Joe Rogan: Do We REALLY Know How OLD The Pyramids Are?

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Joe Rogan, Jimmy Corsetti & Ben van Kerkwyk discuss vases found in pyramids giving further insight onto the dates that they may have been created.
Jimmy Corsetti is the independent researcher behind "Bright Insight" where he talks about ancient mysteries and theories about lost civilizations and what happened to them. Ben van Kerkwyk is an Australian researcher, writer and content creator. He produces the UnchartedX.com website and UnchartedX youtube channel and podcast, producing long-form documentaries on various topics dealing with ancient mysteries
Clip taken from JRE #1928, w/ Jimmy Corsetti & Ben van Kerkwyk
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Jimmy Corsetti & Ben van Kerkwyk

[@QuinnV100]

I own a precision CNC machine shop. To be within .001 perpendicularity is something which is definitely NOT easy for us to do even today with advanced CNC machinery. The only way you could reliably do this is if you cut both surfaces in THE SAME operation. Meaning they "faced" the part THEN cut the bore all while maintaining the same setup. Now the real question arises is how did they cut ceramic? Today we have to use diamond tipped tools to do that. An additional question then arises is how did they check the part? To me it is obvious we are dealing with evidence of a lost technology and/or evidence of a lost advanced civilization.

[@replexity]

Way late to the conversation but I still wanted to chime in and say thank you for your input. Always nice to see professionals give their two cents about how impressive this kind of stuff is, even by today’s measures. It’s easy for a lot of people to dismiss the claims of these guys and guys like them until someone like you pops in.

[@rh81454]

For me the tech was either sold off to new startup civilizations (clans?) or they just buried/threw it in the nile. And considering there are Crocs in the Nile, I don't see too many excavations in the near future

[@rh81454]

Also, thank you for the input.

[@QuinnV100]

@@rh81454 there was most likely a global cataclysm which caused a large loss of life,/civilization decline, and the technology was forgotten.

[@rh81454]

@@QuinnV100 The Mauritania circle thing shows signs of waves according to the images on google. The JRE episode opened up my mind dude.

[@gazs7572]

I’d love to be able to go back in time & just have a little sneak peak of Ancient Egypt.

[@eurekasquared9853]

Yes but only if I could come back. 😂

[@lilrjswag]

Nahh theyll probably noticed you lol

[@eddiemcdonald4720]

And you’ll see them still there already built and nobody knew the answer then either. Go back further

[@bameno6641]

get some slaps and get arested to be a slave 😂. But i get you, man must be aeesome fresh air no air light polition …

[@jeffb.4800]

You should do that or at the very least attempt to

[@everybodywazzup]

Happy to see Jimmy on the podcast again!

[@spangdeez498]

There’s a few things in life I wish I knew the answers too- and Ancient Egypt is for sure one of them

[@Llotussound]

Watch pyramide k2019 😉 everything explained

[@sha7303]

You and joe rogan are conspiracy theorists relax

[@Chris-from-AZ]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYXcppKjq8hjkM0 Mayans which are the Aztec Built them Mayans had jade stone Which was only found in China

[@BillBird2111]

It's always good to ask questions. Never take anything at face value. When it comes to objects such as these, and hear the "official" explanation of how it was done, it's good to ask: "But, wait, how could this be done by hand?"

[@charliespeegleokliving8595]

Watch Scientists against Myths. The truth is wooden beams in the pyramids have been radio-dated.

[@BerriesMcGOO]

As a machinist i am shocked to learn the accuracy of ancient manufacturing

[@thisismyrealname2860]

Testimony from knowledgeable people in your field is some of the most important evidence in this line of inquiry

[@calijs9420]

I’m an inspector for the semiconductor industry. So for me to hear that over 3,800 points the vase is within 0.01” thousands of an inch. Is amazing, plus the blocks I inspect are steel. Steel gives off an obvious appearance after that level of machining, but to hear the numbers are the same then machining is obvious for the vase also

[@lyrebirdinusa]

I have done quite a bit of metrology and interferometry in my life. If these numbers are correct, there is NO WAY that this vase was made by hand.

[@ItsMeYourRealDad]

I hear it was aliens...or probably ancient ghosts

[@braidend4379]

I'm also a machinist / mechanical engineering tradesman. This is astonishing accuracy, but to say it can't be achieved by hand would be false. The most accurate marking tables are are hand scrapped finished. That's not to say that this wouldn't be insanely difficult and require existing accurate tooling to measure and mark up, but hand work can produce better surface flatness then CNC machines.

[@jpatton5567]

Sometimes it's easy to forget that ancient world geniuses have the same mental capacity as modern geniuses

[@victormanuelalvesortiz2853]

Mantal capacity≠ technology

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Yes it's very difficult for people to comprehend that they aren't actually superior to everybody else around them.

[@burdeo2313]

Well that doesn’t really coincide with evolution now does it

[@daboomchakalaka7898]

@@darkdraconisour brains are the same as brains in ancient Egypt

[@jpatton5567]

@Azazel a few thousand years isn't enough time for significant evolutionary changes. Mental capacity was most likely very similar if not identical, it's just the knowledge and ability we have now is vastly improved. We still use mathematical theories and systems that ancient people came up with

[@phantomcreamer]

As a wood worker, this sort of precision is unfathomable. I've thrown a few pots on the whee in my day, and also I'm blown away. A precision square will not be perpendicular to 1/1000 of an inch. How did they even make the tools to make the artifacts, and where did the tools go?

[@kevinelrod323]

There's only one logical (or it isn't) answer to where the tools went. The tools & technology went to the same place, that the aliens were going.

[@barneypaws4883]

Great podcast Joe. We have to get these two guests back on together again. So damn interesting and fascinating it's like having Randall and Graham on

[@BuddhaDog93]

Highly recommend subscribing to Bright Insight. Jimmy has compiled some greatly informative videos on subjects such as Egypt and Atlantis.

[@palmtranconfidential]

We need these guys, Carlson and Hancock altogether. They are all friends so why not?

[@sav7568]

In case anyone isn't sure, those vases are all made of rock not potters clay.

[@keenfire8151]

what if they used to be soft, claylike 12,000+ years ago. But due to the extreme heat and cold from events plus age has turned them hard like a rock.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

@@keenfire8151 bro go look up eleanor coade and the liquid rock mixture she was doing, in the 1700s.

[@keenfire8151]

@@OrangeHeadTM That's granite they are shaping brother. Not a liquid mix.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

@@keenfire8151 what till everyone leans the pyramids are the tops of obelisks and the desert was filled in. 😉 tiny humans didnt build them either.

[@keenfire8151]

@@OrangeHeadTM "tiny humans" have built way way better. Perhaps they just had similar tech? I'd love for it to be giants. There's just no evidence for them.

[@futurez12]

I really like Ben's channel, and I've been subbed to him since the beginning, but I can't help but think these kinds of conversations would be much better if we had some professionals arguing against the claims made. As a complete layman, I can't reliably come to a conclusion without hearing counter arugments. I know Joe's done that before but I feel like we need it _every_ time to guard against being easily led, which can so easily happen, particularly when we _want_ to believe something.

[@TankUni]

Exactly, particularly with Corsetti who has no trouble fudging facts to suit a hypothesis. Somebody like David Miano for example, might be good for the other side. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDKnn9-lNqJn8U

[@wompbozer3939]

Check out the sacred geometry decoded channel. They show you actual experimental archaeologists replicate the cuts that these people say are impossible. No debate is necessary- you just need to watch the guy do the impossible thing and then draw your own conclusions.

[@black_tech_owner]

@@wompbozer3939 It’s important to understand that the main stream theory hasn’t been substantiated anymore than Ben’s opinion, so there really is no one with relevant authority to argue against any of these points. The “opposing” side is working off of pure theory as well, but they have the establishment on their side to appear legitimate. All I ask is that people require the same proof from the establishment as they require from people who fall outside of the scope of the establishment.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

Whats a professional to you? Cuz a professional to you is not a professional to me. A lot of Joe's guests are all pseudoscientists that have no answers, they just fill your head with nonsense to get you to move further away from the truth.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

@@wompbozer3939 bruh no humans created the pyramids. If you still have an Earthly mineset you're never going to find the truth. You gotta expand past the indoctrination of this realm to see whats truly going on. Everything under the sun is already known. Weve been given amnesia so we forgot it all. But whats coming next, well all know the ultimate truth. When i say humans, i mean our kind of humans with no super powers.

[@jeffleake1960]

the stone vases found under the pyramids are the most amazing archelogy ever found . i can only think of mind blowing as a way to describe them as they truly defy explanation. well to anyone with an open mind that doesn't dismiss what they really mean in the sheer quality of workmanship and how they are even possible to produce in a society without the wheel . it shouldn't be possible specially the shattered quartz ones , now they are impossible archaeology

[@mildred45]

Without the wheel? Ever seen pharaoh’s chariot? You’re not really that ignorant are you? 🤦🏽

[@CorpseBike]

They weren't cavemen they had wheels lol

[@blissfulhumanoid9536]

It’s always a great interview when Chumlee shares his insights

[@MontieMongoose]

Australian Chumlee can't hurt you, he isn't real.

[@THE-HOLY-SPIRIT]

@@MontieMongoose bumlee

[@georgehayduke6717]

He is an insightful man

[@Chris32351]

Atlantis era is making more sense each day

[@Wopedomer]

And I’m smoking more & more

[@nathanielb8717]

@@Wopedomer 😭😭 I was ab to comment sm serious but yeah…. Maybe that’s why

[@dws0828]

I would look up Minoan Crete and how that’s the inspiration for the fictional Atlantis. Requires 30 seconds of effort

[@logank444]

I lot of people don't realize there are hundreds of pyramids. Many miss shape and built badly. Turns out these are older and it seems they were slowly fleshing out how to build them efficiently. The great pyramids were made over hundreds of years.

[@pandaman1677]

Atlantis was a global civilization w a Capital

[@samb8335]

Ancient manufacturing and archeologi is freaking amazing!! Someone who figured it out had to sail to other countries and sell them the idea, but where it originated and when is something I would truly like to have a understanding of.

[@Dustin2558]

You should research Sundaland. There is a good case to be made that an ancient civilization once existed there and is now under water.

[@BrassBashers]

There had to be some kind of mass extinction event though that left none of their technological records behind, otherwise we would have found them by now. Almost like that one lost Greek city, Alexandria I think??? Most of their history and secrets were written on paper scrolls that were easily destroyed by fire... But think about it, the Egyptians had almost caveman hieroglyphics as their language but didn't leave behind details of their mathematics or how they built the things they supposedly built???? Like has been said on this channel I think the Egyptians stumbled upon these things that already existed and just built their own society on top of the established architecture.

[@sha7303]

Ancient manufacturing, lol.

[@stevea3514]

why would they need to sail when they could make the stones of the pyramids float?? they had an atmosphere full of electricity, they used structure like the pyramids to generate it and knew how to utilise it

[@d_no_allyn_86]

How do you know that's how they "had to have done it" or "how they learned it" they were just that good at what they did. Ancient Egyptians were no joke.

[@mac2312]

The Pyramids have been there longer than the ancient Egyptians

[@Hansgame]

a) we all got the info from something "above" at the same time b) humans have been way more connected than we know, and knowledge was shared c) different ppl came up with the same idea at different places in time just bc it was the "best" way to get to the goal (imo i think b and c, we underestimate everything all the time and look baffled when we see that everything is somehow connect and influenced by)

[@eddyram4932]

My personal belief it’s that we have a mix of all those things. Too many peoples and civilizations have stories of aliens coming here and teaching them. We have maps, old maps that show parts of the world before they were even “discovered”. Plenty of places with identical things, like hieroglyphs in the Grand Canyon. Then we also have the super precise constructions all over the world, and the mainstream science says these people barely had the tools necessary to do it, but they did it somehow😂 I also believe humans are much older than what the mainstream science says, and I mean modern Homo Sapiens, like millions of years older than they say.

[@yorkyfozzy2867]

Really enjoyed this one. Both Jimmy and Ben are up there with Graham and Randall in their importance in this field. I think the tide is turning their way. I'd like to mention Brian Forester as being another important voice. Can't wait to see these guys on JRE again.

[@calijs9420]

I’d like all four of them to sit down and just start up a conversation, I’d pay for the recording 🤣🤣🤣 they open my mind so much and let’s me see past, older research I’ve done it’s amazing

[@toddy914]

Pff. All of them have 2 things in common, and that is having no education on the topics that they spew on JR's podcast and the financial incentives they get. Joe rogan invites people like this because its more exciting talking about grand alien conspiracies, lost advanced cities, forgotten tecnologies and so on, compared to having boring conversations with real educated people giving you boring sound conclusions.

[@destinyludwig3113]

perfectly said

[@jeremyfreeman697]

This is an ad hominem attack and not an argument. You don’t need an ‘education’ to understand that those granite vases defy explanations of traditional archeology. Can you make a comment that is well reasoned ? Please give it a try so that we can engage as rational beings.

[@OttoNommik]

lol. Ben is brilliant. The other dude? Lolllll

[@mrvector257]

Ben is a badass. I'm so happy he was finally on this show.

[@ellisdee1331]

Me too! He's a good dude.

[@yannikakapralli]

its his second time on the show :=)

[@ellisdee1331]

@@yannikakapralli Jimmy's 2nd. Ben's 1st.

[@timmysvensson4902]

@@ellisdee1331 lol... He is claiming "big archaeology" like big pharma.. archaeologists aint interested how they made things! Damn Americans are stupid, not won a war ever but pretend they have, what a shit show of anti intellectual nation.. Just because you cant think that people can craft stuff, claim maschines.. wolololi

[@OrangeHeadTM]

Hes a pseudoscientist filled with a million what ifs and zero answers.

[@FrankyZielmann]

I am for many years interested in this topic and the more you dive into this, the more complex it becomes and questions rise. For example Egypt, below the pyramids there are tunnels and there is an Osiris shaft , the shaft has 2 layers ( about 25 meter below surface) of floors and on the floors there have been found massive Granite sarcophags. They however do not fit through the shaft..... Similar questions can be asked in the Serapeum in Saqqara..... What about the hundreds of Pyramids worldwide. Not only Egypt , but the white Chinese pyramids, Indonesia, Italy , Mexico , The Bosnian Pyramids..... ? Or to question the Baalbek quarry and the many megalithic stones and teh most famous one 'stone of the pregnant woman'.... Way too advanced for the Romans to have done that ....

[@lucariette]

Pyramids are the easiest and most stable way to pile stuff up so its not surprising a lot of civilizations used it

[@FromTheHood]

Where can I watch a full episode?

[@james1327]

Gotta be rough being an archeologist these days. Any social gathering with alcohol must be murder.

[@yogidemis8513]

The machining to accuracy is incredible and we're supposed to believe that they only had copper tools back then.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

Machining? No need to machine when you can manifest w your mind and vibration.

[@shenanigans5183]

@@OrangeHeadTM go manifest some bitches

[@WilfChadwick]

It's old, forgotten technology for a reason. Newer, more economical and more architecturally diverse building methods developed for religious buildings. If, for some crazy reason, people find they have the need to construct enormous, solid pyramids again, out of massive, hand carved stone blocks, it would take about half an hour to have all the wrinkles ironed out of the design/engineering plans. As long as this didn't all take place in sub saharan Africa, coz writing up the contracts for a European or Asian to lead the project could take weeks to complete.

[@OrangeHeadTM]

@@shenanigans5183 while I'm at it, I'll manifest a father for you. Got you bro.

[@shenanigans5183]

@@OrangeHeadTM told bro manifest some bitches and his first thought was to create a dude. Typical

[@hartsickdisciple]

Most people don't understand how significant the precision they're describing really is. It takes a person with real engineering and/or precision craftsmanship experience to appreciate what it means. They're not just saying it's impressive. They're saying it's impossible to do it without advanced machinery, and they're right.

[@Andu_music]

If the pyramids were located in Europe, nobody would be questioning how they were built

[@hartsickdisciple]

@@Andu_music I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I don't agree.

[@grey_north9016]

@@hartsickdisciple try it

[@7svn.]

@@hartsickdisciple machinery today doesnt provide uniqueness in terms of how things look and are, back in egypt days the pharaohs wanted top quality and grand scale stuff, only the best and if they didnt get they find someone else that could. we dont do that today look at buildings 100 years from now to buildings today. we are becoming more bland. these egyptian buildints were not made in 5-10 years but hundreds

[@hartsickdisciple]

@@7svn. While I agree that most modern architecture is bland and uncreative, that doesn't explain the levels of precision present at some of these ancient sites. It doesn't matter how slowly you go, there are certain things that can't be replicated by hand. They require computerized machinery with the ability to cut and articulate to micrometer levels of precision. There are some sites which show evidence of high-speed sawblades moving fast enough, and with a hard enough cutting surface to overcut into solid granite. The only thing that will change my mind on this is for someone to build the technologically primitive tools they assert were used in ancient times, and use them to replicate the work. Show me. If they can't or won't do that, they're not credible. We know that some of this work can be done with modern technology, and some of it would be extremely difficult even with the tools we have today. Instead of formulating theories on how the ancient dynastic Egyptians did this work using primitive, largely fictional tools, archeologists and egyptologists should've taken the evidence to engineers, architects, masons, and other professionals who understand construction. Those are the people qualified to figure out what was needed to achieve these feats.

[@mrwaltermathews]

I choose to learn everything I know about archeology from Joe Rogan. Guy is a genius.

[@lemonjuice54860]

This guy is very well spoken. Stays on point

[@MDaDonLegacy]

Imagine being capable of holding any means of a conversation while talking to Rogan. You could be in the deepest conversation about ANYTHING and Joe will ask the MOST irrelevant question while comparing the dumbest shit. Example, compares lighter to pyramids. It sums up America perfectly.

[@OfficialCANVAS]

@@MDaDonLegacy well u for sure can't stay on point that's 4 sure

[@YungPhilosopher]

@@MDaDonLegacyhe didn’t compare a lighter to a pyramid you obviously missed the point

[@-C.S.R]

Bro! I was just gonna say he needs to get the guy from uncharted X on! 😂 So glad!

[@bearwill4737]

Brien Foerster too, man knows Megalithic sites & Joe he'll knock your socks off.

[@-C.S.R]

@@bearwill4737 100% his videos were the first ones that I saw! He doesn't get the credit he deserves!

[@bearwill4737]

@@-C.S.R, Brien Foerster has over 1,200 video's up on KZbin. When you see 150 ton stone slabs removed off the side of a mountain in one piece & moved 50 miles & the back inside corners have a radius precision cut on them, that is off the chart technology & we still can't do it or explain how it was supposedly done by primitive peoples. Egyptian's merely took it over & claimed it as their own, then wrote inferior hieroglyphic graffiti on superior precision stone work. They're still ignorant & control of the sites should be taken from their ignorant control & proper scientific archeological study done to the entire area. Finding facts & truths, & Not B.S. & disinformation.

[@wompbozer3939]

You are factually incorrect. People are able to replicate the cuts with the same level of precision using primitive tools today. I can direct you to a video of someone making an inside corner in granite with primitive tools.

[@bearwill4737]

@@wompbozer3939, I've seen none & looked for yrs. Even stone masons said they couldn't replicate the quality of work done, even with modern tools. You can't even see polishing marks & the finish is like glass.

[@ARuiz-eu3hk]

My best guess is that these cultures did interact with each other and shared ideas earlier on in one or few spots.

[@samanthacass6550]

Absolutely... Makes me think about the tower of Babel tbh

[@munn2006]

Such a simple answer no idea why they ruled it out right away

[@IRidez]

@@samanthacass6550 yes real construction makes you think about a fable in a book 😂 Great work dumbass

[@renziwil453]

Maybe..But I think they were all the same race and culture at the time of construction.. Africans presence are everywhere over the world

[@bassinblue]

@@renziwil453 Absolutely and it's clear modern day archaeologists don't want to hear a thing about it. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find it curious that a lot of these statues have their noses knocked off, hmm...

[@liquidalloy]

Joe's face and reactions are my favorite part of these videos lol

[@dmt4208]

As a machinist, i can 100% say that those artifacts are done by machine. We do really have an advance technology way back thousands of years ago, a lost civilization indeed.

[@thorpeenith3436]

Dude, joe's right, it's so impossible that cultures with millions of differences might have one thing that's pretty the same!

[@rckc.1719]

although i like this presentation, there are situations where people or groups of people who have never had contact can produce a similar idea or concept not exact but similar.

[@zobeats7681]

yes it is

[@DrSpoculus]

"How did people half the world away come up with the same designs?" If you put a bunch rocks in front of CHILDREN and tell them to build something, each one will build a pyramid. It's literally step 1 in architecrure.

[@crackedwindow4821]

We should get a large group of skilled crafters to try and recreate some of these smaller artifacts by hand as they believe they were made to see on average how close we can get for a reference point

[@neroknight1234]

“No connection between ancient Japan and ancient Egypt” obviously these guys have never met Yugi Moto

[@bronzebackbrownies]

Any machinist or anyone involved in machining understand how hard precision and repeatability can be in our day and age. Our past had some unreal technology

[@calijs9420]

Definitely agree, I inspect the stuff all day

[@travistaylor4342]

Been running a lathe for years it's amazing what they could build

[@silviuvisan505]

Theres a video on youtube debunking everything

[@sirrobertthebruce534]

@@silviuvisan505 let's see it then 🫢

[@gely_]

@@silviuvisan505 link the video bro why say there’s a video and not link it. It’s 2023 you think ima waste my time and search it. Dumas

[@louisax4058]

I hope someday Joe Rogan can invite Robert Sephr, he can give him some clues on how this designs were spread worldwide.

[@willoosthuizen5864]

If you watched the entire episode, it went from an insightful, thought provoking discussion about ancient civilizations to info wars really quickly.

[@taylort123]

because of louie oosthuizen i know how to pronounce your name.

[@JoeyFUCKING69]

I think they took it down . I can’t find it anywhere

[@ABagOfLag]

I guess you’re expecting a 3 hour long podcast to have 100% ideas you agree with. Shouldn’t be uncomfortable with others perspectives

[@petarvodenski5477]

@@ABagOfLag different perspective meaning utter nonsense?

[@rh81454]

@@ABagOfLag Exactly!

[@che4568]

Where's the full podcast?

[@calijs9420]

I’m really happy I seen this video about the vase, I’m an inspector for the semiconductor industry. I inspect a lot of gas blocks k1s flanges. There made of steel with high polish, no polish or a sealing surface. My tolerances. Are 0.01” to 0.03” thousand of an inch.. so basically as perfect as the vase on topic. These blocks are machined it’s impossible to make them this consistent in perfection by hand. So I now feel with out a shadow of a doubt machinery was used in ancient times in my educated opinion.

[@sdrc92126]

I make stuff on my cheap lathe to this accuracy all the time. It's pretty common. The accuracy to which you can machine to is only limited by your ability to measure

[@sdrc92126]

Look for the video "Granite Polishing & Whitworth 3 Plate Technique for Surface Plates"

[@calijs9420]

@@sdrc92126 right exactly my point a machine is used not your hands and some primitive technique and tool

[@sdrc92126]

@@calijs9420 All that's required to make a lathe is a stick and a string (think fire starting). I've seen videos of people employed in modern day manufacturing using stone age tools. If you do something every day and get really good at a task, I would think tht you could rival a cnc. Magic is only magic if you don't know how the trick is done.

[@sdrc92126]

@@calijs9420 Search for "Moroccan Bow Lathe". Some granite dust and a wooden stick will drill a straight and nearly perfect hole through most rock given time. The centricity of you circles depends on how straight you can make a line.That depends on how flat you can make a surface...and that can be done by rubbing three rocks together.

[@Lol_Pig]

These are the kinds of interviews I love

[@ozkankayhan4580]

Does anyone know if they have podcast on Spotify ?

[@Jjsh24]

I honestly feel that earth has "reset" itself so many times that were only seeing one "reset".. The one we are seeing currently realized that stone lasts far longer than steel and bones...It might not have been the last reset, just the smartest to know we 10,000s of thousands of years later could see them/there accomplishments after there reset.

[@katkit4281]

However no evidence supports that at all.

[@teresaoconnell4790]

You gonna just blow my mind, and the video just ends? I'm gonna need a lot more of that!

[@dsz6886]

Then watch the podcast, it's free.

[@TonyDiaz-ou2rr]

As a professional Metrologist and structural surveyor I really appreciated this episode. AWESOME!

[@FKTHESYSTEM063]

In all your work do you understand that water finds and maintains its level?

[@TonyDiaz-ou2rr]

@WHAKAORIORI water has nothing to do with level. You are referring the effects of gravity on a water bubble level. At the end of the day gravity is irrelevant to metrologist when measuring because we work in 3d space and orient and zero our USC as needed. Gravity is only relevent to plum bobs and string lines.

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

@@TonyDiaz-ou2rr You can use water to get a level surface, but it doesn't explain the flatness and the nearly perfect 90° areas. You cannot achieve this with a rope hanging down. I would have liked to know more about of the circles on the vase.

[@thebigt5463]

This whole episode could be distilled to "I don't know how they did it, must've been magic technology"

[@Michael-sr2ov]

Obviously didn't watch the episode did ya

[@joaorosa5656]

@@Michael-sr2ov I watched it and that was pretty much it lol

[@mayo8029]

Stone harder than steel? 1:19 Logic is fun, but logic represents relatity only when legitimate points of evidence are introduced

[@Jake_THEEsnake]

Just cope harder, all he’s saying is it had to be made with a machine and proved with facts

[@joaorosa5656]

@@Jake_THEEsnake I mean, there are specialists who disagree

[@THRMLVZN]

The Japanese sarcophagus is actually incredible

[@Anthony-ru7sk]

Wish Rogan would bring on world of antiquity

[@omaraziz1299]

given the level technology back then, its very much possible that most civilizations, through trial and error, figured out that building pyramids is the best way to build large buildings

[@BOBANDVEG]

They were bunkerheads. Protecting the miles of city and tunnels underneath. There were monsters in those days

[@robertmajewski4486]

where is full show ?

[@onewhostudies6856]

CR 222 Billy: Then I once again have a question regarding the Egyptian pyramids, as I was also asked about them. Unfortunately, I no longer remember exactly what Ptaah, Semjase, and Asket explained to me, but somehow, I think it was said to me that the first pyramids were built around 73,300 years ago or so, but later dismantled again because they fell to decay, namely through rotting in the interior as well as through the weather. In particular, this refers to the Pyramids of Giza but also to many other pyramids all over the world. Afterwards, everything was rebuilt, which should have happened around 10,800 or 11,000 years ago. At this time, about 300 years before the Great Flood, a certain king Sahluk was the person of power, who ordered the dismantling and alteration of the Great Pyramid of Giza and allowed this to be carried out. But again, everything moldered over the course of the following millennia and fell to decay, so about 4,500 years ago, an enormous pyramid work resulted once more, as everything that was moldering and decaying was torn away, removed, and replaced; thus, accordingly, new stone blocks were cut and then dragged and set up by human power. At the same time, the main pyramid completely lost its internal structure and organization, and it was built anew under the strict power of Cheops and completely revamped. Therefore, one can very well say that the current pyramid of Giza can actually also be called the Pyramid of Cheops, even though its actual origin traces back to other and partly Earth-foreign builders from the constellation of Orion, and indeed, to a time of two stellar ages ago, one of which is reckoned as around 36,650 years, and thus, in a 2-times form, yields a time of 73,300 years, whereby this time must be set before the Islamic Hegira, however. And when we speak of the Pyramid of Giza, we always speak of the pyramid that must be seen as the original pyramid, even if today, the new production is addressed, which is, of course, already about 4,500 years old and is exposed to rotting and decay, and which also no longer exhibits its original measure of 152.5 meters in height but only 146 or 148 meters. This great pyramid, together with the others, is aligned in its formatting to the constellation of Orion, while the Khafre structure, I mean the Sphinx structure, was aligned to the constellation of Leo. The new pyramid, as well as all the others and the Sphinx structure, were built in more recent times, so about 4,500 years ago, solely by Earth people, by their own forces. The builders were early Egyptians, like also the largest part of the workers, who were free people and artisans to a certain part, while many others, who came in small numbers as slaves from other countries, had to perform their hard work, together with a small number of domestic slaves. That majority of the workers, however, was based on free Egyptians. For the purpose of the nourishment of all workforces, a veritable industrial food-city was built near the pyramid, and also mass campsites were provided for resting and sleeping, as well as tombs for the many deceased, who were at work there. That’s how I remember it being explained to me by you. Now, is this right, or did I fall into a fallacy? Quetzal: 41. Everything is correct; so therefore, no further explanation is necessary.

[@seanhecht1840]

Chris Dunn says in order to get to .0001 degree of accuracy ya gotta have tools that can perform to that .0001 accuracy... EXACTLY 💯🔥💯

[@automedoniliad3269]

A compass and a water level

[@Fallen7Pie]

@@automedoniliad3269 if you want to show how to do that whole vase with that you'll win the internet. a flat surface? easy; those handles? LOL

[@automedoniliad3269]

@@Fallen7Pie a water line? You understand a water line right, and a perpendicular too?

[@hnbeast]

As a proud Egyptian, I can say that the pyramids are a testament to our rich history and ancient civilization. Their age is something that we can confidently say, thanks to the work of dedicated archaeologists and researchers. And as an open-minded person, I appreciate that there is always more to learn and discover about our past. It's exciting to think about all the knowledge and insights that are yet to be uncovered. And I believe that Joe Rogan's curiosity and eagerness to learn more about the pyramids, is a great way to keep the conversation going and keep the interest in our ancient heritage alive.

[@nu-nisamiracle2401]

You are an Egyptian? Your Ancient History is waaaaay Farther back than what you know.. it's literaly the First to Build Buildings which is not a House.. But they are not Engineer, they are Alchemist.. And the age of Sphinx is twice of what you know..

[@paulcunnane4]

No connection at all to modern Egyptians dude. Try to keep up.

[@Truth5eeker33]

@@paulcunnane4 or ancient egypt as we know it. the great pyramids were the first pyramids lol shittier ones were made after. they tried to duplicate whoever made them. my guess is aliens. but thats hush hush

[@chriskinsley4922]

Another thick Egyptian 🧐

[@mozanek]

OMG all these people so mad about us mentioning Ancient Egyptian civilization wow Guys chill there's drawings and paragraphs on templates walls that shows how pyramids were built And yeah the history belongs to us life has been here around the river nile for ages same people same land .

[@jerkurface602]

UnchartedX on Joe Rogan exp whaaaaaaaat!! Fuxkin dope!

[@barbells_and_guitars]

JRE at it's best.

[@jotcw81]

The greatest thing about this is that the lighter is actually casket/sarcophagus shaped lol

[@biggerbehindthetrigger2814]

There is a pyramid in the bottom of Rock lake in Lake Mills Wisconsin. We used to fish it all the time back in the 80's.

[@dellcoc]

That falls in line with the reported one 40 meters deep in Lake Michigan.

[@blakelandis2434]

Amazing works. Hopefully more information on this will become more apparent over the next few years. Also not to be that guy, but that cylinder axis would actually be your Z axis. the face of the lip would be both x and y.

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

These vases are THE nail in the coffin for the classical timeline promoted by archaeologists, and what made me doubt it when I was studying the field in Berlin 30+ years ago.

[@MMikeP]

There was a time in Rome for 300 years when people had no idea who built the colosseum and why it was built. They thought it was a temple.

[@artykillen9251]

Cleopatra lived closer in time to when the iPhone was made than the pyramids

[@City0fTroy]

Where did you hear this? Never heard that before

[@Marryjanesbud]

@@artykillen9251 facts. When Cleo was around the Pyramids were already considered ancient history! They were about 2500 years old when she was queen if I’m not mistaken. She was 2000 years away from the first IPhone being made. Ancient Egypt was the longest lasting civilization in known human history. It’s reign lasted over 3000 years. America’s not even 300 lol

[@artykillen9251]

@@Marryjanesbud truly mind boggling really 🤷‍♂️

[@71kimg]

How did they do it without modern tools!! - must have been aliens

[@swintondavid]

The Egyptians were amazing at building things! So precise. I’m in awe of the Egyptians back in their day! I wish I owned a 3000 year old granite conglomerate vase .

[@ieatleftytears1953]

It wasn't the Egyptians. Theu didn't build anything amazing. The found these ruins, carved pictures onto them bc the had no alphabet, and burying their dead in them like it was ...a tomb. The found these artifacts.

[@ieatleftytears1953]

And that vase is from the 5th dynasty (supposedly) ...so your about 3000 yrs off

[@swintondavid]

@@ieatleftytears1953 do you have any proof of your allegations?

[@ieatleftytears1953]

@@swintondavid as much proof as you have that it's a 3k yr old vase made from the Egyptians, do your research.

[@swintondavid]

@@ieatleftytears1953 do your research? Typical response from a tin foil hat wearer. Sure, that vase maybe older than 3000 years however if you can’t back your claims up with evidence, they don’t stand up. Good luck with your conspiracy theory bud. 😂😂😂

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

Where are the pics of Japanese sarcophagi? I can't find anything online.

[@piercegormley8644]

Interesting also on all the different cultures’ takes on ethics and the concept of worshipping a higher power being everywhere

[@tekannon7803]

Hats off to Jimmy Corsetti and Ben van Kekwyk and to Joe Rogan for having discussions from people like Jimmy and Ben who have opened our eyes and shown us things that make us see that some very unusual things in plain sight show that there was another civilization before us. It makes us realize that our reality is a bandaid on an open sore that is hemoraging from an internal wound called the past. I had the greatest trip of my life and that was to go on a Club Med excursion of the nile. We stopped in Cairo and in the Cairo Museum, the (excellent) guide who spoke perfect French which I understood pretty well in spite of it not being my native tongue, showed us the Khufu sculpture which was made out of diorite. Before anyone could had a question he said "Don't ask me how they carved diorite (the 2nd hardest stone after diamond) 4,000 years ago, because we simply don't know. There were only copper tools at that time." It didn't dawn on me then that there was an advanced civilization with precision tools and building capabilities that equalled or even surpassed our own. I'm a sculptor and I have never carved hard stone like granite let alone diorite, but to achieve the perfection of that piece meant that artists of that time had to have the right tools to do that kind of job. Tool marks can reportedly be seen on the back of his neck.

[@wompbozer3939]

Diorite and flint tools were available which can be used to process the stone.

[@superown1]

@@wompbozer3939 yea and would take 40 years to carve with 0 mistakes??

[@wompbozer3939]

No it wouldn’t. There were master craftsmen around who handed down knowledge for many generations. Just because you or I can’t do it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. People still carve vases by hand today. If they had the same knowledge accumulated that the ancients had they could do it. Don’t base your perception of their ignorance around your actual ignorance.

[@alejandropuglielli6803]

is all debunked ,Joe is 2 years behind , this guys are scammers .

[@Sol1dfox]

In cleopatra’s time they had archeologists working full time trying to study the pyramids.

[@Trevilianband]

It’s always the most confident and outspoken people with the least to say.

[@dee3368]

Question for some of the experts in the comments.. have you hand made a stone jar? Can you explain the technique and the tools you used. Were you able to reach the perfection of the one examined?..... Just curious

[@nickdimperio285]

Ben is unmatched with knowledge, please need him with a solo ep on egypt

[@ieatleftytears1953]

Um...he has his own episodes and his own channel..

[@ieatleftytears1953]

@@SS-jt9ex what book states that the eye of the Sahara is the city of Atlantis? Fckn ignorant comment

[@ieatleftytears1953]

@@SS-jt9ex your playlist is littered with shitty music and "advice to young artists". Nothing more useless than young artists..

[@alejandropuglielli6803]

all debunked

[@dooby6400]

@@alejandropuglielli6803 links??

[@fifita4698]

What makes things so hard to figure out is too many ancient artefacts and evidence of ancient life have been destroyed and looted over time.

[@MrMr-ws3tv]

Or sitting in private collections. So much of our history is sitting in some rich dudes house.

[@fifita4698]

@@MrMr-ws3tv before riches became a thing I feel as if people may have stumbled across history with no thought and have taken or destroyed it.

[@johanstinson]

And hidden.....

[@JJones-oi3jc]

@@fifita4698 nope humans have always wanted to document life and there way of living hense the cave paintings and rock carvings that still exist from prime evil times

[@kostismetallo8697]

Every single piece? How convenient

[@TonyP838]

What episode is this

[@gspendlove]

It's almost like a pyramid is the most stable structure in the world and has almost no chance of collapsing unless you're able to push it over somehow. It's almost like it will stand up to elements like wind and rain, and your enemies' attempts at destroying it. Who would possibly think that ancient people might recognize this and use similar techniques to preserve their goods and their dead, invaluable assets to them in their place and time? When a square or rectangular structure collapses, what shape does it assume? That's right.

[@TheDE4THangel]

It wasn’t till a massive earthquake hit Egypt that the limestone casing stones we able to be worked free of the pyramids face

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

They're INCREDIBLY precise. This would not be possible from most of what *ALL* of the entire HISTORY of mankind understood. Even today, WE BASICALLY CAN'T REPLICATE IT. Sort of, but... no. Look it up. The Pyramids are important. Reflection is key. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@nickmoser8235]

My theory. They made a small scale. Scaled up. Made a template to cut all the stones exactly the same. And they used a pulley system we haven’t figured out what it was exactly. I think we are overthinking it

[@benking2882]

How they cut granite?

[@vc2084]

What about tube drilling ??

[@nickmoser8235]

@@benking2882 they probably could mine diamond back then and make old bits for drills. I’m pretty sure the history channel has gone over hole drilling a while ago in a show

[@nickmoser8235]

@@benking2882 similar to how they do it today. With long chains to cut through the length of the boulder. They use water to lubricate and clear the channel. They probably had to replace the cutting teeth very frequently. Idk I don’t think it’s that complicated. And to think the shear number of people they had on it over a few hundred years. People are like ants. The shear volume of people it would take is hard to wrap your head around. ADN people actually working in unison, because slavery

[@neal520]

@@nickmoser8235 and how did they transport the massive blocks from a quarry 200 miles away

[@jimaguilar4028]

So much conjecture on the pyramids. The thing that stands out to me most, is for a people who were great at documenting their history in their own way, there are no hieroglyphs to highlight what is clearly their greatest effort.

[@postblitz]

0:45 almost impossible to come up with the same design Newton & Leibnitz: Allow us to introduce ourselves!

[@halfnelson6115]

There are timbers used in certain rooms in the construction of the Giza pyramids. Those timbers are still there and have been carbon dated. This isn't hard to find.

[@heathb4319]

And how old does it say they are?

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

@@heathb4319 Estimated between 3341-3094BC. This aligns with radiocarbon dates for the Great pyramid , which range from 2,853-3,809 BC. This is interesting because we know from artefacts and hieroglyphs that the Great Pyramid of Giza was built as the tomb for Pharoah Khufu. Khufu’s reign was between 2,589-2,566BC. So the carbon dating of the pyramid itself suggests it’s significantly older than Khufu, which wouldn’t make sense if it was supposed to be built as Khufu’s tomb. So either the pyramid was already constructed before it was used as Khufu’s tomb, or our understanding of the age of the pyramids and Khufu’s reign is greatly inaccurate. I think the latter is the more likely answer, but many other researchers and Egyptologists suggest that the pyramids (and the Sphinx statue in particular), are significantly older and already exists before even the Old Kingdom of ancient Egypt. Some people have suggested that the Sphinx statue in Giza may even be as old as from 12,000BC, based on water marks on the stone.

[@anchorpoint5871]

@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX it is not a tomb..never was ...wake up

[@keysersoze5094]

@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX I think these pyramids are used for navigation, they align perfectly with Orion.

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

@@anchorpoint5871 The pharaohs definitely used it as a tomb but maybe it’s original purpose was something else.

[@joachimschmidt7662]

If true... one helluva story. Love to see people with knowhow talking about things.

[@ridestreet20]

Everything I ever needed to know about ancient Egypt I learned from Steve Martin.

[@AeonMusicRecord]

there was definitely some connection and trade between far apart cultures in ancient world

[@vincentking6770]

I think the shit we don't understand, is what makes us human. We thrive on discovery with eachother. Thats all were meant for, here on earth. Substitute War with Discovery. We all have the power to come together.

[@jaydenholland6748]

Came across how people have made liquid stone for centuries. Fascinating how it makes more sense than having diamond edged cutting tools. Even the shiney surfaces which we think was made by polishing is infact done by using more water on the liquid mixing process. Go from Portland cement company and work back from what they started using.

[@al2207]

igneous rock are not a kind of concrete , please read about granite formation the time needed to grow crystals is extremely long like million years at the end liquid quartz bond everything together

[@jaydenholland6748]

@@al2207 igneous rocks are formed with heat and mixtures of materials isn't it? So why cant it be the case that rocks have been crushed and substances added along with water and heat to make liquid stone poured into moulds and set in place rather than moved miles and miles to there resting place?

[@jaydenholland6748]

@@al2207 also geopolymer granite and others has been mentioned throughout history for it's strength and versatility if you know how to use it!

[@al2207]

@@jaydenholland6748 no , please read about granite formation from magma under continents , and no granite is not a kind of concrete

[@al2207]

@@jaydenholland6748 please take a geology courses and not at the mudfossil university

[@benroberts1800]

I had no idea that Chumlee was so well versed on ancient Egypt.

[@Realhighlife]

I never knew Chumlee switch from pawn Stars to a pyramid archaeologist

[@billwilson3665]

Pretty funny. I've watched his other videos and he looks like he was hitting the pipe with joe in this one.

[@joelhungerford8388]

Good to see that fellow Aussie unchartedX is now getting the fame and recognition that he fully deserves. I started following him many years ago and I was always gobsmacked at how impressive and thoughtout his videos always are. One of the few out there whose content is not just a theoretical work, instead getting his hands dirty by going out to these locations alongside local and technical experts and presenting physical evidence too.

[@kp-legacy-5477]

To be fair he has spouted some crazy shit and even posted things as fact when they are undeniably proven to be false. I like his stuff too But the unchartedx channel definitely is geared towards the conspiracy side of things He makes great points but yeah he also has said heaps of dumb shit

[@tomzablee]

@@kp-legacy-5477 Can you provide any examples?

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

What if these people were together and learned these things together, great builders that were separated and went to the four corners of the earth and took all their learnings with them. So people all over the world would build the same structures using the same techniques and methods. Just like the Tower of Bable.

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

@@domainmojo2162 😱😱😱😱

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

@@domainmojo2162 are you agreeing or disagreeing?

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

@@domainmojo2162 ok then

[@althausz1]

Pretty neat stuff

[@kenaaronbabbit9987]

The blocks are epic

[@d_no_allyn_86]

Ad cool as this all sounds, and it is, first me.. I've seen the guys on the channel "scientists against myths" show how they did a lot of things back in the day with simple tools. They do it in real time. Not a vase exactly but the core drills and chiseling hieroglyphs into granite and stuff like that. Debunking many of the "ancient high technology, ancient drill" theory.

[@orionverduijn5539]

Exactly, everyone needs to see this

[@dankelpuff8381]

Yea, but the only issue there is that its a hand cranked drill working in granite. You can not reach this level of precision by hand and even with a CNC lathe today you can reach precision of about 0.01mm and yet Egyptians were reaching similar precision of 0.07mm several thousand years ago. It doesnt matter that you can work in granite with simple tools. What matters is how accurately you can do so and this level of accuracy is far beyond human. If you were to even manage to make it as precise as 0.5mm precision that would be very impressive. This is 10x more precise than even that.

[@Fallen7Pie]

I've seen those videos and they don't even vaguely explain that vase. The leap from being able to drill a hole to being able to machine surfaces to be perpendicular, concentric and flat in reference to each other with tolerances of a few thousandths of an inch in a single piece object is like the jump from a kite to a space ship. The video on unchartedx about that vase has most of the measurements in the 1/1000th to 5/1000th range. There are tens of thousands of these vases out there. So someone somewhere had tech that allowed for doing this kind of work in mass to a precision that is still rather expensive today. If you want to really get a feel for how difficult this is try and get a vase made in granite with tolerances of +/- 5/1000ths of an inch it's going to cost you thousands to tens of thousands of dollars even for something that small

[@DammDamian]

still have yet to show or explain how they cut granite with bronze tools the only ones ever discovered. 2.3 million perfectly cut stone granite blocks some weighing 70 tons

[@BeatlesFan1975]

That channel does NOT explain anything that even remotely explains what Ben and Jimmy are talking about

[@MlSHKlN]

i bet theres the exoskeleton of a bug that got smashed between the stones just sitting there preserved that could be carbon dated

[@r0ckworthy]

That's an excellent idea. There must be some bugs smashed in between some of those huge stones. Or for that matter, even just single-celled microbes of different types, dead skin cells from workers, pollen from the air...

[@-bld-]

Morphic resonance - Rupert Sheldrake. Explains the similarities between Japanese and Egyptian designs PERFECTLY.

[@jimakin3541]

We have no idea how old the Pyramids truly are, we also have no idea of how they were built.

[@HI-pi1er]

Ben makes me proud to be Aussie . What a export he is

[@justagentleman4091]

Can you teach me some Aussie slang?

[@Halbared]

@@justagentleman4091 Be careful with Seppos!

[@Sambochini]

Just use "give us a cig ya dog cunt or I'll stab ya gronk dog" as a general greeting and you're good to go

[@HI-pi1er]

@@Sambochini there lads who talk like that 99% of Australians don’t talk like that

[@neilagrawal1561]

The vase survived, but the the machine he claims made didn't. There's 40,000 pots in one place, yet we've yet to find a machine that he says made them

[@ChicoMuya]

We’ve no idea what kind of technology was used. The Titanic has almost completely dissolved and it hasn’t been that long. We’re talking about possibly MUCH older than 12/11 THOUSAND years…

[@rb9888]

do you have a machine for pots at home..?

[@Womble1252]

@@rb9888 nice!

[@stefanfilipov7254]

Leave you latte machine in your basement for like 10 000 years, and hope it will be there when you come back. Makes sense right?

[@tc4271]

Chum lee from pawn stars must of learned about pyramids and changed his career. Cool to see him on the pod! 👍

[@datnaka1877]

We can't even keep up with what time it is exactly when we think about it.

[@CoolCoyote]

I have come to the conclusion that mans best and most impressive feat is 'weight' the fact they came up with a way of lifting the ginormous stones and other huge things, but for me the pyramids are older than what they say. Every war humans have , we lose 1% of our history, thats a lot of knowledge lost over millennia

[@chiznowtch]

Mankind's greatest achievement: lifting heavy stuff. Come on dude.

[@CoolCoyote]

@@chiznowtch ok so you try and lift 40 ton stones then , also back 15 thousand years ago, they cant even do that now

[@chiznowtch]

@@CoolCoyote ok I will

[@chiznowtch]

@@CoolCoyote damn I couldn't do it u may be right

[@CoolCoyote]

@@chiznowtch so what trickery and how many people would you need?550 plus? but seriously so many examples of incredible weights lifted and placed perfectly, hancock reckons it could be sound waves , fuk knows

[@ProjectMoff]

To have the answers is to have authority. I think when history was being written up in the sense of "finalising" it (leaving us with what we have in our history books now about things such as ancient Egypt) there was the agenda to be seen as the source of knowledge which outweighed the agenda for the search for historical fact.

[@lildebbie7602]

Love it. Richard Dawkins said, " I don't like to replace one mystery with another". He was talking about the existence of God and creation but it's extremely relevant when talking about dating ancient sites.

[@killed_bya_bot7775]

You can blame religion for this. Everything needs to fit within the religious timeline. Or it doesn’t exist.

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

@@killed_bya_bot7775 I know some religions deny there were dinosaurs, but it is very mainstream, and they have fossils. Why would it matter if there was technology like this in the past. The beings or humans that built these are gone. The bible even talks about giants, so I don't understand how this is taboo.

[@killed_bya_bot7775]

@@eugeniaskelley5194 go and ask the heads of religions and why they have basically shut down any research into real ancient history because it doesn’t go with their story. Religions are pure evil.

[@chadwellington2524]

@@killed_bya_bot7775 true, but what are the people who made religions to keep people uninformed on real history hiding?

[@actuallyitskevin]

Incredible!

[@navh2000]

Randal Carlson's mini me has made it to the big time lol. Good work guys.

[@tinymetaltrees]

I will be cutting stone of hardness 6.5-7 after lunch today. I will be using water-cooled diamond-edged power tools. Copper chisels would be much less expensive, sadly they are inadequate to the task because rock that hard cuts copper chisels. My flat straight cuts, no longer than 5”, will not be anywhere near the precision of those vases. Rub it with sand? Please.

[@wompbozer3939]

Dude if you want I will direct you to a video of someone making a vase just like this with primitive tools

[@braidend4379]

They had Diamonds. Why would they try and do this with a soft metal tool when they could chisel it with a harder stone? Just because you don't have that ability doesn't mean it couldn't be done with a different skill set and knowledge.

[@wompbozer3939]

They had diorite stones, arsenical copper that was almost as hard as steel, flint tools. Broken pieces of the same type of material that they are trying to cut. These should be the top contender for what they used to shape the stone.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

I wonder where Galileo hid his power tools and CNC-machines he used to make his incredibly precise optical lenses...

[@price724]

The reason we can’t figure out when Man made all these miraculous stone cuts in designs is because Man did not make them

[@gianfrancofronzi8368]

Mark Antony, who was governor of Egypt during Caesars rule. I heard that he described the pyramids, now I heard this, I don't know if it is true. But he said they would shine and gleam in the sunlight. So it looks like the casing stone's were still on them, when he was there. Around 48 bc.

[@skipd9164]

I followed this guest and believe he is on to something. Trained machinist also know stone and building structures. It is about time these questions need to be addressed by the holders of historical artifacts.

[@kimberly4275]

You don't need a machine to melt granite tho. That's just 1100c needed. Literally a furnace and time will manage that. That's not even iron level of heat required

[@MrBouhejba]

@@kimberly4275who's talking about that

[@skipd9164]

@@kimberly4275 I'm pretty sure those items that I am talking about were not melted and poured. I would just like 1 of these educated professionals would give an actual proof of the hand work required to make one. Not a 5 minute example and then say it was done this way .