8072]

22:03 "Shut the fuck up, Jamie and pull up that video of that bear in space!"

[@jasonlloyd3335]

I can see why Buzz clocked him.

[@integrativenaturalmedicine3897]

You're supporting the lie.

[@rashadd2615]

@@integrativenaturalmedicine3897No you’re supporting this tinfoil head who has been debunked 100s of times

[@Slick_Rick859]

Buzz clocked him cause he knew Bart was right and putting his life in jeopardy

[@chonk1457]

Apparently its cause he called buzz a coward

[@thomasellwood9754]

@@chonk1457 he called him a liar, fake and fraud, he got the smack in the mouth for calling him an unpatrioric american and a disgrace, if you ever see this youll want to punch him too haha

[@DusVen44]

Listening to this episode was tough. Bart constantly referred to his movies, books, and website. It was a 3-hour infomercial that made me think of televangelists begging for donations to buy a new private plane.

[@Rgotto2]

No you got it wrong just go to my website or go to chapter 13 of my book.

[@Rgotto2]

No man, youve got it wrong just go to my websites or chapter 13 of my book

[@cheesezee86]

It's mighty convenient when you can source your own material

[@jamesasc7709]

Annie Jacobson vibes

[@mr.martyr8573]

That’s the only reason he was there. Lol

[@cartier567]

Joe went on to punish Jamie accordingly

[@Kipp274]

By rubbing sand in his young watery eyes.

[@bretmiller5839]

Jet fuel can't melt steel men

[@RossPfeiffer]

😂

[@grandcrowdadforde6127]

Ep Stain didn t kill himself..

[@-Gax-]

Of course, there was a controlled demolition. Think about it you topple two buildings and lose a couple thousand. Or, you let them fall and potentially lose tens of thousands. That's called The Backup Plan. Especially when crazy terrorists go crazy. Hate to be that guy, but plenty of buildings have rigs like this, and yes, I would push that button to save more people. It's the train problem, to a larger scale. Most would.

[@bretmiller5839]

@@-Gax- I don't think anyone was steel manning your argument...

[@Bloodshot_vsm]

Exactly. All the government does is lie.

[@ITS_ALL_LlES]

Generally, TJRE Podcast is NOT a ‘Debate Show’. If Joe, like most Podcasters, host a Guest, it’s to ask smart questions and allow the Guest to share their opinions and views - it’s not debate or challenge Guests. It’s up to the viewer to decide what they think, etc, and form their own opinions. (Obviously, Joe, like any host, are free to throw their own opinions in here & there if they want). Now, it’s another question completely whether a Debate or challenging makes better content and/or is what some viewers want to consume - but, generally, that’s not the role of a Podcast host. By your logic, virtually any Guest which Rogan has on - mainstream or alternative - there needs to be another person present to provide a counterpoint - that’s not a Podcast.

[@guts2484]

I mean, according to what I've researched. We went to the moon and then "lost" the technology to go back. Also, why hasn't any other first world country gone to the moon? We are not the only country with the tech and brain power to do it. I honestly have no idea if we went to the moon or if it was faked. I used to believe we went, but as I've gotten older and realized how much the government lies about things, it just has me questioning a lot of what they say happened vs what actually happened.

[@chrisjosekuehl]

There is no reason to go back, every nasal mission has to have a certain return on investment, what would be the purpose? Especially considering the risk of loss of life as well as the financial cost, to do what? Get more moon rocks that are mostly made up of earths crust material.

[@guts2484]

@chrisjosekuehl you're right. Their is absolutely no strategical benefit of going back. I mean, a lunar base would from which would be to set up some type of research facility that is not beneficial AT all.

[@LouisMenotti]

​@chrisjosekuehl the benefits of going back are potentially endless. The Musks of this world fantasise about Mars, will voyage into orbit but still no moon related projects.

[@sirchristopher7684]

I completely agree, but unfortunately people who tend to believe we went are highly dogmatic and get butt hurt when you pronounce your skepticism towards the moon landing.

[@frankslade33]

Beneficial for what, given the gigantic cost? Seriously what?

[@WellToastedBagel]

You've referred to Bert as Bart so often, that it threw me off that you genuinely were talking about a man named Bart, and not Bert Kreischer, lmao.

[@PodcastCringe]

lol I had to keep checking myself when I was recording… it felt so wrong

[@skepticalhippo6376]

You should just start calling him Burnt Chrysler like the rest of us Americans. It suits Berts career as well.

[@croatoansounds]

Haha I often forget that Burts name is Burt because of this channel. When people reference him in other podcasts it takes me a sec to be like “oh yea bUrt, thats bart, got it”

[@isyt1]

@@PodcastCringeSurprising considering Bert is a common name and the only person ever called Bart was in The Simpsons

[@uToop]

Jamie was about to cry 😂 probably because of all the trt Joe has him on

[@Tybolt1]

😂😂😂

[@Tybolt1]

Jamie's wilin fo respect 😂

[@Popdoc21]

Jamie got put on the spot to steelman and instead shit his drawers and cried

[@uToop]

@@Popdoc21 😂

[@UFC_Buffalo]

Jamie gets a little bratty lol.

[@Lane17774]

Moon landing = fake as hell. This coming from a professional photographer.

[@Mkultraumatic]

💯

[@StackssDinero]

This guys argument is essentially the definition of “trust me bro”

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Yeah....the government always tells us the truth! Now make sure to get your flu shot bro.

[@djuro14]

@@RoofDoctorsJoanne Gov. lies, so Moon hoax. Logic!

[@Interloper187]

This guy meaning Joe Rogan? The Moon landing is fake dude

[@RoofDoctorsJoanne]

Did Trade Center 7 just collapse because of office furniture catching on fire? LMAO

[@dispatchcenter1241]

So moon hoax. Lol

[@Joshwaheazo]

176,000 pounds flying at 547-575 mph - that's a plane, have you heard of a plane?

[@Joshwaheazo]

K = 1/2 mv^2 that's a big number.

[@Joshwaheazo]

A ton of TNT is 4184000000 joules. So it's about 3/4 of a ton of TNT going off. That's a fuck ton of explosives. Excuse the pun.

[@Joshwaheazo]

The jet fuel and other factors increase this to 100 tons apparently. I have no idea how to work that out though.

[@philg3759]

He got his degree from KZbin university

[@Support-your-local-team]

Even Hustlers University declined his application

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

I heard he got his PhD from the University of Reddit.

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

"Astronauts ... to the moon. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!" -- Beldar Conehead

[@mariobtron5907]

Dan Aykroyd is huge in the ufo movement. He's seen em.

[@Frank-uw5xq]

🤣 right, that is Dan.... interesting...Beldaaarrr🤣

[@dgeez123z]

heavy reply!

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

what would he know he is from france

[@Chaelsonen]

@@mariobtron5907 i think both his parents were ghost hunters? or something strange like that as well. Not sure but yeah hes always had a very weird take on things. Keeps it interesting though.

[@justintrimbull4334]

You can tell Joe just heard the term steel man lol

[@ricklopez7151]

Straw man??

[@dailygrindism]

Incredible content. These formats are replacing podcasts for me. Very entertaining.

[@livesteel]

Who knew Uncle Fester was a conspiracy theorist !

[@SirRichardHardenThicke]

Joe "Carlos MenSteelia Man" Rogan.

[@cheesezee86]

Did you steal that joke?

[@SirRichardHardenThicke]

@@cheesezee86 Honestly I hope not. Also my actual name isn't Sir Richard Thicke, I'm not even from England. Shoot. I probably stole the joke.

[@senorpepper3405]

I'm a firm believer that woman in their 20s and 30s should have atleast a little public hair. Even if it's just a landing strip.

[@richthomastones]

I think he means "steel person"

[@Sunesha]

lol

[@karansunola8415]

Jamie’s bond is over now, he is free man. No rogan can control him now.

[@raoulduke8720]

Jamies only appearance on the podcast and he sounds like hes about to start crying

[@Sol-Cutta]

BART SIBRELL - man who advocates free speach : has EVERY comments turned OFF

[@alrightlogan11]

I’m watching this podcast rn and you just uploaded this. What a coincidence, boutta watch this instead now

[@intello8953]

What’s hilarious Joe Rogan had actual astronauts on his podcast but didn’t have the guts to ask them if the moon landing is “fake” 🤦🏾‍♂️🙄

[@tjnucnuc]

Because no one would want to look that dumb. He did ask NDT.

[@intello8953]

@@tjnucnuc what do you mean? An astronaut would look dumb answering that question?

[@blackscreen1810]

Them not releasing the data about the radiation belt is very fishy. I can’t think of one good reason they wouldn’t do that.

[@user-RCST]

He was lying. You get 6 mSv per hour in the belts.

[@user-RCST]

@@jone8626 his request was completely insane when the information was already public

[@macmac9371]

@@user-RCSTyou sound dumb. Public inform is not true information. Requesting something certify is the standard

[@robosing225]

​@@user-RCSTthat's survivable.

[@Ally.Cat.252]

Dude looks like a bald Jeff Garlin

[@danielallen7384]

It's pretty evident the guy who made this video isn't in any way trying to look at this argument from an unbiased position. When he makes comments like "let's get back to his hoax argument." It's his theory argument.

[@Strype13]

That's because there is no argument to be had. One side is spewing absolute nonsense and ignoring any/all evidence that doesn't fit their narrative while the other side is utilizing empirical evidence and factual information. Like the "Flat Earth Theory," this subject is not even remotely debatable. We undeniably went to the moon and anybody arguing otherwise is either dangerously ignorant or has some sort of financial agenda (or both, like this intellectual toddler Bart, here).

[@endoffate5475]

Yea he's just repeating what we heard a million times already.. Dude can't come up with his own arguments and ideas. Like this stupid idea that NASA would fake photos even if they really went to the moon.. Give me a break lol They would never risk this and for what? Unless they went but then they lost everything.. Then I could kinda see why they would not want to disappoint the public. 😅

[@jeremypayne5078]

Im glad Jamie stood up about the seemingly intersecting light sources. I would sooner suppose that there's more than one light source or that the sun is being reflected off of the lander than use the angles of the shadows to assume the whole thing was fake. I'm amazed at this man's confirmation bias.

[@brage1027]

Every time you say “Bart” I assume you’re talking about Bart Kershner lol

[@darkdeepred6577]

I like it when Jamie pipes up. His voice sounds like a 16 kbps mp3

[@jacksoncapper]

Joe didn't do a great job. Counter-arguments, if required, should be specific and reasonable. Joe's counter-argument was often just "but what if everyone just hallucinated"?

[@migzydrift]

Toe learned a new phrase! “Steel man” 🤖 🤣🤣🤣🥋🥔

[@JannyBesmircher]

You can always tell when someone learns a new word because they try to use it as often as they can lol

[@VulgarBeyondSteel]

Some would say the steeliest

[@Shroomunati]

Jamie was scolded heavily for this.

[@danksidoodles]

So many JRE “hot potatoes” lately 😊

[@s.a.a.4853]

Conragts for chanell, finaly short version of podcasts

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

Why do you say he’s a “right wing” Michael Moore. He doesn’t seem political really at all

[@ameetfaisal8723]

Due to most right wingers being antivax and much more into conspiracy theory.

[@mccy9198]

Because if you don’t conform to the agenda ..= right wing.

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

B/c he panders to that crowd. Michael Moore makes dishonest movies to pander to the left wing. This guy does the same. Doesn't mean the positions are Right win, but it's throwing red meat to crowd that's a fringe part of the right wing.

[@doublestarships646]

Because he feeds into the rhetoric of the Far Right.

[@mccy9198]

@@doublestarships646 got any examples??

[@gamestech9016]

Why did they say the camera was flat against the window when it was not.

[@bretputchel689]

Because it was a hoax

[@SuperCraig00]

They didn’t say it was flat against the window. They said it covered the window.

[@gamestech9016]

@@SuperCraig00 exactly, they said something it was not

[@SuperCraig00]

@@gamestech9016 no, covered as in you cover this side I’ll cover that side. Tom will cover the window.

[@ZorbinEUR]

One thing that really annoyed me is that they didnt talk about the current Artemis program.

[@matthewfrost6850]

Here's one question guys, you see the landing capsule descend for the 1st time to the Moons surface. So that would imply that the camera crew flew to the Moon before Armstrong & Co's touchdown so they could film the historic 1st man on the Moon scene. How does NASA explain this oversight?

[@benblevans5477]

there is no film of the lander descending to the moon from the moon perspective. the only film of the landing is from the inside of the lander. if you have anything else please enlighten me.

[@miguelvillaruel7667]

So we've been scammed since day 1

[@iboeshakmon3r698]

“i don’t know if you’ve heard of kubrick”

[@89joshuadavies]

Under 30s likely haven't!

[@fattonyd232]

If it's so hard to imagine a conspiracy, why haven't they released the JFK files?

[@LancePorter88]

Exactly.

[@fattonyd232]

@@LancePorter88 they could murder a president but can't fake a moon landing lol I always thought it'd be a lot easier to fake than to actually do

[@mr.martyr8573]

It’s wild you people act like all of them are the same and should be treated the same. Lol

[@fattonyd232]

@@mr.martyr8573 I made no comparison in facts between these two matters at all. Can you explain your comment??

[@LancePorter88]

​@@mr.martyr8573 What color is your fyyyzer tattoo?

[@mr.martyr8573]

This comment section is a glaring example as to how fucking screwed we are as a species.

[@URAWESOME94]

Hmm. Not rlly. I’d offer the inverse. The mere fact that comment sections are a thing says much to the contrary. Let ideas clash and clang in a digital space? Neat. I’d also argue perhaps the wars and prevalence of tension between nuclear powers is evidence of our impending doom.

[@Apophis1010]

Yup, so many people fall for con artists. Just tell them what they want to hear.

[@ah_keeem]

@@Apophis1010yeah bro, the con artists are the government 🤣

[@macgarnagal]

Yeah man, Bart Sibrel sounds nothing like Wallace Shawn

[@mr.martyr8573]

@@macgarnagal Who the foook is that guy? (Said in Conor McGregor voice.)

[@mrboost101]

You should review old school movies, you taught me a lot about Kubrick today! Thanks

[@Sam-cc7zu]

Three other countries have confirmed the moon landing since and took photos 😂

[@pokerace420]

But they didn't want to be 2nd to the moon.

[@nicolasrossi5978]

Only because, the U.S. wouldn't dare now challenge any other country's claim of having achieved lunar success (even if there were doubts) for fear of being outed (for our past fakery!) Those select people truly in the know, know. And, as it was touted at the time, it was seen as a huge accomplishment for all of mankind, not only the U.S. though we as a country of course gained most from it. The argument of, "oh well, our country is just no longer intrested/focused on a moon landing". is exactly the childish, b.s. ,anti-intellectual ,'hide behind' sort of argument it sounds like it is. All those millions of dollars were appropriated from taxpayers to 'go to the moon', but ultimately the core group of scientists, and technicians, and rocket experts etc. came to the sobering realization it could not be done. The proverbial 'beans were not spilled', because the lions share of jobs/responsibilities at NASA and having to do with the moon mission were completely compartmenalized. The Van Allen Belts being just one of the many insurmountable issues. So, Low Earth Orbit for the International Space Station and all it's attendant experiments, yes we can do that. Send probes and satellites various places, check we can do that. Space shuttle launches and docking with the ISS (again in low earth orbit!) Low earth orbit filmed pseudo 'deep space walks', yep we can check that box too. No living breathing humans (have been) or will be treading, or driving, or golfing(!?) on the moon though anytime in the immediate forseeable future. Just my considered and amply supported opinion.

[@Isaiah538]

Not too close up. NASA has now put a restriction on how close they can get to Apollo landing sites. So couldn't these things have been placed there by unmanned flights? Since we have no close ups, it could look oddly different when seen in detail.

[@Sam-cc7zu]

@@Isaiah538 but they haven’t have they that’s just a flat earther saying that, and yes the Chinese confirmed the landings, how important do you guys think you are that billions are spent just to trick you 😂

[@Isaiah538]

@Sam-cc7zu those are the distant pictures I'm speaking of. Do you think that proves man was there? Maybe up close, we could actually tell. So isn't NASA asking other space programs not to get too close?

[@elikerr785]

Also, NASA doesn't release photos, they release images. A photo, image, and picture are all very different. They've even openly stated they have doctored images (from images in "space", images of the Earth, etc) in order for them to appear as a more accurate representation of the scene.

[@SlickBlackCadillac]

It saves a lot on cost too. You can get a higher resolution picture of earth with a low orbit satellite taking many pictures and then stitching or "photoshopping" them together for orders of magnitude cheaper than the enormous cost of sending a high orbiting satellite to snap a single photo.

[@jcole139]

I remember that one strong opinions Joe has - which is a pretty good one MOST of the time - is that you should only have one guest. It eliminates talking over each other constantly which really degrades how good the podcast goes. But in this case you’re right that he needed an expert to counter the conspiracy points more effectively so people walk away from the episode more informed which is the real goal of it all.

[@CheekyMenace]

He needs to have some sort of mediator and format to keep things in line when it's a group debate type situation.

[@Righton23]

Is that really his goal?

[@mikewager3428]

He literally asked the guy to come back for a debate episode with an expert on the other side of the issue, so it wouldn't just be Rogan pushing back.

[@jimwaldron3484]

Best proof that we DID go to the moon is the fact that the Russians never claimed we didnt!

[@rudigerderudder5430]

😂😂😂 they all serve the same bankers

[@jimwaldron3484]

@@rudigerderudder5430 no conspiracy theorist has ever proven thier conspiracy theory. If they had, then it wouldnt be a conspiracy any more, and then they wouldnt be able to believe in thier own theory any more.

[@zagreus5773]

@@rudigerderudder5430 Right, the (((bankers))) is what you're trying to say, no?

[@tristanblaisdell6920]

@@jimwaldron3484I think the moon landing hoax conspiracy is complete nonsense, that being said you are factually incorrect. A conspiracy theory being proven true is just referred to as a conspiracy no longer a conspiracy theory.

[@RevealtheMethod]

in russia they teach that they were the first ones in space nobody cares about that dusty rock

[@IAEMThatIAEM]

thanks for pointing out the "steel man" repetition

[@EthNick16]

I know Jaimie would probably never do this but I'd LOVE to hear that he just quit, one day

[@robosing225]

The guy is making bank.

[@NG-wk6pr]

So this guy has KZbin legal knowledge and moon landing knowledge now too lol wonder what’s next

[@karlgmeiner1180]

Bart Sigel did more to convince me the moon landing was real than I thought possible. If there really was good evidence that it was fake, he shouldn’t sound so stupid and arrogant.

[@robosing225]

His grasping at straws with every question. He's a grifter and makes money off it.

[@bigpike777]

Sibrel

[@PhillyCYOSports]

"as a photographer, as a filmmaker" Okay bro...

[@m1garand164]

Jamie was getting whiny because he thought they should be respecting him as a "camera expert" and "film maker" 😆🤦‍♂️

[@SLIM_SHADY313]

My Grandmother Cheryl was actually in the Pentagon when it was hit by the plane. She has had severe PTSD from the events of that day. She had went to the funerals of some of her dearest friends that died that day & there was actual groups of people at the funeral screaming "Show us the bodies" & talking about how there was no plane at all. For a few years after 9/11 my grandmother would attend the memorial for the people lost in the Pentagon attack & her last time ever attending was 9/11/2006 & it was because of the people who would scream outside the memorial saying that nobody actually died in the Pentagon & how it wasn't a plane or missile that struck the building & that it actually was a bomb placed by United States Military........ Seeing my grandmother actually crying due to the people saying these things & Bombing her place with THOUSANDS OF FLYERS saying she is apart of the killing because she actually testified saying how she actually seen the plane strike the building. She would have been killed if her section of the building wasn't being under construction, She was in a section that was to the right of the plane crash spot, She helped many people out of the building that day & when all of the conspiracy people started attacking her & her colleagues saying they were lying about 9/11 . She retired in 2005 because of the non stop attacks because of the 9/11 Pentagon attack. Those people aren't here in our home when she is up all night crying about how she feels like she should have saved some more of her friends, She has watched all the popular 9/11 Conspiracy documentaries & I've sat with her balling her eyes out saying "Why do they continue this, We are real people, With real family & friends who we really lost because they really died. I seen with my 2 eyes a Plane fly into the building I have really worked in for 31yrs....... Now in 2024 my grandmother pretty much stays away from all of the 9/11 stuff, She does have very close friends who she will meet with each year around 9/11 & talk but they have stopped attending the memorials even though they get invitations every year but she does send flowers to the families of her good friends who were taken on 9/11. My grandmother was in the U.S. AIR FORCE UNTIL 2006 & she had gotten pretty high on the totem pole in DC where she would be in the room giving REAGAN information with the other joint chiefs , She attended the inauguration of Reagan,Bush Sr, Clinton,Bush Jr & she actually sat amongst the presidents Elect up on the capital....... She truly has been tracked down so many times by the "9/11 WAS FAKED" film makers & they have harassed her like crazy simply because she said what she seen on 9/11 which was a plane crashing into the building.

[@johnnytakisawa]

Yeah the plane was a hologram is classic disinfo. The real conspiracy involves Israel and the mossad but they want everyone claiming a conspiracy at the highest levels of govt to be lumped in together with loose changers and no planes theory. There's literally Israeli spies filming and celebrating the attacks as they happened. They were stopped on the Gw bridge and detained for months until one day they were just released back to Israel. I mean. There's so many official govt docs detailing all their involvement it's crazy. Plus we've caught Israel red handed trying to pull off a false flag attack on the USS liberty to try and get America to bomb Egypt on their behalf. Plus Israel has been selling our military secrets to our enemies for over 30 years now, the countless times they withheld Intel that then got Americans killed while all the Israelis knew what to look out for. Yet they're still referred to as "our greatest ally" which tells you all you need to know.

[@anthonybarsness1462]

I don’t have a dog in the fight but it is strange that we don’t have the ability to do it today and that we no longer even have blueprints/information on how we did it. How could we possibly not save all that data?

[@seandavidt3538]

Crazy how much that ‘Space Rocket’ looks exactly like an ICBM missile that can be fitted with a warhead. Easier to tell those workers they are making something beneficial for society as opposed to your building a Nuclear Bomb right after WWII.

[@timbo7873]

It was a front for the actual program that was already in full effect (Solar Warden)....with technology that was superior to the crap they openly were using.

[@erikgilson1687]

What are you talking about? They have every record/"blueprint" of how they got to the moon and have an Artemis mission to return in 2025 to the south pole of the moon. What talking points are these?

[@carrollsanders9376]

We have the ability, but why do we want more moon rocks nothing on the moon valuable enough to ho back for.

[@txag007]

WTF are you talking about? The Saturn V rocket was 6 times longer and in diameter than a typical icbm rocket. They look nothing alike.

[@riggingcranetips7393]

This is how I know if im watching an episode. 1) go to the description 2)if it says the guest is a stand up comedian 3) I dont watch it

[@Jackomac]

This is how most do it, look at the KZbin views, obscure guests like this guy get 1 million + And random comedians barely crack 500k

[@joes282828]

No one wants to listen about how important it is to get on stage for the millionth time

[@chilibeer3912]

I know an astronomer named Dint Flibble who would be perfect for a debate with this guy. He wears a really cool outfit with a jaunty cap as well.

[@OnlyGoodSHHH]

11:00 ...you gotta show Danny's sweater, hallway carpet, the ball, the carpet suddenly being flipped... THAT sequence of clues is so much more that just the room number...

[@joesphomalley4263]

Wow. Great to see Rogan has learned a new term, "steelmanning". He really is a prick.

[@islandmank]

All i can say is that if we can orbit the moon, it's not a big stretch to land on it. I believe that we did land on it, and then the public got bored with the idea so they never bothered going back.

[@seething-obama]

WTF are you talking about? no body got "bored". There is a difference of a space craft orbiting the moon, it is unammed. The argument was that the radiation is too great for men to handle it. No one said we havent sent probes tro the moon, its that we have never sent a manned space craft there.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

I'm open to a possibility that maybe they faked the footage for any of a variety of reasons. I'm definitely not emotionally invested in it either way.

[@islandmank]

@@Steve-ev6vx I'm not either. We have a lot of problems on Earth that need to be dealt with.. I'm into Computer Science, so I looked at the Assembly Code they used to program the Gemini Computer for the Apollo missions. It's pretty cool.

[@ronjonster8330]

Never orbited never been there never even been near it and you obviously have destroyed your brain with Hollywood if you think otherwise

[@sasquatchmindcontrol]

@@islandmankit’s 100 percent fake. Now of those rockets leave earth,

[@colinboer5444]

Yo, engineer and Aerospace enthusiast here. The radiation in the Van Allen belts actually isn’t as strong as some believe. The radiation is UV which is extremely harmful but easy to block, in fact the particles can’t pass through a sheet of paper. Although yes a human in this region UNPROTECTED will most certainly die but let’s remember the astronauts were incased in a command module that was 3mm of aluminum which can easily block the UV radiation from entering the spacecraft. Now that being said they did fly through the weakest portions just in case and the spacecraft was designed to withstand the worst solar flare ever recorded at the time. The radiation was taken very seriously but it ended up not being that big of a deal and astronauts were even equipped with Geiger counters.

[@insanity4224]

According to chat gpt: No, the radiation within the Van Allen belts is not ultraviolet (UV) radiation. It primarily consists of charged particles, such as electrons and protons, rather than electromagnetic waves like UV radiation. UV radiation comes from the Sun and is not typically associated with the Van Allen belts.

[@insanity4224]

Me: How could astronauts be protected? Chat gpt: Astronauts can be protected from the radiation within the Van Allen belts through various means, including shielding on spacecraft, limiting exposure time, and developing advanced materials that can absorb or deflect radiation. Additionally, spacecraft can be designed to traverse the belts quickly or to navigate through areas of lower radiation intensity.

[@qna95B]

engineer and aerospace enthusiast, ask yourself this question: How much of the things you speak of, can you ACTUALLY prove?? (and not just reference some article written by NASA or their benefactors)

[@s.muller8688]

@@qna95B zero. besides repeating empty words and phrases from people he never met and never will meet.

[@rashadd2615]

@@qna95BAnd then follow it up by disproving anything he says, other than regurgitating tinfoils like the guy in the video. Evidence doens’t just go one way sir. 👍

[@dashabateman4409]

"Right wing Michael Moore" - How is he "right wing"?

[@TehUltimateSnake]

Apparently right wingers = believer of all conspiracies

[@29memyselfandi]

Yeah that was a really weird sentence.

[@yplay2]

Seems like any body who has conspiracy theory are classed as Right wing these days 😂 very lazy conception

[@TehUltimateSnake]

@@yplay2 I commented the same thing before u and got my comment deleted lol

[@grippipethin2796]

Generally the left believe the moon landings and the right don’t. That’s why KZbin heavily censor moon landing facts. It’s a left/right thing similar to climate change science.

[@ryanjoray]

Let’s check the original tapes. Annnd they destroyed them. Not sus at all.

[@Hobbes746]

Nope. All of the data remains available today.

[@vernefits1953]

Joe did a decent job in this one

[@PlanecrazyAviator]

Pseudo podcaster making videos about other peoples content What do u stand for who ever owns this channel

[@papalegba6796]

He stands for conformism

[@jd35711]

the fact that the soviets - who closely monitored every aspect of the lunar missions - made no attempt to dispute their authenticity should be enough to settle this, but over half a century later here we are

[@macmac9371]

They are in on the hoax bro.

[@jd35711]

@@macmac9371 nice try

[@chrischarlescook]

Comparing the behaviour of light in an atmosphere, versus a vacuum, shows he had a pre college level understanding of physics.

[@Rgotto2]

Nothing has made me more believe in the moonlanding

[@the.shotgun.approach]

I feel like Young Jamie got the most emotional some years ago when he was challenging Edgy Bra on nuclear weapons being fake and other conspiracy theories. Great vid man.

[@luckyfk3452]

Not everyone can withstand contact with such aggressive stupidity as eddie bravo or this bart muppet.

[@arlencarroll1964]

Yeah man totally agree with your opening remarks.its refreshing when joe mixes it up .plus its nice to not see bert or tom anywhere near the rogan studio

[@silence7113]

JRE is the podcast equivalent of The Walking Dead, started strong, got better, and then kept going on for seasons after it should have been ended.

[@kidwave1]

Bingo! Now lets, you and I, watch the rest of the world take another decade to realize what we already see.

[@Phat88Tony]

The last year has been the worst. Only last few weeks it's got better

[@philliphudson2707]

Rogan: the government lies about everything...EVERYTHING. Except the moon landings Lol. LMAO even

[@erikgilson1687]

The moon landing conspiracy is extremely dumb on the face of it though cause if NASA never landed on the moon Russia and China would have just been like "yeah it didn't happen" instead of being forced to admit it

[@blackscreen1810]

This is the same guy that thinks that the government has known about Aliens for years and won’t tell us.

[@xyaeiounn]

@@blackscreen1810 Anyone who's ever tried to keep a secret that matters knows the only safe information is known by dead people. Humans are to secrets what paper bags are to gasoline.

[@ccsmooth560]

The landing was a stunt, not a hoax. The US is rich enough to put people on the moon rather just send.a cheap lander like the Russian did at the same time-- or was that a hoax as well.