Breaking Down Why The Music Industry Is RUINED! | Joe Budden Explains

[@shawnmcgoogin2882]

F a rap battle, it’s a long life battle with yourself ‼️‼️‼️

[@mvib1604]

Kenny scorched him soo badly... 🔥🔥🔥

[@sammokoena8642]

"Dear baby girl" Kendrick Duckworthy Lamar 2024

[@yahmoms8022]

​@@sammokoena8642I'm sorry....who????🤔

[@yahmoms8022]

Kendrick Lamar Duckworth

[@LaliladaAnamina]

Is it me or are these other guys yes men to Joe Budden, I respect them but they all repeating what he says or am I trippin, overall it’s a good conversation but it’s something my I noticed a few times.

[@jmass3738]

There's too much competition for music these days. Millions of new songs are added to the universe every year. KZbin and all the other apps are growing in daily users. There's only 24 hours in the day. I hop in the car and listen to podcasts these days. People who do music need to understand and adapt just like everyone else.

[@jasminedtucker]

There are thousands of applicants for most good paying jobs, you gon stop applying if that job is in alignment with your passion/dream? Real musicians make music regardless of circumstances . I recorded a whole album stationed in Mississippi. I drove 10 hrs to Dallas and back every other weekend to go to the studio for 6 months. When you have a true passion. You will never quit.

[@mikediddyTV]

@@jasminedtuckerdid you release that album? The difference is, they not making music as passionate as they did in the beginning when they were hungry. They are making music just to chart on radio. Artists like Prince, MJ, Stevie made music regardless if they released it or not. Lots of artists doesn’t have that passion anymore because of how the industry robs artists.

[@macmillysoanti4357]

I’m 33 and can rap my ass off . Two red flags . I’m “old” and “unknown” . I don’t walk inside the studio tryna make hits to get rich and gain 1m followers , I make music because I’m good at the shit and love to do it 😂 . Ppl without musical talent don’t understand this

[@TravelsightsTS]

But the radio stations still playing the same five artists. Taylor Swift, Drake, and the same random party songs we've heard for the past 20 years 😅. I enjoy Spotify cause I get a wide array of good artists. The wealth needs to be shared vs concentrating it among the top three guys in every space.

[@greengemaudio4830]

@@jasminedtucker That sounds good but not all musicians can't all occupy the billboard 100. If you have kids or even family who depend on you it's not feasible long term. The harsh stats is the creative industry is very low compared every other industry. Hope that you find success in whatever you do but don't put yourself in a box you could be more successful running an online store or some other business venture.

[@alesiaday7453]

I can't begin to imagine what Drake's experienced during this "battle" when it dawned on him that many he thought were his friends weren't. The really sad thing is-he may not recognize his contributions to that. His arrogance may not allow him to. Good luck to him.

[@GriffinPoole]

damn, that's heavy...

[@aq5118]

Facts..great observation

[@fredricksmith8760]

Cry me a river dude, grow a pair. He's going through the same thing Meek went through. What goes around comes around.

[@alesiaday7453]

@@fredricksmith8760 Why would I cry you a river? I don't know or care what Meek Mills went through. I'm opining about Drake only on his inability to see the error of his ways.

[@xbilliamsx]

He been talking about it damn near every project since so far gone I think he knows lol

[@nuggetsnicole4851]

Lack of artist development, streaming, and social media killed the industry. Over exposed so stars don't feel like stars. Plus the every man can become something tomorrow with 1 viral post.

[@john-tr8jy]

I don't think it's that complex. I think there's only so far ignorant BS music can go. Black men aren't on that wave anymore. This is why Kendrick is #1. As folks get older, they want music that makes them look good not that clown BS.

[@prishaluv]

Right on the nose with this one!

[@tersooachineku]

That was the PLAN. They just weren't suppose to RUIN the damn INDUSTRY to achieve that LOL. At least we're here now. All that remains is to fix the INDUSTRY and we'll be good to go. Now we'll have the VIRALs and the BRED.

[@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH]

LACK OF ARTIST DEVELOPMENT! People don’t talk about that enough! Artist Development was such an integral and important part of why music production used to be SOOOOOO POLISHED AND WELL DONE!

[@idesel]

You summed it up beautifully. Rather than focusing on making good music and building a certian aura around yourself, you have to be up on social media everyday performing antics like a clown to boost engagement and stay relevant. Back in the day you felt like you owned the world while holding a physical copy of your favorite artist cassette/CD.

[@TraciD512]

When they stopped doing ARTIST DEVELOPMENT. it started going down hill!

[@JusNBL2000]

I’m developed

[@JohnBurgundy]

🎯

[@joshuaBrooks.nicholas]

Facts bruh I told folks we need to bring it back

[@donemu9096]

All artists that go through Artist Development are called Industry Plants nowadays.

[@CyrusIsnt]

It was dying since mp3 files became the to transfer music. Remember back in the day the the only way to hear a full album was having the disc or a concert. When music got turned into files and uploaded, artist started uploading their whole album. You cant not really sell music when buying is only a suggestion. None of have to pay anything.

[@RobMarcel]

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[@LucindaGrace-lq1op]

I'm highly inspired. Please spill some sugar about the bi-weekly stuff you mentioned.

[@RobMarcel]

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[@NateMilla]

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[@GinaMarie-o3g]

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[@GinaMarie-o3g]

I started with a miserly $1500. The results have been mind blowing I must say TBH!

[@ghanaman001]

Music evolves and there's no new sound to create. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Met someone who predicted "after afrobeats and drill, a 2000's wave would come about and after that it's nothing left to do but recreate, which may cause monotonous sounds, leading to a crash in Music as a whole"

[@Rev911.]

Tru....that new Summer Walker joint is somethin' outta the 90's

[@Spencera224]

We are blaming labels for artists making shitty music and being uncreative, stubborn and not trying new things?? Explain what a label is gonna do when an artist doesn't even listen to the producers, writers and team around them in the first place. They pick the same sounding bullshit beats and write the same song a thousand times and ur blaming the LABEL lmao.

[@Freakthesorceress]

It’s not like u need labels anyway, ppl in the underground are doing sold out tours but since they’re not celebs these guys don’t know yet they’re « nerds/music lovers »

[@pohjiebarbosa]

check out Ren

[@hbrandon947]

Ren is ass bro. Hes a culture biter. ​@pohjiebarbosa

[@htvtc21]

dude, some of these LABELS are the ones that push the artists to make that same music. it's part of the contracts they sign. not every artist has as much creative control as Kendrick, J Cole etc

[@moses0686]

Yes, because the labels want that. They want tge formula, not creativity. Better more talented artists have had several.albums shelved by the label because it didn't fit the formula.

[@savages-on-deck]

Did I miss something because why are we all of a sudden acting like Drake is the quiet kid who gets bullied for no reason 🤨🤨

[@Okkotsu86275]

Me and you are thinking the same thing, maybe at one point in time Drake was that. But he is very far from that now. Drake isn't an innocent victim who people just started bullying for no reason. He does a lot of F-Boy shit.

[@IceColdFire67]

Next level podding. Gotta cover all angles, especially if Aubrey continues to spiral. Eventually, he will hit the ground, and everyone gets to hide their hands.

[@LionKingMCFC]

He's been in the most battles of every rapper right now. Right? He never ducked a battle win, lose, or draw.

[@marcricharsson]

lightskin fever

[@sheadee8027]

@@LionKingMCFChe the one starting the shit

[@JaeRocReacts]

the music industry, Celebrities & the Entertainment industry as a whole, was ruined the moment they overly intertwined with social media. it destroyed the balance, cause it allowed any & everyone to have a voice. then everyone became friendly & stopped competing 💯

[@TheSickGman09]

That's partially responsible but a large part is also streaming. It just doesn't make the money selling albums used to. So if you aren't drake or Kendrick then they don't have the money to bankroll you anymore.

[@RosiePosie007]

wtf are either one of you talking about?!

[@paveyoung6121]

@@TheSickGman09see u mention Kendrick & drake BECAUSE after them is when they stopped signing rappers based on talent. Which goes back to the commenters point, labels used social media & gang affiliation to sign acts & put MILLIONS into something that wasnt even proven to be successful. How can they generate streams from people who can’t properly construct a meaningful verse, song or album. In no professional is skill based on ig followers

[@paveyoung6121]

@@RosiePosie007 they are saying the labels wasted millions on artist based on having viral social media motions. & streams don’t make as much money as CDs. So yea the record executives screwed themselves

[@TheSickGman09]

@@paveyoung6121 brother talentless, people have sold music going back decades and decades. We probably just didn't notice it as much in the past because they would pop up with one hit song and then vanish and we would never hear from them again because they didn't have social media. It's not really a new thing. I'd also argue the vast majority of labels have never hired people because of talent They are businesses. They don't care about your talent They care about how much money you can generate.

[@paveyoung6121]

For a decade They signed people based on their social media, Literally put millions into a rapper with ONE song. When has that ever worked? lol

[@Jorda5s]

lil uzi vert? I agree but lil uzi was supposed to be a one hit wonder but is still relevant.

[@_Just_V_]

A couple times, I think lol. Not for the artist, but works wonders for the labels 🤣.

[@slim22688]

You are completely right, now we are experiencing the burnout

[@Udontlikeice]

@@Jorda5sbrah uzi been making music before xo tour life (etc)

[@SportScandals]

It’s always worked for the labels bottom line. Millions and potentially billions of dollars generated from artists likeness. Ads, merch, etc..

[@CP1779]

This victimizing Drake angle is CRAZY.... His own actions led to this result.

[@coachk37]

What actions was that?

[@mrsam0496]

​@@coachk37wanting to battle rappers' rappers for fame. Now he coming at Jay with subs and you will still ask what he did to deserve Hov's wrath

[@jt-xz6tr]

@@coachk37drake & his dweeb ass fanbase mocked kendrick everyday after push ups dropped lmaoo ak himself was on twitter EVERYDAY day with a countdown waiting on kendrick to drop, BUT when kendrick did drop u pathetic imbeciles tucked ya tail

[@abracadabruh1313]

@@mrsam0496for fame? 😂 drake is a million times more famous than Jay Z. In fact rappers are desperate to beef drake because they’ll get their biggest look in their career.

[@sandwichsquad74]

@@mrsam0496drizzy ain’t wanna battle NOBODY, drake just ain’t let dot run and hide again like he did on control. Dot started everything with “like that” if like that don’t drop there is no dot drake beef. Dot just felt like finally saying his peace that he feels he’s the best and he’s not in some big 3 with anyone. Everybody else is seemingly mad at Drake over a woman.

[@rayantenna]

It’s not just rap it’s every genre. But the labels are responsible hence music festivals are pairing country artist with rappers. That doesn’t even make sense…

[@kgema89]

For every Cardi B the music industry created by marrying music with social media stars we had 100 flops who better have a regular 9 to 5 Idk how you expected an industry reliant on hot singles rather than great albums to not run itself into the ground in this microwave, low attention span generation

[@soliderack]

Damn my mans why you had to send shots at Cardi?? I understand she has had her fair share of time on and with Love & Hip-Hop( Many artists have, Budden included), and thus that was a good portion of people's first introduction to Cardi B,thus forming their individual opinions of her based off the Character and Woman portrayed in the show.However with that being said, any antics and or "shit done/said for hype & ratings" for the show doesn't take away from her ultimate goal(s) nor does/should it discredit her rapping ability which she proved over time . Her album was good especially for such a new artist at that time and she's got some bars. Ill.end this with the fact that any fan of cardis music is well aware of her albums(Mixtapes) that came out well b4 her mainstream success with Bodak Yellow

[@MonkehSee]

The industry has bin ruined. Rappers don’t write, musicians don’t play any instruments, singers can’t belt. Just industry plants now.

[@9teenangelz]

rappers not writing is the only bad one. michael jackson barely played any instruments and paul mccartney (or any of the beatles for that matter) could barely belt mellifluously. stop this foolishness 😂

[@emf6863]

Nah! the singers can't belt!!!! Preach

[@ptyten9718]

Not true

[@jasminedtucker]

All the GOOD singers are underground. They are everywhere on Spotify with 300 monthly listeners. People ignore them because they ain't "hot". 99% of the most talented artist of all genres are underground and ignored. Yall have to go seek them out.

[@9teenangelz]

@@jasminedtucker yeah people who say things like this r just lazy. jazmine sullivan, joshua levi, jaden gray, james vickery, renee rapp, lola young, all small artists who can sang to save your life. even biggies like mariah, celine, brandy, j hud, ariana, demi, sam smith. all amazing vocalists active today.

[@drewmarcus2893]

It's a business. In most instances nobody is your friend.

[@aubrey2354]

Exactly!!!

[@Militantreturns]

You can apply to life in general

[@FreshHeat]

I gotta work 80 hours a week to keep up and still behind. Just a couple decades you could rent a place and start a band on a part time job...

[@slothenberry9691]

Y’all are saying you want fire music but keep forgetting that the money needed to really make that fire doesn’t exist. Purely from a business standpoint, the music isn’t making enough money to justify the costs of making fire. Y’all can complain about the quality of the music but the fact of the matter is there isn’t enough money coming in to justify spending what is needed to make fire. We’re all at fault for this to some degree or another. Do I want artists to make the best stuff they can make? Hell yes! Will they? Probably not because the ends don’t justify the means. If you don’t have the pockets of Joe Budden or the budgets of Drake, JayZ, and Eminem and all the other household names then you’re doing some mediocre shit most of the time because the money isn’t there to spend time locked away in a studio for weeks and weeks while you work on ideas uninterrupted. Granted that’s assuming we’re talking about actual artists and not 15 minute fame chasers and most of what’s out there now it’s just fame chasers who never wanted to be in music but are using it as a vehicle to do other stuff.

[@onyxonyx4744]

Huh?? There is plenty of great music being made underground with limited budgets.

[@mrsam0496]

Fire albums or music are the cheapest. They are usually from an artist's debut or sophomore outing before the big money. Today content is supreme to quality. That's why artists have 30albums in 10years😂 with no or minimal 'fire'. Look at Drake after Views....

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

Based on

[@datbul]

Honestly, Kendrick vs Jay would be 100x more interesting. We've heard Jay and Drake take shots at each other. It's mostly just slick talk and 'Im super rich/super successful' lines. I honestly have no idea what angle Kendrick & Jay would take with each other.

[@redbeard3807]

Its no way drake got dudes doing think pieces about drake like they really know 😂

[@TizOnly1]

being 37 and still caring about "the cool table" is some of the saddest shit I can think of.. being sad that people don't fuck with you in your late 30s is horrible.

[@ArchThaBoss]

It’s not about the cool table. That’s a metaphor. Idc how old you are, having a lot of people you considered your friends all day fuck you would hurt anybody. I dealt with it myself in the music industry. We’re all human at the end of the day

[@wc6081]

If you ain’t at cool or the cool table in hiphop then what are you doing. Hip-Hop has always been about being cool, fly, hip and in the know.

[@TizOnly1]

@@ArchThaBoss I get it's a metaphor.. but honestly having *anything* in your life at 37 that can still be analogous to "the cool table" is sad. And honestly even the way you put it in real terms... is corny. Having all the "friends" you got in the music industry turn on you.. like.. that only happens when you devote your life to worrying about "cool" over other stuff. Like solid.. like trustworthy.. like interesting.. like.. any number of other factors that matter way more in real life. But honestly the music industry is designed to be corny. It's people obsessed with "cool". It's inherently shallow so yeah.. if you're revolving your life around shit that's shallow by definition.. I guess you wind up at 37 taking solemn pics for IG quotes about your "friends" that turned their backs

[@TizOnly1]

@@wc6081 yeah.. and I think it's sad that rap hasn't grown out of this yet. Shit's lame. Rap would be way better if the whole thing wasn't about chasing the most meaningless, shallow dumb shit. Real shit.. Drake's life being so fucking sad in his late 30s may be the catalyst for hip-hop to finally grow up, bc I think a lot of people can see how sad that life is to still be chasing 22 year-olds, and having "friendships" based on who's hot in the industry

[@wc6081]

@@TizOnly1 Hip-Hop and Rap has always been grown. Just because what’s popular or what’s on the radio that’s just one part. Common and Pete Rock made a grown up album this year alone… People just want to have conversations about Drake because he’s one of the rich/wealthy ones. The young people became enamored with about gossip, characters and rumors. And it started when 50 stopped rapping and did corny ass pimpin curly. And he started talking on records instead of rapping. Nas, De La Soul, Hov all different perspectives but was always grown music. Wu-Tang, Tribe, Gangstarr, MOP. The list goes on.

[@shainissa8237]

Drake is the perfect example of why Kendrick stays quiet. Just drops music, doesn’t talk to anyone, doesn’t say who his friends are and goes into hibernation. Drake goes on stage with every artist and says they’re the greatest of all time. It’s like he’s begging to get a seat at that cool table, and that’s just one example. No one’s your friend in the industry and honestly, it’s your fault for thinking they are lol. It’s a business.

[@FrancoisDressler]

He's too Canadian.

[@The_Othy]

"How many more black features til you finally feel that you're black enough?"

[@JahmBProducts]

@@FrancoisDressler What does that mean?

[@joshuacharles4403]

So BLAME DRAKE for being GENUINE? What a Backwards world we live in lol... & Why would the biggest artist need to beg to sit at the cool table? Lol they need him more than anything, ya'll gotta stop hatin

[@herseyyoung4734]

You're well aware that Entertainers are not all Program ROBOTS. Little Kenny has no choice but to be who he is since his Charisma and Personality are that of a CHAIR. While Drake is the consummate ENTERTAINER/ UNICORN. He RAPS... SINGS also is an ACTOR, PRODUCER, Businessman who also has a Label. Has it occurred to you that some of the Artist he butters up he wants to bring in on his Lable? Plus I'm trying to figure out how you arrive at Drake acting like he is begging to sit at the cool table when he has BEEN THE COOL TABLE and on the Throne for over a DECADE, Where he also won Artist Of The Decade. No Artist in the History of Hip Hop has been able to make it the NUMBER ONE MUSIC GENRE until he came along, FACTS over Feelings & crushes it when it comes to all the Hits, where he has Cemented his Legacy in the Record books for Generations to come.

[@Justice098]

Urban music is dead because the church is dead. Where you think all that soulful music and instrumentation Came from ? Music now sounds empty

[@MoreThanJustAPrettyFace]

Yesss I agree with you

[@allgastrucking4954]

The world is soul less. Me and my homie talk about it all the time. The soul has been taken out of the music, movies, comedy, food, people.

[@JusNBL2000]

My music has soul

[@QueendomCome621]

Good point

[@QueendomCome621]

Drake used his peers and they used him...that's the nature of the business. Drake is a fool if he believed anything else. Stop making him a victim.

[@NdosiMagaye]

Where is Kid Ink?

[@williamk6605]

This seems really random.

[@cyndiva1118]

@@williamk6605he was awesome

[@robertyo6181]

Who?😂

[@williamk6605]

@@cyndiva1118 I like some of his songs for sure.

[@Rev911.]

He was nice fr fr pause no diddy

[@glopersona9828]

“Just give me the music and get out my way, ‘that part’ ‘let it be fire please’, that’s it, I missed the artist that put out some fire shit, no antics, no bullshit, they just let us get to it”. You have that artist already; his name is Kendrick Fucking Lamar!!!

[@Jair7258]

Hell no it isn’t 🤣🤣kdot waits till a black person gets shot by a cop or diss random people before a roll out

[@thedude3288]

drake made his bed and now hes lying in it, why would you feel bad for him? he has no loyal friends because hes not loyal to anyone but himself.

[@mrD66M]

I have a tiny bit of pity for Aubrey but Dennis did a horrible fucking job

[@LionKingMCFC]

Did any Artist actually say what their issue was?

[@aironenise]

@@LionKingMCFCit’s obviously personal issues that they rather keep behind closed doors.

[@LionKingMCFC]

@aironenise why does everyone assume to know what it is, When their is no quote from any of the artists as to what actually caused it. Whole battle Kendrick didn't actually say what his issue with Drake was. Ross said he didn't clear French songs, but the label clears features. No one has actually said why they fell out with him.

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

So Joe vs all his past co-hosts

[@billhoward1958]

The specialty economy is very different then the standard economy Ie trucking, plumbers craftsman or artists.

[@Okkotsu86275]

I probably will never fully understand how this pod and other people rate and value Drake's pen so highly. I need Batman to solve this mystery for me

[@kingrell116]

Maaaaaaaan until the day i find out someone else wrote his Stay Schemin, Lord Knows or Pound Cake/Paris Morton 2 verses, I respect his pen. Now i would NEVER hold him in high regard of those who we've never had to question their pen... one of the greatest artists ever! But as a MC, his shit will always have a question mark.

[@Shsbsbsjssbz]

Listen to his songs that are closest to the artist you think are great and imagine the great artist rapping the same lyrics. On paper Drake is a top tier writer. If anyone denies this they are just talking shit. People do not like his face and voice and personality. They translate that into calling him a wack rapper. It’s a wild stretch that sounds silly to Any fan of hip hop that has a broad enough perspective to compare him to everyone else.

[@kevinjohnson963]

@@Shsbsbsjssbzhe is not a top tier writer with ghost writers and reference tracks he is nowhere near a Hov tier rapper FOH!!!

[@hurdyu4146]

I believe he has a better chance with hov than k dot cause hov has more ammo against him compared to k dot and we know drake is someone that relies on dirt in his battles. Lyrically I don’t think he is holding his own but compared to k dot where he had no dirt and he had to rely on everyone else to throw shots at I think there’s more he can use against hov to make it an interesting battle

[@shynebayarea510]

Cap​@@kevinjohnson963

[@i.870]

the way these guys are talking about drake youd think hes done nothing wrong, that the only wrong he committed was "being an outsider".

[@kevinjohnson963]

Disgusting, dude is has reference track and ghost writers and they act like this doesn’t exist

[@Okkotsu86275]

​@@kevinjohnson963 Yup, they also try and justify it

[@juliustaylor9920]

Those reference tracks were never his number ones. You'll bring up his reference tracks but not his writing credits.

[@KG-tt3nl]

Well what exactly did Drake do ? No one said what Drake has done so how do we know Drake the bad guy here ?

[@harrissr.615]

@@juliustaylor9920 wrong. His biggest song is hotline bling and that was a referenced track

[@TubularTv]

I'm definitely here for Joe's perspective on this topic

[@JustAsaph]

and we never got one

[@isaiahchrome7090]

You hit my shorty while I’m locked we ain’t gon be on the best of terms either 😂

[@MeaghanTamara]

Not the main one.

[@Devere316]

Anyone! Drake still stuck on Serena and Rihanna…bro code is serious in the hood, to bad Drake don’t come from that and understand consequences and repercussion. Enjoy your life and move on Brodie

[@JohnBurgundy]

@@Devere316How is the bro code serious in the hood when ya mans tryna smash ya lady while you locked up? Shit

[@calcutlass]

Wayne didn't care

[@Devere316]

@@calcutlass Wayne been out the hood since a teenager, so he wouldn't understand either...

[@dqueezytv]

Honestly I just need to avoid mainstream in general. All the popular songs are toxic or low quality. What’s an album these days and I’m just too tired to hunt down new slaps.

[@joshlynn3185]

Michael Jackson? We saw his funeral. He was loved. BELOVED. He changed America. Michael Jackson is the King. He is at the White House. From 1964-2009. He is the industry. He is THE MUSIC STAR. Everything man did it all

[@dereomiebi977]

DRAKE is my GOAT 🐐 MJ got this treatment from the Artist that he shited on by buying their catalogue.. do your research.. When DRAKE dies Decades later .. it's going to be All love as well

[@VistaNiceGuy]

They left out that they was tryna knock Mike off. That’s why he was secluding himself. Drake beefing with his peers vs Mike tryna avoid attempts on his life aren’t the same. Maybe if Drake went the independent route and skipped the 360, maybe he’d really have something to worry about.

[@joshlynn3185]

@@VistaNiceGuy Exactly Mike NEVER EVER chased clout. AND they forgot HE IS A DANCER! Not just hit maker, his body and moves and performance ARE IN HIS DNA. Mike put the music first and devoted himself to entertainment … i impossible to imagine Mike in front of live audience playing a sad song and slur his words and feeling sorry for himself. Drake is punk. Drake is so desperate it’s cringe and pathetic. He went from being the star to a twitter bum. Drake prolly in the comment section waiting for a compliment.

[@Alexis-ln2hp]

Thank you....💯

[@altonza]

A lot of talking in tongue, circles, cryptic conversations are exhausting ✌🏾

[@cyndiva1118]

Drake is causing trouble for the podcast

[@cybomakh210]

Seems like a clean up/pick Drake up phase. Suddenly it's seems like the narrative is gon b 'Drake is the victim why hasn't anybody looked into jCole'

[@David-u9j9u]

Swear

[@JaeRocReacts]

Drake could definitely rhyme with Jay-Z. why is Jay’s lyricism so overhyped? 😂 that man used the “Mob Final Boss” imagery to hype his status & perception to the masses

[@im100percentg]

Bias. That’s why.

[@dope_itsDee]

Drake cannot rap with Hov. Stop it.

[@tammyevans8628]

Overhyped is correct especially when it’s been outed that he has took other rappers rhymes, reworded and used. So over him and his wife.

[@bryantjohnsonbey7147]

Jay is the double entendre king. Plus he made Reasonable doubt. Drake hasn’t made anything close to that.

[@mt3719]

​@@tammyevans8628 you just a hater

[@mleezy930]

A music deal is NOTHING but a loan

[@Thetruthyaheard]

Nas was talking about “Hip Hop is Dead” dropping roses and shit. And then………………”It may not meannn nothing to yaaaallllllllllllll” -- Drake saved the game. Hip Hop just doesn’t give a fuck about itself. We throw our legends away.

[@IceColdFire67]

What has he done to be considered legendary? Aside from sales, which is universally a fake accolade...

[@mrD66M]

Bro 💀 saved the game? If the game was on life support when Nas made 'Hip hop is dead" then Drake disconnected the machines from the patient, put a "do not resuscitate" notice on 'em and gassed himself up with the extra oxygen while saying he is hip hop. As if Toosie Slide and other shit is anything to do with hip hop.

[@Msboochie2]

Saved the game? He is not even hip hop, he’s a pop star.

[@LionKingMCFC]

what's the list of Artist holding up hip hop right now?

[@juliustaylor9920]

​@@IceColdFire67in social media era still close to breaking Michael Jackson records and have already broken some, but nas, jayz, BIG, and pax never broke a Michael Jackson record.

[@StrictlyG4ten]

Imagine debating about 2 artists that have made a career off stealing songs, concepts and bars 😂😂😂😂 This why the music industry is done

[@PercivalDunlop]

I can't believe how awesome this turned out!

[@williamk6605]

Bot.

[@Loveyourself1965]

Talking bout the head house ninjas....diddy situation shows how much power the blk Ninja really got

[@mont-doggBeats]

Exactly. They gone learn about giving jay z all this credit and power over people situations. Live nation aint stopping a big bag coming in because of him. And he knows to not try to mess with their cash cow too tuff or he will get the diddy treatment

[@ScipioIsBack]

Joe only person on this podcast that can speak on rap, because he was an elite lyricist. I’m not asking a Plummer to fix the transmission on my car.

[@harrissr.615]

1diot take. So you discredit all Sports analyst that never played at a high level?

[@steppababynupe]

Jake Plummer?

[@ScipioIsBack]

@@harrissr.615 Exist Skip Baylis, enter Shannon Sharps/Gilbert/Richard/Draymund etc… Shit done changed, genius!

[@jasminedtucker]

They obviously domt know more than the ACTUAL players. Someone who has the REAL life experience of something will always be more qualified. Thats common sense. Yall just like to argue ​@@harrissr.615

[@leerob7738]

Question… Someone please explain to me what is wrong with an artist having a legal side hustle? Why are people being shamed for getting a job to provide for their families? Joe it wasn’t that long ago you were doing bad in life, pride comes before destruction. You can lose it all again.

[@TheSickGman09]

Did he say something was wrong with it? I think he's just pointing out that money isn't in music as much as it used to be. If you aren't charting top 5 you just aren't making much money anymore.

[@leerob7738]

@@TheSickGman09 - It was implied ma’am…

[@TheSickGman09]

@@leerob7738 I guess I don't see that 🤷‍♂️ he doesn't exactly pull punches most of the time so if he wanted to shit on them I feel like he would've just done it

[@leerob7738]

@@TheSickGman09 - He did ish on them. You really think he meant it as there is no money in music?! It was a passive aggressive insult. There is no shame in providing for your family. Joe has forgotten where he comes from, the struggles with drugs and lack of money he once had.

[@hartfantom]

@@leerob7738your comment IMPLIES you stupid af, like what? Gman telling truth

[@big0514]

music isnt about the artist anymore, its about a quick hit sound... we know nothing about these new artists outside of blogs, they just say the same shit over a sound... back in the day the first album we got the artist intro, after they showed us growth as a person... the reason these artists are selling at all is because as fans were starved of good music

[@SmokinAcesProd]

Ish talks about people not messing with Drake as though Drake's behavior and actions may not be the reason for that

[@Swisspastel80]

JAY Z is the most overrated rapper to ever exist. Not even in my top 10

[@oneoff7660]

Totally agree

[@latashar2252]

Cap

[@nijahzoom2401]

💯💯 that 🥷lame

[@BandoBreeze]

Oh gee - he’s not in your top 10… the hip hop world is now on shambles😂

[@corytrappint.v.2841]

You crazy bruh😂

[@jordanned3075]

K dot didn’t make him look like an outsider. The masses was just blinded. Dot shined the light on 10 years of d riding

[@onyxonyx4744]

Drake received HISTORICAL hate way before this battle. The masses just had to accept the fact that he made dope songs that were undeniable lol

[@israeljudite8434]

@@onyxonyx4744not hard to do when you stealing black Americans music.

[@tctjg]

Its always lonely when you on top 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️😔😔😔😔😔

[@KingJuice215]

But Drake said trust me at da top it isn’t LONEly 🤣

[@onyxonyx4744]

@@KingJuice215 Did you GET that bar tho? It's actually insinuating that there are a LOT of snakes, opportunists and fake friends around you when you're at the top.

[@jamesmace47]

Hov and Drake got issues???? What did I miss????

[@3rd_Eye_Xplosion]

Drake posted pics on his IG story a couple days ago basically takings jabs at Hov.

[@Shsbsbsjssbz]

Drake definitely does not need to stop making music. Not until he stops selling tour tickets and his new music stops doing worthwhile numbers consistently. For all the hate Drake gets he has no equal in the industry. It’s not even close. He’s the MJ of hip hop

[@jqualls7901]

This is why niggas mad especially Kendrick stans‼️🤯🎯💯💯

[@RosiePosie007]

Exactly. I'm not even the biggest Drake fan, but I need this dude to get over it and start puttin' out some good music again on these fools. I really hope he doesn't just fall off.

[@purrfitazitgetz3365]

Dats YB brah 😂😂 yall internet MF are so funny Drake dropped 2 videos and both got 2 million views 😂😂😂 brah sometimes it’s best to listen because it ain’t nun wrong wid chilling out for awhile cause it just don’t worth it

[@purrfitazitgetz3365]

@@RosiePosie007u pro Canadian 😂😂 but he has dropped 2 songs but if you ain’t in da culture ya not gonna understand what Dey talking about 😂 da songs just hitting like dat used to and dude getting older ni he already steals sounds for other regions

[@BlackMarq20]

They’re saying for his sanity and how he’s being perceived, he needs to take a break and go chill out somewhere.

[@rcayemitte88]

Drake been needed to chill. He should have been trying to find a new artist to spice up the game years ago. Don’t even help the peeps on his label, just hoggin all the good 40 beats then wonder why people are over him.

[@im100percentg]

Lmao imagine saying this about Drake and nobody else… LITERALLY NOBODY ELSE has been in Drakes position and here you are giving advice😭

[@JaeRocReacts]

@@im100percentg fangirIs like you are a big part of the reason hes declining 😂😂😂 KEEP GOIN

[@sejoshsxi5863]

No one is over him perhaps just You

[@greekgaddafi4468]

​@@JaeRocReactsINSIGNIFICANT YOU TALKING ABOUT DRIZZY DECLINING 😂😂😂😂 YOU'RE THE GREATEST 🤡ON THIS PLANET KEEP DEPRESSED

[@JaeRocReacts]

@@greekgaddafi4468 good job! 😂🙏🏾 keep up the good work!

[@russellharvin9178]

like he said "if you put cheese in the grits? it's gone be cheese in the grits!" straight like that. salute the JBP they always all ways💯

[@namelesscartel]

I think the part ish always seems to forget about the perception of drake is that he isn’t being himself behind closed doors and in public. Ish always seems to be in his corner to make it seem like Drake has just been this amazing guy helping everyone behind the scenes for no benefit to himself at all which probably isn’t the case at all. We quite literally don’t know who Drake REALLY is. Obv we as the public could never really know the truth behind him. But Joe hit the nail on the head when he said “he can’t be himself”. My theory is that drake has never put his real foot forward when working with people outside of his immediate camp and that’s what has rubbed artist the wrong way, so it’s not just that he’s corny it’s that he tries to make it seem like he’s not corny. Sometimes you have to own who you are to be accepted by people. In drakes case he probably just rubbed a lot of people in the industry the wrong way but they couldn’t do or say anything about it because he was a cash cow at the time

[@randyzreactionreviewz]

The way y'all dick ride Drake is crazy to me because he has never been on a MCee level ,he is a nice rapper but that's it I would never pick Drake over an MCee Pusha showed us Drake don't really got it like that he plays politics when he losing... Before y'all get at me about him killing Meek ,Meek has never been him either... We need to stop giving a billboard rapper a lyricists status it don't matter how you chart when you beefing ,it's about bars.

[@ArtificialIntelligenceSound]

Kendrick just showed us. 🫣

[@inoyvst6786]

The way yall hate on him is flabbergasting. Speaks to “i hate him because i don’t think his music should be regarded in a way that it is” Like we dk shit bout this man

[@rosuzzieagnes124]

@@ArtificialIntelligenceSoundlosing to Kendrick is not a problem because Kendrick can rap

[@Cameo131]

That’s nice, but actual lyricists have acknowledged that Drake’s a top tier lyricist. Their opinion matters the most.

[@randyzreactionreviewz]

@@Cameo131 even when they deny Eminem? Cause lyricists don't suck up to bigger artists? Okay...

[@onesoldierserving]

I don't know what's changed with this pod, but I can't stop watching these clips. I think Flip has a real good way of accepting new information in real time sometimes, too. You don't see that as often. Who cares what I think, but I'm just saying.

[@WorldsLowest]

Drake tried to battle with a story teller, bad move.

[@Nightizm]

he was telling stories alright

[@ministryod]

@@Nightizmcope 😂

[@onyxonyx4744]

@@Nightizm Exactly. They BOTH lied but Kendrick just makes pro black raps so black people felt compelled to take his side. The race card disguised as 'culture' was used. And old industry grudges from 'industry dudes' (Joe Budden, Ebro etc) took place to get their licks in against Drake to make it SEEM like Kendrick did something when he actually got out rapped CLEARLY.

[@john-tr8jy]

@@onyxonyx4744 Kendrick is just the better rapper and wasn't even done with Drake. The battle was a Toronto Queer Pimp vs a Compton thug that lives and breathes rap. Only one winner coming out from that. Do many Blacks misunderstand KDot as this woke rapper? Yes, but KDot is FAR from that. Most of his music is actually critical of Black folks and himself, if you listen well.

[@lungilemake8424]

​@onyxonyx4744 Reducing one of the most nuanced discographies in rap to "pro black music" and seeing the lyrical deconstruction on Kendrick's part as "the race card" is ironically the reason the homie lost so embarrassingly, and reinforces the narrative low key😂.

[@tamikadaniels6556]

I’m so glad somebody touched on this subject because I’ve been saying this since the pandemic.

[@Lyfecycles]

A pen, pad, paper and ghostwriters😂😂😂

[@juliustaylor9920]

Peep his writing credits to 😂😂😂

[@anniceportland]

@@Lyfecycles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Anyuser1245-l3y]

@@juliustaylor9920peep everybody's credits too!

[@juliustaylor9920]

@@Anyuser1245-l3y people have been, what new has come out?

[@Anyuser1245-l3y]

@@juliustaylor9920 well you just said peep his writing credits acting like he the only one

[@FedUpSista]

Bands, playing instruments… where is the present day EWF? Kool & the Gang? LTD? Commodores? Taste of Honey? Where are the SUPER GROUPS of today?

[@MrChroniclesTV]

It’s all cuz he signed to that 360 deal. Thought he would get out in time. But they turned on him before he could get out. After this drake do NOT get back into a contract. Go do some movies with 50

[@Bcryptic278]

FACTS ‼️ and then GETS LYRICALLY BODIED by his FORMER "FRIEND" now OPP aka KDOT 😅 and he STILL LEGALLY got a MUSICAL CONTRACT to FOREFILLED for +years smh 🫣😮it's sad AF bro

[@FreshBeginning]

That’s a TOUGH move for him. If his label turned on him it’s very close to over. NGL I had my reasons for wanting him to fall but now actually seeing it, I wish he could’ve just tightened up and avoided this. It’s ugly

[@MrChroniclesTV]

@@FreshBeginning he’s built for it, he gon be alright just gotta make right moves and branch into knew things

[@FreshBeginning]

@@MrChroniclesTV True enough, he’s no idiot and he has “good genes” so he can be taken care of behind the scenes in a few different industries without being rap’s face. Everybody wins, if we can consider anyone a winner here

[@RashadMoncrief-jg6rr]

New hot music: Dom Kennedy - Class of 95

[@djkenwon]

Eh...

[@mrsilkysmoothd]

Dot said he was gonna play victim and yall falling for it 😂😂😂

[@onyxonyx4744]

Kendrick fans exist in these weird echo chambers or they are just being disingenuous. I've never seen an INDUSTRY turn on an artist like they did on Drake. You can't be serious? lol

[@israeljudite8434]

@@onyxonyx4744how they turn on the dude who signed the biggest industry deal in History? You Ovhos just trying to rewrite history

[@melanatedmalachi]

loved this conversation .

[@kevinjohnson963]

wtf is ish yapping about ….Drake has ghost writers with reference tracks……Hov don’t even write rhymes and would Destroy Aubrey with hardly any effort

[@Breakthehuddlepod]

Only a hater could believe this bro

[@arjunksharma23]

Don't act like you didn't just watch Drake compose monster record after monster record on 100 gigs. Ghostwriting/reference tracks is a lazy take.

[@kevinjohnson963]

@@arjunksharma23 no I didn’t watch any of that BS damage control ….I can tell the real from the fake 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@arjunksharma23]

@@kevinjohnson963 takes a fake to know a fake

[@kevinjohnson963]

@@arjunksharma23 not at all …real recognizes real and he doesn’t look familiar…..thats why we hate the way the way he says the word NI$$A 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️😂😂😂😂

[@sidsplice]

10:40 sound like a typical break room at a regular job 😂.

[@arokowski]

NAS called it back in 06'

[@hovadeuce6571]

And what did he call?

[@xxreyoxx]

​@@hovadeuce6571 that HIP HOP IS DEAD mf

[@shootthejay7002]

He said hip hop is dead

[@zairethinker]

@@hovadeuce6571 your name says it all lol

[@JusNBL2000]

I’m keeping it alive

[@sea2475]

I’ve been saying for the past 4 years the rap industry is OVER. Everything got watered down & over saturated. Labels signed the same 1 hit wonder back to back to back smh

[@SabrumBaker]

He can’t rap with Kendrick Pusha T and essentially any of the killers what would make anyone think he had any chance against Jay Z in a battle?

[@zairethinker]

Jay z pen has been rusty for years now

[@shynebayarea510]

Jay been washed since kingdom come

[@SabrumBaker]

@@shynebayarea510 huh? Thats just a lie

[@SabrumBaker]

@@zairethinker nah. rusty how?

[@shynebayarea510]

No it's not, been putting out trash ever since then @SabrumBaker

[@ChrisJohnson59AZ]

To me, the issue with the music industry, is it started to have nothing to do with talent. You could have a hit record with just the right producer and the right backing/money behind you, and how the label wanted to push you, and get you plenty of radio air time. You also have to do certain things(xxx) to get access to the label wanting to make you a star, as we are seeing with the like of P Diddy. All the truly talented people told Diddy “NO”…

[@ericabraham3609]

How can yall feel bad for Drake and what he may be going through but diss Cole for Port Antonio track? Cole prolly feel bad for Drake too lol. He just put it in lyrical format.

[@mercenaryentertainment1384]

has anyone ever really looked into why ppl feel a way about Drake. Its all been about Drake being hated or ghosted. Crazy to me.

[@jimboshrump]

Hes been playing the same roll for 15 years. Maybe he should try to be an actor in hollywood OH WAIT... 😂NVM

[@shynebayarea510]

And his fans like it obviously..supply and demand. That's why he the highest touring rapper ever

[@onyxonyx4744]

What the role? Dominating the rap landscape? lol

[@consiglieremusick9079]

Can yall link the other host socials in the description like Joe's is?

[@cpbballbeast]

This the biggest cap i ever heard in my life all these people in the media make all the excuses for "why its bad" yet nobody in the country music space, the pop music space, the music thats actually selling right now. None of those people, or labels, and spaces are in a panic or downsizing. Its all an excuse to mask why hip hop is in the state that its in today.

[@Freakthesorceress]

Right u got Indy artists like joegmafia doing global tours lol wtf they listening to

[@cpbballbeast]

@@Freakthesorceress its all a mask to cover the bad decisions and the music that isnt selling from the majors

[@johnanthonymercado6763]

these guys are super naive if they think people with power dont make calls for others to not do business with them if they dont like the person who ever it is..

[@questlazy122]

Budden got me feeling like this is a Christmas episode with that sweater.

[@Danejahruss]

Music Will Never Die. Not While There Is A Jamaican Rapper Singer Out Here That Y’all Ignoring Because He Not Signed

[@jrlearns]

Jay play the game the right way everyone saying he the next diddy 😂😂😂

[@onyxonyx4744]

''Ball so hard muhfuggas trying to find me''. They can't take that he played the game at the highest level with NO ASTERISKS on his name! The LITERAL G.O.A.T.

[@JcryptoWalker-g5j]

Jay z didn’t have a problem with putting a picture of Prodigy!!!

[@TheReelRapNerd]

I agree with Joe on Drake being bad with cerebral emcees. In both bouts he had with Push/Kendrick, his technical raps are on par with them, but it's the next level of thought that ultimately leaves Drake in the dust.

[@onyxonyx4744]

His battle raps are BETTER than them. What you mean is, Pusha and Kendrick use 'shock value' content to disguise the fact that they CAN'T keep up with Drake lyrically and only people who Rap and don't have a weird vendetta against him can see this. If Kendrick doesn't make a hit record he loses this EASILY perception wise even with all of the Drake hate.

[@TheReelRapNerd]

@onyxonyx4744 I disagree. A battle rap is more than just being able to rap good. It's also about angles you take alongside rapping good. Calicoe vs Loaded Lux is the best example.

[@melvynbyron620]

sorry Ish, we don't know what he can do with a pen and paper, we've never seen it. ha ha damn we haven't seen him without the blackberry with already written verses, tell him drop that and use the pen, 100 gigs but no footage of him actually writing.

[@KreweOfBridge]

Music festivals and award shows will no longer have trained artists to showcase. The quality is not there.

[@cinematictrailerstudios]

The industry been over with for a while! Back in the 90s n early 2000s you would listen to a banger for weeks, Now we just skip through 100 songs! I actually cant see the music industry ever EVER recovering! Being an artist is not a vibe in 2024 lol

[@AprilFoster-z6z]

Endorsements and appearances used to be retirement. You got actors and artist starting local businesses and regular jobs. At least they honest...the others are in denial the party over and in love with fame...but when that residual don't come in no more...its expensive...

[@onyxonyx4744]

Yep

[@trakzherer]

Budden a lost soul in a land of lost souls reporting on lost souls from podcast land. Imagine holding an L to a Drake Ghost writer and STILL BEING MAD about it. LET IT GO, stop Pump pump Pumping it up.

[@Bee-yz6dq]

IT'S SO CRAZY HOW THESE MEN SITTING HERE SAYING HOW BAD THEY FEEL ABOUT DRAKE, WHEN, NICKI ENDURED WAY WORSE!!! THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY TURNED ON HER, INCLUDING JOE BUDDEN!! IT LITERALLY SEEMED AS THOUGH THE ENTIRE WORLD WAS AGAINST & YET THEY'RE SYMPATHETIC FOR, DRAKE.. HIS EXPERIENCE IS NO WHERE NEAR, WHAT, NICKI WENT THROUGH. HE'LL BE ALRIGHT.

[@onyxonyx4744]

Nicki just comes off like a despicable human being lol. And it's obvious to everyone but her weird fan base also filled with bitter, mean-spirited despicable human beings. It's hard to feel sorry for someone like that.

[@kevaughnramsay9846]

Shut up barb

[@reddot4419]

It's too easy to become famous via social media

[@ethanhuntemcee1663]

No it’s not that’s what they want u to think …anything going viral is not an accident…All scripted

[@reddot4419]

@@ethanhuntemcee1663 so who's the mastermind behind Shamar getting fame? 🧐

[@ethanhuntemcee1663]

@@reddot4419 🤣😂🤣funny I don’t know who that is?

[@reddot4419]

@@ethanhuntemcee1663 the hawk tuah chick if you need a current reference

[@ethanhuntemcee1663]

@@reddot4419 Oh okay!

[@thedissilent2548]

Drake been on a streak of sneak dissing and even directly taking shots at people for years. But he’s especially been on a sneak diss marathon for his past two albums, Her Loss and For All The Dogs. Drake is far from innocent, what you feeling sorry for him for? It honestly makes wonder if these people even listen to lyrics.

[@arjunksharma23]

That's the Hov/B.I.G. playbook I don't know why everyone thinks this is new.

[@onyxonyx4744]

Drake has been hated on since he came in the game. Of course he's sneak dissing dudes lol. I would bet MONEY that he rarely has 'started' anything. Dudes are jealous that the dork got somewhat cool and got poppin' and ran the game.

[@DFossss]

Unpopular Opinion: Jay-Z is mad overrated.. Only East Coast niggas put him on this high ass pedestal

[@JusNBL2000]

Jay z is that good when u really listen to his discography I thought the same thing at one time until I gave him a listen

[@Okkotsu86275]

@@DFossss I love Hov, but I agree. Outside of NYC, folks have more respect and reverence for Nas.

[@ILLWill1027]

As a Chicago nigga growing from the early 00’s til now at the age of 35 I’ll be 36 in two weeks we ALWAYS rocked wit Jay heavy. He’s in my top 5. We don’t hold bias to regions and shit here so if we fuck wit u then we fuck wit u. I do hear though a lot of real southerners don’t listen to him much cuz they’re use to a certain sound in the south that he just doesn’t sound like.

[@steppababynupe]

00s Jay was good. I'm from the south.

[@AbrahamOkon-n8h]

​@@Okkotsu86275How does having more respect for Nas make Jay-Z overrated...Nas is easily the GOAT so why should anyone below him be considered overrated

[@jamarkellum1370]

Joes on the ropes, searcher finder, engagement .......agreeance. Let's resume n see how Goose has overcome...........

[@kuldoxy5637]

I disagree with the other guy @4:30 Drake doesnt have the best rap song in this Kendrick/Drake rap battle. Just becos Kendrick had a better angle doesnt mean he didnt have fire rap songs! If Kendrick's rap wasnt good enough, I dont care the kind of strategy he used or timing, It wouldnt have had the kind of effect it had.

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

Of course he doesn't, but that's all subjective. And the dude who said that is Emani ( or however he spells it ).

[@MartelHardy]

I do agree. You probably don't care 😂

[@MartelHardy]

If they feel that way about Hov let's not forget Nas.

[@najeeconley7557]

parks got the best take its new school vs old school

[@AllFactsNoOpinion]

It's Called Stay Neutral And Mind Your Business 👈🏼💯💯

[@MrJbattle17]

They want Kendrick Lamar but can’t fix themselves to say it 🥲

[@john-tr8jy]

Kendrick is the best thing to happen to HipHop. These rappers know he makes them look like clowns which they are. Making music to make Black men look like clowns. That ignorant hood thug era is gone.

[@kevaughnramsay9846]

Nobody wants kenny stop lying

[@CharlesKennedy-v2b]

​@@kevaughnramsay9846yes they do

[@israeljudite8434]

They hate dot. They scared to say it out loud

[@dallasgriffin9361]

What ammo could Drake use against jay

[@mrsilkysmoothd]

Drake can’t rap with hov

[@onyxonyx4744]

Yes he can lol. He already OUT rapped him on Poundcake. HOV is the GOAT but let's not act like Drake isn't an all time great as well.

[@emmanuelnambouh1380]

I love how everyone just went in on that bar

[@rkennedy1095]

We've never seen or heard of Drake going in the booth without ghostwriting.

[@MrMDMPOfficial]

Completely false.

[@jay3414]

I'm trying to figure out what Ish talking about 😂😂😂😂

[@pauloliver8976]

So you just gonna ignore what Jack Harlow just recently said?

[@rahkemmcnulty7147]

@@pauloliver8976what he say?

[@justingranberry2845]

My brother Gattie Tha King went indie after Def Jam shelved him, and he's streamed more than he's ever had touring overseas.

[@summaryjudgment]

lmao, Drake thought going to the gym would make men respect him. Bruh, just sit in your house and be rich. We don't need to see or hear you.

[@EddieMorrison-r7t]

It's the fact that people just realize the industry is dead. Shidd, it's been dead since the middle of 09. With nobody buying music and ever artist is releasing multiple albums a year. Quality music is not the same nomore.