Graham Hancock and Flint Dibble Disagree Over Sphinx Water-Erosion Theory

JRE #2136 w/Graham Hancock & Flint Dibble
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[@Masonmack6]

Flint Dibble looks exactly like a Flint Dibble should look

[@vswildtom]

LMAO

[@sonnylambert4893]

Reminds me of the megalomaniac sadist nutter guy who is Fauci's replacement.

[@MaynardSaves]

Looks like he stole his dad's clothes. It's all too big for him. 😂

[@dillbert4084]

And doesn't look like Flint from G.I. Joe

[@vl4106]

Din’t Flibble***

[@ahmed91750]

Fuckin finally, we got a break form politics and Israel and comedians, this is prime JRE content right here

[@mr.b3168]

There was the mushroom guy

[@wairamastevenson2961]

Give me Randall Carlson and the rediscovery of old technology using plasma, chanting and body movement

[@PUDDICOMBE1992]

@@wairamastevenson2961 have you seen Randall on Shaun Ryan show? Pretty good

[@ahmed91750]

@@wairamastevenson2961 I would listen to 5 hours of that

[@jookowa3975]

@@wairamastevenson2961nah m8 we need Alex Grey back lmao

[@nevermind2322]

Flint Dibble could very well be Zach Galifianakis playing a prank on us

[@gbpferrao]

Or rainn wilson

[@sicboi]

Stavros Halkias more like it

[@Bigtaz777]

Rogan and Graham got cooked this episode

[@JoshuaLacroix-wk5hi]

this killed me lol

[@thecanadian916]

Except he looks nothing like him😂

[@zs9458]

Flint Dibble sounds like a condition you’d get from drinking the tap water in Michigan.

[@WhiteLivesMatterPL]

obamacare

[@48Ender48]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Tox.City785]

That’s gold 😂

[@Agnes135]

lmaooooo

[@Faazzz]

😂

[@joshuaross2784]

Title should have been: Graham Hancock and Flint Dibble Quibble over Sphinx Dribble.

[@AntonyBartlett]

Brilliant

[@Rrrafael.00]

God this is good lol

[@deathorb]

Please correct Sphinx spelling. Otherwise completely unamusing....

[@joshuaross2784]

@@deathorb oh gods, how humiliating, thank you.

[@deathorb]

@@joshuaross2784 amusement level restored

[@Paregoric]

Flint gives off "3 kids stacked in a trenchcoat" vibes. He even has the voice for it. 😂

[@Lor00D]

🤣🤣

[@thedude1982]

Lmao

[@michaelbirchall2247]

Thought you were going to say 3 kids locked in his basement vibes!

[@bughouser135]

He looks like he's using those little tiny plastic hands😂😂

[@stephanietan4702]

“Flintcent” Adultman 🐴

[@SubiKinubi]

He’s not only walking in his dads footsteps but wearing his shirts as well

[@hipsonsogbo]

Children of fathers who made their own way always end up like this.

[@jacobe9187]

Yooo 😭😭😭😭😭

[@kylekitchens1017]

Who? I’m confused

[@brianlee4503]

Those sleeves are about 2 inches to long.

[@TheXenochrist666]

@@kylekitchens1017flint, his dress shirt isn’t tailored at all it shouldn’t be able to cuff over your hand like that

[@hkiajtaqks5253]

"Where did you get it from?" "I got it from reading mannnn"

[@TheJulebrusHorror]

lol that was just such a classic Dibble

[@saqibshabir9755]

"Trust me bro"

[@crackpotjones]

To be fair its hard to sight all your scourses when your using more than 2.

[@sensi7476]

@@crackpotjones yeah but should you not come prepared to a debate with sources?

[@SPLKIRA]

The debate wasnt exactly about the sphinx though now was it? It seemed to me like it just kept getting broader and broader and even started to cover things other than what they were initially arguing over. ​@sensi7476

[@CompleteProducer84]

In another universe, Duncan Trussell never got into psychedelics and became Flint Dibble

[@cjperry2731]

In another universe, that's just Vaush..

[@user-kc5ec1lr1m]

😂😂😂

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

⁠@@cjperry2731 Vaush desperately needs a long hard psychedelic trip. It wouldn’t be an easy experience, but the world would benefit.

[@dennisrabidue4710]

No Duncan and Graham just swap places but keep there same voice from before I'd like that lol

[@dano1307]

I bet Dibble dabbled

[@captaintrips9606]

If my lawyer was dresssed like Flint Dibble.....I know im going to straight to jail.

[@bootsnthejeep]

Real strong public defender vibes.

[@clayj2761]

😂😂😂

[@jarrodreaves243]

This one is hilarious bro I laughed my azz off Ty

[@orangemanbad]

Did he wear the sleeves as gloves also?

[@orangemanbad]

Did he wear the sleeves as gloves also?

[@ItsZeroo98]

The fact that he decided to wear his headphones like that instead of taking hat off is hilarious

[@petrpumpkineater]

the best earmuffs are shaped like this to accommodate a sharp hat

[@mikewilliams-no9cm]

I like how respectful that dude was to let graham do his talk before he had a rebuttal

[@CreamyyStreams]

a man that committed to keeping his hat on can only have the most diabolical of hairlines

[@rhysm.5915]

Usually. One exception I've seen is my boss. Didn't see him without a ballcap for the first year we worked together, and I always assumed he was bald up top. One day his hat got knocked off when he was looking under something, and he has a pristine head of hair.

[@LightHouseReveals]

@@rhysm.5915😂 the fact you remember that. You’ve forgotten things from your childhood but you’ll remember seeing your bosses hair for the rest of your life 😂

[@jmac3112]

​@@rhysm.5915 well, in that period he would have had plenty of time to go to Turkey and back, and allowed his luscious new locks to grow through

[@rhysm.5915]

@@LightHouseReveals Probably for the best.

[@donwayne1357]

Just ask Dwight Yoakum.

[@brogle908]

The fact that Rogan hasn’t been to Egypt yet is crazy

[@chrisstratton8443]

IKR, he's rich (for some reason) if I had his money, I'd get out of the basement and travel to all the world's mysteries

[@BSB333]

Egypt is a crazy tyrannical place to go. Many people have bad experiences dealing with their government officials.

[@timbo7873]

Eddie Bravo went to Egypt over 10 years ago. I could be mistaken, but Joe might've went to the pyramid in Mexico.

[@jasonkillsformomy]

Egypt is a hell hole for tourists.

[@deannab8890]

They don’t allow recording equipment, and arrest tourists for arriving with it. Few documentaries and influencers are able to record.

[@ClericChris]

I can hear Flint in the hotel, yelling at his mom as they frantically look for his Indiana Jones hat early that morning.

[@blastroy1]

Most underrated comment of all time

[@brandonj6548]

Good shit.

[@tinandgonic3927]

😂😂

[@mina_loi]

thanks for that. i wanted to make a joke along those lines, but it felt too easy 😅

[@user-bz5yk1eo4e]

@@mina_loiwhat!? 😂

[@guarapo66]

I bet Flint Dibble plays Yu Gi Oh wearing that same suit

[@petrpumpkineater]

YuGiOh rox

[@brotherhood5735]

Somebody said “Jamie pull up Flints sleeve” 😂😂😂

[@jacktyler5241]

This got me good 💀

[@optimus_prime_____]

Shit had me in tears. His sleeves are long as fuck 😂😂😂😂

[@Itsmy2cent]

We all know (according to Kong vs Godzilla) that the pyramids were made using anti gravity technology underneath the ground in a secret city. It must be true, it’s in a Godzilla King Kong movie.

[@JR-gk7nc]

Grab my strong hand

[@arthurstovell8057]

Nailed it

[@PizzaGuy___]

This is the most Flint Dibble looking MF I ever seen

[@philosopher888stoned]

😂👏

[@sumuqh]

He looked like 🤡

[@conservativecoffee7121]

Hahahahahagahahahahahahahahahahahaga😂

[@BRIZZY-fq5jw]

🤣🤣🤣Trueeee

[@MoutinhoNuno]

There‘s no way those are his real hands.

[@Ceievans_57]

“Where’d you get that information” “I read it” 😂😂

[@davidpaul2797]

Which, what, makes it wrong? Because it wasn't somebody 'speaking their truth'?

[@DuckFart]

@@davidpaul2797no because you can’t talk trash, use a reference, and then when called upon to expound your point say “idk man I read it”. Like what??

[@samwise1790]

@@DuckFart I dont think people who didnt seriously work in academia can empathize with what he said. I had well, we'll over 100 references in my dissertation. I could not, gun to my head, recall every single one even on the night I finished writing or the day I defended it to my committee, at the height of how much of that I had in my active memory. There are many things which 'i know' when thinking or explaining some concept or specific hypothesis/analysis to someone, but aside from maybe several papers which are my favorites or stood out for one reason or other on a given issue, I cant just rattle off every source for a given bit of knowledge. But I'm fairly, if not completely sure the literature exists. So when asked about something while teaching in the field (geology) or casually, I will often say 'its in the literature'. By the same token, if I were having a convo on a podcast, I'm not going to come with hundreds of sources printed out/in a database and pause the whole conversation to look up a specific reference that nobody is going to look at, and 99% of the audience cant read for understanding.

[@kravvormagagor9595]

He's literally named after water erosion. Flint Dribble.

[@roryschutte5019]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MonkDowns]

The guys a clown. see my comment above.

[@Nipponing]

No.

[@soulaschoolofhealingarts]

Hahahaha. This brought me joy hahahaha

[@tibyron96]

😂😂😂😂 👍 lol niiioce 1

[@KenobiStark1]

It was Flint Dibble and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazing that shit up everyday

[@alejandroquiroz5857]

Bruh 😂

[@BrockLanders]

Hanging out with Johnny Hopkins

[@dopedinero2948]

😭😭😭😭😭😭💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@KenobiStark1]

I smoked pot with Johnny Hopkins

[@JohnDoe-yz9cn]

bro stepbrothers references are my favorite !!! you don't know anybody named Johnny Hopkins!!

[@roryduff2252]

The dating problem seems to centre around how much weathering occurred within the layers of limestone through groundwater action before the sphinx was carved and how much occurred after it was carved when both groundwater and surface rain water action weathering took place. This difference alone makes accurate dating impossible. What should be also considered is that around 7000 to 5000 years ago, when the Sahara was green to when it became desert, there would likely have been higher water tables in this area and these would have been getting lower and lower. This would have enhanced and deepened the groundwater erosion. I write this as someone who worked as an engineering geologist.

[@vato4917]

So whose side do you believe more curious? And is Joe Rogan an idiot?

[@roryduff2252]

@@vato4917 A scientist should be able to hold all sides and all theories in mind on a subject until they can be disproved. The advanced lost civilization can actually be considered in a different way to these two sides presented and a way which is substantiated by the observations presented by both of them. We have to take all observations into account, not ones that just fit a particular narrative.

[@father3dollarbill]

@@roryduff2252 great answer. I'd dare say the right answer.

[@jefflabbecomedy]

"I got this information from reading, man" "Reading what?" " I don't know" 😂

[@jawnydru2264]

“Where did you get this information?” “I got this information from reading mannnn” 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jasonlee9876]

that part made me laugh so hard too LOL

[@kameldiab5049]

very annoying response - found it condescending

[@growingweedisfordummies4190]

That's literally at the 10 min.mark. and that's the moment I hit pause and went commennt hunting.

[@nelch]

"Do your own research "

[@japprivera3129]

I didn't like him until that. Now I'll give weirdo a pass, ok whatever. 😂😂

[@IFlext]

God that hat pisses me off for no reason

[@vickramaujala1160]

Only because you can't pull off that groove of a look. Haters be jelly.

[@gai73]

He thinks it makes him interesting. Weird people use props in place of personalities

[@christopherthomas8536]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@domferretti]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@amidtownfarewell]

😂😂Hahaa! Right?

[@jamescooke7243]

After this debate, im leaning more to flints side. Flint had evidence, graham had theories and speculation

[@Whyexes]

Graham used the phrase “his truth” when speaking about the theories he based part of his ideas on. Which is what you say when your ideas are bullshit and you have no way to back them up. From this clip, Graham evidence is “oh well some geologists confirmed it but then didn’t want to be associated with it” which is like me saying I have a 20 inch cock but none of my girlfriends will confirm it. Flint had scientific evidence.

[@Nick889999]

You cant be serious… flint only has evidence based off of the extremely small amount of excavation that’s been done. They’ve excavated less than one 1% of the Sahara desert and the amazon, and less than 5% throughout all regions, but yet pushes a conclusive narrative based off of the very little surface that they’ve covered an excavated… and denies the possibility of any possible lost civilization within terrain that remains unexplored. And the complete lack of willingness to acknowledge that graham’s findings from his self funded explorations were very much likely to be man made was just painful to sit through. How the fuck could any objective minded person think that those underwater findings were created by nature?

[@XViTNg]

I watched this video by Stefan Milo, where he calmly debunks grahams TV show and theories. And it started me down a path where I started realizing Graham has zero evidence for any of his claims. I hate that Joe is so up grahams ass too - he barely let flint make his points without him and Graham trying to refute every statement.

[@bengiyardimli1925]

The whole point in this debate is one side has a theory and the other is trying to disprove it. It's hard to prove a negative so I doubt anyone's gonna change their minds in this discussion.

[@jossecoupe446]

​@@XViTNgThat vid is such a vibe haha, just a calm conversational exposition regarding just how little Graham really has to offer to support his wacky hypothesis

[@braddersfam1754]

Unfortunately, radiocarbon dating is not "definitive"

[@nelsonvanvickle8862]

“Everyone’s got a Flint until they get punched in the Dibble”- Iron Mike Tyson

[@TalkSteer]

Correction... "Everyone'th got a Flint until they get punched in the Dibble"- Mike Tython

[@colloquialsoliloquy6391]

What's the difference between a woman and a fridge? Fridge doesn't fart when you pull the meat out.

[@Autonova]

Lmao

[@2K9s]

Imagine Mike Tyson say “sphinx”. -Lisp

[@TalkSteer]

@@2K9s daaaaaym

[@ProbeGT2]

I've listened to the whole 4.5 hours. There were some harsh moments but damn it was fun to listen. I wish Joe to bring more debates like this one. No time limit, 4.5 freaking hours!

[@MrPhilodoxical]

This is THE format. The gold standard or information sharing.

[@Mugetsu2021]

Graham was really upset with this guy, I didn’t understand until it was brought up Flint was correlating Graham with very bad stuff like “white supremacy” like wtf no wonder Graham really doesn’t like this guy

[@simracingchannel7691]

Same listened to it yesterday. Great podcast.

[@Last_Chance.]

In the teams we call it a "knowledge transfer"

[@ProbeGT2]

@@Mugetsu2021 yeah, i kinda liked Flint until that woke shit of white supremacy came up. Still, seems like a nice guy but you can't take the woke out of a scholar. He had some good points and did not try to answer over his expertise field. It's a bit like Aliens, i want to believe Graham, but science has not proven anything yet.

[@samwise1790]

I dont think people who didnt seriously work in academia can empathize with what he said. I had well, well over 100 references in my dissertation. I could not, gun to my head, recall every single one even on the night I finished writing or the day I defended it to my committee, at the height of how much of that I had in my active memory. There are many things which 'i know' when thinking or explaining some concept or specific hypothesis/analysis to someone, but aside from maybe several papers which are my favorites or stood out for one reason or other on a given issue, I cant just rattle off every source for a given bit of knowledge. But I'm fairly, if not completely sure the literature exists. So when asked about something while teaching in the field (geology) or casually, I will often say 'its in the literature'. By the same token, if I were having a convo on a podcast, I'm not going to come with hundreds of sources printed out/in a database and pause the whole conversation to look up a specific reference that nobody is going to look at, and 99% of the audience cant read for understanding

[@someguy2016]

Randall must be a freak of nature then, because he always has sources. It's really easy to add them to the bottom the slide too.

[@davec5153]

Civilisations tended to exist around coast lines, especially around the Mediterranean. When the ice melted 10'000 years ago all the coast lines were submerged. So any archeology will be under the sea.

[@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96]

Lmao no

[@davec5153]

@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 There would obviously be humans inland but the people around the eastern Mediterranean were more advanced in building stone structures.

[@jackmullin8962]

​@@davec5153yeah prob true eating a healthier balance of fruits and food such as fish on so on leading to a healthier stress free brain development. Which probably led them to be a lot smarter then those inland commoners 😂

[@ricky4214]

​@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96it's literally accepted by mainstream science that sea levels rose about 400 feet during the younger dryas...lmao yes

[@jakobfritz815]

Flint looks like he wants to serve mashed potatoes with his "strong" hand. 😂

[@dannydoorod]

Make room for the fanny comin though 😂

[@ryancarter7655]

He even wears his cuffs oddly low on his hands like he couldn’t find a tailor….or his strong hand couldn’t get the buttons through

[@pepepepito623]

Funny one!

[@timbo7873]

It's Turkey Time!

[@andrewbragg504]

My germs

[@yannistefanidis7593]

"We have Indiana Jones at home" Indiana Jones at Home:

[@simpsot_]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pabloco480]

😂😂😂😂

[@garretburrow]

best comment

[@rkalla]

LOOL!

[@user-hl2dy3bt7j]

accurate

[@rolandlee6898]

There really is no objective and verifiable data to suggest the Sphynx is 12000 years old (and that age is completely arbitrary and chosen only because it fits with another unrelated hypothesis, borderline aliens eating Taco Bell in Atlantis stuff). The erosion is not an accurate form of dating something. Its speculation at best. It DOES rain In Egypt and it has been for "thousands of years". He is also right that because of the climate and material used the weathering effects from water are increased, especially from acidic rain. Dating the wood in the pyramids is as close as we can get to an accurate measurement of their age. Saying the wood was put there by aliens thousands of years later doesnt add anything to the conversation or offer any solutions to anything, its pure fantasy and speculation. The wood they dated came from seal off areas and between rocks, the only way to put it there would be when doing construction work on the structure itself. The ancient Sphynx theory is an interesting one, but it is not substantiated by anything or any other evidence suggesting a civilization engaging in megalith construction lived there 12000 years ago. You are making extraordinary claims based on a few lines in sand. It is far easier and likely for those to have occurred within the known lifetime of the structure, which is also consistent with the structures around it. For example severe acid rain (caused by volcanic eruption) would cause decades or centuries worth of weathering on limestone. And there have been several large known eruptions in relative proximity. Flooding is another aspect, especially if preceded by drought. We also dont really know what the weather patterns were that long ago. The precipitation might have been significantly higher then than it is now. Again, just speculation, but likewise a viable solution to the suggested excessive weathering. Hancock himself as attributed far more significant geological weathering of rock to a singular event, and yet here it needs "thousands of years" to achieve a few lines in rock that is actually made of water soluble minerals. As for the claim that it is "out of proportion".. Clearly ignoring the numerous other examples of sphynxes in Egypt with similar proportions. You undermine yourself there immediately because you demonstrate textbook cherry-picking data points, which does nothing but destroy any credibility you may have. If you want to prove a theory correct start by addressing the aspects that contradict it instead of just pretending they dont exist. This is why no one worth of note actually takes this theory seriously. It could well be true, but the way they go about is basically flat earth levels of ridiculous.

[@starkillerbeats420]

Flint Dibble opening with ancient vintage porn basically was an omega level boss move

[@fritzsnepp4778]

Why?

[@morganhale3434]

@@fritzsnepp4778 Why? Because stark is a moron.

[@wavygoods877]

Omega level boss move?

[@jackharper8307]

“Jaime, pull up Flint’s sleeves.” 😂🤣😂🤣😂💀

[@jasonfu2094]

Suit fits so poorly it honestly angers me lulz 😂

[@michaelbirchall2247]

That's fucking funny man!!!

[@gilbertbarba6486]

😂

[@aviduke]

​@@jasonfu2094 dude probably lost a load of weight and hasn't updated the wardrobe

[@brianhobbs6069]

Its great to see 2 men having a complete disagreement yet be civil and respectful of eachother.

[@augustgreig9420]

I only see 2 men who agree and a Dibble.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

I guess you didn't get to the part where they dissect Flint slandering Graham.

[@hershyworlds8041]

Watch the whole thing - Dibble bends the definition of respectful more than once.

[@danieldavison9138]

It was less than civil when you watch the full episode

[@teriyaki_9inety9ine27]

Hancock is a fraud anyway.

[@johnnyhall6245]

Flint Dibble looks like a mixture of Indiana Jones and Dwight Schrute

[@marktimbers8795]

I used to dibble a little bit in Flints in my younger dryass days.

[@michaelwallace4298]

If I were to go into public and make claims opposing a geologist, when I am not a geologist. I would turn up with convincing evidence, not long shots that were not particularly clear. I rather like Flint Dibble, but he is trying to argue an unprovable case. "I got this information by reading, man!" He is arguing with hearsay, which is not very convincing. "The one time I went to Giza, it rained!" It's just not an argument. If you went to the quarries and MEASURED the depth and length of patterns of wear - and then matched it against the wear at the Sphinx, then you have an argument.

[@AMrGrieves]

It’s funny because this is literally the opposite of what happened the entire interview, where hancocks only point is that he is the subject of an inquisition and repression by archaeologists despite being more famous than any archaeologist. He’s a total grifter than Flint proved doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@coolkid9967]

I think Flint is disliked without reason. He’s made pretty solid arguments, even the thing abou Graham being racist is not exactly untrue. The nazis used extremely similar arguments and resources as Graham to prove an Aryan origin of worldwide culture. Graham is similar to a Christian trying to defend god. He argues in a dishonest way, working by feelings and vague intuition more than actual evidence. Further, he asks the opponents to prove him wrong even though he has very little evidence supporting his hypothesis. One example that was very frustrating was his insistence that we have only actually dug up a tiny portion of the Sahara and the South American rainforests. While this is true, it is in no way evidence for his claims. We have found very little in areas we have dug, so saying that “we need to dig more” as some sort of point that his evidence lay elsewhere is disingenuous. While I agree more archaeology should be done, Grahams argument is purely that we have MISSED the magical key to his hypothesis. Even if we do more, I predict this key will remain missing.

[@petrpumpkineater]

I think Graham assumes people know some of his background (books & shows). So, if you were to investigate the work of both men, you'd get a better sense of their theories. Dibble is a classic bully & should not be trusted. In my experience, bullies put up a strong front to dissuade further investigation bc they know people are lazy & won't go deeper. My biggest red flag is the way a bully belittles their opponent: personal attacks, laughter, short & dismissive rebuttals, always wanting to move along rather than stay on an issue & get to the heart of it, moving the target, behaving in a unique way to stay top of mind (weird name, clothes, & speech). Everything a bully does is on the surface, which is this debate. I bet very few have examimed Graham's work and fewer even know who this Dibble guy is before his appearance on the JRE. Rogan gave Dibble the once-in-a-lifetime chance to debate Hancock for hours & the fact he sticks to his bully script shows there is nothing below the surface except the agenda of his establishment & the preservation of their narrative.

[@AMrGrieves]

@@petrpumpkineater Hancock and his supporters are peak victim mentality thinkers. Just because the grift that is your life’s work is exposed in front of millions doesn’t mean you are being bullied. It’s just what happens when your ideas are wrong. Dibble doesn’t care about the man, he cares about the ideas and the evidence. And again, look how many more people here are bullying flint based on his appearance.

[@Airestotle09]

I love how both Flint and Graham are dressed as though there going to an archaeological expedition in Egypt right after the podcast

[@Airestotle09]

@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 watch Jurassic Park

[@Airestotle09]

@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 watch Jurassic Park

[@CBF98]

​@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96what would you wear on an archeological trip to Egypt?

[@21SebastianS21]

He can't keep the headphones on but refuses to take off his hat.

[@jacket5456]

Reminds me of a certain Astrophysicist that Joe hasn't had back on in a couple years.

[@marquisboyd6263]

😂

[@zGJungle]

Is he trying to hide baldness or some thing ?

[@Nalololol]

​@@jacket5456thank god

[@jdraider925]

Well it’s obviously because the top of his head would be way too blinding.

[@therealboywonder6832]

Whether you agree with Flint Dibble or Graham Hancock or not. Both deserve respect for having this conversation. Especially Flint for coming on as a mainstream archaeologist

[@brandonhopkins1106]

I agree with the one who actually has a degree and PhD and not the idiot former journalist

[@marklang2019]

Flint: It doesn't look like anything we've seen before. Dismiss. Flint: You haven't shown us anything that doesn't look like what we've seen before.

[@randyquaid9087]

Flint Dibble is definitely the guy that pushes up his glasses with one finger & says “well, actualllly..”

[@DemonAW]

Are you upset Graham looked like an idiot for 4 hours?

[@okboi5371]

​@@DemonAWregardless of what you think of the debate, Flint looked and acted like a pompous asshole. I mean, a fedora? Really? It's just way too perfect.😊

[@DemonAW]

@okboi5371 attacking physical appearance because you're argument got destroyed is 3rd grade cry baby cheese

[@okboi5371]

@@DemonAW not my argument. I don't see evidence GH is right. I just think Flint is an asshole

[@jimmyhaymaker]

😂😂😂

[@stewie5101]

It’s nice to hear people having a debate without screaming at each other

[@tommym321]

It’s not really a debate. It’s a pseudoscience doing his best to trick people into thinking he is “debating” an actual scientist

[@TheBrendon67]

Yeah. Debates on mainstream media are agenda heavy. So it turns into a shouting match and a “gotcha” kind of affair. Old. Real old.

[@pochodieudonne]

😂 boy do I have a surprise for you. Listen to the whole episode

[@chocobo6400]

“Source” “from uhh reading! I don’t know! Egyptologists!” What a professional answer

[@AdmirCustovic]

What was the dvd series they mention? Magical egypt? What streaming app is it on?

[@kristinklein3109]

Prime video is where I found it magical Egypt John Anthony West

[@orianna1220]

Hi I'm flint dibble dome, owner of the dismdale dibbledome

[@YourHeartsDesires]

The peculiar purple pieman of porcupine peak?

[@gtaatmiami]

If you see a guy that looks like Flint Dibble in Red Dead, you know you’re getting robbed

[@Here4vids680]

😂😂😂

[@samsmith6643]

😂😂😂.

[@Trumanlingle]

Ffs 😂

[@mikeLivornese]

In the clothing store in st. Denis

[@yashnigam6]

Nah, he looks more like a character who send you on a quest to find rare gems.😅

[@jaysonblake4865]

I used to enjoy graham but I’ve just watched to many things debunking his claims. I think he’s a smart and brilliant guy but even he says he’s not an archaeologist. I think to many take what he says as matter a fact.

[@muddywitch9016]

What puts me off thinking of Flint Dibble as an honest actor in this debate is his constant smirk. “How do you know that?” “I don’t know, man!” Peak academic integrity there!

[@MrGrim-ib4ix]

Graham doesn't even believe in academia to begin with so that's not really a good dig.

[@muddywitch9016]

@@MrGrim-ib4ix What does ‘believe in academia’ mean here?

[@jamesbettell5185]

Hancock’s always reminding Jamie that it’s the HDMI cable, like Jamie got confused and didn’t know how to connect a laptop.

[@slamtransistor]

😂

[@christiensebastien2442]

Or it's cause he's a condescending pr*ck

[@mathew66]

Flint Dibble has the hand of the guy from scary movie💀

[@leedobson]

Take mah hayaaaand

[@Gods-bad-boy]

Bro, I don't wanna be mean, but his wittle hands creep me out

[@ACDZ123]

@@Gods-bad-boy hard to imagine hands like that in the field

[@justicetruth5456]

LOL!!! Does he stuff turkeys with that hand?

[@katey1dog]

​@@justicetruth5456He probably kills small animals with those small hands. 😂😂😂

[@pompelmostique]

Pumpkin head Joe has better archeology eyes now than the archeologist..."that doesn't look the same to me" 😅

[@THECELTICIBERIAN]

This was quality Flint Dibble is awesome right out of south park, I have changed my position a bit now on the lost city but still open to it, we do need to hear both sides so we can make a decision on the topics at hand

[@damiankildare9230]

Dibbs REALLY wanted to be Indiana Jones for Halloween as youth and will be damned if he's gonna give up now.

[@dlansman]

Headphones be damned, he's keeping that goofy ass hat on his head 😭

[@ronananderson]

It's cringe af

[@nortonyatzee7254]

The too long white sleeves are a childlike nice touch.

[@Ktmfan450]

Indiana is a bad ass Why wouldn't you dress as him any chance that you have

[@nonni3955]

@@Ktmfan450 cant argue with that but still mad funny on that guy

[@seanblake6785]

Dibble loves his dad so much, he decided to wear his suit

[@markrichards2634]

Yeah, thats what I was trying to say.

[@streetcrimesouffle1668]

I tagged him on fb asking how it felt to wear his daddy's suit. The fb group removed my comment.

[@sparkyspinz9897]

@@streetcrimesouffle1668 Are you bragging about the fact you have no life?

[@brucedickinson12]

Who is his dad . Officer dibble from top cat ??

[@ChicagoYoureOut]

​@@sparkyspinz9897why does he have no life? He commented just like you did. You're not clever.

[@whosaidthat5236]

Those aren’t weathering marks out of respect on the granite facing blocks. Those are from how the broke the blocks down. They would pick holes along the block put wedges in then hit them till it splits the block. You can find many videos of old Italian stone masons doing it. But my reference comes from a 90’s documentary I watched on how they built the pyramids and they showed how they did it because they still do it the same way today

[@halowaffles]

Somebody else said "I'll take an eighth of purple kush, and a half ounce of that Flint Dibble" 😆💀😆

[@Anfa18]

"I don't know man, I don't read hieroglyphs... I got that information from reading man". Sounds about right to me.

[@flaigus]

Graham can’t read hieroglyphs either you do realise that?

[@puneetsharma1437]

@@flaigus can that make point invalid

[@flaigus]

@@puneetsharma1437 what is the point being made?

[@Anfa18]

@@flaigus yeah but he doesn't claim to "know" but rather wants to find out why and how.

[@flaigus]

@@Anfa18 as does Flint, he doesn’t read hieroglyphs because they have been studied, deciphered, translated and printed by professionals in THAT field which he has read. I don’t read German but I’am able to read Das Boot. What’s hard to understand?

[@joebee1459]

Let this be a lesson for folks with small hands. Do not have giant cuffs around your wrist if you have em, I makes them look like baby hands.

[@georgemulford2910]

Small hand people are subjugated to a lot of prejudice - your comment is a perfect example of that

[@andrewbeard7625]

⁠small handed people are not to be trusted.

[@trevorsalamander8711]

@@georgemulford2910you got small hands too don’t you?

[@qbcomicaddict2590]

Guy looks like the butler from scary movie 2. Here take my strong hand 😂

[@OUD4444]

@@trevorsalamander8711lol fucking tiny

[@jonnybricks22]

The Sphinx was not a lion. It was a jackal aka Anubis. This is why its legs are so long. This is another example of proportion in ancient Egyptian sculptures

[@unclescipio3136]

Pretty huge paws for a jackal.

[@naomiomiomi6857]

Anyone else notice Graham just dabbled while Flint Dibbled?

[@ish1102]

Flint dibble looks like a lawyer with a 13% conviction rate

[@ZaidrianSpiders]

If you hire him you getting life, and you didn’t even do a crime

[@lglov3]

Jack Kelly. Lawyer.

[@tomz5704]

​@@lglov3it's the small hands

[@TheNemesis442]

so, he's not putting innocent people behind bars...? i can get behind that. He sounds like a good dude.

[@zerg0s]

…you realize 13% for a lawyer is REALLY good, right? Now, for a prosecutor it would be bad, but a lawyer? I’d take that guy.

[@nitrojanks2977]

Take my strong hand- Flint Dibble

[@NightKidBrandon]

☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@christopherrogers7604]

I was looking for the bowl of mashed potatoes

[@TheBrendon67]

“My germs…”

[@pownerpwn5364]

HAHAHAHAHA ... just wrote the same thing.. and then i see this 😂

[@nitrojanks2977]

@@pownerpwn5364 I love how everyone is seeing it 😂

[@Tys583]

flint dibble is everything a south park character would be

[@nicolaferri8158]

It was really odd hearing Graham saying he doesn't believe the pyramids are twelve thousands years old. I thought his point was always that the Egyptians already found the structures and just work on them. And that it is proved by the subsequently other trials of building pyramids which are smaller in scale, all in ruins not passing the test of time like the one in Giza.

[@hexingon6088]

Where do people even pull this information from?

[@camanderson9954]

Flint Dibble's name is so good, you can't even find a comment about the content of the actual video

[@BrandonTheBoyWonder]

Hahahahah yeahhhhh I know! I imagine most of the people who are commenting about his name haven’t actually listened to the entire video. Just speculation

[@user-hl2dy3bt7j]

@@BrandonTheBoyWonder so true

[@michaeltaberner4079]

That is the worst part about this. Nobody is going to even listen to him

[@BrandonTheBoyWonder]

@@michaeltaberner4079 I’ve got about 30mins left to watch. Definitely needs to be watched all the way through. I love Graham and have been trying to watch this with a more critical openness to what he’s saying…….BUT I’d say within the first 30mins you can tell how “main stream archeology” has no interest in any other ideas. It’s like telling someone that an orange is in the shape of a circle but they say “ohhh no no that’s too far of a stretch” I’m not sure if it’s people’s own pride or just straight ignorance because they’ve been taught by texts books and what other people have told them is true their whole life 🧐 Overall awesome interview and really appreciate everything Joe and Graham have done

[@travisbarboza5803]

@@BrandonTheBoyWonderare you joking? All he brought into the argument was quotes and speculation while Dibble brought scientific data to prove his points…you guys just want to believe bullshit so bad sometimes including Joe🤣

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

I've never heard "I don't know, man" cited as a source.

[@mattmmk]

At least he didn't pretend he did know. I liked the conversation.

[@libertariansasquatch]

Yea that was rough lol

[@spacecoastmed]

I hate on Reddit when pseudo-scholars demand a source in a conversation. I've never been asked for one but whenever I read that BS it makes me think I am not posting in MLA or APA, so screw your source.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@@spacecoastmed He didn't have to find links to papers or anything, just a name or two of who said what he's saying.

[@Shoikan06]

@@mattmmk Yea hilarous comparitively. Graham just making up citations a few times indrectly except for an occasional reference to Jon West or Mr. Shock. He makes many references with no evidence. You listen to this arguement and you think Dribble is a total idiot except he shows similar pictures as Robert Shock and Graham and immediate dismissed. Then he asks for independent dating... no response. Just sad and shows a huge gap in Graham's thinking. He is well spoken but that's about it.

[@13lack13ird]

Rogan would've been a great mediator if he wasn't so biased

[@traininglime5559]

This is what academics needs to be! I disagree with Graham Hancock, but I respect the man for having the curiosity and encouraging others to study, discover and learn about our ancestors. As academics we should debate Graham and show him respect; I am not sure who the last two academics were that debated Graham on here, but they were extremely rude. In academics we don't use ad hominem attacks. We pushback with evidence and debate respectfully. When we are rude, we make Graham seem correct by default. However, I would love for Graham's theory of these advanced ancient civilizations from long ago to be true! We need adventure in this world.

[@rblbatb]

I respect both men for agreeing to come on the show and having a friendly debate. I like hearing multiple sides of an issue.

[@ebizzle2507]

The group in power in all avenues doesn't.

[@josh-kf2rd]

Idk look at the difference between Flint's behavior when Graham is speaking and Graham's behavior when Flint is speaking.

[@BnM36912]

Dibble's condescending attitude makes me want to not listen to him, which sucks. Are all archeologists egomaniacs? I wish a more amicable person had come on to debate Graham

[@josh-kf2rd]

@BnM36912 based on just this clip, I'd say Graham set the tone.

[@BnM36912]

@@josh-kf2rd I watched all 4.5 hours on Spotify and Dibble was condescending from the very beginning. It's also very telling when these professionals feel the need to attack ad hominem non stop.

[@twigtwigtwig]

hdmi cable did overtime this episode

[@marianbarbu536]

Archeology should really be a multidisciplinary field. An archeologist is not an engineer or a climatologist. Or a geologist. Also, they said Troy didn't exist but Schliemann proved otherwise. So why not the Sphinx is not a lot older?

[@samuelwheeler9678]

"They" didn't say Troy didn't exist. Troy was a city well into recorded history. The question was whether the Troy of the Greco-Roman period was the same Troy as in Homer and whether the events described their existed. The nature of Schliemann's expedition, using dynamite etc, may have destroyed the evidence that would answer this question definitively.

[@loochan-o7174]

"Go back le tepe" is how it's written in my mind whenever I hear Graham telling Gobekli tepe

[@RxUSE247]

Dibble what’s your source …. Dibble: reading That dibble dribble 😂

[@Dmc-kj4iv]

Dwyane dibbly

[@sleep_sounds]

@@Dmc-kj4iv Red Dwarf reference? I thought no one remembered that show

[@Dmc-kj4iv]

@@sleep_sounds funniest episode,,, cool 😎 cat ended up Dwyane dibbly with his thermos 🤣👍

[@Jessman15]

lol he has answers like Israelis. ( can u answer the question) as he talks in circles. Proof? I read it

[@Erik-op2hy]

Reading proven studies. And what’s Graham’s source.. oh yeah.. his own mind 😂😂

[@ItsmeSUGSNOVEMBER]

the hat staying on with the headphones hanging off his ears is enough for me lol

[@Jmaug]

Gangsta

[@MadDawg-ni6ks]

Everyone hating on flint but he making good points with evidence throughout

[@rtsoldat]

blurry pics from 2003

[@dieselnation555]

Your cracked

[@Marwolaeth01]

If you can’t attack the substance of someone’s argument, attack the person. Ad hominem is very strong in this comment section. Wonder why?

[@Blackstone175]

Not really, atleast I don't think so. He bends to whatever position is more convenient. First he says things basically last forever, then at other locations he basically says things deteriorate to quickly. He uses whatever line is more convenient for the current segment. Also almost no one cares about seed.

[@nickdemeersman2409]

​@@Blackstone175 no one cares about seeds is the problem. Things like seeds, fragmets of pottery, animal bones, shells and worked stone are the core of archeology for most of human existance. If you want to say anything meaningful about human development you gotto delve into all of that. The problem things like indiana jones and the publicity of the find of king tuts intact tomb have had is that so many people believe that what archeology is; big finds spectacular revelations. The most spectacular thing right now is they found a way to decypher those charcolled manuscripts they found near pompeii in the 18th and 19th century, which is another mark of archeology, going back to earlier finds with new tech, new insights and experiences

[@newfjuice6691]

Graham is the guy that after you get older you feel bad for bullying in high school… Flint is the guy that you don’t lol.

[@redavis6581]

You know it's an amazing JRE episode when Graham Hancock and Sherlock Holmes are in conversation.

[@kipp1231]

Flint Dibble looks like Richard Dryfus playing Flint Dibble.

[@USinDistress-yf5iy]

That's grand 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kepihead]

"Like to prove that wouldn't you? Get your name in the National Geographic. "

[@thaynealexander]

Wow, that's........Accurate.

[@GiantMeteor2028]

Had to look up the reference, obviously, because i didn't get it. Ohhh boy, do i get it now, and you sir, i tip my hat to for a tasteful jab.

[@J.S325]

Richard Dreyfuss playing nerdy Indiana Jones more like it

[@irishguyjg_2ndchancerecovery]

If they would give the same respect to Dibble as they do most guests, he could make a presentable case, but the over talking and disrespect is glaring. Dont even give these hawks the time Dibble. I tend to believe Hancock, because ive read his books, especially Shock too, but dibble does present a damn compelling case

[@kennethestes1828]

I listened to this full podcast and I can't tell if Hancock is missing crucial information by not having a formal education on these things or if Dibble is so formally trained that he is too captured by the parameters of the paradigm causing him to be too close minded and dismissive. Either way, great conversation

[@RobertLouisMoore]

It's the second case. The whole field is petty like this. If anything Graham is caught up in belief system when it comes to his preference for the comet impact hypothesis for the YDB. It is more complex than that. But Graham has done a lot to move the field by talking about the subject. Even the guy that created the original hypothesis for the YD climate change - Wallace Broecker ended up changing his mind a few years ago, shortly before he passed away. None of these people will cite Graham hancock. But he is coting the same papers that Graham does in his Magicians of the Gods book

[@richardbaudouin646]

Dribble gets too caught up in evidence. Graham feels with feelings.

[@azmainfaiak8111]

​@@RobertLouisMoorereally?? What evidence does Graham has ?? Other that lost civilization of the gaps arguments??

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@azmainfaiak8111 Actually listen to the fucking podcast where he presents all his evidence in the debate if you want it, lol. What do you want me to do? Transcribe the fucking podcast in a comment for you? If you want to hear his evidence just listen to the pod.

[@RobertLouisMoore]

@@azmainfaiak8111 well friend, many distinct indigenous nations tell us they have memory of coming from a technically advanced civilization that lost touch with nature and experienced a downfall as a result. The Lakota say this is like the 7th or 8th cycle, or something like that. With all due respect, sir or madame, it is only the western mind and its psychotic nature that is able to ignore all the evidence available that shows us that we are lost, and that in the past it seems a humbling fact that humanity has always chosen to destroy itself

[@misterwallace3479]

When you have a piece of food in the corner of your mouth-that’s a Flint Dibble.

[@justapawg1999]

As an undergrad student who started her bachelors in geology and then transferred into anthropology for archaeology, minoring in geology (I’ll get that damned geology bachelors one day) I think it’s awesome that theories can be argued for and against using geological processes it’s awesome seeing that the two disciplines have such a cross over and impact on each other!

[@AfterBurner369]

Graham Hancock needs to debate Jason Breshears of Archaix. He won't be able to blind Jason with his lies & disinfo. Thanks to Jason & his growing number of students, the days of GH is coming to an end.

[@jimthelegend9992]

“I don’t know man… I got it from reading man” Ah. Well that’s a solid argument 😂

[@herb2078]

Ye that was poor 😂

[@owenbensted7900]

As opposed to saying it just looks older

[@dcs4947]

Something that Graham refuses to do.

[@stevejones8550]

And to be so smug about it

[@thaynealexander]

Yeah that was incredibly sanctimonious. Made me lose almost all respect for him.

[@paulpatrulescu9976]

All I kept thinking about was “take my strong hand”

[@CHAZZ08]

“My germs “ face ahh😂😂😂

[@leorodriguez9344]

I’m crying bruh 💀

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Ooooff!

[@EssentriksMedia]

This got me 😂

[@nitrojanks2977]

😂😂😂😂😂I’m glad others are seeing it

[@tkxd_11]

I think both perspectives are crucial to a healthy study of Archaeology honestly. Graham is not traditionally educated to the extent that Flint is, but this does not mean his 30 years of study go completely in the trash. Flint also has the right to dispute and does so well, but there is no disputing the fact that we do not know everything. Graham should be careful with the claims he makes as well because he does lack in certain areas of expertise. Open mindedness in any area of study is valuable when done correctly. Their skill sets would complement each other greatly I think. Sort of a checks and balances type of deal. Hopefully the next time they meet something more fruitful can come from it.

[@cremebrulee6667]

I appreciate Flint for coming on and debating, lots of good points.

[@Cloudy_Jones]

Im all for hearing both sides of the argument but Mr Dibble laughing at he consideration that it could be water erosion and not even entertaining the other theories is just disingenuous . He assumes he knows more than both of them but speaking with authority on something you also aren’t 100% sure about is both rude and disrespectful to anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

[@WJHDetroit]

This exactly the point that Graham and Robert Schoch talk about. The authority and arrogance these people come off with is aggressive and dismissive to conversation.

[@zwan1886]

you just know he got the 💉

[@kielsol]

He laughed so many times through this, I just turned it off because this is still not the guy to actually debate Graham. Just another guy gliding through life off his dads achievements that wears a ridiculous hat.

[@user-kw4ez8bj8w]

He's a tool

[@eamonncuerden-conboy6621]

Im actually really glad Dibble came on the show. His hate and laugh are unbearable but he is asking important questions that Graham and co can now work on refuting. Listening to parts of the interview were paaainful, but this is the first step towards a real debate and the exchange of information instead of two separate sides nitpicking about the specifics of who said what.

[@jenburch1]

"My dad was an archaeologist, see this is his shirt."- Flint Dribble

[@theonexx762]

Flint Dibble vs Younger Dryass, a duel of century

[@microfarming8583]

Flint absolutely wiped the floor with Hancock.

[@colino5056]

@@microfarming8583yes and he did it in a respectable manner. I think it’s still important people like Graham exist, it should just be more clear we have a lot of evidence that says otherwise.

[@microfarming8583]

@@colino5056 I totally agree! I have always lived Hancock podcasts and will continue to do so. But he was shown to be on very shaky ground by Dibble.

[@theyeticlutch3486]

Lmao

[@jaredfoust9210]

Those two men disagree, but they should remember that they share a great love of our History. Doctor's are often not the most socially skilled, which is why Flint comes off as rude, but I think patience with these types is worth the knowledge they have.

[@judithhowell5738]

Is the head of the sphynx higher than the surrounding plateau? If so where did all those layers of dense rock go? The head must have been built up from imported material.. can anyone verify the height of the head in comparison to the height of the plateau?

[@owenbenjamin6413]

Flint Dibble looks like Jack Black if he was playing an archaeologist named Flint Dibble

[@welp2388]

Who let the Reddit mod on JRE?

[@00teatime]

💀

[@Soundsaboutright42]

😂😂😂

[@NuffxSaid]

Perfection 😂

[@Neal9443]

Omfg this literally describes his look and whole personality perfectly.

[@LowKickMT]

graham hankock is not a reddit mod, hes a griefter and bs artist

[@Red40manman]

Flint had a dad named harry dibble, too, and he was just as whackh down to the same hat and everything. Full name was Harold L. Dibble

[@roarzahnz3119]

Bros hands look fake..graham you have my vote bro gives me goosebump vibes 😊

[@Today_I_Choose_Violence]

How much do you want to bet ol' Dibble has whacked it to Indiana Jones while wearing that hat?

[@RogueReplicant]

Yeah, thanks for that horrific image 😬

[@HugeDike]

id put $5 on it. my question to you sir, is what do you think his favorite whack scene is?

[@Hallo_215]

@@HugeDikeRolling Boulder sequence

[@HugeDike]

@@Hallo_215 i think its the face melting scene