John Baker - How Flavours Work - Part 1 | Carp, Barbel, Chub

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John talks about the composition of flavours used for fish bait

[@frankwarwick8068]

Hey JB I was looking for part 2. really nice explanation for your reasons for doing what you do and using what you do! Smashing my old mate. I’m looking forward to seeing your Peach flavour ;)) Top man

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Cheers Franky! Really enjoying this, part two out on Friday - JB

[@js543]

Nuff said

[@jerryoreganthemangrove7440]

Wow John absolutely brilliant advice as normal especially about the pop ups and the old flavours being sold it so hard for normal anglers to know such things top marks for putting it out there john cant wait for part 2 .

[@danielgreen4621]

Thanks John your a pleasure to listen to

[@callumwilliams4578]

Thinking about trying to make my own hookbaits and your advice has been hands down the most informative. Was going to try and use your plum and bell ringer flavours soon . Thank you. Callum.

[@dimitarkolev8341]

Very well explained, why and why. Thank you for this lesson!

[@michaellyons1821]

Great relevant content again, knowledge is power! Thank you

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks for the feedback, part 2 coming soon

[@js543]

So good to escape at this time of year and watch some thought provoking content like this.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks!

[@lutherlee3779]

Thank you for making these clips. 👍🏻

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

thanks for watching

[@stevenreed7948]

Great series of videos John. Keep them coming! I am still using your baits on the Loddon and, although the fishing is pretty hard these days, there are still some special fish worth chasing. Picked up quite a few 'edges' from these clips that I will be putting to good use.

[@geriatriccarper2842]

Always interesting and thought provoking, thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks!

[@MarkWatsonCarpCast]

Great info there John, keep these clips coming!

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks! More on the way...

[@rolandwood1820]

Great insight John, and thanks for the e-mails about your old 'Pukka Salmon' flavour a few weeks ago. Looking forward to more of these!. Cheers, Roland

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks Roland!

[@nickgoode8579]

Glad to see you back! First ever Baits I made when I was 15 where one of your base mixes and your plum flavour. Seem to recall you where not too well not too long back. Glad to see you looking well.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks for your kind words, I’m fighting fit now, plenty more videos to come!

[@garypopham468]

Top work again JB, loving my JB flavours..! Really top quality gear 🐟👌

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks Gary!

[@robertoflack965]

So much informed knowledge in under 13 minutes, brilliant. Loving the clips but I’m sure extended in depth versions would go down a storm too. Keep them coming...

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Crammed a lot into this one for sure! I could go 10x deeper into this subject but it would start to get very technical, not sure how interested people would be? Thanks for the comment

[@heythere911]

Thanks for this one john I found it really interesting...I for one would be interested in a more in depth view about flavors

[@leeellis1254]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 there would be huge interest, Carp angler chronicles podcast has massive downloads from technical bait podcasts. 😊

[@fhysherman]

Great eye opener and well explained, thanks John. With that information it looks like I know where to get quality bait ingredients from. Thank you

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Sample size flavours are coming soon, keep an eye out!

[@raymondwelton3904]

Thank you for sharing your vast expertise on Flavour I first came across your name in Carp Fever issue I Carp fishing is like a jigsaw the more bits you can fit together the easer it becomes but in 40 years I have not completed the puzzle and still learning !!

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

neither have I

[@VWJourneymananglingadventures]

Brilliant information 👍🏻

[@tommybrison6546]

Brilliant content very refreshing

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks for watching

[@TheTricky66]

Fantastic, brilliant video 👏👏👏👏 Really enjoying learning from you.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

I'm bursting with video ideas, thanks for watching!

[@TheTricky66]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 that's great. You've got my juices flowing. I'm a supervisor making flavours for human food an drinks.. A lot of ice cream products so I can relate to your discussions 👍

[@peterfuller2215]

Thanks for that information John on pop ups ,I been weary using cork ball popups but i started making cork ball popups with my own mix now .l made some hard hookers but put to much crayfish powder in they become Wafters . The cork balls popups come out fine tested them in glass water .keep to cork ball popups from now on

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

I always user a cork ball in my hookbaits, thanks for watching

[@secretsquirrelcarping159]

very informative video ...

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

🙏

[@leeellis1254]

Brilliant again

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Thanks Lee!

[@benperry5125]

Fantastic advice John. My fav flavours are Rod Hutchinson Monster Crab and Solar Squid and Octopus Koi rearer. Have been making my own baits for over 20 years now, think I’ll be giving your products a go. Would love to get your advice on the sort of boillie I’m looking to make.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Hi Ben, please email me at [e-mail] I'd be happy to help you all I can

[@GaryChapmanUKGardening]

another great video John. Them seems to be a real buzz about some thing called dmpt at the moment could you please do a video on your thoughts on it and how to use it please. Many thanks

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

I’ll cover some of these fashionable new baits in an upcoming video, thanks - John

[@piepkwiep4312]

10:40 Ultraspice ethylalcohol was the best in winter.

[@davidryley4162]

We need more please John

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

stay tuned!

[@davidryley4162]

Hi John. Dropping the Bounty flavour, should put you on the naughty step. It was wonderful

[@garylee1207]

Great thinking angler, very under rated in the 80’s, but had some of the best flavours around, thankfully many people were using everything but.

[@trevorpritchard9715]

John.....is is truly fascinating and very helpful indeed! Question about pop ups though. Given that once a pop up has entered a carp’s mouth and carp has been hooked (hopefully) surely in that relatively short moment of time a carp will not be getting all ‘the notes’ of the flavour?

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Carp are able to evaluate the bait before it even enters their mouths, they have taste receptors all around their heads and even on their bodies. Their sense of smell is 1000s of times better than ours, and given the assumption that taste is linked to smell we can confidently assume that they’re able to detect all of the notes of the flavour, even if for a short amount of time when inside the mouth. Also using a slightly longer hair rig as I discuss in my previous video will allow the bait to be taken further into the mouth

[@greenfingers9471]

Brilliant info John, im looking for something to add to hemp to give me a little edge when Tench fishing, what would you recommend ?

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

That’s easy, I’ve got the perfect thing, it’s called particle punch which has complex sugars, enhancers and maple flavours. Ideal for adding to the water that you soak and cook the hemp in, have a look at the additives section on my website. Cheers John

[@SPINNING_Pro]

Sir amezing videos I'm trying to make my own boilies ent is really helpful your videos.... I won't to ask is your company post to Greece I'm interested in your products???.... Cilp up the great job

[@jahwar1975]

Years ago a friend put me on to a chub attractor u used to sell , very successful when used to flavour meat , haven't seen or heard of it for long time now , wondered if it was still available?

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

You can make it by blending 50/50 ala salar flavour and roast chicken flavour, that was more or less the recipe. It's very very good!

[@antrog1895]

9:25 👍

[@steveow40]

Hi John, regarding you blog referring to how much flavour to use relevant to the size of egg, would be useful to have the ideal max and min level of flavour per a given ml of raw egg printed on your bottles of flavour. It would be so simple then to crack any desired quantity of eggs into a measuring jug and then add the required ml of flavour per ml of egg. This makes more sense than using the flavour x weight of base currently on the bottles. Or if you don’t want to do that then how about putting a PDF on you website that lists recommended ml of flavour X ml of liquid Egg for all of you flavours? Thanks

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Hi Steve, I appreciate your comments but there are too many factors that would determine flavour levels such as the type of base mix, whether its hookbaits, freebies or paste and how long each average session is. Also the regularity with which you may be fishing the same venue. All this has a bearing on the recipe of flavour levels so it would be very difficult to create a pdf table that suits all flavours and base mixes.

[@stephenmaybank3703]

hi john watched you video with great interest i like your flavors and recipes but i fish for carp only in winter so spring summer and into october i fish for catfish would you happen to know a good recipe and bearing in mind i will be looking at a min of 30mm size pellet shape or boilie thank you

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Bait size is irrelevant, you can make these by hand. I suggest you try my bio shelfish to 6 eggs put 20ml of salmon oil, 3 ml of ala salar, and 1 ml of crab and 10ml of shrimp. I know this recipe has caught many monster catfish in the UK. Good luck

[@carpermanluke876]

Just come across this channel and not considered making my own before really but you're changing my mind. Are you going to make a video on making normal boilies ie free offerings as opposed to pop ups? Or maybe hook bait boilies? 👀 Cheers great videos thank you for making them I've liked and subbed 👍

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Hi there, definitely give it a go, fresh is always best! I have a video on my channel about making Hookbaits, I’m going to do another more hands on soon. Perhaps about free offerings, watch this space

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Making your own bait is mega, but I have 2 mild warnings! 1. It's time consuming to do, so could mean less fishing time. 2. It's like going down the rabbit hole! That said, it's a significant confidence boost knowing your bait is the best on the lake, and catching on it is very rewarding.

[@I-am-Groot-1]

Brilliant again JB. I learn from every video. I’ve been watching some of the old flavours on eBay go for crazy money, I’ve alway wondered if they were usable. One question though, I recently smelt a bottle of RH brown glass bottle mulberry flavour, this is decades old and it smelt amazing, would you say this still wasn’t usable? Thanks for any feedback. 👍

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

It might still have the top notes in tact, as I mention in the video but the taste would be foul. The chemical composition will have changed and likely become oxidised and useless

[@I-am-Groot-1]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 🤓👍👌🏽

[@hydroman114]

Hi John I really look forward to these videos from you . Any chance for us hard of hearing to put the sound up on recording kind regards mark

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Hi, thanks for the comment. Have just bought a proper microphone so will be playing around with it for next time

[@hydroman114]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 thank you

[@spacedhopper]

JB when’s the pick and mix coming back!!!

[@stephenhollinrake8223]

I used to get the amnio liver one ! Cant find it anymore!! It certainly worked for barbel! But dont spill in the kitchen it won't end well.....

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

It’s on the website under additives!

[@stephenhollinrake8223]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 cheers local shops aren't stocked like they used to more towards commercials up here in lancs ! Nice to know I can get it still! Is there any better flavours or additives for barbel in your opinion! I've done well with krill in summer! Also wondering if any particular flavour for maggots for barbel in winter!! Cheers 👍

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

@@stephenhollinrake8223 as far as flavours for barbel is concerned you can’t get much better than frost and flood and that can be use directly on maggots. But my advice will be to use particle punch as that has a lot in common with frost and flood plus a few extra goodies!

[@stephenhollinrake8223]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 thanks for the advice! 👍

[@danielgreen4621]

Hi John you mention that flavours in plastic bottles after a while become toxic. I have to use a lot of plastic baits because of crayfish. Would the flavours also become toxic if left once they are used on plastic baits. If so how often should I be changing or throwing away plastic baits that have had flavours put on them. Regards Daniel

[@nicholasuppington7046]

Great video. Can you bring a Bun spice flavour out 🤞

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Lots of people have asked me that, I’m not discounting it... got a few more flavours coming out next month

[@nicholasuppington7046]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 thanks, a flavour I always wanted to try. Keep the the videos coming best on uTube 👍

[@jinzanit]

Being in the EU, I was interested to hear about the FEMA number issue. Is it safe to assume that I will still be able to buy your flavours and get them shipped to Italy? I understand the separate transport issues involved at the moment with anything arriving from the UK, but it would be good to know I'll still be able to use your highly effective flavours. Keep the videos coming John, they are a welcome relief from the deluge of carp related cobblers that abounds.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Great comment! That’s made me laugh!! Don’t worry about flavours they can all be sent to the EU because they’re classes as Lures, cheers! John

[@jinzanit]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 Great news, thanks John.

[@alencosic3765]

Great video mr. Baker, and you're wrong about just one thing: Some of us want to hear about technical stuff :)

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Could go much more technical 💁‍♂️

[@alencosic3765]

@@johnbakerbaits9108 It would be greatly appreciated sir. I like to think that I know quite a bit about nutritional side of baits but I must admit that I'm pretty weak when it comes to flavors. Don't get me wrong, the basics are there but I would like to know a whole lot more. Did some testing on my own last year with enzymes and my conclusion was that food signal released with some of them is far more important (effective) than any of flavors I tried. I'm sure that's not the whole story, that's why I'm grateful for this kind of info

[@alsoknOwnAs4]

I read there was glass spheres in some Nash key pop ups aswell . This has concerned me. But Mega info thanks

[@alsoknOwnAs4]

@Dave Svendsson agreed I've stopped using them and also asked them directly and had no response so ditched using their baits.

[@alsoknOwnAs4]

@Dave Svendssondynamite baits mostly. They have been more than alright for me past couple years so. And sticky baits blood worm

[@alsoknOwnAs4]

@Dave Svendsson River Thames and the one and 2 resis

[@alsoknOwnAs4]

@Dave Svendsson been using the blood worm for years and years.

[@paulmacefield6134]

Hi john is buttringer and plum flavours still available

[@wakofish]

They are, link in the description of the video to the website

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Yep, they’re on the website stil!

[@MD-gc4xq]

Can you smell smells in water? I’m not convinced, taste maybe! But there again taste is reliant on smell, so does it really work? I personally think it’s all commercial hype

[@techcarp]

Sound so low but great vid.

[@TheKreshica95]

top3 flavours every boilie maker has to have?

[@leeellis1254]

John's plum is highly rated, not sponsored at all by the way For me Scopex, pineapple and nbutyric, maple cream

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Difficult to say, depending on the conditions and time of year I might pick a number of different flavours - always ensuring that the flavour is harmonised with the base mix I'm using. Will be doing in depth videos specifically on base mix's soon. I love Plum, Ala Salar and TM1 though....

[@TheBoer1987]

i always throw my popups away in my home trace can

[@scientificbaits]

100% accordance, old flavours are no good they will not attract like the original and chemically they are nothing like. This is one of the biggest bullshit things in the modern scene.

[@johnbakerbaits9108]

Time for the truth to be spread

[@andrewtate8303]

Old flavours still work regardless of age so that bollocks !

[@richardmaude2584]

I look forward to your video ‘Expired bait flavours and how to use them’ 👍🏻