John Deere 3039R Heads up with a Bad Boy 4035H Tractor Deep Comparison!!! Shocking $20k Price Diff

[@justinelrod3924]

I bought a new 4035 bad boy tractor with backhoe attachment.I'm very well pleased with it. I've got almost 300hrs on it and I work it hard. It does really good on slopes and it is very impressive in 4wd with differential lock.

[@kgmowers]

Ty for the comment :)

[@Bill-gz6tm]

I’m looking at buying this tractor. Do you think this was a good deal and purchase?

[@justinelrod3924]

@@Bill-gz6tm for a homeowner it's a good investment if you have work for it to avoid the cost of renting equipment or buying someone else's problem.

[@robertmikolon5710]

This is not meant to be offensive at all but I love just regular people giving reviews and not somebody playing that all out salesman game. I’d buy from you in a heartbeat. Great comparison.

[@kgmowers]

Thank you so much!! I have the manufacturers asking me why I bash the products online, and I simply tell them no bashing just the truth. I’m so tired of someone saying theirs is the best, and all the other ones are junk. It’s not true or they wouldn’t be in business.

[@dougdorrer4622]

JD has electronic fuel injection whereas the BB has mechanical (Less electrical problems)

[@ricksplat3379]

should also mention the front loader is standard skid steer quick attach. if you can put it on a bobcat you can put it on the badboy.

[@dustanyothers4983]

Very happy with our bad boy. One of the few things I would change is the clearance between rear fenders and tires. Not going to try putting chains on rear tires. Everything else very happy to say the least

[@FrankHoward-chicken-man]

Love bad boy Best mower guy in my town knocks yards out with it He cut a crevice hitch in half with one

[@GoldenLegionHoney]

love the bad boy. haul around round bales on pallet forks

[@donaldstrishock3923]

The JD is much more "refined & prettier ", plus it has a mid-mount PTO. The BB is just about "entry-level" but still a very strong unit. If the JD was just 10gs cheeper it would be a better choice.

[@kgmowers]

I agree. I call it fit and finish. I was just shocked when I looked at the numbers. Seeing stuff like this I hope these manufacturers will turn the equipment up a little, expecially on the capabilities. If another company can do it they all can. If I would have bought the 3039 I would just have expected it to lift a round bale being 4x4. I would’ve had to trade it in real quick to get me one that could lift more weight. I know the bad boy mowers have caused the mower companies to lower prices and up build quality.

[@donaldstrishock3923]

@@kgmowers Realy enjoy all your informative Tractor vidios. Have a new "Bad-Boy" dealer just 10 miles away ,just as a Branson dealer 10 miles away for a comparison( they are 4 miles apart). The comparison ( basically same tractor) with the BB's just 5% more cash-ola ( hydro-hydro units) . The Bransons HAVE gear drives in just about ALL sizes as an Option. To be "truefull" just don't like the BB "name" or color scheme & ONLY "hydro option" with just ONE BRAKE pedal. Other than that l am Realy "stearing' to the Branson gear drives & TWO BRAKE PEDALS. Just "need" ( want ) a 25-35hp tractor for the exsistant 21-54hp 4 tractor fleet. If the "price was right" l could be "swayed" to a BB tractor, but don't think it will happen. Best wishes with all your endeavours Sir.

[@kgmowers]

@@donaldstrishock3923 I think they look so much better 😂. But yeah branson and tym have a little edge on the price. I have been hearing a lot of good things on the Yanmar tractors too. One of my friends sells them and claims they are the best out period. All weve had here in our area was John Deere and kubota. Mahindra dealer came in and is selling the fire out of iron, then my sales haven’t been shabby at all on the bad boy. Our area was just needing more competition honestly. I’ve heard of people dropping their compact 14k tractor off and getting a 10k repair bill like it’s nothing. That’s what is starting to change now. I noticed bills starting to go down at these dealers cause there is more competition can’t just charge whatever anymore. It’s helping everyone out here.

[@cavalryscout8720]

Im sold on Bad Boy specs and price.. Id rather hear the difference between a Bad Boy vs Yanmar.. I'm not nearly as concerned about creature comforts as i am about performance vs price

[@kgmowers]

Yanmar isn’t really in our area. It’s mainly just Deere and Kubota.

[@9s7aturn]

super good and informative video! hope to do some of my own soon with my 4035!!

[@evanmeece]

You enjoying it so far?

[@eddygoodwin7089]

I have a John Deere skid steer. The main valve body on the floor needs replaced, they don’t make that part anymore so it’s gonna be 6 grand to replace it with another. They don’t always have parts

[@kgmowers]

@@eddygoodwin7089 oh dang sorry to hear that 🙈

[@jimbomaz]

Great video. I am a Deere guy. Last year I bought a new (2021) 3039R cab and absolutely hated the joystick. First off, it's cable driven and the cable has quite a few bends in it making the movement of the joystick very stiff. It was hard to "finesse" the bucket. It was either in the neutral position or full open. Deere replaced the cables, but that didn't help. In fact, my wife has a bad right shoulder and had a difficult time using the joystick because of the stiffness. We ended up trading it in for a 2038r open station. Thankfully (because of Covid and the lack of inventory), we lost less than $1,000. PS...doesn't TYM build Bad Boy?

[@kgmowers]

Well, technically it’s Kukje, but TYM bought Kukje out. I’m wondering if there are aftermarket joysticks for the buckets I don’t like most of them honestly.

[@dannyboy9254]

I test drove a 3039r for the first time and that's what I notice the joystick very hard to move. That was the only thing I didn't like. I am thinking of trading my 2038r for the 3039r but am still thinking about it

[@christophersmith2507]

Great video. Thank you for this.

[@kgmowers]

Ty for commenting :). I wish I had more side by side like this

[@yardgenie2933]

JD is built for people who value comfort BB is built for people who value performance. I mean basically what I’m understanding everywhere JD was beat is basically performance and had better weather striping in the cab and a nicer seat.

[@kgmowers]

They are both awesome tractors I was shocked at the extreme price difference

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

I sure would like to see some real world lift videos one these tractors. Bags of feed on a pallet. Tractor waits in the bucket. Lift capacity seem to be really fair stretched.

[@kgmowers]

I can’t share pics on this. But if you’ll search k and g mowers lift capacity on fb and scroll down a few to customer pics you’ll see the little 20k tractor loaded with 2 pallets of hay, you’ll see a huge tree truck and stumps, along with buckets full of rocks, round bales etc in the pictures. For me numbers were numbers I wanted to see what 1300 lbs looked like, or 2300lbs in real world applications

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

@@kgmowers I have to check it out wait at the pins is bad it not real world

[@kgmowers]

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[@timothymoore2090]

I love bad boys. Even bought a bad boy from this same dealership but I hate to tell you. Nothing beats a name brand tractor. My grandfather worked for John Deere for 41 years assembling John Deere tractors and he’s had quite a few different brands but for the money John Deere is worth every penny if you can afford one and on top of that they loose little to no value on their tractors compared to yanmar and bad boy and all the other off brand dealers. Same with kubota. I had kubota tractors that when I sold them I lost less then 5% of the value I paid buying it.

[@sneakybohemiancreature2970]

.. I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan I bleed black and gold but I'll root for other AFC North conference teams come playoffs time Well Between all the tractors not just these two and being a first time shopper you know I'm going with the better price and I like Mom and Poppy than screw you where the Sun don't shine corporation Just saying Thank you for the video I couldn't tell you how much I was laughing and when came time to read the comments well Now you know the rest of the story This is Paul Harvey Goodnight God Bless Be Well ...

[@Re-Booter]

A mechanical IDI diesel will always be noisier than a common rail diesel in the JD. But these Kukje engines are VERY reliable. I have a TYm T474 with the 2.3l NA Kukje engine that is 48.3Hp. 463h with no regen ever.

[@kgmowers]

I’m pretty excited we are about to get the 45 and 55hp

[@Windyhillfarm71]

What is the total height for both of them so people will know if it fits in their barn

[@kgmowers]

@@Windyhillfarm71 104.06 inch is what the total height is on the spec sheet, that should be super close on both.

[@roblewis0704]

Hey Kevin, I met you prior to getting the cab tractor and forgot to ask, do the Bad Boy tractors require DEF?

[@kgmowers]

No it only has the regen

[@chadbinette3201]

John Deere R - edition is the deluxe model, and the better comparison would be a John Deere 4 series not the 3 series. But Deere is always the most expensive. Pretty sure it would be about $10,000 -$20,000 more than a comparable Kubota or kioti . A dealer shows bad boys are here and they seem to be really taking off in the last couple years. It's like anything, your paying for a name and kind find just as good a machine, tool, shoe , whatever ext, for less money.n

[@jeffduncan5880]

Does the bad boy have the external 3 point hitch level on the back like the kioti tractors

[@kgmowers]

I don’t think so. I think that’s only a daedong thing. They make kioti, Bobcat, and some other tractors and that’s a feature they do at the plant. I’m sure you can add one aftermarket to any brand

[@decline1129]

Good luck getting parts for that bad boy in 7 years if their partnership ends

[@kgmowers]

That’s easy. As long as tym or branson is still in business we good. They been a dominate tractor builder since the 60s so we should be good :).

[@decline1129]

@@kgmowers how’s that working out for people with Montana or Cabelas tractors? TYM made those tractors too

[@kgmowers]

@@decline1129 Montana is easy. They just go to a branson or tym dealer, cross reference the model they have to the other tractor and bam parts are the same

[@decline1129]

​@@kgmowers Not easy to do for people without a TYM dealer near them. Luckily They should be able to through Branson dealers now too

[@adamstone6123]

My father has a 1952 John Deere A and needed seals for the back axel went to the local Deere dealer and got them on a 70 yr old tractor. 70yrs from now can someone get parts for a Badboy tractor?

[@evanseymour4172]

I own a time machine and traveled to 2093. I bought two rear differential seals to the Bad Boy dealer… turns out the Earth was a crispy wasteland apocalypse and nobody took cash anymore 🤷‍♂️

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

In 70 years, nobody will care because they’ll either drive battery tractors or we will have blown each other up

[@davidjimenez7556]

​@@evanseymour4172Excellent response, Sir 👏👏👏

[@cincinnatiglassllc8186]

I have been shopping currently and I am not seeing anywhere near a 20K difference in price between these two. I would say more like 5-7k. But it is a John Deere. You are going to pay for that name.

[@kgmowers]

I think it depends on the dealership. Pricing vary drastically. Also if it’s financed or cash there is a big difference at some as well.

[@Luism571]

I work for a john Deere dealership and from what I found, just the tractor itself, let's say a 3033R cab tractor (Deere has a 3035D tractor but with no cab configuration so can't make a good comparison) with less loader and bucket, base price is $30k. Adding loader and bucket and with cab configuration, totals out to $50K. Thats not adding factory installed radio and having the EHydro option because they charge you extra just to have the Hydrostatic transmission.

[@braydenlowe2024]

can you please make a overview and test drive video of the Bad Boy Bandit 550 and 750?

[@kgmowers]

They haven’t been released yet 🙈

[@braydenlowe2024]

​@@kgmowers Do you know when they will be released?

[@kgmowers]

@@braydenlowe2024 no not yet they haven’t said anything yet.

[@braydenlowe2024]

​@@kgmowers Hopefully they will be available soon!

[@kc9146]

What you are paying for on the Deere is over 100+ years of proven track record. Nobody will argue the Yanmar is not a bulletproof engine…. The Koo Koo J will have to get some years under its belt to win market share.

[@kgmowers]

True. Kukje has only been building tractors for 55 years. They built John Deere for many years as well. My dream is to get the other dealers to go in on these videos and get like 6 or 7 brands side by side to do comparisons it would make shopping for them soooo much easier.

[@koryanderson2973]

Is the John Deere still available for sale?

[@kgmowers]

It sold pretty fast it was super clean. He never used the loader only mowed with it. Never even used the 3 point

[@scottdonbrosky5968]

You’re comparing a 4 series to a 3 series. Not apples to apples

[@scottdonbrosky5968]

Deere all the way. Also, the 1-4 series are made and assembled in the USA. a few items are made in Mexico and the Yanmar engine is Japan. It is not shipping in and assembled here.

[@kgmowers]

Idk this one has the infamous “assembled in USA” badge on it. I dug a little I found 4 huge assembly plants in China where a big majority of their equipment is made at, some Mexico, Brazil, Germany, and many other countries in the world. I found where one of the harvesters are made here, some other stuff, but a lot of the compacts. Sub compacts, and very hd stuff are all shipped in now. Labor is waay higher quality and much cheaper in other nations of course, so I see this from almost everyone now.

[@kgmowers]

It is a good tractor though. I believe there are a lot worth looking at and comparing just because I believe it’s a lot more expensive to get the green paint and the parts of course.

[@scottdonbrosky5968]

@@kgmowers you need to do more research and see that they are made in USA and assembled in Georgia. Look up tractor tims videos where he visits the factory

[@garrettwilhelm2267]

I am from Illinois is there any dealers coming this way or what kinda deal would do if I cam down and pick it up just wondering

[@kgmowers]

Send me a pm of what you want, your name phone number address and I’ll send you a quote delivering and you picking up :).

[@kgmowers]

9035174093 Facebook kgmowers or www.kgmowers.com

[@kevinhardin2941]

I've said it before and I will say it again, John deere is way over-priced plastic JUNK . I am the proud owner of a mahindra 1626 T.L.B. with mitsubishi driveline for a FRACTION of the cost of the booger green .

[@kgmowers]

@@kevinhardin2941 that green paint sucks a lot of people in

[@randyjessen7408]

What do the buttons do

[@acoaks84]

Sure is nice that they cheaped out and have these built over sea ....for that reason alone I'll never buy bad boy anything ever again

[@kgmowers]

All the mowers and implements are made in batesville, ar. Building tractors the South Koreans just did it better and waaay lower. They dominate the tractor business for sure. You know it’s funny I’ve been selling overseas utvs and it’s been so slow getting parts and customer service is lacking for us. So we went with landmaster which over 80% of every part comes from the USA. It’s truely built in America and almost fully sourced from here. People will drive them wanting American, and sometimes buy the Chinese made over them. With the overseas made utvs they offer a lot more for the money of course. There are pluses and minuses about each one. But honestly both puts money in Americans pockets and support america. What I like is after I started traveling an average person here makes 50k a year in the workforce like this. Over there money goes waay further. 50k can support over 20 families a year in most other countries, and only 1 here. Since meeting Christ it’s given me a different outlook on things like this. I bought a 4 seater amp ev Landmaster 4x4 for my family American made for $26k. I could have bought each member of my immediate family their own atv and utv if I would’ve bought fang power, vitacci, and odes products 🤔