Super Smash Bros. Ultimate | Richter / Simon Belmont Analysis + Intro Guide

[@JoeKSmashBros]

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[@King-Zorua]

Can you do a why you should main incineroar

[@King-Zorua]

Actually instead of doing the why you should main incineroar Can you do one for ken

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Ill be doing one for both soon, they both look very fun.

[@densetsudensetsu]

WYSM lucario?

[@geo1504]

JoeK Can you do Duck-Hunt pls

[@jswizzle3037]

this is literally how they are in their own games they can't do much when their enemies get in close to them, but they have their whip and really good (most of the time) projectiles. So I guess that the Belmonts are pretty faithful to the source material.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thats true. Speaking of the original games, Rondo of Blood is amazing.

[@darryljack6612]

Just because they are Faithful doesn't mean they don't need to be nerfed, case in point Bayonetta

[@ACBGames]

@@darryljack6612 No way does the Belmonts need to be nerfed. Bayo was pretty broken in Smash 4, and def got nerfed hard in ultimate (maybe a little too hard). But the Belmonts are no where near as bad. Their recovery is pretty bad, with the most reliable being a tether. Not to mention if their opponent has a reflect, half of the Belmonts moveset is risky to use as they can just send their projectiles back at them. And holy water doesn't even need a reflect, you can catch it and toss it back at them. The Belmonts are pretty strong when in the right hands, and I have managed to do some really good damage and combos with Richter. But they have some strong weaknesses that stop them from being too OP.

[@haydens.2755]

@@darryljack6612 Yeah the Belmonts are fine

[@jinknight2439]

@@ACBGames So? I got Elite with Richter. So your comment is irrelevant..

[@Crestfallen_Fawkes]

Im still impressed these strong macho men, were even brought to the roster, especially Richter, he’s only in a few games and still my favorite character, I don’t need a reason to main him, because i will no matter what!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Good enough reason as any :p

[@mellnasha2793]

Well Richter is the most popular Belmont in Japan.

[@timbervania2146]

Castlevania is has quite the past with Nintendo, being one of the few classics in the NES, plus a majority of the franchise has been supported on Nintendo systems. So there's a pretty good reason to why the Belmonts have made it into Smash, no need to be impressed. It was only a matter of time when coming to the Belmonts arrival in Smash

[@extremegamer7890]

The RubyOverlord only Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night

[@TheFirehands150]

@@extremegamer7890 also Dracula X (port) and remake of Rondo (PSP) and Portrait of Ruin (DS) and references to his item crashes for the rest of the series. hes the most re occurring Belmont. Reboot Trevor doesn't count cause that's not even Trevor anymore lol

[@yoursonisold8743]

I love how they gave Simon most of Richter's moves (melee, blade whirl, grand cross), but somehow Richter is the "echo fighter". lol

[@Master-Maguku]

Yourson Isold I’m glad you know this because I feel like Simon is more of the echo lol Richter does the majority in sotn

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Yea kinda weird

[@1000aaronaaronaaron]

Cause Simon would have had thos moves to represent the series anyways.

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@1000aaronaaronaaron Sounds like a big ol' excuse to me.

[@1000aaronaaronaaron]

@@yoursonisold8743 uhh... sure

[@CrazyConnor2]

I mean I decided to main them as soon as I saw the trailer, but okay I'll watch

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Ayy thanks.

[@Fishofmanyhonor]

In a nutshell.....range is why you should main them.

[@stevenliang3213]

Orange Powarangur : Range and projectiles Many characters usually only have one or the other.

[@brendanwiseman6894]

Ginsai Hahahaha no that’s not why

[@Fapas5]

Range is only for the people who want to be them but are too trash to main them

[@julliansabulao4091]

*Marth mains sweating*

[@HylianKirbo]

@@stevenliang3213 range, projectiles, AND spacing.

[@TheRealmDrifter]

0:09 I just realized that Richter almost hit Simon right in the face with his chain whip.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

wow lol

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

ouch

[@tertulsee]

Once I got Simon and played with him, I knew he was going to be very powerful regardless. His traps are so punishing if he does land them. His damage is really high. He’s spammy. This is basically a monster waiting to happen. I was playing with my friends and many of them couldn’t do much before knocking off a stock on the first few seconds

[@gamingtime3709]

I love these characters so much I just wish I wasn’t shit at them lmao

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I wish my friends didnt complain about them :P

[@CONYOADAMS]

@@JoeKSmashBros And I wish that my friend wouldn't try to stop me from maining them

[@claudiogomez2816]

Alfonso Labay Just use specials every second and you will automatically be good.

[@ultrabell517]

@@claudiogomez2816 no your a bot who only knows how to press the B button so go play fortnite noob

[@claudiogomez2816]

onebreadboi 2nd Do you think that I approve that playstyle?

[@sampai64]

Simon is the closest thing I have to a main

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Good choice tbh

[@brandonmyers5448]

Link will be my main onece I get the game but I probably still play the Belmonts

[@jinkisaragi874]

They are so hard to get used too though. I use Ridley right now but i wan't to switch to Richter as soon as i get the hang of it.

[@ultrabell517]

@@jinkisaragi874 your all bots get out of online you B pressing idiots

[@Blastopia]

Little Mac but with Projectiles

[@JoeKSmashBros]

^

[@kazbeard]

And long range attacks

[@blinktwice4044]

and aerials

[@pepperastnee2007]

Landon 247 how dare you

[@braveheart1320]

So that's why I love them

[@cameron4225]

Just spam cross, holy water and axe then forward smash or dash attack... Rinse and repeat

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Big if true.

[@chaser595]

I prefer the down A attack its got speed to get u in and out over the dash attack

[@cake6851]

Don't forget forward tilt. That shit is stupid with how many people don't know what to do against it

[@MH_Zard]

@@cake6851 the down tilt is amazing as well.

[@cameron4225]

my favorite is trapping them in the fire to set up. It usually works. Then you can tilt or dash or anything.

[@aneelahuja1212]

Too bad I'm already maining Simon lol

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Im already Trace... Simon

[@aneelahuja1212]

@@JoeKSmashBros lol

[@samernst3603]

They look like jojo characters

[@JoeKSmashBros]

big if true

[@demonman905]

Richter has a Joseph Joestar taunt (Down Taunt). And I swear if you choose color 3 (purple) for Richter, he looks just like Joseph in Battle Tendency.

[@samernst3603]

@@demonman905 And the whip kind of looks like the clackers he uses against the pillar men

[@demonman905]

@@samernst3603 I was thinking that too, but its not as strong as a connection.

[@samernst3603]

@@demonman905 True

[@scienceme9794]

I traditionally main Ganondorf (yes, I'm one of those weirdos), but as soon as Simon was revealed I knew that I wanted to play him as much as possible. While I'm absolutely loving new Ganondorf (he just buffed sooooo much thanks to his sword), Simon has been my main focus over the past few days. Who knows, perhaps he'll even become my new main (or maybe just a co-main).

[@milanmalfait9914]

I'm totally in the same situation.

[@stevenliang3213]

I’m going to feel pity for any slow characters that has to face the Belmonts. 🤣

[@JoeKSmashBros]

RIP Incineroar.

[@OmegaBoost1]

[F] Ganondorf

[@monicadelrio8385]

With the Belmont's let's destroy King k rool

[@jamesbryant2706]

bowser fire breath told me to ask how’s that recovery going

[@dylanpiper9013]

I main both Ridley and in inciniroar and every time I fight a Belmont I just get raped

[@kevinrivera9917]

It's day 3 and these guys are already bodying me 😂

[@JoeKSmashBros]

^

[@fissilewhistle]

Fast, rushdown characters give Belmont a lot of trouble.

[@user-oj3tp2us5d]

@@TheLNVM pichu is the lightest char and damages himself. Idk if you should be struggling more against pichu.

[@wontonsoup4916]

@@fissilewhistle As I am working on maining Simon (currently a Falcon main), I do realize this is true.

[@requiem9167]

These are the heroes we needed.😁

[@JoeKSmashBros]

But also the ones we didnt deserve

[@filipisotter5114]

BOI I already main them

[@JoeKSmashBros]

ayy

[@ultrabell517]

You're a bot, get out of online noob

[@MH_Zard]

im maining richter and matchups against fast characters with projectiles are hard from my experience. it's rough when they get in your face since the Belmonts have a bit of windup with almost all their moves.

[@jonathantefft2902]

When they get in close use down A to slide into them and kick them back away from you.

[@syminite1]

Use your holy water mighty Belmont!

[@FannyPackMan100]

@@jonathantefft2902 Or jab. Or simply grab them, which is effective as people tend to get RIGHT in your face, making them easy targets for a grab.

[@Iycoris]

finally the Captain N gang is back together

[@benzink8510]

Can u make a "how to play against" series where u explain the match ups ad the strategy for playing against characters because most people play 5 characters well but everyone needs to know how to play against every character. And every has that one person they know that just plays 1 character very well and you cant figure out how to stop them.

[@bloodarcher7841]

Amazing content, as a veteran of Castlevania I plan on maining the Belmont’s as they are quite amazing and versatile

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed :D

[@zeda1845]

You forgot to mention that the Down tilt is a two-part attack with pretty good range closing in distance esp vs quick projectiles like Young links boomerang & arrows

[@JoeKSmashBros]

That was a mistake on my end, thanks for setting me straight here!

[@zeda1845]

no problem!

[@ACBGames]

The cross also seems to be a good way of warding off the Links projectiles. As someone who has been at a constant struggle fighting any of the 3 Links, I have found that using the Belmonts against one turns the tables very quick for me.

[@andrewhelms6249]

I'm dying to learn the Belmonts. Your part about learning to combo off your projectiles was awesome, definitely going to be practicing tomorrow!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed that part :p

[@Adam-jo3tr]

I used to main Ness and ROB in smash 4 but they just don't really feel the same here (especially Ness) so it's been a welcome addition to be able to play and do well with Richter. I actually had no idea you could recover with the whip and honestly that makes this character 100x better, and other than that great video man

[@LordSquirrelShow]

Fighting these guys as Chrom is a nightmare.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I agree with that, unless you got platforms.

[@antonio.3432]

YES! FINALLY! MY SAVIOR! THANK YOU!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I got chu!

[@CrewToons]

Thanks for the guide it was really well done. For that I shall Subscribe. Looking forward to the next video

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thanks Chaos! Who would you like to see next?

[@CrewToons]

@@JoeKSmashBros personally Roy or Shulk or even Young Link would good with me. Thanks again for the video keep up the good work.

[@MissAshley42]

I still can't believe the axe hits so hard. The trajectory alone makes the move great. The damage and KO potential are just icing on the cake.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Yea they are very good situationally. Sometimes they feel kind awkward tho

[@Zidane_Mina]

Thank for the info, really helpful

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Welcome!

[@learrrgh2574]

Thanks this video helped a lot because I have started using Richter as my secondary

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thanks! Check out my new guide for them if you want some more help :D

[@DizzyFi]

One for Wolf would be nice #CharacterWSYM

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Next week my lad.

[@Bakesale59]

I cry every time I take DK online only to be paired against a Belmont.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Yikers

[@drizzziit1]

The fact that their recovery is almost as bad as little mac recovery is stressful.

[@UltimateTS64]

My favorite thing about the Belmonts is the combination of long strong melee attacks and projectiles that go at different angles to mix up the opponent.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

That mixup is great.

[@ryder.goose.]

I haven't played Castlevania too much, but I rock as Simon, no guilt.

[@TonyBro505]

Yup! If you wanna be good with Simon Belmont, remember, the B move is your best friend!

[@maxquiroz4722]

I just wanna play them bc of the Catslevania anime :)

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Alucard was awesome in that.

[@Lexipumpkin783]

His down a is the greatest projectile dodge I've seen in a long time

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Same. It even bounces off weak projectile as well.

[@megajago990]

I've been playing since cv sotn need I say more lmao and great vid bro

[@JoeKSmashBros]

That is an amazing game tbh

[@bogeyt15games55]

The moment i saw that range they had i immediately knew he was gonna be sick

[@JoeKSmashBros]

They are absolutely insane.

[@nitez2730]

You are so underrated omg I've been here since 1k

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Thanks my guy! I appreciate the sub for so long :D

[@matthewkeys7754]

This character really surprised me. In every game I play I always play super offensively with high speed low damage, which is the opposite of this character, and yet Richter is now my most played character by far. Very surprising

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Huh, that is very different than most. If it works tho, go for it.

[@ChronoShadow69]

From a super-casual, friggen LOVE the Belmonts! My roommate and I did our first run-through of Classic mode 5.0, and by the end, 'AXEEEEEES!' became a new in-joke for the whole apartment. 10/10, would B spam again!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Belmont 2 stronk

[@Doc51499]

Their recovery needs work but otherwise they’re great, their smashed require a little setup much like in the original castlevania games when you’re gonna use the whip you gotta be willing to commit to it

[@JoeKSmashBros]

A little up b range buff would go a long way.

[@shidensasaki5527]

There's something I'd like to confirm, maybe you can research it. Richter/Simon have some 'sweet' spots in their arsenal as well. For example, the Axe looks to do more damage if it hits around the bladed edge of the axe - like the middle of it instead of the tip. Then there's the whip - I don't know if this is true or not, but I think they took an aspect of Rondo of Blood, you do his forward Smash Attack and tilt forward just as you release the whip it extends the range slightly further and deals far more damage at the tip than usual. If you can confirm this, I'd greatly help in mastering Richter/Simon. I don't know if this is the case, but it does feel like it works. Because I already love playing as him.

[@micheloceffonipazzosgravato]

I'll keep this video in my mind beacause im a ritcher main so... uh?... wait a sec I just have to press "b".

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Side b*

[@micheloceffonipazzosgravato]

Lol

[@marcuscalixte4392]

As a Castlevania fan, I'm super happy that these guys are good (or even in!) The second I get the game and unlock them, I'm playing the *hell* outta 'em

[@Reddum990]

This is my 1st Smash game and I just discovered Simon last night. I'm playing World of Light with him and for some of the harder matches i find spamming Up + B, does a nice Ryu type upper cut that hits multiple times. It's won me some battles i thought i was gonna lose.

[@nicholaswolfe1991]

It's day three and I only have 20 character unlocked 🤣😅😥

[@quent0077]

SHAME !! Stop having a social life !

[@nicholaswolfe1991]

@@quent0077 I put in almost 12 hours I'm just a noob 🤣

[@thorsten8790]

I already have all characters unlocked i need help

[@sampai64]

I managed to get all of them in 3 days by playing world of light, exiting out, and switching to classic mode every so often

[@pokefanover900000000]

I unlocked all characters in 1 day lol

[@Connor-kh8sh]

Picked these guys up at soon as I started

[@jump7holes]

The Belmont’s are walking final smashes in this game

[@junkyardog9371]

One of the things that sucks about them, unless I am mistaken, is a very important game plan. They can't dash away in neutral game and do a shorthop DAIR or down B back towards your opponent without turning around

[@pmgmsd]

Hey, first time watching your videos. Educational and entertaining. Subbed. Look forward to more content. Searching now, but I'd be interested in an Inkling video if you haven't done one already.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I have an old one. Would also recommend Nakats as that is very good.

[@PhazerXP]

Ive always wanted to main Simon since August. The entire time Ive been studying the moveset and stuff carefully. Ever since I got the game on Friday as soon as i unlocked Simon I went straight to battle and he is fuuuuuun. So yeh thx for this guide

[@JoeKSmashBros]

He looks VERY clean. Glad you enjoyed!

[@retr0z946]

Yeah same here since he came out i wanted to main him

[@ManuelOrtiz-on8cb]

Just at 12am I noticed the Belmonts rock!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

They are insane!

[@joellim3680]

Congrats you got 17k subs in a month

[@JoeKSmashBros]

ty

[@turtato2155]

Strange how this video shows up the same day I was planning to use Richter when I get smash ultimate

[@JoeKSmashBros]

KZbin can read my mind.

[@TheWonkster]

Already planning on it

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Sounds good to me.

[@yukiterumi1120]

never fear simon belmont is here

[@jamrenzee]

I usually play semi-heavy rushdown characters like Ike, Roy, and Cloud. I was surprised by how much Simon just clicked with my playstyle despite being kind of the opposite.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Yea thats kinda weird, but cool none the less.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I prefer Sams and Dark Sams. I like using down b to zone and charging prevents you from curling up, letting you charge during the bomb detonation while your opponent can't attack you easily. Dark Sams is a tad slower, but I like how she looks better.

[@xxstaggerxx]

How do you not mention Richters down A slide combo that covers like 3/4's of the stage? Such a beastly move for when enemies get in your face.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Dont know how I missed that one, sorry! It is a great move.

[@Sean_AF]

I would love to see #WiiFitTrainerWYSM next! #SmashBrosUltimate

[@JoeKSmashBros]

The first Wii Fit vote of all time. You are a hero.

[@Sean_AF]

@@JoeKSmashBros yes! 💪💅🏼😂

[@justinjohnston6756]

my go too saying after selecting them is "time to crack the WHip"

[@JoeKSmashBros]

lol rip

[@wontonsoup4916]

Yeah, I was gonna main Simon regardless once I head he was announced. But hearing he's OP really helps x)

[@JoeKSmashBros]

lol you're welcome

[@wontonsoup4916]

@@JoeKSmashBros fuck it I subscribed cuz you responded lol

[@JohnGuyJohn]

Even if they turn out not to be top-tier, the Belmonts are a ton of fun. By the way, while Richter is faster I notice getting lag-punished for excessive rolling (guilty) with him more than with Simon. This just could be because Simon is slower anyway, so I notice the punishment less with him.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I love playing them, but they dont fit my offensive playstyle at all. RIP

[@funa8843]

holy shit dude keep your head still

[@JoeKSmashBros]

forgive

[@waterlegend72]

#CorrinAnalysis Btw I just subbed, this video was awesome and I cant wait for more like this

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Look back like 2 months and you will be happy.

[@Judeinator9001]

#CharacterWYSM Lucas Would be AWESOME

[@sactergraw8166]

Olimar WYSM!

[@ordo3297]

So, do what you normally do in the games, Put em into the ground, and when they come back (every 100 years) put em back into the ground again.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Yep Or in Simons case get em out of the ground so you can put em back in it

[@zorrn92]

It would be great to see #BowserWYSM

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I have an analysis planned soon for him. He looks p good.

[@joelschneider8529]

Hey, nice seeing you continue the guides now the game is out!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

They are a bit easier to make now with the actual game, so expect them to continue about once a week! (and more advanced guides in a few months when I actually know how to play the game).

[@lucasstafford2160]

@@JoeKSmashBros Maybe a Link in-depth guide in the future...? :)

[@JoeKSmashBros]

@@lucasstafford2160 I think I did one for him like 2 weeks ago, so go see that one :D

[@lucasstafford2160]

@@JoeKSmashBros Ok, thanks!

[@OmegaBoost1]

Once I get the game I'll be testing both Simon and Richter in training mode to see if there are differences. I had heard Richter' s movement is less stiffer compared to Simon, but I can't confirm that one way or another until someone else figures it out.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

According to datamined stats their air and ground speeds are exactly the same, kinda disappointing.

[@OmegaBoost1]

@@JoeKSmashBros Huh, that really is interesting. And I'm guessing attacks and damages are also the same?

[@MH_Zard]

Richter's holy water is better and it feels like his whip is longer while simon hits harder.

[@benfearn7961]

I wonder if Alucard will be DLC. I love Castlevania, but the Belmont's aren't really my style. Thanks for the super informative video!

[@nullvoid7188]

alucard is already an assist trophy so i doubt he'll be playable.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I wish there was other Belmonts as costumes tbh.

[@entr3_nou5]

I’ve been a Kirby main for quite some time, but that might be changing

[@slugcollection]

Imagine making a video that increases the number of Belmont players

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Not bad if you have a Wolf/Fox to beat em tho.

[@subheshbaral620]

Can you do Olimar? Thank you for the videos.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Ill do an analysis for him soon. He seems very good.

[@tatarsauce6314]

So when playing Belmont’s you wann- FOWARD AERIAL. Make sure you keep you distance from oth- FOWARD AERIAL. He has good range but his recover- FOWARD AERIAL.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

FORWARD b

[@KentsGarageGym]

Eat holy water, Mario!!

[@JoeKSmashBros]

HOLY CROSS

[@carriewalsh3313]

#WYSM Pit no one has videos about our pure lil angel

[@LightbladeRiulo]

Interestingly enough the second I got my hands on the game a lot of things changed. I dropped a few characters but in turn gained more. Of course Im sticking Meta Knight and main Samus however I’m dropping Snake however I picked up K. Rool.

[@vincentparizeau2944]

WYSM Yoshi!... Yoshi Smash Ultimate Analysis video was just 'speculations'... From one tier list to another, yoshi moves from S tier to A tier and even some (rarely) will place him B tier. Interested to hear your thoughts about the new yo-shit!

[@SpacePompadour]

You dont need to convince me I love castlevania, I put simon on the ballot for smash 4. I just came to see their tech

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Worthwhile thing to come for. Thanks!

[@TheDrumMajor]

King K. Rool for a noobie looking to find his main? #CharacterWYSM

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Ill add him high to the list, he looks amazing

[@TheDrumMajor]

@@JoeKSmashBros Thank you!

[@TheStopShort]

I’m on the road to maining with Simon and Richter, and to be honest I prefer the axe over holy water.

[@mrfcauthen]

Where can I find that sick Simon wallpaper in the intro?

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Google images for Simon Background.

[@ZackVuldin]

do you do personal tutoring/training by any chance?

[@JoeKSmashBros]

I should but havent at this point.

[@AtomicDoorknob]

i knew i would main them when they were announced and they are brutal to fight against you can easily tilt the opposing player and condition them into reads

[@JoeKSmashBros]

That seems to be how they work

[@Doc_Morbid]

The only difference between the two is the holy water. VERY minimal difference; Simon's holy water is fire and does not effect stuff like red pikmen. Richter's is some other weird shit.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

True... kinda dumb thatits so little.

[@demonman905]

Richter has a Joseph Joestar taunt (Downtaunt). Best vampire hunter.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

JOSEFUUU Forgive me

[@JoeKSmashBros]

@@demonman905 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@darkwzrd4]

So basically, they're hard hitting slow moving range characters. Interesting.

[@JoeKSmashBros]

That have a TON of range

[@samseloo4962]

WYSM Captain Falcon!

[@chrittle4892]

Dat thumbnail dough

[@JoeKSmashBros]

yeeep

[@awesomeone916]

#WYSM The monado boy, Shulk

[@JoeKSmashBros]

Ill do him next week I think. He looks super enjoyable.

[@Eskoblazin]

The difference between them is that Simon's Holy Water detonates explosives. Richter's doesn't.

[@sweep_swoop]

I’ve heard rumors that Richter’s Holy Water does slightly more damage because of that, but idk if it’s true

[@commandertaco1762]

Imo, they need to make it a bit harder to spam projectiles, people like bowser are shafted by them.

[@Rahulc1987]

Nothing particularly helpful beyond the obvious here IMO