MAN DUMPS DEAD FISH NEAR VEGAN…INSTANTLY REGRETS IT!

[@JoeyCarbstrong]

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[@zakgaming77]

no lol

[@angycucumber4319]

Why did you make a dhar Mann title

[@saucejohnson9862]

I’m not a vegan but I admire your passion.

[@dexter-jy3yk]

vegans: human are animals animals kills other animals vegan: is natural human kills animals vegan: that should be illegal to all vegans in here, why are we the only animal that can't eat other animals.

[@yytheshubzer2106]

The way you dealt with and spoke to this calm, young gentleman was wrong Joey. I'm a big fan of yours however this guy was calm and composed throughout the discussion; unlike yourself.

[@amberawchild]

It’s interesting to see these grown ass men and women consider these basic moral ideas for the first time in their lives.

[@Jamart2662]

Thats because meat & dairy industry has brainwashed humans to think its all ok and nothing wrong,and so for their own convenience and selfishness people keep believing it, ignore the info of cruelty and unsustainable eating animals is and constantly trying to justify their actions. Its so nonsensical!

[@Jamart2662]

@a p Thats probably because you have a high level of emotional intelligence. Most people who have high levels of emotional intelligence are more empathetic, sensitive and conscientious.

[@angycucumber4319]

It’s normalised to the point where they don’t question it

[@AvashMonajemi]

its sad to see grown men advocating for nutrients deficiencies like Joey! Vegan diets are horrible and you should be held accountable

[@angycucumber4319]

@@AvashMonajemi the American dietetics association has said that vegan and vegetarian diets can be healthy in all the different stages of life

[@whatiswrongwiththeworld8451]

"I don't particularly like you...but I wouldn't want someone to hurt you." Exactly this. You don't have to like someone or care about them to realize that they deserve to not be murdered.

[@veganizeeverything2769]

Hi Elijah, I like your channel.

[@whatiswrongwiththeworld8451]

@@veganizeeverything2769 thanks. Gonna upload something later this evening.

[@HQ4575]

Exactly! I don't hate animals but I really really hate koala bears, doesn't stop me from recognizing their right to life.

[@AvashMonajemi]

its human nature to kill and feel angry. We're just exercising it

[@HQ4575]

@@AvashMonajemi rape is also adaptive for men and is part of human nature, doesn't make it justified.

[@orion_5128]

"Come and face me, fish boy" that killed me 😂

[@liawilbourn]

🤣 I know right?!!

[@sofialois5815]

I LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN HE SAID THIS!!! HAHAHAHA

[@clapwingbirb]

I was really surprised that the fish boy wasn't just a young kid being a bit disruptive..! You handled him well Joey, I hope he will start thinking more about why he eats animals

[@saraabdulla8982]

Ya 😹

[@firangele8094]

Lol!!

[@somepolishdude9853]

You handled "fish boy" like a champ 😂🏆

[@scottpedley7801]

‘I don’t particularly like you’ 😂

[@rafaelq88]

More like “fish man child” lol

[@johnsmith-fz5pz]

@@scottpedley7801 nothing wrong with eating fish. vegans are so silly. I would stop someone trying to kill you for a sandwhich. yeah so would I its called murder.

[@simonedgbaston]

@@rafaelq88 🕊 No need to be like that just because he seems as if he has a learning disability 🐟

[@peacefulbeast8386]

@@johnsmith-fz5pz ?

[@ApexHerbivore]

First bloke seems like a genuine decent guy, just lacks a little knowledge.

[@ltings5806]

Respect to him tho because it was obvious he was trying to educate himself. I have a lot of respect for anyone willing to learn the opinions of others.

[@ApexHerbivore]

@@ltings5806 same. I think he reminds me of me before I went vegan. Not opposed to the idea just not understanding it.

[@MrDRPARNASSUS]

Yeah... he lacks the horse sense 4 reel man!

[@simonedgbaston]

@Thomas Shelby 🌱 Not more intelligent but informed to see through the bullshit the industries convince us of by inaccurate advertising all our lives Tom 💚

[@thewiseowl8804]

@Thomas Shelby he meant lacks knowledge about veganism

[@waywardwinchester]

Well Fish Boy definitely embarrassed himself in public in front of his poor daughter while trying to mock a vegan and a dead body of a marine animal. His hoodie literally says "Lost In The Aftermath" on the back?? Wow talk about an irony.

[@austindobbins8957]

What a shock that someone so immature actually didn’t attempt to deny what you told him and just wisely tucked his tail and walked away with his eyes at his toes

[@BenjoCovers]

Some people are dishonest or have a big ego. Some are just dumb

[@Shedoeswhatshewants]

That guy thought he would get away so easily 🏃‍♂️ Joey was like nope 👎 💚💚💚💚✌️✌️✌️

[@joepapa6329]

@@pacmanmcgavin7847 where is the OG Pac-Man mcgavin?

[@johnsmith-fz5pz]

haha he came back and faced microphone boi. so he isn't a coward is he?

[@AaronVets]

@@johnsmith-fz5pz 🤡

[@kullulillu]

He went home to have some good meat 🥓🍖. I love meat and you can do nothing about it. 🤤

[@ffs6969f4u]

"I'm not coming from an ethical perspective..." Well, that's obvious, and it's exactly the problem we're trying to solve.

[@missoats8731]

Hahaha, great 😂

[@danielespin9125]

@I invented Google as well as a perspective to respect people’s opinions

[@johnsmith-fz5pz]

thats right. untill all viguns are gone.

[@johnsmith-fz5pz]

@I invented Google I know like being allowed to eat meat. because we have a God who created us. allow it :D

[@raygunsupernun]

@@johnsmith-fz5pz gods not real bro get a life 😂

[@paulaagam5071]

Joey: “you’ve never needed to eat an animal right?” Guy: “I went camping once” Lmao 😂

[@oda7966]

Hehe, yea, but he kinda corrected himself after though. He seemed like a nice and open minded human😊

[@danielespin9125]

@@oda7966 freak

[@danielespin9125]

@@oda7966 you talk like an alien, you are also a human,human

[@KleenerBro]

"But this is true for any kind of animal 😏" (stupid fish protestor, gotcha now!) "Well, that's why I dont eat any kind of animal." "😐. Huh?!"

[@achatmaster95]

They really got us with that one, damn. how can veganism ever possibly recover from this?! /s

[@activetumor2084]

Fish guy is the same guy that posts "mmm bacon" to offend vegans, its refreshing to see him confronted

[@AvashMonajemi]

I want to confront vegans and let them know their diet is killing their brain

[@missoats8731]

To be honest it didn't seem like he knew what a vegan is 🤣

[@missoats8731]

@@AvashMonajemi Hey man, how are you doing?

[@brucecampbell6578]

@@AvashMonajemi Actually if you gave up the blood in your own sacraments you might find a more open pineal. Empathy is the source of all our wisdom.

[@80slimshadys]

@@AvashMonajemi You should confront the research scientists in the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics and tell what they don't know. You seem to know more than hundreds of thousands of scientists that have confirmed that lifelong vegans that more often than not have better health outcomes actually have brain issues that aren't apparent.

[@juliotattoo]

Dude , fishs feels little vibrations in the water , imagine when they are catch with a hook ?

[@vegandemon3259]

@@karloseduardo7176 for someone who said they don’t care you sure have been commenting on a lot of vegan videos

[@Nadjasmin13]

@@vegandemon3259 dont forget *the earth is still full of idiots* 🙌 dont expect something smart.

[@gregbertofro]

damn good point

[@vargvikernes4859]

@@karloseduardo7176 then why you're here loser

[@johnsmith-fz5pz]

imigine if the fish didn't bite the lure. it wouldn't be eaten for dinner

[@koshgam]

Everyone has a choice ------- the victim has no choice!

[@om-boi]

Sustainable fishing would be an eternal holocaust of sentient beings. Really well said. I’m taking that.

[@veganworldrising9972]

"Sustainable" fish slavery is more like it.

[@om-boi]

@@veganworldrising9972 Agreed.

[@housevibez8828]

Fish Boy was actually a good person. He just never heard of something like this before.... When he was confronted he was listening and was honest.

[@MasterM333]

He might have acted differently, if he didn't have his child with him. Tbf, I'd be embarrassed to act in that way in front of my child.

[@wraithofsolidarity]

It's good to believe in others and to not make an enemy of them, not matter how negative their opinions are. I'm not very good with cars.. in fact, my car IQ is probably around 56. I'm car boy..

[@pumarealtor]

a good person would ask questions about something they don't understand. fish boy wasn't bad, just foolish.

[@Mercymurv]

Yea, struck me as different from the trolls who understand the argument but troll anyway.

[@pumpkinhead1977]

Ignorant fish boy totally embarrassed himself with that stupid act! Shame!

[@ivanhagstrom5601]

At least he owned up to it and was humble when questioned. Joey handled it really well

[@aabracadavra]

That's a whole man. Probably has kids, too. Pathetic immature behavior. These are the alleged Alpha males of today.

[@charlee6357]

It was hilarious!

[@charlee6357]

@solo xi what mate?

[@charlee6357]

@solo xi wanna shot

[@Tbonethe1nfinite]

Thank you so much for speaking up in such a cruel world.

[@aravisthetarkheena]

omg 🤣🤣🤣 "COME AND FACE ME FISH BOY!"

[@watchdominiondocumentary266]

What's wrong with taking a B12 supplement to save an animal's life? How is that too much to ask?

[@TVideoupload]

You don’t even need a supplement you can grow it too then eat what it grows on it’s a bacteria

[@TVideoupload]

@Genghis Khan b-12 is produced by a bacteria, it is found inside certain foods “naturally” but taking a supplement is also easy too so whatever

[@youatemysandwich1]

The first guy totally understands everything but there's something in his brain that's trying to talk him out of it. He will definitely change. Confident in that.

[@andrewksmash8138]

When he went home and found out how unhealthy eating animals is he changed his mind

[@myblueheaven4424]

Holy shit that guys like 50 years old and he's so childish he actually bought that fish to dump on your table.

[@jesperbergesen9597]

That lvl 1 carnist thought he could get away with dropping a fish corpse in front of Joey. Little did he know he was challenging a lvl 99 vegan

[@missoats8731]

Hopefully he's at least lvl 20 vegan-curious now

[@seabermuda]

It's so comical to watch the crowd casually walking by not realizing they're in the presence of world famous You Tuber Vegan Joey Carbstrong !!!

[@80slimshadys]

lol yea

[@andrewksmash8138]

That poor kid.. “you’ve embarrassed me enough dad this is why you only have custody every other weekend”

[@stevenohenries5127]

To be fair to the guy, at least he was willing to admit that he was wrong, and he did seem genuinely embarrassed at what he’d done so who knows... he could very well be a future vegan!

[@Azubjourni]

Yes he saw the hypocrisy, wich many people don't. Atleast give the dude credit for that, he felt guilty...

[@bludaizee24]

That guy thought he was so clever didn't he? He definitely looked like he regretted it. What a coward! Love you Joey!💞💞💞

[@polmonroig1182]

Is there an onlinr version of the pamphlet you give to people? That one that says "vegan facts", I would like to show it to a friend of mine, see if he becomes vegan... nice work by the way! Love what you are doing here :)

[@chrimo995]

@Arotix Edits its important to inform people. But in the end they decide if they want to pay for tortured dead animals or switching to a vegan diet. Nobody "makes" them vegan.

[@oatymilkshake]

@Arotix Edits If people are "making you go vegan" you'd be vegan. Stop playing the victim card, the animals are the victims.

[@rainedyani8505]

@Arotix Edits, pretty sure that if you were being sexually assaulted and tortured and had a knife at your throat you’d want someone fighting like hell for you too.

[@housevibez8828]

@Arotix Edits You cant make people become vegan. You can show them the facts and they will decide for the selves.

[@polmonroig1182]

@Arotix Edits my friend wants to be vegan but is not convinced yet. I just want to inform him. And there is nothing wrong with making a person vegan because 1. They will be much healthier 2. They won't be part of the murder of innocent beings 3. They will contribute much less to climate change.

[@stevengreen11]

"Are you a bit of a coward?" Roasted. Fully embarrassed himself in front of his daughter. How shameful.

[@creampuff4721]

It must be really hard to keep your cool in these situations, I can't do it, stupidity like that makes me instantly furious. Shows a lot of strength and confidence on your part, good work.

[@scottwaugh8839]

Crushed that guy at the end lol. Was getting told off like a little boy hahaha good job Joey

[@stephanschulz9610]

Man, the fish boy went instantly from "hero" to zero. 😅 Did he ever think about the consequences behind his food choices? He's maybe 45 years old and seemed like this was the first time he heard what a fish actually is. Good work, Joey! You're a master in this kind of activism. Love it! 👏

[@thelostmotel209]

It's just sad that he thought this is a GREAT idea to show off in front of his daughter 🤷

[@veganioan]

The main guy said he did not care „personally” that he inflicted pain and suffering. Of course! That happens when you are the abuser. You are blind!

[@MCRMarauder]

Daughter: Can we go home Dad? Dad: Just wait here whilst I get schooled Daughter: Mum says you’re getting divorced

[@thepinoz]

22:18 "that could be true or that could not be true". wow, useful comment mate, thanks for your insight

[@alisonharrisuk]

The man at the end there, dumping the fish, is why I love these debates! He was stunned in to silence because Joey was armed with information. With maturity. With words. The pen is mightier than the sword!

[@Mocha111]

I love your quote at the end “The pen is mightier than a sword”, I know a similar quote, “sometimes strength must surrender to knowledge”

[@thewildwoodlandgarden.420]

"What's this mate, come and face me fishboy" 😂😂😂😂

[@RySpirit]

Hope Fish boy's daughter saw this and remember this moment.

[@BernsteinOmega]

He should've told the first lad that even his energy drink has B12.

[@alisiademi]

If everyone gives the exact same responses in these debates, that indicates mass programming.

[@amitabhkakkar5780]

I think the guy questioning his stance was fairly chill and handled the conversation very maturely.

[@qualifiedidiots2165]

He ends up looking like he just got caught by the teacher. What a mororn.

[@grammarofficerkrupke4398]

Fishboy embarrassed himself but actually seemed to have a lot of redeeming qualities. He stayed and ate his humble pie, took his fish back and walked off defeated. At least he took it on the chin. He just seemed very uneducated on the subject.

[@Ostekat]

Do wild animals have B12? Yes. But so does water before we treat it. If he wants to be consistent he should go drink water from a lake. EDIT: He's already being inconsistent though - as he is already taking a B12 supplement :D

[@Tom-sx4tw]

This makes no sense?

[@dopeyfx1783]

@@Tom-sx4tw What about do you not understand?

[@jackson1342]

@@dopeyfx1783 it doesn't make sense at all

[@extinctionistrecordsblackm6380]

@@jackson1342 how doesnt it make sense? a carnist would claim he needs to shoot wild animals for b12, but he could also just go drink from a wild lake. modern water loses b12 in the purification/sterilization process. thats why you dont get it as much from your tap water etc

[@Tom-sx4tw]

@@extinctionistrecordsblackm6380 It's way safer to have B12 from wild animals than from dirty water obviously. I'm not even sure how much B12 is in dirty water. Any source on this?

[@gamegirl949]

Appreciate your patience talking to these stubborn meat eaters, Joey! Keep up the great work!

[@noahgonzalez5589]

Joey has really grown and the mutual level of respect he's getting in these debates is admiral and quite effective to the cause. 👏

[@d.grogan647]

I don't know how it's possible, but Joey keeps getting better at this.

[@CogDiss]

That man is 50, dresses like a 14 year old and had the critical thinking capacity of a preschooler

[@cesare4214]

People are so badass with their actions until they have to talk. Then all of a sudden they're not badass anymore. What a joke of a person. Absolutely embarassing.

[@totezmcgotez44]

Lol, the fish boy was unwittingly making an argument against single-issue campaigns.

[@popinontoast]

What a prick! That would upset me so much during outreach- love how you handled that Joey

[@alisiademi]

The fact that that guy was with a little girl maybe his daughter when he dropped off the dead fish and ran away scared... who tf was he trying to impress?

[@cynicalidealist11]

I think you could've crushed the appeals to nature a bit harder but otherwise good work.

[@AvashMonajemi]

it was good brainwashing that's it

[@justroberto5052]

@@AvashMonajemi what do you mean?

[@aurimasb1558]

@@justroberto5052 meaning that veganism is a brainwashing cult.

[@justroberto5052]

@@aurimasb1558 how is being against animal exploitation and cruelty a cult?

[@missoats8731]

@@aurimasb1558 Isn't asking people to align their actions with their morals more like anti-brainwashing?

[@deborahforte2446]

It's incredible the amount of ignorance in people till this day ! Wow !! Thanks so much for everything Joeyy!!!!💓💓💓💓

[@TheBlaze4000]

That'll be like saying it's incredible how many people don't know how to use a typewriter therefore the world is ignorant. You spend every waking moment thinking about veganism, it's kind of a given that every argument you hear from a person that's never thought of it before will sound unconvincing and repetitive. Nonetheless, this does not mean the world is getting more ignorant but rather that you have no life. Don't think for a moment you're intellectually above carnists just because you understand simple scripts of logic.

[@Dullball57balldull75]

Love everything you do Joey, thank you so much

[@humanityisdumb4551]

@R if your standards for food is the food standing in its own piss and shit, while our standards are clean vegetables that have only been in dirt at most, then I think your standards are low, and our clean food is cheaper.

[@AvashMonajemi]

he's done a lot of damage to human health

[@CC-ck5nn]

You did a great job Joey. I have total respect for you. I wish more people would pay attention to what you're saying. I started out vegetarian and thruKZbin i watch your channel and the vegan couple which gave me insight. I have now started to incorporate the vegan life.

[@housevibez8828]

Real quality intros and videos! Love it! We are lucky you are doing this! You are the modern Gary Yourofsky!

[@dragonskylords9032]

Gary didn't do street outreach, he did educational talks mostly, but I know what you mean. Joey is one of the best out there now.

[@housevibez8828]

@@dragonskylords9032 True... Yeah i meant by being direct with his message. Even tho Garry Yourofsky is still unbeaten with his direct approach, thats what i love! Garry is a real expert when it comes to this!

[@pfscpublic]

"Come and face me fishboy!" 🤣

[@MrDRPARNASSUS]

Man... joey just gets better and better and then even more better. That was faultless joey. Outstandingly impactful. Direct and true sir. Truly Excellent stuff. Couldn't take my eyes and ears of the screen man!

[@nerlind]

Obviously we have the choice. He is there to discuss those choices.

[@Wearephuct-O]

Video production quality is looking great Joey

[@gorazdkp4903]

I'm surprised the guy was ready to chat after dumping the fish.

[@paulaagam5071]

Damn, Joey handled that with absolute class.

[@terkfranks1538]

FYI - vitamin B12 is not produced by plants or animals. It's produced by bacteria. It's commonly found in bacteria laden manure and unsanitized water. (This is why we need B12 supplements for both people and animals)

[@user-tu9ox4hj9g]

Certain types of algae, such as nori (used in sushi), chlorella, and spirulina, are known to contain B12.

[@Matheus-si8vq]

Thank you Joey!

[@Wayfaringwolf]

The first fellow was fantastic to listen to. Willing to learn, not just rebuke anything that contradicts his thoughts. Dude if you're reading this, please look into the topic further!

[@vocalvegan4686]

B12 is found in mushrooms. Concentration of that b12 can be a solution, especially because mushrooms can be grown almost anywhere. Research into vegan foods has not been given the focus, the funding or the resources that the animal flesh industry has been given. Ask yourself why.

[@establishedin1991]

That man who dumped the fish packages appeared to get more ashamed throughout the conversation. Great way to call out someone who tries to make mockery or a joke out of somebody else's suffering.

[@Susenbach]

Why is it, "At the end of the day you're taking a life but"..... he had it right until he added that "but". He would never have added this if this were a conversation about human beings. People are so disconnected.

[@malkz613]

Because it’s a fish not a human. Yes it’s still a life but there is a difference.

[@Susenbach]

You say this because something is not in the same species as you?? What does that matter? Pain is pain, suffering is suffering no matter what the species.

[@Susenbach]

@Magnectlyn Monroe Ah yes aren't you the smart one 😊 so by your comparison it's totally cool for me to slaughter and eat humans right? I mean fish eat fish right? And whose really the greater evil here??? 🤯

[@deadfred6231]

@@Susenbach You lost that one didn't you!

[@Susenbach]

@Magnectlyn Monroe Well since you are to stupid to comprehend. 🤣 Let me break it down, Human beings are evil because we pollute the planet, enslave people and animals, take others resources, invade eachother over religious beliefs, bomb eachother, experiment on other beings for cosmetics, I can go on and on...

[@richardbenham1475]

This guy represents online trolls, the fish is their comment and running away with feeble excuses their actions. Great way to humble this guy 👌🏼👌🏼

[@viviandarkbloom8847]

True. The fiercest commenters tend to look like Jenkis the Gamer in South Park.

[@zodd67]

The guy who put the fish on the table is literally the type of internet trolls who talk about eating steaks on every vegan video.........

[@thelostmotel209]

Yes! This was real life "I'll post a meat gif". But you see: these people have children and think this is a way to interact even with humans and teach it to their children 🤷

[@jsav100]

Exactly. If you eat most animal flesh you are ALREADY supplementing your B12 because the animal is receiving the supplement in their feed or through injections. Not to mention that most animals are herbivores. When you eat plants and take a B12 supplement, the animal isn’t involved in the process and doesn’t need to die. Thank you for explaining this to people Joey!

[@charlotteward4863]

I’ve had such a rubbish day. This has cheered me up no end!! 💚

[@Lucx1Dx]

Petition for the urgent creation of "Come and Face Me, Fish Boy" t-shirts 😂 Amazing as always Joey

[@susanb9400]

Fish boy looks and acts like a guilty naughty schoolboy lol. Nice work Joey. xx

[@nomindstate]

From what I now, drinking from untreated running water can be a source of b12, before we did the filtering process.. I believe if Joey only had said that, it could easily shut down his b12 argument

[@pan_vegan3245]

“If I was vegan I could have a salad”, says no vegan ever. Please give me sustenance. Oh yea and “we are just like lions”. Non vegans always say the same thing 🤣

[@scottyghouse]

That salmon was Tassel I think, so yes factory farmed. For anyone interested in reading about the salmon farming industry in Tassie I highly recommend “toxic “

[@johnbull6909]

Good job Joey. Keep up this great work you are doing.

[@searchingsoul1728]

The first guy was so close to getting it....soooo close.

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

Never mess with an ozzy vegan, otherwise you'll be called fish boy.

[@VeganiseAnything]

One of the best debates with a twist :) Amazing job, Joey, we can see your confidence grow 👏👍💚

[@areon656]

Go on Joey my guy, man said "like i don't particularly like you" hahahahaha

[@jehzab]

Pain is not the only factor. What about the psychological factor. If you gave dog pain killers then kicked the crap out of it it doesn’t really justify the harm because they didn’t feel it.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Joey you recited a false fact. You said that 200 years ago the average person would live to age 40 when the other guy you were debating said that perhaps they lived to 60 on average. People are misrepresenting the facts when they say that the average adult died young back then… The main difference between then and now is the infant and child mortality rate. That’s what plays a huge issue in the statistics. If a child makes it to a certain age, then the likelihood that they were going to have a nice long life was great. But you can imagine that if people were losing their babies/children often (especially babies, because childbirth has always been a dangerous event, which our modern hospitals have done a great job in saving the babies in problematic pregnancies), then that is going to drastically bring down the age of life expectancy statistic, which completely misrepresents the fact that adults were living to an old age all the time back then.

[@touchfuzzygetdizzy]

Irrespective of either of the 2 interviewee’s behaviour, they now know a little bit more about being vegan and the justifications behind it which is all we need right now. Hopefully they went home and did a little extra digging themselves. Thanks for spreading the word, as per always, Joey.

[@lolly5453]

Bet “fish boy” wishes he’d put a little bit more thought into his decision before buying and dumping that dead fish - was feeling so smug and clever til confronted with the facts, which he couldn’t even deny, and at that moment probably felt even more stupid than he looked leaving that salmon on joeys table and running away. Handled perfectly, Joey 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@yuhmin5365]

I think the gentleman is calm, honest and respectful. I hope he will watch this video and rethink he choices 💕💕

[@veganworldrising9972]

I'm drinking Bai coconut juice while watching this. So much healthier and tastier than stolen cow milk.

[@stephenscannell3299]

Fish boy said he doesn't feel like anyone should tell you what to eat, he's only sitting there with a sign, is fishboy going to say the same to the restaurants with posters on the windows? 😂

[@chrismcgowan5180]

Joey, I think the point he was trying to make was that B12 cames from animals. You should have said B12 occurs in the soil thats where our ancestors got it from.

[@dragonskylords9032]

B12 doesn't come from animals. It's found in the same plant foods as other B vitamins like lentils & dark leafy greens. There's no "separate" B vitamins, which is why the group is called B complex.

[@randomdude3646]

Joey was implying in factory farms, the water and food sources are "sterilized" so there is no natural B12. It has to be supplemented... Remember B12 is produced by bacteria.

[@chrismcgowan5180]

@@randomdude3646 totally agree both were not on the same page. This guy was 'trying' to make the point that a vegan diet is incomplete as vegans have to supplement B12. He thought it was impossible for a human to be a vegan in the past when there were no supplements. Setting him straight on that point would have made the convo easier

[@plantsforlife1120]

Joey is very aware of that. He just used another point for the argument and I am sure he doesn’t always construct his arguments perfectly. Nonetheless, he is an exceptional activist!

[@randomdude3646]

@@chrismcgowan5180 okay. he should realize the same point could be made against omnivores who only get their meat from factories.

[@babianna5609]

9:35 to the right. watch that guy turn back to check the girl out.

[@xenomorph7299]

He's no too intelligent that guy. 50 years old with the hat backwards and skater clothes. Nothing wrong with skaters but this guy just never grew up. Nice little earing he has too. Man child they're called. Very likely stuck at a dead end job too. Amazing what you can tell about MOST people just but their demeanor and clothing.

[@josalt3190]

thought u were talking about the vegan. Its like a sequel to dinner for schmucks. lyuyulz

[@goddsontour]

Good to see you always engaging with younger people. Great work Joey.

[@SixStringSteve]

You handled that dweeb brilliantly. Eye of the tiger, Joey.

[@BlindVeganRescue]

First dude is gonna think about this convo for weeks or months. Wheels are turning. GREAT advocacy buddy!

[@koshgam]

thx Joey lots of love mate !

[@AvashMonajemi]

lots of disgusting vegan selfish behavior that's what I learned

[@koshgam]

@@AvashMonajemi what exactly is selfish about choosing not to harm animals when you don't need to eat them?

[@Atom4James]

The masses are deceived into believing we have to consume animals to survive, excuses of vitamins, protein and saturated fat etc. Fish Boy didn’t have an answer for it and soon retreated. It’s good to see people actually understanding what Joey is trying to explain to them. Keep up the great work.

[@charliemorrison8168]

I know meateaters that are B12 deficient. Meateaters and vegans both can be B12 deficient. Same thing in any other nutrient.

[@dragonskylords9032]

I've yet to meet anyone actually B12 deficient, especially vegans who eat a good WFPB with lots of leafy greens & lentils. I think it is a supplement racket that uses fear to target vegans.

[@ONeill01]

@@dragonskylords9032 Your body stores B12, you would not know if you have deficiency until your stores are depleted, and as we age our absorption of B12 decreases. I know my gf's father takes a B12 supplemented as he was getting B12 deficient as a meat eater

[@jamesg3105]

Anecdote, but I was B12 deficient before going vegan. Calorie count was fine, thought I was eating balanced. Think a bit of self education via going vegan and getting a variery of wholefoods in helped a lot. Replaced animal products with tons more variety of good foods. I take a multivit sometimes if I haven't eaten well in the day, but I obviously needed it as a non-vegan too. Probably moreso.

[@dragonskylords9032]

@@ONeill01 B12 deficient according to what test? There's no valid test to detect such a thing. The "symptoms" could indicate 30 different illnesses. And I'm sure my "stores" are depleted never taking a supplement and vegan since mid-1990s, and eat no "fortified" food either.

[@dragonskylords9032]

@@jamesg3105 Deficient according to what? Those tests are total misdiagnoses. You're taking toxic multivitamins made of chemicals your body can't absorb. Just eat plenty of lentils and dark leafy greens, loaded with B complex.