Joe Rogan - Teddy Atlas on Joe Louis and the Importance of Boxing

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1173:
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[@FM-cx7ok]

Joe Louis fights should be mandatory learning in all schools.

[@duckydarkstar38]

How ? White people are back too being cruel and racist again. How can you show proof of that they cannot accept ?

[@erlend6338]

All the great fighters and fights should be shown

[@aikenodubitan5256]

😄😄

[@RichardJohnson1969]

@@duckydarkstar38 Nigga what?

[@obstaclecourseaustin8279]

@@duckydarkstar38 I pray you your only that ugly in the comments not in real life. Sad😔

[@dave6635]

Max Schmeling was not a Nazi. He became friends with Joe and helped him out financially when Louis fell on hard times later in life.

[@handzofstone1152]

I think you mean Max Baer.

[@dave6635]

It's Schmeling I'm referring to. He helped Louis in his latter years and paid for his funeral.

[@WallKenshiro]

Schmeling was used by them for propaganda. He was pretty much their hostage to a big degree.

[@estebannemo1957]

Max was sent to the front because he wouldn’t join the Nazi party.

[@tbg_dies_1st494]

Dave66 that really is besides the point of the story lol

[@mikebordeaux8218]

Teddy’s honesty is one of the things that keep me a boxing fan in spite of the disgusting corruption.

[@ilikefights4141]

One of the things that keep me a boxing fan is i like watching people punch each other

[@abelincoln5698]

And the fact that the current heavyweight champion can't even actually box

[@OldSchoolBoxing1]

@@abelincoln5698 you were saying?

[@joshlasky8138]

@@OldSchoolBoxing1 ya well I think that usyk is the best pure boxer in the heavyweight division. But, fury also is right there, so I don't think anybody can say that heavyweights are not technically sound right now proves otherwise. Deontay obvious has a really "unorthodox" and sloppy style. But I think his iq is underrated and I think that, even though he isn't the best pure boxer, deontay being so different works to hid advantage. He believes in his power to a fault, but he has the ability and he believes in himself enough to throw these punches from weird angles and he is willing to take one to give one and he has a great chin. Obviously fury knocked him out, but it's not like he made it easy for him. Wilder got up and knocked tyson down. They both are warriors. But my point is, that right now heavyweight boxing is full of talent. And also, Mike tyson will always be remembered for his power, but he is criminally underrated as a boxer unfortunately. I think heavyweight Is usually the least "stacked" division. It's usually top heavy. But I think it's exciting cause of that. I think that jared Anderson is the next big star about to pop onto the big fights. He is fuckin Uber skilled and can fucking train dudes with his power. I think lightweight is still the best division in boxing, but heavyweight is better now than it has in long long time. And unfortunately that's all that most "casual" fans know or care to know about. I think bam rodriguez can be a huge star, but the only reason I don't think it will happen is the fact that he fights at 115 pounds. . And wants to probably go back to 108 pounds. So the state of boxing is dependent on the heavyweight division being healthy at least and it is and has up and comers also to fill the older guys spots

[@joshlasky8138]

I'm sorry I was smoking blunt and was just ranting about the heavyweight division like a jackass. I apologize for the rambling on and on in my last comment. Didn't mean to do any of that. I'm just excited about the future of all combat sports

[@jibsmokestack1]

Never heard Joe shut up more in a podcast!

[@ThisSentenceIsFalse]

ihave

[@chidiekeji7430]

Randall Carson, De Grasse Tyson, Rhonda Patrick...he is very observant with his highly guests who are the forerunners in their line of professions..

[@daviddurkan23]

Rumour has it this podcast is still going on.

[@stevereed8786]

jibsmokestack1 Teddy is why Tyson became Tyson . When Atlas was replaced Tyson started to loose. Those are the facts.

[@casualxxgamerxx9662]

@@stevereed8786 I think you're getting him mistaken with Rooney. Atlas left Catskills in 1982.

[@jakenbake9878]

Teddy is a national treasure. Truly a hall of fame human being

[@jamesomthng]

Joe Louis is by far the most underappreciated athlete and greatest heavyweight of all time. Dont @ me.

[@Frvems]

Absolutely

[@kennethjohnson5179]

I agree. History don’t mention his outside the ring accomplishments enough. Since he never talked shit in the ring, that somehow went against him. I liked that he let his fist decide most of his fights.

[@bossplayermfs5972]

💯💯💯!

[@hbcufootballmatters3425]

25 Title defenses against not so good fighters; however, did quite a bit outside of boxing while getting screwed by the U.S. government for his trouble. In the grand scheme of things, his changes weren't as wholesale as Muhammad Ali's, when he made his stand.

[@Leeroynumanuma]

HBCU Football Matters I would say some of his defenses were against not so great fighters. Joe was also leagues above everyone else in the heavyweight division and his reign as champ is quite impressive.

[@1DARBY1]

I've never heard of Teddy Atlas but i could listen to this guy for hours he has so much passion and knowledge. I'm glad Joe kept quet and let him speek. Well done Joe

[@chachi_luna]

Think he works for ESPN for their boxing events! Check him out some time if you’re able!

[@jackthepumpkinking2434]

Teddy atlas is one of the greatest boxing coaches of all time, and a boxer and a boxing historian. So when its comes to boxing his knowledge of pugulism is almost unmatched. Hes a living encyclopedia of boxing.

[@jomana4517]

ATLAS IS THE DIRTBAG THAT WAS KICKED OUT OF A BOXING GYM FOR POINTED A GUN AT 15 YEAR OLD TYSON FOR TALKING TO HIS PRETTY WHITE NIECE,

[@webtheweb]

@@jomana4517 tell us more

[@floridabigbear]

With teddy you don’t got much choice to let him talk. He’s always been a bug time talker. Atleast he has interesting stuff to say though

[@raverfox420]

I aint even into boxing and i could listen to this man talk about it forever!

[@CraigMansfield]

raver fox His autobiography is great, too. If you fancy a read.

[@rookyofficial]

Same here man

[@aikenodubitan5256]

For real!

[@generalconsensus2518]

Take a breath teddy!! Damn

[@kingleunitas5920]

Was this Joes best podcast of all time? Teddy is a wise man!!!

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

This is my favorite JRE episode as a listener since 2013

[@daltonwade9441]

Love Teddy’s passion for the sweet science

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Matthew Sirbaugh I wish I could love something so much that wasn’t a person

[@chaosdweller]

Yeah i love hearing his passion for boxing too; btw that right hand at end was beautiful.

[@dywerscollapsedpocket3465]

Please have Teddy on more often just talking about old fights and past fighters. It's amazing

[@cynicaloptimist3301]

I second that motion.

[@THEPRINCEOFKINGZ]

I'm from Detroit and we love Joe Louis a true legend in and out the ring who never got his proper respect it hurts to see the Joe Louis arena tore down for a little ceaser arena

[@louwaars]

That's one long ass sentence.

[@clevelandwilliams5922]

Joe Louis is a legend. We need to remember that Louis came into an era that the social & political landscape was at a knife edge. He stood out like an apple in a rubbish tip.

[@THEPRINCEOFKINGZ]

@@clevelandwilliams5922 FACTS ALI AND JOE LOUIS THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHTS IN HISTORY

[@trimotomann653]

@@clevelandwilliams5922 i know it suck louis doesent get noticed as the greatest inspired ali, sugar ray robinson, cleveland williams, joe frazier and more, if he wasmt here there would be no ray robinson

[@kefkapalazzo1]

“They were afraid. Normal. People are afraid of that word. It’s there, and without it we’re not alive” Boy

[@Kryptdegen]

He learned that from cus

[@angelferrer892]

Joe Louis is the most underrated fighter there is

[@jamesbarrass3968]

Larry Holmes

[@daisychain8622]

Isn’t he generally regarded as one of the best heavy weights of all time?

[@louwaars]

How is he underrated

[@19QKOO82]

Great video about what Teddy's discussing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZKpkqKZp52Lbas

[@egontiedeman761]

How he is underrated?

[@dubbs8294]

listening to teddy talk about these fights. it really gives me a re-found appreciation for the history of boxing.

[@chrishett99]

Teddy is a legend. He is so passionate, and brutality honest.l

[@dru3703]

He's right about that Max Schmeling / Joe Lewis second fight. Boxing during that time was more than sport. It was actually life and meant more than anything. Ironically Max Schmeling got a bum rap. He was german but the Nazi's used him as propaganda and he was not a sympathizer. He was a genuinely good person and they became friends later. HBO did a great documentary on all of this called Joe Lewis - a hero betrayed. Its excellent.

[@CraigMansfield]

dru Many Germans wanted nothing to do with the war. My grandad (UK) met his best friend during the war. He was a German prisoner of war that my grandad had to watch. In Egypt. But my grandad took him to the cinema and they became best friends until my grandad died. Neither one gave a fuck for the war, but neither one had the choice to join or not. People in the UK, were shot dead if they didn't join the first world. war. The best German scientists actually refused to help to build a nuclear bomb. They wanted no part of it, and caused as many complications as they could. I don't even think Germany were the enemy. The USSR was reaching West, killing its own people. The Japanese were right bastards who invaded China for resources, and the British already had invaded most of the world and had an empire. It's not as simple as 'Hitler was evil', France had already defeated Germany in the past, and countries from the east were trying to take more land from Germany. Hitler being a brave soldier, saw what people were planning, and was put into impossible poverty as punishment for the first world war, so he thought Germany could fight, and be independent/prosperous again, or they could lose their language, their land and their people. Remember that the victor writes the history books. 😊

[@CraigMansfield]

And Germans never called themselves 'Nazis'. They were German Socialists. That's more American propaganda.

[@dru3703]

TJ McGregor its capitalized not capitalised. Made me cringe when you misspelled your dis. By the way, proper nouns are capitalized so that actually wasn't a conviction. You should probably get a refund on your internet police degree.

[@wbafc1231]

@@CraigMansfield No they didn't . Where did you get that nonsense?

[@19QKOO82]

Great video on this story Teddy's discussing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZKpkqKZp52Lbas

[@bisonmma-kickboxing2511]

Teddy Atlas takes it to another level, what a legend 🙌💯

[@mikeup7517]

I've never heard Joe be so quiet but I appreciate his silence because Teddy is inspirational

[@Daniel-zt2nb]

Teddy is the man that need to keep boxing alive with talks like this

[@nicholasbryant1753]

Teddy Atlas is a boxing purist. He still appreciates a well planned attack no matter what level the fighter is.

[@Curbsidehustle87]

I just love hearing teddy talk about fighting and fighters it gives me chills sometimes when when he starts describing fighting and the heat of battle

[@cynicaloptimist3301]

My sediments exactly.

[@ronthunders6124]

everytime i watch teddy atlas speak, he has this way about him where i just want to shut up, and listen to everything hes got to say! Hes so interesting and opinionated. He has a view on everything, but more importantly, his views are always original. Like an artist, he takes in what he sees, and then shares his views and opinions in a very deep way to the world. Im so glad hes on JRE! He should be regular guest

[@andrewparry1665]

Joe Louis Vs Max Schmelling was the biggest fight in boxing history

[@joacoballarati5943]

Somebody call Teddy and start making movies out of this stories. I could listen to this all day long. Nothing but love for Joe podcasts, society needs more of this i am DAMN sure about that. Lessons are taught durings these podcast

[@loveboxinglucky1716]

Amen to that

[@frghtnight]

Joe Louis was amazing

[@Tropicaltemp]

Teddy Atlas is classic old school, and has such passion for boxing that's inspiring. He should be a modern world history and motivational speaker. So many people need to hear this. It's so relevant even today.

[@J_ONeal]

You know it was a good podcast when all the JRE Clips are 15-25 min long.

[@fredo1070]

WE ARE FIREMEN!

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

" Do you believe in magic!?!?"

[@winter.b0i]

WE LIVE IN THE HEAT

[@citrusoi]

The heat dont bother us!!

[@bjarczyk]

I did 4 summers of wildland firefighting and I box, so that clip is so special to me hahaha.

[@willsmith5725]

The heat doesn't scare us!

[@MrDindando]

Boxing legends TV was introducing new fans like me to old time greats until KZbin took the channel down

[@johnnnyoh]

Wait wtf? That channel is down I didn't even know that wow that was the illest boxing channel

[@MrDindando]

Yup copy right. Shame was a great channel

[@seaniekay]

Fuck youtube

[@jamaaldaynitelong8367]

It's back up

[@organizeordieunionstrong5444]

I remember Joe saying he would have Teddy on...👌🥊Didn't disappoint, wonderful to see teddy on a platform like Joe's

[@gom3432]

Excellent.. love teddy atlas

[@johnbannon2812]

My wife's Grandfather served in the army for 20 yrs and 20 or 15 before the civil rights movement. He sparred with Joe Louis for the troops.

[@chuckeastman7782]

One of the best interviews ever...Joe, you know how to sit back and let the interview flow...great insight and lessons for life!

[@08kobe52]

Best episode ever 😀 Man I can listen to Teddy for hours he has that old school grit and wisdom you gotta love it

[@keimyahgreene9357]

I almost cried

[@thertisan3440]

Me too, I had to fight back the tears twice.

[@duckydarkstar38]

I met him when i was 14 in brooklyn he was a guest event judge at the sunset park trails for the junior Olympics. He is a true walking legend. I met Hector "Macho" Camacho too he was incredible

[@rooksy7867]

I had the honour of visiting Joe Louis’s resting place in Arlington Cemetery. The grace of the man was profound..

[@waynezimnoch3182]

Joe Louis greatest ever . Also great man and great American . Beloved in his time . Treated poorly by US Government . Classy man and classy dresser . Man of few but affective words " he can run but he can't hide "

[@SCBrown]

My grand dad used to cut his hair in Harlem

[@balxavae8035]

SC Brown did he know how to do the harlem shake?

[@realfightstudios4659]

Because that's where Sugar ray robinson came from

[@louwaars]

Bet he heard some cool stories

[@RJ-jo8cy]

Joe Louis is the best heavyweight of all time.. he held the belt the longest for nearly 12 years second Afro American to win it his my personal second best fighter ever lived behind the GOAT sugar Ray Robinson then Sam Langford number 3

[@daniellongoria9622]

Every story he told I could imagine myself in the same room , like a fly on the wall . Every life experience told with such passion and you could tell he was invested emotionally into what ever it was . Amazing.

[@aikenodubitan5256]

I love listening to Teddy Atlas! Such a deep deep guy and character! Insights, inspiration and more!

[@mikeup7517]

I could listen to Teddy Atlas tell stories all freaking day. Great story teller and a smart man!

[@MisterPrecision13]

Afte all these years in the sport, you can hear Teddy's passion and see his face light up when he tells a story. And tells it well... Great job keeping quiet on this one Joe...

[@jimicortez9894]

I had read the Joe Louis story years ago, but hearing tony say it with such passion and heart, it felt like the first time I heard it, amazing

[@alphadevoir6310]

If I ever have a son I should name him Joe Louis.

[@lenapebrave1107]

I could listen to Teddy tell stories all day, everyday! PASSION, VISION, UNDERSTANDING, .... WISDOM

[@bigjjohnson21]

That level of impact is not only missing in boxing it’s missing in everything.

[@MrRufusRToyota]

Joe Louis was as important a civil rights leader as any.

[@anonymousanonymous3707]

Teddy Atlas is the truth his knowledge is overwhelming his passion is unrivalled boxing needs a UFC style governing body and it needs teddy Atlas to run it ... End the corruption once and for all give every fighter from club level to casino headliner a fair shake

[@Semajjame5]

Watching the bored documentary about joe Louis on yt have me chills. One of The most underrated fighter ever

[@cynicaloptimist3301]

I can't convey enough just how much I love Teddy. If I could choose any one person to be around...I choose Teddy. He is one of the main reasons that I fell in love with boxing so many years ago. His passion exudes and his fight IQ is uncanny. Bravo! And thank you

[@jasonjekyll8576]

He showed a lot of passion while talking about this.

[@LoganCharlesII]

It's great to see an MMA guy saying such good things about boxing.

[@at5840]

MMA guy??? Wtf u talking about teddy is a boxing coach

[@rickysalinas4684]

What a great guy..he humbles himself knowing that hes not perfect In life yet says it how it is..mad respect for him.

[@ripster9713]

I've been playing fight night all week 😂

[@MotivationManChannel]

Best sports franchise of all time. Rumors of new fight night

[@jimlahey9381]

Glad to see all the love for Teddy on these comments sections of the videos. Whenever I seem to mention being a fan of his around boxing fans I always get shit on, people seem to really dislike him for whatever reason. I've been a fan since I watched Friday Night Fights on ESPN back when I was a kid, him and Max Kellerman use to host the shows together. He always tells it like it is and his passion for boxing was one of the things that helped me become a fan.

[@ralebkilliams766]

I love Teddy Atlas! I don't always agree with him, but no matter his opinion, he always presents them with the same passion.

[@dcro9903]

Outstanding interview!

[@aaeonkarma3717]

Loving it, all your guests are great, Yates, Goggins, Atlas...so many, your show is really picking up speed

[@theStacyJames]

Teddy needs his own show! This guy is dynamic, passionate, surprisingly intellectual and super authentic!!!

[@glenw-xm5zf]

NHL had Don Cherry. Boxing has Teddy Atlas

[@curtjohansen5742]

I've never heard Joe so quiet. I could listen to Teddy Atlas talk for hours. He was on the verge of having a breakdown when he talked about Tyson.

[@clevelandwilliams5922]

He put a lot of effort into developing who Tyson become

[@powerfuljones]

Such a beautiful Story. Makes me tear up. And it makes me so sad that so many people don’t know this at all and will never understand. You have to understand boxing.

[@MM-sf7qv]

Great interview. Teddy Atlas is always so honest and interesting. Joe Louis hit like a sledgehammer.

[@alec2726]

I'm a bit of an oldie but my son who also loves boxing and is a boxer sent me this video and Teddy Atlas' assessment that Joe Louis was the greatest. Made me re-think. I do remember two things however. In the first Schmeling fight, Joe Louis' mother was in the front row and calling out to the referee in the 12th round 'Please don't let him kill my boy'! About the 2nd Schmelling fight, Nat Fleischer I think, owner of Ring Magazine said "No-one would have beaten Joe Louis on the night of the 2nd Schmeling fight".

[@BrotherPatriot]

Agreed...as I say the same thing. Joe "unleashed" himself...during that 2nd encounter. We NEVER get to see that Joe Louis again and on that night, NO ONE beats the Brown Bomber.

[@BilbusWilbury]

An animated series with Teddy Atlas narrating historic boxing fights/fighters/ etc needs to happen.

[@jimbomoosio2184]

If they ever make a modern biopic of Louis they should cast Atlas in some part. He could write his own dialogue

[@paulwhitehead1190]

Best Joe Rogan podcast ever!!! More please!!!!

[@killtyrant]

You can feel this guys passion for the sport. I've heard this guys name thrown around from time to Tim but I've never seen him or heard him. Gotta say, he does have alot of good to say and I appreciate him laying out the history.

[@killtyrant]

Because I have knowledge in other areas that dont pertain to boxing? Also I said ive heard this guys name before. I just never saw or heard him before.

[@gordonreed2736]

Love Joe's demeanor always. A master interviewer

[@cwhite8023]

Teddy Atlas should seriously do a commentary of historic fights.... ratings would be huge!!!!

[@BrotherPatriot]

Joe & Max's 2nd fight = The single greatest sporting event in History. HOO-YAH & God Bless Joe's Soul and Memory.

[@Nachtfahrt80]

Thank you for this Podcast

[@Justmoore.]

Joe Louis is my idol honestly

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

I fucking love Teddy Atlas. Seems every time he talks he manages to get to the very essence of life, of existence, of being. Sometimes the buildup takes forever but when he gets to the point, BAM, he fucking nails it.

[@CraigMansfield]

I love listening to Teddy Atlas. He's like a fascinating uncle.

[@joshlasky8138]

I love this podcast, teddy atlas has a real talent for expressing his passion. I love boxing more because of listening to teddy atlas on espn when I was a kid. I'm 32 now but back then I was a kid and I learned so much from this man about the sport and other stuff

[@classiclarry88]

I was enthralled for the whole three hours. Teddy and Atlas Sr. are amazing men.

[@alecandersen6637]

One of your best podcasts Joe!

[@hughgrant4778]

Teddy, you're from the heart, could listen to you all day.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Bro I've met Teddy Atlas in person when he used to host Friday Night Fights, they came to Austin, Texas and that guy has the biggest hands I've ever seen... he could strangle a man to death with those sausage fingers bruh

[@gretashapiro4118]

DonD512 interesting

[@diychad7268]

good thing he aint a proctologist.......

[@johnnyc0811]

Hahhaha bro i love facts like this. This is the real shit.

[@jiujitsuboy]

96 fights, 89 wins, damn

[@andrewbrannen275]

"JOE DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC"

[@johnnyblaze2620]

One of the greatest interviews!!! Even if your not a boxing fan

[@TeddyBearns]

This is why I love sports in general (especially boxing). There are people involved in it that make you believe in yourself as a human being from any background. In my opinion its good to appreciate your culture whilst remaining an individual!

[@purplebondsaiyan2987]

That's why i would love the World to check out the International Boxing Hall of Fame to learn the History of the Sport

[@Neo-oq3rx]

Joe Louis & Larry Holmes. 2 most underrated not just heavyweights but boxers in general. 2 of the best

[@joblakelisbon]

Rogan really has provided us with a University over the last few years. I've learnt valuable lessons more from these podcasts than I did during my undergraduate and masters degrees - and I did both at the University of Oxford. What an absolutely amazing guest. Thanks for introducing us to him Joe.

[@DeDona1]

Even Joe Rogan knows that when Teddy Atlas talks boxing, you sit there and listen, and don't say a word.

[@BulldogBoxing]

Great stuff !

[@moldeeside]

Great show and very true how Joe Louis was way more than the best heavyweight in the world, one very special man.

[@butchclay8126]

Great video. I'm a Teddy Atlas fan, too. I love some of his unique "Teddy Atlas" expressions...one especially stays with me: In describing a fighter's defensive skill in keeping his opponent at a distance, not letting the other fighter, an "in fighter," get inside. Atlas said of the defensive fighter's tactics something like "he's making his opponent fight his fight, keeping him outside, he's letting his opponent know that if he tries to get inside, he's gonna go through a 'bad neighborhood'."

[@delbatchio]

This was amazing. Teddy has a lot of wisdom to share

[@evangelodippolito7519]

Makes me respect Joe Louis so much more then I already do.

[@Deezyus]

Teddy for Prez lmao.. Seriously though, give this guy HBO and get rid of Jim & Harry.. Keep Jones and Max.. Teddy could save HBO 🤣.. Teddy Knows 💯

[@NH-tv3jr]

Great interview Joe, you didn't say a lot, but kept it ticking over perfectly. Nice to see an interview where someone can leave their own ego to one side.

[@josephdelledonne2098]

I've watched just about all of the great heavyweights from Marciano, to Louis, to Ali, to Frazier, Foreman, etc. I love the science, but man listen to how excited Teddy is. He loves boxing!!

[@ActionSetPieces]

Marciano and Louis are among my top 5 favorite boxers of all time!

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

"I used to tease Joe Louis by reminding him that I was the greatest of all time. But Joe Louis was the greatest heavyweight fighter ever. I just give lip service to being the greatest. He WAS the greatest.” ~ Muhammad Ali

[@dm102155]

Teddy is a great story teller, good interview.

[@johnosandra]

I have a video I made about 5-years ago on my channel titled 'how great was Joe Louis'. I love the history of Joe Louis. Class act and the best heavyweight of all time. Muhammad Ali I put into a different class from every other fighter.

[@Hearsticles]

KZbin is saving boxing. KZbin made me a boxing fan and taught me everything I know about the sport, honestly. There are so many great boxing channels.

[@bmseven2191]

What are some of your favorite channels?

[@Hearsticles]

@@bmseven2191 Rummy's Corner, Modern Martial Artist, and plenty more. There are a lot of great ones