Chance The Rapper Explains If He’s Really An Independent Artist | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@kaysha]

Independence is owning your masters and publishing. Having then a placement from Apple or Spotify is a business practice. Doesn't make you less independent. Chance is right

[@Kidd0Wycked]

Joe just on some BS. Independent has a different context in the music business. And he knows that. Chance isn't fooling ppl. You gotta have a team of ppl to help you get stuff out. And you gotta make business moves that work in your favor. You can't do this stuff by yourself. But that does mean you have to relinquish ownership to do so? I honestly don't get why Joe is being a nitpick. But Chance is absolutely a dude I would to have a conversation with. Dude ask mad questions, and doesn't shy away from explanations. Respect to him for that.

[@calvinking1663]

Sounds like good business to me.

[@thomashester2]

Kaysha that part.

[@dajion13]

I think the point is that chance had certain advantages that all artists aren't able to benefit from.

[@BrothaWithACamera]

@Drowzy Meta Basically this, dude comes from a rich politically involved family. Its easy for him to say hes independent when he was practically born into a machine already. Just like Kylie Jenner or Kendall...one of them bitches that said they were self made. Its nonsense and almost an insult to compare that to a regular artist that really grew up in the struggle with no resources. Not that its impossible but he speaks so candidly like its so easy to accomplish what he has..

[@friendswitdadealer]

Joe got cooked. Went from yelling and fake walkin out to "it don't matter if he independent or not".

[@karlsylvain]

haha exactly!!! chance shut him down

[@Blanket5656]

He can’t believe young niggas don’t have to suck dick for a record deal

[@IanRoss]

I've never seen Budden look so weak AND bitter in his entire career, more than this interview. Chances definition of independent is the EXACT same definition that everybody who wants to be independent is wanting to be. Just because you're independent, doesn't mean you can't do basic business. This man is outside his mind. The single most important thing about being independent is OWNING and CONTROLLING your own masters...that's where ALL of the money is made. Everything else is trickled down to the people who work for you after that. Unlike most artists, where the LABEL owns the master and trickles the money down to the artist...that shit is over with. Joe, stop.

[@IanRoss]

I don't want to go back and edit...hopefully you can follow everything I said. lol

[@YoungBlaze]

@@IanRoss na.... repost that shit the right way, you owe us bro

[@alexklaskaris]

I thought weak and bitter was the Joe Budden brand ...?

[@IanRoss]

@@alexklaskaris You're so right on that...don't know how I ignored it for so long lol.

[@MegaLakeStar]

Joe is definately not bitter at all lmao, Joe got a whole new image and lane he EATING off of. Joe was just doing regualr Joe shit and being loud and stubborn.

[@ReconArmorial]

Joe is really good at making himself look like a detached lunatic.

[@dtowntexg]

🤣🤣

[@IAmWizdom1000]

TheNotoriousL.I.L. Chance was keeping things simple he figured most ppl could fill in the blanks like Rory did. Joe wanted the ALL the details which is fair because you could have deals like T.I. Does with dime trap where he still leans on labels for press runs and radio play. (This is also ok if you dont mind partnering with a label and not signing to one) EOD when it comes to music business Joe is like the family dog that has a hard time accepting new guest.

[@indydev1609]

Da "medic" jumped on Chance's dick wen shit got real......."We da throne!!!"...........FOH!!!

[@wedothisforeveryone158]

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[@genesispenn8423]

OnGod Joe be playing crazy

[@javonwilliams2746]

I know what Joe means about independence and standing completely alone but that’s not realistic. Independence is owing everything that’s you. Levering yourself in deals and partnerships to spread your music and get paid is a power move as an Independent

[@VerseOnez]

Not necessarily, cuz those moves mean you sell the rights to your shit when you make those moves so naming it a "power move" is subjective. Its hit or miss. So selling your shit doesn't usually end up going good as a power move. Joe just tells people what hes been thru and his experience thru fucked up deals, and this is him spreading his wisdom, but it's not necessarily the same situation that he went thru so he doesn't understand how people can actually be successful while getting fucked in the process. It's losses and gains brotha.

[@themanplan987]

I think when people think independent it's doing it alone. Independent woman is doing it alone without needing a man. So apple buying his album and giving him money, He's not independently selling to his audience. But I'm sure whatever he sold his album for her probably could have done those numbers I'm assuming. But wont know till his next album. I think he said he sold to apple for like 500k, which is like 50k albums obviously before costs taken out. I'm sure chance can do 50k or more so I don't think he is dependent on apple. But is using/used them

[@CloudWalker__]

You’re absolutely right. Just because you make moves and business with other companies, doesn’t make you a dependent artist.

[@LowercaseKev]

Well the thing Joe is saying is when you give a company exclusives to your music, you no longer are independent as far as being able to put your music everywhere for profit. It's a handcuff of what your album can sell for the limit of the exclusive deal you setup. It's basically a 2 week short term deal you made. Now if you just do your own marketing and upload your music thru the various distribution softwares solely you don't get the short term money of $500,000. So in that way Chance wasn't independent on coloring book because of him doing an exclusive deal. Sure it helped for numbers on the one streaming service but it hurt his numbers overall as a result, and handcuffed him to the one steamer for those 2 weeks. So yes Chance owns all his own shit(minus paying the royalties to the producers, engineers, etc) but Chance taking the $500K deal was him selling rights to stream his album only on one distribution app. So it's not fully independent because Spotify or Apple helps boost the numbers by exposing the album even more than he would have been able to son his own. Much like a label signed artist has done for them. It's not a bad thing though

[@LowercaseKev]

@Erica Deramushe did sell his rights, his streaming distribution rights....to one service for 2 weeks. So not only do they broadcast his album more, they got him free Superbowl ads on them. It's not a bad thing but he did sign a deal for two weeks so it wasn't independent based on Chance's own definition of Independent Artist

[@DaKidGowie]

Moral of the story, Chance IS independent.

[@TreWillz]

I don't completely understand why Jo was trying to tell Chance that he wasn't independent. But i guess he was saying that Chance is not independent because of the help he receives. But the thing is he isn't really receiving help. He calls up whoever and makes an offer for a mutual gain. That's how business works. He has to get his music on their platform somehow.

[@eduardoprospero5905]

No he's not.

[@mirac2062]

Chance is making his decisions, and making ropes that labels would do for their artists, I think, and trying to get more exposure isn't saying that they aren't independent, but doing their own stuff by themselves, is independent, cause they still are in control of their music.

[@FirstNameLastName-pg3pi]

@@eduardoprospero5905 he literally is

[@MMail1984]

Tech n9ne is truly independent. Chance is an industry dude who just so happens to own his masters. There's a BIIIIIG difference

[@biglmixedwithjid17]

shout to chance for handling joe so well, not everyone is able

[@lamayiashaffer7080]

Any man that can hold his composure is so attractive!!!! I LOVE CHANCE

[@Boundless-Boredom]

joe cant even explain his own argument

[@nativenative1937]

Chance explained way tooo much! Joe has to be smarter then this. Anybody can get onto Apple playlist it’s all about money and connections

[@andreww5574]

Native Native Would it have been as entertaining if he didn’t press him on it tho?

[@jamesonjunky]

Then no anybody can't call Apple. Everybody doesn't have those connections.

[@nativenative1937]

Marquis Blue well then get some tick nigga lol

[@chayannetweh6259]

I'm glad Joe did what he did. I'm glad chance explained way too much. We are all better off from the information we just received.

[@peaceblessking4014]

unfortunately he made himself seem like he's not; initially he intends to come across grossly as a dick head.

[@MrDeuce006]

LMAO Joe Budden thinks being independent means being a broke boi

[@z00pac]

Owning your masters and publishing is the definition of independence. Does he expect chance to start his own streaming service too?? Tf

[@Wxve6]

hahaha Chance Music

[@Fancichick765]

Joe gotta chill Chance is independent

[@Omegavision87]

But he admitted at the end he believes he is.

[@MrMoraltv]

No he is not u try and call apple and say u got new music

[@pharaoh6625]

he just explained why he's able to call Apple, u got to have some kind of buzz around your name

[@jayinthebx]

Hes not independent any rapper that got buzz cant be on apple front page without a label period.

[@pharaoh6625]

typical nigga shit lol the man just literally explained that he owns his masters and publishing and broke down his deal but yall gonna believe what you want to anyway smh

[@SabrumBaker]

Well after hearing the explanation, I can now say “Yea chance is independent” plain and simple 🙇🏾‍♂️. No misleading, No Nothing. I just see someone using all material out there to get what he needed to get done, completed.

[@jjreach7944]

College Knight yeah you don’t get it

[@jacobkreifels8116]

Ya im a music business major and have had a record deal as well. Chance is independent. Building a team that you personally choose while controlling your own masters is the definition of a high functioning independent artist. MAJOR props to Chance

[@Wxve6]

yeah and Russ too , both legends congrats btw

[@SlayinRecordsOnline]

This makes me wanna listen to Chance The Rapper, crazy how liking an artist personality can make you want to listen to their music more. Even crazier I see a lot of people still believe he's not independent. He has an in-house team to fulfill the day to day task of a major label. The difference is Chance still creative/smart enough to exploit his own music. Real industry people know what Chance talkin about its just viewed different because he has a high level of fame being an artist (Organically) plus bruh music is really different then what alot of people emulating esppecally message wise. bruh had all the juice and still made sure he's crew ate, even if it jerpodsied his money. thats loyality/integrety thats a different element along with not being on no rachet sht i would imaging u wouldnt have as hard of a time talking to a business representative/owner about partnering for a project. especially if you bringing value. I'm striving to have the same type of independent success. #SlayerStamp

[@THECA]

lol

[@eduardoprospero5905]

He's not independent.

[@teamsisters3861]

One of the best episodes to date!!!

[@thelovergirljasmine]

I respect Chance so much for enlightening us upcoming artists. We gotta be confident in our craft, all we need is ourselves and a supportive & positive team. 🙌🏽🖤

[@Sagrecio]

The way Chance handled Joe was underated

[@AjaniAvery]

I have to give it to Chance, he really kept his calm and took his the time and his time to explain

[@mynameisoptional]

After this interview, Joe called up Spotify to get his podcast ads all over Times Square. Smh lol

[@AyHayTV]

Joe made absolutely ZERO sense, lmao, wtf.

[@Daniel-from-Texas]

Bravo to Chance for educating the audience and staying calm. Super intelligent guy. You can do your own thing! It will be harder at first, but if you play the long game, it will work out.

[@kidfazer]

Acid Rap is a classic.

[@samb6244]

Relax

[@kidfazer]

sam Brown cool calm and collected my brother.

[@cazzanchristian9715]

It is

[@everettlewis464]

Facts

[@wince9537]

kidfazer most important comment on this video

[@loyalfans-kxngunkasaxxx2223]

Joe he's independent bro lol... He explained it, he's not signed to a major or anyone at that... So ask people to help you doesn't suddenly make you not independent.. No contract = independent.

[@selfishstockton6123]

One Kxng he doesn’t have a contract but he DOES have an album deal with a major distributor. Not fully independent so...

[@jeffo466]

He distributes his own albums, did you not watch the interview?

[@bettercallsaul8065]

Selfish Stockton stupid ass nigga

[@haltuaketti420]

Selfish Stockton no apple isint a label... watch the godam video

[@kingaustin6985]

@@selfishstockton6123 chance is definitely fully independent

[@elsapea997]

This grew my respect for Chance so much. Wise man.

[@IanRoss]

Budden: Right "on time" huh, muhahaha (I got him now!) Chance: Wrong, not "on time," because if it was, I would have got 20mil, but instead I got 500K. Budden, you need to help yourself and stop assuming things because when you ASSume, you make an ASS out of U, and not Chance...

[@otffolks6726]

Ian Ross damn

[@nikkomiles]

Watching this again in 2021, there’s so much positive transparency happening in this conversation, it’s inspiring!! I love the departure from what could have been generational division, to just be real… more of this needed

[@Wxve6]

I agree. Russ talks about it even more and is equally independent. It's very simple at the end of the day, if you sign a Major Label deal, you're not independent (except if you specifically modify the contract which almost never happens but Russ did with columbia. Just talk to a lawyer or me even, I can explain it to you. Artists just get trapped

[@enz4567]

All I heard was Chance explain how he independently took the time to do his due diligence and RESEARCH streaming technology and how to protect you IP. I don’t know what single artist out who is giving out actual helpful game besides Chance.

[@euanstirling1866]

Meanwhile dipshits challenge everything

[@Wxve6]

Russ is

[@danieltaylor211]

Who is Russ?

[@godswiph]

Chance really cared to get this point across. He made sure to steer the conversation and articulate everything clearly because he umderstands the vulnerability of artists out there. Bravo!

[@MegaDemetrius]

LUPE FIASCO GOT BANNED WHEN HE SPOKE AGAINST 360 DEALS !!!!

[@kenyafromcali]

Joe can’t stand not to be in control. Can Chance please finish a full point??!! Come on son. Relax!

[@andreww5574]

Kenya Simena this segment’s not reflective of the whole podcast... you know how Joe is when he gets in his passionate bag

[@brash2394]

You must be new

[@rhythmicallydifficult5693]

Ganga burn ganga burn. Ganga burn .....

[@Sheepskin501]

Seriously joe can't ever accept being wrong

[@rillyjo5810]

Not as bad a nore

[@willieko]

This is a masterclass in having assertiveness and emotional intelligence during a conflict

[@nojankamoosi2935]

Joe just loves getting angry and having a unique contrarian opinion that'll get hits. But he has zero ability to back up his views

[@u_mrmcmisdemeanor]

Chance is an inspiration to all artists out there. Much respect

[@docterhill8458]

I love how chance is so chill

[@whitneyg4945]

Shout out to Chance for being so candid

[@VaporGawd]

I’m glad this has been resolved! Joe and Chance are both preaching the same thing and having them agreeing on this debate was just a great thing for the culture! 🙌🏿🙏🏿

[@Beeeezyyy]

If he’s not signed to a major label . He’s independent. Dude is stacking hella dough

[@karlsylvain]

whoa joe yelled at rory for sticking with chance! wtf joe. not cool

[@LongshotLennox]

It must be frustrating arguing with Joe. Real shit lmao shout outs to Chance's patience though.

[@YoungBlaze]

They wanna talk about independent bring Tech n9ne on here

[@stinwav222]

YoungBlaze they could get a lot of people but tech doesn’t have the mainstream success chance does

[@andresp5402]

JBcoolbreez that’s it??? Dam

[@delmeauxknows5856]

I downloaded 'Surf' on Apple Music BEFORE Apple Music (back when I had my last iPhone, I was using Beats music Streaming, before Apple Bought them). But I remember doubting the true independence of Chance. I appreciate the clarification.

[@vodavoom]

This nigga is given Gems

[@AJ-uh2ik]

I'll tell you why I liked this interview so much .....Joe almost intimidated Chance with his manner and disposition on the independent status and Chance didn't back down in his belief and his stance because, he understood the situation and he didn't get loud or anything. Using apple was merely a platform to get his shit out there but his masters and publishing is still his own what I liked though is that Joe eventually took it on board (despite the theatrics fuckin hell lol) so it was a kinda learning moment. I'm gonna check this kid's shit out haven't been feeling these whippersnappers new shit they don't make much sense but this guy seems different...this shit wasn't coached .....but for the record .....F*** Kanye .....jus sayin

[@Wxve6]

the theatrics r so extra lmao

[@danielruapuna5565]

chance the rapper you somthing special man

[@redpillstepdad]

one of the most informative podcast segments I've ever seen. great job

[@SincerelyFlow]

Is it just me, or their audio be going in & out sometimes?? Can yahll pay attention to yahll Audio Joe? Please & thank you.

[@Crypto_nino]

Thats on purpose....copyright ish

[@SincerelyFlow]

Tim Brown thank you! That does it explain!

[@SaharaKnows]

Joe makes no sense. By his logic, this podcast isn’t independent (which it isn’t) because of the partnership with Spotify. He preaches one thing and does another. Too much hypocrisy.

[@thomashester2]

Dee facts. I define this as independent just like Death Row and Roc A Fella were independent. They all were partners and kept their masters not Interscope or Def Jam

[@talkaintcheapwmillieaun8968]

Chance is a fuckin beast in the business 💯

[@1toast]

You know...it is possible to be Black AND Republican 😂😭 still dead from that.

[@stevie3424]

It's true tho...

[@deadeyedblack2350]

Why is that funny?

[@Somethindrkside]

@@deadeyedblack2350 it's funny because it's an obvious statement. People's problem with Kanye at that time was his comments about slavery, not the fact that he might be a Republican, nobody cares.

[@barrymafokwana1456]

TOAST Thoughts Of A Stoner Tube l’f

[@AlexandriaJ_Hughes]

Chance was saying it like we didn't already know.

[@jakiee]

I think this interview was a learning experience for Joe and Chance. Joe understands the definition of independence much better now. I think a lot of us questioned Chance’s independence for a hot minute. Chance also regained my respect for actually coming and addressing the issue instead of making comments on other platforms. Awesome interview

[@Wxve6]

yeah it was. how come you didnt respect chance before im just curious

[@shanetee09]

why they making it complicated? independent is not having a contract deal. If a record deal, publishing, marketing, management, or distribution deal, then you're not independent! In this day and age it is unrealistic to be a global artist and be completely independent. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with signing the right deals which will help further your career.

[@kldbeats8851]

he just dropped hella gems. bless up

[@catejedar]

I don't know if Joe just like to play stupid sometimes just to keep the conversation spicy

[@aliesfahani9591]

Joe Budden been in the game for over a decade and doesn't understand the difference between independence and a business partnership. When 2 companies partner up they're respectively independent in their business practices. No wonder he gotta make podcasts to eat now. Stupid business.

[@youngmo77]

I think Joe's experience, put him in a position where, he understands independent as : Absolutely not being in business with any of the big or medium size Boyz ( Music Streaming giants, Sony, Universal etc). Litteraly like the Texas rappers. All off the muscle, trunck CDs sold directly to the customer.

[@rookie713]

"Wouldn't it be crazy if I had Takeoff and the Migos waiting for him?" 💀😂

[@fr33think3rs7]

salute to joe. the culture needs this platform!

[@antwaunharris7830]

Master P was the first to do whay your doing chance. He owned all his masters and publishing.

[@lj8647]

Antwaun Harris he in fact did sign himself. But he did have a distribution deal. Chance isn’t the first to own his masters and pub. He didn’t say that. He’s the first to be successful while doing everything himself. Pub, Distribution, Recording. All while having his music out for Free

[@shaqtalksstocks]

L J how is he distributing threw a major company like tune core, while still owning “ALL” of his percentage?

[@lj8647]

ShaqTalksStocks tunecore isn’t a major. There are 3 majors. Warner, Sony, and Universal. Neither of them house Tune Core. Tunecore is A distribution service that simply takes upfront money in exchange for being a direct link between the artist and the Streaming services and stores. This doesn’t intervene, nor does it affect your master. On top of that, Artists don’t contract to Tune Core. I can easily remove my album from TuneCore to distro kid without any Issue.

[@lj8647]

ShaqTalksStocks percentage doesn’t equal master either. Even if Tune core took even 1% (which they don’t), that doesn’t give them any ownership over the master recording.. it’s simply a distribution cut. Artists usually split parts of a record (percentages) with a producer. That doesn’t give the producer ownership to the master recording.

[@VEJJIETALES]

"You have a twin brother stop it" lmbooooo

[@fire8373]

Chance is chill, but commands respect. Dope guy.

[@vodavoom]

Joe humble yourself and listen to learn, this Young nigga is smart af

[@dremel1982]

Facts. Caught son jumping out the Uber #3k

[@DFRNTVIEWSTV]

Chance is independent but all joe was tryna say is chance has crazy resources to get into situations the average independent artist cannot and that’s true they both right in my book

[@9G0D]

But most independent artists dont have projects as good as 10day and acid rap at the age of 21. And the ones that do, they signed deals straight away because they see a 2million dollar check. When u have the talent and the fan base the resources will come.. asap rocky, joey badass, tyler the creator etc could have all been in the same position as him with the resources and independence but they signed a deal coz they saw the money. Chance just held out for a little longer and the $ came in the long run

[@9G0D]

Its not just about being independent.. Its about being talented and making the right music. A lot of artists were independent with good resources but they all signed deals as soon as they could. Mac miller, action bronson, asap rocky, tyler, wiz khalifa, vic mensa just to name a few were all poppin while independent. The label money was just important to them

[@danieltaylor211]

It's crazy I remember all those cats In the independent era 2007-2015 most of them signed deals. Currensy, Dom Kennedy, casie veggies, Rockie Fresh, and even Chief Keef was a part of that era as well and many more. That era was crazy, creative control supported a lot of those guys

[@SkyeDaMan]

@Joe Budden, it’s public info that Apple Music uses Music curators in each country to pick spotlighted stuff. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@FillyNouch]

In other words, independence in music industry (as Joe says AND HOW IT IS IN THIS INDUSTRY) is to own every parts of your business; mastering, publishing and distribution. But nowadays, there's no more real opportunities or even reasons to be independent (owning distribution) since physical copies are dead. Like Chance said (and Joe agreed to), not owning distribution doesn't make you not independent, it's selling your rights to your mastering and especially publishing that will make that. Great discussion, I personally want more of this stuff.

[@Wxve6]

exactly. well technically 'distribution' is basically clicking your mouse

[@christophert8419]

Joe is confusing the concept of leverage with independence.

[@the_yungchubbz]

Chance is a serious ass nigga. The way he handled himself in this interview was super dope!

[@JuanOlfe]

Damn Budden, the jealousy/bitterness is dripping.

[@jobolds6146]

I really fuck with chance now that he explained the independence shit he seems like a knowledgeable person and I learned a lesson from the interview

[@deazy6453]

There should be a union around recording artist, possibly. They get treated wrong, man

[@GrownUpKid94]

Darryl Jones Jr. Producers too.

[@VivoEnChicago]

Chance a real one. Looked joe in the face and waited for him to stop laughing and trying to brush shit off and do his regular joe shit... them dropped straight factssssssss.

[@einsteinadonis4544]

I love Chance's music, but big labels these days understand the public wants grassroots artists so they take great care to put in development deals to grow and develop industry plants... Now artists get signed years before the deal goes public.

[@DonYeezy-jt1wo]

Forming a Union in music is scary risky cause people are always waiting on the "next hot artist" and thats every artist nightmare is being replaced and disposed of unemotionally, for the music industry its a waiting game, BUT are the people willing to wait

[@vodavoom]

Joe he is a Partner with Apple wtf don't you get

[@demetriusshaffer1784]

Chance did a good job educating joe

[@sludgesurfa]

The algorithms don't allow for grassroots movements to succeed anymore, you need major label support to break through, plain and simple. You'll never find a truly independent artist, meaning free of any internal industry support, featured on the front page of any website or streaming service.

[@chavezwright4744]

Sludge Surfa nigga what? This isnt 2005 my guy. We have the internet. Lil Pump was big af already before he decided to sign, so was Xxxtentacion, so was Asap Rocky. The internet can blow you tf up and if you educate yourself on how the music business runs you can do it all yourself. Its just most niggas want that immediate bag upfront

[@Crypto_nino]

You need a major label to break through software??? 🤔🤔🤔

[@sludgesurfa]

The artists you mentioned built connections with industry figures before they got a real push, you don't have to sign a traditional deal, did you not listen to what Chance said? Where do you think all of these Instagram memes come from on the search page for random artists that had no following before they popped up, explain how dudes like Icy Narco and Kid Buu happen without shadow label support? Open your eyes, it's called a plant. Nothing wrong with it, but unless you have direct lane to leverage your way into the industry you won't even be heard beyond your local base. Find me someone who broke through mainstream within the past 2 years without a deal under the table, not happening.

[@chromeheart2526]

Sludge Surfa Chance.

[@peterparks9435]

Chavez Wright that’s actually not correct. Lil Pump and Xxx was signed before, they had any real breakthrough.

[@davida6797]

Thank you Joe and chance, a ton of info here.

[@e3dadrummastudent861]

Yo why do y’all go on this kat podcast... he ain’t done nothin but try to bring chance down the whole interview... never mind that he did his thang his way and got a Grammy... Joe Biden ain’t got no Grammy... straight insulting what chance has done... But runnin from Em tho...

[@lancebryant9206]

He's testing what Chance truly values in Hip-Hop because Joe is so passionate about the Art

[@bwoodfilms]

10:08 those few words from chance is all we really needed to see from this video

[@docm4544]

Joe is such a control freak it's hilarious! this guy has to be Ye's long lost twin with how bipolar they both are loll, this guy talks more shit than McGregor, don't let Migos catch u Joey, better yet Wu lol

[@SpaceGoneTV]

joe is a master of what i like to call "best guess" in reality he got no idea whats going on.

[@Elosbyuri]

😂 chance is smart af tho

[@MunaAzuki]

He may be independent, but he got connects. Hella fucking connects, thats what Joe trying to say. But i've been known that!

[@TheLunarSurface]

I can get what Joe Budden is saying. If you have the industry heavily promote you or anything of yours then you’re not independent. You have the industry backing your music. You got help. But he is independent in the creating of the art, not the business practice.

[@AdolphSaxOfficial]

owning the rights to the music your record makes an independent artists. You can go get distribution for yourself if you have a proven track record for making hits. That's entirely different from signing with a record company and giving them rights to your music in exchange for them getting distribution and promotion for you.

[@TheLunarSurface]

AdolphSaxOfficial if you get industry help, you’re not independent what do you not understand.

[@trACEurace]

Appreciate you Chance, thank you.

[@KippingMusic]

Independent doesn’t mean you can’t make stuff happen and collaborate with bigger platforms.

[@DDRMR]

Joe's got a weird definition for what being independent is. Chances definition is what artists strive for, everything in house and owning your masters and publishing.

[@taniesha64]

Loves this interview

[@Marvelous_M]

I like Chance's sense of humor 7:24, Migos reference killed me 😭😭

[@SENCE302]

I’d rather hear about how he is an industry plant ? He had funding and a privileged upbringing he’s not from the bad parts of Chicago his pop was secretary of labor under Obama so funding and connections came from that direction

[@DavidBrown-dh7jf]

SENCE I can't argue with a single point, you are correct.

[@BrothaWithACamera]

No one seems to understand this point. Chance is not some regular dude from the gutter that was trying to get on. I guess people just like the idea of grinding, working hard and being successful in the end but a lot of times thats just not enough in todays world. Everybody and they momma want to be a star and its probably like 1 percent of people that make it. Your connections and where you come from matter.

[@Blanket5656]

Boy stop trying to b black just go do heroin wit ur mom

[@Blanket5656]

And ur music horrible give up a heroin addict 40 year old rapper is never goin to make up

[@SENCE302]

yaqui miller thank you your the reason I do it fucking hater

[@Insertquartertocontinue]

I couldn’t care less if Chance is independent or not. He’s kicking game to the youth and creators and telling them to keep what they create, not give it up for a few nickels. Remember, you never get what you’re worth, you get what you negotiate. Get your paper Chance - independent or not.

[@darkkiwi6312]

Chance said 2chainz is a lyricist and Joe let it slide..

[@kid100music3]

2Chainz is a dope lyricist when he tries. Rick Ross as well...

[@86Sentra]

Big sack alotta hoes like santa

[@grnd_ctrl8387]

Chainz is a lyricist. One of the funniest rappers and always a memorable feature

[@klipzdamion2769]

Whatchu talking bout 2chainz got mad lyricism when he wants to flex it its 🔥

[@bluerays897]

Look maybe not a lyricist but that nihha chainz with the word play like crazy u jusy gotta listen

[@thatphameguy]

Chance Is Right cant lie ill do business with anybody as long as I can own my rights to music

[@trevon444]

Chance drop that tape with childish we been waiting for years

[@renegademusic3186]

A union is a great idea for established artists. I am unsure if it will be like a Le'Veon Bell situation. Where they stick with what they got where they know their value isn't maximized by being under a label / risk being injured; or unionize / hold out for better and really create opportunities amongst a group. Education is key for a union though bc record labels like the NFL have an endless pool of talent. There are so many talented artists that we will never hear about bc they don't have the resources or luck if getting noticed. As a union what would be the goal? Better contracts for a select group of experienced artists, or trying to change the industry model at large? IDK if and how it can be done.

[@Alchemy77]

Joe put your videos in order from newest to oldest, not most popular to least popular. C’mon fam.

[@amalakin4444]

chance has that uplifting energy

[@helloyassine]

Shouts out to the person who told me to watch this; Chance clears up a good amount of things but there's still something suspect about him and his come up.

[@vicksingh5161]

yes i agree, i wish that was addressed. it seems that since 10 day and acid rap, there seemed to be a massive increase in his fan base, and i'm not entirely sure how he achieved with that, without any outside influence. especially getting 3 grammys.

[@casinodollaz7006]

His dad is associated with high political figures in Chicago

[@lonnieleach9761]

Im weak 18:03 joe pressed the button for the Kawhi Leonard Laugh!! On another note, Chance really showed a lot of insight to the game.