John Brzenk VS Arsen Liliev - The 6 rounds in one Video - (March 13th 2010 - Istanbul, Turkey)

[@tomojulitaiga]

You know when a champ is real when he doesn't complain even when he knows the opponent is cheatting and the judges aren't doing their job properly. Must respect for the living legend Brzenk.

[@BIGJOHNTON80]

tomojulitaiga He is a class act! Great in wins and losing... truly a WORLD CHAMP!

[@powerboon2k]

+pabnaful his starts are legit its the elbow off the back of the pad which is not legal. It doesn't take away how unbelievably amazing he is. I mean no one flashes john like that... he didn't complain he just said fair play. I do believe that if arsen wasn't allowed to get away with elbow fouling every time he got into a bad position that john would have won this 4 2. Also john was quite injured going into this and it got worse in the match.

[@PBxFuture]

Thomas Francis his starts are legit? Check the slowmo on the first one or play the video on 0.25x speed

[@ernst7704]

Nicely said

[@babispapoulidis957]

Hahaha haha you are a pathetic blind supporter of Jhon and you. Try to back him up up even though he loses fair and straight

[@yoriskutt]

Arsen's elbow fouling and false starts are incredible. John is a good sport for knowing that being defeated through cheating is still a loss.

[@ТамерланИрон-н7о]

??? 😀

[@johankaruyan5536]

What ?

[@Aex89]

Keep making excuses😂

[@ShiveringKnight]

@@Aex89 Keep making excuses? the match is over and done with... EONS ago... and if you are watching these replays you must be retarded if u think Arsen isnt false starting(moving before go) and elbow fouling..

[@dileepkumardillu5586]

U are messing with a goat ♑ ​@@Aex89

[@thureintun1687]

All arm wrestlers ever: start at the "Go!" Arsen Liliev: start at "Ready"

[@taylorhead9842]

0:45 what a badass classic moment where John tries and gets stone walled both shaking their heads in acknowledgment. Then he takes another try powering through, then Arsen, "Yeah you got me that time"

[@armwrestlingcdo4924]

New rule, start pulling at “Ready” 😂

[@scottwarren4998]

It looks like arsen lets both his feet up in the air right after the Go-signal. That's cheating since liliev's opponent must carry all of liliev's wieght.

[@ArmoredG]

that's why its a better reffing when its just close hands and then GO, never say Ready

[@MR-cc7zl]

John's classiness means of course he's going to congratulate Arsen for the win, but the no-look he gives says "you and I both know that was BS". 😂

[@AApV]

reason John Brzenk is upset is Arsen constant false starting which he is gettin away with since match is on russian soil... Arsen Liliev fasle starts nearly every match.. notice how refere breaths in to say go and Arsen is already going.. also in match with Zelimhan Zankharov.. there it is absolutely obvious..

[@havocryn-0]

Your right Arsen pulls a split second before the reff says pull, every damn time!

[@big-R]

So you're saying he can predict Go every time perfectly? No, it is a video sound delay...

[@yidy1]

Arsen is False starting all the time! 1:03 0:40 Check and you'll see.

[@suziecakes8676]

You can start before GO, though.

[@Bozkurt-si9cz]

7Ahilles lol turkey is a secular state and why would they care about russia?

[@cbsmitty7281]

Guy was quick, but Old Johnny was was like Whoa young man, let me pull you over here and let's talk about it some more. 😂 😂

[@himanshuchaudhary1857]

@Justin Paul fuck off both one

[@nvmffs]

What do you mean old? He was 44 here

[@Losstillmatic]

That sounds so gay

[@genos1969]

u think hes quick? yea hes quick at false start thats wat it is.

[@vietnhatnguyen1798]

@@nvmffs 45

[@danielmartin2331]

Old video but wow, Arsen was going before the ref even said "ready" lol. He may have set a record for how early of a false start he did on every round. Great showing of defense from John nonetheless!

[@f4llenhite955]

sound is delayed

[@cratos900]

For Experts in a comment section... Engin himself said that Video had a sound delay and it seems like Arsen is false starting every time. It is was shot more than 13 years ago guys chill :D

[@ioannisdiam]

He is the ref what is he gonna say?

[@cratos900]

@@ioannisdiam He is the biggest fan of John there is. Stop being dumb and piece together simple information that if there would be an early starts he would have called them..

[@prashantsinghsisodia6709]

​@cratos900 at 1:28 in 0.25x , watch it without sound , definitely a false start . Engin is a big fan John, but he is a great friend of arsen too . He didn't want to help Arsen but would want to save himself from criticism.

[@cratos900]

@@prashantsinghsisodia6709 If you newwd 0.25 speed than it sure acceptable. If you are a puller you will know that one goes on the perceived notion of G letter notion, Its a skill itself.

[@prashantsinghsisodia6709]

@cratos900 Ref said go not gggggggggo. You are right it takes skill to cheat , I wish refs were skilled enough to catch it .

[@dawgtuff]

johns style is true form of strength as for arsen hes all false starts and elbow fouls

[@Aasmraudio]

Old is gold....!!! new is shit ..no talent

[@kevlarunderwear22]

agreed. I don't even like watching him. cheatin foulin BS.

[@armfighterjourney9911]

Dawg Tuff no, arsen isn't false start, I dont see any cheating on him, he just have more explosive than john , he so fast, thats why john was hard to control his arm. but respect for john brzenk, legend.

[@dawgtuff]

Arsens definitly a beast im jst sad john got reckd like this

[@lelek1746]

You guys are really funny talking about Liliev's cheating starts...This is just his way of pulling, his own move...Refeeres are there to judge, let them do their job, and stop blame Arsen for everything with no reason.

[@harshitnirwan4651]

What a carp this match is. Not expected this thing from Engin at all. Look how Arsen is doing early start in every round.

[@f4llenhite955]

engin said sound is delayed on this video

[@kanaka1893]

Wow, the russian guy is going even before the referee says go. No wonder he has an advantage. Why aren't they calling that.

[@yidy1]

Exactly! Arsen is False starting all the time! 1:03 0:40 Check and you'll see.

[@jhettbrewin322]

I've seen this in other videos and it could be the audio out of sync or he's just cheating but that was a no pin in the 2nd round

[@y37chung]

@@jhettbrewin322 You are stupid are you? What does this has to do with audio out of sync? You can visually see Arsen's arm moving before the ref hand let go.

[@pallin2198]

@@y37chung lol good point

[@scottwarren4998]

It looks like arsen lets both his feet up in the air right after the Go-signal. That's cheating since liliev's opponent must carry all of liliev's wieght.

[@Watcher-70]

john shows at 0:35 that he is vastly superior. nicely done John!

[@NPC-fg6up]

vastly superior? he lost 😅

[@DigitalRemake]

bro lost

[@kevlarunderwear22]

agreed. the worst cheat ever. and john didn't even lose the 3rd match, refs blew that.

[@scottwarren4998]

It looks like arsen lets both his feet up in the air right after the Go-signal. That's cheating since liliev's opponent must carry all of liliev's wieght.

[@evgeniy-m2e]

Не Лилиев стартует на команду судьи, а судья дает команду когда Лилиев стартует.

[@MortalKombat3Supercombo]

++ в иных обстоятельствах Джон бы его порвал

[@DevonsWorstNightmare]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@armdivan_grandmaster]

на реди захват уже возле подушки, на гоу Джон начинает тащить выбитую кисть обратно

[@wasdx-_9258]

Звук отстает, алло.

[@SherryAi]

The referee is Engin?

[@avocadobutmeksicianavokado8204]

Yes

[@ШколаФокусов-х7о]

​@@avocadobutmeksicianavokado8204omg. His natural hair colour isn't gray?

[@bigboypalao]

​@@ШколаФокусов-х7оyes. And also he was younger in this video that's why he still has a black hair.

[@krmaklija]

For all of you saying that Arsen is starting early, no, he is not. There is a sound delay, just watch and listen at 01:05 when Arsen is hitting the table, if you dont see/hear it just watch at 0.5 speed. The sound is late.

[@prashantsinghsisodia6709]

Watch in 0.25x at 1:28 without sound , he was false starting .

[@FutureAbe]

2:13 is an incredibly false start. John had to catch him before the ref saying Go

[@ПашокТВ]

Omg its so hard to see im so bad in this life :((((

[@aking89]

If John was on the same cycle, no one would beat him.

[@marcosloaiza280]

liliev always started earlier

[@Armwrestlingphilosopher]

What a match regardless of fouls, beautiful demonstration of strength and gamesmanship

[@officialubihaxor1556]

These referees are so blind...

[@dogukankarahan6953]

Engin Terzi has more world champion award than your age kid.

[@devanmaingot7654]

No, theyre cheating.

[@testudinebobby8532]

@@devanmaingot7654 nope. If youre not an armwrestler yourself, do not speak. This is how the tournaments work

[@devanmaingot7654]

@@testudinebobby8532 no it isn't, and you're not one to talk

[@vaderetro264]

@@dogukankarahan6953 Yes, but he sucked in the first round, massive early start from Liliev.

[@tonygajate5780]

at .48 the rubber meets the road where they both acknowledge each other that they are ready to floor it for victory, at .55 John flattens Arsen, brutal. Arsen is a monster so for Brzenk to have that kind of horsepower to drop him is insane.

[@853512KISS]

Liliev is the biggest arm wrestler cheater ever seen .......................!!!!

[@gabrielc6252]

+853512KISS no, check Michael Todd

[@MegaTUHAU]

Yes..arsen big cheater.. his face must be thick ..think he beat john with all his false start...

[@jsss1489]

@Rob K. Yeah!!!absolute cheater!!!!

[@emmanuelmercer2595]

You're right

[@stoneeh]

F***ed John good, didn't he? :)

[@giulianation]

No way, Liliev started before the referee say "ready, go!"

[@relaxerization]

The sound is late.

[@sportsman1990AL]

Стиль борьбы у него отличный. Но его чудовищно быстрый старт объясняется просто фальстартом.

[@Csut555]

Love the way John nods at Arsen at 3:42 saying "have a go then" and proceeds to fucking bury him.

[@idotalktomyself_isometimes9054]

+headcaseman ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@vladislavnadtochiy2554]

Брзенк такой достойный! Настоящий чемпион! Результат неважен! Важно достоинство чемпиона! А Арсен - супер!

[@SupersonicFlyTV]

check out at 3:06, Arsen goes and than you hear go. Fall start after fall start

[@brentlionakaboldchamp]

Brzenk was injured when he went against Voevoda, and they only had one round. No one wins every time. Check out all of his matches. He mostly holds some of the strongest guys easily.

[@conantrumparian6826]

John has since admitted that vevoda was toying with him in a practice pull around that same time. John said he was helpless and could do nothing against alexey. I’m a huge John fan, but man said it himself

[@DashDrones]

Engin's the Ref!

[@dingdong274]

0:04 HASIKTIR LAN XD XD

[@BarlasSk]

:D

[@ilkandivarc9110]

AHAHDKLSJWFHAHD

[@Eren-hm8wf]

Arsen Liliev farkı:D

[@jjjjjjjjjhhy]

@@Eren-hm8wf hakem daha start i vermeden baslarsan, sende herkesi yenersin knk

[@saulramirezkb5855]

Wow man, i can watch these 2 arm wrestle all day. They are both awesome

[@LeahRobb]

John respects the strength of his opponent and graciously accepts defeat knowing it will look different next time. 😉

[@Billythebassist]

Brzenk = Beast

[@nvmffs]

Uhm.. he lost you know

[@princeyoshiro2749]

@@nvmffs He cheat every match lol

[@redhenryrepeater]

the look of shock on all the referees' faces at the beginning is priceless :D

[@vaderetro264]

Engin Terzi didn't feel Liliev super false start, incredible.

[@clash5j]

Engin is one of the greatest armwrestlers ever, but a piss poor ref. Omg. I can't begin to count the number of things Liliev was allowed to get away with here

[@FutureAbe]

This is so completely backwards. If you watch the match back, but this time you imagine that the rules are that Arsen can go whenever he wants, and the ref has to say 'Go!' as soon as he notices Arsen starts, it would make sense. Think there was one round there where he actually started on time, and he ended up elbow fouling, giving John the win.

[@alexr1301]

This dude cheated and went early every time

[@godabhi8599]

Are we gonna ignore Engin at the back reefing this man has done every in Armwrestling

[@devidia]

the slowmo of the first match showed a clear false start by liliev, and there are 2 more clear false starts from liliev, combined with massive elbow fouls, this was a clear clear win for brzenk...

[@Jmckinno100]

Brzenk did an excellent job to even win any of these matches. He was starting from a significant disadvantage every single time with the early starts. I defy any single person watching this video to look at each of these starts and tell me Liliev isn't moving before the refs let their hands off and officially start the match.

[@ВладимирВоднев-и6р]

Арсен всегда с фольстарта начинал бороться))

[@sanjarsaftarov4358]

+++

[@engr.h.mbasirijaz1249]

John was injured....... He had his shoulder issues & pain in 2010 and he had to go through surgery later in 2011.

[@peeekar]

when im sad after watching this video, i go to watch how Cyplenkov killed Arsen ;)

[@anuragrajashekar68]

Arsen killed denis in 2012

[@peeekar]

@@anuragrajashekar68 Arsen killed Denis after Denis had war with Pushkar, I know exactly which event you are referring to.

[@scottwarren4998]

It looks like arsen lets both his feet up in the air right after the Go-signal. That's cheating since liliev's opponent must carry all of liliev's wieght.

[@peeekar]

@@scottwarren4998 if he does that he would actually loose because you are weaker without using ground in your advantage. Thats why some pullers like Richard Lupkes propose to workout legs as well to become stronger in armrestling

[@scottwarren4998]

@@peeekar watch what liliev does, his feet are like on the other side of the table, and in the air. Would you say that's cheating? Anyways liliev is a fkin beast who is the only to ever beat prime cyplenkov.

[@maverick-gp6mg]

john the GOAT. dont piss off brznk...the comeback is bloody real

[@Highinsight7]

This was ONE heck of a match off... (Brzenk never has to work that hard...) plus... Liliev is MUCH younger... and has that advantage... I wounder if he'll still be wrestling the top dogs when he's Brzenk age...??? HOPE so! All that said... This video was a lot of fun to watch... HATS OFF to both guys!

[@rayray99100]

I used to like Pro Wrestling; but found out later, that is was a fake...... These guys are impressive, though.

[@Highinsight7]

IsItHardToBeStupid? It's kind of obvious... even to me... John... is ONE amazing dude!!!

[@brentlionakaboldchamp]

+raymond ferland Lol, it's not fake.

[@isithardtobestupid7568]

brentlion it is scripted not fake.

[@brentlionakaboldchamp]

IsItHardToBeStupid? Its not scripted.

[@joeypierantonis7576]

Calmon Jahn... That's must be Stalingrad area, it gets really cold there!

[@SwinginMyHatchet]

Watch the starts in 0.25 speed lol Arson cheats almost EVERY time 😂 It’s always funny to see Americans get unfair treatment in foreign events like this 🤷🏼‍♂️ Handicapped and still won 2 matches though lol

[@f23r23]

In the first round, Engin's so shocked his idol lost that he refuses to declare the winner.

[@cypress0ne]

Yeah.. Arsen getting such a jump every single time takes a toll after awhile.. but Brzenk just isn't the type to bitch or complain. So yeah.... who knows, it is what it is.

[@ВикторРассыльных]

Может быть звук отстает от картинки но такое ощущение что Арсен начинал давить до "GO"

[@ДенисГрин-з3г]

Джон какой то универсальный солдат) красавчик просто

[@kaganturktur]

00:03 that explosion oh my gosh... You can here Turkish people in the background screaming HOLY F*** WHAT THE F*** WAS THAT MAN! And the referee Engin Terzi's look to John Brzenks face tells a story alone...

[@turxuaz2789]

Vallaha engin hocam öyle bi bakti ki, vay garibim der gibi

[@kaganturktur]

@@turxuaz2789 harbiden öyle bi şaşırdı ki o bakış efsane ya

[@rodri11tube]

1:14 they gave that round to Liliev. But, Larratt do that all the time, and they call to the straps.

[@yatinsharma5611]

Engin is the referee??

[@Bennjohnb15]

Under the table should be a foul...

[@ConstantChinner]

Yes, I agree.

[@dchiuppi91]

.... arsen false started every single round. How did i miss this

[@21Halfmexi]

where the heck was they doing this at? A 1980's porn set?

[@ConstantChinner]

Haha! Good one bro.

[@dampdigits]

Engin look at engin 😂❤

[@sukhdevkumar2754]

John brzenk is my hero.

[@dennis198007]

John was the best ever. He didn't sit around and wait for challengers, he too the fight to them....anyone anywhere. I would like to see Devon do the same.

[@pepetorres8827]

Brzenk at this match is almost in retirement. Imposible to compare the new young guy, he is strong... just that. Brzenk won many titles against real monster bigget than him.... many times.... So this was good challenge for the guy. Nthing to probe.

[@muhammadputera6593]

No he isn't lol. He's still pulling 12 years later

[@dummy9517]

@@muhammadputera6593 barely at professional level. Nothing compared to his own standard

[@arveespelien1116]

So this is prime John😁

[@tomixparker3126]

Nope

[@tomasemilio]

THERE IS A SOUND DELAY EVERYONE

[@DriftmanX]

Only question is if Arsen’s gains were LOYAL OR NOT!?!?

[@sunnydee7745]

Bro when will you ever see an armwrestler like John ? Someone who doesn't use their bodies for advantages. I swear brute Force man

[@TECHNOPEDIAofficial]

John is legend he didn't even complaint even he lose by some cheater such a great person ..

[@ThaVarTaz]

The false starts is the only reason liliev even gets that far down the pad with johns arm, its pretty obvious....

[@TakenGTs]

Tha VartaZ exactly

[@peeekar]

@BugattianVeyronian yea, I cant wait to see it :D What is with Bagent and Larrat? Will they appear there?

[@StrangeStories12]

I don't think it should be allowed to hang from your opponent's arm under the table lol

[@shashankpandey8346]

You never see 3 legends on an armwrestling table, here you got it. JOHN X ARSEN X ENGIN

[@piro4351]

John is better..all arsen does is rush hin then ut his entire weight o nthat arm lol...wack

[@GcodePS3XBOX360]

in the last round you can see the russian guy using his leg against the table to pull harder and hanging from his arm

[@KingsnazurClick]

+GcodePS3XBOX360 lol man everyone does that, devon larratt does that too, it's completely fair

[@dqreps]

+Johan Emil Finsson is fair in the rules. But u never see John go what that far. John is about as straight up fair as you can get in this game. some will win at any costs, some will win with honor.

[@WorldofArmwrestling]

@Georgian909 I filmed this material and I have been very clear with the fact that I had a problem with my camera which made the audio and video unsynched. It was NOT false starts in all 6 rounds! You can see the proof of that in the clips on World of Armwrestling. / Charlie

[@futdsrs3391]

Джон великолепен! 👍👍

[@leo280597]

You are talking about one of the greatest armwrestlers of all time. Be careful with your words, man. He is actually a really nice, down to earth guy.

[@cholognesi]

Steroids vs Jhon

[@duduwins3477]

Verdade john é narural...

[@autovlad6323]

Джон натурал должен был выйграть стероиды, но почему-то проиграл

[@duduwins3477]

@@autovlad6323 ? N falo essa tua língua kkkkkkkkkk

[@norwicharmwrestling3471]

Who is jhon?

[@altair1260]

he lost kiddo oh and john uses steroids too as if he is natural lmao

[@marshalluiz]

the real champ is he who destroys their opponents with power without cheating

[@TheMightykaz]

:04 I love the look on Engin face. lol Holy shit he actually beat you!

[@Nirsterkur]

The Acronym GOAT was invented for John the GOAT Brzenk.

[@jcyt0511]

arsen is a joke

[@roccoopgaming568]

jcyt0511 lol this guy destroyed denis cplenkov

[@RkZaswmvak]

Michal Bilek Cyplenkovs match with pushkar (before he faced arsen) made him extremely tired and weak thats why he lost. Arsen lost in 1 second every round in the cyplenkov rematch..... arsen liliev is no joke hes very good but compared to cyplenkov HE REALLY IS A JOKE

[@smokey4519]

Berkan Soltay watch arsen's most recent match with cyplenkov

[@mercedesw211classic]

John lost because he was trying to hook him. He could easily beat him with too roll, like he did in the early rounds...

[@tomixparker3126]

He even kept trying to hook him outside the straps which is crazy 😂

[@factman5533]

처음부터 끝까지 아르센 얼리스타트 ㅋㅋㅋ 심판 참 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@ДенисФреско]

Я с вами гласн

[@factman5533]

블젱크가 너무 착해서 ㅋㅋ 저런건 진짜 심판운이 너무 없는거죠 ㅋㅋ

[@김창일-l4w]

나루토 저런 제대로 배우지도 못한 심판때문에 존 블젱크같은 레전드가 저평가받는다는 사실이 너무 화나네요 ㅠ

[@ahmetkara9069]

Engin terzi değilmi o hakem

[@joydeepdeb7940]

Arsen Liliev is #1 amazing

[@bobcooter]

What a match! Breznk level of sportsmanship is so refreshing, true champion.

[@ПетроКрикота-п4б]

Позор Арсену... стартовал до команди

[@phdDangol]

Engin Terzi was young at that time he is looking quite excited in the game too

[@lhpanther]

I HATE these under the table pullers. Their style sucks and should be outlawed.

[@pepperbean243]

Arsen called himself on an elbow foul. Good sportsmanship

[@redreserve1040]

Devon larratt is the best :P

[@delphinus5850]

yeke

[@AMRINDER-123]

Was there vodka under the table ?

[@frankdrebin7949]

Without slips counted, this was 9 ready-go´s because Arsen elbow fouled 4 times. John elbow fouled 0 times. I think fouling in losing position should be a instant loss because Arsen does it so he gets a restart.

[@Mssebb]

Is that engin?🫣

[@BugattianVeyronian]

@peeekar not sure,but i personally think bagent will,dont know with larratt..i cant wait to see who will be the champion for left arm,because i am a left handed too:D besides cyplenkov havent pull with bagent yet,they both were considered as the best lefty in the world..i hope in right arm will be brzenk vs larratt vs voevoda..hope voevoda will return to arm wrestling..

[@chhangte_anp]

Arsen Liliev is allowed to start before READY command...

[@Csut555]

@Shase007 He made 209 for the weigh-in. He was about 215 for the actual match.

[@Ringnesbest]

if the sound cordination is right at 0:24 lilliev is starting before "go" isn't he?