Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety

[@MartinJohnZ]

"The creators of this technology do not let their kids have it..." If that's not a red flag then what color is it?

[@arthurabad2862]

Burgundy

[@eddiecorado1635]

Black

[@BrandonTheGreatest]

For a lot of people red flags are green

[@MichaelVII_]

orang

[@matthewjones8798]

Burberry.

[@codinginflow]

As a 90s kid who got bullied in school, when Facebook started to become popular, I thought to myself "holy shit, this would've made my life hell in school"

[@brainiac.computer]

And it did.

[@codinginflow]

@@brainiac.computer well, not mine

[@Hayden11335]

Should’ve fought back pussy people who get bullied deserve it

[@codinginflow]

@@Hayden11335 I will certainly teach my kid how to be more assertive than I was

[@Hayden11335]

Coding in Flow maybe in some parallel universe your a bully 👀👀👀👀👀

[@ethankempthorne3473]

‘Can’t be having teenagers with interrupted sleep schedules’ Me at 3am: Yeah facts

[@ViCT0RiA6]

😂😂😂

[@samuelsvrcek4547]

😂😂cool

[@sankari6114]

I read your comment at 3.13am, oh the irony

[@TheLastMillennials]

Fortnite kids Zoomers

[@mikeexits]

Me going to bed at 5pm after waking up at 3am: Hur hur hurrr

[@HunterFantasizer]

Quitting social media is like The Matrix, once you’re out, you see the world for what it really is, and how it’s all just a game

[@JohnSmith-fs8bu]

Once you take the veil off, you have no idea what the fuck to do or what’s going on. That’s the hard part

[@axziz0094]

@@JohnSmith-fs8bu what do you mean?

[@JohnSmith-fs8bu]

@@axziz0094 once you stop distracting yourself with social media and other crap and see the world for what it really is, it’s hard to determine how to live life with the blinders off

[@aidenw9265]

@axziz 009 That’s just what happens to people who don’t already have direction and/or drive in their life. Try getting off of social media and you’ll see what he means. Hopefully you have something else to do first though lol... try reading a book and see how hard it is.

[@axziz0094]

@@aidenw9265 oh yea that makes sense I will try to quit for a week to see what’s it’s really like

[@vaterpolistzg]

I think social media gives anxiety to adults aswell

[@ivanc9231]

It can but I think adults have better outlets then kids do , that's why I left SM a long time ago

[@TheReminisce777]

Absolutely.

[@Killa91115]

It actually ruins a lot of marriages 4 out of 5 marriages end up in divorce.

[@eliminator173]

@@mayainverse9429 lmao.

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

@@mayainverse9429 so are you saying that some1 who didn't grow up with SM would get mad ?

[@theheeze]

Dude, it is their parents. I see parents of gen z kids on their phone 90% of the time they're "spending time together". The kids learn from them.

[@goliathtigerfishes]

SimonSays Nearly every time I see a kid with their parent on the metro/subway the kid is always playing a game or watching trash on the parents phone or device. It’s sad.

[@spiritmama]

My kid gets mad at me everyday because when we’re out, he can’t be on his phone. He has to look out the window for car rides 😱, has to have conversation w people 😬 and when we get home, he can’t be on it for a long time either. The longer he is off it, the more his uses his imagination to find things to do when he is bored. But it takes consistency. 🤷‍♀️ I dont keep him off it 100% cuz this is the world we live in now, but I do make sure he finds himself bored so he can figure out how else to spend his time. Usually he finds himself in some sort of art project. Its a good give and take. He prefers not to be on social media apps (ie facebook, snapchat, instagram, twitter, etc), but he does like KZbin and talks to his friends through Discord.

[@nathanphillips6335]

Tiny Dancer how old is he? I’m 14 and do basically the same: KZbin and discord. My parents let me do what ever I want as long as I earn it. I never found value in social media. Two years ago I moved from a SMALL town in Kentucky to Colorado leaving all my friends behind. The only way to communicate with my friends is through social media and similar mediums. I feel inept I don’t understand half the things they are talking about in terms of functionality and memes. I still don’t keep up with social media even though it’s the only way to talk to them. I’m just too busy with college classes and trying to exercise regularly and make friends that live nearby. Sorry I completely forgot what this comment was about and already typed it out so I’m posting it. One thing I’ll add is going outside and playing the way I’m sure you used to is harder unless other parents have the same mindset as you. I could go walk around my neighborhood of hours and not see a single person my age and it’s the same at the parks.

[@herbertt.viking1449]

You sir have perfectly encapsulated what I used to see when I was a lifeguard. Parents glued to their phones while the kids played by themselves in the pool. Absolutely disgraceful.

[@heyryanisonx3141]

When you're talking about the parents themselves, it seems more like Gen Alpha's parents, the millennials. Gen Z's parents are Gen X

[@marciesalkowski8139]

Social media is like being in the high school cafeteria

[@MasterMalrubius]

Every moment of the day.

[@JeanCarlosArtist]

Eating shit food?

[@nikrbawker]

Old hairy cooks and gov' massive canned goods

[@TheWaldocrazy]

@@JeanCarlosArtist consuming cheap shit (memes,stupid videos, fake news)

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

You can't block people irl

[@chambo9212]

One day I woke up, and just deleted all my social media. Didn’t just delete the app, didn’t just deactivate my profile, I permanently deleted every profile I had and my life got instantly better. I was immediately happier.

[@shaysgxga6919]

My question is what did you do to stay occupied? I’d get bored fast I’ve tried and want to get rid of social media but give in every time.

[@IPA300]

The key is to remember that boredom, no matter how bad it feels, is better for your mental health than social media, no matter how enjoyable.

[@chambo9212]

@@shaysgxga6919 sorry just seeing this reply. Any time I started to feel stir crazy, I would exercise, read, listen to music, call a friend to shoot the shit, go for a drive or a walk etc. If I’m being totally candid I became more sexually frustrated which actually caused me to be more motivated to pursue women more boldly which improved my sex life. (Sorry if that’s TMI but it’s the truth and just another great reason to do what I did.) sometimes I didn’t feel like doing any of those things and I just had to learn to be bored. Then I realised how much free time I actually had so I picked up a part time side job working for a friend. I have become closer to him as a result and I’m making so much more money, learning new skills, and avoiding idle time which sometimes temps me to fall back into my old ways. Literally my life did a 180.

[@Gohanitos]

@@shaysgxga6919 go to the gym or walk a couple of hours listening to music

[@mirandanavarro7585]

Same here. I’ve been off social media for 4 years now and it’s the best decision I ever made. Working towards getting rid of KZbin next

[@CandylandProd]

Looks like it's time to delete my 1 year old's Tinder account

[@justbreathe8835]

Lol dam

[@nwomar]

It's 3am here and I genuinely burst out laughing at this

[@sandpaper631]

Looks like it’s time to create my 1 year old boys grindr account

[@sathanas420]

@@nwomar what does the time have to do with anything? does your mom get mad if you laugh at 3 am?

[@nwomar]

@@sathanas420 No, but yours start shouting in bed if I do

[@Lukemasonmedia]

I hate how weird social media has made people socially. Instead of talking to somebody in public people just look down at their phone to avoid social interaction. You can just see the anxiety everybody has now. We’re literally losing the ability to socialize.

[@brandonmacky]

I know I’m late, but it’s ironic that everyone is losing the ability to socialize from "social" media

[@Skelbiner]

@@brandonmacky yeah

[@Andomosity]

I say this to all of my friends. You go into the tire shop to get new tires and everyone is just staring down at their phones. You go into the barber and everyone waiting is just looking at their phones. You go to the pool or beach and everyone not tanning or swimming is on their phones. Look around you, nobody wants to socialize anymore!

[@Skelbiner]

@@Andomosity Yeah. The government has succeded with their agenda.

[@brandonmacky]

Andrew Taylor It’s sad, being born in the newer generation I kinda wish phones were still used to text and call, but we can’t avoid the future

[@rhi6188]

Instagram made me miserable in school. Deleted when I got to university. Much happier now I'm focusing on enjoying my life and not comparing myself to others.

[@Zerin666]

That's what I find myself doing Everytime I go to isntagram.I keep comparing with random strangers online.So I deleted the apps.

[@akkros707]

The problem with not having social media, despite having regular texting, is when you're friends start not catching up with you when you don't use social media. Some of them may even look at you crazy. Its ridiculous.

[@maxrobley4200]

@@akkros707 I don’t mean to be blunt, but if your friends stop catching up with you because you don’t have social media, you should’ve dropped them a long time ago. I deleted all my social media because I realized I only cared to know what was going on with a handful of people. Now, I simply text or call them to hang out and catch up. If someone looks at you weird or won’t catch up with you because of your lack of social media presence, they were not a friend to start with, they were an acquaintance.

[@Millennial_Gardener]

@@maxrobley4200 so true

[@Millennial_Gardener]

That’s great! It’s very draining

[@flochforster6892]

Man Joe is insanely lucky. The fact he’s able to bring people in to talk about subjects he’s interested in is fascinating. There’s so many people I’d love to talk to from this show and ask so many questions.

[@Comicwiz27]

I mean we learn what he learns too 😂😭

[@imilly]

You can do it!

[@brentgoettsche]

He isn't lucky. He worked his ass off, although it was originally meant to just be fun.

[@Theendisnearasuouknowit]

@@brentgoettsche He is lucky if he’s rich and successful. Hard work isn’t the only factor to success, your genetics and environment play a key role in that.

[@brentgoettsche]

@@Theendisnearasuouknowit lol nope. Learn his life story. His success is, by far, mostly due to hard work and grind lol

[@burnbabylonburn78]

“I don’t want my kid on social media, I don’t want him to feel left out.” Trust me, you feel even MORE left out when you’re ON social media.

[@waedjradi]

It hits you hard when you get a text from someone who asks "Where you been?" after deleting your social media. Goes to show you how people really use social media as a virtual place in their minds. Where I've been?

[@krisd6811]

Or nobody asks at all...

[@deadheadronin1392]

I feel you

[@kefada881]

@@krisd6811 Yeah

[@eksquisite]

So distanced from real friendships, im disgusted

[@toluadek]

People ask where I've been just cos I didn't tweet for a month lol

[@bloomango96]

Honestly feel like 80% of the negative aspects of social media is the comments. People show their true colors behind a screen.

[@KillerAJ]

Jeff Jeffrey or lack there of. It used to frustrate how my posts(usually political arguments or memes) would have 1-3 likes (usually the same people) and nothing else and a friend of mine would put up a picture of his new M3 or a picture of Santorini and it gets a hundred likes.

[@andresesqueda1424]

Yes. Especially political comment sections.

[@advisorywarning]

Also the impossible beauty/life standards represented on ig it gives people such incredible insecurity

[@FrediskiwidoesrandomSTUFF]

Fax sometimes I realise how much of a dick I can be

[@aurelien5747]

Frediskiwi just ask yourself if you’d say that to this persons face

[@salmiakki7652]

As a gen z girl, this was me, I was the depressive middle/high schooler. I can’t imagine throwing an iPad in front of my child for hours a day after feeling the first hand effects of social media

[@johansutton3895]

Take your life

[@CeresNails]

Same im 17 now and i totally relate sometimes I just want to throw my phone away but I can’t I need it now but when I get older Im getting a flip phone.

[@johansutton3895]

@@CeresNails snow flake

[@IIEthanGamingII]

@@johansutton3895 take YOUR life

[@josephvega1161]

I think the issue is influence. Who's ideas and opinions are most influential to a kid? For a kid with a poor relationship with parents, family, friends, I can see the negative effects of the world being very problematic. For a kid with a strong community of all the above, I see those influences as just annoying but minor inconveniences.

[@forgotsomething4995]

There’s also toxic people glorifying self harm and depression everywhere on social media and it disgust me how easily they get young teenagers to look up to them and imitate their behavior.

[@adams1458]

Forgot Something lil xan, lol

[@sunset3250]

Where does the glorifying come from though? Seems like an outward acceptance of what's already growing inside.

[@charin951]

Sunset especially tumbler somewhat Instagram

[@charin951]

Sunset it should be accepted but depression shouldn’t be normalized. Now it’s seen as relatable and quirky to be depressed

[@callanc3925]

​@@sunset3250 i believe its more common in girls, because admitting your depressed gets you a lot of attention from guys who may be genuinely wanting to help you feel better but also might see it as a chance at someone who doesnt know better

[@glendon6367]

One of the most important topics of our time.

[@johnnyblade6088]

I totally agree. And it's scary that people are not taking this issue seriously.

[@shockwave68]

Seriously agree. A very mal-adjusted, toxic generation of kids is getting ready to hit the workplace. Its gonna be rough.

[@AW-ou5dl]

Before I got out of education, kids would waste so much time in the bathrooms on their phones taking selfies of themselves before and after class. We had to have bathroom monitors to get them to class on time. It's not only anxiety, but complete narcissism. They couldn't focus in class unless they posted on Instagram before. Their worlds completely revolve around themselves. As soon as they get a whiff the world doesn't work that way, they'd loose it. These kids have to stroke their egos constantly or they're destroyed. Once I had students bringing "anxiety fish" (beta fish they'd carry around in a bowl and stare at when they felt stress, which was all the time) I knew we were in trouble. Even the best students had the narcissistic tendicies. It's only going to get worse if not corrected soon.

[@beezoofer]

It already is because social media has evened out generations where people into their thirties and forties are acting just like their teens.

[@JohnStockton7459]

Its so much more distructive than we can seee right now, funny how you cant drink alcohol, but 10 year olds can have this virus in their pocket all day, thats litteraly destroying their mental health

[@Scottiii95]

I was born in 95 and have stopped using all social media except KZbin; feels good, no more FOMO

[@Kamzwins]

@Odd Fish Fear Of Missing Out

[@a.a.3699]

Same here! No FB, no Twitter, no IG, no Snapchat. Get out of the asylum people!

[@danersson]

Sælur I was born in 84 and fomo is the worst aspect of social media for me. Instagram is the absolute worst -stopped using it a while back.

[@davidpfeifer9489]

Sælur I was born in 90, and never had a Facebook, Twitter, no real online presence besides tinder lol. Friends used to tell me “ bro ur missing out” but I always suspected something was fucked up about it....guess I’m old school

[@someguy...726]

i was born in 01 and quit social media all together last year. ive even gotten others to quit with me, and let me tell you my quality of life is so much better now.

[@AJanae.]

What’s crazy is that we all acknowledge that social media is so destructive to our lives but no one does anything about it. It’s a deep addiction that people don’t want to try to stop

[@marinecombatvet2669]

It is truly an addiction in many. But don't discount the many other people who HAVE done something about it, and taken our lives back as our own. It can seem insurmountable to even consider leaving social media, I recognize that. That fear of becoming invisible to the world. But for those of us who have, and those who still will, the recognition exists as a real-world acceptance of us existing. Not as some digital pseudo-individual, but as an actual flesh-and-blood person. Social media cannot quantify that. Non-digital humans break their algorithm. And YOU can too.

[@21972012145525]

Agreed! Government needs to step up . Either content creators or the algorithm need to have limits

[@GreatCdn59]

@@marinecombatvet2669 love that!

[@jessekittrell2946]

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much money involved now. Hell alcohol has been killing people for years.

[@marinecombatvet2669]

@@jessekittrell2946 Addictions are addictions, but social media is different. If you are buying a pint of liquor every day to down before bed, you should be able to recognize that there's an issue that might need addressing. We tend to recognize our consumption of substances--we either ignore that excessive consumption, have someone else who'll bring it up, or decide ourselves that we'll make a change for this behavior that is clearly not healthy. Social media is NOT like this. With social media, there's really no warning signal in the typical sense. We don't have to buy it with our cash every day for there to be a serious problem. Who cares if we check it every 15 minutes? It's not like we're taking a shot at the same intervals, right? Right? But we are. When we are obsessively locked into that digital system, our brain doesn't really treat it any different. Whether a shot of alcohol, a hit from some narcotic, or finding that our last post is THIS CLOSE to going viral (if only we could find a way to bump it up)--a bump is a bump. A hit is a hit. Addiction is addiction. Drugs or drink or digital, the effect of that dopamine and brain chemistry doesn't differentiate. A person can become an addict without ever taking any real substance into their body. Addiction does not require a substance, it's clearly defined in the medical field. We humans addict to SO many things, MANY more things than just substances. We seek out that dopamine hit, we seek out the rush or thrill that might come from anything. But it's only an addiction once we become dependent on it. Dependency is what makes something (anything) an addiction. Doesn't actually matter what that *thing* is. Money can addict just as powerfully as any drug can--just as can chasing that 'LIKE' icon. Don't kid yourself. It's never too late to recognize an addiction and choose to make a change that will take you back from it. "It's way too late now" to go back is how an addict will justify their addiction. It's not their fault really, it's the human condition. We just want to feel good. We ALL want to feel good. Nothing wrong with it. But do not kid yourself and tell yourself that it's all ok because we're so entrenched in this new reality of digital and social everything connectedness. It's not always a problem to everyone. But to some, sometimes, it becomes one. And when it does, it's medically no different than any other addiction. Your obsessive facebook checking and constant need for it to validate yourself may very well be harming you. If you cannot walk away from something that's become a habit, there's a good chance it's become elevated to that of an addiction. No matter what IT is.

[@_baller]

When you look at social media you're in a depressive state, you're bored.. and you're looking at ppl in an excited state, and you get filled with envy, jealousy, anger, anxiety etc.. so stop looking, social media is very new and very unnecessary for life

[@burlong01]

This is kind of a stretch. It's like saying I only watch movies because I'm bored and therefor in a depressive state. I can be bored and enjoy social media responsibly at the same time. I believe it really comes down to having a healthy understanding that what you see on social media isn't always the truth, or something your life is lacking.

[@colbybierl4721]

25 years in the big picture is nothing@abandoned failer

[@gettingtoastedatq]

Well this is truth to this. We do use social media when bored but many also use it to float their “success” or happiness and they present a life that doesn’t actually exist. They fabricate it to appear a certain way or status. Then a normal person sees this and compares their own life to a made up one and feel a sense of lacking. It takes a strong person to say, “I don’t care what they are doing I am fine with what I have and where I am in life”. Many lack that

[@insaneone4369]

TRUTH

[@cellardoor199991]

I'm happy for friends when they get married or have a celebration. Why would I be jealous. Maybe bored. Jealous, depressed...no.

[@Skateandcreate9]

As a millennial male I have to say social media has affected me overwhelmingly negatively to the point that I had to cut it out almost entirely.

[@geetee2392]

I think it's positive that you recognized and mitigated the damage.

[@Ender-Corbin]

Same here, I us FB 2-3 times a week, sometimes going for weeks without it. Got rid of my smartphone last year because it was to addicting.

[@Nightowl333]

Same, I’m 33 and it caused a huge amount of anxiety in my life. I would randomly deactivate for short periods over the years. Now I’m on my longest streak 6 months off Facebook and I’ve never felt better or more content. The subconscious constant life comparing is horrible.

[@thenoseyskeptic]

I'm in the same boat with you. Had to delete Facebook and Instagram because it is an overwhelming disease

[@callanc3925]

@@joere-uploader5766 wow its almost like not everything in the same category is as beneficial/harmful as everything else in that category, who wouldve thought.

[@Jake-im2lv]

I can agree with Johns assessment that coddling kids negatively effects their social skills and anxiety levels. As a kid I was never pushed to get out of my comfort zone socially, was never pushed to go up to the counter at the store and purchase things, or to go and catch a bus on my own or a train. I believe it, alongside the usual high school bullying made me quite socially anxious. I'm 27 now and have worked hard to get out of my comfort zone and for the most part many of my anxieties are under control, but it took a long time whilst my peers didn't have these issues and got on with life a lot better than I have so far.

[@loreaver3882]

True, kids have to practice being independent

[@GuadalupePicasso]

Jake2 God bless you for growing and healing such as you have, man. Keep up the good work!

[@JonnyBeoulve]

Same. My parents fucked up. Made my 20s a nightmare. Still a moderate problem for me in my 30s. I try though.

[@luthienzirael6741]

I have experienced this as well but with work. When I was in high school I was asking my parents to find a part-time job ( i was very carefree then and not at all anxious) and they didn't agree with it cause they wanted me to have time to play and focus on school and while I understand they did it because they cared etc it was actually bad for me. I'm 22 now and I get very anxious and stressed thinking about getting a job because I never got familiar with it when I should have.

[@XXXXBossXXXX]

same thing dude. im in my 20's and i have bad anxiety bc i was always pampered my whole life along with some negative mechanisms from cultural parenting.... as long as we grow and dont give up. it'll be more than okay..

[@BANDIT2DAY]

I just watched this podcast again. I’m so glad I was a teenager in the 1980s. Life was so much easier back then and we had the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet union.

[@freetime4621]

@Najaf S. You do realize that the soviet union sent orders to send nukes however a soldier stenislav petrov assumed that the orders where false alarms and stopped a nuclear war from occuring you can research it

[@zroysum]

@Najaf S. that doesn't match with the history the threat was always real and in fact a case can be made that this threat created the military industrial complex. Your point about the f22 is ill informed it's the best air to air fighter on Earth.

[@sweatyatoms7719]

@@zroysum I am a Sovjet Nuclear Missle Silo and I agree that they wanted to use me in 80's to fire a nuclear warhead. I am retired now.

[@Silverswitch1]

@@freetime4621 Yes, because that obviously happened and the Central Committee just decided not to send orders to launch nukes because they might be mistaken for false orders.

[@oscars4608]

Simple solution: teach every kid MMA so they can land a sweet Joe Rogan spinning side kick on the bullies

[@ImortalZeus13]

Oscar S How the flying fuck does a spinning sidekick work?

[@josephalford7197]

DigitalZ look it up

[@electronicraisin5956]

@@josephalford7197 you mean pull that up

[@MRBlack01234]

How you gonna give a spinning kick on social media.

[@mxkhxi]

MR. BLACK well, you could always tell them to pull up irl. if they don't, you make a fool out of them. if they do, you make a fool out of them.

[@repmidwest]

This man's voice is like honey in my ears. Somebody get this guy a podcast.

[@seantheguy]

Got damn asmr FREAK!!

[@seantheguy]

You right tho

[@MountainJew69]

REP MIDWEST He already has one it’s called the Joe Rogan Experience you can find it on KZbin

[@MikkoB89]

He sounds like he’s slapping wet slices of ham together while he talks, super interesting stuff he’s saying though, but annoying to listen to.

[@SunnyDallasRealtor]

um no its creeeeepy LOL

[@herbertt.viking1449]

I miss the days when it was just the DS that made you cool EDIT: I love how even months after making this comment people are still keeping it alive and reminiscing together lol

[@adamgillespie3393]

I'm just old enough to remember a time where some of us had phones at 10 but the cooler kids had a DS. It was nice

[@2quick614]

Or owning a PSP in 04-09 was cool, also the PSP Go was nice. Always wanted a PSP Go, just had a PSP-2000 though

[@schechter01]

Hell, I miss the days when phones had cords & you had to go somewhere that had a phone in order to use one....sometimes you had to pay for it, too.

[@mikeexits]

@@adamgillespie3393 Oh man, and when the DSi first came out, I felt like I was on the cutting edge of technology and gaming in my summer camp, lol.

[@jesuslovesyou7130]

Me toon😢

[@Inktownicon]

I deleted social media for 6 months and could count on my fingers how many people still kept in touch with me after I deleted it. I only have about 5 real friends.

[@shreyasprajapati7388]

the fact that nobody kept in touch with me after i deleted my socials proves how fake it really is

[@johnpark7972]

Well you have 5 real friends and that's very great and valuable.

[@alicechained210]

No one stayed in touch with me you are lucky

[@johnforeman634]

I think it’s been proven that it’s almost impossible to maintain actual close, caring friendships with more than 5 people anyways. You’re probably not really missing out on anything anyways.

[@ez6888]

5 is a lot for ‘real friends’. You’re doing great, cherish that group

[@Only2GendersCommonSense]

"Social media is the DEVIL!" -Bobby Bouche's mom

[@kinggrizzly1916]

I’m 16 right now had Instagram and It made me depressed, so I deleted all social media now I’m am way better off and way happier

[@aaronwilliams589]

You’ve got a rough time ahead

[@givingittoyouraw4101]

@jordan summers If you want to quit social media, then just do it. To hell with what people think. If people ask you about it, then tell them matter of factly, but confidently that you used to have an account, but deleted it because you weren't really using it or don't have the time, or something. Mature people, those worthy of being called your "friends," won't think anything of it and won't view you any differently. At most, they may tease you a little, but not to be malicious. Stupid people, on the other hand, whose lives revolve around social media like zombies, may respond negatively or maliciously. If they do, just brush your shoulders off and limit/cut association with them. You find out who your real friends are when you stray from the common herd mentality and have the guts to stand up for what is right.

[@pandakicker1]

KingGrizzly 78 that’s fantastic that you realized this so young! too many young people let it continue in their lives until it’s seriously done horrible damage to their psyches. i’m 24 and just barely had a good enough motivation to get the hell off facebook for good. i feel better but my anxiety is still an issue. bravo!

[@pandakicker1]

jordan summers people will think you’re weird but they already think that about me so whatever. i say just do it. if you don’t do it now, you will keep making excuses for why you should just stay on for another week.

[@sheilashadiamusic]

I quit social media about a year ago, didn't delete my accounts but rarely log on. Also I am an older millennial past 30 so not young however as a former performer it became too much! It's strange, hardly anyone will say anything to your face but the ghouls come out to troll people online, how "brave" 😂

[@jackrockwell6698]

I’m 38 and thankful that social media wasn’t around when I was 15.

[@xaviierm9332]

Jack Rockwell i wish, feel like things were more enjoyable, in the moment

Facts!

[@warshrag1903]

i’m 18 and am now realizing the effects using social media when i was 12 had on. Really wish i could’ve noticed the signs when i was younger

[@YogawithAliBeale]

I'm 41 social media would have killed me in high school. I'm so thankful even now it's brutal I'm so much happier when I don't use it.

[@MaximTendu]

37 here, got a one-year fling with My Space some twelve years ago, got bored and decided to say no to Facebook and smartphones. I miss the Brave Old World.

[@NonceKillaz]

"Girls make themselves miserable, boys make other people miserable." This line perfectly sums up humanity

[@lancewalker2595]

I think suicide technically does fall under that category.

[@guitarzan2979]

And when boys and girls grow up they make each other miserable

[@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb]

@@guitarzan2979 where do you live?

[@guitarzan2979]

@@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb I’m not sure why you ask, but Florida.

[@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb]

@@guitarzan2979 of course Florida

[@Pocko213]

This is pure gold. I was overly protected by my mum when I was a teenager. I became depressed and sad, I suffered from social anxiety and had no friends. To give you an example she made my bed until I was 19 years old... It wasnt until i started doing things for myself and creating goals that i started to become confident, make friends and enjoy life more. Now me and my mum are much closer and she is happier now thay she isnt worrying about me all the time.

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

I had to do a lots of things by myself as a teenager (cook, wash my own clothes, clean the house,etc) but one thing I never properly do is socializing and it's gives me social anxiety.

[@tangerinetech5300]

this fuck is really complaining that he had someone make his bed for 19 straight years. adults call that free maid service.

[@RwandaBob]

im gen z and i totally agree with this. i wont make the same mistake my parents did by letting me have social media at a young age

[@seantheguy]

Yeah, power to ya!!! ima beat the fuck outta my kids.

[@omgeoh]

To be fair, I doubt they're aware of this. I doubt many ppl are aware of any of this information.

[@omgeoh]

Sean Bogen agreed, puppies > kids.

[@DannyGadish]

@@omgeoh yup. german shepherds are fucking angels

[@SirAuronthehonorable]

“Letting you” I think you mean: I’ll make my sure my kids won’t go behind my back like I did to my parents.

[@yorkshire3939]

Joe "that chart looks like a BMX bike jump ramp" Rogan

[@Zwettekop]

I thought it was a really good analogy to be honest.

[@treklaws]

Lol

[@Ansemrp]

I laughed hard at that as well.

[@frostychickenprods]

Yorkshire only he would day that lmao

[@alexanderruiz6479]

jump ramp

[@TankGunner84]

My son is 12 and I don’t let him have social media, he is a super happy and well rounded out young man. He has never had a problem with depression or anything. That’s even with his mom walking out on us when he was little and I’ve raised him by myself since. It helps knowing what is going on in your kids life! Don’t be their friend, be their parent!!

[@iskanderwiseman4293]

Respect.

[@TankGunner84]

@@iskanderwiseman4293 thank you.

[@Aiphiae]

As a teacher I've been saying this for *years.* Everyone (who wasn't a teacher) told me I was out of my mind... yet here we are.

[@adrianaguilar7017]

Aiphiae fight the man

[@MostafaElSakari]

Abel Leever I’m in the educational system and I have to agree.

[@LeSyd1984]

@jordan summers The best part about quitting social media is you can't find out what those fokers on social media think about you quitting social media anyhow. lol

[@youssefhamidi8152]

I deleted FB a few years ago and deleted IG two months ago. I havent missed it for one second.

[@cosodesign8953]

I just deleted both a couple weeks ago and besides the lack of memes it’s been really great.

[@AirCanada1J5]

@@joere-uploader5766 Yeah but nobody takes it seriously and it's all strangers

[@Im_matthew_alexander]

I still have IG & Snapchat, but i i deleted my Facebook. Facebook is evil

[@joejingojack]

Me too. Probably the best thing I have done so far, lol

[@tobiasprevoo]

I deleted my FB account 4 years ago and I also didnt miss it for one second.

[@veggiesarefruits]

Every time I've deleted my social media accounts, I've felt immediately better. Why did I ever get back on? Pressure from family and friends, and also, the feeling of missing out. I was born in 1988 and have had depression and anxiety for years, but ever since social media, my depression has skyrocketed. This just reinforces my belief that social media is doing nothing good for our social lives.

[@pingu3984]

Yeah this is 1000% true. I deleted everything except email and it's made such a noticeable difference. They know what your email and phone number are... People who want to contact you will make the effort to.

[@CarpeDiem431]

Jennifer Carter same! I love it. I guess I’m lucky in that the people I care about accept it and don’t encourage me to use social media.

[@JG-ce6op]

Its social life poison. I got rid of snapchat and I'm so much better off. It was becoming a distraction.

[@mikehunt5134]

I hope you're okay, ur very smart for doing that! we're all loved

[@lionelhutz5137]

It also makes us (normal people) more aware of our flaws and imperfections and it really sucks lol. We're constantly exposed to people and celebrities (and our friends as well) that are better than us in every way (looks, money, overall quality of life etc.) and we're comparing ourselves to them. For me, personally, I've never let other people (other than authorities, employers, teachers etc.) set the standards for me, I'm far from perfect and I know it so if I don't jibe with you then that's cool..just move on. Life is way too short to constantly give fucks about what others think of you, the sooner you accept this the better.

[@LloydChristmas08]

This has aged incredibly well. In 2020 we found out people can’t handle social media.

[@Manucj7]

I'm listening to this guy, feeling sad at how easily people get addicted. Yet I'm addicted to KZbin watching this video... Scary.

[@michaelknight4099]

At least we are learning something here.

[@robertrossi9364]

I'm 'addicted' to so much and I feel fine!! Enjoy at your own pace

[@tupd]

@@michaelknight4099 i mean...how many vids do you REALLY remember the info from that youve watched, later in the day much less the next day?

[@tupd]

@@robertrossi9364 thats what all addicts say bruh...

[@michaelknight4099]

@@tupd I'm more of a bookworm. The most retainable knowledge I find is within text. With that being said, I remember the majority of anything I put my attention to, whether that be reading or viewing.

[@bvespertine]

To everyone saying KZbin is social media, yes it is, but it's *not* the same as traditional social media ala Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter. If we even bother to use the comments section, it is with strangers. There's no comparison to others, no FOMO, no filters warping beauty standards, no highlight reel, no bullying from peers -- everything mentioned in the video as being harmful. That's not to say that KZbin can't be addictive or have negative effects if too much time is spent on it either. But it isn't causing widespread anxiety/depression the way traditional social media is.

[@wisdomfruit7162]

KZbin is on my phone 24/7 of the time I use the phone it empowers me with knowledge but also gets me depressed because my peers can't even understand my advanced ideas I'm 17

[@demarremiller7589]

@@wisdomfruit7162 doesnt get any easier either my man... not many people choose a path of awareness and conciousness... learn to love yourself, so you dont mind being alone.. I was the same way you are... sad because no one gets it. But it's ok man. Not everyone is suppose to get it.. just worry about you, and vibe at your own frequency, and those who's frequency is on the same as yours, they will gravitate towards you. Have patients. Love

[@totinospizzarolls4737]

@@wisdomfruit7162 KZbin is still addictive. I would limit watching clickbait/menial content, and limit it to one to two hours a day

[@wisdomfruit7162]

@@totinospizzarolls4737 I'm sorry I can't I'm addicted to wisdom and all the knowledge out there maybe it has to do with having power that increases my thirst for knowledge

[@Nightowl333]

I would not consider KZbin social media at all, in its classic definition. It’s simply Video Media with a feature to comment. You don’t see a constant feed of everyone you knows life and thoughts. It’s just an entertainment platform.

[@OneWhoDreamsAwake]

I was born in 1993 so I watched this happen. Additionally, I’m a teacher, so I see it everyday. Kids are in trouble right now. I don’t know if we can reverse the damage but I’m so glad people are talking about solutions.

[@ramusdoyle5899]

Same 1993. I'm so fucking confused on everything

[@Em-ss4lg]

I'm a 93'er and a teacher as well and I completely agree...it's very sad seeing kids like this these days.

[@johnnymichael1804]

Get the Marxists out of the goddamn schools and stop subsidizing psychotic teachings. They are ruining the entire Western World under the guise of progress.

[@watermelonboi5829]

I’m reporting you for voicing your opinion on social media hope you can find a new job lol

[@jimdandy8996]

Nature vs, nurture - since its unlikely genetic then its likely a wave of mass crappy parenting.

[@ginamcmanama2018]

as a 17 year old girl, social media is SOOOOO damaging. the ramifications of it on your mental well being weigh even after usage has stopped. I have been off of it for 7 months besides youtube and i feel so much better.

[@TheLastMillennials]

You're QuaranTeen

[@ginamcmanama2018]

@@TheLastMillennials ok i honestly don’t understand but go off

[@TheLastMillennials]

@@ginamcmanama2018 you're a teen so I call you quaranTEEN

[@ginamcmanama2018]

@@TheLastMillennials ok i got that part but the quaran it’s not like coronavirus has anything to do with this😂

[@TheLastMillennials]

@@ginamcmanama2018 quraranTEEN

[@kshepard2947]

Social media hasn’t been cool since 2009. Once family got on there I was out.

[@OneThousandEyes]

That's mostly true for Facebook only. Kids are on Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok.

[@unblindmymind4737]

Not since MySpace.

[@aangel-s2p]

facts

[@krisd6811]

Hahaha right

[@MRBlack01234]

I have no social media accounts. No Facebook, No Instagram, No tik tok.

[@loni1932]

School and social media gave me anxiety, depression, and body dysmorphia.

[@BR-re7oz]

Shut up you fat ugly bitch.

[@greyscaleb1537]

Walter

[@jxx7242]

No it was you who gave yourself anxiety and depression and body dysmorphia

[@loni1932]

@@BR-re7oz i just looked at the comment section and im laughing my ass off thanx doode 😭

[@robertovaldez1730]

Fuckin pussy ass stop being a BITCH!!

[@Botatochicken]

as a 16 year old girl, high beauty standards on social media is a hugggeee part of it, its usually not cyber bullying at all anymore

[@TonyNaber]

@Ricky Madrigal Yes, and add to that the excess boast of wealth and sexual activity. I scroll past the garbage these days, but I can see the damage it did to me when I was a teen

[@justanothernguyen2334]

The fuck you watching joe rogan, kid? Go out hiking or something.

[@Matty94]

Girls without make-up and all the other bs is much more valuable in my eyes.

[@Matty94]

@@norman6898 Yea it is scary how young men do this, whilst ignoring the long term damage

[@4o8.am.85]

@@justanothernguyen2334 dumbest shit I’ve ever heard😹

[@Uddipt-nj8fm]

I know its not related, but this guy’s voice is really soothing.

[@jupiterisaak1004]

He needs an ASMR channel ASAP

[@chrisscott6961]

Except for the fact it sounds like macaroni being stirred

[@tommyoneill9761]

Yeah, he could read me a book and I’d fall asleep in about 5 seconds.

[@cantina2425]

deleted all my social media months ago for many reasons and i’m living the best life

[@goliathtigerfishes]

How has it been going? Any significant lifestyle change? I am considering getting rid of certain social media’s for my minds sake.

[@shrug8690]

Anonymous Sinner do it. It’s like trying to stop smoking, but it’s doable. And the health benefits outweigh the... connection/scrolling dopamine’s. So far it’s just Facebook and a tad bit of Instagram for business purposes to get through the day. Everything else is up to me, and frankly, it’s been pretty amazing. It’s lonesome, but it’s better than scrolling for hours and wasting energy that will better your life.

[@ediz5306]

Bruh you on KZbin

[@shane2064]

@@ediz5306 this is true, and its still addictive, but I would think its better then others because its harder to communicate.

[@nickd2296]

I just deleted twitter. I barely use snap, insta, and facebook.

[@peppy9082]

Jon: "Your brain is fully developed" Joe: "Well sort of...its sketchy" lmao

[@colincopland3665]

Not so much sketchy but hazy... 🍁🍄🚬 🤣🤣😂

[@ishzsbxux]

@Pringles The Movie L M A O

[@rharris8429]

This guy would be the best Christmas book reader.

[@yeshalloween]

ryan harris he WOULD!!

[@jillianocken2385]

@@yeshalloween lowkey ASMR

[@mariuszdeptulski4644]

The problem with the world is ppl like you.

[@rharris8429]

@@mariuszdeptulski4644 awwwww.... thanks man.

[@BasicallyMindy]

This conversation about girls is breaking my heart. 💔

[@lexstacks6944]

You'll be a better person by getting rid of your social media..

[@Runny117]

@@joere-uploader5766 not when I come on here anonymously to watch music videos and podcasts, etc. not the same thing even in the slightest.

[@Runny117]

@@joere-uploader5766 This is different brah. I dont have my social identity on here. You don't know me. I dont know you. Oh yes I do, i wait in your damned lines all the time DMV. everyone hates you, DMV

[@Runny117]

@@joere-uploader5766 never said I didn't broham.

[@angelazolezzi]

I really didn’t want to get rid of Instagram bc I find cool and fun things but was just super tired of looking at posts from ppl that I knew. So I just es deleted and started following celebrities and memes and not really people that I know. Now it’s fun for me. And for fb I only clean it out by removing ppl I find annoying or don’t know. I mean fb is one of my main sources of news and entertainment. So, so far so good ☺️

[@callanc3925]

@jordan summers I'd say anyone that judges your decision to not be on social media, isnt someone whos opinion should ever matter to you.

[@therealdanieldavis]

I'm 22 years old and I see my 50 year old aunts with anxiety cuz of it.

[@evanvincent9356]

This is incredibly eye opening, I’m a teenager and I never wanted social media because I’m on my phone too much already and that shit is super addictive. The data shown in this video is just crazy, makes me want to have social media even less now

[@hosamfikry2924]

You're on the right track brother

[@marinecombatvet2669]

You're already past the first step young man. You give me inspiration for your generation. The next step is harder though, but you can do it. Test yourself, challenge yourself. Go without it all for one month. Just ONE month. Afterwards, you can decide what you feel you've been missing and go back, but you won't. You'll realize the actual value you have, even without the fake digital validation of people you probably have never even met. You'll have yourself, your true self--FOR yourself. The ones that matter won't vanish. YOU will not vanish. You are on the very right track, and just reading your comment gives me hope for the future. That doesn't happen much these days, so thank you young Sir. YOU are our future.

[@spottyblanks5199]

I remember working with this lady who'd have massive breakdowns if nobody like her Facebook post

[@Melly16yr10]

Seriously?

[@spottyblanks5199]

@@Melly16yr10 yeah it was sad.

[@Millennial_Gardener]

@@spottyblanks5199 dang... it really does mess with your head. It’s hard

[@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE]

Damn that shit is evil. You gotta break free from it or you’ll always be a slave

[@jay0339]

😂

[@ANDROMEDA-xq9yc]

I think "Girls make themselves miserable and boys make other people miserable" is now my favorite quote from this podcast

[@destroyermaker]

Meh, everyone makes everyone miserable

[@platinumbrick6]

destroyermaker nah it sounds like you make everyone miserable

[@destroyermaker]

@@platinumbrick6 Nah

[@ANDROMEDA-xq9yc]

@@destroyermaker nah

[@platinumbrick6]

destroyermaker yeah definitely 😂 get a haircut buddy

[@_____7512]

Joe is a real man. When he refers to his “grown one who’s 22” is actually his step daughter that he stepped up and raised. he’s always been a G but he just got some good dad points from me.

[@louiss4672]

his wife wouldnt do that for him.

[@ryanm7263]

The day I abandoned all my social media accounts, my mental health started to improve dramatically.

[@mommasboy34]

What about KZbin?

[@gideonMorrison]

@@mommasboy34 not social media

[@mommasboy34]

@@gideonMorrison Well we are being social and watching media so..

[@gideonMorrison]

@@mommasboy34 learn your definitions kid

[@mommasboy34]

@@gideonMorrison if you think to KZbin isn't social media then you're deluded

[@rosiepink1]

I’m a female who was born in 1999 and I can confirm, he’s pretty much spot on and I’ve been having so many regrets lately & have felt like I’ve missed out on so much and am past my prime...I’m 21. I also had mental health issues (anxiety/depression) since elementary school. Was also nonstop bullied in school and on social media when I went home.

[@rosiepink1]

@@McBike770 Dude, do you know how to talk to people? Or are you only rude because you're a coward, behind the comfort of a keyboard? I know your prime in until your mid-late 30s. That's why I said "...I'm 21", to show how I'm young but still feeling like I don't have much time left to be young. Smh, the arrogance of your pure ignorance.

[@HooyahPeacock]

He isn't ignorant... you're way of thinking is. If you're 21 feeling like that you need to make a change.

[@LawnMowerFan]

Hey how are you doing now? I hope your world is a little better :)

[@ZT_Performance]

18-25 is your prime it's not over yet

[@jessekittrell2946]

​@ZT Performance eh 20-28ish

[@davidb6108]

90s and early 00s there would be ONE family computer in the living room. Today there's like 20 devices in a household. A quad core smartphone can be bought for 20 bucks at your local grocery store.

[@Boredperson360]

Yup, we had cartoons on the tv every saturday/sunday till 10 in the morning, no 24h kids tv yet, cept cartoon network and that was expensive... so after 10 we had nothing better to do than play with other kids.. poor poor us :P there weres gaming, but nothing as engaging as today, so you would naturally get bored and move on... my first mobilephone was a nokia 3310 (the undying) got it around the age of 14, and all we really could do was call and text... and back then you had to pay per text, so going on all night texting with a girl was costly :P

[@scottolsen8946]

@@Boredperson360 overall that was better for socialization because if you wanted to talk more with your friend or love interest, you would actually set a date to hang out in person and talk face to face. No wonder many people are becoming "socially awkward". They are getting less practice with face to face interaction.

[@Boredperson360]

@@scottolsen8946 not only that these people will also have a tough time in work places, since there is no way to go away from social interactions, no "Safe spaces"... in around 10 years we will start to replace our current workforce globally, with these generations, and we do not even know the full extend of what will happen to people after 20 years(or more) of low to none social interaction and growth :S

[@antonsaysyee]

"It's like a virus came out of nowhere" Us in 2020: ...

[@teslimiyetnet]

The pyshical had always been a representation of the spiritual.

[@dmshowerthoughts5034]

I audibly said "Oof" when I heard this

[@mikeexits]

@@teslimiyetnet Ultimately they are one and the same

[@seearyari]

It was already coming, US just didn’t care till it was already in every state

[@fuckmedude8167]

You mean the world

[@Lost_Frequency]

Instagram gets famous in 2012, graph skyrockets.

[@pingu3984]

It's an unpopular opinion but I really think Instagram has ruined a generation of people.

[@wakwak7511]

Jennifer Carter I wouldnt say its unpopular

[@chaseclarkemusic]

Instagram has been horrible for my mental health don't go on it as much anymore and I. Feel a lot better

[@joenotexotic4872]

More like after 2014

[@TheLastMillennials]

Yeah

[@ilsevalfreeley4169]

This doctor nailed it! we need him in mainstream media thanks for sharing!

[@jennycoyle8204]

As a woman I totally get this. I have a ten year old daughter and I’m working every day teaching my girl just how stupid the social media is. I’m so lucky to live in an area where the kids still play outside until the streetlights come on

[@fancywaifu9821]

I’m 18 years old and still years away from having kids but I definitely grew up with the generation that is so addicted to social media and I don’t want my future kids getting addicted to it like me

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

Thank you for your leadership.

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

@@fancywaifu9821 We may have kinda a great awakening. The trick is for the youngest generation to rebel from the status quo and be edgy and different.

[@ez6888]

The ‘As a woman’ part is entirely unnecessary

[@jennycoyle8204]

@@ez6888 why? I am a woman I am a mother to a young woman. I’m allowed to say that

[@julieshaffer1896]

As a preteen I spent my time either with school, a paper route, baby sitting, learning to cook , sew, and clean , or playing sports. The world seemed like a great place, even though I was in a large poor family. I wasn't at all popular and some girls tried to bully me but I really didn't care since my life was so full. I wonder what I would have done with a facebook account.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

That is wonderful. Keep that positive Energy!

[@bluewaters3100]

You would have loved my daughter. We used to watch "Laura Ingals"...Little House On The Prairie together. I bought her all kinds of cook and bakeware. She loved to cook from scratch like "Laura's family. She even made butter once. She has 2 and 5 year old girls and is now using that bakeware with them. I am so glad she did not have social media growing up. She took out her TV and will not let her kids watch anything except for on Movie nite which is on Friday. The two year old isn't into it much although she loved Frozen. The two year old calls her sister Anna because she cannot say Freya which is her real name. It is really cute.

[@keepmovingforward8821]

your making me jealous

[@christiannehutchins8512]

I been sober from Facebook for 3 years plus. It did bring me back to who I always wanted to be. A father to my children.

[@michaelsaxonson251]

"Your brain is developed" "Sort of" Joe is very self aware

[@Clutch_Kick187]

I'm 37 and what they used to call a latch key kid.. which meant I had a single mom that worked her ass off every day that went to work before I woke up and didn't get home until a few hours after I was home from school. From 5th grade on I set my own alarm, dressed and groomed myself every morning, and walked or rode my bicycle to school and back each day. Of course I made some bad decisions in life but it totally made me an independant person at a young age.. Today it would be considered neglect, but in the late 80s & early 90s it was completley normal.. I have never had any social media account FB, IG, SC, ect.. My wife has a FB and i see how it compells her to stare at her phone for a couple hours each night.. I cannot imagine what it does to kids.. I just hope this trend stops sometime soon or Im gonna build a time machine out of a Delorian and go back to 1981..

[@MelModica]

I was born January 1981 and I’m so glad we didn’t have social media!

[@temetnosce17]

Since removing my social media profiles, minus LinkedIn, in June 2016, I feel I'm becoming more proactive rather than reactive with the way I think and make choices. Not trashing social media users but I'd recommend taking a break, truly helps seeing things from the outside looking in. Instead of feeling left out, I prioritize the time I have to be more inclusive and open-minded towards actually making myself a better person, around my circle of friends and family as opposed to using social media to organize my plans. Drop a like if you've had a similar experience away from social media

[@Katie-t1b]

Definitely agree.

[@lilkuja7211]

But in gen-z we all self-diagnose and glorify mental disorders. Like its a personality trait to be anxious and depressed. Idk how accurate surveys like this really are... I get it tho, social media is toxic af

[@skeletalbassman1028]

I guess that's part of the problem too, though. We're creating this hive-mind that kids feel the need to join or else face the threat of social death.

[@SirAuronthehonorable]

The surveys are almost made up to prove his point. A lot of things changed which contribute to self harm. Mostly shitty parents. I’ve seen at least 100 parents in Seattle chat on their phone when babies or toddlers accidentally hurt themselves. Also the whole male vs female argument is false too. Harder to be a middle school girl than a boy? Gtfo feminist. You can be a male and be a victim of cyber bullying. You can be a female and have a black eye. A lot of this hacks data is based on gender studies which have been debunked since 2006 via a test on how MySpace affected teenagers.

[@aleon117]

PEOPLE ARE TOXIC, SOCIAL MEDIA JUST CONNECTS PEOPLE. SOCIAL MEDIA CAN DO ALOT OF GOOD AND ALOT OF HARM JUST AS ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD

[@Kilopews]

This guy is connecting dots that arent there. Mental illness is now cool, being healthy and "normal" is looked down upon. People are addicted to attention and it's pretty much as simple as that.

[@Tommy2shoe811]

People have been self diagnosing since the beginning of time that’s how drugs and alcohol were invented. It is odd how disorders are glorified now whereas before it was tightly hidden until it became obvious to others n even then only close family n friends would know.

[@jennifergrove2368]

Just watched "The Social Dilemma" and he even used that phrase in this.

[@Josh-nt1zg]

Super good movie

[@TheLastMillennials]

There you go

[@jon-vegard8386]

Man, time changes things. I grew up in the 90s, and my parents would let me walk out and about by myself at like 6-8 years old. Granted, I live in a small city, but still. Nowadays, there's so much protection. And fuck social media. One of the worst things ever created.

[@garrickhoffman9440]

When he was talking about needing legal protection for parents to allow their kids out...smh. Couldn't believe that's what we've come to. I also grew up in the 90s and, granted, in a safe town. And I remember just walking and biking all around town even at a very young age, and I don't know if my parents ever felt concerned. My brothers and I were given tremendous freedom. It breaks my heart knowing other kids won't get that "luxury."

[@jamesbra4410]

they're keeping you away from the police state that will find any reason to nab you

[@sauceysinister7924]

Honestly, it's because most parents don't MAKE them. My son was out riding his bike down the street at 10 ( because of allergies) yet, the neighborhood boys behind us would be riding about the neighborhood at 6. I know the parents. It's the parents and the community to blame. I give my child time to be on these devices and time he has to be outside for. It's simply called parenting. Maybe it's because I'm not on social media sidetracked with a fake life myself.

[@sauceysinister7924]

In the 80's I was riding a big wheel around the block by myself. By the time I got my first bike, at age 5, I was a well seasoned vet of the neighborhood. We all were.

[@pink-qx9ye]

That Joe guy should start his own podcast

[@johnny3625]

I’m almost sure he has one

[@suboopc640]

@@johnny3625 r/whooosh

[@ChandlerTingle]

Johnn y rwooooosh

[@trento9891]

Who's joe

[@gibsondanny]

@@trento9891 Dunno, But it sounds like someone who might like DMT

[@sirisongbird]

Social media is a deadly addiction. Between the desire to be fake liked, being bullied & not defended and then ostracized, shunned.

[@heatheralin3649]

I absolutely love this conversation and it really has opened my 19 year old eyes after dealing with this bs as a teenager thank you Joe for being firm in your normal beliefs and taking the knowledge from this being

[@FranklynAlvarez]

I've spent my whole public education in the 2010's with everyone around me having social media, and everything this guy says is 100% true

[@TheLastMillennials]

Sad

[@junipersnow1]

This guy is Fkn nuts... Get a hold of your own life before calling Psychologists and therapy... This same type of educated guy in the 80's was saying playing outside with groups of kids breaks up the american family and get them into Gangs and drugs... Just another bullsh*t doctor/therapist blurting out his generational bushit... Raise your kids more then you work everyday and your kids will be great ....That is for every generation.

[@dustygearhead]

Thank god i graduated high school in 2006. Got out just in time.

[@brockswisstee7767]

Social media is a big reason why the early 2000's were my favorite time. It was around but it didn't have everyone addicted to it. But those were golden years for me and my friends. Coming home from work to bong rips & mortal kombat. We just used the internet to find cool shit. It's honestly still like that today, for the most part. I just wish it was for everyone else, too.

[@huwthomas9954]

Yeah

[@ianv1253]

That shit sounds awesome man wish it was like that rn

[@mitchhammond3213]

Everything is fine until people start to abuse it

[@TheLastMillennials]

Early-mid 2000s

[@chrisbaldwin1925]

Social Media integrating itself into every single aspect of everyones lives right as they are developing their social brains.....if you learned how to socialize before you should be good.....the ones that didn't....specifically Gen Z who was teenagers at its explosion, got fucked out of that learning.....it may have broken them as functioning humans.

[@darthbobo9445]

I'm 5 years old and agree with this

[@syla-sybin]

Try not to slice yourself up bruh

[@FK-pu8hg]

I am a 4 year old and I wish you leave a better world for me.

[@sterix_gg]

I was only born last month but I agree with this too.

[@zaidkhalid3743]

@@sterix_gg nailed it!

[@bangbangyoureaboolean1324]

I'm a fetus and I agree with this.

[@bobterrwillinger4502]

Your kid is 5 in the back seat, crying their little faces off.. The only way for them to shut the fuck up is to give them an ipad or device with their favorite cartoon or game on it... That was your first mistake parents. Now 10 years later, they're insanely addicted to their devices, cannot communicate with the world cause the only thing they know for yearrrs is their phones.. You take it away, they get depressed and crazy.. Giving your child a device is essentially starting them on heroin.. Happening to my nephew right now.. Dude is so socially awkward that as soon as he feels the slightest bit weird, he's face down in his iphone, you can scream his name and he will not even recognize you're there.. Just turned 14...

[@betzabesuazo9784]

This is currently happening with my 8 year old niece. She is an only child. Every since she got her first tablet at 3 years of age, she has been spoiled and socially awkward. When she went to her first sleepover with other girls her age, she was already wanting to give up socializing with them and wanted her iPad. I saw this happen as I was a chaperone for the girls. Even now in the pandemic, my niece is struggling with online school because all she wants to do is be on her iPad!

[@meowjmeowington9076]

I’m 40. Remember the 80s as a child growing up? Street lights on come home, or at least soon after. That’s it. Building forts, playing ball tag, and Oregon Trail was the only connection I have with the computer.

[@joerogaine7984]

Social media is a tumor. But even without it, technology has made life way more complicated. Ive had an employer ask why I deleted my instagram, or theyve asked me to apply via facebook, or theres just an hour long process to go through online when applying

[@imzoinked2069]

technology has had a major impact on our work/life balance. Used to be (for the majority) you would go to work in their morning, clock in, do your shift and then clock out at the end to go home and that was it. Nowadays with everyone having a smartphone and social media, even when you're at home enjoying the little time you have for yourself, work is constantly ringing or messaging us. "Can your work this day" "can you cover this person" "we need you to come in now it's important" like social media and technology mixed with modern day work culture has completely taken over our lives and its no wonder why suicide rates are up

[@your-username-here2308]

That is not more complicated. Espacially if you look at everything that is now simpler because of it.

[@your-username-here2308]

@@imzoinked2069 But thats the fault of those Persons. Most of them say never anything against such things. Agree most of the time and do more Hours. And they let Private Life and Work Life get mixed. Espacially since there are better methods like the 40h+ Work Week.

[@jpd4]

I'm a 26 year old, so not Gen Z or a woman but I have noticed a huge change in my life, tensions are higher and harder to articulate. The obligation of "maintaining" relationships, especially those with friends of past years (high school, college, etc) and keeping them cared about is exhausting, at a certain point its healthier to not care what your old best friend is up to than to ask and "work" at producing a genuine reaction to a person that you know is well out of your loop these days. Flip phones will rule again one day lol

[@cirquedemonday]

Bang on. Sorry, that's a micro aggression. *Accurate.

[@mrniz461]

Jason Devlin Unfortunately companies are trying to bring the flip phone back but now even they have social media...

[@jpd4]

@@mrniz461 i had one up until 2 years ago, was just in the store the other day, just grab a go phone for $30> and it'll work, cant do social media on there.

[@GaiaNeh1013]

I live everything he's saying, especially the end about not trusting neighbors and as a result not letting your kids out. It is SO psychology damaging. And children aside, we've grown so isolated from one another, our sense of community, all of that. If you don't know the people on your own street and what goes about, you'll believe anything the news says about your own neighborhood. It makes our society weak and vulnerable. It's terrible.

[@J8ck_hoff]

Instagram came out in 2010 probably explains the spike

[@oksanagilroy1950]

Definitely peaked byt myspace started it then face book then twitter now its just the gram no real communication jus nonsense vids pics and girls that are hotter get more likes and followers and re post so its facebook on crack

[@blakefirsttee7653]

Should be called instadepression

[@jarnold1789]

@@oksanagilroy1950 That's a pretty great way of describing instagram, actually. I always thought of it as a tool for viewing and sharing photos, but it's hard to deny that it is Facebook on crack

[@arthurkhachatryan1302]

Ugly truth... the thing’s changed the world

[@chinese_bot]

@@oksanagilroy1950 speaking of myspace, in america in the mid 2000's (2005 - 2008 roughly) amongst teenagers it was seen as cool to be self destructive on myspace. imagery of razorblades and self harm wasn't all that uncommon on myspace, it really fed into the "emo / scene phase" social media had amongst teenagers at the time. it influenced not only myspace but a lot of my friends.

[@whitenbald]

*ANOTHER ANXIETY MECHANISM FROM SOCIAL MEDIA/PHONES/LAPTOPS IN GENERAL* I'm a 22 year old male and I have had anxiety and dealt quite well with it. Recently I've realised the reason why I've had anxiety and it's all to do with my thoughts racing and not being able to be at ease with them. Mindulfulness/meditation and exercise has helped a lot, but the main thing that helped was realising WHY these have helped me, especially the former! Mindfulness is taking a step back and noticing your thoughts without any obligation to chase or suppress them, you're at ease with your mind. THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIAL MEDIA/PHONES/LAPTOPS is that while you're on them, your mind is racing unnaturally AND without you noticing. THIS IS HUGE and no one else seems to have figured it out yet but I think it's extremely important for general anxiety sufferers like me. If I go on my phone first thing in the morning or when I should be resting my mind, I notice my anxiety/panicking is worse. I recommend for anyone is suffering with anxiety takes a week or so off instagram and facebook etc., seriously try it if you really want your anxiety to get better. Try it, what have you got to lose? Just do it.

[@Stevethethird677]

Jack W Do you take ADHD medication, by any chance?

[@whitenbald]

@@Stevethethird677 I don't, should I be? Lol

[@Stevethethird677]

@@whitenbald Lol nope, it's an often occurring thing for people of our generation to take medication like Ritalin or Adderall. I have experienced that it elevates your social skills temporarily, followed by a tremendous decrease in them. In my opinion, the best cures for social anxiety are: working out, eating healthy, avoiding caffeine and socialise as often as possible.

[@whitenbald]

@@Stevethethird677 Yeah I've never taken it but when I was at uni I knew some people who did it to focus better when studying or something. But yeah I totally agree with those four things! Caffeine gets me a bit on edge and too aware of things.

[@KEVENSIN]

I just look at memes

[@alexandrabelloso2176]

As a Gen Z girl, I see how social media has deeply affected me and my generation, and it got to the point where I wouldn't use social media at all to avoid feeling so bad about myself and it did work. But when I moved countries, I had to be on social media to check in with my friends, and I just watched as the whole vicious cycle of self-pitying and self-hatred started all over again.. At least now there's tons of accounts and people who speak on the importance of body-positivity and self-love, but I just can't help to think how many lives would be different if since decades ago we would've focused on loving oneself and not comparing ourselves to others...

[@TheLastMillennials]

Fortnite kids need better guidance

[@alexandrabelloso2176]

@@TheLastMillennials lmao fortnite sucks

[@juliecostello42]

It's not to diminish what you are stating, but many of the self love channels you are speaking of, don't forget that while I am not knocking you at all for what you are doing (it's good for you and positive) please remember that those girls are also in it to generate revenue. You need to learn how to really care about you and love yourself. While searching self care channels is good for you, take steps to learn how you can independently feel good about yourself irregardless of "tuning into the channel" or not. Be safe be well, I don't know you but you sound like an intelligent girl, stay strong.

[@alexandrabelloso2176]

@@juliecostello42 Thank you so much for your comment! I am aware that most of those channels are money-driven but it's still a good place to start. I do think therapy and other self-help methods are better tho. It's just that most ppl don't have the money or time for that, so maybe reading a quick post on insta or whatever can help lift your spirits a bit, at least in that moment. But I completely understand and agree with what you're saying.

[@jazminhdz8073]

Im milennial now working and same i left social media cause lately it has become weird and i could keep woth bad feelings, noww best feeling ever im even more productive

[@shanuv12]

This guy is so calm and collective in his demeanor. I m very impressed.

[@pathacker4963]

I think it started with the offshoring of jobs in the 90s. Kids then had to focus on SATs from preschool on and no longer chose their fields of study based on their skills and interests, but on how much money they could make. At the same time tv was inundated with reality programming based on voting the other guy off the island. Then came social media in the 2000s and bullying became so much easier. Give middle schoolers flip phones until High School. You don't let kids drive until they are 16.

[@trashmike7642]

*Shows Joe a graph* "It looks like a bmx ramp"

[@eksquisite]

i havent talked to a happy person for years and when im enthusiastic about sth around these people i get looked at weirdly like im ruining their vibe with positivity, whats wrong with people

[@nuclearpugg]

Well massive inequality and global warming really makes people feel under the weather. You should be thankful there aren't riots everyday there is nothing wrong with the people they are just slowly realizing the American dream is a sham

[@queend9604]

maybe find different people, as happy people do still exist.

[@toluadek]

This is my life story, I can't be positive around people because it feels like I'm bullying and intimidating them.

[@solidus_spence]

@@nuclearpugg ok

[@bobcampbell2182]

@@toluadek Be positive! You touch lives when you are. You are showing them a light! Do not demand they see this light, It will find them in time.

[@izzybelisle3550]

I wasn’t allowed social media but I also wasn’t allowed going outside and having friends. I feel that if I at least had one of them I would be in a better mental space

[@jasonl9266]

I think it's a lonely time for kids and adults . Also it's quite sad that kids are consuming the same content as adults now a days . The kids are like tiny adults these days . Very sad !

[@teallevi823]

So true

[@adgato75]

I agree it's a very lonely time. But kids have always consumed adult content if they could .

[@ericventuroso3544]

Back then you'd probably see pitchforks and torches for those scrambled screen channels I heard about as a kid, but these days parents giving their kids phones...naw, just naw....

[@ordinaryguy815]

What kind of content?

[@resurrectedbard]

@@ordinaryguy815 Video games, memes, porn, everything on the internet really.

[@MRFREZZESLUSH]

Tried to show my grandmother the interview and there’s a f bomb like 30 seconds in fml

[@risavsahu4666]

Aw man lmao I hope you still got her to watch the whole thing cuz these 21 minutes are absolute gold to people of any age group

[@oro3510]

My mom made me stop having my phone in my room shortly after I got an iphone at 12. I was furious at her and didn’t understand why but as i’m about to start college, finally done with middle school and high school, age 18 I realize why she did it. Social media really ruined so much of my life and screwed up so many things that could have been awesome, but because of social media I was sad or thinking about how great everyone else’s life is and mine isn’t. I still struggle with it today, sometimes I need to force myself off of instagram because all I can see is people on expensive vacations, beautiful girls with clear skin, everyone’s really expensive drinks, their big houses with pools, etc. It puts me in this mindset where I think, “my life sucks.” because I don’t have that. And it’s engrained in my mind! This guy is totally right.!

[@Will_uziii]

same . Just makes me grind harder we gotta be in that 1%

[@nickd2296]

The worst part about social media is that it creates a false atmosphere of positivity because everyone posts the good times and rarely the bad times.

[@kennethjose7159]

2005 I was 15 when my parents got me my own phone. My requirements were text, call and play music. I was so happy by just getting those

[@TheLastMillennials]

2005 was great for me

[@forman208]

Your phone played music in 2005?

[@kennethjose7159]

@@forman208 yup. It was the Ericsson W800

[@neeloss1]

i've no idea who jonathan haidt is, but he has the calmest, friendliest voice i've ever heard, and he's making perfect sense.

[@thefilmcubano]

He completely lost Joe when he said he lets his 9 year old daughter out to run errands lol

[@tangerinetech5300]

yeah cause thats fucking insane. i dont give a shit if you can track her or not.

[@JD-my5ek]

@@tangerinetech5300 I mean I bet she will be a better human because of it.

[@tangerinetech5300]

@@JD-my5ek I honestly can say the possible social benifits don't outweigh the obvious risks of letting your nine year old walk through a city alone.

[@JD-my5ek]

@@tangerinetech5300 True theres definitely a balance. It depends on what you're worried about, if its abduction or some other violent crime, then I think the chances of that happening are so miniscule. He said they live in a part of the city that is incredibly safe. I'd be more worried about not looking for cars or trucks crossing the street or something like that. Also he is right that 8 - 12 year olds weren't so bubble wrapped throughout history as they are now

[@ominousplatypus380]

Where I'm from that is completely normal. Is it so unsafe in the US that kids can't go outside alone?

[@TenThumbsProductions]

This dude! Dropping good stuff.

[@safir2241]

Oh shit you’re here!

[@austinshackelford1036]

I think this is one of the most important clips to ever come out of this show. As a person who grew up smack dab in the middle of the social media in middle school wave( born in 98) this video is spot on and this should be commonplace showing to parents of young children.