Joe Rogan on TJ Dillashaw Testing Positive for EPO

Taken from JRE MMA Show #61:
• JRE MMA Show #61 with ...

[@brennonolson7962]

The reason TJ was so mad at the stoppage was because he knew he was on EPO and would recover lol

[@AXharoth]

great point

[@manunuhg7162]

Damn lmfaoooo , good one

[@jameschatterton8628]

On epo and STILL got smoked

[@AXharoth]

proves that epo doesnt make you win fights @@jameschatterton8628

[@MarkRai-ko1sk]

@@AXharoth No, it only makes you win 7 tours de France. Weak shit if you ask me.

[@fortunecollector]

Tj dilllashaw is the type of dude to get a snake tattoo after being called a snake in the grass. Next tattoo will be of a needle

[@georgethedetailer]

Damn kimmy

[@igson-in4rd]

@tryip didn't he go to a school in America actually?

[@np494609]

KIM JONG UN real talk bro I'm laughing

[@StormyMeadow750]

Also to call his team "The Snakes" on TUF

[@squonch2532]

Jacob Sirak its injectable only. thats why its so serious because u know he chose to inject it it wasnt no tainted supplement

[@kerron68]

"Everyone is on steroids." - Nate Diaz

[@jesuschristcunt8469]

@latxa yes it is

[@DarkApe117]

I think Nate was a lil bitter.

[@notkingali1798]

A Dark Future no they were saying the truth, of course not EVERYONE is on steroids and etc, but a lot of people in the UFC are on.

[@Zvs99j]

@@notkingali1798 Almost everyone (if not everyone) in every sport in the top division is on PEDs what are you talking about just accept it.

[@AslanW]

They are though.

[@Fireflame1229]

Wasn't nick diaz banned 5 years for weed lol

[@rickyvasquez9018]

That wasn't USADA. It was nsac who was banning him.

[@reggierightwing5076]

Ya what joke eh 😂

[@hamschh]

Yep you can shoot people on your property but you can't smoke a plant . Lolol

[@starcraftyschannel1926]

Yes it was ridiculous, and probably the real reason Nick doesn't want to come back, they revised it down to a year or whatever but we haven't seen him fight since.

[@spacentime77]

So fucked lol

[@foff6895]

All the while diaz bros just want to smoke weed and fight.

[@pabskingofswing7540]

Hahaha

[@codyrinehart5479]

Idk why ufc dont give money to those bros

[@herecomesthecrimsonchin239]

F Off they used to want to fight now nick diaz lives in vegas snorting lines off thots and nate just plays on twitter

[@ntemekafou9254]

@@codyrinehart5479 165 belt with diaz and poirier(or maybe rda-masvidal)was a pretty dope idea,and only dana doesnt want that.

[@herecomesthecrimsonchin239]

Ntemek Afou diaz lost his last fight why should he fight for a belt 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@EKnowledge1]

Why does herb sit like he's about to get up and leave 😂

[@jgonzalez20]

Cause Herb defends himself at all times. ALL times.

[@bunnyhunter264]

@@jgonzalez20 Get your weapons together.

[@LudiCrust.]

@@jgonzalez20 funny you say that my uncle is a retired Navy SEAL and ALWAYS sits/stands in a certain way with his hands & arms in a defensive posture. He even does it at family get togethers. My dad and their brothers all make fun of him for it but he can’t turn it off. He’ll put his arms down when they’re needling him but within a minute they’re back up to where they were.

[@samuelboyd4760]

early stoppage -Derrick Lewis

[@glock_9ine956]

Lol 😂

[@bedtimemma]

Tj *"it just sucks to fail a drug test for piss. i doped SO HARD for this fight. so hard."* Dillashaw

[@christianthomsen1257]

Haha good one mate

[@dlcook5150]

Nice one! Two year suspension is not enough.

[@FunkMastaMegaFlex]

Lol. Brutal.

[@planetruth5411]

hangman18x lol

[@planetruth5411]

125 lbs Killashaw see now I’m cryin

[@arewestilldoingphrasing6490]

Here to remind everyone that Henry Cejudo is an olympic gold medalist

[@gerardo689]

Are we Still doing Phrasing He didn’t win it with a broken freakin neck though

[@beenjamminbuttons7771]

gerardo689 spinal

[@packlesswolf1]

Fuck Henry. Hes a racist

[@mixalis6168]

Just shows how good Henry is, he steamrolled Juiceashaw @

[@jimduggan8314]

He's on even more juice @@mixalis6168

[@balinoruo]

Hey Joe. I'm a cancer patient with low counts, and I get an epoetin alfa shot once a week to increase my red blood cell counts enough, to give a unit of blood a week for iron chelation. And the first few shots I had of it, were seriously crazy. It felt as if my blood was infused with oxygen, and gave me a serious oxygen high. Like I was drunk on oxygen. When your counts are super low for a long time, and you get a hit with a shot of that stuff, it's really crazy how great it is. And my doctor is super careful about my red blood cell count every time I get a shot. We HAVE to take a unit of blood, with every shot weekly, or my red cell count would get too high. Your blood being like 'paint' analogy was really spot on. I have iron overload, and the epo shot 'sucks up' iron in my body also, when your body produces a red blood cell, it requires two molecules of iron to make, keeping it from settling in my organs. And I give a unit of blood, to bleed me slowly and reduce my iron overload. Really interesting stuff. I suggest that UFC fighters be very careful with it, and don't overdo it. It might help you short term, but long term, it's probly not good for you at all, especially at high levels like DJ sounds like he was taking. Probly not a good idea.

[@willmelikyan5689]

Beautiful comment, hope you’re doing better

[@technicaIIyspeaking]

you just waster your last minutes typing paragraphs to a guy joe that will never read it

[@Jake-ml8li]

Who asked

[@upppttib1093]

So strange to finally put a Voice on Herb Dean 😂

[@damon2a102]

ibitzOiu bitoiu it's not the voice i thought he would of had, so disappointed. 🙉

[@SeanSKZ]

How new are you guys to this sport?

[@upppttib1093]

@@SeanSKZ wrong question you wanna say how fanboy are you enough to search Herb Dean interviews on KZbin ❗ I watch PPV since PPV first starter ! Take yo fanboy/groopie vibes to other top comments

[@SeanSKZ]

@@upppttib1093 I was asking out of curiosity no need for the toxic reply. Btw if you've been watching fights for that long you know herb talks in almost every fight he refs right?

[@SeanSKZ]

@@upppttib1093 great job 😂😂 let's do it!

[@thekingofbrazil88]

Joe: Tj was on steroids Also joe: Jon has never done steroids Also joe: Yoel is a genetic freak

[@abdiyyy7460]

Pick and choose😂😂😂

[@johnknoneborg]

Yoel is a genetic freak but he also does steroids

[@georgeatkey1755]

To be fair, with Jon he never had high enough levels to indicate it was anything but a tainted supplements

[@antman1118855]

Joe Changes his views depending on who's sitting in front of him

[@deanveni638]

Barring steroids, Yoel is still a genetic freak. Think of Mr. Olympia competitors, yeah they’re on steroids and juiced to the gills but fucking hell if they aren’t genetic freaks on top of that. You can give all the steroids and coaching to your average Joe in the world, and they’ll never end up as athletic/explosive as Yoel Romero or as big as Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath etc

[@joenorfolk7627]

Joe “cheating taints your legacy” Rogan - but still thinks Jon Jones is the best fighter ever 🤔

[@bhaviksolanki4947]

He's biased

[@joncokejones9318]

Joe Norfolk TJ is no where even close to how good is Jon Jones

[@johnwalker4606]

Dude this is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard your just so unintelligent it's stunning

[@coreythomas9906]

Tainted legacy or not, there has never been a fighter on the level of Jon Jones.

[@KRG-Unit]

@@coreythomas9906 he is the perfect fighter. Balanced in his striking and wrestling, has a massive wingspan, and is balanced in speed, technique, and power. The only person in his way is himself. Gustafsson physically is the only fighter able to take him.

[@Goated77762]

Dominick Cruz’s win against TJ who was using EPO is probably the most insane win of all time now. For those that don’t know, Cruz was out for over 2 years and had multiple knee reconstructions in the lead up to that.

[@agfb4039]

Luke Chapman PREACH!!

[@coreygolphenee9633]

@@jaxsonlee10 dude do you know HOW MUCH it helps with your cardio, dude your blood is race gas you literally have more cells to carry more oxygen than the other guy, the USPS dudes had to get up at 3am and get on there bike or they are gonna die

[@jaccobgonzalez5239]

WOW

[@raptureready9738]

Steroids only can do so much. They dont make u super human

[@jeremytorrey2096]

USADA went back and tested previous samples and he was clear only popped for the Cejudo fight.

[@mshrwm]

The entire lead up to the fight tj talked about being clean knowing he was cheating, a true snake

[@jmiahrealone]

I know right. What a fucc head

[@joshuawhite7515]

So is Cody. Even Cody fucked up and said that tj showed all them in alfa male how to do it

[@calogerogriffin861]

@@joshuawhite7515 nah,i didnt think cody using any peds

[@UnderSizedBigfoot]

he went from getting koed stiff to supposedly being undefeated being in team alpha male... I wouldn't be Suprised

[@Jomac87]

He's always been a snake. Small little twerp who doesn't belong in MMA!!!

[@thrillio1430]

Herb Dean is way much more then just 'a ref' , always been.

[@theolschoolblues]

ok. explain why... in detail.... ACTUAL DETAIL! don't fucking just post what fights he judged. that doesn't mean shit. What ACTUALLY makes him even a little better than any other ref?

[@forresterpp]

David Walkenstein herb dean is cool as fuck

[@sugawolf1592]

David Walkenstein he actually competed in MMA before becoming a ref.. is that good enough for you??

[@travismartin4863]

@@theolschoolblues he's competed in mma my dude. That alone makes him the best

[@kommi1974]

"than", not "then". IDIOT.

[@solxplosion1978]

It's a damn shame... this fool just threw his whole legacy away. All recent wins must be questioned.

[@MyEnemy]

Doubtful, we live in the age of Jon Jones, after all.

[@solxplosion1978]

MyEnemy yeah, but, EPO helps cardio like a muhfucka. Maybe I'm caught in the moment but I feel EPO gives a fighter more of an advantage than Steroids.

[@dr.cornbread3299]

Hominid Music of course it does, a fighter on EPO could probably have the stamina to fight 10 rounds without slowing down

[@CluedUp23]

MyEnemy he had no legacy that’s why he did the EPO in the first place. Guy got slept by Dodson FFS. If anything it effects Cody’s Legacy

[@russellward4624]

He probably wouldn’t have had a legacy at all without them. Fighters don’t all of a sudden take PED’d when they are champs. They’re using them the entire time.

[@teddyjacksonwave8776]

BRUCE BUFFER: And our referee in charge for the tonight's action *HERB DEAN*

[@zleggitt1989]

Why did I read that as Bruce buffer?

[@mapexmurderer7249]

zleggitt1989 Same 😄

[@bennyhath1789]

His name needs more syllables for a dramatic intro😂

[@josiahgalloway5046]

zleggitt1989 same 😂😂😂😂

[@AlexanyanV1]

Teddy Jackson Wave 😐 🙏

[@Pianosnail12]

There's a conspiracy that Henry melted down his gold medal and injected it just before the TJ fight

[@C4ioPereira20]

"I do a lot of juicing" "I juice every day"

[@weilzudope]

that was the funniest thing listening to after the fact

[@C4ioPereira20]

@Dead by 6ixx yeah Mohajed got it from joe rogans episode with TJ

[@jonathanwilberding7060]

@Dead by 6ixx You know Jon Jones is telling USADA The drugs everybody's taking now days that's how he gets off

[@Shadowrun2589]

Go spurs !

[@hankthecowgirl]

Go spurs !

[@mishelo]

*tj dillashaw testing positive for epo* Joe:He should try out dmt

[@lickmygooch1013]

Squidward a buddy of mine does dmt

[@MaynardOwns]

@@lickmygooch1013 the spongebob Tek is the best Tek.

[@lickmygooch1013]

MaynardOwns wtf are you talking about 😂

[@MaynardOwns]

@@lickmygooch1013 I didn't realise you were the guy you replying to user name is Squidward. I'm used to clicking reply so I get the auto tag. I read the comment like Squidward, my buddy does dmt. My friend named Squidward does dmt. So I was saying SpongeBob's dmt pull Tek is the best tek. But now that I notice your friends name isn't Squidward the sad attempt at a joke isn't relevant

[@billyjackcurtis4680]

@@MaynardOwns loooooool

[@Anonymous.android]

There's one thing for sure.... Conor has definitely never taken EPO. He could do with some though!

[@kevinsmoon3257]

😂😂

[@AXharoth]

lmao

[@CastHub]

Sureeee

[@devlenkuschel9056]

@T Uu 🤣🤣🤣

[@NamasteHome_]

Imiagine if Connor was on EPO, he wouldn't run out of stamina as fast. Whoa!

[@C_The_Guy]

No wonder TJ felt like he could keep going after the Henry stoppage..

[@SyncXydii]

c 😂😂😂😂

[@AlexandertheGreat033]

Same with the Cody fight. Before his knockout he was almost out. Totally was EPOs, make sense.

[@DChappelle27]

Joe "I want to be Bradley Cooper in Limitless" Rogan

[@danp1471]

Shit who wouldnt? Well I haven't seen it in a while so I don't remember if it was a happy ending or not but fuck it, it would still be amazing as hell.

[@MarkRai-ko1sk]

@@danp1471 Happy ending if becoming addicted to drugs is a good thing (which clearly, in that shit movie it was lmao). He probably taught himself how to make the wonderdrug and created a metric ton of it (it's not explicit in the movie if that's what happened but he's clearly on some smart shit in the end scene).

[@miyukizoku9990]

Steve Rogers been on EPO since day one, and all the while reppin' the American flag lmao

[@wrxrob2589]

I want my hero’s on EPO!

[@mgway4661]

I say let the military use it! War isn't a fair fight, nor should it be

[@Shakethatbadboy]

Drugs are bad. Mmmkay? - USADA

[@mariomejia5877]

Bro this username hahah

[@ripneighborhoodniprip8303]

I didn't lose or take performance-enhancing drugs nice user pic and name👍🏾

[@Shakethatbadboy]

Lee Haters gonna hate. Why you jelly? Did get pissed on by r-kelly?

[@beenjamminbuttons7771]

Lee weird comma flex but okay

[@robdo4046]

bro that username 😂😂😂

[@johnboy5355]

EPO is the Ludwig secret sauce lmao

[@erko78]

johnboy5355 ludwig?

[@billybadass8242]

Ludwig is his coach dumb dumbs

[@ummerkasana]

@@erko78 Duane "Bang" Ludwig, former UFC fighter and now coach

[@gavintifler4606]

It’s Bryan isn’t it 🤣

[@wardogMMA]

nah its not Ludwig.. its the cali strength coach dude i guess

[@jacoby310]

Looking back now, EPO looks like it played a roll in TJ being able to recover from that punch he took from Cody at the end of the round. He got knocked bad and when he recovered then finished Cody I remember being like "damn he looked totally refreshed and recovered after that break that's impressive as fuck"

[@rickysmith6041]

I’m just going to inform you. When your body lifts weights, it tears the muscle. Over the next day your body recovers. It builds the muscle back even stronger, that’s how training is done. If you train the same muscle everyday (do bench press everyday) you won’t get stronger because your body needs time to rest. The way steroids like testosterone work is they make your body recover quicker, so you train more, and build more muscle. When he was saying it has some anabolic properties increasing recovery time, he saying this because he’s referring to anabolic steroids. He’s specifying this because epo is for endurance but he’s saying it also has effects like anabolic steroids So now you know what he meant by “recovering”

[@yakintekie4300]

Sad thing is that he's probably gonna be back before Cruz 😑

[@dry_water9226]

That breaks my heart, Cruz beat a juiced up TJ

[@jnava121]

He will get another win before cody does too

[@franciscoverdugo4021]

Cody beat an injured cruz

[@dry_water9226]

Cruz is officially The GOAT at 135

[@jmiahrealone]

U right. Cruz ain’t gonna be back thou he talks about it. He’s done. He’s the real life Mr. Glass

[@cartrewarren7635]

This sucks. Coming from a T.J. fan. Puts everything into question.

[@keyser_söze23]

Snap. Barão must be pissed...

[@CesarM780]

It's over

[@taylorboyd7463]

If you’re an mma fan and want to watch clean fighters you’re shit out of luck. Who cares? They are gladiators. Let them build however they see fit. In the end it’s their life that’s shortened.

[@lickmygooch1013]

Cartre Warren I never knew tj had fans

[@taylorboyd7463]

Luc if you’re buying the Plane ticket...what am I scared some dude is gonna fight me for speaking the truth? Especially someone with shit to lose like a professional athlete? Lol. You named one person who *MIGHT* be all natural and missed the point.

[@jeremyjames7147]

"doesnt take away from how amazing he was" it absolutely fucking does are you kidding me

[@chancedraper6867]

Joe “I’ve had a really amazing conversation with many people” Rogan

[@rubbishman2816]

Chance Draper haha I read this just as he said it lmao !

[@jaythefirst2841]

Urban Adventure time lol same

[@Chance-ry1hq]

Joe is stoned out of his mind. Herb is thinking this dude needs to be tested.

[@oloading9539]

Chance1957 😂😂😂😂

[@swiatlowiekuiste]

Thought the same thing 😁

[@eQNoxious]

The fighter from France ..... you mean Francis Ngannou LMAO

[@lifewithanxietyeveryday5897]

Herb smokes too sooo.

[@ryancase8858]

Chance1957 it looks like Herb smoked too.

[@lunashustle1637]

What if we had a division where juiced out athlete fought each other 😂

[@thecarwashcompanyusa]

Guadalupe Luna it’s called Bellator

[@Da5kone001]

It’s called any fight

[@keffka00]

That will be dangerous. Fighters does not know when they can't take anymore

[@ChaseAcheck408]

hockey 🏒

[@ChaseAcheck408]

@@Da5kone001 huh you must not have been in many fights. the average Joe doesn't take steriods unless you're fighting outside a gym only

[@flozzy69]

Is it just me or does Rogan look in every single scene more stoned??? 😂

[@ralphjohnson6149]

flozzy69 maybe you the one getting more stoned

[@JulianSollenskog]

He does look pretty stoned in this clip. But he varies in stoned-ness given that well...that's how being stoned works.

[@tompaterson220]

I was about to write the exact same comment lol

[@mapexmurderer7249]

Sounds like Herb got cottonmouth too lol

[@ChillPill365]

"Every single scene"? I think you're the one smoking.

[@javed6151]

Legend has it.steroids helped tj to the corner in the first fight.

[@keyserscarecrow835]

Ahha

[@Datniccaboy]

Epo helps your cardio, cardio helps with recovery. So yeah maybe

[@akselkarlsson5229]

It is funny because it is true.

[@davidtuttle7556]

@@Datniccaboy not just recovery. Ability to maintain pace or work rate too.

[@Daniel-yo5es]

epo is not a steroid... it's a red blood cell producer.

[@ryan-hg2dc]

joe " I wanna try EPO" rogan

[@Eden0nEarth]

Made me lol

[@mustbeart3372]

I fucking laughed hahah

[@GB-ik5dq]

Snake in the grass

[@LiquidRush]

Walking talking adam & eve-level snake

[@LakersFanSinceJulyst]

sup little boy, you lost?

[@swervo_ent5403]

Just keep mowin it 🤷‍♂️😂

[@JackSmith-qb7tg]

Michael Bisping's record would be interesting if they could test retroactively and rewrite the history books.

[@niklasw1956]

wait are u high? Bisping is probably the only one not juicing xD every fight he lost was against juiceheads, he's always been campaigning against it. FACT CHECKS

[@luismarques3841]

KonQelLOL that’s what he means genius

[@JackSmith-qb7tg]

@@niklasw1956I'm on your side mate. That is what I meant, his losses are to questionable opponents, like Chael, TRT Vitor, Wanderlei and Hendo. All incredible fighters but have dodgy pasts with PEDs. Pretty sure Tim Kennedy would be a clean fighter.

[@niklasw1956]

well shit, great point then LUL @@JackSmith-qb7tg

[@Giove83]

Luís Otávio Silva Marques lol 😂

[@deanburgess63]

Herb dean is one of the calmest coolest brothers of all time I love that guy!

[@sbailey7334]

People out there have gotten tattoos of TJ’s portrait lol

[@cflo1386]

You've got to be kidding.

[@peeweejj]

Really? Smdh

[@rebelruthless3781]

Yeah I am one of them and TJ is Innocent. Just watch you slanderers. God Will Prove THEE Innocent

[@Drimil3]

@@rebelruthless3781 rofl

[@MCompetitione]

Including himself lmaooooo. Hopefully they left some space to add in the steroid needle

[@CO_-]

The first pee of the morning is used a lot in the medical field because it has the highest concentration.

[@sourdiesel9193]

👍acumalates in liver at rest.

[@OhChroniqz]

Miles Davidson also the pissiest taste

[@rebelruthless3781]

I Piss in my Own ASS sear l swear to God

[@Qnzbryant]

Never take a piss test in the morning.

[@Mugsey1984]

Shout out to Machida

[@mally2439]

Joe reminded me off the mad king from GOT when he said test them all😂😂

[@goated6146]

I feel really bad for cody bro that loss killed his hype tbh.

[@VinceG18]

I don’t like Cody. He’s fake.

[@packlesswolf1]

@@VinceG18 yeah I agree. Cody is a little bitch

[@wrxrob2589]

Vince Greco Least he’s clean

[@soanywayistartedblastin8463]

@@packlesswolf1 lil bitch that doesn't need to cheat like a fucking grongo

[@razelhamnirif]

Cody would be a bantamweight GOAT if he had the IQ to fight every fight like the Dominick Cruz fight and *never* swing to finish a rocked but not downed opponent. Three times he lost the same fight.

[@edgarjakes5055]

Joe is in love with idea yoel isnt on steroids 😂

[@Havre_Chithra]

Yea. There is no way he isn’t taking something.

[@educatedscum5306]

Why does he do this lol

[@azysheff]

Nah I think Joe knows.... he’s not naive... taking steroids doesn’t mean u don’t have crazy genes tho.. that’s the point he was making is Yoel has crazy genetics and u can’t deny that there is people out there that can get to Yoels shape and size by committing a life to training and working out, and Joe definitely knows Yoel has probably used PEDs in the past just by his comments in this vid

[@War_Maker]

Even if he's on roids, the average guy on roids would never look like him. Yoel has insane genetics.

[@kushweiser]

Jon Jones nah even above average athletes on roids would still get killed by Romero and not look as good, even if they did they would be sloppy roidheads that arent athletic as romero especially at his age. I doubt he takes roids since he passed most of his tests.

[@codychandler8930]

The drug policy in baseball is now 81 games for first positive 162 for a 2nd and 3rd equals lifetime ban.

[@ChillyCorpse]

Cody Chandler okay

[@forresterpp]

Cody Chandler no its not

[@codychandler8930]

@@forresterpp It is.

[@MarkRai-ko1sk]

So they gotta test positive 81 times the first time, then 162 times the second time then after that is a lifetime ban. Gotcha.

[@codychandler8930]

@@MarkRai-ko1sk no if you test once positve its 81 game suspension.

[@chefboiarty]

Should have been an eye opener when John Dodson can starch him with a shot that didn’t even land clean, but Cody Garbrandt hits him with a KO shot to the chin and he can just get up & by the time the next round starts he’s already good to go. IMO he probably started using EPO right after that Dodson fight, because after that is when he started straight murking people. Cody warned us that TJ was/is on EPO and people thought it was Cody just blowin smoke.

[@np494609]

ChefBoiArty dude you just read tjs soul, I am friends with mike Easton who he beat on his meteoric rise and starched via decision and knew that dude was on something I mean cut through Cody who blasted Dominick Cruz, plus I've trained with mike he's a bad dude too so I agree with you

[@garrycoates2147]

Not so fast guys . Eerythropoietin (EPO) has neuroprotective activities that include suppression of cellular inflammatory conditions, inhibiting apoptosis, and improving cerebrovascular function, and it may enhance recovery by stimulating neurogenesis.... Refer Treatment of Mild Traumatic Brain Injury: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3653382/ And even if the recovery time is too short for this to effect, somebody on EPO has energy to burn. So potentially keeping themselves out of trouble for their head to clear.

[@panchoperfulcro8708]

@@garrycoates2147 Jesus, fucking preach. Best answer to any question I have read this year. Thanks you for the insight Mr Coates!

[@sohell1992]

@@garrycoates2147 Finally a guy who bothered to do some actual research. Thanks brother.

[@UnicornmooseE30]

@@garrycoates2147 great reply

[@Xd9mm]

Joe should have the same energy for Jon Jones testing positive

[@foff6895]

He specifically said "the ufc didnt want him to fail" Its pretty clear whats going on.

[@hesaidchest]

@L 1 He didn't got tested for anything new because he's still in the same old shit that he was caught with 2 years ago and that's the excuse he uses for microdosing smh

[@hesaidchest]

@L 1 I'm not defending TJ, i'm saddened that he cheated, yes, but it's life, he's not in GOAT discussion anymore, now don't give Jon Jones any "Hey man, others cheat so it's fine Jon to cheat" excuse, because Jon can now cheat forever and they will never blink a eye at his results, because he can always have 40 picograms per 1 ml of blood all times because "lol xd pulsating"

[@TimSaidthat]

@@hesaidchest I get what you're saying. Cheating is cheating, but t-bol and Epo are 2 completely different things. T-bol COULD come from tainted supplements and most experts say a micro dose would have little to no sports enhancing effects. Epo on the other hand HAS to be injected and has massive benefits. Meaning TJ knew and wanted to cheat. He's been doing it for a while too.

[@N-e-o1]

Yes, Joe should come with the same energy, not 30% of his energy towards Jones.

[@OnkelUfo]

EPO stops you from getting tired. It produces red blood cells, giving enhanced oxygen transportation to muscles, giving them more oxygen and thus makes you less tired. I've never heard of anyone using EPO during training, but in bicycle sports its used alot for those big races. Also, fun fact, the detection of EPO was once simply a too high concentration of red blood cells in the bloodstream.

[@coreygolphenee9633]

The people in this comment section that think steroids are worse are insane

[@derekjayyy]

It’s crazy to think would TJ have been able to recover after being dropped by Cody in the first round of their first fight without being on EPO? He clearly won after that, but it may have never reached that point without PEDs

[@swag2853]

I think he wouldn’t be able to recover without the EPO. Cody got snubbed

[@Ghostface_xX]

Im sure Cody was on EPO as well

[@samidhchoudhury5809]

Meanwhile Diaz gets banned for Marijuana

[@travismaes486]

Geez mr. Bob lmao

[@matthewscully1763]

That was NSAC not USADA.

[@nopenope9023]

@Mr. Bob bet you know

[@philldavis6550]

also what you do is give a leniency period prior to USADA and make that the cut off point for retroactive tests, unless you wanna boot half or more of the roster

[@kyle1732]

Herb is the man

[@WhatTheyWant]

Creepy Kyle WRONG

[@beenjamminbuttons7771]

Vino if I hated my kid I would have the last name Thomas

[@WhatTheyWant]

@Vino "hello youtube I'm Vino, And i have a small penis."

[@milton_nolimit_cr]

TJ Dillaroid

[@JerseyMiller]

Lol

[@taylorboyd7463]

Milton BS-COC-CR most underrated comment in the thread my dude. Haha

[@13Doses]

That works. Lol.

[@A.T.Sickzer]

Hangin with da Roids

[@dry_water9226]

Cruz is officially The GOAT at 135

[@GuyFromTheSouth]

Triple C is the goat of all

[@anycolouryoulike8567]

@@GuyFromTheSouth the cringe midget?

[@starfish69420]

Always was

[@CrashMaster]

@@anycolouryoulike8567 yea the cringe midget is the best right now

[@TandJgaming]

There was never any question about it, Cruz has always been the goat.

[@whitedawn215]

Such a shame, so much doubt over any of his wins now.

[@GoatPopsicle]

Jaymes Gabrielli Especially with years of accusations. TAM should have all their old samples tested. Maybe Cody has been been right the whole time, and TJ has been the Lance Armstrong of the gym the whole time.

[@raww999]

you say that like this is a clean sport.You take the train or you'll be left behind

[@rune-mma]

Wait i thought he only used epo against henry?

[@ramonbriones4487]

no doubt..Joe said they also tested a sample from the Cody fight and also came out dirty..u honestly think he's been clean and all of a sudden he feels he needs to use? lol..cmon now

[@johnathan5291]

Ozzieboy32 they have new epo testing, it seems he’s been doing it for a while

[@chrokeii]

This explains how TJ recovered so easily after cutting to 125

[@Jorge863Fla]

chrokeii & after nearly getting ko’d by Cody. dude literally got off the stool like the beginning of the 1st round

[@younmola5224]

Guy I’m going to say this once steroids make u get angry when you get hit and YOU DO. Recover faster the main comment is correct

[@younmola5224]

T Uu bro these guys didn’t make it to the elite of the elite by not having the key components to start with professional sports is a game of inches and those drugs give you meters not inches the difference is noticeable

[@istudios7637]

p

[@imdaboogyman815]

Cannot help but think about all the talk he did on JRE about his next level training....

[@jamesortega7611]

Nate Diaz everybody’s on steroids💪🏼😂💉

[@fab8004]

beefcake502 TJ?

[@jamesortega7611]

beefcake502 Nate Diaz Nate everybody’s on steroids💪🏼😂💉

[@jugglingtaxibikeride2170]

James Ortega Juggling Taxi Nate Diaz is not on steroids your crazy 😜.

[@peterpetigrew2869]

LIKE EVERYONE IN NATE DIAZ'S CAMP 😂😂😂😂

[@smashleyscott8272]

EPO isnt a steroid. Most PEDs arent steroids.

[@benburns9090]

The funny thing is he will be back before Conor agrees to a fight

[@VieteWalk]

Funny thing you will never fight

[@kikoredog]

he simply never has to fight again lol hes 400+ millionaire why ever risk breaking something or randomly dying

[@adb8003]

kikoredog he’s nowhere near worth 400 million lmfao

[@friedmotherboards2395]

AD B 100 m check + sponsor ships, whiskey, clothing brand, Khabib fight

[@adb8003]

Fried Motherboards I believe 100 M. But 400 M is getting into Dana money.

[@wabbling1]

Herb has such beautiful calm and positive demeanour

[@evanschroeder8411]

Joe "Probably a Lot of Meat Eaters" Rogan

[@gmnboss]

Horse Meat Eaters

[@vegetabrah1889]

Loool I literally commented the exact same thing before seeing this 😂😂😂😂

[@harryd7197]

Must be getting his beef from mexican farms 😂💉💊💉💊💉

[@indieg0006]

Picoshaw let me down big time as a fan.....I'm about to cry man.

[@cflo1386]

Lmao

[@JohnGoldBunny]

Picosnake or eposnake

[@Connected100]

the I'm about to cry add on made this comment underrated

[@RawDogTV]

Snake in the Grass

[@ForeverCali100]

Nate Diaz once said " There all on Steroids".

[@AlphaQHard]

I think he said “theyre all on steroids” but Ive been wrong before

[@cali2491]

Herb dean is a chill dude. I would totally smoke him out.

[@packlesswolf1]

Same lol. Gonna smoke up here in a few after work

[@matrixdeprogrammed1271]

T Uu Stfu loser

[@horaciogonzalez5749]

I don’t know why that sounds gay lol

[@cali2491]

@@matrixdeprogrammed1271 thank you matrix.

[@RandyRotta]

Herb: The fighter from France... Joe: Frances-ngannou?

[@jordannolan4008]

Randy Rotta uhhhh but he is from France? He's Cameroonian-French...

[@RandyRotta]

Jordan nolan He was born and raised in Africa, but yeah, I do think he ended up moving to France and might still live there.

[@AdubsMMA]

Stoner word association is funny. 🤣

[@AXharoth]

cameroon was a french colony

[@tunaipm]

He is from Cameroon.He got into France illegally and even lived in the streets for some months there, while already an adult. Then he started training boxing there, then moved to MMA. I believe he lives in Vegas, close to the UFC PI, but he does goes back there often. Cheers

[@DunKnoThaMySpace]

Herb: who’s the fighter from France? Joe: Francis 🤣🤣

[@CHiLLWiThWEED]

Herb is such a chill dude haha 😁

[@axelfoley1812]

Shits on T.J for cheating but protects Jones although he keeps failing tests....BS

[@seanism2011]

Joe can’t protect Jon. There is reasonable doubt associated with Jon’s situation. TJ has no doubt or has even tried to argue against the findings as of yet. Two different circumstances. Still not saying jon is innocent.

[@seanism2011]

jaxsonlee10 you don’t have facts on intentional use. You speak from a place of emotions. With that said you may be right.

[@EvanderTrolyfield]

Joe Grine There can be reasonable doubt with nearly anything. Jon has failed for estrogen blockers and then turinabol. Still “pulsing”. Anyone doubting Jon is a juice head is contrarian. His team just has it figured out like most guys. As Bisping said, “anyone using that tainted supplement excuse is bullshit”.

[@NoName-fo9ty]

Because Jon the 🐐 USDA knows that shit you should to.

[@Jfscloud723]

Joe Grine The first fight with DC Jones had super low testosterone levels in three tests, He had testosterone levels 12 times lower then the average male. You could even find a video of Joe on here making an excuse for him about being on some type of medication. And it only makes more sense when he pops for masking agents clomiphene and letrozole the 2end time.

[@christopher7667]

Taints his legacy? There is no legacy now.

[@pitbullsami1741]

Christopher Davis nah a lot of us still like him. Fuck it. He beat garbrandt and then lost to clean cejudo so.

[@Bowfella]

@@pitbullsami1741 You're a fucking labotamite if you like TJ. Dude's just a child that can't beat anyone if he's not on EPO then can't admit when he loses.

[@Bowfella]

@Elijah Rueda Parziale LOL wtf are you talking about? His previous fights came out positive too, they don't even know how far back it goes.

[@dayligs]

@@Bowfella No they didn't. All prior fights came back clean. It was only The Cejudo fight. Know your shit before talking shit

[@lusafur950]

WRONG

[@FSamuels20]

Career is over, he’s going to be 35 when he comes back while not fight in 2 years

[@crlclssic]

And lost all respect... No one will care about him anymore

[@gunplaygaming6830]

but 35 isnt old

[@cs8715]

@@gunplaygaming6830 for fighting it is.

[@hf3923]

@@cs8715 Randy Couture disagrees

[@USER-qs9od]

nah if cruz can come back tj can

[@MCompetitione]

Tj "I'm as confident as I've ever been, I juice every day" dillashaw

[@weakbrainthrombosis]

It’s not just the physical endurance factor, it’s the increased or sustained focus that comes along with that increased physical endurance.

[@jrocha4167]

Dang cejudo used that gold medal 🥇 to beat the EPO !

[@thesaucewhisperer6073]

My opinion is that TJ started doping after the Dodson fight. His physique totally changed

[@Daniel-yo5es]

epo does not change your physique.. it's not a form of test... it makes the body produce more red blood cells, so you carry more oxygen... you don't get tired as easily.

[@donowhattowriteb616]

Daniel it does change your body cause you are able to train harder

[@nicklewis2826]

Daniel but wouldn’t that help him work out harder and longer to get in peak physical condition?

[@LemoneTheGreat]

Daniel Then use your head a little more if you know so much. If you get don’t get tired you can work out harder. Work out harder = better body. . .

[@Pnw208]

If you're on TRT you can add test no ester and dose multiple times a day because it clears the body so fast and you can't test for the ester either. You can take as much as you want and your levels will be back to normal in a day basically. That's why you can't allow trt

[@caladoregandt7191]

Joe Rogan, "It doesn't take away from the fact that he is an amazing fighter." It does Joe, you can't be amazing if you need that kind of help

[@garrycoates2147]

Correct. Test his entire career before you say he was amazing.

[@icepick859]

He still has great technique

[@nottodaybucko]

taking steroids doesn’t make you good at mma, lol

[@brandonolsen579]

@@nottodaybucko the main thing is not only does it make you stronger, but it enhances your endurance and reaction time. You land and dodge shots you maybe wouldn’t have been able to otherwise. It allows you to go into round 3-5 feeling fresher and sharper than if you weren’t taking it. Also in training you recover quicker and get better results, so it absolutely does make you better at mma

[@cardbored_]

You casuals are morons

[@brandonthecreator7271]

Tj Pillashaw

[@clavididk1236]

Shootashaw 😂 he shot that in his butt cheek 😆

[@ItsWillTalk]

USADAshaw!

[@tmerchead1]

Dillaroid.

[@clavididk1236]

@@ItsWillTalk 😭😂

[@blairdraper]

BrandonTheCreator lol

[@BeaztBrozInc]

Props to Herb for being too respectful to call Joe a "science nerd" on his own show.

[@bradfox5128]

I bet if fighters were charged with assault if they test positive for PEDs, the get would clean up real quick

[@dennisthebodeau8700]

That should be a thing. Put in their contract something similar to, "If you test positive for PED for these fights, then anything protecting you from receiving criminal charges will cease to protect you."

[@cali2491]

It's a business tho. Look at brock, he tested positive and not one thing from the UFC. They will always "comply" and give tons of chances just like with NFL, NBA etc.

[@jaymatthews9324]

You wouldn't even need that. Just make them give their earnings from the fight to their opponents.

[@eclipsegsx96]

Brad Fox life time bans.

[@BrandonAngelFitness00777]

Thats a good idea... it is like sneaking a weapon in and using

[@GABRIELLUCERO1]

"He was getting better and better" Makes sense the more he shot up the better he got.

[@stressur3972]

If TJ was roiding for the Renan Barao fights then that's fucked up. He ruined Renan's career, he was never the same after that.

[@letoatreides4041]

Just ban them for 3 years. Test every fight. Every fight Break them. Make the risk not worth it.

[@zanedickson2725]

You guy's don't know the personality type very someone whon trains like that gets destroyed in sparring gets their head smashed in, in the octagon and gets addicted to winning won't blink when they get something that isn't detectable..as tests get better so do the drug's. I'd like to see them test McGregors piss in a few years..

[@littlesweets3390]

Amanda Nunes needs to be checked next.

[@colespackman4234]

No she definitely didn't son

[@littlesweets3390]

WOW..I just realized my daughter changed my screen name again. And this one is worse than the last.

[@willdelarosa8238]

Little Sweets 😂

[@floatinggoose9197]

10 years ago, all the fighters were juiced. Today, probably 50%

[@thehangman4387]

USADA made a deal with TJ, accept 2 yrs suspension 10k fine we will overlook the other samples, that's why he was so coaperative, otherwise they would have run epo test for all the samples before coming with a sanction

[@sharpshooter1626]

The hangman I was thinking the same thing

[@cluerag3233]

Conor a magician hes always right 😂😂🤘

[@kevinsmoon3257]

youngfly apples except on his fight with khabib

[@cluerag3233]

@@kevinsmoon3257 hes on steroids

[@AnthonyScottGames]

So much of this conversation could apply to anything. Fair and equal application of the rules. That’s how you get real equality.

[@honeybadger420]

This shows how much a beast was Henry cejudo

[@weilzudope]

epo mainly helps with condition, doesnt safe you from getting knocked out first round

[@therequis5351]

Aidan Tsukiyama It doesn’t matter how much epo TJ was using he was facing a Olympic gold medalist, ufc champion and the only guy that could beat DJ for the belt and don’t let anything let you forget that. Cejudo 🐐🐐🐐

[@kore6078]

He's an underdog vs Moraes

[@BlJkScTr]

Aidan Tsukiyama I don’t know. TJ’s head sure had some pop coming off of Cejudo’s gloves.

[@111-p4t]

HONEY BADGER Demetrius Johnson made cejudo look like a wrestling amateur. Look at the fight again and look at the beautiful take down defense /recovery from dj

[@VinceTX]

im extremely disappointed in TJso much for gloating on how cold your coach is and his understanding of the body im pretty tight about this cus I was riding for bro

[@sandrost4243]

There absolutely are people with 1200-1400 testosterone natural. Usually in their early 20s and genetically superior, but it is not uncommon. I'm in my 40s and I am 870 without any TRT. It happens. Now if you told me there were guys with 2400, that's clearly a PED user.

[@johnnyboy18778]

Little snake in the grass 🐍

[@rebelruthless3781]

Yeah your mother and father are punk beezy

[@soup6317]

Rebel Ruthless translation?

[@countsmyth]

Good luck with the book!

[@zeppirl]

Tea father ?

[@zeppirl]

Ah go on, go on go on go on......

[@AberdeenAnthony]

Tj was juicing and got beaten like a NFL players girlfriend.

[@deadendfriends1975]

Too soon 😂😂 😂

[@Automaticman88]

An early stoppage? Tough chick..

[@Bowfella]

@Jimbo Jones Because Cejudo was juicing?

[@najib9093]

Jimbo Jones yeah that’s why they tested positive

[@tr00f]

E xtraordinary footwork P ersistent pressure O utrageous stamina TJ “the natty GOAT” Dillashaw

[@KingLizardxo28]

I bet those Cody fights will be turned over to no contest now 😂

[@dennisthebodeau8700]

Turn them to losses. You can have a no contest, and still be considered undefeated.

[@marykirkland2769]

Nah he passed those tests

[@nathanocampo6371]

@@marykirkland2769 I don't doubt he has been cheating for a whole tbh. Cody even said he was using.

[@amirtaj4323]

@@marykirkland2769 They tested the samples for EPO again and this time he popped.

[@amirtaj4323]

@terry mc In the MMAdigest video they said the samples in the Cody fight were tested after he tested positive and he popped again.

[@lilbibby8147]

Lol man was on captain america's serum and still lost 😂😂😂😂

[@billihawk368]

Whats setum?

[@starfish69420]

What's funny is right when u click on the video they are both laughing with tj in the thumbnail that was so fitting

[@insuchaway]

An Olympic Gold Medal won a Cejudo?

[@rjk13090]

Based on the thumbnail i thought the title would be "Joe Rogan on Gordon Ramsey"

[@aldairrocha3374]

Best Yoel impression ever by joe

[@anon-r9q1111]

its ok the snake tj just wanted to refill his snake Venom, its normal for these creatures.