Joe Rogan: "Israel is Beyond Repair"

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Tim Dillon is an American comedian, podcaster, and actor. He is the host of the Tim Dillon Show podcast
Clip Taken From JRE #2077 w/ Tim Dillon
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Tim Dillon
Producer: Jamie Vernon
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[@MsBritanie73]

Why are "comedians" so much more logical, rational and insightful than those leading this country? Thanks Tim.

[@tylerdurden788]

The jesters of our time

[@shaneelliott6658]

He is logical but he and a lot of others act like they are open to discussion. One of my favorite parts... "so how do they get out of Gaza? Well some of the other muslim countries should take them. Yeah, but ARE the other muslim countries taking them? Well... No" 😂😂😂

[@grunt9131]

Well that is a low bar😂😂

[@Screaming-Bees]

Because the people we elect aren't the ones who actually run this country.

[@joeesph55]

Damaged people read others emotions as well as anyone

[@mediterraneandiet2483]

No one is above criticism. NO ONE.

[@avery.a5948]

Not the Israelis are because they are god people

[@mediterraneandiet2483]

@@avery.a5948 You are beyond stupid.

[@noble1064]

And no one is above justice, not even Hamas.

[@yunowot]

Well, apart from me, of course.

[@ably1089]

@@noble1064 Woman and children ?

[@ar11127]

As a Palestinian, I want to emphasize that we're rooted in our land, and implying we should leave is insulting. This is our land and our grandparents land and we will not be refugees. We would rather die here. The reluctance of neighboring countries to absorb us is due to our desire for self-governance, leading to tensions as seen before in Lebanon and Jordan. The solution lies in establishing a single, inclusive country where everyone is treated equally. Israel's denial of basic human rights, restricting movement and access, results in a cycle of conflict and resentment. I worked all over the world but cant fly back to Palestine. Im not allowed in the Israeli airport nor in Israel, and I was born there, so were my great grandparents. Im not allowed to even drive in many roads since they’re Jewish only. Its absolutely crazy.

[@johndong7524]

You're nothing more than squatters on historical Jewish lands.

[@raymondotoole2600]

That’s not true. You’re allowed to travel in Israel if you’re Muslim.

[@ar11127]

@@raymondotoole2600 most Palestinians whom hold a Palestinian ID face severe restrictions on freedom of movement within Israel, and in-between towns and villages in the West-bank, irrespective of their religion. But thats just one small aspect of the human rights violations we face.

[@chavezechavez6378]

Not trying to be a dick, but if you can't come to an agreement with a dominant more advanced civilization you are going to lose. It's happened thousands of times through the centuries. You brought Israel to the point where they don't want to put up with dealing with you. I don't necessarily agree with what Israel is doing, but I'm smart enough to know they are the dominant and you refused to negotiate. All or nothing is a fools game. You will lose everything without making a deal and getting rid of Hamas. The only way. Sadly your leaders screwed you in the past and probably too late to fix. I know there are people playing both sides as well, but that only made it more necessary to make a deal.

[@mirzapa]

@@raymondotoole2600 Absolutely not true. If “traveling” means “special streets” and going through 48 checkpoints to travel 3 miles and being subjected to humiliation by the whim of a 19 year old from USA, then that is NOT traveling. That’s barely surviving.

[@shannonkona]

I'm an old lady who has been forced to pay for genocide for my entire life; Vietnam, Korea, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and many places I don't even know about - while our people live in cardboard boxes on the sidewalk. I'm #^$%ing sick of it.

[@idadajoshua2716]

The worse Libya with no provocation just because of there success

[@noobian458]

@@idadajoshua2716 Their success? Libya was in a state of civil war lmao yes the Americans was very worried about a successful and prosperous Libya under Qaddafi.

[@unicornshereen2316]

@@noobian458 Libya has many resources, he challenged the Dollar$$ and was calling for unity of Africa.

[@noobian458]

@@unicornshereen2316 Libya never will have nearly enough wealth to challenge the US dollar lmao. Qaddafi could not keep his country together, he was in no position to challenge anybody. The great leader of Libya could not even beat Chad in a war (that Qaddafi started!), a country like 10x poorer... He is a joke on the world stage. A dead joke.

[@danielo7710]

How can you be alive if you went thru genocide liar

[@waynzignordics]

"Why don't neighboring nations take in the Palestinians?" Israel wants to annex Gaza (and then the West Bank). Why would anyone help Israel ethnically cleans and annex Gaza? When people say "Israel shouldn't exist," they're called antisemitic, but when people say "We should just relocate the Palestinians somewhere else," everyone claps along like seals. People are so clueless about this conflict.

[@numbers7n]

There are about 50 Islamic countries,... The Palestinians could be taken in. The Jews have ONE country, but that's one too many for the Islamists and their parrots (you). None of you clowns are telling all the Arabs to go back to the Arabian peninsula. Meaning - you're perfectly fine with Islamic colonization,... you only oppose the Jews. And even without the land, you'd oppose the Jews (as Islam demands you do). You aren't honest.

[@ramboH1000]

you're 100% right. Moving the Palestinians to other arab countries only helps israel walk in and take their land.

[@MrBurleyfish]

There is a reason Egypt has a wall built to keep Hamas terrorists out.

[@Blaane15]

It not about what is right, just, or fair. It is about children not dying and being mutilated. Both sides are to blame in this conflict and the cycle will never end. Isreal is simply to strong and cannot be forced to move. That is the US's fault and we need to stop supporting them. However, the quickest and most expedient way to save children is for other countries to take in the Palastinians and break the cycle forever. It is not right, just, or fair. It also rewards bad actors(Isreal and thier supporters) for bad behavior. However, it will save the lives of innocents now and in the future. At this point, to me, that is the only thing that matters.

[@ericdale4641]

Palestinians are a destabilizing presence in other Middle Eastern countries.

[@user-tt9zc2ii3b]

I am American who lived in several countries in the Middle East.. the majority of people don’t want to come to America.. it’s mostly the younger ones that want to adventure and see the world. Most of them go back to their country of origin after they grow older.

[@ANEEAMA]

If USA keep away from Middle East completely, they don’t even visit USA . Particularly, when China and Global south arising , they don’t even want the West . The problem is USA and Europe should leave Middle East completely.

[@mustafanaser9789]

I am Arab living in Europe. If I had a choice to decide where to live it would be syria. But Syria is fucked up due to geostrategic wars now. But I would never live in saudi arabia or UAE. They are mentally just completely different. We are not all the same. Therefore I live rather in Europe like now. But if Europe, USA and other global powers would leave us alone I would be the first one to go back because then I can help there to rebuild the infrastructure. But if I go back now it would be uncertain if I become a refugee again.

[@user-tt9zc2ii3b]

@@mustafanaser9789 criminal, war loving people of the west are the ones destroying lands.. then they complain of immigration of so many refugees. By the way, I visited Syria before the war.. it was breathtaking experience, people, food, cheap products , great quality. I pray for peace and prosperity.

[@BIGGOODBOY]

Wrong.. they all stay in foreign countries

[@user-tt9zc2ii3b]

@@BIGGOODBOY stop bombing them and you will see!!

[@sphesihlemusabuthelezi7157]

Tim Dillon giving a more honest and holistic brief of the Israel-Palestine situation than some world leaders and politicians is a sad indictment of where we are as a society.

[@TheAsaSan]

I think it's quite the opposite. Example: It's been explained by various people, why the two-state-solution wasn't in reach in the last years. I used to like this show. But when it comes to history, politics and social problems more and more of the guests have no clue and at best scratch the surface of the issue. That said, Dillon made some good points.

[@oktayakbas4904]

He still calls the resistance "terrorism" though, israel has thousands of innocent palestinians in prison, that's why fighters from gaza took captives to exchange... Israel is the occupier and they created the country with terrorism, and they continued their terrorism in different ways every year. Nobody hears about their crimes because they pay the politicians and the media.

[@johndong7524]

You committed crimes, now time to pay, arab.

[@hectorgarcia3675]

People don't know the history of middle east and why US-UK defend Israel with no limitation. Israel is born from religious nationalist getting the support of UK after funding them during WW1.Yet UK promised to arab people an arab empire/state if they help to fight against ottoman empire. Finally, UK had never the will to fulfill their promise because thei considered that would have been crazy to let oil to "savage animals" (yes racist but still the same think today). Israeli are only people from europe and US (and north africa). They came from 1920 with UK help. Everything about religion is bullshit. it's just a question of settlers and colonized people. But in US and UK the zionist lobby is very strong because they are in very high position in strategic business (finance and media), and Administration. They don't care about UK and US, they work for only one country : Israel. Just look : they took weapons front Us militay stock to give it to Israel and bypass the Parliament authorization. I hope american and english open their eyes about how free Gaza is more than US and UK ...

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: - When Criminalized for calling a Govt/Nation Nazi - Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Living in Free World or Nazi World?

[@NonyaBusiness-is3fc]

"We invade them, we invite them" i love that phrase

[@npc2153]

Never invited. Funneled in the country through an illegal administration. They gotta import there voters to try and steal this next election. "We have the most extensive voter fortification in American history." -Brandon

[@eden3685]

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[@reverandscales]

I'm American and I don't wish to be judged by the present administration.

[@Jurisdoctorsosh]

To say they completely control the narrative is a conspiracy theory. We have students at Harvard and Yale and millions around the world being antisemitic and not one said a word on October 7th. So unless he is talking about cultural marxists and fascists and himself who has huge watching - is he censored? Why is he making himself like an underground secret society when he is the biggest content creator in the world? Is he being censored? You wana see censorship come to Iran bud. If you disagree please come debate us on atheist republic.

[@TheBINIBALL]

me either but that's what everyone does. All Israelis get labeled as right wing settler fascists, all Palestinians get labeled as fundamentalist Hamas fanatics, and we're labeled as willing enablers of 21st century Euro-American imperialism.

[@paulthompkins4150]

You wish to be judged by the Treasonous idiot that thought there was airplanes during the Revolutionary War? Ok...your judged.

[@JamesVestal-dz5qm]

Did you know the government can read your posts on youtube and judge you for them?

[@martinvanburen4578]

I am American and I don't wish to be judged by the previous administration.

[@LMHSim]

Waiting for Joe to be called antisemitic for allowing a rational view

[@paulsansonetti7410]

He was definitely carrying lots of water for Ashkenazis in the last episode of save our parks

[@SMALLAXE.]

Am not antisemitic I am and ISRAEL I don't hate Jews but I do hate what they are doing it's the same I am not islamaphobic but I do hate the terrorist acts carried out by some Muslims i dont we are scared to openly talk the truth as were constantly shut down by bad logic

[@happymood888]

Horse paste Joe

[@paulsansonetti7410]

@@happymood888 yeah except ivermectin has been prescribed to humans billions of times ,while harming less than 100 people,but let's not let facts get in the way of a leftoid narrative

[@knowone11111]

He's a self proclaimed, "idiot" & a poser comic, he's not meant to be taken seriously. If you do, you're dumber than he is.

[@SuperKripke]

For those not paying attention, "Open Ended Engagement" is what Tim calls a genocide in plain sight.

[@ghosthunter0950]

Funny how the so called genocide is lower in casualties than multiple conflicts that happened in the same region. just off the top of my head: Yemen 377,000 dead Syria 350,000 dead

[@gansitomarinela]

I thought I was paying attention, but that went right over my head 😢

[@coolbugfacts1234]

"engagement" is certainly a euphemism for leveling hospitals with JDAMs that have packed NICUs full of infants

[@artofsam]

Yeah thats because ALL wars are open ended genius, there is never some magical deadline or date its a fucking war you do know most wars have gone on for years even decades right? Ukraine is still in a war with Russia (a country with nuclear weapons) but we don't see protests on the street asking Russia to ceasefire, nearly 400,000 deaths in Yemen were due to conflicts with the Saudis where was the outcry for that? Over half a million deaths in Syria caused by Hezbollah where were the people on the streets asking for a ceasefire then? I wonder why all of a sudden everybody has got into such an uproar about a conflict in the middle east, oh yeah that's right it has nothing to do with people giving a fuck about muslims its because nobody gives a fuck about Jews. We all watched as we witness men, woman, children and babies be slaughtered in their own homes by a terrorist group who recorded it on go-pros, they called their own mothers to rejoice that they killed jews and they have said repeatedly they will do it again and again. What was our response to this? By praising them as freedom fighters and rewarding their brutality by asking Israel to share their homeland with those terrorists. I remember a time when decent people in the west would see terrorism for what it was and rather than ask for a ceasefire should instead demand for the return of those hostages who are still being held captive. If that was my son being held captive I would bomb every fucking building in Gaza until he was returned to safety, the audacity of the west to tell Jews who have had their families murdered that they should also share their homeland with those murderers honestly leaves me speechless.

[@MarkDenmark-nz2pz]

I am Palestinian who was born and lived in West Bank for 10 years I can say We don’t want to go to any Arabic countries. Also no one in the world has the right to tell us so. Why, because it’s my land, my father land and my grandfather land and my 10 grandfather land. It’s like I come to your home now and say God gave me this home, you gotta go to different country.

[@Tyler-vw9bh]

I agree, we have the same problem in Europe and the US/Canada with masses of people migrating to our land and claiming it as theirs and destroying our culture.

[@twim_c5723]

@@Tyler-vw9bhyou don’t have the same issue lol

[@seamustreanor270]

​@@Tyler-vw9bhthat's the most stupid thing iv read ever. This person is talking about is land been occupied and its people been oppressed. Then u come out with that puke. R u native American

[@sanyopoweraid1]

That's not even close to the same, bud. lol. who are you trying to kid@@Tyler-vw9bh

[@jormungandr4690]

Then fight for it why are you crying then and coming to EU to cry more ?

[@sbyurt1]

There has to be at least some mention of the fact that Netanyahu funded and backed Hamas against the much more moderate government Palestinians had before, which was something I fully believe he did precisely to be able to do this. Netanyahu is not going to retire in Israel, he’ll be in the U.S., swimming in the cash he made our arms dealers. He’s knowingly creating a mess that he will leave the Israeli people.

[@derrickjenkins2455]

"From Galilee to the Sea", the Greater Israel project.

[@illuminahde]

Same logic that says the U.S. deserved 911 because they funded the Mujahideen. Dumb dumb dumb

[@tstyleartistry]

Whaaaat!?!😮 Doesn't the US government do that as well? Fund a group to get rid of another group and then use that as a basis for war? What is with people and the divide and conquer madness?

[@killamindedmusic4220]

Yeah and the US funded Al Qaeda and ISIS. Enemy of my enemy

[@Unxpekted]

Hitleryahu*

[@f1aziz]

Most Gazans are people who were displaced from other parts of occupied territories by the Israelis. Majority of Gazans are really young people who have seen the brutality and suffocation of Israeli occupation from very close and personal quarters, and after decades of living under inhumane situation they saw the world forgetting about their plight to appease Israel. What else anyone was expecting?

[@Laneous14]

Literally no one can forget about their plight since liberal college kids like you tell us about it nonstop.

[@LinkinPark4694]

K but a couple thousand guys on motorcycles and pickup trucks thought they were gonna save 2 million people? cmon lol

[@f1aziz]

@Laneous14 Oh, I am sorry your life was inconvenienced. But they were getting forgotten by the governments and the media, two entities that matter when it comes to foreign policies.

[@f1aziz]

@@LinkinPark4694 Desperate time calls for desperate measures.

[@johndong7524]

@@f1aziz Perfect logic behind Israel's actions. Enjoy.

[@TheSeeker-B]

Real comedians are the philosophers of our time. They are so good in observing their surroundings ❤

[@adamc6954]

Overall a rational and decent portrayal but I gotta clarify two things: 1. Arab nations won't take refugees, in large part, 'cause they know Israel will never let them back in. It also wouldn't really work - if Egypt opened their border tomorrow, many Gazans would stay as it's their home, they're proud people and they don't want to be beggars elsewhere. 2. What is Tim worried about refugees for!? It normally goes like this: the US destabilizes yet another country on Europe's doorstep and they get the refugees. So yeah, good idea to stop bombing the sh*t outta people in the ME! 👏

[@hosoiarchives4858]

No, Arab nations won’t take Palestinians because they are using them as pawns against Israel

[@CaptainPlanut]

1 is wrong. Palestinians have started civil wars and/or terrorized every country they’ve gone to, that’s why Arab nations won’t take refugees.

[@syedshakaibanwar2698]

Gazans are also the descendants of Canaanites who have lived in the Levant for thousands of years, only the Palestinian Muslims have Arab admixture in their DNA, in many ways the Palestinians are more pure Jewish than the European Jews who occupied Palestine.

[@shumoon1]

6:16 This was the guest's worst take. Neighbouring Arab countries won't take in Palestinian refugees because that would be doing Israel's dirty work.

[@MrBlue-lr8ci]

It has nothing to do with making sure they don’t leave. The Arab states don’t want them because this population has a history of causing serious instability. Egyptian, Lebanese and Jordanian leaders know this, but they won’t say it. They don’t care about the Palestinian people. They don’t want their own county erupting into civil war.

[@clarenceboddicker1162]

I don’t care for joes stances on a lot of things but I have to give him credit that he is willing to have a lot of guests from different backgrounds on his show. This is one I’m going to listen to all of on Spotify.

[@julianbluefeather8491]

Has he lately though? Tim is a comedian and this is the most we’ve heard of that perspective. Where is Abby Martin? Rania Khalek? Etc

[@uksharif]

Joe has actively avoided having anyone who gives a Pro-Pal view Abby Martin, Norman Finkelstein, Gabor Mate, Bassam Youssef (Joe loves having standups, not him??), Mo Amer (again, comedian who lives in Texas and hangs out with Joe's mate Chappelle??), Rabbi Shapiro, Rabbi Beck, anyone!

[@ruthpicon2203]

@@julianbluefeather8491 Joe could also invite Miko Peled, an Israeli-Amer, who wrote the book, "The General's Son". His father was one of the founders of the state of Israel. Invite some of the former IDF soldiers who are now activists with the group, "Breaking the Silence". Americans need to hear what these Israelis have to say about what has been going on in Israel.

[@martyvlrjr2333]

Nobody cares abt your opinions and no one will listen you on any platform

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

Why is someone who obviously knows nothing about the conflict, and most importantly knows nothing about jihad, being interviewed on this topic? It's utterly ridiculous. Btw, Mr. Comic, do you also say that the 9/11 perpetrators became kamikaze because of their terrible conditions? Some were engineering students in Hamburg. Bin Laden is the son of a fabulously wealthy Saudi construction magnate. The Hamas leaders? "Three top leaders of Hamas alone have a staggering fortune of $11 billion, according to a report by New York Post. Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzuk and Khaleed Mashal have been maintaining their luxury lifestyle in Qatar."

[@AnthonyW-bp6tf]

Imagine what would happen if we all just refused to pay taxes and stop showing support to the idiots

[@presiyanyankov8869]

You would be in jail or dead

[@beatyouonce]

@@presiyanyankov8869 Key was "We All"

[@user-nb3py7vu2g]

​@@beatyouonceI'm down

[@ashkrikorian5753]

It’s a scenario where it’s all or nothing... numerical say 30% of the people... if 30% didn’t pay, that’s 100 million people. They can’t imprison them all. Good luck coordinating that though

[@user-tv7lk1cy4e]

​@@ashkrikorian5753 anyone that actually tried to organize that would get disappeared but if it just sort of became a viral meme?

[@erikjrn4080]

The Hamas attack on October 7th was barbaric, and deserving of condemnation. Nothing happens in a vacuum, though. In this case, the context includes decades of intermittent bombing campaign against Gaza, many of which have killed more people than the October 7th attack, and all of which have had a worse ration of civilian to combatant casualties. It includes Israel taking thousands of Palestinian prisoners, many of them minors, and holding them for years and decades, without trial. It includes Israeli soldiers and settlers raping and murdering Palestinian civilians. We should curse Hamas, but, for every time we curse Hamas, we should curse Israel 17 times, as Israel on average has killed 17 Palestinians for every Israeli that's killed. I'm always amused when Americans suggest "just move" as a solution to problems. That may work in the US, where most people have shallow roots in the land, but it doesn't work in Europe, Asia, or Africa. The Palestinians are 50% descended from the original Canaanites. They and their ancestors have lived in that land for more than 4,500 years, continuously. When the ancestors of modern Jews fled, the ancestors of the Palestinians stayed (including, among others, the Pharisees). The Palestinians aren't going anywhere. They're certainly not going to give up the land to people with "only" 2,500 years in the land, who haven't been there for the last 2,000 years. Btw, Jews and Palestinians have about the same degree of ancestry in Israel/Palestine; the difference is that the non-Canaanite DNA of Jews is mostly European, while the non-Canaanite DNA of Palestinians is mostly from neighboring countries. If a two state solution isn't an option, then the only road to peace is a Palestinian state, preferably one where Jews will be welcome; currently, Israeli Jews aren't making a good case for welcoming them.

[@ayeshak6822]

This.

[@spiderqueen601]

Ummm… are you unaware that Palestinians have full equal rights to Jews and everyone else in Israel? Jews aren’t allowed in Gaza and Jewish civilians aren’t allowed in the West Bank. Get it? The Palestinians who have rejected the two state solution have also refused to live as equal citizens in Israel - and thus live in Gaza or the West Bank. They are WELCOME in Israel but they REJECT living alongside Jews. There’s no possibility of a one-state ruled by Palestine where Jews are safe. We already HAVE a state where Jews and Arabs live peacefully and that’s literally Israel today. Get it? Those who don’t hate Jews live peacefully along side them in Israel. There’s Palestinians in every level or government in Israel - including the Supreme Court. Joe’s guest here is super confused. Gazans are not desperately bombing because of what Israel does to them - but because of what Hamas does to them.

[@agrupnia]

@@spiderqueen601 What a bunch of bull. There are tons of Jewish settlers in the West Bank. Palestinians aren't rejecting living alongside Jews, they are segregated by force. Israel won't even let the Palestinians marry Jews.

[@CCrinklebottom]

Gaza and the West Bank have been fully controlled by Palestinian authorities since 2006. Womp Womp

[@Ahasveros7674]

⁠​⁠@@spiderqueen601 Over 700.000 Israëli settlers live in the West Bank, they are armed to the teeth and harass Palestinians on a daily basis. As far as equal rights, Palestinians aren’t allowed to use certain roads. Not even if their house is on that road, they must leave the house by the roof. You should educate yourself before talking nonsense!

[@randomjive7310]

7 minutes in, and neither of these guys have said the word "occupation" once.

[@MrMarwan48]

great point.

[@BU11D0G4LIFE]

Tim evaded saying it, by describing it when mentioning the ‘liveability’ of Gaza @ 2:45

[@verynice5574]

That's good or bad depending on the goal of the conversation. If the goal is to speak to people who already agree with you than calling it an occupation is great. Everyone can rub their nipples and moan over how right they are. If your goal is to persuade the other side than it's probably not great.

[@BU11D0G4LIFE]

@@verynice5574 It’s a fact that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied though. It’s not opinions. Calling it occupation will get everyone who disagrees, to actually research it themselves and find the evidence.

[@evanroberts2771]

@@BU11D0G4LIFE But what they actually look for is confirmation bias. Sites that confirm what they already believe.

[@mojave7025]

As he said at the 5:28 mark, there is no perfect, there are only trade offs :)

[@petes9524]

And Blinken says," the charges by South Africa are baseless" and Germany agrees. I'd say the West is beyond repair...

[@Victor_James68]

Germany government really fk up. For more than 100 years always on wrong side of history.

[@mysteryhombre81]

It is a very grim, reality and horrible to think about people in this way, but killing 1% of a growing population with one of biggest % population increase pyramids in the world does not constitute Genocide. Instances of war crimes, human rights negligence, colateral damage, even collection punishment. All this may be true, but Genocide it is not...

[@ShovelShovel]

ya South Africa a paragon of morality and virtue. 😂

[@petes9524]

@@ShovelShovel anything but, but your bothsiderism is just a deflection. The issue on the table is Netanyahu's immorality. There are leaders in RSA being investigated and charged for theirs. Try to sharpen your critical analytical skills potential.

[@Carlos-fc4xz]

They are pretty baseless due to them not having any basis for claiming it's a genocide.

[@MrRiz157]

Joe Rogan has been observed to adjust his opinions based on the guest he is interviewing.

[@tubydangle2059]

That’s what a good interviewer does… it opens up the guest- it’s not a debate podcast

[@MrRiz157]

@tubydangle2059 you don't have to shift your view to be a good host.

[@tubydangle2059]

@@MrRiz157 which part do you think he switched his view?

[@jasonhutchinson8060]

what? was he not fawning over Israel enough? call the ADL.

[@dranreb1118]

@@MrRiz157 I'm sure Joe Rogan would fail without advice from MrRiz157

[@bromeotorres6964]

Love how these experts are giving pointers to the IDF on how to deal with terrorists

[@bbearsmama]

Thank you, Tim. It’s nice to hear someone addressing some of the roots of this issue. It’s weird that we feel like we can’t talk about the human toll on both sides of this issue.

[@robsmith1288]

25,000 innocent Palestinian's dead , 1400 innocent Israeli's dead

[@Stephen-lt1tp]

The roots was England gave both of them the land to share, but the Arabs started all three wars, losing more land and people each time they’re not very smart. Should the Native Americans start a war here? It’s the exact same analogy. Get over it.

[@Kriptickhaos]

Youre an npc if you dont see the problem in society only allowing comedians to talk about this shit under the guise of a joke.

[@haroldcruz8550]

Joe is really testing his luck on this one doesn't he but kudos to him cause there aren't many popular figures that has the balls to do it.

[@Stephen-lt1tp]

@@haroldcruz8550 how ballsy was it he didn’t really give an opinion on for either side. But anybody who can’t condemn Hamas has serious men*tal issues. I.e. biased Mu*slims, most women and be*ta males.

[@Sephirothmmd]

Joe please be the man we know you to be and invite someone with actual knowledge from the area

[@spoofyman]

no one asked

[@booooo-urns]

Have Abby Martin back asap

[@johndong7524]

@@spoofyman then be quiet

[@KiwiGirlnCo]

Miko Peled

[@to3ta64]

Yeah, bring on MIKO PELED!!

[@brianc4594]

Some kids in Gaza are dying from a whole new phenomenon, cardiac arrest due to a deadly combination, weeks of sleeplessness, malnutrition and high adrenaline from fear, their hearts just stop. And the guys in this video can still have a little shrug and a chuckle.

[@deeznutz8320]

Oh no how dare they, there is fucking war everywhere the war in Gaza is a sleepover compaired to the war in Ukraine

[@steve7236]

Tim nails the definition of terrorism and what Hamas did. His description of Israel's response also fits the definition of terrorism.

[@meatrealwishes]

The Israeli govnt is far right just like hamas. Same is true for IDF now. Israelis themselves said it is flooded with extremists now.

[@MP-ky3hc]

The difference is Hamas admits they're terrorists. They're like "Yeah...you guys terrorize us in our lives, so we're going to terrorize you back." Israel is the one lying about what they're doing like it's not terrorism.

[@ultimate8550]

Apologist for Hamas detected.

[@missbee1427]

​@@ultimate8550pro genocide war mongerer detected

[@Freemouse159]

​@@ultimate8550Someone who's not been watching the world court... Detected.

[@davidbulger3716]

Resources under Gaza? I heard natural gas.

[@amanda1500]

Me too. And they want to build a canal.

[@BOSNIAN868]

Off the coast.

[@TheAntistokes]

Nobody who’s logical and informed says that criticism of Israel is necessarily anti-Semitic. However… the major Israeli protests against Netanyahu have nothing to do with the Israel-Palestine issue, that’s an internal debate about judicial reforms. In terms of making a strong response to the Hamas attack, Israel is in lock-step about that. Yes, there is vigorous debate about the details even within Israel, and there is even an entire group of experts on the humanitarian aspect of military operations who are involved in all Israeli military strategic decisions. There can be vigorous debate about this or that tactic or strategy as well from outside Israel, just as any sovereign nation can criticize or try to influence any other. Where it becomes problematic are when the criticisms of Israel are either (or both) unfairly and inaccurately characterized for emotional impact (I.e. “genocide” or “apartheid”… both of which are a complete joke if you know anything about either), or when the criticism is more vociferous and strong against Israel (even for fair criticisms) when there was not a peep on the streets of the west about even more extreme actions by other countries with even more deaths or with actual ethnic cleansing (Syria, Yemen, Rwanda, China etc etc). Only Israel gets the street protests when the entire 75 years of the Israel-Arab conflict from 1948 until today, including fighting between mechanized armies, has only taken around 50,000- 70,000 lives. Compare that with the 500,000 killed in Syria just in the past 10 years or the 1 million people killed in Rwanda in a 100 day period. Not. A. Peep. But Israel defends itself (against a group with a very clearly and unequivocally expressed genocidal intent) and the world goes insane. Why???????????????????????? There is a reason why attacking from civilian homes, hospitals, schools, and civilian infrastructure facilities are war crimes. The reason is **not** that “it’s not fair because your enemy can’t retaliate.” The reasons it’s a war crime is that your enemy *will* retaliate and those civilian structures, homes, and infrastructure will be destroyed. Case in point.

[@AsadUllah-wh9ob]

Never came across someone speaking so deeply and understanding the core value.

[@guyeshel9316]

He doesn't understand it. He's seeing things in his own logical way, which is not too bad, but still wrong. It's a western view on things he knows nothing about. He thinks Palestinians commit suicide bombings because they are desperate - they commit suicide bombings because they want to be martyrs regardless of their situation. This is what they are being educated their own life

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

How many times was the 2 state solution rejected ?

[@joojtorrents]

Exactly, always rejected by the Palestinians. No room for compromise, all or nothing. And when there is a state it turns into a terror state (eg Gaza). That’s why a 2 state solution is hopeless

[@kRaZyXmAn]

Joe Rogan really needs to have Abby Martin on again, rather than referring to Dave Smith and other genocide supporters

[@Carlos-fc4xz]

clueless

[@charlene9638]

Why did they attack??? 75 years

[@Blackbirdinthedeadofnight]

Why did they attack before that?

[@isagive]

they attacked every 2 years numnum... btw up until 1967 gaza was controlled by egypt - in short just shut up.

[@charlene9638]

@@isagive GENOCIDER 💋

[@charlene9638]

@@isagive you guys have lost you’ll never come back from this go hide in your tunnels in Brooklyn

[@roylahmy]

How attacking was going to help? What they thought they will reclaim Israel?

[@keion_arknights]

Based Tim Dillon referencing Steve Sailer.

[@aaroncampos3798]

You want to know why this situation is so messy in the first place? Imagine a whole region of your country, with you in it, being forced to relocate for some migrants from Africa to move in? That means your home is no longer yours, you have to start over basically. These are random people just playing with peoples lives like you’re a pawn in a chessboard. That’s why it’s the way that it is.

[@KillahManjaro]

So now you know how the indigenous people feel? Man these colonizers are pure jokes.

[@joewick5299]

Dude, you ever study history of civilization? Everybody was indigenous at one point and was chased around the planet just like north American natives were chased from south America so they hid in the frozen waste land. The indigenous people I know LOVE and I mean love "colonizer" technology. Who do think created the computer you are using right now?@@KillahManjaro

[@MikeStrup-rq4mn]

Must be nice to have all those Casinos and tax free cigarettes bruh ​@KillahManjaro

[@KillahManjaro]

@@joewick5299 I hope your people feel the same way in 2100 when Africa will be over 4 Billion people and we start taking over Europe and North America. I mean we already have over 100 Million in Brazil today not to mention the Caribbean USA and other South American countries. Abd you know the African gene is dominant while others are recessive.

[@Carlos-fc4xz]

It's messy because Arabs didn't want any peace until they realized they will never beat Israel in a war and destroy it. Maybe it would have been better if Arabs tried diplomacy before going to wars.

[@doomguy6913]

Conflicts happening all over the world simultaneously have a track record of ending very poorly.

[@Strawn149]

I actually think Israel has far exceeded what in the first two years the US did in Iraq

[@DanielinAction]

We've only started. This Tim guy most likely don't know shit about arabs in the middle east, and for sure don't know shit about Islam. He forgot Israel trying to live with them for 60 years now. Its not only hamas. Why is egypt, syria, lebanon, iraq, jordan and turkey all on a down spiral? Islam. The culture is what it is. Its a throwback 850 years back. You can actually see how poeple used to live 1000 years back, like barbarians.

[@99Michael]

Israel has a sense of direction, and America plays a chess game and can afford to lose. Israel only has to lose once, and it is over for them.

[@jeremym1288]

Israel has a right to self defense, you anti-semite.

[@Robert-tm2bt]

​@@99Michael not even close

[@hamishgaffaney5323]

​@@99Michaelcongrats you have made the Americans look like angels in the middle east

[@nrm55]

There's alot more to illegal mass migration than rich people benefitting from cheap labor. That's ridiculous.

[@deeznutz8320]

Its a reason but not the reason, they also need soldiers for Israels wars Fox News is allready talking about that

[@jacktinney]

it's votes

[@soulzy3596]

I promise you whatever the reasons NONE are in good faith .

[@nrm55]

@@soulzy3596 And forced multiculturalism.

[@Muskiehunter4841]

It is hard to listen to Tim Dillon. To Joe's credit, he will talk with anybody about anything. THAT is valuable.

[@sampwaro]

I love how Joe Rogan try to have a neutral view on each subject he treats

[@seanhorrigan677]

It's those exact scenarios that are why I beleive in gun rights. Guns give you the right to say no and back it up with force. Yes, some people are irresponsible and wreckless, the same could be said for knives and fire, which as also deadly. I'm not saying we're constantly gonna need them, but buildings have fire extinguishers and houses have guns, different problems require different solutions.

[@user-ej4xu7wv2z]

if the people from Palestine both Jews and muslims, had guns 100 years ago, we won't be talking on this ocuppation..

[@morenitomoreno1282]

It’s amazing how gun fetishists never ask themselves where do all the guns on the black market come from (clue: not Mexico, not big bad China and definitely not some secret illegal gun factories)

[@johntowers1213]

except no.. that like insisting on needing to keep a tiger in your house to protect you against Goverment Lions ..I mean sure thats one way to do it...but its going to result in a lot more people being eaten by tigers than Lions when all said and done.. you are way less competent and responsible than you believe your self to be and are surrounded by hordes of other people way dumber than your self.. and now they all have Tigers to fight off Lions...what could possibly go wrong?

[@ericantone8709]

so what is your point related to this issue?

[@GearZNet]

​@@johntowers1213 If they didn't have tigers the government would have sicked their lions on them decades ago. Sometimes the only solution is to be ready to die after a threshold is passed. The 2nd amendment is the not so secret hidden ace up American citizens sleeves and it's serving it's role well enough.

[@aaronkeuper5640]

A lot of sense here, except the failure to notice an attempt at ethnic cleansing.

[@corinajanta4836]

Exactly

[@roylahmy]

I would say as an Israeli, many Israelis don't support this, they just want hamas gone. But some far right lunatics in our government think it's now time to settle gaza because of their dumb beliefs in 'greater Israel'

[@TarekElsakka]

Thank you, Tim Dillon, we salute you for speaking facts and not following an agenda.

[@Thawhid]

Absolutely. Comedians being more logical and rational than politicians with power

[@OhAwe]

Bruh Tim Duncan was in the NBA. This is Tim Dillon.

[@TarekElsakka]

@@OhAwe lmao good spot hahaha

[@horseracinghq]

This is a crazy situation. Will never end unfortunately.

[@Fthesystem69]

Oh but your wrong, everything eventually ends, and this is no different.

[@ruthpicon2203]

This is not that complicated. Listen to YT videos on this issue from Miko Peled, an Israeli/American whose father was one of the founders of the state of Israel or the historian Norman Finkelstein. It would also help if the US stopped funding and supporting Israel. US has been giving Israel Billions every year for decades. Our government should be using that money to help americans.

[@BussinandDiscussin]

You so obviously want Israel to become weak and then conquered, your words are transparent.@@ruthpicon2203

[@tmc8195]

Appreciate you guys speaking up on this issue it is frightening to see how many people show zero nuance with this issue and blindly support genocide

[@magoo2793]

lol what genocide ??? go learn what that word actually means

[@owenh.2265]

It's not a genocide, it's a war. There is a difference. To illustrate the difference, this video shows both war and genocide (21:32): kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZzMdIp_bcx4abc

[@jsherm007]

@@magoo2793people throw words around today without actually using the words correctly. Same way racist and nazi are used

[@ChatGPT1111]

Do you include in your 'nuance' that Hamas places their arsenals, troops and hostages below schools, mosques and hospitals? Do you include in your 'nuance' that Hamas uses kids to hide behind, stages bodies, and has been made a proxy by Iran that it is willing to sacrifice purely for PR value? Giving up Gaza for PR value alone is something Iran planned from the beginning.

[@naruroGCS]

@@LilleyADaniel I remember the story of a brazilean christian priest in gaza, every day he got death threats, stones, things stolen, pretty calm and peaceful people there.

[@cfaxman]

Holy cow, the last sentence in the clip single handedly addressed the root of our immigration problem! If only we could talk about that too.

[@sdfsdf7870]

Nailed it. In this issue is magically excluded from discourse - left AND right.

[@redcast104]

ok you didnt bomb them but you've been economically sheltered by profits extracted from their sweatshops and plantations. and if you're talking about south america, we did things like support right wing paramilitary groups largely to maintain the flow of these profits. it's like if your dad is a mob boss. you're not going around extorting local shopowners and occasionally killing a guy, but he buys you first class tickets on the plane, expensive food and clothes. much as you might like to be you're not some disinterested observer, in this hypothetical or in global inequality. more importantly it's not about moral responsibility as much as it is about selflessness vs selflishness. if you value the wellbeing of a refugee as much as your own, you shouldn't be complaining that they're sleeping on your soccer field or that there are too many scary blacks now. someone's discomfort towards refugees, even if it's somewhat justified, does not outweigh a literal life or death situation

[@GEOHHADDAD]

Rogan never says “Israel is beyond repair.”

[@mewing9619]

It is

[@jasperketone]

I love when Joe does improv with his comedian guests

[@damianzeate977]

i love how smart AND funny tim is, such a great combo.

[@tapsirusaccoh3286]

Tim and Joe are the real deal

[@MelBee128]

People who have an "all or nothing" mentality live their lives in a perpetual state of disappointment. This applies to both sides of the conflict. Compromise is the only logical solution.

[@williamboyle3268]

Whatever reasons there are on both sides, they have decided one must go... And we know who wins this, let it open eyes to the world you live in...

[@alanprobsten2858]

Can’t wait to see Tim in February. It’ll be cold in East St. Louis Tim, better have that Raccoon jacket handy.

[@dcrea9416]

He’d def have it robbed from him in E St Louis

[@ufa621]

Israel says jump america says how high daddy

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

Its the other way around. America bought the Israeli government in the 1980s

[@barneybrudenell8838]

Who knew Tim Dillon had such a big heart ? What an erudite and nuanced man ❤.

[@seanohare5488]

Just read Hamas charter nothing changed in years and they unfortunately will never change

[@naeemsaley2197]

Which one . The original, or Israel’s version 😂😂😂😂 watch Netanyahu speak about a Malek

[@sharwama992]

@@naeemsaley2197stop diverting the topic of discussion.

[@naeemsaley2197]

@@sharwama992 which discussion.

[@thetruth-ow8nh]

So...... I guess the 65 plus years before Oct. 7 doesn't count

[@sharwama992]

at midnight on 14 May 1948; the Israeli Declaration of Independence had been issued earlier that day, and a military coalition of Arab states entered the territory of Mandatory Palestine in the morning of 15 May. You start the conflict and cry foul 😂

[@slightlyamusedyoutuber3517]

​@@sharwama992Where wad Israel established? That is right, on bulldozed Palestinian villages after expelling the people who lived there for generations. Who is gonna believe your lies, Zionist? 😂😂

[@Carlos-fc4xz]

So the 100+ years of Arab violence towards Jews doesn't count?

[@ON3475]

@@sharwama992 Deir Yassin massacre happened on April 9, 1948, in addition to many other attacks on other villages and cities both before and after. Qisarya was attacked and depopulated in February. Approximately 30 villages were attacked and depopulated by the end of March. Haifa was depopulated in late April. Jaffa was depopulated on May 14th.

[@ON3475]

@@sharwama992 right off the United Nations website: On the termination of the Mandate, Jewish forces moved to occupy further territory beyond the boundaries specified by the Partition resolution. Irregular units from neighbouring Arab States had already entered Palestine in the final weeks of the Mandate, and now regular forces from these countries crossed into Palestine. The Arab League informed the United Nations Secretary-General by cable of the reasons for the Arab action. After tracing the history of the Palestine question and the efforts of the Arab States to help the Palestinian Arabs to secure their rightful independence, the cable stated: “Now that the Mandate over Palestine has come to an end, leaving no legally constituted authority behind in order to administer law and order in the country and afford the necessary and adequate protection to life and property, the Arab States declare as follows: “(a) The right to set up a Government in Palestine pertains to its inhabitants under the principles of self-determination recognized by the Covenant of the League of Nations as well as the United Nations Charter; “(b) Peace and order have been completely upset in Palestine, and, in consequence of Jewish aggression, approximately over a quarter of a million of the Arab population have been compelled to leave their homes and emigrate to neighbouring Arab countries. The prevailing events in Palestine exposed the concealed aggressive intentions of the Zionists and their imperialistic motives … “(c) The Mandatory has already announced that on the termination of the Mandate it will no longer be responsible for the maintenance of law and order in Palestine … This leaves Palestine absolutely without any administrative authority … “… “(e) … The recent disturbances in Palestine further constitute a serious and direct threat to peace and security within the territories of the Arab States themselves. For these reasons, and considering that the security of Palestine is a sacred trust for them, and out of anxiousness to check the further deterioration of the prevailing conditions and to prevent the spread of disorder and lawlessness into the neighbouring Arab lands, and in order to fill the vacuum created by the termination of the Mandate and the failure to replace it by any legally constituted authority, the Arab Governments find themselves compelled to intervene for the sole purpose of restoring peace and security and establishing law and order in Palestine. “The Arab States recognize that the independence and sovereignty of Palestine which was so far subject to the British Mandate has now, with the termination of the Mandate, become established in fact, and maintain that the lawful inhabitants of Palestine are alone competent and entitled to set up an administration in Palestine for the discharge of all governmental functions without any external interference. As soon as that stage is reached for the intervention of the Arab States, which is confined to the restoration of peace and establishment of law and order, shall be put an end to, and the sovereign State of Palestine will be competent in co-operation with the other States members of the Arab League, to take every step for the promotion of the welfare and security of its peoples and territory …”

[@dremunoz2600]

So glad Tim Dillon called it for what it is at the end..." economic migration" so people here can benefit from cheap labor.

[@fuadarif4056]

Not just mosque but also churches

[@bn2247]

"open ended engagement" yea ok lol, since when is tim not calling things what they are?

[@Disgruntled1986]

Joe needs to invite Bassem to his show

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

Not really.

[@Disgruntled1986]

@@snakey934Snakeybakey because?

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

@@Disgruntled1986 because Joe has had more than enough anti-israel people on his show, and Bassem, while being very charming and well-polished, is a liar. And I say this as an anti-zionist. The Jews of Egypt were also anti-zionist until the Egyptian government blamed them for their defeat at the hands of Israel, stole their property and subject to show trials and torture and essentially forced them into the hands of the Zionist. Bassem lies about this, and then continues to talk about how oppressed the Arabs of Israel are, meanwhile Egypt's Jewish community has been ethnically cleansed.

[@aviwegwayi6860]

Wow so much sense is being spoken here....✨

[@allenherrera3981]

Set up a dave and busters LMFAO ....

[@jeffkowalski3107]

There goes Joe licking both ends of the stick again

[@freedomfreedom6544]

He’s a Soros asset for sure

[@Promqueen23]

@@freedomfreedom6544 Another flaming conspiracy theorist, LOL

[@jasonhutchinson8060]

I suggest you call the ADL. Joe was not fawning over Israel enough. Surely he is considered an anti-semite and jew hater by now.

[@MoMAPS5]

bro is really comparing Chicago to Gaza like an idiot

[@wattax2]

It's not all desperation. Young men give their lives willingly in war all the time if they believe it's right

[@jungliatpil9124]

Jordan and Egypt already have millions of Palestinian refugees. One in five people living in Jordan is Palestinian - more than 2.3 million registered refugees in all.

[@herbthompson8937]

Gaza needs to be a parking lot.....

[@sdfsdf7870]

Awesome, thank you!

[@advance512]

The core issue in the conflict is what you see in the comments here too. The Palestinians do not choose peace, they want the destruction of Israel more than peace, they are not willing to compromise on Israel's destruction. So they choose war. For the conflict to end, the Palestinians need to grow the hell up.

[@isagive]

people finding it hard to understand that falsetinians are of a different culture.

[@advance512]

@@isagive exactly.

[@cius2112]

Tim is carefully making sure he doesnt say anything that could have him face first in Obama's pond.

[@Mr50403]

Thats not Obama that is David Duke.

[@natz8274]

what about the innocent fathers, grandfathers uncles and brothers being killed

[@galitb6963]

They aren’t innocent

[@natz8274]

@@galitb6963 lol have you met them. Wo is feeding you such lies

[@paulpaustovanu8816]

Certain areas are dangerous because there are dangerous people.

[@eastafrika728]

Entitlement and imperialism allows people to disregard human life for ego. To be civilized you have to be civil.

[@josue24]

Tim is at least close to the right take

[@calvinklein5223]

Calling a genocide an engagement!! Not sure how that makes any sense

[@willpine7343]

They did that moment both times

[@booooo-urns]

Glad Joe seems to be on the right side of this issue, albeit walking on eggshells

[@pgodna672]

Eggshells is right. Tim Dillon struggled because he’s not allowed to say “genocide” and “occupation”. He tried to hard to avoid saying those words which makes me believe before the podcast began they were instructed there were certain words and phrases you cannot use on the broadcast.

[@deeznutz8320]

​@@pgodna672No you goofball its just to tip toe around the issue, if they said these words without any nuance the media would rip it out of context Listen to the message

[@Flametree1492]

Thank you for your speaker for mentioning, what motivated a people to start a war they and the world knows they can't win? Imagine the desperation!? Why would a 18-20 y/o in the prime of their life "blow themselves up"? Why? no one has trueliy answered that question.

[@leeham6230]

They do it because they are radicalized from a young age. Are you stupid?

[@KristiinaBerg]

Brain washed.

[@travelmusic1113]

It’s called Islam and Jihad

[@shtroizn]

When you are indoctrinated from practically age zero to seek "Martyrdom" and taught that Jews are dogs and pigs and you will get 72 virgins if you kill them and get killed... have you truly been living under a rock?! What, the Palestinians are the only people under so-called occupation? How come Tibetans didn't use suicide bombers against their Chinese overlords (who killed over 1.2 million Tibetans)?

[@ON3475]

@@KristiinaBerg "Israel far-right minister enters Al-Aqsa in ‘provocation’" - January 3rd, 2023 - Al Jazeera "Israeli actions on Temple Mount unacceptable, US tells UNSC" - January 5th, 2023 - The Jerusalem Post I'll keep the headlines short on that one, but this is the guy (THE ISRAELI NATIONAL SECURITY MINISTER) that is part of the Extreme Far-Right Kahanist Group. This is the guy that supports, and is part of the same group of all of these extremist Israeli Settlers that have chanted "Death to Arabs" while attacking and killing people in the West Bank, and in East Jerusalem. This is the guy that decides to walk into Al-Aqsa Mosque while provoking Hamas, and continues to support all of the chanting, attacking, and killing by extreme far-right settlers for ALL of 2022, and ALL of 2023. Why is this so important? Well, let's take a look at his Wikipedia page: "Itamar Ben-Gvir (Hebrew: אִיתָמָר בֶּן גְּבִיר; born 6 May 1976) is an Israeli lawyer and far-right politician who has served as the Minister of National Security since 2022. He is a member of the Knesset and leader of Otzma Yehudit. Ben-Gvir, a settler in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, has faced charges of hate speech against Arabs and was known to have a portrait in his living room of Israeli-American mass murderer and Jewish extremist Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in Hebron, in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre. He removed the portrait after he entered politics. He was also previously convicted of supporting a terrorist group known as Kach, which espoused Kahanism, an extremist religious Zionist ideology. Under his leadership, the Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power), a party which espouses Kahanism and anti-Arabism, won six seats in the 2022 Israeli legislative election, and is represented in what has been called the most right-wing and hardline government in Israel's history. He has called for the expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel who are not loyal to Israel. Ben Gvir is "widely known for his openly racist, anti-Arab views and activities". Israeli sociologist Eva Illouz has said Ben Gvir represents "Jewish fascism". Ben Gvir had been long accused of being a provocateur, having previously led several visits to the Temple Mount as activist and member of Knesset, contentious marches through Jerusalem's Old City Muslim Quarter, and set up an office in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood which witnessed several evictions of Palestinians. On 3 January 2023, he visited the Temple Mount where the al-Aqsa Mosque is located, spurring an international wave of criticism that labelled his visit purposely provocative. As a lawyer, he is known for defending Jewish terrorists on trial in Israel." Okay, so now that we've gotten that out of the way... Who is the Kahanist group? Oh, LITERALLY, AN ORGANIZATION LISTED ON THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT'S FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS LIST... that is up until 2022, when Ben-Gvir got elected as Israel's National Security Minister... HOLD ON, THERE'S MORE! THE KAHANIST EXTREMIST GROUP WAS DECLARED A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION BY THE US STATE DEPARTMENT ON OCTOBER 7TH, 1997. Wait a minute... October 7th, 1997?! Why does that date sound familiar? So, Ben Gvir, the Israel National Security Minister and member of the Kahanist Group, decides to provoke Hamas by entering the Al-Aqsa mosque that Muslims and Palestinians have literally been struggling to do since 2021 due to settler violence, military and police brutality, and NEWLY IMPOSED ISRAELI LEGAL RESTRICTIONS, while stating “Our government will not surrender to the threats of Hamas.” And further stating, “is open to all and if Hamas thinks that if it threatens me it will deter me, they should understand that times have changed,” and acting against the advice of pretty much all of Israeli leadership. This happened in January. Then, you have massive amounts of settler violence and killings and forcible evictions against Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank all throughout the year, in addition to settlers chanting "Death to Arabs" all year, and all of 2022, and 2021. THEN, you throw in the largest Israeli Military attack on the West bank in nearly 20 years, more illegal settlement expansion into the West Bank (on a large scale during and slightly before the military attack), and 237 Palestinians killed by the IDF ALL BEFORE OCTOBER 7TH of 2023, AND ALL OF THAT WAS JUST 2023 ALONE. We didn't even go into a full break down of 2022, and 2021.

[@grantpenton1850]

Several Canadian provincial administrations have accepted the Hillel/B'nai Brith definition of anti-Semitism which includes criticism of the government of Israel. Thus at some point most Canadian citizens are guilty of hate crimes... this madness must cease!

[@philbland]

Get Norman Finklestein on

[@deeznutz8320]

Ah yes the guy who understood when a office of cartoonists got gun downed for a drawing Yeah bring that weirdo in

[@JoeSparro]

Old pirates, yes, they rob I Sold I to the merchant ships Minutes after they took I From the bottomless pit But my hand was made strong By the hand of the Almighty We forward in this generation Triumphantly

[@isagive]

Did you hear "road to zion" ? hes son has an awesome version ;)

[@mznxbcv12345]

On the 7th, there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 769 names on the Haaretz dataset, 462 were military personnel, including 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. Out of the 1148 total names, 403 were military personnel, 59 belonged to the police, and 668 were civilians. This means that the collateral damage on the 7th was lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 6:1. The ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1.6:1, with 462 military personnel out of 1148 total. When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is 162:1 and not "just" 6:1 based on analyzing UN OHC data from 2008 to 2022. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.6:1, a hundred times lower. The reported (not all have their ages listed) ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel

[@mznxbcv12345]

There is a more detailed report made 2 months ago when it was reported to had been 1460 and not just 1148 as it is now of 7th titled: "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"

[@ranro7371]

-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by Eichmann in WW2 he literally said “we have to be savages in a chapter that will never be written when treating human animals”, even their calculating of calories was also don " In the Tantura (2022) documentary there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. In another documentary '1948: Creation & Catastrophe', a survivor speaks about women getting violated infront of their family members by iTf. She was a child at the time and still wept as an elderly woman. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do. The journalist Gideon Levy once was at a checkpoint in the west bank where the soldiers there force the ambulance to wait an hour before someone clears it through as part of a routine while they watch Tv. The journalist waited with the ambulance then got angry, confronted the iTf soldier asking him what if it were your mother in the ambulance, the soldier made the same face and pointed his weapon at him. This was many years ago, it had only gotten worse since. They simply dont see them as human, by ANY means want the world to see the same.

[@fe7kh]

@@ranro7371thanks for that info. They are demonic. The world needs to purge this evil.

[@ahmeda.3198]

@@ranro7371They are really sadistic. It’s like a feedback loop, they massacre the people then have to be paranoid the people will want revenge, and so they then brutalize them as a preventive measure against seeking revenge.

[@ahmeda.3198]

I think what also happened on that day is after the fence was breached, any armed group or criminal gang could have gotten out and done things to people. People will go bezerk if you try and ask what really happened.

[@catnapgee5357]

1:34 Yes, leave out innocent men, they don't count..

[@lotcam4046]

01:14 sympathy for thieves Means hatred for the victims

[@ZACMAKLEA]

Thank you for always being respectful to all Non-Cult Religions!

[@dalidina5]

Not taking your parents in is actually crazy

[@mhxxd4]

What are you talking about?

[@dalidina5]

@@mhxxd4 the statement he made in conversation

[@mhxxd4]

@@dalidina5 taking your parents in from what? I know my parents aint staying at my place for any reason, if it comes to that they better call another family member or some friends. I wish them good luck tho

[@Madonnalitta1]

Many "adults" are just large children. Selfish to a fault.

[@billyjean5934]

​@@mhxxd4I wish them well, also!

[@WorshipinIdols]

This conflict becomes very simply when you know the history of Arab and Muslim barbarism.

[@sarosaroyan5042]

Preach

[@noraelhalawani1294]

It's NOT the emotional respons, it's the NARCISSISTIC RAGE that comes after the victim has stood up for themselves.

[@matthewmorris6378]

You break it, you buy it. We have to stop shifting responsibility outside of our sphere of influence. We may have to be individually discomforted in order to fix these issues, as is usually the case with over-extension.

[@johnl405]

Wow he really gets it. I'm talking Tim Dillon not Joe Rogan.

[@samuelallen8945]

It's a pretty simple situation. It's David vs Goliath (supported by Leviathan) and innocent children are dying in order to "fight terrorism"

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

You have to deal with what's right in front of you first

[@DontwatchB]

What does that mean?

[@QuietVillain]

One thing at time

[@ThomasLindellart]

Hamas is not just terrorist organization. It's a government in Gaza. Palestinians or whatever they call themselves chose terror as their system.

[@joecasey7415]

If Hamas it a terrorist org, what is Israel's govt?

[@joblo6394]

Palestinians have suffered so many October 7ths prior to October 7th.

[@user-mx6pr7dt9d]

Kali is here and let's not forget about Amalek

[@mop9i40k]

Tim allmost teared his ass finding words in order to not get whacked by Mossad

[@coolbuddydude1]

I love the humanity and understanding expressed in this podcast.