Joel Kinnaman On Kevin Spacey Allegations - 'I Wasn't Shocked' - Jim Norton & Sam Roberts

Joel Kinnaman shares an awkward encounter where Kevin Spacey tried to shake Joel's hand through his pant fly on the set of 'House of Cards'
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[@blazedandconfused477]

Yea, apparently nobody in Hollywood was shocked. Imagine that.

[@TheKondinho]

makes you wonder what else hollywood's hiding

[@blazedandconfused477]

From the way they love to virtue signal I'd argue it's a lot. Spacey, Weinstein, these guys are just sacrificial lambs.

[@TheKondinho]

indeed

[@qtandem]

That's what makes me angrier.

[@lauralunaazul]

Yeah.

[@cnsmiles]

now being cleared of all charges, kevin spacey should sue all three of these idiots.

[@ABC-sz7rd]

no he shouldn’t.

[@yournamehere6002]

In this exchange asking about Spacey, notice that he didn't say anything negative, yet went along with the notion that he saw it coming.

[@angelrojo6466]

this guy Joel was accused of rape, what a joke. They are all scum, and loved standing in line to cancel Kevin. But the truth is only Kevin's roles and characters will be remembered.

[@nerdcruncher]

He's good on "The Killing"

[@n_n_n_n_n_n]

Yeah, he actually made that wigger character totally endearing, honestly a feat.

[@geoffrey4513]

His best role so far.

[@drzaious8136]

Geoffrey Thiry-Baetens Yep, I think mainly because it's the only thing I've seen him in where he was free to take liberties with the character.

[@LadyBlaidd]

Loved him in that and he was wonderful in House of Cards. Loving Altered Carbon 3 episodes in =)

[@Friggle_Dee]

Geoffrey Thiry-Baetens Check out Snabba Cash. Its the movie that made him in Sweden

[@RichardHorpe]

Joel Kinnaman always looks like the weird combination of a 11/10 Viking god and a crackhead.

[@Adriana-eu6ty]

To me he looks like a blonde and buff version of chris delia. And the voice is kinda similar.

[@ngrp27]

😂

[@paulcarpenter7844]

Joel kinnanan and Jon Bernthal underrated actor

[@Meatrockman]

not really. If your, let's say, Wolf of Wall Street, and Martin Scorsese calls you up. Your not exactly "underrated". But ppl love to use that word though, and sometimes I can see kinda why.

[@jakesims3589]

Jon berthnal is Joel kinnanan is very bad

[@GrizzlyAdams024]

Unappreciated or under-used I would say. Both are great actors and seem to be great people in general.

[@izraelavila769]

Impressive grammar

[@sreski504]

Was awesome in suicide squad(s)

[@rebeccaseppanen7239]

I love this guy. Very clever not directly saying things but getting his point across.

[@acrustykrab]

What are you blabbing about lady?

[@gamblorrr]

@@acrustykrab the man knows how to be subtle

[@chericaponetto449]

He was great in THE KILLING and he comes across just as genuine and real as his personality.......

[@simplyfrancois]

That's terrifyingly good acting

[@SethMcFartlane]

"We gotta ask you about the Kevin Spacey so we can cut it out of the interview and stick it up on youtube. Let's get it going viral, and get a little taste!"

[@dodogatz]

said it

[@KuroNekoExMachina]

"Imagine putting something on youtube that is news." ~same people who claim others are attention wh*res when they come out with sexual assault allegations;

[@Konverteraren]

Cheap as fuck

[@furymittens256]

*ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT*

[@jamesedward3619]

Them trying to make a big deal out of Spacey trying to shake hands through his fly is absurd. That's a typical dude-bro prank guys pull on each other. When I think back to high school, the guys most likely to do shit like that were the straightest football player type dudes imaginable. They're trying to make something out of nothing here.

[@ABC-sz7rd]

oh hush up defending a r*p!$t lol. 😩 that WAS strange and you don’t have to act like it wasn’t just bc you might be a fan of spacey. just bc guys did it in high school, doesn’t mean that it wasn’t still weird. the “straightest,” what a funny joke.

[@yournamehere6002]

I agree. Notice how that's all the guy had to say that was even slightly negative.

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

A: Jon never said he was abusive, he said he was a bit of a bully and rubbed him the wrong way. 0:26 B:You asked Joes if he was shocked about the end of the show (when it broke), he said he wasn't shocked ;but did not directly say he was shocked about the allegations and when asked to comment on the rumors he steered clear.

[@TheShreddDude]

Jimmy's fist bump line was gold.

[@glaeken_molasar]

Went underappreciated

[@cashewpistachio1826]

It got me horny!

[@cashewpistachio1826]

It got me horny@@glaeken_molasar !

[@cashewpistachio1826]

Horny,@@glaeken_molasar !

[@cashewpistachio1826]

Yes yes@purplinko , fine fine, deSPITE my name, I don't pin badges to my slices of morning toast. I guess I'm just that "TYPE OF GUY"... eh? Eh? As they say in the states? Eh? Eh? Canadia, aeeeeaaayyy?

[@SuperEgo19]

Kinnaman deserves an Oscar just for his mastery of the American accent. Unbelievable.

[@kanukki84]

That amazing, you would never know thats he is swedish!

[@Stillreal312]

That's so intresting. I keep hearing a swedish accent in his english. Bill Skarsgård on the other hand

[@kanukki84]

@@Stillreal312 Then you have very good hearing and language understanding:) Is Bill the Pennywise?

[@okyouknowwhatever]

I think Joel and Melinda Kinnaman actually have an American father, so he's half American.

[@bianco2012]

That Spacey hand move is something Uncle Paul should consider using to break the ice

[@lancegoodthrust546]

Uncle Paul? Hell, I'm doing it right now. Me and this Starbucks baritsa are about to have a moment, haha.

[@bianco2012]

brave man putting hot coffee near you giblets, i salute you sir

[@bianco2012]

oh & Nico stole the camera

[@lauralunaazul]

What?

[@obiwankenobi9439]

Only the Sith don't use that handshake at least once in their lifetime.

[@nenabunena]

Yeah Bernthal was a big fan of Spaceys and was shocked and crushed by how he was on Baby Driver. I can still enjoy his films but now you wonder if he's not that far from many of the characters that he plays

[@zachsimon5587]

Ay yo Linden! Is all I here when I see this dudes face

[@OfficialFOY]

Actually his best role imo is Frank Wagner in the swedish Johan Falk crime movies. The movies themselves aren't that good but Joel's portrayal of a civilian bar owner who does dangerous undercover work for the cops is excellent. He actually based that character on a real person.

[@Impuritan1]

The Kill was an awesome series, to me at least.

[@spuncky]

odd766 the killing*

[@Impuritan1]

spuncky correct. The Killing.

[@TheVeek192]

Spell much?

[@maevamaia]

So glad to see him. Great actor and absolutely loved him in the killing!

[@workinghoustonian]

"Ill give you a fist bump", lmfao #dead

[@Malumbrus]

"He was very friendly to me lol"

[@Kelly-bw7sb]

Loved him on The Killing

[@Mad1Lee]

He looks great with clean shave in "Altered Carbon". Here he looks a bit like a man from Alabama who took a break from his trailer life with his wife and his sister (who just happen to be the same person) to do this interview with dem Big City folks.

[@ginger_autry9722]

Shut up! lol, I love the way he can change his look so much because in Altered Carbon he did look like a different person, his The Killing character reminds me of his look here.

[@nenabunena]

Lol

[@SaraLovesTea]

Ugh I cant stop laughing at ur comment. 😂😂😂 such perfect words! I was thinking the same. He could have at least fixed his hair. But u put it perfectly LOOOL

[@bella-455]

You're my ride Linden

[@bourdie1979]

The ghetto joel peaks out 1:13

[@SrChalice]

Once there is blood in the water, the sharks will come.

[@rascalhusky8129]

Very true , great saying.

[@tarang2458]

apparently not, there's this video on youtube, that talks about how the whole "blood and sharks" things is kind of exaggerated...

[@chriskindler10]

that‘s something that Frank Underwood would say

Joel is great. I hope he gets many more great roles

[@wayneuk62]

SEEMS WE HAVE A FEW CLOSETS HERE

[@connettabrownc6055]

I absolutely love this man

[@Kracken11111]

Amazing in Altered Carbon, brilliant actor & he has a smoking body

[@kathleen1685]

I like Joel's accent. It is very subtle.

[@RobertK1993]

All celebrities wish they hadn't jumped on the bandwagon.

[@Thetache]

Kinnaman did a low key Christopher Walkern syntax when he told the fly handshake story !

[@Wiltac]

Joel is hilarious!

[@Onmysheet]

That hand through his fly story! If that is true, that's creepy as hell.

[@takmaps]

fr

[@sedargames8161]

Ana Lou Yes.

[@Jack-sc3dn]

Onmysheet really isn't creepy. You just think that in light of what has been said

[@Onmysheet]

Even before what's came out, I still would've found it creepy. As Kinnaman said, he was respectful on set but still wasn't surprised by these recent allegations.

[@vb8428]

It's funny wtf

[@creightontolliver3547]

Why didn't Tony Shalhoub talk?

[@ellainedontworry]

They all knew, and know everything is going on, it’s part of their “social lifestyle”

[@user-il6ke6dl3q]

Thought this guy has dignity

[@samueljunus4639]

yo, Linden

[@DendyJungle]

Him and the dude Boyd from narcos should do buddy cop series

[@chriscripplercruz1833]

Family guy called it years ago lol stewie running through mall naked yelling i just escaped from Kevin spacey basement freaking hilarious

[@crappymcdick]

It always sucks when homophobia is often involved in cases like these.

[@rulinghabs]

The dude is 6'2 and a half and built like he can play football. Kevin is 5'9" and built like a water boy. The guy he tried to molest, Anthony Rapp is 5'8 and built thin. Kevin ain't stupid. He would get his ass kicked...

[@jonkeuviuhc1641]

I think Kevin Spacey has Aspergers. I thought about it and it does ad up with his amazing skill at acting and making impresion. Which makes the whole thing the more tragic, Kevin Spacey is not a predator, he's just somebody who has real problems geting along with people and probably finding a partener... Just think about it in his mind he just tries to make a move on people to whom his atracted, not understanding why such things might be inappropiat. And besides that he can't get a normal life and relationship, now his carrer (for which he worked so much) is destroyed.

[@mentonerodominicano]

He's letting go of the Swedish accent a lot more. I remember it would slip at times during HoC. Kevin was definitely a gay Donald Trump. Really unfortunate he chose that path and probably thought he could laugh it off.

[@trucquynh3948]

a gay talented Donald Trump though

[@MaxRockatansky853]

Is the guy on the left the dude from Goodfellas? Dude with the pink Caddie?

[@mcskillet7106]

Frank Wagner is back at it

[@princekid5137]

Conway still salty

[@gilligan80]

Years ago spacey was in that movie where he played a teacher accused of murdering a student. I remember people making jokes and shit that long ago.

[@ram7870]

Not murder, similar allegations

[@ginger_autry9722]

Joel, you should have never offered Kevin Spacey your FIST lololololololol Wow, dude.

[@CarlMarxPunk]

THIS IS KATANA

[@littleonion7171]

Joel Kinnaman 😍

[@nablzl7918]

We have an Arabic proverb that says when a cow falls, knives increase

[@Konverteraren]

Now Kinnaman is under investigation in Sweden. Spacey, you are forgiven. Please come back!

[@analeticiagallardo2314]

If Kevin Spacey keeps making movies I'll watch. He is so talented. Who gives a fuck that someone said he groped them thirty years ago. His accuser totally tried to use the timing of the me too movement but he wasn't even transparent in court, deleted phone msgs and plead the fifth more than once. If you want to destroy someone like that you better bring it or be prepared to loose in the worst way.

[@selinakyle2368]

Jimmy saying he doesn’t go the same way Kevin spacey goes is quite funny, after who he’s married to

[@panchopuskas1]

...what's with all these interview shows with giant mics stuck in people's face and the headphones...?

[@sugarpimpdorsey9911]

WEIRD NEWS!

[@stevemuzak8526]

And all the allegations were false.

[@MrGreyfox75]

Spacey became the villain off set after having been the villain on set . That’s is so .... obvious. I feel cheap .

[@johndoe-wp8nm]

An even greater shock is that I've seen 4 or 5 videos of Joel Kinnaman in different settings with different hosts - he is wearing the same suit outfit. What's up with that?

[@michaelaavance7011]

Love Joel in Altered Carbon season 1

[@89kylestyle]

Conway will say anything to bring frank down 😋

[@angelrojo6466]

this guy Joel was accused of rape, what a joke. They are all scum, and loved standing in line to cancel Kevin. But the truth is only Kevin's roles and characters will be remembered.

[@joanofarc33]

I don't care what he did Spacey is still one of the best actors of his generation if not the best. The can put Denzel in Ice Man Cometh if they want but it will never overshadow Spacey's performance in that role. He's a master at his craft and no one can take that away from him because its already on the screen.

[@hallson2917]

He is from SWEDEN

[@eoinMB3949]

And now Joel has his own sexual abuse allegations

[@nickgeorgiou7770]

Jimmy saying he doesn’t go that way. Fast forward to today he’s married to trans woman

[@2nahan564]

I like how preAlpha actors trying to hit the nail right on spot. kiddos

[@AwesomeLJ34]

Joel is sooo good! Amazing actor in House of Cards but esp The Killing

[@chimpanzeethat87]

How arrogant of him….. and this is why nobody hires him anymore haha

[@jonjonesongasstationdickpi6179]

That just sounds like something I would do with my mates

[@analeticiagallardo2314]

Yeah it could have been totally playful and innocent and in my opinion it is low to bring that up in this context

[@boogerlui]

I don't think laughing about the whole Spacey situation is the appropriate way to be talking about it. He's a very disturbed person who preyed on minors. Seems like Spacey didn't really do anything to this Joel guy, but yet he's talking as if he's suddenly the center of the story instead of keeping the focus on the ACTUAL victims. Spacey targeted people he knew he could overpower, so he probably would not have come on to this Joel guy; real predators like him are much smarter than that. This whole interview just seemed like "oh hey bro, yeah I know that rapist, he smiled at me once, true story".

[@Mukation]

He personally worked with him for 2 years on House of Cards. He knows the guy. Of course it will sound personal when he's talking about someone he knows PERSONALLY.

[@LadyBlaidd]

Alexander Inget exactly. And it's also nice to have someone talk about their own experiences and not act like some moral superiority and talk about some victim's experience as if they know what it was like going through it or have any businesses using it to virtue signal. He just shared his experience which is what we are all qualified to do. Amd it is interesting as we all wonder what it would be like to one day find out some big celebrity we worked with for 2 years turns out to be a child abuser or rapist or murderer or whatever.

[@BiscuitAWitch]

They didn't ask him about the victims, they asked him about himself. He's laughing because his experience with Spacey was a funny situation.

[@qtandem]

Totally. Besides, when I've seen other actors (Patricia Clarkson, for example) asked about this and they all say they were not surprised about the news, I wonder what they're referring to: him being homosexual or being a sexual predator. I find it extremely disturbing because I have the feeling that they give more importance to the fact he was outed (he also seemed to be more worried about that) or even that they link both things and trivialize the whole situation. I am the one who's shocked that no one reported this before, and I don't mean the victims, but the people who had heard about it or knew it. Spacey must have been an influential actor, but he's still an actor, he's not a mogul like Harvey Weinstein, ffs.

[@brianquinn1800]

You don't go the same way..? But you do!

[@cirodimazio5169]

Killed by kindness

[@genghiskhan7006]

All I see is a innocent man

[@Iamjimpage]

I wish you'd kept in Rich's monumentally stupid follow up.

[@Spock0987]

I think if you are not a gay and a fella in a position of power comes at you, you should report immediately even if the risk of destroying your carrier in that area is real, if you let people abuse you because your carrier is more important then I don't know if you deserve to be heard, I mean I am a private English teacher if every time I need to close a contract I had to give head head or get butt fucked and I accepted and after wanted to sue these people I don't think my claim should be heard.

[@angelaschrade5679]

The Learner. You are a victim. Your story needs to be heard. I was molested 45 years ago and still find it hard to navigate life. NO ONE IS GOING TO TELL ME HOW TO DEAL WITH BEING ABUSED. IT WAS THE MOST DIFFICULT AND DIRTY PART OF MY LIFE AND I WORK EVERYDAY TO FEEL CLEAN.

[@julia_graedener]

Just horrible gossiping. Shame on them!

[@evitasdad]

Actually, they all come across as quite immature.

[@tcvttcvt4305]

Jim's a comedian what do you expect?

[@evitasdad]

lxefhyfty kjuty talent!

[@gutman450]

That's random actually. 😂

[@lauralunaazul]

He wasnt socked... so, almost everybody knows about this.

[@reshteenmal2620]

Holder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lordfarquaad8267]

He sounds arrogant.

[@johnulcer]

But he was more than happy not to say anything when it wasn't easy to do so. I'm not pro Spacey but this is just embarrassing to watch.

[@johnulcer]

rando so if he isn't asked about a famous star being creepy and making sexual advances on cast and crew he shouldn't bring it up? No, he was just cowardly like everyone else who didn't dare to speak out until after the fact when it was easy to do so.

[@iamsultana]

johnulcer C'mon, you can't go public and ruin someone's career or image just based on rumors. He'd be banned from Hollywood forever. But he confirms that people were talking about it.

[@nenabunena]

True. A lot of people are destroyed by rumor mongering, look at highschool

[@Zombeastsqurl]

J K is Bae!

[@sanjindragoljic2990]

what is he saying? spacey's gay?!

[@imaneeimanee8573]

?

[@imaneeimanee8573]

Your throw work in pizza

[@stepheng724]

Robot cop

[@bobbyburns9829]

That’s funny 😂

[@jillh7934]

I love this man even more. So evolved. God American men are so behind especially in their understanding of feminism

[@oldmoviemusic]

I know right?! Men are sooo toxic, I wish we only had women! (because it's not toxic AT ALL to demonize 50% of the population) Oh well, might as well demonize all men as either incompetent idiots or out of control rapists! It's not as if the statistics on homes without a father show that men actually have just as vital of a role in society as women, and that 70% of all suicides come from people without dads, 90% of all runaways, etc. No, let's blame all men for everything! Jesus. There is a reason feminism has become such a joke - there is nothing to "understand" about modern feminism - it is no longer about equality, it is about a massive Blame Game in which everyone is ranked by their immutable characteristics on the intersectional Oppression Hierarchy (straight white male? obvious rapist and plague on society! black trans woman? all hail the victim of our horrible society!). We should just treat people as human beings, instead of engaging in these postmodern power games. It's dehumanizing and polarizing.

[@Aughal]

Dumb and intelligent men both dislike third-wave feminism alike. Dumb people often have some common sense or intuition for some reason and get things right sometimes. Intelligent people logically understand why the movement is deeply ''problematic'' as feminists would say. In practice, that is. Intellectually mediocre people are ones are the ones who stand behind it and are involved in the moment. Mediocre sheep often have less common sense than dumb fucks. 1st and 2nd wave feminism were both good movements however. Rooted in compassion and not weakness and resentment.

[@m.2891]

Yup, this guy and the Skarsgard brothers,all handsome,smart compassionate..And I mean damnn, do all Swedes look like this or is it just he actors?

[@v-22]

Huh?

[@mylifesucks7979]

oldmoviemusic AMEN

[@georgerito5937]

Just bs conversation.

[@susannah1948]

Immature people

[@imaneeimanee8573]

FOR ANY ONE FOR EXSAPIL

[@LuxLisbon26]

Jon Bernthal is a pretty awful dude himself.

[@grammaticalerorr4654]

Unpopular opinion but Joel really fit to play as the next Bruce Wayne/Batman. Or maybe he should play in the big franchise as leading role like new Mission Impossible or Bourne reboot.

[@ZalonDK]

Or what about something original? :D

[@grammaticalerorr4654]

Yeah, I agree with that as well

[@1Animal486]

Can’t be Batman, he already plays Col. Rick Flagg in Suicide Squad

[@grammaticalerorr4654]

I know and too bad because SS is bombed but Thano and Cable are played by same actor too so I think it might be work.

[@ZalonDK]

However, Thanos and Cable are not in the same cinematic universe, Thanos is MCU and Cable is in Fox's X-Men Universe. Let's see if Disney get to incorporate X-Men into MCU after buying Fox tho, then you might have a casting problem :)

[@rebeccaelliott9770]

I don’t get why he does his hair like this in real life?! It looks so much better in roles

[@obiwankenobi9439]

Because TV is not real.

[@obiwankenobi9439]

Also not everyone is absorbed with their looks.

[@fjones1914]

There's no way in hell I would've shaken his hand or fist bumped it while protruding form his crotch.

[@Huhduh]

Slightly homophobic comments...but I mean Spacey definitely sounds creepy.

[@user-bf5vi6yg8n]

Not shocked but I still took that paycheck

[@raesosa1108]

"It's pretty simple.. what's he gonna do..." - Well some of his victims weren't all adult 6 ft 2 men, so sorry no.. it's not pretty simple Joel

[@TheHeraclion]

hated this guy in house of cards and he's a sicko!