This is Miami's NEWEST Transit-Oriented Development! | Grove Central

In this video, we explore Grove Central - Miami’s newest transit-oriented development. There’s a 23-story residential tower, shops near ground level and a direct connection to the Metrorail and Metrobus. Is the cost worth it?
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[@brantley2171]

This is a really good idea. You can widen freeways and highways all you want, but it will just make traffic worse. The only thing that will fix traffic is mixed, use, walkable developments, just like this. Glad to see the city of Miami is finally waking up and beginning to use common sense.

[@akivaplutno]

The county has been doing this for a while now

[@thedirtybubble9613]

Tell me how this is a good idea when the park and ride spaces for Metrorail were open for public access are now occupied by this condo? Unless that parking garage is for the public to use, it's not too bright of an idea to restrict this Metrorail station for these people only. That's called elitism.

[@brayg488]

@@thedirtybubble9613 2:41 in the video lmao are you illiterate or can you read the sign?

[@The_North0]

There is no common sense needed. America’s just need to deport other the Cubans

[@kevinweber5129]

It depends upon what is nearby if you can get away with not having a car. $2700 is a hell of a lot of money for a one bedroom. You probably need to be making 100K to afford the rent. I can’t imagine not having a car down here.

[@alexprieto4815]

$1,700 for THAT? Miami is wilding

[@TheJttv]

Development done right! A rare thing in the US. In a state I wouldn't expect.

[@lac2275]

If Miami construct more developments like these, it'll be a game changer.

[@thedirtybubble9613]

And if they construct parking garages for the public to use so that they aren't excluded from using park and ride capabilities.

[@asiagreen5658]

Maybe also should built some of low income units and/or physical disability friendly units( also other one like Deafspaces, blind individual units, etc.).

[@matty2128]

I really think that all of Miami's stations should be upzoned for TOD like this. It is the easiest way to boost ridership on the metrorail. Plus with the expansion that Miami wants to do with the metrorail expanding it is so logical.

[@thedirtybubble9613]

Let's be honest here the only real way to boost ridership is to expand Metrorail to all corridors of the county - where feasible. But not everyone is in favor of raising their taxes for infrastructure improvements. People want nice things but they don't want to pay for them.

[@DroOnTheGO]

This is awesome! Miami has changed so much since I lived down there.

[@browardurbanism]

Everything about this development is fantastic except for one- the parking. There's way too much of it, and too much preferential treatment given to drivers for this to be a good TOD. This building has 1,250 parking spaces. Residents are encouraged to own multiple cars. Then you add in the fact that someone coming to shop gets two hours of parking for free but someone who comes by public transit pays a full fare, and this is another subsidy to drivers. FDOT has a manual published in 2011 for what TOD should look like, and it says that there should be a parking MAXIMUM of 1 space per residential unit, and 1 space per 1000 sq ft of nonresidential uses. Grove Central, with 402 residences and 170k sq ft of retail, should have a MAXIMUM of 572 parking spaces, but it has more than double. This is not TOD, this is a parking garage with some stuff for people added onto it.

[@Lechonsitoasado334]

Remember it was built in the metro rail parking lot, so is replacing those parking spaces.

[@thedirtybubble9613]

@@Lechonsitoasado334 Which is ridiculous and counterproductive to reducing traffic congestion.

[@kevinweber5129]

Having more spaces for the park n ride sounds good. Hopefully more commuters use it. And yes they need more than 1 space per residential unit. If you can afford those rents you probably have a car anyway. Depends what else is available around there that you can walk to.

[@browardurbanism]

@@kevinweber5129 this development has a grocery store and other daily necessities already inside. The residents should be encouraged to not own cars- definitely not more than one per unit. Even with two working parents, if one drives and the other takes metrorail that’s fine. But encouraging multiple cars per household is literally the opposite of TOD- you’re actively disincentivizing people from using the transit. And park and rides are not good solutions either, people don’t use them the way it’s intended. If someone is already driving to a location central enough to have metrorail, they’re not switching to transit, they’re going to drive all the way to their destination.

[@kevinweber5129]

@@browardurbanism groceries at target aren’t that great and seem to be expensive. If there is a Publix within a few blocks then it’s ok.

[@JYP1M]

Those apartment walls better not be thin, can you imagine hearing all that noise 😂

[@xoxo20000]

Lol I guarantee they are. All the new apartments have thin ass walls

[@kevinweber5129]

As far as noise from exterior the building is probably made out of concrete block with Hurricane impact windows so should be pretty quiet.

[@JohnCavo]

What a change! I used to live a couple of blocks from that station.

[@danmcclaren5436]

Really nice video and footage of the development. I find this stuff super interesting!

[@samtrak1204]

El Franco, I pay $2000 a month for a studio in walkable and overpriced Dupont Circle in DC but it is a far better value than the less expensive but cramped studio in this video. Virtually no one owns a car in my building because Metro is only a 5 minute walk and Uber, Lyft and bikehare are readily avaiilable 24/7. Is that tiny peep hole the only window in the studio apartment? The Grove transit oriented development is a step in the right direction but Miami (and Florida) have a long way to go before it becomes a people friendly walkable community. Thanks for sharing. SAM Samuel Augustus Jennings

[@danmcclaren5436]

Transit oriented? this is basically a strip mall with a big parking garage. This will barely put a dent on the traffic, in fact it could even make it worse.

[@thedirtybubble9613]

Not only that, it took the space of the park and ride Metrorail spots. So now only the people living in this condo can effectively use the Metrorail platform at this train stop.

[@JamilLynch]

Reminds me of a 1K apartment in Japan. It's also _much_ more expensive than a similar apartment in Japan.

[@AdamM]

Great video, thanks :)

[@hectora7479]

You should make a video about the Miami fade busway BRT

[@v01c3]

Nothing less than $1980/mo for 480 sq ft on their site

[@officialjohnle]

$2705 for ~600 sqft is crazy

[@bobbyhogg5727]

I appreciate your videos. I’m a Miami native.

[@dougzer0x]

Sad about those obstructed views of the parking garage on the lower levels. They could at least hire some local artists to paint murals on it. The living space in the studio seems awfully cramped and the window is tiny.

[@KhanShafkat]

I want this in gta vi

[@jerseykevin27]

Shouldn't this be cheaper, because you're near the rail... As you get more money you end up having private transportation.. as a millionaire, I don't think I'm commuting by rail everyday. There may be exceptions but generally.

[@BeyondTomorrowNow]

So are Cubans the number one group doing construction in miami?

[@MrJestyler]

The job market in Miami is centered around service industry which doesn’t pay well. Who is going to be able to afford places like this. Tiny apartments for 2500-3000/months- I don’t think so. Just more corporate housing to drive up housing costs more. 👎👎

[@SEEMMONEY]

I hope Rockstar adds this Metro to the game and this area alone.

[@ManuelBergher]

If it’s unaffordable, nope. Simple.

[@DMfanforever2009]

It is close to my dentist

[@thedirtybubble9613]

From the outside appearance, it looks hideous. A giant gray concrete block with paint thrown over it. The store signage on the garage looks like a toddler designed it. No design homework went into this thing. Edit: I should also add that this project took the park and ride Metrorail spots for the public to use. So now only the people living in this condo can effectively use the Metrorail platform at this train stop. Keeping them honest here, this project did not put a dent in the traffic problems. Unless that parking garage is open for the public to use, the only thing the county did was dug another hole.

[@zitouchz]

modern day living is renting a 400sqft apartment for $1700 A MONTH!! but its in luxury so its okay to live like animals.

[@davidpiccolo3039]

That is horrible! Who would want to live like that?

[@dgchvz]

1700 for that closet is a joke

[@davidkasparov8043]

tired of blank walls and brutalism. at least put LED displays or something like you see in Tokyo and other cities. plant some trees (actual shade trees and gardens, not just lonely decorative palm trees surrounded by cement). look to famous cities like Paris, Rome, Vienna, Madrid as architectural inspiration - instead it looks like the goal is to make everything from our schools, shopping areas, apartment blocks all look like Maximum Security Prison oh and the metrorail system should have been massively extended forever ago

[@anonymous-r1s]

The units stink and are overpriced.

[@gc5763]

Such an ugly building though