Remembering King Von | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@Skywalker721]

People claim they want this to stop, but love to celebrate the lifestyle. The gang culture is larger than ever. It’s all disingenuous.

[@rileyfreeman1531]

That’s why it will never stop. People are afraid to say hip hop culture has been negative on the black community. I like the music but some people try to go out and live what they hear. Von being a real killer is not somthin I would want anyone to idolize.

[@richfranklin9270]

Facts 💯

[@jkg_1985]

faxx its sad, these old rappers and old head industry dudes see all these deaths coming but still promote it and play dum about it...,Liberals 😴

[@Skywalker721]

@@rileyfreeman1531 Na we can’t blame Hip Hop for allowing outsiders to control the message. Hip Hop was supposed to be an alternative to the streets. People are willing to exploit their own for profit & a lot of hands are involved. This is on the black community as a whole.

[@2tired2sleep2]

@@Skywalker721 big fax

[@pollyanna147]

if this situation was flipped around, he would probably rap about it. its wrong on both sides

[@DM-lj2mn]

That’s a fact everyone saw his demise miles away yet everyone turned the other way.

[@st.charlieboyz7168]

@@DM-lj2mn so true... He made his bed.. Now he gotta lay in it..... He caused his demise..... LONG LIVE BIG CLOUT!! 🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆

[@rileyfreeman1531]

@@DM-lj2mn he woulda been gone a long time ago if he wasn’t locked up to be honest.

[@jkg_1985]

faxx, these Industry old heads can go to hell, they literally watch these young rappers lead themselves to their own downfall smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jayraider521614]

@@jkg_1985 You can't save a soul that don't wanna be saved and you can't get through to someone before they're ready to listen.

[@Glam_Broker]

I’m from Chicago and the city will never be the same😪 RIP DUCK RIP VON

[@jrcolacola]

The city will never be the same but you will still be fine asf... 👀.... RIP The Guys 🙏🏽

[@princeagbontaen8260]

@@jrcolacolaim sorry I’m here a year later. Wtf😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😭

[@Peopleofthesun386]

F Von he was a killer

[@atlluv12007]

I feel sorry for his children. This dude was an alleged mass murderer, appears to have started the altercation, and died the way he lived sadly. We have to stop glorifying the gangster culture

[@sycofya1677]

Say it louder for the people in the back!!!

[@erindaniel4053]

Agreed!!

[@themovingblade3559]

Not alleged, he’s killed few people,confirmed.

[@purefuture31]

Mass murderer is a little too much, folks only had a few bodies under his built...he got that same energy right back though 🥴

[@atlluv12007]

@@purefuture31 the definition of mass murder is three or more kills

[@kwenzapakati2688]

😂 Once again Joe contradicts himself. A year or two ago while addressing Chance and his new album, "what the fuck is this positive bullshit?! Shoot a gun or something in your verse." The beginning of previous episodes of the podcast, "shout out to all the gang members and real niggas." Von reaped exactly what he sowed and so did Chance, their trees just happen not to be the same. This notion that the yardstick for 'blackness' is being destructive, is also disturbing. When one is killing his own kind he's labelled, 'REAL.' Yet we laugh at brothers who are productive members of society, they're labelled as 'corny.'

[@bleepbloop7039]

facts, plus these women out here get turned on more by the so called 'hard' or 'gangsta' type dudes and won't look one way at a regular joe with a 9-5, the standards gotta change too

[@scottlouis4076]

Exactly, like Hopsin. Dude lives like a monk and gets labelled exactly as you just mentioned.

[@kwenzapakati2688]

@@scottlouis4076 because to be fully ingratiated into 'black society' one had to be an intelligent thug. A Rolling 60's Neighborhood Crip with a PhD in Clinical Psychology. Take a picture shirtless with a torso covered in tattoos, a glock 19 on your waist whilst reading a book (preferably the biography of Malcolm X)

[@kwenzapakati2688]

@@bleepbloop7039 i agree with you but you have to understand that the woman moves as the man does. If the man glorifies the negative aspect of his society and disregards the positive, so will she. The Muslim and Jewish man do not do so, that's why his woman does not so either

[@Hiphop_Love]

Y’all get out ya emotions this shit been happening before hip hop

[@Deemo202]

If you want to prevent what happened to King Von from happening to other people you have to change the conditions that created King Von. You have to fix the environment that King Von rapped about. And no I’m not talking about no “The people in that community need to fix their community” bullshit either.

[@dannyforeal5339]

Right but that’s going to take one hell of an effort. It’s going to be hard to erase the things that happened that bred the King Vons, the Moe3’s, The Nipsey Hussles, The Mac Miller’s, The Lil Peeps, etc. you’d have to erase the deaths of previous gang members the drug use being cool the culture of the hood in general. You could keep a lot about hood politics but then you’re kind of playing 1 foot in 1 foot out. And not to mention the guys that LOVE the street as far as they love the gang they love the lifestyle and there’s nothing me you the judge their family members or anybody could tell them. But you’re right. The environment needs to be calibrated.

[@dannyforeal5339]

@DeeSmokez Tha Road Runner good point. You always got to play devil’s advocate to. But that’s part of the change that would have to happen to none the less. It’s just easier said then done.

[@gtraingtrain9674]

@DeeSmokez Tha Road Runner dababy smoked somebody for trying him when he was with his daughter. You put a man's child in danger, you gotta be ready to have your card pulled

[@Ah-ws9nm]

How is fixing your community bullshit? Nobody with money is going to want to open up businesses in a fucked Up neighborhood. That’s why they get gentrified. If you don’t want someone moving in your community then you gotta take care of it. That’s common sense. Nobody is coming to save you. Save yourself

[@gtraingtrain9674]

@DeeSmokez Tha Road Runner I agree. Gotta pay the price for the games you choose to play

[@zyckzyck6822]

"These are children at 26 years old." And that's the problem. That's a grown ass man! That's not a child.

[@zyckzyck6822]

@Joey Drix respect and that is true! But when I was 26 I looked back at 18 and realized I didn't know shit! My generation and the ones after me have a real hard time maturing. Mainly because of the conditions we're raised in and due to the fact that most of us come from broken homes and have to figure out a lot on our own. But if you look back on at the generation before us like the baby boomers, they were faced with the same conditions (sometimes even worse) but mentally they were way more mature. They had more respect.

[@Vanessa_Martinez]

Right if they children at 26. Then why Joe put a baby in a child bc Cyn was 25. Ain't no 26 year old a child. They on some wild sht period.

[@King_Kunta]

Y’all don’t understand what that means. To my fellow young niggas, I dunno if you ever bagged a chick that was past 30 years old at 26, they call you a baby. I was messing with a 44 year old when I was 23, she called me a baby, a kid. That’s what he means by saying children, budden is 40 years old, Von was 26.

[@oneelrockwell79]

Yeah but he started in his teen. Look him up its all documented. This kid would go to school. Then come home and beef with or his teenage rivals/opposition on Twitter. One was a girl who he flirted with who was out here killing more than the guys were. At one point in time. Look up K.I. Tyquan Assassin. This has been a epidemic for the youth before the epidemic.

[@marvinholley5838]

26 is not a children...he literally has children?

[@johnq.8167]

Play gangsta games, win gangsta prizes

[@qskiii3639]

That’s fuck up how u just said that but its true smh

[@k.o.o.p.a.]

@@qskiii3639 And mo3 died recently. Loud, boisterous gangster that boasted gangster life via streams and people confirm it. It's sad af to me. We need to stop glorifying this trash and then get sad when they die. Its sick and INSANE.

[@ashyknuckle5168]

💯

[@k.o.o.p.a.]

@Red PanDa1 I understand, but so many people do. I mentioned streams, because thats where Ive seen it happen. Check streams or instagram with artists like NBA YB, or Sauce walka, etc and you'd see people glorifying toxicity.

[@Skywalker721]

@Red PanDa1 only dumb nerdy kids glorify the streets?

[@BcnEggNChz_]

We act so oblivious in hip hop sometimes. Killers get killed and we mourn and say stop the violence. Live by the Gun Die by the Gun.

[@nate8604]

The violence does need to stop though.

[@endofthestory9412]

Most of gang rappers are finding their way out to be change and make it out of all that gang shit and understand that they have to take responsibility for there family and shit in a right way when they got some settlement on this industry but I think king von didn’t had time to see that. like he was growing up with all that gang shit Like he was at prison for 3 years and then started to drop some hits then got killed like it’s so fkn sad . He was so talented and real all his songs were talking about gang shit like that’s all he knows I believe if he had some more times to be in this industry he would’ve been change just like most of the OG rappers . But who knows. Rip king von ! 🙏🏼

[@nate8604]

@@endofthestory9412 yeah, hopefully this is a wake up call to everybody else.

[@T_Time_]

Until thuggish behavior is look down upon in our culture and music. We aren’t getting anywhere.

[@matthewjohnson3302]

It’s gone get played out when real ones stand up

[@anthonyhoward-barnhardti4203]

Been saying that for years.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

I’d agree with you. But the truth is people need to man up and fight one on one and take your L. No need to shoot anybody that just got the better of you that day.

[@kardowalker]

It will fully stop when "the consumer" finally says I can't listen to it anymore.

[@BIG_DRU]

It will never happen....thuggery sells more than sex nowadays....

[@dotholla15]

When are folks gonna start being accountable of their actions

[@motsisa]

Exactly. I mean this shit of people thinking they own black neighborhoods is crap

[@zekerodgers5683]

Ima miss Von music dude was different Nd hungry you don’t get tht from new rappers these dayz

[@SaturdayMorninGaming]

R.I.P and the violence needs to stop, but “these are children at 26 years old “ is a bad statement you 4 years off of 30 at what point do you become grown up and responsible for lifestyle choices and decisions you make?

[@TheKiid810]

Facts. Pac died at 25 and i never heard anyone call him a child. Its like the ages is looked at differently with these new niggas

[@smokinstan305]

I don't think when they refer to them at children it more mentally then the physical age. At 25 pac had so much wisdom that why some of his songs still resonate till this day

[@jayshawnelder8017]

@Red PanDa1 facts pac was a rare anomaly in my eyes. Watching interviews and hearing his music you can tell that he was conscious of his decisions and consequences for living the way he was, but at the same time still involved with that life. Contradiction for sure.

[@JKJefferson]

I think what he means by children is mid 20s is when a lot of people finally become successful our step into their own it’s like they’re just starting life almost.

[@rileyfreeman1531]

@@JKJefferson I mean it’s some high school kids that are mature then 30 year olds. It just depends on who you got around you to have a certain mindset a lot of the times. Sometimes if you are around negative and shady people that’s how you can end up being too. Sometimes you can rise above that on your own. At the end of the day it’s on you to be who you wanna be in life. People just don’t always realize that and settle for what’s presented to them.

[@FreestyleEntOnline]

they were just giving him his flowers while he was still alive and well in the previous episode, thats crazy, this might be the second time this happend on here

[@tronskee32]

The first?

[@bigshadowfocus7888]

@@tronskee32 pop smoke

[@asapcasper1367]

@@bigshadowfocus7888 X too.

[@jmoneyicetea6038]

@PrinceIVY I was just about to say Kobe... Listening to them pods tripped me out man.

[@goatman380]

@@tronskee32 they gave Kobe, pop smoke, and king von there flowers before they died. Maybe Nipsey as well.

[@KingHobson1]

No one will say it but Durk and the rest of that gang have no reason to retaliate towards Quando. Quando and his people were innocent in the situation. There two angles to see the entire altercation. Quando was in the window TALKIN to his mans like a normal day. Then von walked up with a gang of people. Quando stood up and approached with 0 people behind him. Von just started swinging on Quando along with his security guard. So already it’s 2v1 ,, then all of Vons crowd approaches wildly. Then Quandos homie gets out and fired accurate shots at the threat. Then the police kill the other two. Durk and that gang shouldn’t be mad at Quando or his homie for doing what they felt necessary to survive. This isn’t high school. This isn’t jail This is a 2020 with riots nd a pandemic This isn’t play time or fight time Everyone is fighting for survival So I need one of my ogs or bigger voice spokesmen to explain that . We need more progressive ways to deal with issues We need more calculated moves Every one is only speaking on von but that incident caused 2 other people to die as well. Soo Leaders if y’all know a war is coming . Talk that war down. Explain that it shouldn’t get to a war because rondo and his team were chilling until von showed up You cant get up set at them for finishing what he started. Von underestimated who he was approaching THINKINg that he would come out on top because he’s probably done more and seen more in these streets but what he neglected to realize was guns aren’t exclusive to tough guys or bold guys ,,, anyone can have a gun on them ,,, NOO matter how tough you are or how REALL you are or how many bodies you have ,, unless your flesh is bulletproof,, still approach everyone as if they are carriers. The words that need to be said to all my people are to wisen up ,, learn from this situation. Don’t retaliate but learn. Learn that if you have love and money enough to take care of your family and bring people out of poverty then you have noo reason to risk that unless someone is trying to stop your love or money ,, And by the looks of it Quando wasnt able to stop his progression. There should be noo war ,, Chicago learn from This situation. YU wanna know what’s cooler than being known as a tough guy ,, being known as the one who made it out and is now taking care of his. It’s kooler to be alive than it is to be a tough guy.

[@danielbelcab]

All facts. I'm kinda sick of hearing people comfortable with only saying "this need to change" and not getting any deeper into the issue like you did, btw.

[@seanq9884]

💯💯

[@AAAA317]

The realest comment I’ve read about the incident since it happened

[@bossonebossone5935]

Too real

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

You were making sense until “this is a riot pandemic” “everyone’s fighting to survive” that has absolutely nothing to do with a group of idiots being idiots. 1. Mr. Von just walked up letting loose there is obviously unheard context. 2. When is it ever acceptable to shoot an unarmed man? Isn’t that what the entire BLM has been crying about? Wait! This is black on black so I guess that narrative goes out the window huh? How hypocritical..... 3. Is there anyone who actually believes there will be retaliation? Rappers get killed and nothing seems to ever get done.

[@mecthegreat92]

The irony is that the fruits of your labor is reaping what you sow. In order to break the cycle you must stop the cycle.

[@1_Lando]

Rory watching Akademics for research purposes👀

[@LordHaveMurcielago]

Proverbs 18 : 21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.”

[@draykkov4845]

We gotta give these boyz they flowers while they here... 🙏🏼

[@Trilllife-lv8iz]

Chuuchh

[@xwarxpenguin]

Or we stop killing eachother

[@allthingscrystal3924]

Our people in general❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@bigtwin4268]

@@allthingscrystal3924 what if they just got into a fight and after walk in the club and turnt up with each other

[@tangiblemammal5273]

Yup, he thought people how to kill people, in every song. Asia doll should date his killer now since she like men with bodys on them.

[@d3rtmcg3rt53]

I too used to not care about myself. I would put a homies life over my own anytime anywhere. I truly had to learn to care about myself internally, I thank God for giving me my daughter and giving me something to live 4.

[@lordcommander7551]

It was miracle for von to make it to 26. Giving his background. Im 35 and its funny how when i see von i see a kid, but when i think of 2pac i think of him as a grown man and he died at 25.

[@later7896]

26 is a dangerous age for a black male. Those mid to late 20's are dark and dangerous. Speaking from experience. R.I.P. to the young creators we've lost.

[@yungprya4956]

Old enough to realize it’s time to change trajectory but still stuck in your ways...

[@later7896]

@@yungprya4956 U nailed it !

[@AkilJacob]

"These are children" - Joe. Clueless about Von and his team. Dude was a certified killer and gangster with multiple bodies!

[@johnchaney4347]

You don’t think joe don’t know that?

[@hesaidchest]

He meant a child in the sense of he didn't knew better, he didn't know that he could do more without being in danger

[@illmatic9096]

King von was not a child, 26 is not a child. The man was grown . 2pac was 25 when he passed and i aint ever heard anyone call him a child

[@Unriven]

@@hesaidchest “didnt know better” they’re literally gangbangers that think street violence is cool and flaunt about it.

[@s.linastaffords6744]

@@illmatic9096 Pac was an old man in a young mans body

[@PeTRoL-HEadx]

Vons passion an his raw emotions in his songs were unmatchable 👑🐐

[@alguwapo21]

So wait, y'all hate fake rappers who don't talk about *THAT* life but when they do live that life and die, y'all tell them to stop? Y'all bugging lmfao

[@MartyMar908]

it’s just about being real and real isn’t necessarily a cool thing. i rather a rapper rap about their suburban life than somebody tryna be something they’re not. unfortunately most peoples attention are more focused on the negative shit

[@Ywonova]

Thats the challenge... the very music we enjoy just so happens to promote death and destruction... ands we only get sad when its our favorite rapper... imagine if the rolls were reversed and Qundo walked up on Von swinging... you know Vons team would have started firing... terrible terrible situation...our culture promotes the death of young black men and its sickening when you actually think about it... sickening part is I enjoy it.

[@MartyMar908]

@@Ywonova bro it’s so much trauma and pain going on that these guys only know how to express it through music. whether it’s negative or positive, that’s just them. we should embrace the music instead of glorifying it or shunning it and just promote making money instead. the least we can do with each other is understand and take that next step to a solution but that’s gonna take a lot of time. prayers to ya fr, idk what ya could be going through but stay blessed 💯

[@shady4chi]

Rapping about the lifestyle is one thing. Promoting it is completely different.

[@charlesgaron8131]

Have you ever listened to this?

[@aarondillon5604]

Ultimately, we know why this is “normal”. Lets not act like we’re unaware why these situations continue to arise in our culture and is constantly perpetuated in our music. Tragedy isn’t going away anytime soon. RIP KV

[@tonymelody3092]

"26yr is a child" according to Joe. smh that was a pathetically feminine statement

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@Peakus McNeel not in Chicago it ain’t. The shordies spend half the life in jail if they even make it to they 20s and don’t get a chance to truly grow into men. So it takes them longer to grow up out here. Sad to say it. 26 is a child out here for someone like von. Still had the mentality of a 15 ur old on the block.

[@doc_ofalltrades2444]

They said child about the 22 year old killer Unless I missed something

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@Libertarian Nihilist we have two definitions of what an adult is. Being in the streets and selling drugs is not the behavior of a grown man.

[@Shearsboy15]

@@TheIcemanthomas That sound like they own damn fault 26 is a grown ass man and you will be tried and treated like one WORLDWIDE at one point these retards in Chicago should realize this cycle doesn't work lmaoooooo

[@kasemalin3293]

Dude spent his entire teenage years in jail, mentally he was a klchild

[@alexisperez9299]

G Herbo is authentic without glamorizing (in recent years)

[@julianmccracken140]

Listen to Gherbo he speaks the same and acts the same. But im glad he is M alive facts

[@JusB17]

@@julianmccracken140 speaks the same, but he doesn't move the same

[@janinstuning5495]

Von couldn't handle the fame! He was clout chasing tryna get a bag.

[@JusB17]

@Red PanDa1 cause usually out of town beef is not as serious as at home..no lives lost..thats why Von thought it wud be jus a fistfight..cause he was thinking it wasn't that deep.

[@alexisperez9299]

@Derrick G I disagree entirely von is the most gangster. Don’t know who is but this can’t be factual. Herb been around everyone Von been just minus jail time. I get how time locked down differently just don’t think Herbo as long off as you making it seem.

[@LJ-fm5og]

After the age of about 26 I had to stop listening to a lot of the violent/gang/drug type of shit. It's toxic and only spreads negative energy. Change needs to come from within. J.Cole is one of the only artists speaking out about it and we need more people at the top leading the conversation.

[@derrencewhite4473]

I'm a school board member and gave a speech to kids in my district regarding this situation. R.i.paradise Von and everyone involved.

[@strawhatronin7884]

They're asking how do you stop the cycle of violence. You can't. That's a concept as old as man himself. You can only stop yourself as an individual from participating in it. Just take your ball and go home.

[@Weegee9018]

Yo Mal the white and black laces on the mochas is nasty bro you gotta take that off

[@tayeant1]

When will we realize that music & other forms of entertainment has a unconscious influence on our conscious decisions

[@xstitchesx3741]

Especially the youth

[@TheBulletDamage]

When this world comes to the point where the absurd is not laughable anymore. Only then will come real change.

[@garbougesenior3486]

You could tell King Von was a loyal dude with a good heart . Sad man just sad. Never see him again , could only imagine how his close family & friends are feeling. Prayers up

[@whome1636]

Im mad cus he was really talented and gifted. He really had huge potential, coulda been in the hall of fame. I cant name one other rapper that came out last decade that’s had his potential.

[@dellophine]

The culture has to change thats the only way.

[@Unriven]

@Woomy Woomy 🤡🤡🤡

[@selfishstockton6123]

@@Unriven nah you’re the clown for picking a side. Your politicians lied to you 😂

[@spinner771]

@Woomy Woomy Red states also got murders it’s just not that many folks there. Not to mention higher rates of poverty and disease. Alabama? Louisiana? Mississippi?

[@spinner771]

@Woomy Woomy now go stand behind confederate flag waving folks.

[@rileyfreeman1531]

@Woomy Woomy To be honest the black culture has to want better for itself as a whole too. Many of us do but it’s a lot that just settle for the streets and just are ok with just being that. Can’t wait for the government to save you cuz they really not about saving people anyways.

[@certibantz]

Can't lie....Joe got me feeling emotional listening to this. RIP to everyone gone to soon ❣

[@sweett3221]

This the crew I been waiting on

[@mrhill957]

It starts with the music, violence and drug talk is what’s getting the most traction. I rap but my music is considered “boring”because I don’t talk about that stuff nobody wanna listen to my shit they wanna hear shit to “turn up” to

[@ChrisDodges123]

He was thugging before music. They are actual GANG MEMBERS that decided to rap.

[@duke1fan90]

@@ChrisDodges123 but died from getting in beef with another rapper in another state.

[@mindyourbusiness241]

That’s not true there’s plenty of rappers that rap about other things. But it’s what people buy into at the end of the day

[@mrhill957]

@Verse Wonder go to my channel and let me know

[@ohgoshtash3137]

Just learned a new word 'trajectory' thanks Budden oh the pod cast was informative, clear and said R.I.P Von 🗣we not from 63rd !

[@niccodirenzi4126]

King Von’s death is bothering me so badly. I literally just sent his live performance to my buddy and wrote “he got it” and a week later he is dead. Its a shame really. Pop Smoke & King Von had such a potential career. RIP

[@paradigmshift7541]

Pop was whack, tho RIP, von was the truth

[@tilabeez2418]

I fell the same way about his death,and His manager wasnt being truthful about what happened when they met up with Von...He said no one knew what was going on (I beileve that),another one of vons guys said Quondo was sleeping in a car,and then Von just took off no one could stop him...The 2nd video clearly shows them all walking slowly together,then he said he had security,where were they? ...Von should have never been left so open like that it looked as if he had 20 guys with him and not 1 of them,could have done something differently?...Then ppl are saying Von was wrong,Quondo didnt know Von was coming,or out there Bullshit!!!!..There is another youtuber,hes one of those Durk sacrificed Von commentators...But the Video that i seen and im pretty sure the world,is the one where quondo is standing next to the white truck...But this other youtuber Shows a little more of the video,Quondo was is in another vehicle upfront and walked back to the Suv Tim was in, Then u see von appear walking towards the SUV that Quondo had just walked to...So Quondo had to know von and his team were out there,went to were tim was put him on game,and mostly likely told him to get the gun.. he sees von starts walking towards him and then the fight begins...I didnt see anyone jumping Quondo ,but vons crew left him to exposed they left him out in the open fighting and the rest took off in the opposite directions...It sucks that things went the way they did,and honestly I feel it could have been stopped...Everyone is saying its Vons fault he walked into that,he got what he deserved he was a killer...and quoting the bible,but what if it was your child that was an alleged killer and he was killed,And you had to see ppl who didnt know your son judge and critize him,for things that he may or may not have done its crazy how ppl are so quick to judge we are not God ..At the end of the day if he lived his past by picking up a gun to solve problems,he tried to do it the old fashioned way This time and he still lost his life and it was pointless ..Rip👑 Von 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@jeffreymbelu9718]

@@paradigmshift7541 he was till he died rip Pop

[@drummajor101]

*Black men we have to learn how to control our emotions, Von was being reckless and that ONE bad decision cost him his life.*

[@cleveapollo8049]

Black man no gangster living rappers

[@jonathanhernandez2986]

Quandos homeboy intervened and played it the way he did kingvon handled his business with quando by beating his ass

[@AirunDevon]

@@jonathanhernandez2986 Von was WRONG. He got out that car and went at Rondo on pure EMOTION. That's why he's dead. Raised by a single mother to be overly emotional.

[@rileyfreeman1531]

@@jonathanhernandez2986 People think having beef means you can legally punch someone in the face. That’s false. Who ever strikes first is the aggressor and that’s called assault. People think being a street dude means your above the law.

[@hustleup3840]

@@rileyfreeman1531 people that have never been in any situation think that.

[@philly289]

Don’t know why people are shocked. This what come with that life. Von has multiple bodies and was just laughing at duck when he died. Talking about smoking opps on his album. The energy you put out there will come back to you

[@retrojordan7484]

Fact bro he dissed dead people on every song

[@Hiphop_Love]

He didn’t laugh at duck

[@philly289]

@@Hiphop_Love he was mocking his death and trolling...tweeting about he ended beef with duck and how had song with him and all this trolling right after he died.

[@retrojordan7484]

@@Hiphop_Love what about melly, tooka wosski i can go on

[@ChrisDodges123]

We arent shocked...we are sad.

[@m1keyfreshhh256]

we cannot listen and hype that type of music and then be upset when the result is like this.... I hate it to, but its fueled by his music and the culture.... no doubt about it. why is no-one saying this?

[@seanturner3447]

Coz they wanna keep staying victimised and not take responsibility for what they’re doing

[@biffskywalker4589]

Exactly. There's many reasons no one is saying it. Some are ignorant, some can't help but be hypocrites, and unfortunately, some are paid through this shit.

[@spinner771]

@@seanturner3447 you don’t know anything about Chicago. You lame white suburban fans really think the violence started over rap? We had higher murder rates before hip hop. Go smoke your meth and don’t speak on things you don’t know

[@bleepbloop7039]

@@spinner771 lol so dont make a change and try something new? if it really been going on forever and will continue to go on forever according to you, they why not try to promote change as an experiment? but that too much work I bet, no wonder ya'll stay in the projects, society gonna stay not giving ashit about you if you dont give enough of a shit about yourself to try and fix things, but ya'll dont even wanna consider the possibility smh

[@Princeagyeman]

If you hate that type of music (Rap) why are you here? You hate it so much you even follow a podcast dedicated to the genre.

[@aaronjohnson7023]

One love to his whole family RIP Durk stay sharp keep ur guards up

[@KMimms]

I feel the say way, everytime I like new artists they pass way... I'm going back to music with no words! 🙏🏽💪🏾 for our culture and this planet and everyone on it!

[@kingzoro6058]

You all need to watch Lupe's interview on the same thing. He talked about how we should be concerned about drill artists.

[@alimataanstudios4485]

People were clowning on him years ago when drill first started popping in Chicago and said he was scared at the direction the music was heading, but he was exactly right people going back and forth killing each other.

[@Fives179]

link to interview please?

[@Naioki4]

LINK?

[@3rdSupreme]

Smh, this is super dumb, denounce the gangster lifestyle and move on.

[@nicktoosaucey8685]

von was a known killer who mocked the dead any chance he got why everyone callin him a king 😂😂😂 like when yu rap his songs his your dissing sumone dead son/grandson

[@drknjayytellem5179]

I said the same thing and got keyboard jumped. Dude was pretty much a villain.

[@nyaheh5878]

@@drknjayytellem5179 lol reallt I thought this was common knowledge I respected von but literally he killed niggas like Whatcu want he’s not a martyr 😂 still we will miss him but people really think this guy walked the path of god or something nigga was a living breathing demon serial killer

[@jaykalembwe4312]

@@drknjayytellem5179 that I don't necessarily consent with because the majority of these niggas in Chicago proceed to do the same thing it's only such a shock wave because Von had a reputation and was never afraid to represent it which is what most of these Chicago niggas tend to do. Yes he was demonic, heartless and prideful but one thing I'll never take away from him Is his modesty and integrity if you wasn't his opp he'd treat you like his homeboys I understand your perspective but labelling him a villian sounds bias af that's all 💯💯

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

You cant move the same way you do in someone else is city looking for beef.

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

@DeeSmokez Tha Road Runner the dude that killed them told Chiraq dudes to stop pressing his boy weeks ago.

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

@DeeSmokez Tha Road Runner Lil Timmy the kid that killed Von

[@Beautifully_Chaotic3109]

I wish we look at the issues... We speaking death daily and we are assessing this as if it's complicated...

[@arealking866]

RIGHT!!! I don't know if people are dumb or in on it... It's super strange.

[@Tigercam24]

this is it brah. we cannot recite death every single day and think we wont get challenged on it

[@roywilliamswilliams3594]

I agree. It's like we are in some twilight zone. I don't know what is wrong with the human mind. People are confused.

[@jkg_1985]

Social Engineering

[@freshvoice4610]

The whole "Drill" scene was the birth of a profitable curse on Chicago rappers, then it went nationwide. They have eachothers blood on their hands. There's no love in the drill scene. I'm from Chicago & I know.

[@salwanisteakhouse]

But he got killed in ATL 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@freshvoice4610]

@@salwanisteakhouse It doesn't matter. Atlanta is a respected nationwide city as well. And why that crazy subliminal emoji??

[@Bananacreambinky]

Had to double back on the intro. Keep winning Joe & team

[@invasionmedia]

They really hit the nail on the head with this one...

[@McStrokeAvision]

Their entire take is goofy as hell.

[@geraldjones1000]

*🤡😁!*

[@413.]

Fr buncha corn balls

[@geraldjones1000]

@No Malice *🤔💭🚬*..In a way!*#💯❗!*

[@CMJames]

Do you know what’s goofy? Someone dying at 26 yrs old for no reason.

[@vincemeyers2064]

@@CMJames bruh he had 7 bodies

[@ridarza]

tru... u r what u put out. &if u listen to it, if u LIKE IT, ur Embracing that energy aka ur BEING That energy, so ur ALLOWING That Energy to Flow. in other words, ur Allowing this “unwanted” cycle to continue

[@jacoblawrence8471]

Shoutout Akademiks he actually was giving these artist interviews and a platform to speak

[@tristan583]

Promoting the gangs

[@judahjudah5087]

They make like king von was a Angel.

[@wuture]

I wish a lot of these artist would do what Chief Keef did. Keef did what a lot won’t do.

[@calvinzola3687]

What he did ?

[@JoeyAPK]

@k l false. He didn’t move because he wanted. He’s literally banned from Chicago. He’d still be there if he wasn’t barred from living there.

[@pillcosby2528]

I admire keef he’s way younger then me he has matured alot he’s lowkey a mad genius he be living life out the way like he suppose to be

[@wuture]

@@JoeyAPK true but he’s smart and has stayed out. Or if he does visit. He’s mad lowkey about it. Point is.. he’s moving like someone that’s got a life worth living and wants to keep it.

[@wuture]

@@pillcosby2528 Exactly. My boy told me about it, I didn’t even notice it until my homie said it

[@MJDimension]

*This is sad I can feel the pain. I had just started listening to him too*

[@CasinoIsTheName]

They need to do an updated video

[@2piecenobisuit763]

Why didn’t the hip hop Community show this type of love for FBG duck ??

[@nate8604]

Durk, Keef, G Herbo, have the masses. Duck, I don’t think was getting quite the buzz those guys got, even though he made a name for himself, but Durk and Keef made themselves national superstars with a few hits that the whole country was bumping. I believe it’s based off popularity, the more popular rapper, and those associated with them, get the clout.

[@imchosen317]

Da industry 🍆 eaters

[@jes33kingProductions]

The way we can change this cycle is allowing hip-hop to be at its pures form and that is minus the gangster rap

[@jashawn3415]

I like the way that sounds, hip hop at its purest form

[@BcarvCreates]

3:54 these next few lines really hit home

[@him4440]

Rory checking in with J Prince is hilarious 😭

[@MrMmdbeats]

Rory's sweater in that camera angle make him look like he's shooting a snuggle commercial

[@413.]

🤣🤣

[@ez-duz-it]

At the end of the day, everybody in this situation lost. We don’t gain anything out of fighting, and killing each other. Can’t expect other people to value our lives if we don’t value our own. 🤍🕊

[@tinawilliams3999]

Love some Pop Smoke that young man he was different he had the Barry White voice but in rap

[@ayooq5853]

Shoutout To Gill And Wallo.. Million Dollars Worth Of Game 💯

[@KFrsH-ew1px]

Don’t forget they took Stack Bundles & Chinx from us.

[@Fishandspaghettishow]

Now y’all see what Kanye trying to do

[@shawnlovejr9524]

“They Keep Taking The Niggas That I Like” Bro that’s my exact fuckin feelings bro like this shit is crazy how can we fight the powers that be if we fight and kill each other

[@TheBaBaTV]

Once an artist graduates from the streets leaving the violent lifestyle, they should strictly focus on music entertainment and what they rap about is only for hype, they don’t need to still live that life anymore to prove anything, the respect is already there, fans will know if an artist is real just by seeing/listening, feeling the vibe.

[@ArtSchoolParis]

What’s there to remember? Live by the gun, die by the gun.

[@willellis502]

Shut up man..this not the time..we know that but that’s at the END of the day..people cannot remember the moments in between the Start and End of a life..regardless of how they lived, based upon one’s experience/relationship/moments with the deceased.

[@Ah-ws9nm]

@Lucianodadon But the artists egg it on. They get a kick outta it just as much as the fans do

[@GoodFilms28]

Lot of gangsters die from illness. Dumbest phrase. Just like Money is the root of all evil. Not true.

[@wooskionehundred1788]

Nothing can be done because you can't tell these young cats nothing, they momma can't. There waist deep and don't mind crashing out. Nothing won't kill the cycle tbh until we start listening to positive music and take guns off the street. These kids will snake you out and live to kill, no way you can break that cycle that's all they know, it's like chasing a high.

[@VideraMedia-]

@22:00 start bumpin Sevin thats what you gotta do Joe. Listen to his message.

[@LawrenceAdams13]

I feel you Joe I fucked with Von heavy honestly I cried when I found out because he was so talented and had so much life to live.

[@literromanceresq5871]

Mal said exactly what I was thinking a moment ago. 'The music within the hip-hop industry has gradually, over the years adopted a self destructive quality'. This formula has led to the demise of countless black artist. Music is like a diet to most black people, so when the lyrics reflect nothing but negativity, it's no mystery as to why life ends tragically for many rappers.

[@gamalielfasakin9700]

Freudian death drive

[@Ywonova]

The problem is this aint just a chicago problem... this now involves New Orleans, Atlanta, and potentially Texas... its about to be a cold ass winter...

[@ArtOfMoney1]

It’s crazy that people always shoot when they losing the fight. You never hear about people shooting if they winning. It’s almost better to say to lose a fight yourself just to not get shot.

[@eddiekane24]

Some times you have to weigh your past to see how far you come and what you have to lose

[@kylewaynes2533]

Are we just gloss over this was guy a ruthless killer.

[@dontayedaniels5710]

That’s is his reality. He was from a city and environment that made him that way. Doesn’t make his end any less sad. Imagine someone who grew up in Afghanistan trying to integrate themselves into normal society. Then dying to the gun of somebody who was still in those trenches. It’s a sad story. People like you need to stfu and listen and try to understand a situation before opening your mouth.

[@AcidLoud]

I think it’s a fucked up situation but you get the same energy you put out in the world so I’m not surprised at all. People will look past your murderous past if you make good music to them. Where was all this sadness and empathy for his victims family? This world is full of hypocrites.

[@vincemeyers2064]

@@dontayedaniels5710 bruh if he HAD to kill to survive that’s one thing. Bragging and saying how you gonna do it some more even if you DONT got to, is another. I’m sad over his death too but that’s just facts

[@rugbyru9530]

As a huge hiphop fan I feel definitely robbed this yr 🤦‍♂️

[@Bananacreambinky]

I know it's difficult for you to talk about, Joe. Thank you for the realness. The REAL VOICE. Yesss they take all the ones I like alot too. From Big to Pac to Aaliyah & It doesn't stop. Me too. I was really looking forward to hearing all King Von stories

[@NickCTaylor]

I'm listening to Sade for about 5 years.

[@ralyksj5291]

gangsta music is ENTERTAINING, people don’t know how to separate ENTERTAINMENT and REAL LIFE

[@damasgus5434]

These guys live that gangsta life before music it's bigger then music

[@bwill357]

RIP but bro was on the offense he allegedly initiated the incident this could’ve all been avoided

[@vincevincent3425]

You never approached someone he been talking smack? You felt like you deserved to die?

[@drknjayytellem5179]

I’ve been in the service for over ten years, no where near rich.. but I know to stay away from certain places where I was raised due to the culture. There always that one person who are willing to cross that line, best way to avoid it is by staying away from where those types of people roam. Stay safe kings & queens.

[@tinawilliams3999]

This is some real talk that's all about facts

[@philly289]

We listen and promote music encouraging killing and violence then get surprised when shit actually happens. It’s not just words...music one of the most influential forms of entertainment on earth. The culture needs to change if want real change.

[@hesaidchest]

This is always a touchy subject to Joe because of his friend, Stack Bundles, who died like this, shit sucks, man...

[@acegifted]

Facts was just thinking that Squad Up

[@hesaidchest]

@@angelrobles2516 Thanks, i love when i talk about hip hop and people think i'm a weeb that loves anime, little do they know i have at least 200 Joe songs on my yt page

[@queensson7008]

This is the issue i had with myself when i was rapping i realized i was my son's favorite artist but i was rapping about my life in the streets and i realized that my son was gonna try to idolize me and the life i use to live because im putting it in my songs and kinda sorta glorifying the shit.

[@ritab8088]

This is more than just hip hop..

[@Treet246]

kept looking for trouble and got what he was looking for

[@daryleballard4912]

"Sad that they died but not sad when they sell their souls. Shyte backwards man".

[@nate8604]

It’s all sad to me.

[@bostonquad2068]

A scuffle don't turn into a scuffle when somebody's losing

[@deejohn0798]

Son got everything he was looking for. It's a sad moment but it's a teaching moment, know who fucking with before you jump out the window.

[@NoName-fz9qm]

Rip grandson💔💔

[@willm4406]

That’s how I felt about lil snupe he was goin be special 🤦🏽‍♂️