Demoing a John Deere 450M round baler from Cazenovia Equipment. Running the baler with a John Deere 4250. #farming #balinghay #hay #roundbales #johndeere #countryliving #farmlife
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@carloscordova693411 ай бұрын
Mike much success and health to you and all your family a big hug from Burley Idaho🚜👍💪✌️😁
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you Carlos. Same to you
@mattwilks231111 ай бұрын
We ran new holland balers for years and the last 450 we had was total junk. Bought a Kuhn 2 years ago and couldnt be happier. I would reccomend doing a demo. They are great balers
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I have a Kuhn coming soon to demo. I'm really looking forward to it
@jackthewisedog517111 ай бұрын
Well done baling ! looks like a nice compact and simple to operate baler. nice !
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Its definitely a nice, simple baler
@Snowtruckdriver11 ай бұрын
Doing a nice job. Those bales look nice and even. good video.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you. Not bad for a rookie
@farmingforfunandprofit9403 ай бұрын
When we Creased row cropping Cotton and Peanuts and converted to Hay,,,,, Everything concerned was purchased New, We traded a striptill planter rig for a 450 silage special J D Baler exactly like the one purchased............. That was 6 years ago, the 2 original balers were sold, replaced with a 450 M and a 450R of which the 450R has been sold and the M is for sale........ Being replaced with 3- 190 XT krones........Simply because of the location of the Wide Green Band on the bales would cause confusion on the unroller table of the Rebaling opertion! We can use a more narrow width of Cover-Edge...which we buy from Deere.... by the 16-roll pallet....
@mikep78103 ай бұрын
I heard those Krones are nice balers
@farmingforfunandprofit9403 ай бұрын
We only baled about 96 bales with one at the end of last year.... On your 6101 PEQUEA Tedder, have you checked the operating linkage mounting and bushings that locks and unlocks the cart support wheels in the transport position ? Ours has eaten up the plastic bushings and the triangular swing and washer cut the rollpin, causing it to drop down, when it was folded or unfolded it bent the 1 1/4 pivot rod bolted to frame to bend rearward on both sides ??? I had to remove and use a shop press to straightnen,,,,,,, I replaced the bushings with 11/2 od,x11/4 id x11/4 long Bronze bushings ordered from Mcmaster- Carr..... Drilled and tapped for a 1/4x28 thread, extended zerk fitting, also ordered from Mcmaster Carr and loosened the mounting bolts to allow the sliding wheel lock some up and down movement,,, I have removed both axles to remove anti-wrap disc so a standard 6 hole 15 in implement rim and tire will work.....
@CazenoviaEquipmentCompany11 ай бұрын
What a perfect demo, Mike!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you. It turned out to be a beautiful day. Great day to do a demo for sure
@ianhaggart143811 ай бұрын
Good job.. for first time round baling.. 😊. The baler looks really smart.. just remember when your up in the hay loft to look out for people below before dropping one of those round bales down 😉🤣. Can't wait to see the other balers your thinking about.. but obviously the supplier/parts is a big factor for making your choice.. stay safe sir 🏴
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you Ian
@dembeckfarms11 ай бұрын
Not bad for a rookie (I think I already told you that). Did a fantastic job and looked sharp on the 4255. One thing I don’t miss about my Deere was backing up every bale. My NH has a kicker so I can just stop, tie the bale and drop it, then keep baling. Only time I back up is if I’m on a hill (I’ve lost two bales so far😂). I think a kicker is optional on Deere balers. Other thing I noticed was how many grease fittings are on the NH vs. my old Deere. There seems to be a lot more rollers on the NH. I should have patented the rubber belt idea, would’ve made hundreds of dollars.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
This one has a bale ramp but they unintentionally left it off when it was in the shop. My salesman wasn't too thrilled about that when he noticed it. I had a couple that I kicked out that my dad said made him nervous but luckily none got away
@dembeckfarms11 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 I dropped one this year after I purposely backed up to a spot I thought was level, looked back and said “Where’s the bale?”. There was a 4’ hole in the tree line where the bale rolled. It’s still there.
@Andaman197999911 ай бұрын
Massey is making some excellent hay equipment these days. If you haven't made your decision you should demo one of their balers
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I definitely haven't made a decision yet. I will look into that one while we demo others
@MorganOtt-ne1qj11 ай бұрын
Definitely try the NH! And if you feed in rings or put hay in a TMR, look at the processor knife option. Much less waste in rings.👍🚜
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I plan on trying one
@genechronister708511 ай бұрын
Another great vid!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you Gene
@anthonyhengst290811 ай бұрын
Someday I would be thrilled to demo a round baler. If we don't get some rain it won't even matter. The second crop as of now does not exist. I like the set up Sonne Farms has with the three bale collector. That is very handy for picking up bales later. Did we see an appearance of your 3010 raking?? Sure looked like it.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Good eye Anthony. We had the old 3010 out raking
@Rollinghillsfarmsmn11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Look forward to your next demo. I run an RB450 and love the front wrap because you can see it move. Yeah there’s a sensor but I had wrap fail on my old Vermeer and dumped a mess on the ground so I love to see it’s going on the bale. Consider pre-bale maintenance and ease of hooking to tractor as part of your demo next time. More to baling than going round a field😉
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. I'm excited to demo more balers to be able to compare them
@farmingforfunandprofit9403 ай бұрын
Our Baling routine basically follows the same thru all the operationns....... We open the field with 6 rounds around the Perimeter, to give us turning room....... then starting on one side, cut the remainder in "lands" about 60 ft wide useing GPS with Auto steer
@nitrodad1511 ай бұрын
What an upgrade for your farm. Hope it works out for you. You've been throwing small squares for many years.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you. Hopefully we can try some others and find one we like
@mikegoodman44711 ай бұрын
One thing we found to do on those balers is to turn the jack around. Seems a few operators have jack knifed the baler while backing up and the bottom edge of the jack can put some nasty cuts in your rear tire > view 15:17 . Never used a flap in front of the hitch pin. Never had any problem with it. I imagine in days gone by a long hitch pin would ball up hay but this one will never do that. I've seen ours kick out a bale every 30 seconds on big fast windrows. You would have to stand on the brakes, dump and haul butt.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@jonathanbreeding128011 ай бұрын
Them john deere balers can eat some hay. I had one of the silage specials and I loved it. Super tight bales and the net wrap was great. John Deere and New Holland are the two best in my opinion.
@dennisfrase517911 ай бұрын
I would consider a Vermeer, I have a 504 pro silage special ! I bale 9-10 miles/hour per bale!! I have a Deere 4050 MFD PS usually run10 th gear while baling!!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I'm hoping to check out the New Holland
@chrismorris30811 ай бұрын
Mike I love my older 466 I run it w/ my 2940 in either 5hi er 6low kinda surprised that 1 doesn't have the spring loaded bale bar to make the bale roll away from the bailer...my 466 has that...But still a very nice Bailer.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris. Its supposed to have a bale ramp but they unintentionally left if off when they were putting it together
@codyh389011 ай бұрын
Actually demoed a John Deere 450m last year and a New Holland rb450 and don't get me wrong I like the deer bailer but I would definitely demo a New Holland as well....me personally I ended up with the New Holland... I liked there header a lot better than the Deer but that was just my preference and I thought the New Holland was lot better of a bailer in wet hay than the Deer but again just my preference.... Is to its own deer bailers aren't bad but I would just be open to trying other brands 👍👍👍👍
@uhohspagettioh9753111 ай бұрын
I agree 100%
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks. I plan on Demoing a couple different balers to try
@antonyfarming11 ай бұрын
Brilliant job baling the two main things watch where you let bale out and make sure back shut before carrying on that's a freat idea net in back looks so easy mines at front on top its a right pain but will do about 280 bales hopefully you can try others All the best 👌👍👍
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you. It was nice to be able to round bale
@mglenngoodsonАй бұрын
No bale kicker!?!?!?!?
@mrt454711 ай бұрын
I like the net up front. Slightly harder to load but can watch it go on every bale. I know there are sensors but like seeing it wrap correctly with my own eyes
@williamspates101511 ай бұрын
The John Deere balers I ran we put a camera system mounted on back of baler so you could watch the net wrap to make sure it didn't mess up or you could catch it if it did and rewrap
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I plan on trying some balers with the net in the front
@paulreis164811 ай бұрын
Nice baler Mike would make a great addition if it fits all the criteria
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul
@jameswebb680411 ай бұрын
Look like you really got the hang of it good job
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I started going a little faster as I got the hang of it.
@jameswebb680411 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 that good hope you have a good crop year
@danielhurrle700811 ай бұрын
JD are really good in corn stocks. But make sure you try others for the experience. Great video Mike.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Daniel. We have some other demos lined up
@jonchaddock751611 ай бұрын
The baler needs a kicker bar on it. The farm I helped on had a NH 7060 , in heavy windrows would make a bale about every 2.5 to 3 minutes with a higher travel speed!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
They forgot to put the bale ramp on it when they had it in the shop. The salesman wasn't too happy to find that out
@williamspates101511 ай бұрын
I have ran both 458 and 459 basically same setup as that just little older I liked both pulled with 7810 or 6320 which was nice with left hand reverser. Also used a NH 654 net wrap had to be loaded from the front little harder to get your bale started I prefer the John Deere round balers just my opinion.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks William
@nashcobb305611 ай бұрын
thank you
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you
@bobbyrobinson443911 ай бұрын
My one bit of advice get a round baler with a drop floor worth every penny will save so much time if you ever plugged the thing.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@rickperry954611 ай бұрын
Great video… I like round bailing but the only thing I didn’t like about it was that you couldn’t….. can’t drive straight. I always had to dance from edge to edge within the windrow to make an even bale.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Rick. Once I started getting the hang of it, it wasn't too bad
@garybridger670711 ай бұрын
I upgraded to a Caseih RB 454, once I understood the monitor functions , my efficiency increased. Did this one have a auger in the pickup head? Baling on a side hill is always fun!!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I think it did. I'd have to go back up to the dealership and take a look at it to be sure. Yeah baling on a side hill for the first time round baling!
@garybridger670711 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 mine is supposed to be the same as a NH 7060, was a used one to Whites in Franklin.
@possleaholsteinspossbrofar842911 ай бұрын
Demo some others Mike. Don't get hung up on the first one you try. We went with Kubota in 2015 it made the hardest bale. Things have likely changed since then. Plus get one with knives
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
We plan doing other demos. I got another one coming soon and I hope to have another one lined up after that
@dmcc428611 ай бұрын
We have a 450M. I can’t believe the dealer ship didn’t spec that out with a bale ramp. Which I understand if ya do t want it. But u would be money ahead.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
They did, it was left off accidently when it was in the shop. My salesman wasn't too thrilled when it was hooking things up and noticed they didn't put it on.
@dmcc428611 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 That’s great. You will love it!!! That 450M is a beast. We loves ours!!!!
@rogerhenry287011 ай бұрын
Mike I know you are john deere people but may I suggest you try a massey Ferguson round baler I think you would like it and the price difference is crazy
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thank you Roger. I am a John Deere tractor guy but I plan on trying out a couple different ones
@mennoreuten156311 ай бұрын
Hey Mike how is it going, that baler would be fitting in youre operation fine i think, what would be the cost of such a machine since john deere is settled in the usa it should be less as we have to pay overhere in europe anyways still follow youre channel Mike, thanks and greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Menno
@generationll11 ай бұрын
Doesn t Deere make these round balers to unload the bales in the rows instead of having to back up?
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I believe thats an option not standard equipment
@davemork353811 ай бұрын
Try the new holland baler. Have had both deere and new holland. I prefer the new holland
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I plan on trying a new holland
@DPe-sz2nx11 ай бұрын
Try a Claus they are nice and reliable and if want do silage they have real good chopper and heavey built. Silage plays hard on baler if you have silos your better just get good used unit
@DiamondHeartRanch11 ай бұрын
What No bale kicker. That would help you so you don’t have to back up when your bale is full. That’s an option you definitely need
@bryankeator839611 ай бұрын
They work great on flat ground. Bale kickers suck it your on hills
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
This unit has a bale ramp but it didn't get put on when they put it together. It would come with one if we bought it
@mirrorimagecattleco11 ай бұрын
We traded for a 460m had a claas 380r roto-cut. The netwrap on the deere is so much better in my opinion. I joked its kinda borin now baling cause u just grease and oil the chains, put powder on the netwrap roll and drive just tgat simple.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
My buddy has a claas 360 and that thing makes a great bale
@clinthochrein88811 ай бұрын
Mike i Take it when you back up an off the side is it due to the slope of the field?
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Yeah. I wanted to make sure it didn't roll away or even roll into the next row
@clinthochrein88811 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 ,👍🏿👍🏿
@danaedwards546411 ай бұрын
i want to see you throwing those bales in the hay loft just kidding nice machine
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Yeah I definitely don't want to be throwing these bales around
@TheGrumpyFarmer11 ай бұрын
How’s it compare to the New Holland that you’ve had at the farm before
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I think you mean a Claas. My buddy Dusty that usually bales for us has a Claas 360. The Claas makes a nicer, tighter bale
@TheGrumpyFarmer11 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 oh, I thought it was a New Holland and that’s why I was curious because I’ve had guys say the Deere doesn’t pack the bales as tight. I demoed a New Holland back when I had the cows and it made a really nice tight bale I never did run a John Deere.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
@TheGrumpyFarmer We had a neighbor swing by and round bale a few bales for us to finish a field and he had a new holland. That made a nice tight bale too. The John Deere made a nice bale just not what the claas makes. I am excited to see how a kuhn does.
@janeriklund911611 ай бұрын
In sweden most common roundbaler iś a combi both roundbaler and wrapper in the same mashine is it common in usá hello from sweden
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I've seen a few of them over here but in my area is basically just the round balers
@Northeastohio11 ай бұрын
We need to do that mudflap on our round baler. I like square baling just because its easier for me to see whats going on
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
It was good to be able to do both. Square baling you don't have to worry about the bale rolling away from you
@johnredden64111 ай бұрын
John deer baler for a John deer tractor that makes a good combo
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
It definitely looked nice together
@mattphillips426011 ай бұрын
not sure how you are going to store these bales but when i was working on the farm i had the chance to work with both large squares and round bales and i much rather deal with large squares over rounds any day just saying you have to go with what you know and the pocket book will let you do in the end
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt. The rounds work better for our operation
@allen875611 ай бұрын
Had a JD for a while, good baler, net wrap on the back was the worst.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
What did you not like about it? It looks easier to load then the others
@allen875611 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 It would not stop wrapping some times and you couldn't see it. I would hope the newer computer tells you it is wrapping. Mine didn't. It made a really nice bale. It would be easier to load net, but you only need a roll every 250 bale's or so. Sorry I just don't think much of Caz equipment up here.
@mattcunniff530511 ай бұрын
Had a deere, now have a vermeer, twice as heavy, costs less and repairs are less
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to trying some other balers
@johnperry510211 ай бұрын
witch baler do you like best round or square bales
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I don't mind square baling, its stacking them in the hay mow that gets old fast. This was my first time ever round baling but I liked doing that too. I can definitely bale faster making round bales
@uhohspagettioh9753111 ай бұрын
Nh450 is quite a bit better in my opinion, better pickup, better netwrap, bale ejector ramp vs nothing you gotta backup, makes nicer looking bale.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I do plan on checking out the New Holland baler. This one had the bale ramp but it didn't get put on
@chadnowak936711 ай бұрын
Just wondering how many acres your family farm
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Around 350 but we are looking to pick up more
@saltcreekfarms446911 ай бұрын
make them throw in a bale ram you'll be glad you did!
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
This one has one but the guys forgot to put it on when they had it in the shop. My salesman wasn't too thrilled to see that
@richardleigh176211 ай бұрын
Nice baler , needs something to kick the bale out of the way when its been ejected .
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
This baler has a bale ramp that goes with it. It unintentionally got left off it when it was in the shop. My salesman wasn't too thrilled about that
@jeffeader996311 ай бұрын
If you bale on hills you’ll not want a bale kicker. Personally I like John Deere over other balers
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
Thanks Jeff. It was a nice baler. Definitely wanna check out some other brands
@johnearle666711 ай бұрын
Buy a mchale fixed chamber baler , no belts to give trouble and they are a great baler
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I plan on Demoing a couple others. I don't think I will demo a Mchale
@lymanharrold16611 ай бұрын
Wondering why you backed away from the windrow to drop each finished bale. Hay farmers down here just stop drop the bale and continue on.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
The bale ramp was unintentionally left off this baler when it was in the shop. I wanted to make sure I got it away from the baler. Not to mention I was on a hill so a lot of times I backed up to a place where the bales wouldn't roll away. If I just dropped them where the baler beeped at me a bunch would have rolled away
@dennisfrase517911 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@glenkellner993611 ай бұрын
Why do you have to back up so much? It doesn’t seem efficient?
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I never round baled before and I didn't want the bales to get away from me on the hill. I'm sure with more seat time I'll be more efficient
@glenkellner993611 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 Bare with me on this, would it be easier if you used the bigger square baler? Just curious cause we just had the smaller square baler. The bigger square balers wouldn’t roll away so it might be easier to use.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
@@glenkellner9936 The large squares are a lot more money than the round balers
@stevenblue312611 ай бұрын
Let us know which baler you decide to go with.
@mikep781011 ай бұрын
I definitely will
@mglenngoodsonАй бұрын
Ramp???
@mikep7810Ай бұрын
It was suppose to have one but it never got delivered with the baler.
@Hermsl8 ай бұрын
Price?
@mikep78107 ай бұрын
That baler was 50 grand
@rvrski17 ай бұрын
Buy a baler that has experienced technicians local to you, JD around me are incompetent at diagnosis and repair.
@mikep78107 ай бұрын
We are very fortunate that our JD dealership has a great service department.
@rvrski17 ай бұрын
@@mikep7810 Ours use to be be excellent as well when it was locally owned, it was sold to the corporate agency “Brandts” out of Canada, they cut costs for profit and lost all their experienced staff, the turn over of staff is incredible, you don’t know if you’ll get the person you ordered parts from 3 days earlier, the culture change was immediate and negative impacting support, warranty, service and replacement parts. The lack of leadership and management is just as much of a problem as the lack of technical training and experience. We’re selling all our JD harvest equipment after this season and replacing it with an agent that offers support and customer service.