Oh, Look. Another Doomsday Scenario To Worry About. | Answers With Joe

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We live on a water planet. And the currents generated in the oceans affect all of our lives, even if you don't live near the ocean. So as evidence seems to mount that the North Atlantic Gulf Stream is weakening - in fact, it's the weakest it's been in over a thousand years - that's something to pay attention to.
But is it the doomsday scenario many people are predicting? Let's take a look.
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[@havedalDK]

As someone who lives in Denmark and heavily benefits from the Gulf Stream, I would say this topic is actually one of the most, if not the most, taught subject in Geography classes here in Denmark. I sat most of the video going "duh" in my head, but realising just how many people that aren't aware of this, is truly facinating (in the terrifying sense).

[@wellsyboy97]

Here in the U.S my education of the Gulf stream and Oceans came from a University course. That kind of information isn't that important to training people to be apart of the workforce.... It's terrifying how little a lot of people know of what could come from what we're doing to our planet...

[@russc788]

All of us are probably unaware of something important that affects us.

[@havedalDK]

@@wellsyboy97 Yeah, I was taught this in 7th grade, that would be the equivalent of 8th grade in the US.

[@purpleturtle8841]

@@wellsyboy97 Blimey! Here in the UK, we were taught about this in primary school and it wasn't just a passing subject. I'm sure it was taught in secondary school too.

[@awfullufwa]

@@havedalDK I learned about this stuff in US middle school, 6th - 8th grade, as well. Not every district teaches the same curriculum at the same time. And I don't appreciate the "Stupid American" undertones of your comments. There's stupid people everywhere. It's also much more difficult to educate a population of 340 million vs your 5 million. Still, the US ranks high up, if not best, in the world in most educational systems despite the global rhetoric. The only thing Denmark has locked down better than the US is educational resources, but like I said, 340m pop vs 5m pop. Furthermore, I hear there's a law on the books in Denmark restricting women from wearing wigs. And something about the illegality of eating raw bacon during a full moon? Sounds pretty stupid to me.

[@rexringtail471]

I like how Ben Franklin proposed damming the straights of Florida over several years (blocking the gulf stream flow between Key West and Cuba) as an American strategy in the revolution. It would have blocked or altered the Gulf Stream and probably made the UK uninhabitable. Wish I could have seen the looks on the other Founders faces when he casually floated that Bond Villain tier idea. Absolute Legend.

[@xyz7572]

As a Scandinavian, I’m so glad you guys don’t actively try to disrupt the Gulf Stream. It is the reason that our countries are pleasantly inhabitable and not a copy for Siberia lol

[@mikeroberts9299]

With the way the world looks today we should've done it.

[@JoeRyMi]

England’s mild winters never made sense to me. Thank you, great channel.

[@EchoMoth-b3s]

The amount of research and effort that go into these videos is insane! Mondays are always better because of Joe.

[@joescott]

Awe, thanks! Glad you like them!

[@TheWhoopwhoop21]

As a South African I nearly choked on your pronunciation of the Tugela river... but then I saw the small writing.

[@caezar55]

Living in Ireland, it is absolutely ridiculous how little snow we get given our latitude. Pretty much none, maybe one snowstorm every 2 or 3 years. And it's often melted within a couple hours. We would be in serious trouble without that Gulf Stream.

[@davidmacphee8348]

Getting that way in Toronto too, not like when I was a kid here. We had lots of snow!

[@warrenbuckley3267]

@@davidmacphee8348 Yeah, I've noticed we've been getting less and less snow. Granted, we did just get hammered a few weeks ago.

[@vforwombat9915]

"Living in Ireland, it is absolutely ridiculous how little snow we get given our latitude." even the snow hates living in Ireland. ... 😉

[@WilliamStewart1]

You mean you'd have yo live like Canadians and invest in some snowplows and better insulation? Ohh how could you ever survive lol.

[@ikitclaw7146]

I live in northern england, and this winter ive not seen snow once, just a few flakes falling then rain. when i was a kid we used to build snowmen with what snow fell in the garden, now a snowball is too much to ask for.

[@wlittle8908]

My brother works in northern Labrador, Canada where it dips to -52 at night. Here in Newfoundland it can drop to -28. I live next to the ocean where with the windchill factor it can freeze your flesh in just a few minutes. Whenever i hear the words Gulf Stream i immediately think of warm gusty winds. The North Atlantic is a very unforgiving place...water land and weatherwise. Great video Joe.

[@andyjackson3414]

I don't know if ships still have Plimsoll Lines. These were lines painted on the ship near the bow. These marked the recommended load level for the vessel depending on the type of seas to be encountered. The lowest-line, the load level that would give the most free-board, was labeled WNA, Winter North Atlantic. Compare Labrador with Vancouver Island. Much warmer if ocean is upwind. The Nor'easters that blow up along the US and Canada east coast in winter are legend and somewhat unique, owing, in part to that (relatively) warm tropical water to the east, and the arctic air expressway to the north and west.

[@MartinPHellwig]

Well with those temperatures it doesn't really matter anymore if it is Celsius or Fahrenheit.

[@monad_tcp]

@@MartinPHellwig As long as its not Kelvin

[@beaker_guy]

Flew from Minnesota to Iceland in May once... Snow on the ground (though not a lot of it) in Minneapolis, 50F and light rains in Iceland. It was trippy.

[@KurtQuad]

@@andyjackson3414 Well that question set me off on a google deep dive into shipping history and not working as I should.....lol

[@demaris7598]

"The spice must flow" and the 'Over the Top' references are killing me. Love it. Love you. Keep it up.

[@douglasherron7534]

The quick flash of the movie poster was a beaut! 😉

[@johngilliam6934]

Joe, no one holds my hand and tells me how horrible screwed we are as nicely and thoughtfully as you. Thank you good sir.

[@wolf1066]

The whole bit about the undersea waterfall had me utterly rapt. I wasn't aware of it and it's easily the most awesome thing I've heard this year.

[@michellesheaff3779]

Have you seen How To Train Your Dragon 3: The Hidden World? The "Hidden World" is the Denmark Strait Cataracts. It is of course a fantastical representation of it, but just so beautiful. And fun, if you're a geography and historical nerd like me that you know the background that is not explicitly explained in the movies. These Vikings are actually Norse-Gael: Scottish Vikings that intermingled and created their own subculture on the islands from Scotland into the North Atlantic. That's why they have Scottish accents and are always on isles, sea stacks and skerries. They have to flee far to the west into the North Atlantic, and they find the Hidden World, and underwater waterfall and vast cavern, at where the Denmark Strait Cataracts would be. It's one of those multi-layered movies that can be enjoyed with or without kids.

[@wolf1066]

@@michellesheaff3779 Cheers for that. Haven't seen it so far, but will check it out due to your recommendation and explanation.

[@Dwarficus]

Whilst at uni, I dated a geologist from the University of Southampton. Whilst tearing into the movie 2012 (at least I think it was this movie) she commented that the Gulf Stream had stopped many times before, usually just before an actually iceage hits (technically, a planet with ice at both poles are considered to be in an iceage). And that the freezing of huge amounts of water during the iceage brings the concernation of salt high enough to restart the Gulf Stream again. Although this knowledge is from 2005 so likely to have changed.

[@dotanwolf5640]

There is the boufort gyre that can influence currents when released. Sun fluctuations control all oscilations in the oceans.

[@Kanitoxx]

Isn't it "The day after tomorrow? maybe...

[@jypsridic]

yea, but if people know about that then they won't be able to use fear tactics to scam us out of all of our money making meaningless efforts to stop things from changing.

[@tony6795]

@@jypsridic What's your highest completed education level?

[@drippingwax]

@@tony6795 "Third grade, why do you ask?"--Jyps Ridic, probably.

[@Anyuism]

I truly appreciate this whole line of videos and other off shoot productions that Joe makes. Perfect amounts of conversation and disclosure headed by someone who always felt like he was an old friend. And i also appreciate the fact that one of the better productions doesnt have a English host. Dont get me wrong i dig a deep English resonance its just nice to hear home sometimes.

[@messermoreaux1139]

Where can I see other things joe has made I am interested

[@williamholmes7529]

@@messermoreaux1139 in KZbin click on Joe's face to bring up his channel page then click videos. Hope this helps 🙏

[@meowmeow8873]

But he's always so gloomy. Can't he make content where he tells us climate change is all a vast democratic conspiracy to line Nancy Peloci's pockets?

[@cn5405]

Couldn’t have said or have described it better. It’s almost like Answers with Uncle Joe”

[@paulhaynes8045]

You live in a strange world! In my world, on the other side of the Atlantic, it's always a really nice (but very rare) surprise to actually hear an 'English' accent that isn't American! My kids have started pronouncing some words with an American accent because all their YT channels are hosted by American speakers!!

[@Janzeleus]

There's one aspect of this issue you seem to have missed, the destabilizing of methane hydrate on the seabed. How dare you miss opportunities for more doom and gloom. ;) Basically, as the water on the bottom of the sea warms up, more methane is released. Climate changes, oceans warm up, Gulf stream pushes slightly warmer water to the bottom... You can probably see the issue. And there's quite a lot of methane down there. Not quite a doomsday scenario but another feedback loop from climate change that just throws more fuel to the fire.

[@casbot71]

Don't worry, you'll be killed by fake investment advice before then …

[@Janzeleus]

@@casbot71 What a dull way to go...

[@dlynchious1157]

@@casbot71 I had a convo with a guy that thought I was crazy when I said social media is being littered with bots advertising things and swaying opinions. He said we don't have the tech to create bots like that. Omg I just realized he was probably a bot.

[@Aimless6]

If the hydrates did not dissolve 15,000 years ago, why would they become unstable with 130 more meters of pressure on top of them.

[@Prodigynetorg]

I think he was going to mention it the day after tomorrow.

[@kenny5760]

I'm just eating grapes with a smile on my face, now I have to worry about an invisible current that I can't do anything about. Thanks Joe

[@mikeroberts9299]

Don't worry there's a tax for it.

[@krisanctil794]

Joe, you the man, my man. You're content, neutral position, and humor are a joy to bear witness. Thanks

[@AxelHoeschen]

What I really love about your videos (and particularly this one) is how you resist the temptation to just max out the panic. Extremism seems profundly unscientific. There is so much disaster out there, a message how this one could for a change be less dramatic and just be moderate and mild is great contrast to all those doomsday scenarios we worry about. Any hey maybe, just maybe, this is up to a point a self regulating system? Keeping heat out of the arctic and stopping the melt or even re-freezing some of it could in a way restart or energize the Gulf Stream, couldn't it?

[@joescott]

I'll leave all the panic in the clickbait headline. 😂

[@petevenuti7355]

The problem is , even as it's a self-regulating system, it's with a cycle length in the tens of thousands of years, several hundred most optimistically... Life-changing for generations basically...

[@royaltoon69]

I love how you post videos right as I get off work on my fridays! I get to listen to amazing topics as I relax and drive my way home! You’re awesome joe!

[@johnsmith9403]

So, the other day I decided to watch the Day After Tomorrow, which is an exaggerated view of what might happen if the current shuts down. As they started listing the precursor disasters that would lead up to the one big one, I started realizing that they’ve already happened in the real world. And now I see your video talking about the real life scenarios that the movie is based on. I think I’m gonna go hide in a bunker for a while.

[@jonchowe]

Never forget the film was based on a "non fiction" book about climate change by Art Bell, back when climate change was still a conspiracy theory for late night radio hosts to talk about.

[@richardmckim8263]

Weather ignorance is bliss b/c every day is a wonderful surprise. Michigan was the site of WW2 education for pilots, etc, b/c of the effect of Lake Michigan... however, having lived in Grand Rapds, MI I can assure you that our lousy, overcast weather in winter, and most of the rest of the year, sucks... I also lived in Denver, CO where 275 days/year have sunshine and you can actually go golfing in January and there are so few shitty days that if your window screens have holes in them, it's no big deal b/c there are so few insets in Denver. Love Denver..... let's go now! Denver rocks, people.

[@charlesseymour1482]

Oh my. I was a science teacher for seven years. Chemistry at Lamar and HS bio chem and physics in San Antonio. This guy is the greatest!

[@foxyboiiyt3332]

As someone who lives in Ireland and is acutely aware that we are at the same latitude as places that are frozen for many months a year! This stuff really frightens me. Ireland is screwed if the Gulf stream goes away

[@caezar55]

On the upside we'd get more snow.

[@ginadelsasso288]

@@caezar55 that is not an upside.... As someone who lives with snow for 4-6 months a year, it is not as fun as it seems.

[@romancetag9313]

Worry not there is always Michael O'Leary to take care of our need for a bit of warm sunshine. Just remember to pack light or better still don't pack anything ​at all �

[@wonky_shoebox7514]

I was thinking the same.... I live on the west coast on the Ring!

[@dlynchious1157]

@@ginadelsasso288 agreeing from Minnesota 🤣

[@mattpk1609]

Im not watching many science YT channels but havent missed any of Joes videos in years. Keep it up!

[@Gorlokki]

I'm so freaking happy to see how your subscribers have increased. You totally deserved it!

[@joescott]

Awe, thanks!

[@jamesdixon2085]

Good video. The gulf stream has shut down before, when Lake Agassiz collapsed and flooded the Atlantic with icy fresh water. I don't recall how long the impact lasted though.

[@TheJohannesens]

Thanks!

[@yoursotruly]

A Doomsday Scenario walked into a bar and asked for a drink. The bartender says, "We're all full of Doomsday Scenarios but try Joe's Place, he's open to anything!"

[@openlink9958]

Alien 1: "Hey! we discovered a planet that is 70% water!" Alien 2: "Great! lets call it Ocean!" Us: "nah, it's Earth" Edit: Okay, some of you took this joke WAY too seriously.

[@beaker_guy]

What the aliens keep asking me is, "What's the name of that planet you're from again? Soil? Dirt? Mud?? Something like that?"

[@scrappydoo7887]

Well living on land might be a defining factor

[@bladerj]

and what is under the ocean ? not even earth but rocks....the only reason we have earth,soil is thanks to tall the bacteria and algea that traversed to land and died in a planet extinction

[@vforwombat9915]

@@beaker_guy "What the aliens keep asking me is, "What's the name of that planet you're from again? Soil? Dirt? Mud?? Something like that?"" what WOULD you call your planet? you're an intelligent species discovering science and astrology etc, you realize you're on a giant hunk of ...dirt, metal and water, orbiting a star. usually you wind up naming it the most basic name. like or sun is ...sol. and that works for us UNTIL aliens come along... 'what, you named OUR planet Betelgese 5? it's actually called Blorp, which translates in your language to....'ball of dirt.'

[@vforwombat9915]

@@scrappydoo7887 "Well living on land might be a defining factor" maybe. when the dolphins finally start talking to us, we can ask them.

[@DannyJoh]

I "fled" Sweden partially because of the cold. Please don't make me move even further south. Very interesting video! Thanks Joe!

[@JJs_playground]

Where did you move to?

[@phoule76]

@@JJs_playground Denmark

[@fishtailfred8686]

Wow.. Stockholm is 1400km / 900mi closer to the north pole than Quebec!

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

I fled the UK to northern Norway because I like the cold. Then I moved back to the UK for the love of a woman.

[@DannyJoh]

@@Pining_for_the_fjords Can't have it all man 😌

[@MrHugabum]

Thanks Joe. You are one of the like 5 KZbin channels I keep up with. Thanks to you and all who help out

[@MarkBarrett]

I am Personally willing to fight for You, Joe Scott. Doesn't matter what I have done so far, I can do more.

[@juker92]

Slow down Joe, i can only worry about so many apocalyptic scenarios

[@shelby8101]

I just got home from the West Indies and was actually reading The Terror by Dan Simmons (which is about arctic exploration/northwest passage). I joked to my husband about how I’m sitting at a beach reading about men freezing to death. Wow turns out it had more in common than I thought!

[@johnvoelker4345]

i liked The Terror the book, the movie sucked but, it was a very depressing read i had to set it down many times

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@johnvoelker4345 movie or BBC series? Because I watched the latter, and wasn’t disappointed. But then I didn’t read the book.

[@shelby8101]

@@johnvoelker4345 I haven’t finished it yet but I didn’t know there was a movie.. Thanks!

[@paavobergmann4920]

haha, during a summer holiday, I read "Die Schrecken des Eises und der Finsternis" ("The Terrors of Ice and Darkness") by Christoph Ransmayer. It´s about the North-East passage, but, yeah. Reading Arcitc expeditions on the Beach. It´s a good book, btw. I never knew there had been an Austro-Hungarian arctic expedition.

[@tomgucwa7319]

The captains wife , left a trail of letters , to the admiralty , dear sir go find my husband...their adventure camping , hungry, and eating food in lead sealed cans , trying to march 1800 miles. Dragging the boats and toting the paino...a wild tale

[@paulas2218]

As a Texan I got to enjoy our wonderful Gulf of Mexico and it’s warm water. As a kid I also got taken to Florida, with its white sand and warm water. Then I traveled to California. Expected to just run in that surf and enjoy swimming there. Got in up to my knees and had to run quickly back to the sand. Damn that water is cold!! The Gulf Stream is a miracle.

[@calig2349]

Great content, never heard of this in any of the National Geographic or the other world/planet channels. 💯

[@extropiantranshuman]

thanks for talking about the ocean conveyor - people need to know!

[@codder32]

Very interesting as usual. Keep up the good work !

[@crazydinosaur8945]

a small mistake 04:19 Greenland is one of the three constituent countries that form the Kingdom of Denmark/Danish Commonwealth and that make Greenland a part of Denmark. and therefore the strait is close to Denmark. your map even say that 08:19 and the strait probably got its name before 1944 when Iceland also was part of the Kingdom of Denmark/Danish Commonwealth but Great video love your content

[@joescott]

Someone else pointed that out to me and I must admit, I didn't know that.

[@tinnagigja3723]

@@joescott Where are those photos taken though? Edit: It's Mauritius, and an illusion.

[@manlystyleunder50]

CrazyDinosaur 100% incorrect, please refrain from spreading falsehoods and misinformation; you cause a great disservice to the entire community

[@tinnagigja3723]

@@manlystyleunder50 What the hell are you talking about?

[@crazydinosaur8945]

@@manlystyleunder50 okay. can u tell why my claim is "falsehoods and misinformation" that "cause a great disservice to the entire community" which part is wrong? i'm 100% sure that greenland is a constituent country in the Danish Commonwealth. and im 100% sure that Iceland was part of the Danish Commonwealth until 1944. everything i am not sure about i put in the sentence where i said "probably" to make sure people didn't take it as a fact

[@HeyMJ.]

Thanks for producing this excellent episode! The deep-dive content re the Gulf Stream is very good. Q: Where do El Niño y La Niña fit in the Gulf Stream story? 🤔

[@BruklinBridge]

Great video as always. Please do a video on the Richat Structure, the Eye of the Sahara! There is so little other quality info on it anywhere on KZbin.

[@TheMg49]

Good stuff! I always enjoy and learn lots from your videos. Best wishes for continued success! 👍🤔

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

Learned about this scenario 10 years ago in college... can't wait to see Joe's take on this

[@swagmanexplores7472]

Joe - Mmmmm icecream !

[@delusionsofgrandeur1330]

As a Calgarian I must interject and say that that may be the average temperature but those -40 weeks feel like they are the average during winter 🥶 also: Yay! You mentioned Calgary!

[@TheShadow0515]

Fellow Calgarian here. Don’t forget about the last few years where it’s certainly seemed a lot warmer during December. I’m a roofer here, and am quite often able to work all the way through Christmas.

[@Alskasaur]

Huh, my brother and I just finished the first season of The Terror which is about the ships The Terror and Erebus that set sail in 1845 to look for the Northwest Passage. No one knew what happened to them until the Erebus was found in 2014 and the Terror was found 2 years later in 2016. Your statement of this turning a lot of sailors into popsicles is *very* accurate.

[@liberty-matrix]

"Save the planet, save the planet... The Planet is fine, the people are fucked!" ~George Carlin

[@rh5971]

This has happened many times in the history of our planet. Great video!

[@kencarp57]

I’m waiting for the Ridiculously Large Telescope, followed by the Stupendously Large Telescope, then the Insanely Large Telescope, and finally the Unimaginably Large Telescope with new “Screw Vu”. Oh, and Ben says Winter is Coming, so…

[@oscardiggs246]

We’ve gone to plaid

[@whyiseverysinglehandletaken2]

"My wife and I have been cooking meals through HelloFresh for years now." Joe it's not even been like two years since they started selling in Texas.

[@anthonycoca2202]

Two is plural, so even if it has been only two years he’d squeak through and still get a pass. Don’t be such a schmuck about it.

[@howdareyouexist]

@@anthonycoca2202 shush

[@LeolaGlamour]

I use hello fresh sister company every plate. I’d say I have been using them for years though it’s been only literally about two.

[@whyiseverysinglehandletaken2]

@@anthonycoca2202 i mean yeah but it's highly unlikely but nvm sponsorships are important

[@graham1034]

**Grumbly Canadian noises** I think by "through the landmasses north of Canada" you actually mean "through Canada". Those landmasses are also Canada, with the most common sea routes being deep (~1000km) into Canadian territory. A simple look at a map makes it seem obvious that it belongs to Canada. Unfortunately many other countries are contesting this (US included) so as to avoid Canada having control over them (ability to apply tarrifs, etc). The sparse northern population is making it difficult for Canada to continually assert sovereignty in the area.

[@JMittenkit]

I think we Canadians should start populating those shores. Throw Beaver Tails at em. Ride the tobboggans after em, Polar Bears in pursuit. Send the Newfies after em! They'll drink all their alch and demand more while viciously mocking the potency.

[@lesleyb26]

A couple of years ago in the UK the gulf stream changed course and we had a well cold summer 🤷‍♀️

[@valeriepvi3667]

The good thing is that even the North-West Europe will become more like a Canada's tundra, the Central , South end Estern Europe will have a perfect chill-out climat 😊

[@bethmoore7722]

Thanks, Joe. I’ve been a bit concerned about the weakening of the Gulf Stream, and I appreciate your in-depth discussion of this phenomenon, and it’s potential affect on climate. I agree that, so far, it’s not a significant worry, compared to other aspects of our dilemma. I wish you’d talk about the jet stream, though. It is actually showing signs of collapse, and has already dramatically affected our weather in the US. I’ve been much more concerned about it, than about the Gulf Stream.

[@francoislacombe9071]

The scientifically totally accurate movie "The Day After Tomorrow" has shown us what would happen if the Gulf Stream collapsed.

[@corygepford5500]

@@Stevie-J 😂😂😂

[@ikitclaw7146]

Yes it will cure global warming, i think america should nuke the gulf stream! save us all from global warming.

[@blink182bfsftw]

Are you suggesting you can't run from an advancing winter and close the door on it?

[@W00DMAST3R]

The whole time I thought, why is Joe not mentioning this movie?

[@MyLibertyTV]

I came here just to find or say this comment. I can't believe he didn't even mention it.

[@MateusMeurer]

At this point I've seen you pronounce so many names wrong that I thought it was on purpose for the meme, but then 4:07 happened and oh boy am I laughing. you're my favorite youtuber sir =)

[@douglasherron7534]

Good spot!

[@CarrieMHB222]

I’m clicking Like because I enjoy Joe Scott’s videos, research, and humor (and I’m from TX), but I had to stop less than 1/2 way through because my mental health needs careful cultivation lately.

[@wolfjarl4959]

Thanks Joe. I very much appreciate your efforts on this channel to demystify the underlying mechanics of how various things work and above all the personable fireside chat manner in which you do it. Invariably I come away from these videos with a better grasp on the underlying concepts expressed and in a few cases a variety of jumping off points I might use for a deeper dive into them. Very happy to have discovered your patois and look forward to more of them in the future.

[@mrPauljacob]

Man that's super interesting about how complex the ocean currents are

[@degagnemarc]

Hey Joe, always good to watch you, good or bad news. Like you said, the Gulf stream as been sloooowiiiing down and as well the Jet stream because of the Gulf stream.... Here in Canada, we have been experiencing the sloooowiiiiing down of moving weather events from Ouest to Est for a bit more than a decade, may be two now. This is due to the Jet stream also slooooowiiiing down. And this as the affect of stretching the shape of it, making must larger wave shapes from North to South, and affecting us with mush hotter extremes and you as you may remember, last 2020 winter in Texas. Get prepared for more! Cheers!

[@jeanbarque9918]

was searching a comment about.. I heard that the danger isn't about golf stream but jet stream

[@CanuckMonkey13]

Just want to chime in to once again voice my opposition to Hello Fresh's union-busting habits. I'd prefer not to see ads for them, especially on videos with such great content!

[@krashd]

I'm glad a company is cracking down on unions, they are everywhere, even when I say "No unions" they still put them in my burger.

[@wlhgmk]

You have to compare London with, for instance Halifax (both sea side cities)

[@eamonstack4139]

Excellent journalism, very important topic, I live in Ireland! Thanks

[@KeithRingo]

How do you get time to make such well researched videos between filming episodes of its always sunny?

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

This was the premise behind Roland Emmerich's movie "The Day After Tomorrow." At the time of its release almost everyone thought the science in it was ludicrous...and while the writing is still very campy and over the top...some of the things in that movie have started happening, like extreme weather in places it never used to occur at intensities never seen before, flooding of entire coastal cities and most especially the scene at the very beginning of the movie where a chunk of antarctic ice the size of a small country split off from the continental glacier.

[@sarah_noodle]

That’s what I was going to comment. I was like…..this sounds super familiar

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

@@ExplosionChimp Subtly was never Roland Emmerch's forte.

[@Hummmminify]

Dun dun dun dun.....just when you thought it was safe to go in the water again...

[@Hummmminify]

@@ExplosionChimp Hey...they found mastadons that froze to death in the midst of eating flowers.....those mastadons were flash frozen somehow.

[@lyreparadox]

@@Hummmminify Nope. Frozen animals "found with food in their mouths" are the result of the preservation process. If heavy snow or mud or other corpses piles up on the animal it can push food from the stomach up the esophagus. This can also happen just from the build up of gasses in the stomach during decomposition. No flash freezing necessary. (The same thing applies to "fossil of animal giving birth.")

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

The 2004 Roland Emmerich climate doomsday movie "Day After Tomorrow" portrayed this shut down of the AMOC and the Gulf Stream, causing a sudden severe Ice Age to descend on New York and northern United States and Europe. I'm surprised you didn't at least mention this movie. You could have used some of the bits from the movie to illustrate what it would look like.

[@willmungas8964]

That movie also has this event occur in a very unrealistic, dramatized, and unscientific manner. The outcomes would look the same, but it’s worthy of note because it’s an incorrect interpretation of this event rather than a correct one

[@davidbowman2001]

@@willmungas8964 Also it’s Roland Emmerich so it’s god awful lol.

[@michellesheaff3779]

Edit: this is disproportionate to what you said, which was a mere omission. In attempting to explain why I reacted disproportionately, it only made my reply even longer than your comment warranted. And I was holding back, I could write a book about this! Anyway, I don't want to delete it because this is worth saying: the world, not just North America, would be a better place if the United States were better at international relations. So I'm posting it with the note that while your comment provoked this response, it is aimed at all U.S. international relations mistakes, and not your comment./// Yep, an ice age descends on the northern United States and Europe but totally skipped over Canada. This reminds me of when Cleveland released thousands of balloons into the air just as a publicity stunt, despite a bad weather forecast. So rain stopped the balloons from ascending into the atmosphere and strong northerly winds blew them out across Lake Erie. And an American reporter stood in front of Lake Erie and said "All the balloons just sailed north over Lake Erie and vanished! We have no idea where they went. Oh well, they're not doing any harm." They had a good laugh about it, the mystery of the disappearing balloons. Meanwhile, in the real world which doesn't inexplicably cease to exist over Lake Erie, thousands of toxic plastic balloons harmful to wildlife washed up on a Canadian wildlife conservation area on the northern shores of Lake Erie. This is not an isolated incident. This is pretty representative of US-Canadian relations. P.S. I would normally let it pass, but I just read an American get all upset a Danish commenter believed the American KZbinr that the AMOC tipping point danger is generally not taught in the US, then the US poster gratuitously insulted Canada in the next breath. It often seems like Americans only remember we even exist when they want someone to insult or blame for their own mistakes. (Every single 9/11 hijacker traveled directly into the US with zero Canadian involvement, but Americans kept blaming Canada when we were completely blameless and going to extraordinary lengths to help the US, no matter how often the completely baseless accusation was debunked. Another example: before any analysis was done, the US blamed Canada for the massive Central Canada-Midwest-Northeast U.S. blackout. Of course, it turned out the cause was human error at a U.S. power station in the Midwest. But even the most unfounded accusations stick.) When we're not only your closest ally and trading partner, providing you with far more energy than any other country (counting both oil and hydroelectricity) as well as natural resources you don't have at home, joint law enforcement and military defense, and integrated manufacturing and service industries. We have come to your aid so many times, which you always ignore, or insult us instead of saying thanks, and steal the praise or project the blame. The Iran hostage crisis, 9/11, 10 years military and 5 years law enforcement training in Afghanistan, Katrina and many other hurricanes and wildfires. Almost never any gratitude, always undeserved insults and accusations. I don't know why we keep helping Americans. It must be because we're good people. And some Americans are good people. But they're the firefighters and soldiers and rescued citizens who experienced our help first hand and they don't have much of a voice.

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

@@michellesheaff3779 Canada is a nice country, I've visited several of the major cities - Quebec, Montreal, Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver, and taken the Rocky Mountain Railroad. If there's one difference between Canada and the U.S., it has to do with the different origin stories of the two countries. Canada was settled by French and English settlers, who for whatever reason, were willing to bend the knee to the British crown. And keep bending the knee through the centuries. The American colonies were settled by a far more independent and hot headed sort who were not willing to bend the knee, especially over this business of taxation. Primarily because the American colonies were getting zero benefit from these taxes since they had long had to form their own militias and make their own guns to defend themselves on the frontier. So yeah, about those guns - the American gun industry (mostly started by German immigrant craftsmen) and the roots of the 2nd Amendment were at the heart of the success of the American Revolution. No other British colony was ever able to successfully break free by armed rebellion from Mother England, mainly because none of them had a thriving gun industry that could produce tens of thousands of muskets with which to kill British soldiers. The American colonies had that gun industry. Following the American Revolution, the U.S. did try to invade Canada a few times to try to make Canada part of the U.S., but those failed and the War of 1812 ended further efforts to make Canada part of the U.S. So for a couple of centuries, Canada was part of the British system, it's fighting men recruited to fight in British wars When the British Empire finally collapsed post WWII, Canada needed another Big Brother to tag along with, and that became the U.S., under the Cold War defense shields against the Soviets of NORAD and NATO. So yeah, Canadians long ago made the choice to be nice people and get along with everybody, including despotic kings living an ocean away. Can you not see how easy it is to overlook and ignore such nice agreeable people? Canadians have specialized in fading into the background wallpaper of history from the beginning. Now, Americans on the other hand, we had guns in every household, we used them for home defense, and then we used them to kill enough British soldiers to drive them from our shores and win our independence. We weren't bending our knee to anybody. You can of course see how this legacy of guns and violence plagues American society today, but it's this spirit of independence and manifest destiny that's driven the US forward. The US will not be fading into background wallpaper anytime soon. BTW, in regards to the AMOC and the freezing of Canada - I remember seeing in at least one Canadian city this amazing underground city built into its subway system - vast shops, grocery stores, etc. My guess is that in the movie "Day After Tomorrow" the Canadians simply hunkered down in their subterranean cities and were carrying on just fine, being much better adapted and prepared for these super cold winters. Cuz they're Canadians not Americans

[@donkeykong913]

@@michellesheaff3779 Sorry. I try to never blame Canada for ANYTHING!

[@leopendergast7670]

so entirely unrelated to the video but i find it funny that the map shown at 0:52 has omitted an entire Canadian province

[@mingklytus]

Man I love your videos. Thanks for all the hard work.

[@joethomas5216]

Joe, you forgot to mention that the melting of the ice caps will reduce the salinity of the water and make this much more likely to happen

[@davidmacphee8348]

I think he did mention it.

[@Rawkus919]

Then the North would get colder, making more ice. Drawing fresh water back out of the Ocean and balancing out the system again. Just not over night.

[@joescott]

I did mention it, but I tied it in with increased precipitation so it might be easy to miss.

[@joescott]

Also, great name! ;)

[@rasmusliedberg]

I live in Sweden and here we teaches about in school so everyone knows about the Gulf Stream and the danger it is in. It’s makes the news sometimes about how it weakens. That’s not weird. Our climate would be completely different without it and we have it to thanks for our exceptionally mild weather. It would be freezing all year around even in our warmest parts without it.

[@perpetualbystander4516]

Ja, det har du sketarätt i! 😀👍

[@jeanbarque9918]

and the jet stream ?

[@MYOB990]

It's amazing that we are still around with all the possible Doomsday scenarios out there.

[@rainkidwell2467]

Avoid assuming a Doomsday would eliminate us all. It wouldn't, it would just wipe out a majority of us over a few generations and break the societal systems we've put in place, but extinction isn't really on the table

[@davidmacphee8348]

@@rainkidwell2467 Did someone mention Putin?

[@jamalisujang2712]

Industrial civilization has only existed for half a millenium, that's a small timeframe in relation to the cycle of cataclysms on earth.

[@MYOB990]

@@rainkidwell2467 Neither is the breakdown of societal systems nor the death of a majority of us.

[@rainkidwell2467]

@@MYOB990 this statement is incoherent as a response to the one I gave

[@johnkufeldt3564]

Hey Joe, cheers from Calgary where it is currently -11C.

[@python27au]

This info has been known about for decades. I remember a similar speech from one of my teachers in primary school around 40 years ago. Which means its just been ignored for just as long.

[@kareemyasser3665]

Hi Joe, enjoy your videos but I wanted to point out that the picture you used for the Denemark Strait Cataract underwater waterfall at 4:20 (nice) is a picture of the underwater waterfall in Mauritius and it's not actually a water fall but is an illusion created by the corals and sand on the sea bed

[@veramae4098]

I googled "Denmark strait waterfall" and there are some nice pictures from the University of Punjab. Both the Denmark one and the Mauritius waterfall are drawings ... nobody's doing any photography. Can you expand on why it's an illusion? Just curious, here in Michigan there are several well-known spots where apparently gravity goes up. Park your car on the slight hill, put it in neutral, and the car starts to slowly roll uphill. It's supposed to be an illusion dependent on the horizon. I've read about it, but nobody's explained so I understand. Very odd feeling.

[@unclebrat]

Whenever I hear of Gulf Stream failure, I think of Weinbaum's "Shifting Seas." Central America experiences a catastrophic volcanic eruption above Lake Nicaragua which cuts through the isthmus. Wouldn't happen but a wild story nevertheless. Published post-mortem in 1937.

[@firefox5926]

9:42 i think they need to renamed that to the "union of terrified scientists" lol

[@vickiivins3288]

Very informative Joe. Please explain El Niño and La Niña which is devastating the east coast of Australia at the minute.

[@krashd]

Are they Chopper's kids?

[@francoistroudbal402]

great video as usual! was just wondering if the photo of the underwater waterfall was actually a photo of the island of Mauritius?

[@bearlincs]

Many thanks, Joe, for your video and its reasoned and thoughtful doom and gloom! The BBC broadcast a docu-drama on this subject a few years and it portrayed the british winter quickly becoming like Labrador's in Canada and refugees trying to cross a frozen English Channel to warmer climes, etc. All very dramatic, but it sharpened my interest in the issue. As someone living in the UK, it is a concern what might happen if the Gulf Stream did drastically slow or change course away from north-west Europe. I think as you say, it remains a possibility rather than any thing definitely proven by science. A complicating factor is the warming climate itself, including the oceans, and how this interacts with natural systems and mechanisms, including the atmospheric circulation. It does emphasise, in the absence of a definitive understanding of such matters, how we are effectively gambling with the welfare of our species.

[@kn9ioutom]

TOO COLD OR TOO HOT MEANS NO LIFE !!!

[@charlesjmouse]

Another fantastic video, I'll try not to rant endlessly this time. The 'great' thing about existential threats is there will always be many more to unhappily discover. At some point, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, one will finish us off and there is no avoiding that ultimate fate. However we can stop making new ones and work to ameliorate those others we can do something about. We are of course doing neither!

[@xyz7572]

In Scandinavia, we are all taught about the Gulf Stream in school all the way from primary school 😅 It’s the reason our countries are pleasantly inhabitable and not an environmental copy of Siberia after all lol All Scandinavians who didn’t sleep during geography class in primary and middle school are very thankful for the Gulf Stream 😆

[@Liriq]

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[@MartijnterHaar]

I live in northwest Europe (the Netherlands) and during my lifetime winters have got significantly warmer. So the slowing of the Gulfstream is currently happening is more than offset by other climate change factors. Of course that balance might change, but "really cold winters" is not a scenario the country is being prepared for, unlike rising sea levels, flash floods and dry periods.

[@orange25i]

The worries are not the slowing of the Gulfstream, but a sudden tip and total change of direction (e.g. Panama aeons ago), which would lead to unpredictable but great changes in climate

[@casfacto]

Content aside, which by the way I loved the content, very interesting, this has to be one of the best videos of yours lately. Perfect timings, great jokes. Really well done!

[@joescott]

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[@therealspeedwagon1451]

I still think we should be prepared for the absolute worst case scenario when it comes to this. Who knows all of this could be human activity and Europe will completely freeze over in our lifetimes. It’s something to keep in mind

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[@joescott]

Wow, thanks! Both of you! Yeah, we do enjoy it; it can be hard to find the time sometimes but it's always a fun experience. May I recommend playing the Serge Gainsbourg Pandora station. Makes you feel like you're cooking in a Parisian apartment. :)

[@matszz]

Never doubted you but thank you for bringing up the saline cycle aswell, pet peeve of mine.

[@mitchellhardy5895]

I live in Calgary, and it blows my mind how little people know about the gulf stream with the effect that chinooks have on us in the winter

[@lornegutz95]

Hey Joe its all good stuff. I have read before that the gulf stream my not have a great affect on northern Europe. Well I haven't made up my mind yet. There was a time in the past when cold water put the world back into an ice age for about 400 years. In North America water runs north when you are about 200 Km north of Lake Ontario. When the glaciers melt moved north there was a huge lake developed north of the Canadian shield. Hundreds of km wide and long. Caused by an ice dam just south of James bay. There was a lot of water dumped into the north Atlantic when that broke. Now if your interested I could find you a couple of peer reviewed papers on what took place back then. It's amazing at just how much ice melted in just under 10.000 years. Also scary not knowing exactly what could bring an end to this inter glacier period as we struggle with our man made warming. I sleep under a toad stool :)

[@jonathanbush6197]

Thanks for the video. I would like to remind everyone that even though this video is called a deep dive, it is still under 15 minutes. Some details were bypassed. The effects of marine thermal vent ecology and gravity fluctuations due to tectonic movement were left on the cutting room floor. My head reels with righteous indignation. But then I remember Joe's sage advice: Be nice.

[@Jens.Krabbe]

Well, that getting into the importance of the cliff off of Iceland resulting in a 3 km waterfall could be termed a deep dive in of itself. 😉

[@joescott]

Yes. Like every subject I can't get to every last detail. But if it gets people to search further and find more details like this one, I feel like I've done my job. Which, thanks for sharing that so others may go learn more about it themselves. :)

[@edlibey8177]

Thanks. You did a good job being even handed and presenting a few different points of views.

[@Lupin-Koolwood]

Why did the first second and mini ice age all melt? Were people driving Hummers 10,000 years ago LOL

[@DulceN]

A fascinating subject. I live near Norfolk, on the coast of Virginia, where the Gulf Stream often brings tropical storms and hurricanes for six months of the year (starting on June 1). The sea level rise is already an important issue to consider when purchasing real estate here, in order to avoid future losses.

[@sandrag3854]

Calgarian here - cool to hear the city mentioned. 🙂

[@Wantabe2188]

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[@Dejayyy96]

I like this channel. I feel like this channel and smarter every day need to collaborate. Also higher elevations are typically colder and Calgary is about 3,400ft higher in elevation than London.

[@xnow1936]

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