Joe Rogan: "This is What Really Sold Me on God"

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10 ай бұрын

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Stephen C. Meyer, PhD, is a philosopher of science, the director of the Center for Science and Culture at the Discovery Institute, and the author of several books, including "Darwin's Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the Case for Intelligent Design," and "The Return of the God Hypothesis."
Clip taken from JRE #2008 w/ Stephen C. Meyer
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Stephen C. Meyer
Producer: Jamie Vernon
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@domcruise274 10 ай бұрын

In layman’s terms he said: “you can’t make a Lamborghini from a tornado going through a junk yard even if it is swirling in there for 100 trillion years.”

@nickd8719 10 ай бұрын

Brilliantly put point, and is that due to the totally chaotic nature of the driving system ( the 🌪 tornado) I would think that if you had a monkey typing for close to infinite time he might type some Shakespeare, but then I would argue that system is less chaotic to start with than a tornado. For a start you have a typewriter and an already farely sophisticated life form

@domcruise274 10 ай бұрын

@@nickd8719 True, also would be more equivalent if none of the car parts weren’t put together yet, even if the entire world was an auto scrap yard and there where 10 million hurricanes, a sports car would never be built

@max_mittler 10 ай бұрын

That’s not at all how anyone proposes that evolution works. It was never a bunch of random parts coming together like the watchmakers argument. Every living thing on this earth has been crafted through millions of trials and errors, from its most simplest possible base form upward, over several billion years. So to use your analogy, ***if a spark plug was able to self replicate, self-transform, self-assemble, and learn from mistakes and successes, then yes, a spark plug could turn into a Lamborghini in 4 billion years ***edit: Okay I'm editing it. This used to say "if you taught a spark plug" but I changed it to "if a spark plug was able to", because atoms and molecules are able to form complex structures by their very nature, and there is no evidence to the contrary.

@nate78824 10 ай бұрын

Nature is chaotic and random; incapable of producing a complex process of evolved life.

@nickd8719 10 ай бұрын

@@max_mittler if god is a form of self awareness outside our usual 3 dimensions could it have existed forever or does even god have to evolve

@wesleycardinal8869 10 ай бұрын

This is how you run an interview; invite people on that you probably disagree with, and give them time to explain their position. This is why JRE is in the position it now is. 👏👏

@harpo345 10 ай бұрын

And then ask simple, probing questions.

@jc-kj2on 10 ай бұрын

You right however joe is incapable of doing this with a conservative unless he feels threatened by their intelligence. Im not even a conservative but ive noticed a pattern with joe and this type of guest. Unfortunately i think it really boils down to trying to earn brownie points with the lefts machine. I know it sounds silly but sometimes people are.

@johnhough7738 10 ай бұрын

I couldn't do Joe's job ... I'd be too tempted to tell the nutcases to get away from their programming and try thinking for themselves just this once, if never again.

@steveg1961 10 ай бұрын

I agree with "wesleycardinal" here. Stephen Meyer is a creationism pseudoscience huckster, and goes around continuously promoting his religion-based pseudoscience claims which have been debunked thoroughly and repeatedly for decades - but unlike a lot of his critics, I appreciate it when people like Rogan give interviews like this and let them speak, precisely so we can witness the bogus arguments they use right out of their own mouths. Of course, it would be even better if Rogan were to also interview a professional philosopher and/or a professional scientist who is familiar with the kinds of arguments creationist pseudoscience promoters such as Meyer make, and present them with direct clips of Meyer's statements and have them discuss exactly why those statements are so off-base.

@warrenrae32 10 ай бұрын

@@steveg1961 Can you give some specific examples of the claims of Stephen Meyers that have been debunked that expose him as a Pseudoscience huckster?

@olegvegan 3 ай бұрын

As a programmer I must say that if you randomly change any code, there's a 99.99% chance it breaks, not just degrades. There's no way you can improve any code by randomly typing stuff in random places. The remaining 0.01% chance can't improve anything, your code will still run, but it will have errors like typos and miscalculations

@mobmob145 2 ай бұрын

Good thing that's not how evolution works❤

@MrInfernollama 2 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@mobmob145you know I would agree with you but putting the heart emoji at the end just screams “I’m an insufferable person who likes belittling others cuz then I feel real good” and I can’t get behind that ❤

@jeffreysevinga9398 2 ай бұрын

Not enough time for evolution to work. The new and latest theory is we probably came from aliens. Science will show the truth and probably none of us will have expected it to be like it is. Evolution or no evolution does it really matter? Changes nothing about how you or me live day to day.

@leebruno1722 2 ай бұрын

@@mobmob145that’s exactly how evolution works… random mutation + selective pressure + time

@taavit20 2 ай бұрын

But if you have enough time you will be in a situation where randomly changed code doesn’t break down the whole program.

@tysonatkins2236 5 ай бұрын

I love how Joe doesn't constantly interrupt his guests and try to dispute their viewpoint, or turn it around to make it sound like they're saying something entirely different.

@jonp3890 4 ай бұрын

“So, what you’re saying is”…

@stevenleemoney40 3 ай бұрын

He respects them and still lets them explain their opinions without saying anything stupid or siding on one side.

@stevenleemoney40 3 ай бұрын

@@jonp3890don’t be Mr smart guy

@onlinesol 3 ай бұрын

He has that capacity to zoom out and then right back in, almost instantly.

@scott1696 3 ай бұрын

He has no clue wtf he is saying clearly.

@jmac6973 10 ай бұрын

"let me run a couple of arguments by you and see what you think, ok?" wow what brilliant way to have a real conversation!

@jasonbarkman 10 ай бұрын

I agree. Unfortunately in this instance the argument was nonsensical

@jmac6973 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonbarkman lol ‘nonsensical’ is a bit of an overstatement.

@olisk-jy9rz 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonbarkman It's only nonsensical if you didn't understand it.

@bobsmith-ji2uh 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonbarkman it’s good to keep an open mind though. This maybe nonsensical. I really have no idea of knowing but I think about something like the big bang. Physicists really resisted that idea, even Einstein because the conventional wisdom was the universe was eternal. It’s probably not a good thing for scientists to be to dogmatic.

@ArnoldsDesign 10 ай бұрын

@@jasonbarkman If one understands the massive complexity required to even create a single cell out of random molecules, it doesn't appear to be nonsensical at all. The probabilities of that happening go far beyond what is possible, i.e. 1x10ˆ50. It's actually well over 1x10ˆ1000. The Stanley Miller experiment doesn't even scratch the surface.

@IamDoogy 5 ай бұрын

What makes Joe Rogan such an interesting interviewer? I think it’s two things: CURIOSITY and HUMILITY. He asks the interesting questions that are floating around in his viewers’ heads and then he lets the other person speak so that we can hear that other side. it’s very mentally stimulating. I always come away having felt like I learned something new. Maybe that’s a THIRD reason for Rogan’s success.

@WexfordOnYoutube 2 ай бұрын

No one ASKED.

@didotbasmayor 2 ай бұрын

sounds like a jealous guy

@Lindzeeann2uuu 2 ай бұрын

“Time was always the hero of the plot.” Truer words were never spoken.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

@Troublechutor Ай бұрын

Rhetoric done right

@YankeeStacking Ай бұрын

Indeed! One of my favorite sound bites in the interview.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@@Troublechutor WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

WHAT IS HE MEANING OF LIFE? To have a relationship with God on earth so you can spend eternity together in Heaven. So, what pushes me away from God? Sin (lying, unforgiveness, sexual sins from lust, dishonouring parents, steeling, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) which leads to hell. But Jesus died on the Cross and rose from the dead to give you the ability to repent and Believe in Him as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. @@YankeeStacking

@etherscholar 4 ай бұрын

Hard to follow him here but I read the book Darwin's Doubt by this guy back in the day and that was really good. What he's saying about digital code vs molecular code is spot on, anyone in programming will understand how true it is instantly. It's pretty crazy that the most advanced nanomachinery possible using some of the most advanced software & firmware has already been built - it's us.

@mcmanustony 4 ай бұрын

“DNA code” is shorthand- a metaphor. Meyer’s schtick is “codes must be written, So DNA was written therefore ….Jesus!!” DNA is a molecule

@Pikkabuu 4 ай бұрын

It isn't hard to follow Meyer as his whole shtick is "We don't know this so God did it". He just words it differently so that someone might think that he is intelligent and not just another creationist snakeoil salesman.

@tellaaalli 4 ай бұрын

I write code everyday; there are two possibilities - My actual "thinking" process is random therefore the code I write is random. - My actual "thinking" process is logical therefore accredited to the author. The conclusion Myer's comes to and argues is not earth shattering, the issue for many is objective acceptance something they will never do logically.

@harrymills2770 4 ай бұрын

@@Pikkabuu There's so much we don't know, that concluding God/not-God are equally faith-based choices.

@Pikkabuu 4 ай бұрын

@@harrymills2770 No. God of the gaps argument has so far had a 0% success rate. Every time people say that "God did it" but then our understanding increases and we see that it wasn't a deity who did it. For example once people thought that the Sun was lifted onto a chariot and then the god Ra raced the chariot across the sky. I'm sure that you now know why the Sun moves across the sky and it isn't because of Ra and his chariot. So no. Not falling for the God of the gaps argument takes no faith at all as saying "we don't know" demands zero faith.

@incaroads001 9 ай бұрын

I'm old enough to remember when intelligent people were expected to behave this way; and most of them did. No vituperation. No invectives. They ran their arguments past people and saw what they thought of them. We live now with a couple of generations who were taught that anything they said was simply brilliant, that they themselves were brilliant, and that no one had the right to assail either of those brilliances in any way...ever. That "self esteem centric" education has produced at least two generations of dangerously fragile egos and incredibly brittle intellects.

@ryucartel351 9 ай бұрын

They haven't been given any good perspective on or ability to attribute any sort of objective meaning and value to things. Everything is subjective, whatever feels good, is good. "If I have an idea, it's a good idea because I had it". They can't understand that "equality" does not exist in nature, which we are a part of. There are many ideas, yes, but some are of much greater value and meaning than others. Many Greek philosophers understood this, that there are some great ideas, and there are also many very small ideas.

@incaroads001 9 ай бұрын

@@ryucartel351 subjective is a great word. They're all in possession of moral compasses with needles that point in whatever direction they happen to be facing.

@kajeralocse 9 ай бұрын

I have lived long enough to say that you hit the nail right on its damn head.

@kylebushnell2601 9 ай бұрын

You can say one Gen. But putting millennials in that category is beyond a mistake and perhaps extremely bias of Gen x or whatever you fal Into.

@incaroads001 9 ай бұрын

@@kylebushnell2601 interesting observations. I thank you for them, and will consider what you have said.

@thinman8621 10 ай бұрын

Intelligent conversation is so engaging and mentally refreshing. Thank you Joe Rogan for being a great host.

@tardischick6629 9 ай бұрын

😆 🤣

@codyreisner3075 8 ай бұрын

You trust fauci too? lol

@mcmanustony 8 ай бұрын

@@codyreisner3075 yes. I don’t trust Meyer as he has a track record of lying his tits off.

@JeffreyGoddin 7 ай бұрын

Rogan invites controversial idiots to spew diatribe, then sits back and throws them the questions they want to answer. The way to run an interview? Not if you have an honestly enquiring mind. Buddy I'm attempting to rehabilitate made me watch this, this interview sucks.

@dannyellis971 6 ай бұрын

Where was the intelligent conversation? This guy is rambling absolute rubbish. He is not all there.

@JacintaGib 27 күн бұрын

I really enjoyed this interview. I like that Joe doesn't interrupt, and there is no fighting. Just 2 people having an open discussion.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 24 күн бұрын

God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.

@gcruishank9663 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, going to Spotify to listen to the whole interview!

@charlesmcnally2956 3 ай бұрын

Ides of March . Tides Of March. 2037 Ides of marchTIdal waves east and west destroy the USA. Dont cross your T and dot your i. Scott McNally Facebook

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 3 ай бұрын

People often say, “I’m not hurting anyone so it’s ok to sin (lying, stealing, sexual sins, disrespecting parents etc)” The same God who said to love your neighbour first said to love Him to the best of your ability. If you carry on sinning, then you do not love God but are selfish like the devil so you will be joined to your father in hell or repent of your sins and believe in Jesus as God so Jesus adopts you as His child and you will join Him in Heaven forever.

@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 9 ай бұрын

JUST watched the whole video. Still waiting for the part where Rogan says, "This is what really sold me on God.".

@lynnslife93 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the way the video is titled is clickbait

@Miss_an100 5 ай бұрын

Big time lame. Hate channels like this. What a waste of time.

@jakeclark9 3 ай бұрын

@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 3 ай бұрын

@@jakeclark9 Fr?

@andreaa160 3 ай бұрын

At least I enjoyed the content

@tjgifford2128 10 ай бұрын

The idea of God is the only subject Rogan is close minded on.

@john-wu2zb 10 ай бұрын

Are you open minded to the idea that God may not be the same entity that is described in your particular scriptures?

@johnnybgood7442 10 ай бұрын

He's not closed minded. He simply rejects the idea until sufficient evidence is presented, which is how everyone should operate imo.

@Iambecome 10 ай бұрын

He said he's open to the possibility. How is that close minded? Psychological projection

@GraceH81 10 ай бұрын

@@john-wu2zbSuch a great question!

@stevenbasham 10 ай бұрын

@@Iambecome I wouldn’t say he’s close minded. You have to remember he invites these people and conversations to his podcast. If he was close minded he would just shun them.

@shimtest 6 ай бұрын

i don't agree with the details of the arguments , but I do enjoy listening to someone calmly and intelligently discussing the topic

@piterpraker3399 5 ай бұрын

There are plenty of ways to reframe such arguments - what would you suppose he do differently?

@noobmaster006 Ай бұрын

@@piterpraker3399he wants him to say God doesn't exist

@lalak5426 4 ай бұрын

Best videos with Stephen Meyer, whoever don't understand him just see more of his presentations

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 4 ай бұрын

@ianinkster2261 17 күн бұрын

The more I see of him the more depressingly confused he seems

@canchadhandlethat872 10 ай бұрын

At least Joe had Stephen on...that's really something, I don't even think Rogan would've had this guy on five years ago...JRE never disappoints interjecting mushrooms, DMT and UFO's

@josteincarlsen2905 10 ай бұрын

@@X-4-2-TVyou are crazy

@SJ-xy5md 10 ай бұрын

Yeah Rogan doesn't have a problem with discussing the things that don't make sense

@skdfdjkdfjkd 10 ай бұрын

@@X-4-2-TV Watch pingtrip, Joe actually kills all his guest in the end of the show.

@BuffaloWill 10 ай бұрын

Yeah the interjecting mushrooms was a lil cringe

@sandrakafri4777 10 ай бұрын

Yeah pretty ridiculous, JR looked small with his questions

@michaeleversole9400 10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan is truly amazing for his ability to stay on point in the conversation and interject a meaningful point of view, without defending it.

@jimshu245 10 ай бұрын

That all life is decended from a rock?

@envisioncodes5251 10 ай бұрын

Joe made no sense. You can tell the way John looked at him kinda like oh your serious? Ok let me school you and explain why what you think about evolution is not possible… lol

@hazynpeterson4083 10 ай бұрын

@@envisioncodes5251 hahaha...nice try

@jimshu245 10 ай бұрын

@joemaxwell6826 Is it a "strawman "? The Darwinian evolutionists are basically saying life came from innate non-living elements. "Rocks" are just a funny analogy of an absurd premise.

@jimshu245 10 ай бұрын

@joemaxwell6826 Yeah right genius. My original comment about "rocks" was about abiogenesis. You are the one who can't read!

@ejakobs9881 3 ай бұрын

The designer of the world and the observer that creates a correspondence between the two was actually very interesting way of solving that argument loop thing. Touche

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@jacklangley861 5 ай бұрын

Some unseen energy seems to support Joe Rogan and the JRE podcast. I am grateful for this! 🙏

@Yet333 3 ай бұрын

🙄🤖

@Adam_A_Christian 10 ай бұрын

“As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together...We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.” ― Max Planck; Originator of quantum theory. Notable awards: Nobel Prize in Physics (1918), Foreign Associate of the National Academy of Sciences (1926), Lorentz Medal (1927), Copley Medal (1929), Max Planck Medal (1929), Goethe Prize (1945) “Max Planck was one of the intellectual giants of the 20th century and one of the outstanding intellects of all time,” The New York Times wrote upon his death in October 1947, ranking “with the immortals of science, such as Archimedes, Galileo, Newton, and Einstein.”

@dereksherwood1 10 ай бұрын

ya? well you know that's just like uh your opinion man - Jeffrey Lebowski

@johnvirgilio5323 10 ай бұрын

Scripture was right about the heavens stretching out, having a beginning and the earth hanging on nothing. It also says, He holds it all together by his power and that He spoke it into existence. It seems He holds it together even still with the sound of his word in power. Or that was from the beginning.

@johnvirgilio5323 10 ай бұрын

He "upholds all things by the word of His power." From Hebrews 1:3 Perhaps even the incredible fine tuning for life is encompassed within this. It's all amazing, no doubt. Miraculous really.

@williamwilson6499 10 ай бұрын

Appeal to Authority. A fallacy. Next.

@planes3333 10 ай бұрын

@@johnvirgilio5323 amazing truth amazing grace

@tracygrant2052 10 ай бұрын

Really respect Joe as an interviewer. Has such interesting conversations!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@WallStWarrior11 6 ай бұрын

“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding.”

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 11 күн бұрын

@MrDingus12345 5 ай бұрын

As a theology major, it’s pretty clear that every argument for the existence of god (or arguments disproving those against the existence of god) relies on the idea that infinity is impossible, as infinite regression being impossible is a given in most arguments. I have nothing against religion, however when you boil most arguments for the existence of god down, almost 100% of the time they contradict themselves. It’s rational and logical to assume that god cannot exist, however I’m open to debating.

@thorish5033 3 ай бұрын

I definitely think it's rational to suppose there isn't a god. The correspondence argument he used doesn't make sense to me. You break your circular thought pattern by adding an unprovable, magical, all powerful diety? Sheesh if every problem could be solved in such a way we would never need critical thinking again! Lol

@kreuz8170 10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan AGAIN presents himself as an intelligent host. His guests, his questions and curiosity are revealing him to be not just a fighter, but a great host. Mr. Meyer presented his observation of Darwinism in a way that was enlightening and understandable to the laymen. I will be looking him up and listening to his lectures again. Thanks for the posting. He was very informative and as a matter of fact. Interesting. Thank you.

@Justmekpc 10 ай бұрын

He said schools were putting liter boxes in bathrooms he just repeats whatever bs he hears and doesn’t bother to see if it’s true 😂

@purplepixeleater 10 ай бұрын

@@Justmekpc yet you are here wasting your time xD what a loser ...

@mzbarsk 10 ай бұрын

@@Justmekpckind of how masks or vaccines stop Covid? Because TrUSr the ScIEnce?

@YOUARESOFT. 10 ай бұрын

@@Justmekpc coming from someone who thinks you are born gay.... stay bent bro

@YOUARESOFT. 10 ай бұрын

@chrishenley4179 which makes you basically nothing

@ThePerpetualStudent 10 ай бұрын

Humility is so important.

@RudyKelmendi Ай бұрын

Says Bill Gates, CDC and the round table

@Petteriks 3 ай бұрын

The argument at the ending is solid, good point 🙏🏼

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@GodHelpMe369 12 күн бұрын

I could die of the pain I cannot bear to keep on living

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 8 күн бұрын

@johnhein4851 10 ай бұрын

Meyer is an absolute gem! Good on Rogan for inviting him on!

@andrewfrank7222 10 ай бұрын

How so? He is another credentialed apologist spewing the same lies.

@briankenyon1543 10 ай бұрын

@@andrewfrank7222exactly! Same old theist- scientific analysis. "We don't have answers for this..... Or that... And the old science has holes (FKN duh) and the new science still isn't complete.... So.... Um..... God. Weak christian men, still uncomfortable with nature continually outwitting them!😂👍

@thetruth-rb5lm 10 ай бұрын

Jesus is more real than anything you have ever experienced. He loves you and wants you to know him. Do your pride and ask him to reveal himself to you and he will

@RobertM55533 10 ай бұрын

Oh, look, another two shallow thinking materialists...you people are so predictable and cheap and arrogant in your thinking. You wouldn't recognize a wise thought if it hit you with an f'ing truck. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

@briankenyon1543 10 ай бұрын

@@thetruth-rb5lm delusion

@aniefro2403 10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan bringing incredible people on and asking just the right questions to get to really core issues that people with an agenda gloss over. Love this.

@aceboogisback9946 10 ай бұрын

You're giving him way too much credit

@gametime2473 10 ай бұрын

I agree if by incredible, you mean in (opposite of) and credible (convincing).

@zotan 10 ай бұрын

but his questions aren't informed as he is not equipped to challenge this creationist's assertions about the claims he makes about evolution. asking "why do you think that?" is great as a first question but then it would be even better to be able to say "why do your claims fly in the face of MOUNTAINS of evidence that has been collected from all around the planet and studied by many many thousands of people also from all over the planet?" How does the fact that countless experimental and observational studies validate and expand upon our knowledge of how evolution works not change your view of how our world works? Because...god? What's wrong with having someone interview this guy who is at least familiar with the claims he's made and is making and who is familiar enough with the field of study to be able to ask an informed question as a followup? That isn't stifling anyone free speech,, it's giving them an opportunity to expand upon their claims. It also gives us as a viewer the opportunity to think, to also question what these so-called experts say. And by so-called experts in this case I am referring to the guest of course, the guy who some are defending because he has a degree in Philosophical Science which, did he get that degree online? He's not an expert in anything outside of creationism or intelligent design which are one and the same no matter how the fundamentalists try to say they're not.

@cygnusustus 10 ай бұрын

Joe Rogan failing to educate himself before interviews.

@jx4219 10 ай бұрын

@@gametime2473 +1. The guy is Anti-evolutionist. If he instead said the world is flat i would think no different about his mental state. He's an idiot.

@delight9311 6 ай бұрын

The string example doesn't work because successful changes are saved and passed down. Unsuccessful ones remove the new changes from the pool. The initial change might be random, but what is saved is not random, what is saved is selected for by the environment. He improperly extrapolates random change.

@Pikkabuu 6 ай бұрын

Creationist lying? Stop the presses...

@robertulrich3964 3 ай бұрын

they can't be past down due to inbuilt DNA repair mechanisms.

@Pikkabuu 3 ай бұрын

@@robertulrich3964 Please elaborate.

@Pegases0 2 ай бұрын

I am too wondering WTF you are talking about

@darrellowings2343 4 ай бұрын

He's being so gracious. Time is not just the hero of the plot it's the black box of magic we're not supposed to think too much about.

@mcmanustony 4 ай бұрын

This is utter fucking nonsense

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 8 күн бұрын

@slappymcbutterballs7326 9 ай бұрын

This was one of the best Rogan podcasts in a looooooong time.

@Agent_orange187 3 ай бұрын

Agreed because this podcast sucks

@slappymcbutterballs7326 3 ай бұрын

@@Agent_orange187 sometimes, yeah.

@bluestudio67 3 ай бұрын

@redpill589 it's difficult to think that the number one podcast in the world - the one with Nobel prize-winning scientists, world leaders and politicians, legendary superstars from bands like Pink Floyd, medical researchers and brilliant engineers - sucks, just because you say so. Usually, only far left extremist hooligans hate his podcast. So why do you? I'm genuinely curious.

@Agent_orange187 3 ай бұрын

@@bluestudio67 I’m definitely not a leftist I’m voting for Trump. I don’t like the bullshit they spew on these podcast

@bluestudio67 3 ай бұрын

@redpill589 anything in particular? Or just stuff in general?

@Linkingx2 10 ай бұрын

He listens and asks smart questions based on what was said, what he himself thinks and what he researched before hand - well done - thats how it should be

@cygnusustus 10 ай бұрын

He listens, but he certainly does not ask smart questions. He clearly does not research before hand. Not how it should be done.

@hahajones 10 ай бұрын

@@cygnusustusReally? Where can I listen to your interviews? And I’ll assume you also have the means and the platform to bring in some of the top minds in their individual fields as well. He IS a good interviewer, as shown by the respect his guests afford him and their continued presence year after year, not to mention the massive audience he accumulated from nothing in the basement of his apartment…Why even watch? And I say all of this not being a big fan of Rogan, but he is one of the best interviewers in the world today.

@cygnusustus 10 ай бұрын

@@hahajones That's not what makes a good interviewer, child.

@cygnusustus 10 ай бұрын

@@hahajones That's not what makes a good interviewer, child.

@lesliepropheter5040 10 ай бұрын

Yes, his approach gives the guest the ability to ‘go on a roll’, he interrupts to keep it rolling and does it when the guest gets a little out there, in this case, for the common man to keep track of. JR doesn’t always have to have researched everything, as in this case, scientific phenom

@Logosguy-fv1bj 7 ай бұрын

An interview with Stephen Myer was a long time coming for JR.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@Schnabelcraig 4 ай бұрын

This is a great example of how sounding persuasive is more important than being persuasive when convincing people. For example, he mentions that changing a random bit of code, you would expect degradation long before you would expect anything new and useful to arise. But this is not a perfect analogy to what we see in nature, there needs to be one more step: any random change that degrades the code is discarded, much like detrimental mutations that arise in nature. They don't survive, and only beneficial mutations remain. There isn't just one code, there's one version of code in every individual and ones that were randomly degraded will disappear.

@chris160108 3 ай бұрын

Spot on observation! I saw a similar YT short a week ago using that same code analogy and it felt flawed but I couldn't quite put into words why it felt that way.

@ianinkster2261 17 күн бұрын

In other words, the guest totally disregards selection. Random mutation + non-random selection = a non-random course of evolution.

@ianinkster2261 17 күн бұрын

Grandchildren exist They are miscopies of miscopies of code. With a tiny bit of luck, they survive. That is the ONLY degree of "luck" involved with the entire saga of life on Earth.

@chris4814b 10 ай бұрын

Joe has gotten so great at listening. Talks less than he used to. Allows the guests to have longer soliloquys

@scottjordan6483 10 ай бұрын

You're the first person I've seen use soliloquy in a sentence correctly. Bravo!

@matthewp5472 10 ай бұрын

@@scottjordan6483 He wrote a soliloquy. Now you've seen 2, you're welcome.

@Randy-jz9ox 10 ай бұрын

Ridiculous word

@hovan2yourjunk 10 ай бұрын

Yes…exactly what you want. Zero push back in an “interview” 🤦🏻‍♂️

@philosopher0076 10 ай бұрын

Wrong. Joe ALWAYS listened and talked this little...unless he had something pertinent to interject or inquire.

@jaythatdude 10 ай бұрын

2:36 Joe was looking like dam I need a joint right now 😂😂😂

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 10 сағат бұрын

@AussieCatholic 3 ай бұрын

This was fleshed out well by Pope Benedict XVI who said that the world has a great 'intelligibility' which corresponds incredibly neatly to the intellectual ability of the human mind. It's certainly an interesting argument. Einstein puts it somewhat more bluntly by saying 'The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible'. Interesting ideas. I'm glad Joe is actually having serious discussions with very clever philosophers about God, rather than just poking fun at straw-men. One doesn't have to agree with the 'other', but certainly we should be charitably engaging in one another's strongest arguments, not poking fun at each other. Great interview Joe.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@muranilife 5 ай бұрын

"Explanatory deficits." I love it.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 10 сағат бұрын

@stuartanderson6785 10 ай бұрын

I've always been fascinated by Stephen Meyer. He's such a smart guy and his theories are so well thought out and buttressed that it can get overwhelming. He's not a guy who's going to scream at you to convince yu of anything; in fact, his entire goal is not to convince but just to get his theories heard.

@oddriseraps8476 9 ай бұрын

Dr Stephen Meyer

@planes3333 9 ай бұрын

it should be the curriculum in schools, instead I find myself pretty much almost despising my christian friends who buy into macro evolution and Darwinism.........

@coptimal 9 ай бұрын

@@planes3333 How do you distinguish chemical from biological evolution Planes? Do you lump them together or separate them?

@planes3333 9 ай бұрын

How does a flegellum motor evolve, LOL evolution falls right apart, @@coptimal

@booberry6715 9 ай бұрын

@@planes3333I too have the DVD from about 20 years ago. ;) I never forgot about the flagellar shaft, bushing, bearings, etc. Great stuff!

@Rio_Seco 10 ай бұрын

It is a shame Francis Schaeffer is no longer with us. What a great interview that would be.

@tedhart7708 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, it would!👍🏻

@Gilfanon-2 10 ай бұрын

Or CS Lewis….

@aslan2709 10 ай бұрын

Bahnsen 😳

@danielaianas7401 4 ай бұрын

One of the best podcast out there. Smart and intelligent people discussing one of the biggest question: what is our purpose

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 4 ай бұрын

@RicoGamerCZ 3 ай бұрын

Yea, I think we'll pass bro

@bubbaray8000 3 ай бұрын

smart and intelligent? wow

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@@RicoGamerCZ Please don't ignore , Jesus loves you more than what you know God through the Holy Spirit has shown me several things relating to the afterlife with the purpose of convincing people like yourself. Stuff like Heaven and Hell, Angels, and evil Spirits the Lord Jesus (not worthy at all), a miracle happened to me that saved my life (thank you God) & so much more. I am more than happy to give further details.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@@bubbaray8000 God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven

@lukeb1456 3 ай бұрын

In layman's terms he said: you cant blow up a Bunnings hardware shop with everything inside of it to build a house and have one appear.

@owenduck 10 ай бұрын

I can't beleive we have cutting edge apologetics on joe rogan. This is amazing

@TruthSeaker 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree!! Rogan's audience needs to be exposed to the arguments for the Christian worldview, otherwise they won't be making an informed decision. This was a great discussion!

@sicsempertyrannishonk7197 10 ай бұрын

@@TruthSeaker I prefer we stick to reality and things within the realm of possibility. Which excludes Christianity 100%. Believing in a virgin birth is like believing men can be women. Change my mind.

@helethead 10 ай бұрын

@@sicsempertyrannishonk7197 he can’t, he has zero proof. It would be the biggest discovery in the history of mankind.

@liquidmagma 10 ай бұрын

@@sicsempertyrannishonk7197 "Which excludes Christianity 100%" tells everyone you're too smug in your insecurity to be able to change your mind.

@helethead 10 ай бұрын

@@liquidmagma “smug in your insecurity”. Wtf ? Smug in his security, is what you mean. It’s simple, show some demonstrably provable facts. It’s been thousands of years, where are the facts?

@555atU 10 ай бұрын

Get John Lennox on...he is great too.

@Adam_A_Christian 10 ай бұрын

^Yes!

@gregswaney6329 3 ай бұрын

This is Joe Rogans' most intriguing interview

@johnbishara3795 3 ай бұрын

Thank God for Joe giving intelligent believers a platform in which to speak freely. More please.

@mcmanustony 3 ай бұрын

who the fuck do you think is censoring Meyer? He is head zealot at a well funded right wing, Christian fundamentalist pressure group. The generate propaganda 24/7 via websites, blogs, radio shows, Jesus TV, broadcasts from mega churches, ludicrous videos polluting KZbin etc. everything in fact, except peer reviewed publications in the professional literature of the sciences they abuse. Meyer managed to get, via a crooked crony, an essay into the Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. As the review process had been cheated by Sternberg to sneak it in behind the backs of the board of editors, the "paper" was instantly dropped. Why are creationists so fundamentally and relentlessly dishonest?

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 8 күн бұрын

@Veronika7777 10 ай бұрын

Mr. Rogan is a highly highly skilled interviewer, in that he rarely if ever, talks over or interrupts his guests. He asks pointed questions out of a genuine desire to understand. It's especially interesting to listen to different perspectives that may not necessarily align with views Mr. Rogan himself espouses, because he DOES give them time to explain their view and is also not afraid to counter with his own preconceived notions. Who's right? Ultimately who cares, because both parties come out having learned something. Bravo, this was awesome. 💜

@oliver0656 10 ай бұрын

Bingo

@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot 9 ай бұрын

You said who cares if somebody is right?Well if he's right and God does exist, and you haven't yet gotten right with Him, then you're in big, big trouble. This is very important. Matter of life and death in fact. Open the Bible and read. You didn't come around by chance. You are special, loved and with a soul. Jesus, the Son of God died for your sins so you could live. You can't repay Him, but you can accept His gift of salvation and eternal life. Repent, believe, change your ways and receive Jesus into your heart! With Him there is truly joy and peace. And you will inherit life in God's eternal kingdom! Wow! Life isn't long ya know. Live it right. And one last thing- you don't have to die to meet Jesus! May God bless you! 😊

@jacksonmorganfroghin4815 8 ай бұрын

@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alotGreat comment. We owe it to all people to tell them the truth in love, which you did very well. "Christ died for us while we were yet sinners." He didn't wait for us to get our act together. That's exactly what people are hungry to hear! Thank you doing just that!!

@MrCandiB 5 ай бұрын

Piers Morgan has left the chat

@MrCandiB 5 ай бұрын

@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alotHi, I'm curious as to what you mean by trouble? Because I don't think you can ever be in trouble with God. God's love is unconditional which means God will welcome you home NO MATTER WHAT you've done. You can create all the trouble you want for yourself here but that's entirely up to you...but you can never be in God's bad books. I'd say the worst case scenario is that God misses you.

@DrChrisLockwood 10 ай бұрын

Back in 2005, when I went back for my PhD and before I was familiar w/ Dr Meyer, I read Dr Kenneth R. Miller's book, "Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution" (Harper Perennial, 1999; New York, NY). If you appreciate and can keep up with Dr Meyer and the brilliant arguments he poses in support of strong scientific evidence more in support of a Creator and Creation event than not, Dr Miller's book is another must-read.

@briancristina2890 7 ай бұрын

Excellent

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 10 сағат бұрын

@erikricardoboscolo4779 2 ай бұрын

The problem was never the notion of a creator. The problem was who's to tell what or who that creator is, and what that creator really expects.

@385nol1 10 ай бұрын

Awesome interview. Love Stephen Meyer, and kudos to Joe for bringing a Christian on when I kind of think of him as a closet athesist. That takes courage.

@manuelgodoy92 9 ай бұрын

He’s definitely not a closet atheist he has said he’s an atheist before he probably just doesn’t care to mention that to every interviewer for the sake of the interview

@jamesmcgaha5166 6 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he's stated he's agnostic and many times said he believes in a higher power just not organized religion

@jamesmcgaha5166 5 ай бұрын

@@manuelgodoy92 he has quite literally said he is not an atheist but more of an agnostic if anything on his podcast with Stephen Meyer he even brings up how weird it is everyone assumes he is atheist online

@kencritchley5546 10 ай бұрын

Great clip. Gonna have to find the whole interview. Joe, that is the way to do an interview.

@cairuibo 6 ай бұрын

Here is Zen's way of proving the uniformity of nature: 1, Teacher, rings a bell, 2, Student, rings a bell

@titan1235813 19 күн бұрын

Joe Rogan is one of THE greatest interviewers I've ever heard. He always lets the invited have his/her views exposed without interrupting, asks excellent questions, gives usually very sound explanations on the topic in discussion, and always respectful. Basically, a top notch professional in his field.

@Pikkabuu 19 күн бұрын

So why didn't Mr. Professional then point out that this was nothing more than a longwinded way of saying that "God did it"?

@titan1235813 19 күн бұрын

@@Pikkabuu The only thing that I reply to trolls is this: sod off.

@Pikkabuu 19 күн бұрын

@@titan1235813 So you are a snowflake who cares more about feelings than facts...

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 16 күн бұрын

@titan1235813 16 күн бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 The only thing that I reply to a troll is this: sod off.

@NOOBNOOB007 10 ай бұрын

could u imagine this guy trying to have this conversation with Neil degrassi tyson he would bust in like the kool-aid man cutting him off. this guy is very good at articulating his thoughts into words like a writer.

@auglazeallday5335 10 ай бұрын

I guess Joe played the part of Tyson. I stopped listening to their convo due to Joe's constant interruption.

@aaronscottmatthews7883 10 ай бұрын

ROFL that's a hilarious image Yeah with a topic as delicate as this you really have to have your arguments tight and in order

@justamurse5646 10 ай бұрын

“Black science man bad and the guy I like who confirms my biases would be badass and totally shut him down”. Science and facts don’t care about your feelings or mythological beliefs.

@thisguy2604 10 ай бұрын

@@justamurse5646, right to race, super scientific

@luisclaudio4622 10 ай бұрын

Tyson has been asked to debate Meyer. He's refused to do so.

@RiseChristianNews 8 ай бұрын

A Scientist, working over 40 years, finally made a human life out of dust in a laboratory. He ran outside and screamed up at the sky "You see that God! Now that I have created human life out of dust, we no longer have any need of you!!!!" God looking down, quite amused said "Oh really?" "Yes really," the scientist exclaimed, "I will show you how I did it." "Oh, I can't wait to see this" God replied, leaning in for a closer look. The scientist then reached down to gather a handful of dust from the ground when God interrupted "Whoah whoah whoah, use your own dust."

@LiquidKaos1911 5 ай бұрын

lovelight this!!

@kjhlkyu 5 ай бұрын

That's just the god of the gaps argument again. "Who made the dust?" So, it's a Big Bang, origins of the universe issue; hence GOTG.

@user-br6ve4lz6n Ай бұрын

@@kjhlkyu Right...so who kicked off the big bang? It couldn't have been another big bang (ad infinitum) because then 'now' could have never arrived. So it must have been something outside of space and outside of time. Such a thing would need or lack nothing....i.e. God...

@noobmaster006 Ай бұрын

@kjhlkyu i think u need open books and learn what god of the gaps argument actually is

@adamodimattia 5 ай бұрын

It's a nice metaphor with a tornado assembling a car but it is not all accurate. For example a complete human was not "assembled" all at once. Even given the chaotic nature of the "assembly" process, at first some small most basic "parts" were assembled. Then those parts were assembled into slightly bigger and more complex parts and so on. Moreover those parts weren't completely "stupid" and inanimate like car parts. On each level of complexity they had some kind of there own autonomous behaviour and different behaviours among different parts determine how those parts may or may not interact with each other event inside a chaotic tornato. Some parts may never be able to connect while others may attract when close to one another. This factor strongly diminishes the amount of chaos involved. The more complex and defined the elements become, the less chaotic interactions between them. Overall the meraphor of tornado and junk is somewhat shallow and contains logical errors.

@JeffMTX 3 ай бұрын

If a person believes something, then they are employing some degree of faith. I don’t think it’s admirable to boast of faithlessness, but that’s just me. I think “believers” are disappointed when they can’t “convince” someone to share their faith. Maybe we ought not worry so much about that.

@davegaskell7680 3 ай бұрын

@@JeffMTX In a nutshell, non believers are non believers because they require more persuasive evidence in order to be persuaded. Believers should be able to convince a non believer by saying why they believe. That they cant convince a non believer means their reasons for believing arent persuasive.

@JeffMTX 3 ай бұрын

@@davegaskell7680 You might want to keep in mind the concept of one's personal choice to believe something (ie behave as if it is known to be true) simply because one *chooses* to do so. We operate all through our lives with incomplete information about things. If one waits until one has an exhaustive complement of information about a thing before he or she acts, the person will never accomplish anything. These statements are known to be true. I'm not debating with you. I'm trying to help you. Let's not talk any more, but these statements might be worth thinking about, for your benefit, say over the next year. They have the potential to be useful to you.

@davegaskell7680 3 ай бұрын

@@JeffMTX I wouldn't use the word "choose" in the way you do with regard to truth claims. I don't accept that we can choose what we believe. Happy not to debate with you though.....I'm just providing this statement for you to think about, to help you, for your benefit ;-)

@MrBlack-by5xf 3 ай бұрын

The cell, and how all the components and organelles etc. supposedly emerged, is incomprehensible. There would be no reason, no selective incentive for proto-viruses/viruses/self replicating molecules to become cells, and then there would further be no mechanism to incorporate the structures of the organelles and varied features of more complex cells. It's like a bad joke when this gets discussed at a high level. It basically becomes, "somehow, somewhere, in an ocean of time, each structure of the cell emerged." Simply put, No. Not rational.

@Mark-hu9tf 5 ай бұрын

Not one single denier of evolution has been able to explain the existence of vestigual structures and organs with any degree of competence.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 10 сағат бұрын

@african3974 9 ай бұрын

I truly appreciate this guy's mind. S.Meyer is truly, according to me, one of the great thinkers of our time. He's calm way of addressing heated topics- all while explaining it in such a way that can make sense .... conveying it as a form of "layman's term" type statement. Easy even for the common mind to grasp....

@descartes7126 9 ай бұрын

he's a layman at best - a fringe apologist, anti science. You can't be convinced that there is a god and then apply a scientific method since you have already made up your mind that any unanswered issue will be deducted to a god. There is a reason why this dude has no scientific credibility outside of american evangelicals (talibans)

@globalcoupledances 9 ай бұрын

He needs more thinking

@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC 9 ай бұрын

Meyers ideas need way more time in the oven. They are unedible.

@Pikkabuu 6 ай бұрын

How is he a great thinker when he just spouts the usual creationist PRATT's?!

@SpatialandTemporal 6 ай бұрын

This is the problem is that some of the concepts of Darwinian natural selection are counterintuitive and conveying them in layman's terms to people that do not understand the complexities of the arguments make it easy to bamboozle people. It inevitably takes the form of a God of the gaps argument. There's no doubt he has a brilliant mind and seems like a personable guy, but his mind, in reality, is made up already. In my opinion, he's just looking for cracks to shove a God shaped wedge into.

@w.cameronbigler3300 10 ай бұрын

I listened to the whole thing as I was very interested in seeing how this would go given the guest's known convictions. I write this comment after having read a bunch in the hopes that someone on the Rogan team captures significant themes from these comments/responses and Rogan thoughtfully considers them. I realize that I am assuming the theme of "Rogan seemed different and navigated this interview in a way that came of to me, and many others it appears, as having a difficult-to-pin-down negative edge to it" is significant. - I agree that Rogan seemed off and coming from an unusual place in this conversation. - I am not sure I heard Rogan say anything like, "I don't necessarily agree with you, although that is a great point, and a worthy argument" when many of the points seemed to merit that type of acknowledgement regardless of your beliefs or bias or possible animosity. -There seemed to be a lack of enthusiasm to learn and reflect in the moment that Rogan is known for (in my opinion) -It seemed as if Rogan came in expecting to confront someone who was going to proselytize and he didn't get that and so the points he made came of as pre-meditated and scripted and ill-timed. -Meyers explanation of his "Divine interventions and guidance" came off as flat and mundane and were seemingly downplayed by Rogan as "growing up and maturing and simply getting better" to put it my way (although they were in question form). -Recognizing selfishness and moving away from it to selflessness is a big freaking deal and not everyone comes from destitution or horrific (or even mild) trauma and has a redemption story that is universally compelling. That is not "anyone's fault" per se just as being born a crack addict or an alcoholic is not a child's fault (or ever their fault). And that does not diminish the relative impact of one's character defects on their life and the struggle to overcome, and what is necessary for some to overcome them. Are there first world problems - sure. That said, selfishness, regret, shame, fear, guilt and all the rest have trashed many lives that were at one time revered and desired. -Meyer showed openness and tact when Joe went into psychedelics and fertility rituals as the basis for Christianity, and his own experiences with the "other" via psychedelics. Talk about a major curve ball if you are hearing this for the first time. It seemed like an in-your-face challenge born of a kind of snooty defiance. Like, "go ahead, deny the authenticity of my experience". Meyer was open and respectful used a Biblical reference to leave room for this as an avenue to God. -I would have expected the same level of openness and acknowledgment and respect for Meyer's religious experiences and their impact on his life. It is all relative. -Those are just some examples and others have noted more. -It just felt different, especially with Meyers' approach. -It felt like there was a strange and dismissive and antagonistic type of undertone that resulted in leaving a lot on the table. Maybe the topics themselves were not compelling more broadly and Joe was trying to spice it up...and I feel like that is reaching pretty far on my part. -Maybe Meyer pissed Joe off in the run-up...???

@user-lg1oo6ev7k 10 ай бұрын

Who's Joe Rogan?

@planes3333 10 ай бұрын

You make a good point. I think Joe is so guarded about faith in Jesus he is facing spiritual battles and also public, he seems like he doesnt want to consider a hell, sin or god so he has put up walls.

@georgelasich482 10 ай бұрын

Well put, I perceived all of the same things. The flow of the conversation at times was bumpy, especially when Joe threw in the psychedelic talk. Stephen handled the whole negative undertone of the interview with humility. I suspect he has encountered a lot of it in the past. Once we get past our own pride and ego, can we accept and ponder these types of questions. I applaud Joe for airing this episode even though it seems to go against his core belief.

@georgelasich482 10 ай бұрын

@@planes3333 agreed. As a born again Christian at age 40, I fought all of the same points Joe is for the past 20 years of my life. I believe there are negative forces hindering us from accepting God. We don’t want to be accountable for all of our sin. We don’t want to be the ones not in control. Once we accept that we are created by Him, we can see clearly the intricacies of life. I know I sound preachy, but this has been a huge last couple years in my life. Coming from a mainstream scientific background, it is hard to break free from certain ideas.

@planes3333 10 ай бұрын

@@georgelasich482 Its the truth. I can relate to the same forces trying to keep us away from his throne, my pride, my flesh, my sin, my shame.............I think a lot of the time people have known lots of family and friends who have died and the thought that they are in hell freaks people out and they too want to deny a creator and a hell and a god. Those things are all too true! I have my own sins though and I have kind of gone sideways half of my life in falling to addictions, (i just had 10 months sober and I fell again, I am awaiting detox in a couple days, its easy to lose faith at those times too, ..... but the truth is the truth and I cant ever deny there is a loving Jesus, so I follow and stumble. nice talking to you

@williampaul8556 5 ай бұрын

It is so exciting to question and not know. I love the adventure of the quest to know more. Never understood those who have their minds made up! It just never made sense to me. Do you still see the world like you did when you were 5 years old?

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@randywoodruff9989 5 ай бұрын

Bravo great explanations

@Pikkabuu 5 ай бұрын

How is God of the gaps argument a great explanation?

@MarioMancinelli82 5 ай бұрын

Bot

@floridamarketplaceministry7011 10 ай бұрын

I’ve gotten great comfort from reading the Bible.

@dark_sunset 10 ай бұрын

You look like a guy who would be comforted by fairytales.

@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын

Jesus started one church The Roman Catholic Church

@user-xu4xj2cd2j 10 ай бұрын

@@PInk77W1he started Christianity not prostesfants or catholics

@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын

@@user-xu4xj2cd2j yes and the church Jesus started grew into the Roman Catholic Church

@number4777. 2 ай бұрын

@@PInk77W1what’s your fckn point?

@carramrod82 10 ай бұрын

I don't get why Joe Rogan repeatedly says he's not atheist, but constantly fights against the possibility of God.

@ThisIsApollo23 10 ай бұрын

Devils advocate... lol

@jorgealvarado7946 10 ай бұрын

Iron sharpens iron. Tough questions lead to necessary answers. As a Christian, I question Christianity to the point where people think I’m against Christianity, but in truth, I’m just trying to refine ideologies that usually have no origin in the Bible (kinda like Christmas)

@757History 10 ай бұрын

Joe is a professional fence sitter. He's mastered the art of playing both sides of the board thereby earning praise from all sides for having an open mind.

@crapton9002 10 ай бұрын

There are 8k religions and many God's. Who's God is the real God? It's a business that tries to get us to tune into a certain God depending on where one is born. I remain open minded about such matters.

@kylematheny1885 10 ай бұрын

Devils advocate, it makes for good conversation in complex conversations

@WhiteNacho 7 ай бұрын

I completely agree!

@robertmurrill165 7 ай бұрын

some people love to hear themselves talk period

@dustinmurphy82able 10 ай бұрын

No way! Sweet! All the prayers for Joe are really paying off. This year has been a different Joe! I love Dr Meyer!

@jensheedy 10 ай бұрын

I will start praying as well. I’ve not known how my brother could ever hear the truth, but I believe he could hear it from Joe.

@dustinmurphy82able 10 ай бұрын

@@jensheedy I will pray for that as well. And pray that anyone who sees this will also say a prayer for your brother to find the truth!

@joelstromberg2392 9 ай бұрын

🤦

@NeoThanosA5O 9 ай бұрын

All those prayer for kids with cancer, God: let's throw these in the bin. It's time to work on those prayers for Joe, much more important 😂

@manuelgodoy92 9 ай бұрын

🤦🏻‍♂️

@SamIRIZARRY84 10 ай бұрын

AAAHHH! ive been saying for quite a while that Stephen Meyer should be on the JRP. So glad he's able to give Joe an alternate perspective on things. Great interview!

@aphaseelec 10 ай бұрын

Rogan was listening but he could see through the bullshit

@skeletonmade 10 ай бұрын

@@aphaseelecur opinion

@RobertM55533 10 ай бұрын

Wow, a mind reader...cooool!

@jesusisthetruth2061 10 ай бұрын

@@aphaseelec if the claims of Christianity were true, would you be a Christian?

@CiscoWes 10 ай бұрын

@@aphaseelec That's a strange takeaway from the discussion. Meyer basically dismantled all the "bullshit" with surgical precision. Maybe you meant Meyer?

@bradleyjordan5365 3 ай бұрын

It's like having a flat pack piece of furniture with 300 components and a random word generator and expecting the generator to eventually form a complete list of instructions of how to assemble the parts and in what order.

@007feck 2 ай бұрын

I’m fascinated how some people get so sceptical that there are still some gaps to fill in evolutionary theory, but when asked to provide anything about god they are happy to accept zero evidence… he was the most articulate delusional person I e heard for a while though, I’ll give him that…

@jimr5855 10 ай бұрын

"Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution" is a great interview with David Berlinski, David Gelernter, and Stephen Meyer. It's quite amazing anyone could still believe the origin of life was just a series or random events.

@HDvids101 10 ай бұрын

Biological stuff tests until it evolves better. This is how things get better and smarter and more efficient. It has forever to get better and so here we are. "God" exists but think of it a more of a System type way. Love is the source.

@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 10 ай бұрын

@@HDvids101 And that's scientifically and logically nonsensical. Infinite probability does not give infinite results. Rationality does not come from irrationality, the burden of proof is on those who say it does, the naturalist. Naturalism by extension is predicated on a mechanism that does not exist and can not because otherwise the universe is the answer for everything it invalidates all human achievement and personhood. Also evolution is nonsensical because information doesn't magically move to a higher state overtime it degrades like entropy and information theory logically asserts.

@timmckee2813 10 ай бұрын

communication takes practice...involves learning how to listen, think, respectfully respond, learn, and teach...jre...excellent communicator...love...

@Maxharddrive64 5 ай бұрын

Art Bell would be proud JoeRogan. Bell would have guests similar on his show, they were either shocking or interesting or from a different perspective. Rogan has taken that torch now.

@GodHelpMe369 3 ай бұрын

Attachment styles are about more than romance. They’re wired into the core of our nervous systems, and they’re a foundational element of who we are. They show up every time we get stressed - in any relationship. Unresolved wounding is what causes us to be so insecure. If you want to feel security, connection, and confidence in every aspect of your life, then you MUST learn how to solve the conflict/repair cycle because that’s the foundation of it all. The journey doesn’t end by learning your attachment style. It’s just the beginning.

@evanw.3473 3 ай бұрын

You *just* took a class.....right?

@MuslimJusticeNetworkAlliance 10 ай бұрын

Well done on interviewing him.

@Hawk_Rider_WV 10 ай бұрын

It is obvious that this fella is a really nice guy. I like him. He is a nice guy, i would wager in the real world too. thanks for the clip.

@propertypros3187 2 ай бұрын

It's good to see how many intelectuals are down to go on Joe's show. This guest's got the big brains. Enjoyable interview and topic.

@jonathanrufenacht4714 10 ай бұрын

Great conversation. I would highly encourage listening to the whole podcast. Fanstastic.

@RollYourRock 10 ай бұрын

Link?

@CR7R10DG19 10 ай бұрын

@@RollYourRock spotify

@Sometimeslifeiscrazy 10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, this guy doesn’t actually have any evidence to support his claims. He made that very clear on this podcast by stating he had evidence so many times, but not producing any of it. He changed his ideas so many times even on the podcast it’s clear that he wants to believe this stuff. But that it clearly does not have the evidence to back it up.

@ANIMALS_MISTAKEN_HC_MUSIC 10 ай бұрын

Why? This was already boring and nonsensical.

@stademeister15 10 ай бұрын

@@Sometimeslifeiscrazy I disagree. In this clip alone he provides evidence, e.g. Darwin's finches, computer coding, that demonstrate a compelling argument for the logical soundness of his point of view. It may be that the evidence you're looking for is of a different kind than what he brings, but that does not negate the veracity of his claims.

@malleus.maleficarum.24 10 ай бұрын

Just finished this discussion. Excellent. I want to see Stephen C Meyer do a long-form discussion with Jacob Chansley.

@dennisclass 10 ай бұрын

QAnon Shamon? He was sentenced for many years.

@robertsmithington8892 3 ай бұрын

The Austrians have made some amazing contributions to the world when it comes to intellectual thought. They actually created the study of economics, called praxeology, or the study of human action, which analysis the choices individuals make in a society, using logic and reason. Unfortunately, the West gave up on economics in favor of socialism. The Western “intellectuals” are now dismissing the Austrians in their criticism of evolution. If we look at where dismissing the Austrians got us so far, we can safely say that it’s time we start listening to them more.

@jesterlead 3 ай бұрын

If you want to see how a computer can actually program better over time (mutation), check out Adrian Thompson's experiment with FPGA's over a long period of mutations. What Meyer is missing the boat on is it's not about if a mutation created complexity, it's if it was more advantageous at the time. The mutation didn't know it was more complex - it was the fact the primitive eye which could distinguish light, mutated and now could distinguish movement as well....was selected because of it's advantage.

@todpeterson6976 3 ай бұрын

Bingo

@c.galindo9639 8 ай бұрын

Interesting conversation and really a lot needs to be delved into in order to fully understand the concept of such ways of thinking. What an interesting guest appearance

@KronStaro 6 ай бұрын

you mean like simply thinking for yourself? lol

@c.galindo9639 6 ай бұрын

@@KronStaro you were intelligent enough to figure it out so continue on your journey with whatever you accept in thinking for yourself

@oggyoggy1299 5 ай бұрын

I hope you’re joking.

@c.galindo9639 5 ай бұрын

@@oggyoggy1299 if that’s what you got out of this then I need not explain what you have already accepted from this

@scarysun15 5 ай бұрын

@@c.galindo9639Einstein over here

@bryant475 10 ай бұрын

So glad he had Dr. Stephen Meyer on, God is clearly working on him! Please have on Dr. Frank Turek, Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. William Lane Craig, J Warner Wallace, Lee Strobel!

@jonedmunds8383 10 ай бұрын

dr. James white too

@MoreSCI-LessFI 9 ай бұрын

Frank Turek is the Homer Simpson of christian apologetics.

@robertraab 3 ай бұрын

@@MoreSCI-LessFI He's the half eatn donut Homer drops on the floor.

@bewl2641 2 ай бұрын

Given an *INFINITE* amount of possibilities, what we see as reality is possible. The concept of a god is the same as the concept of infinity.

@yoannybatista4202 3 ай бұрын

Yep… two men walking through the dessert came upon a crate. They opened it and found a car engine completely built mated to a transmission ready to be put in car. Nicely packaged still in great shape. One said “ oh! Someone must have made this machine and maybe it fell of a truck while being shipped away from the factory. The other said “ nope. Actually it built itself through billions of years. All its independent parts rearranged themselves into this marvelous contraption. It probably even was a bicycle at one point”

@Pikkabuu 3 ай бұрын

Horrible argument as car engines don't reproduce on their own!

@richardgregory3684 3 ай бұрын

Good grief, are you guys still clinging to the Watchmaker analogy? Licing things reproduce, human made artefacts don't.

@ianinkster2261 17 күн бұрын

The car engine is a product of biological evolution and human behavioural genetics. Tools are part of the human life cycle, as are spider webs. That is to say they are part of the cascade of activities set in motion by the human genome at conception (growth, puberty, toolmaking, hunting, mating etc), which is the roundabout procedure whereby the human genome makes copies of itself. This is the principle of the extended phenotype. Point is, nobody is reaching for some weird alternative explanation to avoid what you think is the obvious. Evolution is the origin of feet, boots, and bootprints, wings are aeroplanes alike.

@scottlosey4978 10 ай бұрын

It's been since college since I heard the word epistemology (the study of knowledge and how knowledge is acquired).

@hankstorey64 10 ай бұрын

That seems like it’s kinda on you…

@AlexMeyer. 9 ай бұрын

As a Meyer myself, I want to apologize for the statements and actions of this individual. The Meyer High Council will be convening soon to discuss Stephen's banishment. Thank you.

@GaneshGunaji 4 ай бұрын

It ultimately doesn't matter whether you want to believe what the theory of evolution has to say about the life history of the planet. You concede "microevolution" occurs, and lots of "microevolutions" leads to "macroevolutions". You're welcome to have doubts and demand further clarification, but that isn't evidence for your hypothesis.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 4 ай бұрын

@grantnelson5591 5 ай бұрын

Id love to hear his thoughts on the hominids

@simpleciscovoicetutorials79 10 ай бұрын

This was one of the few podcasts where I found Joe to be unpleasantly argumentative.

@heythere6983 10 ай бұрын

Watch the one with him and the ceo of whole foods

@dreddykrugernew 5 ай бұрын

Whats really trippy is sharks are older than trees, thats a brain cruncher...

@glok1989 3 ай бұрын

Really great thoughts.

@AlCapwnd-tb5ow 2 ай бұрын

Honestly, not really

@justinjackson2588 9 ай бұрын

I have always been super into science. As a high school and college kid, I had a basic knowledge of science and thought the stuff they said in church was silly and murky, so I went agnostic. Then, as I got older and deep dived into the nature of reality, I really saw the power and beauty of reality, and then god made much more sense as an explanation. Either their are gagillions of universes most of which dont work and we inhabit one that does or something made this. So reality works the way it works because it has to work that way, so whether by chance or by design the dominoes all fall just perfectly from the very tiniest scales all the way to the incomprhensibly large scales. Anyway. I am grateful to exist. I think it is appropriate to tell the chef they made good food, and I hope I get the opportunity to tell god that this existence thing is pretty neat.

@mbg4681 9 ай бұрын

>> I really saw the power and beauty of reality, and then god made much more sense as an explanation. The god hypothesis has _exactly_ ZERO explanatory power.

@justinjackson2588 9 ай бұрын

@mbg4681 But mbg... which one makes more sense to you and your understanding of reality? Which explanation, I mean. And, I guess by explanation, I mean story based on guesswork do you feel most comfortable with?

@justinjackson2588 9 ай бұрын

@@mbg4681 I do hope you respond. I will be very amused by your response.

@mbg4681 9 ай бұрын

@@justinjackson2588 >> But mbg... which one makes more sense to you and your understanding of reality? Which explanation, I mean. Anything that has survived contact with objective facts about the world, really. The theory of evolution, the theories of relativity, atomic theory, cognitivism, newtonian mechanics, germ theory... >> And, I guess by explanation, I mean story based on guesswork do you feel most comfortable with? Any story that has yet to be superseded by a superior explanation (including the null explanation). >> I do hope you respond. I will be very amused by your response. I'm not entirely sure what would count as amusing in what I have written above, but you're welcome.

@justinjackson2588 9 ай бұрын

@mbg4681 hey mgmb what do you mean about "anything that has survived contact with objective... I dont remember the entirety of that inane and incoherent response? I understand that you are a glorified monkey doing your best to understand the world around you. But damn son... try harder.

@MyPronounsISwhom 10 ай бұрын

And 33 years old and since I was about 11 12 years old I have known of Dr Kent hovind, and relayed some of his teachings from the Bible from a scientific stance to my friends at the time to kind of see what they saw in this world. I knew the stuff I could make sense of was from my growing up in a Bible teaching church and the stuff I didn't understand was from my lack of years on this earth and knowledge there within. What that said I had gained a lot of confidence in the fact that I believed in something that couldn't be shaken to eventually be broken down, and had a fair bit of truth I was believing in. And though Dr Kent hovind has his pretty far out there beliefs on certain things, the things that I really hold true and dear to my heart is the stuff relating to the truth of the almighty God, the one true God, creator whom is here and everywhere and has always been and forever will be. I sense the truth spreading and it comforts my soul. This guy hit it on the nose in this video here from JRE ... God bless.

@swansequence 5 ай бұрын

I was here for more details on the thumbnail photo and would love to know where I can watch the full episode

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@overkillblackjack2910 2 ай бұрын

You know you're in trouble when your guest says, "Just hear me out, and a lot of what I am about to say, I outlined in my book "Darwin's Doubt."" This man sounds solid.

@jn846 10 ай бұрын

we are evolving in how we think about evolution! I really like how he dichotomized the specific aspects of evolution theory that he disagrees with. I have felt the same way but never had the vocabulary to express it.

@mattmcdonald7112 4 ай бұрын

Meyers does a good job of attacking the unknown gaps in scientific knowledge, bearing in mind this approach is literally filling any knowledge gaps with a presupposition.

@calebsicard6690 10 ай бұрын

Joe is asking questions for people who question everything he’s arguing for them just in case they feel like this man isn’t saying the goods. Atleast thats what I think

@tovita007 10 ай бұрын

I have debated this on occasion, but never as much during this episode.

@Sapwolf 10 ай бұрын

Rogan is human and has biases, beliefs, etc. He is insecure when his beliefs are challenged even indirectly by Meyer, who is not out to get Rogan. People are like that.